1, Super Junior
In the case of SUJU, on the Taeyeon-Kangin radio program “Chin Chin”, -Taeyeon said a cuss word that eventually Kangin had to take responsibility!
Specifically she called him a “retard” in korean it’s a cuss word. In return Kangin had to defend for Taeyeon and tell listeners she accidentally mispronounced the word, and that she did not say that on purpose.

We all heard how Taeyeon received over 300 hate comments that day!

Later that day Soshified began attacking SuJu members KangIn, Eeteuk, Sungmin and DongHae.

2. SES
SNSD commented that it would be difficult to follow S.E.S. because its members are artificial.
And they added that SNSD is this generation’s beauties. (source)

3. SS501
-When Tiffany saw Park Jung Min, she said he looks like he’d have 10 bank accounts and that he looks funny from far away.
-During the program, Tiffany also exclaimed “omg HIM”?! when she saw Park Jung Min. She has no right to be an MC.
-SNSD fans made fun of SS501’s Kim Hyung Joon, saying “he looks disgusting.” They also made fun of Park Jung Min.

Nikki: U can watch the vid of Triple S being tormented by Soshified in one of the DC Vids.

4. DBSK
Same as what happened with SS501 and SUJU; some members of SNSD did not use formal speech when talking about DBSK and calling their names, like saying “Xiah Junsu” instead of “sonbae”.
- Jessica guest starred on Park Kyung Lim’s Outing. Park Kyung Lim asked Jessica who her favorite artist was and she said DBSK. Then Park Kyung LIm asked which member in DBSK she liked and she said “Jaejoong”, not using formal speech to say his name.
- Tiffany showed how witty she was by saying DBSK’s wave of red balloons looked like insects.
- SNSD fans were upset about the CF that SNSD did with DBSK so they accused DBSK of sexual harassment to give DBSK a bad image and creating a buzz in the internet.

5. Big Bang
SNSD made fun of Tae Yang’s real name “Dong Youngbae”, saying “What kind of name is that? It’s not even “Dong Young sang” (videos).”

6. Epik High- Tablo
Taeyeon was on Kangin’s Chin Chin radio when she saw Tablo at the computer. She said, “Doesn’t he look like a leet “오타쿠” ?
(For those who don’t know what leet means, you can look it up in “Urban Dictionary”. But leet is an internet word that has evolved into referring to gamers or computer hackers who are stuck in front of their computers. But in Korean, it also has negative references to the Japanese.)

7. Happy Shares Company (만원의행복) show program
SNSD members were rude to the program PD (producer & camera man), intentionally hiding Yoonah (the guest) and giving her food to eat, which is against the rules on the show. When they were finally caught by the PD, they shook their head and said, “We didn’t do anything” and then at the end, blatantly admitted that Yoonah ate something.
The PD said, “For someone who is young, you shouldn’t do this, Yoonah.”
Yoonah replied, “I’m 18,” while blinking her eyes innocently.
Yuri, who was standing in front, said, “We are old enough ~” while Taeyeon grabbed the back of her neck and pretended to fall to the ground, expressing that what the PD said was not “fair”.
vid here

8.Discriminating on show programs
On a weekend café program, SNSD called a trot singer “Sparkles” (referring to the bright sequined clothes they wear) and said, “Get money from Sparkles~”. The members delayed the serving the singer, saying amongst each other “I don’t like Sparkles”. They made their contempt for the singer evident while showing favoritism for some baseball players also at the café.


9. YoonA Disrespected Tei
YoonAh guest starred on Tei’s “Island” radio program. Tei greeted her with a full bow but Yoonha just gave a small bow as if greeting a B-list singer. Tei is not a B-list singer; he is one of the top ballad singers in Korea.

