Are The SM Entertainment Rumours True? Options

[SongOfDarkness]

I feel really depressed after reading this. I don't know if this is true and I won't choose to believe it or not believe it cos I honestly have no idea, but I kinda agree with sapphireX, what can fans really do to help them? Not buying their stuff so SM don't get it won't work since then they'll think popularity is dropping and they'll get ignored and not promoted, if we do buy stuff and support them, then SM will get it...hmm...hard to decide..
Also, if these rumours are tru, hypothetically, if they file a lawsuit, wouldn't they not have a high chance of winning since SM is so rich and powerful...and if they themselves leave, no way will their own money be able to match up to that...
My heart breaks for DBSK if this were true.

[freakkk]

over 99% of SM Entertainment celebrities have had plastic surgery...or were forced...unless the celebs give up their dream. key word: FORCED.

[*sotong*]

The one thing that came to my mind when I was reading this topic was:
Why was it a coincidence that so many people are working under SM and releasing news? - Like the one about the bodyguard.

But, if SM is to really torture their own artiste (which I myself thinks they may.) , sooner or later, there would be limited people for them to recruit.

Why those people went under SM are either because they want instant fame or such of.
For SJ popularity now, I can see a little of unfair treatment here and there.

The truth is bound to come out any one day.
No human can live forever..

No wonder they say entertainment circle is dark.. .

[berrrn]

good GRIEF. i read this last night & then this morning allkpop had an article about the legal battle between SM & DBSK. srsly freaked me out.

I wonder if using the word "beat" is too exaggerated? I know a few people who grew up in korea &they say that like, sometimes their teachers would hit them with a ruler or something, or that their parents would hit/yell at them, and that constitutes a beating, but i think for a lot of people, 'beating' is just too strong a word to use. it makes it sound a lot worse tha it (might) be.

i read this entiiiire thread &i know someone was wondering, i think contracts vary. like on the article i talked about? they said DBSK's contract is like. 11 years or something. omg. but this 3 cents thing is nonsense. again, referring to the article, DBSK has a 20-80 agreement with SM (20% to DBSK divided among the five equally, and 80% to SM). So each member gets 4%. If a DBSK CD is say 20000 won (about 16.36 USD), each member would get 800 won (about 65 cents). 3 cents? no. thats just way too exaggerated.

[pat08]

well...joining a company means signing a contract so those artists put themselves into that...
and almost all korean stars nowadays get plastic surgery so why should it matter???...

[soso&so]

I am going to say this because I am American and I live in America. So if I sound like an asshole or may offend some people, this is one major reason why and sorry.

Looking at allot of theses comments I can see how much of an Asian culture influence on punishment and abusive behavior towards others is in grained in allot of Asians. Assuming most people here are Asian on this forum. For SM to even have rumors of “beating” their employee is a red flag. Normal rumors at work are who is dating who, who is going to get fired, layoffs, bonus, nepotism, not why does that person have scratches or is wearing a cast. And for people to think that it is okay for companies even if it is an entertainment company to make their employees kneel for 2 hours is defiantly wrong. My dad who is ex-military made me kneel for 2 hours when I was a kid. But to make someone kneel for 2 hours in the work place because they got something wrong or made a mistake is unjustifiable. It seems like that is what you do to prisoners not your employees. We have something called harassment and worker fairness laws to stop or prohibit abuse. I can’t believe some of the comments here think it is okay for physical harsh punishment which is ridiculous these people are grown ups not children. People at work should be treated with respect even if they are working to become famous.

And some comments of I don’t believe it because I don’t hear it or see it. And I know we all want proof of abuse, but. Think of an abused house wife. Her husband isn’t going to hit your face but he will hit your arms and body so that you can cover up when you go out. And people would say something if they were being beat. How many strong people do you know who is going to openly say of was beaten or abused by the all powerful company I work for? Who would loose face?

American entertainment companies have never had has much rumors of beating or abusing employees like SM. The rumors for Americans entertainment companies are she or he had sex to get that role, she has nude pictures, her or his father is a producer, that person is a porn star, she was discovered at a mall, you have to loose 20lbs, and other weird crap like that. Shame on SM for getting the majority of all profits of the workers.

I think this is why Boa wanted to be in Japan for so long and go to the US to get away from this.

