Do you like Liu Yi Fei, Young, beautiful but can she act? Options

[LycheeTea]

Yeah shes pretty... and cute but thank god thats not the appeal thats keeping her going. She is young and can improve, her looks will get her a long way. I think we will be seeing alot of her in the future.

[#Chili Stock Mar...]

LYF is pretty, but i rkn she really needs to polish up some of her acting skills. And also perhaps choose roles that are not too old for her age. eg She may look suitable to b Xiao Long Nv, but somehow u noe her face is too young to b in dat mature role. But she's got plenty of room of improve.

[ann_fang]

i maybe wrong but she got too difficult roles for her actking skills. She should have act easier roles before started acting xln etc. but i think it's not her fault.

she is not bad at all but one thing is shecan not sing. That's clear.

[Clemzstar]

have not hear her sing before so i wont say anything about that
but you gotta understand, shes only what ? 15 when she did TLBB, 17+ for Xian Jian and 18 for XLN ...

now we pick another actress ...
I can only think of Esther Liu of Sweety

Westside story 15 i think, Xian Jian 16 or 17 and GreenForest i dunno 18 ?

they are pretty close so anyway tell me ... which one is better ? star under 18 wise ?

[danceinsand]

omg i cant stand her!! im currently watching chinese paladin, and she pisses me off like mad! i cant get over how freking irriatating she is as ling er. like sw33tz said, she is emotionless!! act? no way! she isnt even that pretty! she just has this silly, im-so-innocent-and-calm-and-guai look. its so so sickening. she is one of the most untalented and annoying artistes i have ever seen.
(this is juts my personal opinion, dont start slamming me for it)

[ann_fang]

I know she was young when she acted in tlbb and the other series, so thats why said she should have acting easier roles before starting so difficult roles. I think she improves a lot but I just think that her fame came too fast. She got lots of fans and lots of haters. I don't hate her but I'm not able to like her at the moment. I also think she and all the other actors and actresses, they are all not treated fair by us. We just talking about them and they can not defend themselves. It's funny to gossip but it's also just gossip. U understand what I want to say. So every fan of Liu Yi Fei, don't be mad. You all like her and others not. I just wanted to know opinions so don't worry. I'm not going to offend her. BE COOL!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by ann_fang: Mar 10 2006 10 07 PM

[~Sw33tz~]

Clement1987 - i am sure some ppl prefer ester... i will in the acting department... u will have to admit ah nu was a hilarious characer, and she was good... silly and childish, and in green forest, she was more serious... u can tell rite?

now, crystal just gets those roles... but i don't think it is suitable, she can have other roles to broaden her range... it is always the fragile type... she is pretty, she has potential, just get the right character.

danceinsand - LOL well... there was a rumour she had a sex change.... lol probably fake... but yeah... during the filming of ROCH, she NGed sooo many times that i heard it pissed off the whole crew member and extras and on looekrs as well.... eek

oh welllzzz.... there will always be lovers and always be haters.... it is a critics section, so if ur a diehard lyf fan, don't come.... u will get offended.....

Clement1987 - i am sure some ppl prefer ester... i will in the acting department... u will have to admit ah nu was a hilarious characer, and she was good... silly and childish, and in green forest, she was more serious... u can tell rite?

now, crystal just gets those roles... but i don't think it is suitable, she can have other roles to broaden her range... it is always the fragile type... she is pretty, she has potential, just get the right character.

danceinsand - LOL well... there was a rumour she had a sex change.... lol probably fake... but yeah... during the filming of ROCH, she NGed sooo many times that i heard it pissed off the whole crew member and extras and on looekrs as well.... eek

oh welllzzz.... there will always be lovers and always be haters.... it is a critics section, so if ur a diehard lyf fan, don't come.... u will get offended.....

[kewljewel99]

i think that Liu Yi Fei such a b****. I wish that all she would do is crawl into a little hole and die and no one would miss her. I can't believe you guys waste your time and money making this stupid site about this stupid person. I think that neone who is a fan of hers should go to hell and die. Seriously, i think the whole world would be better off without her and her immature and b***** ways. I feel bad for ne guy who got stuck with her in their series. When that little f******* b**** died in Xian Jian Qi Xia Chuang i was jumping up and down and going yes!!!. and boy was I happy. I think that they should kill her off in all of her series or movies, or better yet, they should stop makiing movies and shows with her.

