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post Dec 9 2005 6 11 AM
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QUOTE (~Sw33tz~ @ Dec 9 2005 5 20 AM)
exactly!!! and Outsiders II was good... (so far) but i hear that xiao zhu dies... which is sad... because he is cute!! but yu hao dying was just soooo sad!!!  weeping.gif
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yeah,xiao zhu died and lei lei went crazy after xiao zhu died. xiao zhu is actually lei lei brother smile.gif
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the endin was sad...how come they have to make him die... but neway...
a sad endin dosen't mean it is bad... at least there is somethin different rather than always... happy endin buahaha.gif
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QUOTE (strawberrieSweeT @ Dec 9 2005 1 21 PM)
the endin was sad...how come they have to make him die... but neway...
a sad endin dosen't mean it is bad... at least there is somethin different rather than always... happy endin  buahaha.gif
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i think the director might be hoping that the ending of the outsiders will be remember by audience. anyway, sometimes a sad ending is always better than a happy ending wink.gif
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QUOTE (fuLL mOOn @ Dec 9 2005 10 24 PM)
i think the director might be hoping that the ending of the outsiders will be remember by audience. anyway, sometimes a sad ending is always better than a happy ending wink.gif
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yeah, every1 remmbers it because we all cried so much it wasn't funni (i had puffy red eyes that needed an ice pack for 30 mins so i could go 2 skool!!) it was jsut soooo sad!! *sniff...* i think i will remember that series... forever.... it shall be a classic... one that will make ppl cry like helll... all da time.. yes the director is good, smart, make it sad, make it known.. like all the korean dramas at first.... hehe.

outsiders came out aggess ago and so did outsiders II... not long after each other... hehe, i am just behind.....
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when did the outsider II come out
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yeah, every1 remmbers it because we all cried so much it wasn't funni (i had puffy red eyes that needed an ice pack for 30 mins so i could go 2 skool!!) it was jsut soooo sad!! *sniff...* i think i will remember that series... forever.... it shall be a classic... one that will make ppl cry like helll... all da time.. yes the director is good, smart, make it sad, make it known.. like all the korean dramas at first.... hehe.

outsiders came out aggess ago and so did outsiders II... not long after each other... hehe, i am just behind.....
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me too, i was feeling so happy when the outsiders 2 end since i the last scence was them in the water happily but i suddenly remember that this series is about 4 years ago and the truth is yu hao had died already. eww, that was so sad weeping.gif
baby_ray: the outsiders came out a long time already, in 2004 smile.gif
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post Dec 22 2005 7 46 AM
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I've seen this movie a while ago, i watched the middle to the end, cause it seemed like a gangster movie. It's been about a year and i still remember it >.<
i wanna buy it soo bad, but i can't find the one with the english subtitles, cause i'm vietnemaese and i don't understand chinese, etc. weeping.gif
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hehe i know how dat feels hehe im viet too ladychelly but wen does outsider 2 comes out i already watch part 1 and it was awesome but wat abt 2 ive been waiting till it comes out since last couple of months but i kinda give up on being excited of "maybe it come out this week" crap because i alwaz have my hopes up and then it get stomp weeping.gif but im still watching though hehehe. happy.gif'

hey sry ladychelly i didnt know how to send u personal message so im just gonna write in here n hope u find it. The viet title is "Ke Ngoai Cuoc" its basically the outsider in viet im sry i cant really write it in viet because im not really good at it heheh sry innocent.gif
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post Dec 22 2005 9 48 PM
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i dont like the ending at all
i thought it was going to be one of those
happy ending movie but nope it not
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post Dec 23 2005 12 52 AM
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I don't like to watch the sad movie or series. But I watch this series all the way to the end, cause the main roles are my favorite star.
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post Dec 23 2005 1 18 AM
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me too i didn't like how the serie ends. i thought that it was going to be
a happy ending when i first saw the show, but i was wrong. SZ wasn't that0
bad in the story. i didn't like the outsider II at all, even tho i wanted to know
what happened between the four years in the first serie but after watching #II i regret it...

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post Feb 11 2006 5 15 PM
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By the way, can someone answer some questions for me on part one of Dou Yu?
1. At the end when Xiao Die visited Yu Hao's grave, what did she say to him?
2. What does Xiao Yan Zi's tatoo of the beta fish on her back supposed to mean/symbolize?
3. In Dou Yu part II, did Xiao Yan Zi get pregnant with the rapist's child or Yu Hao's child? Please answer honestly because I'm very confused about whose kid she was pregnant with.
4. Also, was it Xiao Yan Zi's parents that didn't want her anymore or was it her who decided to leave them?