[♥hippo-holic♥]

i dont really care about whether their artists had surgery or not the point is they treat their artists/talents like slaves.

i really lost my little respect left for SM Entertainment!

[CielBom♥]

For Sm artistes that have had a re-debut (eg./SooYoung/Sunday).Is it safe to assume that their contracts are not valid during their transitional training periods?....

This post has been edited by Quicker: Aug 7 2009 1 24 PM

[nanshi]

I think this is why Boa wanted to be in Japan for so long and go to the US to get away from this.

I highly doubt that BoA going to Japan "for so long" and debuting in the US had little to do with SM. In Japan, BoA is under the AVEX recording label, sure, but in America -- she's still using SM's name as her record label. I'm pretty sure that BoA has as little say in her activities as do any of the other artists under SM Entertainment. BoA has just been doing it for so long that you'd think she would.. but I definitely doubt it. I distinctly remember an interview published where BoA specifically said she did not wish to debut in America -- fast forward about two years, and here is is, trying to make it big. Personally, I think she looks very unhappy underneath all her cheerful words and attitude.

For Sm artistes that have had a re-debut (eg./SooYoung/Sunday).Is it safe to assume that their contracts are not valid during their transitional training periods?....

Contracts are contracts, regardless of debut. Most of SM's trainees sign contracts once they are signed into the company -- it is not based on debut. that's why Sooyoung and Sunday debuted again too. Because they had to (contract stipulations or whatnot).

[~♥~Lulu~♥~]

the dbsk's case prove it ...... poor to any1 who under SM entertainment TT----------TT*
lee so man is sh*t .....
even snsd,suju and shinee are saying it

[%Splendid!shot.-]

Should be , i hope DBSK will not disband !!!

[~♥~Lulu~♥~]

Cruel and Shocking Facts About SM Entertainment Share

1. Violence
Once, the youngest member in a group went on stage with a mask. People revealed that he was seriously beaten up by the recording company the day before and his face was really in a bad condition. But still, he had to go on stage and tell the fans that he fell down in the bathroom. Another member from the same group had an injection before going on stage of their major concert. That was because the company hit him till he broke his bones, but it was impossible to cancel the concert, so he had to have that injection. And the concert wasn't like others, which is one show per day, but it was twice a day ~That was Shinhwa's Andy & Junjin


2. Money factor
There was a group in Korea who was famous in all of Asia. When they went to China, the fans there them loads of gifts. In the end, fans basically started giving food instead, because for them, food is the most important thing. While they were resting backstage, people saw them and the whole place was pretty messy with food packages all over. They don't usually get to eat nice food because of the irresponsible company. Most of the artists come as a group and after splitting the money, they're left with very little. And the money had to be used for investments in other performances. They take in thousands of young talents and train them for years. While training, the kids have to pay for their living and they won't get a single cent. The thing is, the chances of being an artists is lower than the chances of getting into Harvard University. As they grow a bit older, they'll probably be some background dancers with very little pay. ~ The group is H.O.T.



3. Andy
One of the most famous issues about him is the 'mask' issue. He was beaten by Lee Soo Man and had to wear a mask while performing. The company announce that he fell down in the bathroom and had 8 stitches. Secondly, Andy was forced to leave Shinhwa and return to America, but with the fans insisting and Shinhwa members' unity, he finally got to return to the group. Third incident, Andy took in 6 over headache pills and tried to take his own life. It happened on 22nd March, because he got rejected from a university and he wasn't allow to go out of Korea due to national service incident. Thankfully his family heard his cry and rushed him to the hospital. But when he reached the hospital, he insisted not to get treatment even after his mother & grandmother begging him. The doctor in the end had to do it with force.



4. JTL
After JTL left SM, even after they released 2 albums, they didn't get to perform properly. All their tight schedules were cancelled by SM, and their MVs weren't shown on TV at all. Jang Woohyuk from JTL once written in his diary that they were supposed to be very busy because it was the promotional season, but they were very free and doing nothing the whole day.



