Anyone dislike TVXQ? Find them overrated?, is there any..?? Options

[sw3etiE]

it seem lik...most..ppl...either love them..or find them ok...but is there anyone that lik...dislike them...and why..??
l personally lik them (find them ok) l jus wanna to noe if there's any disliker out there...hehe

[honeycomb1010]

well personally I LOVE them (well not really since I don't know them personally but still ^^)
they are VERY talented
they sing beautifully
their dancing is the sex
all their songs are very very nice
they look good
they're fun
the PERFECT boyband <3

[nanshi]

I think they're great. I have my hesitations about the meaning of their name (it's something along the lines of "Rising gods of the East (meaning Asia")... but I think the're fantastic. They're all hot... five is a good number (not too many, not too little)... they all have their talents and all balance each other out nicely.

Their singing is great-- very rare to find a boyband/group or any kind of group where ALL the members are fantastic singers. Their dancing is just plain schmexy... all five of them... and each one of them has their own personal attributes that make them attractive. So, I'd be hardpressed to find a group that appeals to MY tastes as thoroughly as TVXQ. Other people may have different tastes, so I can't judge for them... but I think they're great.!



I do remember my intial reactions to TVXQ though, and they weren't very good. ACTUALLY, I think the first time that I'd even ever heard of them was when I was surfing youtube for BoA videos (I was on a bit of BoA high back then) and saw the Tri-Angle video. I didn't know who they were, had no idea... but I thought it was really cool. Actually, my exact reaction was, "WHOA! Anime bishounen (hot *kinda girly'ish* guys) in real life!!!!! >squee<!" But then I didn't pursue it cause I was a bit turned off by the hard, kinda gothic theme of the video.

Then, cause of modding duties, I actually started visitng the TVXQ thread that we have at AF to clean it up. At first it was strictly professional, I didn't look at the pictures (and I couldn't understand the !fangirly! obsessions)... Then I think I started to listen to Jang Ri In's "Timeless" with Xiah... and I was like "WhoA. he's a REALLY good singer!" So with that, I was like "Well, just for hearing him sing, I think I'll go look into this TVXQ a bit more..."

And then time rolled around where I had to set up pt.2 of the TVXQ thread with their profiles and a good first post... and it wasn't as much of a chore as one would expect... And well... i've been pretty into them since then. I enjoy their acappellas and live performances more than anything though. Although, personally, I consider myself a fan of TVXQ only because I just happen to like their songs and think they're pretty. not much more.

This post has been edited by nanshi: Nov 30 2006 8 51 PM

[Super_Fan]

I think they're really cool and very talented people.

I highly doubt they're be many people that dislike them because...
(1) They're very vocally talented.
(2) They're humble.
(3) They can dance reall good!
(4) They're handsome too.

TVXQ forever!

[Simpleton]

I absoluteli LOVE them. They're the perfect boyband. They're all young, hot, and talented in both singing and dancing.

[blueskiez]

they r good!!! Xiah is da best!!!! well.. i love rising sun so much and their dance steps r super hot~

[French_Fries]

I am not crazy about them..and like most other overrated boybands.. their fans are really scary.


I hope that TVSQ can break out of SM town management and make their own style. I don't like how SM town shape these boys..... their latest style? Hero's white hair....tsk tsk

[Sweetwind23]

I think people need to look and hear their performances before juding them and saying that they are overrated. I know they are labeled as a "boyband" and as an "idol group",... so people automatically assume that they are going to suck and talentless. But seriously they are so much more than that because each member has their own style, talent, etc etc.. not to mention they are uber hard-workers and uber humble!!

Let's not forget that they all have AMAZING VOCAL skills and DANCe Skills. They aren't like any other boybands that soley rely on their looks... cause they have mad talents. DBSK can really sing LIVE really really well!!^^ and to top that, they can SING LIVE and Dance(to really rigorous choreography) at the same time really well too!!! what other boyband can do that?

TO be honest, before DBSK, I never NEVEr liked a boyand before... I also (embarrasing) but thought boybands were overrated and talentless. When I first saw DBSK, i was like "man, another stupid boyband!"
But I think to people who don't know or don't like them, it's worth to at least check them out! ^^


These are some of my personal favorite performances by them:

This LIVE perf is to die 4! 1st Japan Concert "Try my Love" --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=tVo5jD5igo4&...ted&search=

(JJ's voice is sooo dreamy!! melts.... Xiah's expession here is priceless!!)