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post Feb 23 2006 5 39 AM
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If you scroll up, I posted earlier that the first 5 Eps are subbed in English. Be patient, only one person is subbing this series atm.
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post Feb 26 2006 10 47 PM
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this series was good. I hate the ending, it took them all this time to be with each other and the guy end up dying leaving her behind. I didnt' know there's an Outsiders II is it good?!
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post Mar 26 2006 2 16 PM
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hey guys do u think u can post a close up picture off ady's tattoo? id really appreciate it if thats possible ....thanx guys
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post Apr 8 2006 2 44 PM
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i was watching outsiders again cos i bought the DVD and i realised there was alot of piano playing, does anyone know where i can get the paino notes or does anyone have it? can you post it please?

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Do you think you can upload the Dou Yu I OST for me too? I really want the instrumental songs from the series too, but I couldn't find any download links anywhere.

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By the way, can someone answer some questions for me on part one of Dou Yu?
1. At the end when Xiao Die visited Yu Hao's grave, what did she say to him?
2. What does Xiao Yan Zi's tatoo of the beta fish on her back supposed to mean/symbolize?
3. In Dou Yu part II, did Xiao Yan Zi get pregnant with the rapist's child or Yu Hao's child? Please answer honestly because I'm very confused about whose kid she was pregnant with.
4. Also, was it Xiao Yan Zi's parents that didn't want her anymore or was it her who decided to leave them?


1. i dont remeber
2. The fish is a symbol of the necklace Ah Hao had given to her. A tattoo lives forever, and that day she had got it done, she had a choice whether or not to stay with Ah Hao, she chose to stay. Therefore the tattoo of the fish is like saying she'll be with him forever.
3. havent watched 2 yet
4. Xiao Yan Zi's parents wanted her to come back with them. But XYZ's heart was still with Ah Hao, so since they both wanted different ways XYZ's parents gave up. It wasn't that they didnt want her, more like they wanted her to be different...
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By the way, can someone answer some questions for me on part one of Dou Yu?
1. At the end when Xiao Die visited Yu Hao's grave, what did she say to him?

I think she saids something like, Yu Hao I got revenege for you. That question you asked me years ago, I still don't know how to answer it today. Something like that. Memory sucks cluebat.gif
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post Apr 8 2006 10 00 PM
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Thanks Sweetcandeeh and xCHELLy. I was wondering if I was ever going to get any answers for two months now.

To Sweetcandeeh: You can get the "bu gong ping" piano score from 'the outsiders' here http://amusic.uni.cc/scores_female2.php
Also, if anyone has seen Chinese Paladin, there are also some scores from that series there too.
For Chinese paladin piano scores: http://amusic.uni.cc/scores_female.php
There's the piano sheets for A Sang - 一直很安静 yi zhi hen an jing
JS - 杀破狼 sha po lang
JS - 花与剑 hua yu jian
I don't know if there's anymore since I only found those. Hope I helped some of you.
Oh and I'm pretty sure you can find Lydia's piano sheets too. Here it is http://amusic.uni.cc/scores_group.php

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QUOTE (xCHELLy @ Apr 9 2006 3 00 AM) *
I think she saids something like, Yu Hao I got revenege for you. That question you asked me years ago, I still don't know how to answer it today. Something like that. Memory sucks cluebat.gif


i think i remember... she says " five years ago i promised you i'd leave the country and i think it's time for me to go..." i duno...

by the way thankx complete_love HEAPS AND HEAPS for the notes biggrin.gif
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post Apr 10 2006 12 38 AM
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i think i remember... she says " five years ago i promised you i'd leave the country and i think it's time for me to go..." i duno...

by the way thankx complete_love HEAPS AND HEAPS for the notes biggrin.gif

Really? Since I saw the Vietdubbed version and I was going back in my memories what she said in viet kept flowing in my mind. I know for sure she said stuff about revenge and the question that he asked her 5 years ago, the question was like "Why did you help him?" Him was that bad buy.

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Thanks Sweetcandeeh and xCHELLy. I was wondering if I was ever going to get any answers for two months now.