4. TVXQ/DBSK
Actually the incident where Changmin got beaten is true. Lee Sooman wanted a female artist to be famous, so he wanted her to have rumors with Changmin in order to get popular. Changmin rejected it sternly, and LSM got really mad, so he asked other people to beat him up. He even stood there saying,"As long as you don't beat him till death." Changmin returned to the hostel and the 4 of them were there. Jaejoong nearly cried seeing Changmin's bad condition. There was another time where Lee Sooman forced Changmin to work 3 days 3 nights without rest. He got a fever as high as 38 degree celcius the next day and he didn't tell anyone about it. Lee Sooman insisted him to perform, and on the 3rd day, he fainted. The 4 of them cried. Another time where Yunho & Jaejoong got beaten by LSM and it was really terrible, Changmin kneeled down crying and begging LSM to stop beating the guys. Yoochun cried on stage once and nearly got beaten up by LSM but he got saved by Kim Dongwan as he asked the 4 of them to stay close to Yoochun to protect him. Jaejoong got beaten once till his mouth was bleeding but he had to say that he fell down accidentally. Changmin once said that the reason why he was beaten by LSM and why he was always kneeling is to beg for the rest. LSM wanted to kick 1 of the members out but Changmin insisted that if he really have to kick one of them out, he would leave as well. In Changmin's drama, Snow Flower, he was supposed to film a "bed scene" with the female lead, Go Ara. As Changmin wasn't experienced enough, (even he had not kissed before) he insisted not to film that particular scene. Lee Soo Man was very angry and he immidiately slapped Changmin really really hard when they are on the set in front of everyone because he wanted Changmin to film it but still, Changmin continued to reject that scene so, the directors had no choice but to remove that scene.


5. Shinhw
It was said that in order for Shinhwa to leave SM but still keeping the name, Eric's family paid a huge sum of money for that. Shinhwa need to pay SM for being able to keep their name and continue singing their old songs and even now, SM sometimes lets this current singers, like Super Junior sing Shinhwa’s old songs.


Random Facts

**When Boa was still in training, SM's owner, Lee Soo Man, made H.O.T and Shinhwa members teach her how to dance, sing. (this was about summer of 2000) HOT and Shinhwa members were so busy with their own schedules, yet they still had to teach her. When Boa got impatient or was frustrated.....the members would too......but Lee Soo Man always favored Boa, and the extreme was that Lee Soo Man would hit (physically) the H.O.T and Shinhwa members

**Lee Soo Man favored the most popular out of the group. For ex. H.O.T Lee Soo Man asked Kangta and HeeJun secretly to re-sign with SM, before even their "H.O.T" contract ended. And kangta and heejun did, while leaving out the other 3 members.

**Lee Soo Man also under paid H.O.T. When H.O.T broke up (in May of 2001) there were news of how much they were paid in 4 years and 8 months (since HOT debuted in Sept. 1996) and it was damn surprising. I remember Woo Hyuk made about 54,000US per year which really is not alot, if you are a singer. Kangta and HeeJun made a lil bit more than that. And Jaewon made the least.

** DBSK rotation thing, so that was stupid move again made by Lee Soo Man.

**SM did not want to hire composers and writers, since they wanna save money, so made H.O.T members wrote their own music by the 3rd album. So in every way SM was trying to make the most money outta these groups, while spending the least on them.

**The stars don't get paid as much as many think they do. Like when you see a headline for example "BoA makes 80 Billion" or whatever, it's not entirely true. She doesn't even get 5% of the profit. None of it: the CF, concert, etc. It goes to SM and they use it to pay off other stuff.

** The rumors about singers in SM getting beat is true. Shinhwa and H.O.T are definitely two groups that were mistreated. DBSK were probably mistreated prior to their debut, when they were in training. They do this to ensure that these singers will become a big sucess by training them to make no mistakes. I think that's just sad.

**Lee soo man hits singers with BASEBALL BATS AND GOLF CLUBS!!!!
LSM made DBSG go on water diet, You know it mean that you lose weight by not eating ANYTHING and only drink water to keep you alive and walking,

**SM was training Shinhwa when they decided to just release HOT (an alternate band)and let them be a flop. I hear that Shinhwa's CD was postponed as HOT surprisingly enjoyed their success. When the success of their CDs died (although not by much), SM decided to sign the most popular members to make some profit but gave up on the whole "great success" thing. Then they released Shinhwa.