[PhuongNguyen]

i think that Liu Yi Fei such a b****. I wish that all she would do is crawl into a little hole and die and no one would miss her. I can't believe you guys waste your time and money making this stupid site about this stupid person. I think that neone who is a fan of hers should go to hell and die. Seriously, i think the whole world would be better off without her and her immature and b***** ways. I feel bad for ne guy who got stuck with her in their series. When that little f******* b**** died in Xian Jian Qi Xia Chuang i was jumping up and down and going yes!!!. and boy was I happy. I think that they should kill her off in all of her series or movies, or better yet, they should stop makiing movies and shows with her.

For a person you don't even know... how can you feel so much anger toward? I respect your opinion, but I think you need to learn to respect other also... Just because you "hate" her doesn't mean other people who like her should go to hell and die. It's quite odd to call her immature when obviously... when you don't seem to be very mature yourself

This post has been edited by PhuongNguyen: Mar 20 2006 11 17 PM

[cow_moo_mad]

acting [not great]
prettiness [not pretty], atleast for Xiao Long Nu Idy Chen Yuk Lien and Carmen Lee are much prettier and better fit for role than Liu YiFei
luck [definitely]

[kewljewel99]

okay, i take back the part about the fans, and im sorry don't take it to personally but i just really dont like her.

[Jieuw]

i don't really care if she can act. but she is damn hot. By looking at her the series earn some extra credits.

[.jaevia]

even though i onl seen her acted in chinese paladin, but i can say she is really very pretty and she can act well

[French_Fries]

IT looks like she improved.. but she is still quite overrated. I was watching some ROCH 2006, she did better than I thought.. but it doesn't look like she can act innocent.. cause her face already looks innocent/clueless. In other words, it didn't look like she was trying when she acted. Ppl still call me closed minded for not accepting her.. but if i really didn't accept her as being as XLN, i would have wrote hate mails or something.


So finally point, she is overrated.. and whether people think she fits XLN or not.. i still don't think she was the best XLN, didn't look like she was trying alot when acting more emotional.

This post has been edited by French_Fries: Mar 26 2006 12 24 AM

[ann_fang]

hi guys,

great to read such applies. Luckily there is anyone outthere have the same opinion like me.

[~Sw33tz~]

IT looks like she improved.. but she is still quite overrated. I was watching some ROCH 2006, she did better than I thought.. but it doesn't look like she can act innocent.. cause her face already looks innocent/clueless. In other words, it didn't look like she was trying when she acted. Ppl still call me closed minded for not accepting her.. but if i really didn't accept her as being as XLN, i would have wrote hate mails or something.
So finally point, she is overrated.. and whether people think she fits XLN or not.. i still don't think she was the best XLN, didn't look like she was trying alot when acting more emotional.

well lets just say that if u like her then u like her, if u don't, u don't. so if ur friends are calling u closed minded... they are just like the other fans who love the overrated lyf.

srsly... there are better xln out there.... she kicked off i think song fei fei... i dunno her name but i think that is, that girl is lovely and has the most mesmerising eyes...

lyf whilst filming was b*t*hed about quite bad... because she spend 1 whole hour to 'get the feeling of happiness and surprise'... killed the extras who had to bow and kneel down all the time.. and killed lotsa other ppl's day...

[funfun22]

i think that Liu Yi Fei such a b****. I wish that all she would do is crawl into a little hole and die and no one would miss her. I can't believe you guys waste your time and money making this stupid site about this stupid person. I think that neone who is a fan of hers should go to hell and die. Seriously, i think the whole world would be better off without her and her immature and b***** ways. I feel bad for ne guy who got stuck with her in their series. When that little f******* b**** died in Xian Jian Qi Xia Chuang i was jumping up and down and going yes!!!. and boy was I happy. I think that they should kill her off in all of her series or movies, or better yet, they should stop makiing movies and shows with her.