Another Amazing LIVE "I'll be There"--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ayNT-DoYAE

Their most recent Live Performance "You're my miracle"--> http://youtube.com/watch?v=qHboJjvl3ew

JJ's SOLO LIVE performance: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bS7sTC8ynnI (I just love his voice!!)

2004 perf NOW THIS IS SOOO GOOD!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzsawzelxYc
(This is when they FIRST started out, but their voices ae amazing here.... people sitting are all athletes, since this is for 2004 Olympic.... they don't seem to care to much... lol...

Anyways... I can go ON & ON with their amazing Live Perfs... but there are so many other live perfs available to see in youtube^^

Dancing wise: A FACT: They are ALLL amazing dancers! but espeically Yunho and Xiah are sooo freaking Amazing! (I don' t think anyone can dispute with the fact that these two especially are indeed amazing dancers) http://youtube.com/watch?v=lzjcK3lBqUI <---(them dancing a little...)
X-man (a show) is a good way to see their individual dancing skills... ^^


I think another good example of them dacing as a whole is THailand Music Award!! (where they got Best Music Video award & Most Popular Asian Artist award... I heard that they were the first-ever Asian artist to get Best Music Video Award at that award show... since all the other contenders were famous American singers... they were going agasint Gwen Stefani, Mariah Carrey, etc etc.. and they won!! props 4 our DBSK!)

Also if bored, check out their Live Performance of Rising Sun & SKy at A-nation! THey are sooo amazing, even when Yunho wasn't there (due to his injury)... they actually performed 4 Live songs, but only SKy and Rising SUn were released.


WOW... i got carried away.. and almost wrote an essay... sorry for going on and on.... ^^

This post has been edited by Sweetwind23: Dec 10 2006 11 16 AM

[katherinekwokhk]

i think they're the best korean band!!! sing really good!!! they hav hot faces as well!!! actings great too!!! but u dont need to look at their faces, their songs r good!!!

[sw3etiE]

woah..so far..no dislikers...lol...but..l guess there sum tvxq haters out there...since sum girl tried to poison yunho...>< (correct me if im wrong)..scarii ppl..><

oh..and can sumone tell me if...tvxq choreograph theri own dance..and do they compose their own songs...l know mickey wirtes sum song...

This post has been edited by sw3etiE: Nov 21 2006 1 24 PM

[Hurricane32]

there are ok, but i don't find them particular good looking, but they are talented

This post has been edited by Hurricane32: Nov 21 2006 2 45 PM

[French_Fries]

For fans out there, i HAVE listened to them and believe they are talented. However, I prefer them doing acapello or focus more on singing then doing weird fashion and dancing. F*CKing Sm Town are turning them into another H.O.T, and i don't find that original lor specila at all

[vicesofvirtues]

^ I definitely agree; I absolutely LOVE their a cappella (I love a cappella in general too), and it'd be great if they could do more.

But I still think that they're really talented.
Fans are rather scary..I mean, I wouldn't threaten their girlfriends or anything...or like beat some girl up because she kissed one of them.

woah..so far..no dislikers...lol...but..l guess there sum tvxq haters out there...since sum girl tried to poison yunho...>< (correct me if im wrong)..scarii ppl..><

oh..and can sumone tell me if...tvxq choreograph theri own dance..and do they compose their own songs...l know mickey wirtes sum song...

They do choreograph their freestyle..and I think they have choreographed some dances. And I think Mickey has written some songs as well..though I dunno if any of the other members have.

[nanshi]

Yeap. Fans are scary. Especially of most Korean popstars. I think they're the most aggressive that I have ever seen/heard of... ever. They're SCARY.

Anyways, I won't praise them to high heaven... but unlike some other Korean stars that I have encountered... they still have a very "fresh" look about them. They don't look jaded, cynical, or arrogant/conceited as many stars get after they've been in the biz for awhile.

As for the "hardworkers" part... I'm not too sure they're anything special. All celebrities have to work hard onstage and offstage... so meh. Surprisingly though, not too many people have too many bad things to say about them.

SM Town has found a "formula" that works for churning out successful popstars/idols... which is why TVXQ is such a huge hit. They have found five boys that are all uniquely attractive, have won in different 'categories' in order to create the 'ultimate' boyband. Yunho won for dancing; Hero won for best looking; Xiah won for best singing (I think he's the one that balances the group out the best singing-wise. He was also the last one to join TVXQ); Changmin and Micky also got in because of their singing skills (Changmin for his higher range and Micky for his lower range).