10. Wonder Girls
- Soshi fans went to Wonder Girls’ fan signing
One SNSD fan went to the Wonder Girls’ fan signing and asked Sunye to sign “Right now is Girls Generation”. This fan also dared to post a picture of Sunye singing this online.
- Remarks related to Wonder Girls
Whenever SNSD asks “Do you like Wonder Girls or SNSD?”
they grow cold and silent towards people who say “Wondergirls”.
- SNSD girls did mic tests while Wonder Girls was rehearsing

11. Tiffany disrespected Kim Ji Suk
Nikki: Ive already posted this in the news section.
--------------------------------------------
______________________________
Full Credit When Posted Elsewhere
Source: Reuters, BBC, Sports Chosun, Naver, LA Times, Youtube, Newsen, Washington Post, damienkatz.net
Credit for ShenYuePop.com: ShenYue! + soyboy
No Additional Credit Should Be Added

This post has been edited by .Nii.K.Ki.: Jun 11 2008 3 52 PM

Well, I never like SNSD to start with, I don't know if this is their true color or not because this is just news. If it is true, they should learn some respect to their sunbaes' and other singers even if they have cruel words to say, as a human and being manneredly, they should just keep it to themselves. If it isnt true, I hope no one starts bashing them because they are trying to survive in the industry and it is really hard to keep up another image and still look fresh.

WOW! thats a whole bunch of list that snsd did
when luck isnt on their side, reports of them keeps coming.

i wonder when will all these come to an end

really hope from now onwards, the girls would be more careful with whatever they say, or else another attack would come again

some things weren't their fault (fan's fault)
or they were jus joking around.
goshness, people take it too seriously.

-Jessica is close to dbsk as Junsu said himself.
maybe she isnt used to saying jaejoong sunbae.
(even tho she shuld think before she speaks...)
-kangin decided to take up for taeyeon on his own.
-happy shares company;; everyone does that!
they try to sneak food. come on now...
-i see a lot of people do small bows.
whats wrong? at least she bowed.
-"SNSD or Wondergirls?"
what were they supposed to do
if others say wondergirls.
i'd be kinda upset too...
--------------
other things i cant say too much on.
like them talkin about people's looks
and being 'artificial'. (so unacceptable)

jus give them a break now...
haven't they already had a hard time?
soshi antis leave them alone
&& get a life instead of watchin theirs.

This post has been edited by lidomzlulu: Jun 11 2008 4 55 PM

probably those are all true, just some might have been twisted to give SNSD a bad image. i dont really like them or dislike them. im still in the process of trying to figure out who they really are instead of listening to what all the netizens are saying. afterall, i think we need to make our OWN judgements about them. but one thing is for sure, those fans are CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYY im seriously. no offense to anyone but those crazy fans are adding more and more negative images to korean fans in general. i hear all those crazy stories and even my koean friends admit that the fans are crazy. ppl have no lives but to be obsessed blindly. it makes me sad how our generation is offered all these opportunities but getting more and more stupid by the minute. and as far as i know, i think those SNSD girls got famous a bit too fast, which makes them kinda cocky and too sure of themselves. thats what happens to idol groups. they need to be recognized slowly and thoroughly in order for them to be developed as persons and idols both. not get famous THAT fast because all the hype that those big companies like SM put into the advertisements.

basically, they lack the chance to have to work hard for their fame, that is why they are kinda spoiled. but i really hope they are reading these things and not dismissing them as mindless evil antis's bashing but rather as constructive criticism. afterall, IDOL groups LIVE because of FANs, so they should at least listen to us

I reckon they really need to be more mindful of what they say and do these days since everyone is watching them ><
But yeah, i think jessica calling the boys by their names are alright since she's probably a "older"/as old trainee as them /:
and as for the bow, no comments. dont know much about that since i'm not korean ><

ahnn
you've got a good point eevee, but Wonder Girls also got famous REALLY fast and you don't see then mocking at Rain, or being disrespectful...

I guess they've got to learn to watch what they say or do since everyone watches what celebrities do all the time. They just need to learn to be more careful and remember to show respect especially when you're a guest or people are listening/watching.

At first I thought it was just their fans that making all the commotions, but themselves are the ones to blame too. Who would of guess that they practically disrespect all the popular sonbaes

This post has been edited by luvHK4ever: Jun 11 2008 5 43 PM

i believe they never think carefully before uttering the wrong words out. I believe they are still young and they dont know that the words they said can actually cause trouble

woo this scary
i dont think much of snsd before
i know i dont like them then again i dont really like bubbly short skirted girls
prancing around in a b grade mv
anyone

but this
wow...

and bowing is important in korea
it show how much u respect the other person
gawd they even have that 90 deg bowing when they respected others
usually u do that to ur sunbae
seriously and tei is one of the best vocalist in korea
even if the artists is a b graded singer
as a hobae she should know to bow appropriately

and saying that to ses wow
they are saying ses as artificial?
at least bada can sing and look where is eugene now
who is the more artificial?

and making fun of people
they should stop that
there are a limit of fun joke and just plain rude
and they have crossed that line long time ago
seriously

Tiffany has no manners whatsoever to begin with. You should put the one she's mocking
Junjin's dance, and said Hyesung's voice sounds like a goat.