Sorry, at first I didn't know who she was. I had to go back and see who she was. xD
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hey guys do u think u can post a close up picture off ady's tattoo? id really appreciate it if thats possible ....thanx guys


eh.. probably too late but w/e
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lol she didn't turn 'bad' for popularity, she clearly had her reasons (and i don't for a minute concede she was 'bad' anyway!!!). i thought the psychology behind her transformation was blatantly obvious tongue.gif

was she bad for being raped? was it bad of her to reinvent herself in order to protect those around her + her own sanity??


She didn't exactly 'turn bad' u know! She only made herself into a stronger person so that she could mostly Protect Yu Hao. Cos if his enemies wanted to hurt him, they'd try to hurt her. And that happened when she was raped. But mostly the transformation is so that she wouldn't be a burden on Yu Hao & cos she loved him & wanted to protect him the best way she knew how. wavecry.gif
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It wasn't bad.. but she had to turn stronger due to the life she chose... When she was weak, what did she get? Yu Hao was over protective of her.. she was raped.. and her meekness had caused, indirectly, Blue's character to be in jail. She had to toughen up to protect her self and ppl around her.
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By the way, can someone answer some questions for me on part one of Dou Yu?
1. At the end when Xiao Die visited Yu Hao's grave, what did she say to him?
2. What does Xiao Yan Zi's tatoo of the beta fish on her back supposed to mean/symbolize?
3. In Dou Yu part II, did Xiao Yan Zi get pregnant with the rapist's child or Yu Hao's child? Please answer honestly because I'm very confused about whose kid she was pregnant with.
4. Also, was it Xiao Yan Zi's parents that didn't want her anymore or was it her who decided to leave them?


1. She said, "I'm sorry Yu Hao gege(brother), I've revenge for you. I want to hear you said that you forgive me but it couldn't be, I can never hear those words anymore. I'm going back to my home land."

2. The tattoo indicates her sacrifices of staying with Yu Hao and not going back, she chose to stay with him.

3. I was a bit confused too, she is supposed to be pregnant with the rapist but seem like Yu Hao didn't care as long as she was with him. She miscarriage the baby anyway, it was so emotional, I'll upload that scene for you guys to watch.

4. It was Xiao Yan Zhi that didn't want her parent, on that scene when Xiao Yan Zhi's parent wanted to take her back, she denied to go back with them.



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I haven't seen this series yet, but I really want to! I've heard that it's very good, and the summary you posted was really interesting, Jessie86.


You should watch, it was not one of those typical series, it was dramatic and great.

I used to think that this series is one of those typical series where a poor bad guy fall in love with a good rich girl and he had to suffer for his love but it was not that way, it was much better, it is not typical at all

P.S - I love Sun zi character more but love Xiao yan Zhi with Yu Hao.
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Does anyone know if anyone bought the photobook of "the Outsider"?
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post Apr 20 2006 1 05 AM
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jsushi... you have fast connection dont you? smile.gif unfortunately for me.. i dont sad-smiley-065.gif rent this series instead =/

dabduff.... scans of it is probably out there.. just have to search... wait.. i was thinking of cp... dont know about outsiders... DO they have the book thingy? =/
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post Apr 20 2006 2 38 AM
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I haven't really watch part 2 but part 1 is very good.
Love all of their chemistry!

Yea, same here. I do want to watch Part 2 though. Ady & Dylan's chemistry is the best! <3*

I first watched the Vietdubbed version, then after 2 years. I wanted to watch again so i rented it again. Then I told myself I had to get my hands on this series XD So I downloaded from D-addicts even if I dont understand =]
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jsushi... you have fast connection dont you? unfortunately for me.. i dont rent this series instead =/

dabduff.... scans of it is probably out there.. just have to search... wait.. i was thinking of cp... dont know about outsiders... DO they have the book thingy? =/


There is a Photo Album for this series, It is at yesasia.com, just search The Outsider and you'll see the photobook, I'm planning to buy it but I can't now cause I just bought the Outsider 1 & 2 for 109.80$ so have to save that for later, I'm still waiting for my order to arrive. Everyone, are you happy for me for getting Dou Yu 1 & 2....I am so happy I can't wait till they deliver it to me.
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i was getting bored so i watched the series AGAIN cos i had nothign to do...
what is that sign just before XYZ leaves... its early in the series..
where shes abnout to go overseas... there this white symbol on the wall what is it?
my sister and i came to the conclusion it was a swallow.. bird but what is it??
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[b][font=Courier New][size=7] Please i've tired really hard to look for this series.. i really want to buy it in viet dub.. if anyone knows where i can get a copy then please email me or tell me thanks. please help me out! wavecry.gif
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QUOTE (sweetcandeeh @ Apr 21 2006 8 51 AM) *
i was getting bored so i watched the series AGAIN cos i had nothign to do...
what is that sign just before XYZ leaves... its early in the series..
where shes abnout to go overseas... there this white symbol on the wall what is it?
my sister and i came to the conclusion it was a swallow.. bird but what is it??