Thankfully, maybe because I'm not such a big fan, but SM Town doesn't seem to put a lot of intense focus on them and lets their talents carry them far... not necessarily much else.

[TiFFa.]

^Junsu wrote a song and it's featured on their 3rd album version c or d...i have yet to listen to it...i love them to death they're everything you can ask for<3

[CuteAznBunni]

I LOVE DBSK...i dont think we'll find a lot of..dBSK haters...cuz it's not like they have done anything WRONG..they're really really talented..and like..everyone LOVES them

[katherinekwokhk]

LOLL instead of this thread being a TVXQ disliker, its a TVXQ LIKER!!! lol

sw3etiE : u hav to listen to the music wif FEELINGS lol...its not a mean sentence...its just a like...getting u to like them lol

[PearledOrchid]

I don't think there will be that many DBSK dislikers, especially with the females...however, maybe with some males. They are an awesome group, but I only like two of their songs from their recent album. The rest of the songs are a bit boring for me. I enjoy their songs from their past albums more.

[.Lolly-Pop*]

Everyone had their prefernces about who they like or dislike, but I think there are TVXQ haters out there
Anyway, I like them, I think each members had their own strength and weaknesses but when they are to perform as TVXQ as a group, their performances are excellent [Yes, ofcourse, ther are times where their performances ain't that great] ; I like their chemistry and despsite only knowing each member for not quite a long time as compared to other groups like Shinhwa, I like how their strong friendship was! Their voice harmonies with each other when singing the chorus of the song, but that's expected since they are trianed to become an a capella group
They are well-mannered to the elders and are eager to learn which they have the atitudes that not many newbies in the showbiz have nowadays
hmm... I quite enjoy most of their songs in their lastest album espeically the fact that they are rushed to record this album for only.. 2 months They focus more on ballads this time round but it is still good although the song that makes me repeating the whole album could be 'O' Jung.Ban.Hab
Like what other had said, they are talented and are currently trying to improve themselves by composing more songs which I think they are able to do it when they have the time ^^
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But no offence, I don't get it is some TVXQ haters doesn't listen to their songs and immediately said that they disliked them.... That's kinda ironical

[01S0ULL]

OMG! . I LOVE DBSK !! . theyre sooo hott . and they are definitely talented. i dont know how people can hate them unless the guy is like overly jealous or something . haha . omgg . Sweetwind23 thanks for posting those videos ! <3

[azndgn26]

I find em mediocre, there seems to be NOTHING SPECIAL about them IMO. They are overally overrated. I've heard their songs before and I've only liked maybe 5 of their songs. Many teen girls just dig their looks >.<

[sw3etiE]

LOLL instead of this thread being a TVXQ disliker, its a TVXQ LIKER!!! lol

sw3etiE : u hav to listen to the music wif FEELINGS lol...its not a mean sentence...its just a like...getting u to like them lol

what do you mean..?? l did say i lik them didnt l ...lol....><. .and l listen to my songs wif alot of feelin..thankyou veri much..lol...(not)...^^

This post has been edited by sw3etiE: Nov 28 2006 7 06 AM

[hs.eliz]

they are the best korean artist ever~! wee!! all of them are young, talented, have the moves right, great voice.. and so so so much more~! TVXQ Hwaiting~!

[jjobsessed]

To the people who don't, dbsg's music might not be that good, but to others, it's the bomb. Some people just hate them cause they are just plain JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!

[French_Fries]

fans like that really scare me..... bring that whole, " Oh you hate them cause u are jealous crap"

[Sweetwind23]

fans like that really scare me..... bring that whole, " Oh you hate them cause u are jealous crap"

i actually find fans who hate a celebrity/celebrities even more scary. Disliking is one thing, but Hate? what did the celeb ever do to you? harm you personally? plus, Hate... Isn't that alittle too strong of a word and feeling? If you dislike that group or whoever, then you don't like them. Just don't spend your time hating on them. period.

Why hating on them? And actually spending time to express how much you hate that person? these people have no life but get pleasure from bashing on others. isn't that alittle pathetic? If you have no interest in them, my word of advice....Don't waste your time unless you REALLY don't have a LIFE

So the only logic is... I do kinda agree with "Some people just hate them cause they are just plain JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!"