About Jessica calling Jaejoong by name. I don't see what's a big deal that is. They knew
each other since forever so I don't see why she should be so formal about it.

wtf...ses is artificial..?!!!...i think snsd is more artificial..as they are all plastic with the surgeries n etc...i never like them in the first anyway...i mean they should watch watch their manners n the way they talked....wonder girls get populars pretty fast but i dont see them go mocking their sunbaes like rain n etc....bout bowing thing i m not so sure coz i m not a korean.

THIS IS FROM SHENYUE POP, WHICH IS KNOWN TO BE AN ANTI SNSD SITE.

Some of these things are blown way out of proportion. I mean, everyone sneaks food on the show, why pinpoint Yoona? And also, just because her bow wasn't as 90 degrees as Tei's doesn't mean she's disrespectful. And Yoona always gives deep bows, so I don't know why she gave a small bow this time. Too bad there's no vid attached. And most of the serious things are done by fans anyways, so you can't really blame SNSD. With that being said, I guess SNSD needs to realize that they (or at least Tiffany) needs to learn to respect people and that their jokes aren't funny.

This post has been edited by shawty_says: Jun 11 2008 7 21 PM

ahhmmmnnnn....
>.<
no offence
but
i think SNSD and their fans Soshi deserve
what happen in the 2008 Dream Concert...
SNSD fans are so mean to ELF and Cassiopea...

those girls should grow up
and learn some manners...



This post has been edited by ♥ lavender rain: Jun 11 2008 8 29 PM

I could care less about SNSD. I don't like them or hate them but I find it very disrespectful when they don't respect their piers. As newbies in the music industries I don't see what gives them the right to make disrespectful comments about other artists.

I was mad when I heard about the comment one of the members made about JunJin and Hyesung .

Sorry but using age as an excuse for being rude and making disrespectful comments is not acceptable. They are in their late teens almost adults they should know what to say and what not to say.

I hope the girls learn from their mistakes make corrections. I don't want to see innocent fans getting hurt anymore. I don't want to hear anymore bad comments from them anymore.

people must understand that i lot of these things were organised by the scriptwriter the make the show funnier~ as many of u may know, even variety shows have a script and they have to follow them~ even if he said somethin "unappropiate", it would be edited out, the fact that it didnt shows that the PD wanted to show it, making the show funnier~

also yunho said in star show that suju, snsd and dbsk members trained at around the same time, and since they r such good friends, sometimes these things just slip out without adding the sunbae bit#

you took the words right out of my mouth...

age isn't an excuse there are plenty of other idols that are similar in age and manage not to insult someone..

I think b/c they come from SM they feel like they have a sense of entitlement, although I think some of those things posted are a bit extreme..I thought cheating on Happy Shares was normal and suppose to be light hearted..

This post has been edited by mayleeah: Jun 11 2008 8 15 PM

i never liked snsd from the start..so i can care less if they are having a bad image or not because in the end it's there fault. i mean even if some of those things are being twisted there still lies some truth behind rumors..so whatever the cause snsd will still be at fault.

now the thing that really gets me from that list is the disrespect & calling ses "artificial" i mean it's SES for goodness sake..even if they are fake "now" but they are like shinhwa legends in the game..for a newbie group to disrespect legends is stupid in a whole different level..especially when your not that great yourself.
i mean talk about "artificial" if anything i'll have to say that snsd is WAY more "artificial" then ses.

so let's see they disrespected shinhwa & ses both legends...who's next h.o.t?...

these girls need to learn a lesson on respecting those that have been in the business longer & paved the way for there generation.

snsd isn't even all that. they all can't really sing for crap, not all of them can dance & the innocent, cute, pure image is so fake...we all know they ain't all that innocent...they are part of sm, which means they have been around the block once or twice...