** SM singers only get 1% per cd, while all other gasoos get 17% - source – TIME MAGAZINE

credit to:Worldwide EverLasting Friends (E.L.F.) Community (facebook)


Cruel and Shocking Facts About SM Entertainment Share

1. Violence
Once, the youngest member in a group went on stage with a mask. People revealed that he was seriously beaten up by the recording company the day before and his face was really in a bad condition. But still, he had to go on stage and tell the fans that he fell down in the bathroom. Another member from the same group had an injection before going on stage of their major concert. That was because the company hit him till he broke his bones, but it was impossible to cancel the concert, so he had to have that injection. And the concert wasn't like others, which is one show per day, but it was twice a day ~That was Shinhwa's Andy & Junjin


2. Money factor
There was a group in Korea who was famous in all of Asia. When they went to China, the fans there them loads of gifts. In the end, fans basically started giving food instead, because for them, food is the most important thing. While they were resting backstage, people saw them and the whole place was pretty messy with food packages all over. They don't usually get to eat nice food because of the irresponsible company. Most of the artists come as a group and after splitting the money, they're left with very little. And the money had to be used for investments in other performances. They take in thousands of young talents and train them for years. While training, the kids have to pay for their living and they won't get a single cent. The thing is, the chances of being an artists is lower than the chances of getting into Harvard University. As they grow a bit older, they'll probably be some background dancers with very little pay. ~ The group is H.O.T.



3. Andy
One of the most famous issues about him is the 'mask' issue. He was beaten by Lee Soo Man and had to wear a mask while performing. The company announce that he fell down in the bathroom and had 8 stitches. Secondly, Andy was forced to leave Shinhwa and return to America, but with the fans insisting and Shinhwa members' unity, he finally got to return to the group. Third incident, Andy took in 6 over headache pills and tried to take his own life. It happened on 22nd March, because he got rejected from a university and he wasn't allow to go out of Korea due to national service incident. Thankfully his family heard his cry and rushed him to the hospital. But when he reached the hospital, he insisted not to get treatment even after his mother & grandmother begging him. The doctor in the end had to do it with force.



4. JTL
After JTL left SM, even after they released 2 albums, they didn't get to perform properly. All their tight schedules were cancelled by SM, and their MVs weren't shown on TV at all. Jang Woohyuk from JTL once written in his diary that they were supposed to be very busy because it was the promotional season, but they were very free and doing nothing the whole day.



4. TVXQ/DBSK
Actually the incident where Changmin got beaten is true. Lee Sooman wanted a female artist to be famous, so he wanted her to have rumors with Changmin in order to get popular. Changmin rejected it sternly, and LSM got really mad, so he asked other people to beat him up. He even stood there saying,"As long as you don't beat him till death." Changmin returned to the hostel and the 4 of them were there. Jaejoong nearly cried seeing Changmin's bad condition. There was another time where Lee Sooman forced Changmin to work 3 days 3 nights without rest. He got a fever as high as 38 degree celcius the next day and he didn't tell anyone about it. Lee Sooman insisted him to perform, and on the 3rd day, he fainted. The 4 of them cried. Another time where Yunho & Jaejoong got beaten by LSM and it was really terrible, Changmin kneeled down crying and begging LSM to stop beating the guys. Yoochun cried on stage once and nearly got beaten up by LSM but he got saved by Kim Dongwan as he asked the 4 of them to stay close to Yoochun to protect him. Jaejoong got beaten once till his mouth was bleeding but he had to say that he fell down accidentally. Changmin once said that the reason why he was beaten by LSM and why he was always kneeling is to beg for the rest. LSM wanted to kick 1 of the members out but Changmin insisted that if he really have to kick one of them out, he would leave as well. In Changmin's drama, Snow Flower, he was supposed to film a "bed scene" with the female lead, Go Ara. As Changmin wasn't experienced enough, (even he had not kissed before) he insisted not to film that particular scene. Lee Soo Man was very angry and he immidiately slapped Changmin really really hard when they are on the set in front of everyone because he wanted Changmin to film it but still, Changmin continued to reject that scene so, the directors had no choice but to remove that scene.


5. Shinhw
It was said that in order for Shinhwa to leave SM but still keeping the name, Eric's family paid a huge sum of money for that. Shinhwa need to pay SM for being able to keep their name and continue singing their old songs and even now, SM sometimes lets this current singers, like Super Junior sing Shinhwa’s old songs.