+++We don't even have enough time to show how much we like someone.

This post has been edited by Sweetwind23: Nov 29 2006 12 29 AM

[lols]

definitely like TVXQ!!..everyone will label those boy band as good looking but talentless band...but then... evryone is TVXQ is just awesome
their dancing is so hot... not one can beat them...
their singing is amazing.. even in live..they can sing pretty well.. not like other taiwanese or Hk singer... lips singing....
their attitude...they r so good n humble.... yoo chun is so sentimental...alwyas cry..yunho is so protective...remmeber seeing him protect a fans who was being accused of being a theif..althought its just a prank....... hero is so nice to all fans.... changmin is so smart n innocent.... junsu is so good to the parents
i know there r many anti fans out there... maybe they just have those prejudice... like for no reason poisoned yunho with super glue....

[French_Fries]

i actually find fans who hate a celebrity/celebrities even more scary. Disliking is one thing, but Hate? what did the celeb ever do to you? harm you personally? plus, Hate... Isn't that alittle too strong of a word and feeling? If you dislike that group or whoever, then you don't like them. Just don't spend your time hating on them. period.

Why hating on them? And actually spending time to express how much you hate that person? these people have no life but get pleasure from bashing on others. isn't that alittle pathetic? If you have no interest in them, my word of advice....Don't waste your time unless you REALLY don't have a LIFE

So the only logic is... I do kinda agree with "Some people just hate them cause they are just plain JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!"

+++We don't even have enough time to show how much we like someone.

IT can go both way can it. how can you LOVE something you don't know personally? Did the celeb really do anything for you to improve your life? ( talking about DBSK now). Love, isn't that too strong of a world as well. IF you "love" an idol/fan, it doesn't give you a right to criticize haters.

Why do we express and waste time on LOVING something/someone who doesn't even know our existence?

SO therefore, I dont' buy that excuse, " U hate them cause u are all jealous". Don't get me wrong, i am pretty sure some guys/girls out there are jealous of their status, but not all haters take"jealouss" asa reason.

[nanshi]

IT can go both way can it. how can you LOVE something you don't know personally? Did the celeb really do anything for you to improve your life? ( talking about DBSK now). Love, isn't that too strong of a world as well. IF you "love" an idol/fan, it doesn't give you a right to criticize haters.

Why do we express and waste time on LOVING something/someone who doesn't even know our existence?

SO therefore, I dont' buy that excuse, " U hate them cause u are all jealous". Don't get me wrong, i am pretty sure some guys/girls out there are jealous of their status, but not all haters take"jealouss" asa reason.

I just don't like it when they use the "You hate them 'cause you're jealous" reasoning as a blanket statement. Yes, all the people who do not !LOVE! <3 <3 <3 and !FANGIRL! DBSK to pieces are all jealous of them. Umm... not necessarily. I will admit that there probably are people, who deep down inside, are secretly jealous of their success... but that does not mean everyone at all. I, for one, can completely understand why people wouldn't like DBSK. Maybe they don't like their genre of music. Maybe they don't like Korean music in general. Maybe they think the boys are unattractive... whatever. There are LOADS of reasons. So, um... sorry... but try not to generalize and stereotype... all non-fans. That's probably what ticks non-fans off the most.

I think using the "love/hate" verbs for any idol/celebrity is too strong. I LOVE DBSK-THE IDOL. Do I love DBSK-THE BOYS? Well, I don't know. Never met them, can't really say.

And DBSK has originated from KOREA. You can visit their (very busy) thread in Korean Male Artists forum for more details and a lengthy profile.

[Sweetwind23]

IT can go both way can it. how can you LOVE something you don't know personally? Did the celeb really do anything for you to improve your life? ( talking about DBSK now). Love, isn't that too strong of a world as well. IF you "love" an idol/fan, it doesn't give you a right to criticize haters.

Why do we express and waste time on LOVING something/someone who doesn't even know our existence?

SO therefore, I dont' buy that excuse, " U hate them cause u are all jealous". Don't get me wrong, i am pretty sure some guys/girls out there are jealous of their status, but not all haters take"jealouss" asa reason.

Yeah, you are right too. I guess I only looked at one extreme side. But personally, I don't waste my time hating on others. I can dislike something, but after that i don't continue on ranting about how much i dislike that person or something, I just don't care about it or i avoid them. And I believe that's what most people do. To Love something and to Hate something are two extreme cases. And they are rare.