Mmmm, I don't know why but the more I read this kind of news about SNSD the hatred I feel for them become lesser. I am not their fan to begin with. Still, I don't think all these news about them is fair. It doesn't make me hate them but in a way it makes me feel sorry for them. For getting such a bad fans which is probably the antis who tried to make people hate them. Antis are quite creative, they can think such bizarre way to make people hate the artist
and i agree with lidomzlulu..
Some of the SNSD girls are very close to DBSK since they have become trainee together for quite a long time. So, there's nothing wrong with calling their name because they're friend.
And as for the show happy share company if you never watch the show other than the episode that SNSD was on, go watch it first before you start accusing them. Although I find them quite annoying in that show BUT almost all the artist did the same thing. It makes the show much more fun to watch.
SNSD and WG are friends too for crying out loud..
Although some part of this article is true BUT some part of it is just ridiculous.

Ok i think this is abit too much, most of the things on the list are very minor things which the article seems to reflect as being very negative. For example on Manwon Happiness, everyone who's been on that has done something similar to sneaking food etc.. and not even to mention the bow thing?!?!

I'm sure if someone wanted to they could write up an even longer list of other artists 'mistakes', why only attack SNSD?

SNSD fighting!

^ It's probably because SNSD has already been targeted with a lot of bad news.

Why isn't their management company doing anything? If they are getting hated by so many so early in their career, it seems that they are pretty much doomed for later success.

i always thought SNSD were innocent but reading this makes me think they are just rude and coincided especially Tiffany she is always making fun of someone to get attention

Korean netizens need to get a life instead of following every step of someone else's life like obsessive stalkers! Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and I'm pretty sure half of those "mistakes" are made up or totally exaggerated!

A lot of this stuff sounds ridiculous... I'm not doubting that it happened but I feel like many of these incidents were quite trivial to begin with. However, I have noticed that a few of the SNSD girls are a bit blunt in their speech, which given the conservative nature of the Korean industry, may make them seem rude towards other artists. It doesn't help that SNSD is marked to be a very innocent group, and to have seen the true nature of some of these girls is quite a shock to some people.

I don't like them from the start....
And now, I hate them.....
Even all of my classmates are part of their anti-fans club.

I don't know why what their fans did are in that list? I mean, it's mistakes made by SNSD, not mistakes made by SNSD AND their fans? It just makes the list much longer than it really is. Minus a few wths and unreliable sources, it's like two or three things only--just like any normal artist. Honestly, the only rude thing on that list, imo, is the Jisuk incident. By the way, Soshified is not an official fanclub for SNSD. I think Honey is, but I don't think they have an official fanclub. Anyway, most fanclubs are regretting what they did at DC so I think they'll be apologizing sometimes soon.

C'mon, get realistic here. How sure are you about the mistake SNSD made? It's not like you (the people crictizing SNSD) are a ghost following them around, knowing everything actions and words they said. Going through the list, most of them sound fake and bias. The list of mistakes listed sounds so unreasonable. THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY YOU KNOW. Girls don't have to be conservatives and quiet like back in the day. Going through the list, most of the suju, dbsk, and ss501 did the same mistakes before too. Talking about being rude imitating the senior's dance move, but imitating a dance move is the same as imitating someone's voice. If imitating someone's voice considered as a talent, why can't people consider imitating a dance move a talent too. People criticize the girls for talking informal to the suju and dbsk, but I think it more like teasing becuz they are around similar age (which is consider friends). Then, there is the bowing, when you bow, you don't see the other person so how can they know if the other bows lower than them. STUPID NETIZENS TRYING TO PICK A FIGHT!! Netizens better stop with this ridiculous show or else the company will step in and take action (which is not good). I think the reason netiziens going so CRAZY now is becuz they see the girls having lot of interaction with THIERS guys (wake up they are not yours!!)! I think it best if the girls don't appear on same show with the guys. Just like wonder girls, they don't appear on same show with the girls therefore watever they do, nobody knows and criticize. It is funny to fans from boys group bashing SNSD a lot, while fans from girls group do less. By doing all these crapping things, it does not make you the top fans of the group. Instead, you are embarrassing and disappointing the guys. You turn into a 3RD GRADE CLASS FANS, who do stupid things in the name of the guys.

The Yoona, Yuri and Taeyeon one made no sense.
Although half of these are not too bad, some of them are.
Sorry to rain on any fans but to me, most fo the mess ups come from Tiffany.
It seems like she just wants attention.