Random Facts

**When Boa was still in training, SM's owner, Lee Soo Man, made H.O.T and Shinhwa members teach her how to dance, sing. (this was about summer of 2000) HOT and Shinhwa members were so busy with their own schedules, yet they still had to teach her. When Boa got impatient or was frustrated.....the members would too......but Lee Soo Man always favored Boa, and the extreme was that Lee Soo Man would hit (physically) the H.O.T and Shinhwa members

**Lee Soo Man favored the most popular out of the group. For ex. H.O.T Lee Soo Man asked Kangta and HeeJun secretly to re-sign with SM, before even their "H.O.T" contract ended. And kangta and heejun did, while leaving out the other 3 members.

**Lee Soo Man also under paid H.O.T. When H.O.T broke up (in May of 2001) there were news of how much they were paid in 4 years and 8 months (since HOT debuted in Sept. 1996) and it was damn surprising. I remember Woo Hyuk made about 54,000US per year which really is not alot, if you are a singer. Kangta and HeeJun made a lil bit more than that. And Jaewon made the least.

** DBSK rotation thing, so that was stupid move again made by Lee Soo Man.

**SM did not want to hire composers and writers, since they wanna save money, so made H.O.T members wrote their own music by the 3rd album. So in every way SM was trying to make the most money outta these groups, while spending the least on them.

**The stars don't get paid as much as many think they do. Like when you see a headline for example "BoA makes 80 Billion" or whatever, it's not entirely true. She doesn't even get 5% of the profit. None of it: the CF, concert, etc. It goes to SM and they use it to pay off other stuff.

** The rumors about singers in SM getting beat is true. Shinhwa and H.O.T are definitely two groups that were mistreated. DBSK were probably mistreated prior to their debut, when they were in training. They do this to ensure that these singers will become a big sucess by training them to make no mistakes. I think that's just sad.

**Lee soo man hits singers with BASEBALL BATS AND GOLF CLUBS!!!!
LSM made DBSG go on water diet, You know it mean that you lose weight by not eating ANYTHING and only drink water to keep you alive and walking,

**SM was training Shinhwa when they decided to just release HOT (an alternate band)and let them be a flop. I hear that Shinhwa's CD was postponed as HOT surprisingly enjoyed their success. When the success of their CDs died (although not by much), SM decided to sign the most popular members to make some profit but gave up on the whole "great success" thing. Then they released Shinhwa.


** SM singers only get 1% per cd, while all other gasoos get 17% - source – TIME MAGAZINE

credit to:Worldwide EverLasting Friends (E.L.F.) Community (facebook)

[xiong baby]

OMG that is scary. i felt sorry for korean stars.

[little_shooting_...]

Hidden Text:

Hi~ I'm a current member of clubH.O.T,
and am a fan of the now broken up group, H.O.T. ^^

These days the group DBSK have been performing a lot
and have caught my attention.
Not only that, I heard that one of the DBSK members was a
very big male fan of H.O.T., and thats how I first started to
learn more about DBSK

As I watch the way they act and their performance,
I couldn't help but to think that they are very simliar
to H.O.T when they first started

H.O.T is seriously the god's to our generation,
so for people that were born around 82, 83, etc.
No one probably understand what they meant to us...

After Seotaiji and boys broke up, H.O.T. saved the
kpop music scene that was completely dying out.

All the teenagers were pulled into H.O.T.,
and within a year of their debut they received the top music award.
Out of all the major awards that H.O.T received, there must be awards
from at least 10 different music/television companies

When I see DBSK right now, the past H.O.T. fills my mind.
I was a freshman in high school when H.O.T. first debuted.
Now I am 22, and even today, when I go to performances or
concerts, I am looked as a young girl ^^

I heard that the majority of DBSK fans are junior high students,
and although many people say that they are young fans,
we were exactly like that too.

Whenever people saw us they called us H.O.T fanatics.
But then what about now? Even after 8-9 years
we are still here watching over them.

We hope that all the DBSK fans follow in our footsteps ^^

Liking H.O.T. for about 9 years,
I would like to give a little heads up and warnings about the company SM

I am someone that had a voice within the H.O.T fan club.