i just recently watch it again too.. do day just like 30 minutes ago hahaha makes me feel so good to see them together.. ahem.. anyways.. to get to your question... your sister's conclusion is *cough* wrong.. because it is a fighting fish.. see how the head is small and all that fin looking things.. yep.. because dylan is the fighting fishie biggrin.gif and ady is the swallow.. i saw the part where he said she was a swallow flying high, queen of the world kinda thing and he was just a low life fish swimming in a small pond... aww... so much symbolism smile.gif so yea.. definitely a fighting fish.. doesnt look like the fighting fish he has in his house? the one he keeps in that little small tank.. i think he's like the fish.. always able to survive in the worse conditions... the fighting fish can live in any type or water and the just keep living.. i have like 9 fighting fish in my tank and i watch them eat eachothers fin things.. yep.. vicious but they seriously are strong just like ah hao smile.gif okay... i think i better get back to continue watching it.. ^^

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[b][font=Courier New][size=7] Please i've tired really hard to look for this series.. i really want to buy it in viet dub.. if anyone knows where i can get a copy then please email me or tell me thanks. please help me out! wavecry.gif

*beckons lovelyshootingstar into a dark alley* you wanna know how to do it do ya.. just go to the rental store and rent it on video or dvd then burn it.. or record it... *nodds*... i would do that myself but yeah... the rental place doesnt have ke ngoai cuoc on disk.. dam them... hey.. its just like downloading... illegal but clearer picture.. lol.... dont know where you would buy it legally in viet though... hmm... i'll ask the rental store about it.. maybe they could hook me up...
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anybody know where i can watch this series with english sub?
i saw 1st eps in youtube in jeddy group and i like the chemistry between ady & dylan.
unfortunately only 1st eps is availabe.
i've heard about this series a long long time ago from my sister, but have'nt got a change 2 watch it.

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[b][font=Courier New][size=7] Please i've tired really hard to look for this series.. i really want to buy it in viet dub.. if anyone knows where i can get a copy then please email me or tell me thanks. please help me out! wavecry.gif


In Viet it's called "Ke Nguoai Cuoc". Maybe if you look for it under that title You might have some luck. I'm in Aus & rented it as a 7 video series from the local Vietnamese/Chinese video shop. I loooooved watching it, so if you haven't I think u will 2.

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i just recently watch it again too.. do day just like 30 minutes ago hahaha makes me feel so good to see them together.. ahem.. anyways.. to get to your question... your sister's conclusion is *cough* wrong.. because it is a fighting fish.. see how the head is small and all that fin looking things.. yep.. because dylan is the fighting fishie and ady is the swallow.. i saw the part where he said she was a swallow flying high, queen of the world kinda thing and he was just a low life fish swimming in a small pond... aww... so much symbolism so yea.. definitely a fighting fish.. doesnt look like the fighting fish he has in his house? the one he keeps in that little small tank.. i think he's like the fish.. always able to survive in the worse conditions... the fighting fish can live in any type or water and the just keep living.. i have like 9 fighting fish in my tank and i watch them eat eachothers fin things.. yep.. vicious but they seriously are strong just like ah hao okay... i think i better get back to continue watching it.. ^^


Hey, thakyou for explainning the part about the fighting fish, I never understand why fighting fish have to go along with the series plot, it become more clearer now.

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anybody know where i can find this series with english sub?
i saw 1st eps in youtube in jeddy group and i like the chemistry between ady & dylan.
unfortunately only 1st eps is availabe.
i've heard about this series a long long time ago from my sister, but have'nt got a change 2 watch it.


I believe episode 1-6 is aviable in english sub.

Guess what?! I finish watching The Outsider 2 and finally understand that series...alot of people tell me a different story of The Outsiders 2 and I watch it myself and understand it....here is a little spoliers on it.