For a person you don't even know... how can you feel so much anger toward? I respect your opinion, but I think you need to learn to respect other also... Just because you "hate" her doesn't mean other people who like her should go to hell and die. It's quite odd to call her immature when obviously... when you don't seem to be very mature yourself

LOL..I totally agree with u there Phuong..my gosh I thought I had some boiled up hatred/dislike for RAINIE YANG, but geez someone is sure about to make me call shotgun here

I think she's done well for her role in return of the condor heroes 2005, as for her other series I haven't seen them

I think you are going too far with the cursing...esp telling a celeb to go "die"...that's taking it too far!! You act like she killed your whole family!!

This post has been edited by funfun22: Apr 14 2006 1 58 PM

[nite9]

i agree that she's reall pretty..but she cant act...i also think her face expression is always the same...but i think she'll improve in the future.....

[Clemzstar]

Phew
I thought this is going to be a Hate Thread
Anyway Ya LiuYiFei is a great actresss, i have and seen most of her series and in each series shes gradually improving.

Yes shes like a wooden log in TLBB, but she was still young.
Check her out in ROCH where she is better ... sooo much better

[bachylang]

I like LYF since I watched TLBB. If you'd go back to watch the version with Idy Chan ... Yes, I agree that Idy was beautiful. But about five minutes in, I just can't stand the character that she potrayed. A character with no real 3D characteristics. It was weak, simple-minded, and boring. Perhaps, it was the fault of the director or the script. But she didn't make it any better. In the end, when she had the change of heart, I didn't believe it for a minute -- I thought it was an utterly ridiculous situation but throughout the series she had never really acknowledged him. Now this is where LYF is different. Her character is supposed to be innocent, sheltered, and is basically a good person. The character that she potrayed never once tried to use her love/influence as a manipulating tool -- unlike Idy. If you'd look for closely, you'd see LYF dropping a brief look here and there that shows that she does have feelings toward the main character. They are not lustful looks, just shy ones -- as one would expect from a young sheltered woman that is developing some feelings toward another man than her love, ones that she does not dare to explore but cannot stop at the same because that are so natural. That why I like it so much that I have to point out -- because it is so natural, and it requires the actress to really understand the character and situation and able to channel it naturally. Maybe I'm over analyzing here -- maybe she just have good chemistry with Jimmy Lin.

Now about her being wooden in that role, I disagree. I thought Idy was overacting it and Carmen was too wooden, not LYF. Carmen is a beautiful actress. But ten minutes into watching her in the role I stopped watching the series. A good actor should be able to convey her emotions just from subtle facial expressions. One does not to be screaming or jumping around or distorted looking faces (like constipation in the case of Carman) -- those are amateur acting skills. The audience should know what the character is thinking just by looking into the actor's eyes or simple curl of the mouth. Maybe that's why some people thought LYF was wooden. I do not, I thought she has that subtle talent that could grow and make her into a great actress in the future.

I have not seen her in Chinese Palladin, just a clip in the very end. I was very touched by it. And now I don't want to watch the series to like the character knowing the end.