So I know a little more about the company SM, than most fans or normal people

At this moment, many H.O.T. fans have ventured out ^^
There are some that have become stars, others that became famous peoples' coordis,
and even some that have been hired into SM

Through these people we have learned that,
what we believed to be unfair treatment by SM, in reality, was very much true

SM claimed that the 2nd H.O.T. was blackbeat, but after their failure
they tried once again, and that group is DBSK

Silently leading the group with wit and talent, YoungWoong JaeJoong.
He is like MoonHeeJun.

Leader in dance, with the aura of a tough guy, but sometimes very cute, UKnowYunHo.
He is like JangWooHyuk.

Lived in the states, and able to speak English, very charismatic and outgoing, MickyYooChun.
He is like Tony.

With looks that can be looked as almost femine, and the image where you want to take care of him, ChoiKangChangMin.
He is like Kangta.

Looks that can be looked as average, but the type of person that the more you see the more you like, XiahJunSu.
He is like LeeJaeWon.

Two group that really have a lot in common, DBSK and H.O.T.
Maybe that's why, but we H.O.T. fans are genuinely scared that
the DBSK fans will have to face the hurt and dissapointing ordeals we had to go through.
Especially because all of you are so young.

Cassiopia fans...

SM is honestly a dangerous place.
As you like DBSK more I am sure that your hatred for SM will only grow

The first time H.O.T. began to get battered by LeeSooMan was during the beginning of their 3rd album
I'm not sure if you heard their 2nd album song, "Heng Bok"
That is the song H.O.T. received the DaeSang award,
and the album after that for every little mistake, they were hurt.

At that time, I believed that no matter what, it was merely just rumors
Slowly, everything I believed were rumors, were slowly turning into realities

By any chance do you know of Andy of ShinHwa's incident?
For awhile he was on stage wearing a mask wasnt he?
SM said some unbelievable stuff saying that he ran into something
or that JunJin fell while taking a shower.

Everyone continously told us different thigns.
The important factor is that they ran into something or fell,
but why was only his mouth hurt? How come there were no signs of anything near their forehead or nose or any other facial part?

A few days before, Andy went into the SM building, and when he came out
he was wearing a mask, which many fans noticed.
Honestly, at that time I didn't believe it.

After JTL left SM, even after they released their album,
they weren't able to properly perform for a good 2 years.

Their schedules continously got mysteriously cancelled,
and on cable t.v. their music video was not even showed ONCE.

That wast the famous SM-JTL boycott.
Boycott...

SM went to every television company and threatened that
in the case they brought JTL onto their broadcasting list, SM would pull out all their singers from that company

Many fans called JTL's company "YeJun Media" and asked what was happening,
but even from there they did not know.

This is a famous event,
It was when MoonHeeJun's 2nd album was supposed to come out

Fans were sleeping in front of HeeJun's house,
when HeeJun's mother came out and began to cry like no tomorrow.

She was begging to the fans to save HeeJun...
"Please save my HeeJun..."

HeeJun's first album sold 600,000 copies.
But SM said, "Merely 600,000?!"

They said they didn't want to invest in his 2nd album.
So for HeeJun's 2nd album, his music video, and jacket pictures...
he poured out his own money and savings.

Everyone.
Buy their album. That is helping DBSk.

Whenever H.O.T albums came out, we fans bought AT LEAST 2 copies.
That's the only reason whenever a new album came out they were able to surpass 1 million album sales.

And for that fact only...
thats the only reason the members were able to collect a little bit of money.

H.O.T. boys...
for every album they received approximiately 2 cents.

After Boa released her first alubm,
she received 50 cents per album.

For five people if it's 2 cent, that means its not even a quarter cent per person.

Then you might ask...

"What about the commercials and photo albums, and all the other side things H.O.T did?"

To keep it simple,
the only money H.O.T members make is through album sales.

Any commercials, and any shows, anything,
all that money goes to SM.
So its basically an unjust contract, a slave contract.

We heard that the contract between DBSK and SM is immense,
but thats not always a good thing.

When one leaves SM you must pay a fee that is much higher htan the contract,
and basically its to stop singers from leaving
Not only that they will take out a percentage of one's profits if one leaves.

Do you think the term "slave contract" came out of nowhere??
DBSK right now...they are probably having a really hard time.