It started with Sun Zi was put in jail, Yu Hao, Xiao Yan Zi, Hong Dou, and Ah Qi follows the car that Sun zi was put into....later, XYZ period pass the time it is suppose to start so she was afraid that she might get pregnant with the rapist....unfortunately, the director didn't explain this part well enough but I don't think she have a baby with the rapist because that never come up....anyway, later Ah bao framed XYZ and YH so they have to run away for a little while.

When they came back, she realized that she was pregnant with Yu Hao...*they must have had affairs and live like couple*...anyway, she was afraid to tell yu hao that they have a baby because if they do, the baby will become their weakness...XYZ didn't tell Yu Hao but he found out on his own, Later, because XYZ didn't listen to YH, Mouse (a bad guy) hit her in the stomach and she miscarriage her first baby with Yu Hao at that scene, the doctor told her that they might have less chance of having a baby again..... but we know in part one that yu hao die and they have Xiao Hao, their son.

thats the part where I stop at, episode 16....luckily its their baby but unluckily, she miscarriage it.

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i never quite understood it... i was quite confused with whose baby it is.. *shrugs* thanks for clearing it ^^ i'm glad its not the rapist baby but still.. yu hao would still love it like his own i'm sure smile.gif

you're welcome sweetrain.. i like how the director put those two in like that.. the pretty swallow and the strong fighting fish.. i think it matches with their characteristics...

viet title for the outsiders: KE NGOAI CUOI it should be 1-15 i think
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i never quite understood it... i was quite confused with whose baby it is.. *shrugs* thanks for clearing it ^^ i'm glad its not the rapist baby but still.. yu hao would still love it like his own i'm sure

you're welcome sweetrain.. i like how the director put those two in like that.. the pretty swallow and the strong fighting fish.. i think it matches with their characteristics...

viet title for the outsiders: KE NGOAI CUOI it should be 1-15 i think


NP. yeah, I believ so too, yu hao would love it no matter what, kind of sad on the part where yu hao unborn baby die....he carry her all thru the street for help...what a sad story, the swallow cannot live long in water, what a song comparison the director make....fish and swallow, so sad, either one will die if they live together.
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hmm the fighting fish makes mroe sense... though it hardly looks like anything hahaha..
i know they keep a little orange fighting fish... but where is it kept??? i never actually see it
or maybe i have but i forget...

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i like part one the most then part two... the original is usually always better then the sequel biggrin.gif



Huh? They have sequel of this series??? What for??
Is the sequel tell the story of that girl finally getting married with someone? Hehe......
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tipsypixel
post Apr 24 2006 7 42 AM
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Huh? They have sequel of this series??? What for??
Is the sequel tell the story of that girl finally getting married with someone? Hehe......

no.. sequel quite confusing... its during the years sun zi is in prison yep.. if you remember... they had a flash back of that time when she had the short short hair... smile.gif that would be the sequel.. i know it doesnt seem to make sense at first but after you watch the outsiders 2 you'll understand biggrin.gif

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hmm the fighting fish makes mroe sense... though it hardly looks like anything hahaha..
i know they keep a little orange fighting fish... but where is it kept??? i never actually see it
or maybe i have but i forget...

okay.. if only i had a picture of a fighting fish.. mmm... can't screen capture the fish on the wall though.. cuz dont have it.. i have it on tape though that i rented.. but thats no good..

kinda look like it now? if you could remember.. =/
it use to be in his old house but when they moved to the new small appartment they kept it outside i think near the giant pillar... since i just saw it like 5 minutes ago.. lol you know how you watch the series and it always has that little break.. it shows the fighting fish hanging from the pillar tongue.gif

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NP. yeah, I believ so too, yu hao would love it no matter what, kind of sad on the part where yu hao unborn baby die....he carry her all thru the street for help...what a sad story, the swallow cannot live long in water, what a song comparison the director make....fish and swallow, so sad, either one will die if they live together.

it is sad... sad-smiley-065.gif but so touching.. him running with ady in his arms double sad-smiley-065.gif yes.. thats true sweetrain... fishie cant live in the sky nor can the birdie swim with fishie in the water...
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MiSZCHELLe
post Apr 25 2006 1 27 AM
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O.O So there is a meaning behind the fighting fish thingy. Thanks, tipsypixel for clarifying. I'm pissed how my mom won't copy the VietDubbed Outsiders tape for me. Piss me off XD. Lots say that they like Ady in the first 10 episodes of how she looks. I think that she looks more better in the last 10 episodes, is that just me? =\
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post Apr 26 2006 9 26 PM
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from when to when was this shown on GTv? and how long is each episode? 1 hour?
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