I'm currently watching ROCH 2006, and I must say I am impressed by LYF yet again. So far I have watched the 1983 and 1995 ROCH adaptions. ROCH 1983 was my very Chinese tv series or any tv series for that matter. The supporting cast in that series was excellent. But that aside, I did not like the series as a whole. Idy as XLN -- the image of the white fluffy fur on her head will forever imprint in my mind because at that time I thought she was one of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen -- ah, the childhood days. Anyway, I didn't think the character that she had potrayed was cool enough. She has that look that was like an evil eye -- like she was throwing daggers at you -- that I interpreted as that not a "cold" like that is comparable to Carman's. The way I interpret the character of XLN is that she should be aloof to the world outside of YG. Her looks can be interpreted as cold by other people because she simply does not care about them. So the "look" should not harbor any feelings behind it. Thus, Idy's look was not pure enough. And Carman's look works better here. LYF also has that look of pure indifference but unlike Carman's, her look also conveys a quality of gentleness and kindness. And I don't think that could hurt a character at all, especially since XLN is a main character, the audience has to like her first. Have you notice that the female characters that are attracted to YG have all the different facets of a whole? Take for example, the first girl (the cripple girl), she is fun for YG to be around with, she's his age and almost as mischevious. The second girl (her cousin) has a gentle and kind nature. And the third girl (the one in the Passionless Valley) is kind, sheltered, and innocent. All of those qualities XLN has but is magnified. So she has to be the most graceful, most innocent, and the most gentle. She also has to be kindhearted and generally a good person. And because she lived in the Gu Mu since young, she cannot be a mischevious and lively character as the first girl. And that balances out with YG because he is. Can you just imagine they both share that character? We'd all have a headache from watching the movie and the director be a sugar junkie to keep up. So far, I love the ROCH 1995 version because it has good pacing, focuses more on the main characters, and there is good chemistry between Carman Lee and Louis Koo. And I had my own doubts before I started watching ROCH 2006 because I love the 1995 version so much. But loving one series should not make you reject another good one. And if not needed, I would not compare between them, I would just judge them on their own merits. But since you all are discussing the topic here, I was just itching to join in being a critic myself. So far, I love the ROCH 2006 adaption. The costumes are like in a tradition serial in the 80's, the sceneries are magnificent, the special effects are not overly done, the fighting scenes are masterful, and the supporting cast are tolerable. And LYF, so far so good. I think she fits XLN the most so far in all of the tv serial adaptions if you'd compare the character to the character in the novel (at least that's how I interpret the character of XLN in the novel to be). YG in the other hand though -- the actor's acting skills needs a little improvement in lighter scenes. He does well when the character is sad, angry, or brooding, but not as well as Louis or Andy when the character is being mischevious or funny. Anyway, I think I'll save that for another forum discussion.

[shatteredsouls]

I like her. I mean, she is improving gradually and she do look cute. That's in my view though. Well, I do think her fame came too fast. She shouldn't take those lead roles, she should start with supporting roles to train herself. Then when she's ready and confident, she can take on the leads.

[**lover**789]

I can't stand this girl. First of all, she's not pretty at all. I can forgive that easily if she has the talent to make up for it. Problem is...she doesn't. She can't act either! I saw her in Story of a Noble Family, and I hated watching her on screen. It was not only bad acting, it was disgusting acting. It gave me goosebumps and I had to look away anytime she came on. Then I saw her in TLBB. The makeup definitely improved, but the acting didn't. She's fake, stiff, so uncomfortable to look at. Some people may not be drop dead gorgeous but they're comfortable to look at. I can't look at her.

[_DuCkiEz_]

she's cute/adorable but not beautiful or drop dead gorgeous. she has this innocense and warmth about her that i think attracts people. in terms of acting, to put it bluntly, she sucks. i saw her in the remake of the demigods or something like that (in the tvb version, benny/carman/felix is in it) and she sucks. she was so stiff in some scenes and emotionless in others. in a lot of the scenes, all she could do was stand there and look pretty. hopefully she'll improve as time passes b/c i really think she has potential.

[Kenway]

She defintely pretty ...... 1st time i saw her it is like WOW ........ and she definitly fit the bill for XLN in ROCH ....... do u guyz read Jing Yong comment on her ...??? Jing Yong says she is prefect(i think is perfect? anyway as long as it is good) choice for the role of XLN ... and Jing Yong is the guy who are most suitable to decide whether the actress suit the role ... since he said ... i say no doubt

but i do agree that her acting skill is not really up tp par yet .. still need improvemnt but ladis and gentlemn she is not even 20 yet ........

[susan_snowrain]

I like her too after watching chinese paladin.
I think she really acted well in this serie.... and of course she looks really pretty....

[gems05]

Beauty: She's better than average. I would not consider her better looking than Vicki Zhao, Zhang Ziyi or Ady An but she's not bad either. She's more suited to ancient dress than modern dress and the face of her shape is very similar to that of ancient chinese paintings.

Acting: Average. She needs to take on more diverse roles.

Overall: Not bad but definitely overrated. I think most people who dislike her would not dislike her as much if she weren't so overrated.