Do you all know this?
The president of SM isn't LeeSooMan but, KimKyungWook.

To put it in lamen terms...

Although on paper KimKyungWook is the president,
the person that makes all the decisions is LeeSooMan.

The reason,

SM has done a lot of illegal things.
And if those acts are caught, someone needs to be blamed.

So LeeSooMan screws up,
and KimKyungWook takes the blame.

If you look at it KimKyungWoo is a slave too. An SM slave.

H.O.T.'s old manager is currently working for a very famous company.

That person once said that H.O.T. are kids he truely feels sorry for,
and so they were kids that he wanted to save.

That person tried to take H.O.T. out of SM, but got caught by LeeSooMan
and was immediately fired. Right now he is working at SIDUS and is producing the group G.O.D.

That is the reason LeeSooMan hates G.O.D. so much.
So much to the point that any radio show SM singers host,
he makes it clear he doesnt want to hear them putting on G.O.D. songs.

Even though slave contract, unjust contracts are against the law,
LeeSooMan is living quite fine.

He is truely a rich man. Someone with so much money it is unbelievable.
Although he waste a lot of money, he always has more.

We raised SM
and then we were stepped on by SM and died.

All the money that came in from H.O.T was invested into BoA
and all the money they invested in BoA is being currently reearned.

But now H.O.T memebers have encountered so many scars,
and they are slowly being forgotten by people.

Along with Club H.O.T who set records as a fan club.

We all are being forogtten by people.

All of you will get older with DBSK.
We were the same.

We used to say that "we're aging together,"
and these days those words sound so sad

As time goes feelings will be stronger,
and we sincerely hope that DBSK doesn't endure the same scars from SM, as H.O.T. had.
Don't take the same hurt as we did.

Within DBSK, create an awesome fan culture.

With every childless statement, the fan image is slowly ruined.

Become fans that think about what you say,
when announcing you are their fans.

Don't ever be faltered by any rumors, and always trust the member.
Singers will never betray their fans.

Please don't do things that they dont like.
You shouldn't ever make your favorite singer feel disappointedi n you.

If you are going to believe this and that, or just move on to someone else,
then don't like them from the start.
It will only be scars upon that singer/group.

As you grow older, even if you find a boyfriend
don't ever forget that you are DBSK fans.

At first it may just be a fantasy for you
but as time passes and as you grow older
you will realize that they mean a lot more to you than you know

In your heart, you will never forget your younger days
when you were their fans...

please make sure it is only memories that you will not regret... "

^i remember it wasnt too long ago when i read this, probably when i first started my fangirling on kpop i came across this. I didnt post here, i kept my comments to myself because i had mixed feelings about this and couldnt determine exactly who and what i believed in. I took in considerations from all comments, rumours or anything that would give me a clue to whos right. In the end i decided along with many others here that most of these rumours posted up here were false to a degree. Because none of us thought it would be possible for a company to be that inhumane and cunning, for a contract to be that unlawfull, for a company as big as SM to do yet so much and still get away. Really, and generally for most of us was just because we were all naive enough not to see the warnings, the predictions by older fans, to think things like this arent possible. and today im laughing to myself when i go through these comments all over and reread them. To reread comments about all this isnt possible; that its mere rumours, that in fact LSM are indeed close to dbsk, that people from other companys made up these rumours to degrade SM because they were jelous of SM's success..... So tell me why all this now is revealed to be POSSIBLE. that it is possible for our artists to earn close to nothing in comparison to the company, that such contracts could be in existence even with the presence of the law, the police, the government, that in the end dbsk and cassiopeia would endure the same scars as H.O.T and again it is likely this processs would repeat itself and we wont be able to do anything but probably post the very most a warning to the next batch of fresh SM fans. I find it hard to believe that this process has been repeating itself for so long, and comments like mine have been repeated so much; that this shouldnt even be in the rumour thread anymore. Its proven that most of whats being said is true, and thats probably the worst part.

[Mao Thao]

UM....if the rumors are true, why would someone as talented as YOO YOUNG JIN stay with a shitty company like SM when he can work for someone who'll respect you and take care of you like YG? Hmm...it's just so weird and we don't know we can only assume.

[Hazy Corruption]

Yoo Young Jin is a composer, chances are, his contract will be different from the artists because he is well established as a composer.