BTW to the people saying how it's perfectly fine to make these consistant mistake; it's not.
As IDOLS they are trained to portray themselves as respectful. It's part of their image. It's practically their JOB.

This post has been edited by pomi: Jun 11 2008 11 16 PM

I used to like them until i came to know abt them making fun of bigbang!!! am pissed >.<

Dang . . . SNSD already had enough anti-fans w/all of the rumors surrounding Jessica and the SM boys from before her debut. They're adding insult to injury now. Not a good idea.

"SNSD commented that it would be difficult to follow S.E.S. because its members are artificial. "

"Tiffany showed how witty she was by saying DBSK’s wave of red balloons looked like insects."

"SNSD girls did mic tests while Wonder Girls was rehearsing"

Wow these points especially irritated me. How could they say S.E.S is artificial, when some of them had plastic surgery themselves? Furthermore, they shouldn't be judging their seniors who were a legend along with H.O.T, Shinhwa, and FINKL (especially in an offensive way).

Cassiopeia's red balloons like insects? Are they jealous of the huge red sea they can create or something? Cassiopeia is such a well organized fan club when it comes to these things.

I have to say Wonder Girls are way better models for youngsters than them.

some of them were okay. Like the formal way of calling DBSK...I thought it was okay b/c Jessica were like their good friends during trainee days, so it may be accidental.

But the ones that offended me was the ones against Wondergirls and Tiffany disrespect for other group members. I knew she was being big headed for her popularity. No offense, but she bothers the crap out of me.

i never did like them, but now knowing that they made fun of taeyangs name, i like them even less. that is so rude

QUOTE (.Nii.K.Ki. @ Jun 11 2008 7 51 AM)

2. SES
SNSD commented that it would be difficult to follow S.E.S. because its members are artificial.
And they added that SNSD is this generation’s beauties. (source)

what the...i never dislike SNSD or anything but as an S.E.S. fan this really got on my nerves.
what give them the right to judge or even make a comment on their seniors?
How disrespectful for them to say bad things about their senior S.E.S.
I can't believe that S.E.S. actually gave them so many possitive comments before.
S.E.S. is too nice...

Ohhh, no they didn't.
Making fun of Taeyang's name.
I don't even know those girls...but nobody makes fun of Taeyang.
And what's wrong with Dong Youngbae?
Why would his parents ever name his Dong Youngsang (videos)...
Ugh, hate those girls.
They're rude and they show no respect to their elders.

This post has been edited by oh`retro: Jun 12 2008 2 27 AM

I thnk most of it should b blame on their guys fan, they r like OD aggressive. As for the whole thng with formal speech for SUJU n DBSK, they noe each other for like the longest time, so it juss became normal for them to use normal speech around each other.

And as for the Happy Shares thngy, EVERYONE HID EACH OTHER SO THAT THEY COULD EAT FOOD! if u havent watch it b4, dnt juss bash SNSD. Eunhyuk did that durin his Happy Shares.

SNSD should watch wat they say sometimes but most of all, they juss wanna have fun. so give them a break, PLZ!

dont u think this problem started just because lots of them have been giving those snsd kids lots of break
when taeyon make the mistake of the cuss word
kangin take the blame
they need to step up and admit their mistake and apologize
and also the more people are protecting them the more big headed they will be

fun is when everyone is laughing with no heart feeling
what they are doing now is just being annoying and rude

let it be~
Let it be~
let it be~

hahaha...

girls... girls...

they sometimes do mistakes...

but why are there too many mistakes...?

i'm so disappointed...

i'm a girl who likes their songs... but... whoa!

can't believe they have these issues going on in korea

alah! so what, if this article was from an anti-fan? still, you'd definitely do the same to any other groups that you anti! logical, right?

get over it everyone. just take this as one way of understanding the situation.

judge them with a lot of readings... ok?!!

peaceful n harmony!!!

WORLD PEACE!!!

um...they didn't do anything that bad really =/, I see their making fun as more of a playful teasing manner, I mean this is probably taken out of context. I was watching the clips, it's not like anyone was sour or anything.

The bad things are mainly the fans and if we were all to judge the singers by their fans, shouldn't Super Junior and DBSK be flamed to the extreme by now?