[French_Fries]

I like LYF since I watched TLBB. If you'd go back to watch the version with Idy Chan ... Yes, I agree that Idy was beautiful. But about five minutes in, I just can't stand the character that she potrayed. A character with no real 3D characteristics. It was weak, simple-minded, and boring. Perhaps, it was the fault of the director or the script. But she didn't make it any better. In the end, when she had the change of heart, I didn't believe it for a minute -- I thought it was an utterly ridiculous situation but throughout the series she had never really acknowledged him. Now this is where LYF is different. Her character is supposed to be innocent, sheltered, and is basically a good person. The character that she potrayed never once tried to use her love/influence as a manipulating tool -- unlike Idy. If you'd look for closely, you'd see LYF dropping a brief look here and there that shows that she does have feelings toward the main character. They are not lustful looks, just shy ones -- as one would expect from a young sheltered woman that is developing some feelings toward another man than her love, ones that she does not dare to explore but cannot stop at the same because that are so natural. That why I like it so much that I have to point out -- because it is so natural, and it requires the actress to really understand the character and situation and able to channel it naturally. Maybe I'm over analyzing here -- maybe she just have good chemistry with Jimmy Lin.


I'm currently , I think I'll save that for another forum discussion.

I have to disagree with Idy overracted. I thought IDy acted the best, maybe she didn't have the looks as LYF.

LYF, sometimes she had the clueless look, sure sure we hear that its the character's... but that same look was the same clueless (don't know how to act) look from Chinese Paladin

[Michelle.]

When I first looked at her, I didn't reli find her pretty. But then I saw more picz of her and I found that she has this reli ancient and elegant look. She looks reli unique and different. I wouldn't say she's cute, she's beautiful. =) Not sure about her acting skills cuz I haven't seen her act before. She's only like 19 yrs old and already so pretty!

[missk]

i think she's pretty and elegant... but as to can she act... i don't know... i'd say her skills aren't the best... but it's not horrible yet... so she's an alright actress.

[crazylife123]

I have to disagree with Idy overracted. I thought IDy acted the best, maybe she didn't have the looks as LYF.

LYF, sometimes she had the clueless look, sure sure we hear that its the character's... but that same look was the same clueless (don't know how to act) look from Chinese Paladin

just like Li Nhi said, "Idy has already imprinted in your head." even if there was a XLN who is 1000x better than Idy, you'll see her as the best.

like i said B, if you do a scene by scene comparison with Idy and LYF as XLN, you'll see that LYF excell every aspect in those scenes.

[French_Fries]

that would be like those mising scenes that IDy could not have shown. I also said, IDY did teh best( in my personal opinions for me. IF you prefer LYF then, fine. but for me it is Idy) I was defending the part where IDy was overracting, which i don't think.

Why can' u says that u like LYF and just be biased?I am watching it again and I think Idy does better at being confused with her sleepy eyes. LYF acted confused half the time, like what Linda had said, "lack experience from acting"

This post has been edited by French_Fries: Jul 1 2006 4 05 AM

[crazylife123]

Just this one scene alone, you could see the difference. The couple in '06 is far superior in acting in just this one scene. This one scene shows how they felt for one another even after all the mishaps. You could see how they love each other. I want other people to judge it too.


ROCH '83
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czj_5jHjGC0&search=roch

ROCH '06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djz8DAAaUIk&search=roch

[French_Fries]

far superior with just ONE scene? Of putting voices aside, since it wasn't LYF;s voice. I saw the pained expression ( under the dark and heavy makeup) in Idy's facewhe she hugged YG. HXM acted better than Ady at this point, i agree. I thought LYF was overdoing it with coughing, using her hand covering her mouth. But the rest of the scene, decent job

[crazylife123]

far superior with just ONE scene? Of putting voices aside, since it wasn't LYF;s voice. I saw the pained expression ( under the dark and heavy makeup) in Idy's facewhe she hugged YG. HXM acted better than Ady at this point, i agree. I thought LYF was overdoing it with coughing, using her hand covering her mouth. But the rest of the scene, decent job

there's a lot more scenes that lyf did a better job. it's just that people refuse to see it. and if they did agree..some will say this, "it's because of the music/beautiful background/good editing"...that's just an excuse...if it is better...just F@#$KING say it. why put up a front ...especially online...now that's annoy the hell out of me.

Idy gave a better impression for the mature part.
Carmen did the best for cold aura feeling.

I can say it but i highly doubt the others could give a positive remarks about lyf. freaking gay with their online pride.

nah B, i dont want to get crazy over you. I got tired of people in SPCNET. I'm not going to bother replying. they say lyf's fans are crazy but when i talk about their actress...they get all crazy/insane and get all personal. they're worst than lyf's fans. i dont give a damn anymore. all of them are a bunch of hypocrites.

i dont really care if you criticize lyf as an actress. you may think i'm biased but i'm not. just like one of the guy in spcnet said, "people say lyf did a good job because her role as xln was easy to portray but then go around telling everyone around saying that idy is a GREAT actress because she portray her role well as xln." it just doesnt make any sense.

for me, if an actor/actress did a bad or good job on their acting. i will say it.



This post has been edited by crazylife123: Jul 1 2006 6 09 PM

[sarat]

Both scenes look really pretentious; the dialogue is absolutely atrocious. I don't think you can exactly compare since they had a lot more special effects for the 06 version, which makes it more visually appealing.

As for acting, I still say that Idy is a bit better, but Huang Xiao Ming is better. Liu Yi Fei mostly just choked and coughed, which worked to her advantage since she can mix that with her acting.

[crazylife123]

Well, here's another scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOOaENhnCAE&search=roch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDE_tmLgNPI&search=roch

Here's another scene. This one I know for sure Idy cant compare to LYF. Idy looked like she was trying so hard while it looked easy for LYF. Both HXM/LYF showed a lot more of emotions/expression in this scene.


ROCH '83
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVN5FYii8Hc&search=roch

ROCH '06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO2xYGEuu7A&search=roch

Here's another one. I dont see how Idy is better than LYF.

ROCH '83
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_sPvTGdFy0&search=roch

ROCH '06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUmHb4qFlws&search=roch

In this scene, everyone did a good job. Andy cant even come to close HXM's acting abilities. However, it's not fair to say that it's better because the scene was produce/direct differently. 2006 was more dramatic than '83. But technically, '06 was better.

ROCH '83
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boE_DyzgiFs&search=roch


ROCH '06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_cK7yTEo4o&search=roch

[French_Fries]

man, HXM was overragated in that one compared to YG. It looked like he popped blood vessels.


Plus, the entrance scene with XLN, you dare say that the effects did not benefit LYF at all? U say that u don't want to compare and you don't care.. but how come you have to slam down everyone who didn't think LYF was perfect? Even at the raping scene.. the camera,. effetcs, music was making the scene more dramatic/. FOr IDy, all u see was him covering her eyes and that's it.

I said it before, LYF , looks like a XLN, innocents( she got), but mature look and blank staring doesn't make her a perfect portrayal.

[crazylife123]

man, HXM was overragated in that one compared to YG. It looked like he popped blood vessels.
Plus, the entrance scene with XLN, you dare say that the effects did not benefit LYF at all? U say that u don't want to compare and you don't care.. but how come you have to slam down everyone who didn't think LYF was perfect? Even at the raping scene.. the camera,. effetcs, music was making the scene more dramatic/. FOr IDy, all u see was him covering her eyes and that's it.

I said it before, LYF , looks like a XLN, innocents( she got), but mature look and blank staring doesn't make her a perfect portrayal.

aye aye...never said she was a perfect one. just said she did a good job. just dont like how every say idy is perfect when she couldnt do some of the scenes like lyf can...just trying to be fair here.

[French_Fries]

first of, i never said IDY was perfect. I said no one was ever a perfect XLN. however, acting wise i still think Idy had the upper hand. And i said ACTING only. The total feel of XLN, both had their strong points and bad points.

[French_Fries]

btw, someone forgot that 3rd editoins changes do make XLN a bit different. THe third one made her and YG have a deepr bond. So i don't see how using LYF's expression with YG in the cave is plausible. This is privilege that IDy did not have

This post has been edited by French_Fries: Jul 1 2006 11 46 PM