But for people who love DBSK, obviously DBSK don't know them personally, but (for the fans) they give the fans happiness through their performances, and music. whenever i hear their music, I feel distressed after working and going to classes, etc. So they do affect me personally and improved my...say, "daily performances"?. but to haters, by hating, does it improve say.. your, "daily performances?"

from my experience, by spending time and wasting time on loving someone like DBSK, i've met some of the greatest friends who have same interest as me. And sounds idiotic, but we're planning a trip to see DBSK. I think it's good to have something you very much look forward to when you are so stressed with schoolwork and parents nagging on you, etc. But i guess you could also say you can find your greatest friend by hating others, you know like "anti-fan clubs". you can find your friends through that. i am not sure if that's true or holds any good intention.

Also, for others, celebrities are like role models. For people who wish to become a part of entertainment business, I think it's a damn good start and i wouldn't call it a waste of time for loving your role model.
Also, DBSK members were fans of H.O.T. They said H.O.T was one of the main reasons why they started out and had a dream to become singers! and i know some people that went to singing/dancing competitions and won money after spending hours and hours looking at dbsk.

But what good does hating someone bring to you? when i look at anti-fan sites, all they say about is how crappy they sing and how they look so fugly. umm.. you at yourselves. are you that much better? plus, i am sure these people have never heard of their singing live. Also, the reason why i say some do hate b.c jealousy is beceause i've noticed with the majority of dbsk's anti-fans was that they are fans of other boyband groups. I was like wtf. they get pissed because dbsk has most fame out of all the boybands.

Funny thing is if you love something(like celebrities), you will obvioulsy search for (videos, music, pictures, etc) it and find it and see it, but the haters do that same exact thing as the lovers!. some will seriously put togehter 30 minutes slide-shows of how much they hate certain person (people who made slide-shows before know that's ALOT of time)

So for fans, i personally wouldn' call it waste of time when it gives you hopes, dreams, and even win Money after looking at your favorite idol. so what positive result or effect does it have for the haters? Also, my question is... does that give that person satisfaction? does it give sense of accomplishement?

Now, I do think hate and love are too strong of words to describe how much you like your idol. i understand if you dislike someone's performances, music, songs, genre, dancing, appearance, b.c trust me! there are tons and tons of artists and celebrities that i dislike! but hate?? .........

Plus, responding to my previous post, it's obvious when you see people that disses someone you respect, or favorite idol or whoever, it's human instinct to defend. right? lol.
okay, i went on and on again. i just typed whatever that was in my head, so some probably won't make sense! lol.. anyways, this is my thought. ^^

This post has been edited by Sweetwind23: Nov 29 2006 6 51 AM

[rainysunday]

not a fan of TVXQ. they seem like nice people on game shows and stuff, but i'm just not a fan of their music or their uh... style. all the hair and the eyeliner creeps me out. and their song balloon or whatever it's called scared the sh*t outta me cuz i'm not into the whole "we're grown men but let's act like we're 12!" style. great marketing strategy, but very odd.

[blu3~cloud]

Yup~ What did you'll say is true...
What for making your life so miserable?!
Hating someone is such a hard task, and you wanna hate someone that will always appears on the screen!!!
You're just abusing yourself..
Hate someone and go to hurt them, in the end you will be ended up in the jail (Yunho case)...
If you dislike someone just avoid to listen to their songs.... or looking to their faces...
Its much more easy compare to hate them right?!
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And about SM that makes their style bad...
But no SM no DBSK!! (although i dont really like SM)
Their hairstyle of O Jung.Ban.Hub is based on the theme of the album...
And I heard that their members give opinion each other...
(Junsu hair was choose by Yunho)
(JJ hair colour was also picked by one of them... but forgot who is.. )
And Balloons, I think this based on the beholder eyes..
We(fans) think that its cute, but some cant accept it (saying grown-up acting like child)...
So no offence... What I can say is this is your opinion...
It is just like ppl that dislike DBSK, its their own opinion...
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I am a fan of them too...
Actually I was not attractted to them at first...
When I saw them on screen I was like: "Boybands again..."
The first song that I listen is Rising Sun, then I think they dance well.. but I dont really think they have good voices...
Then another day, I saw Always There... was aired...
At that moment I was like: "wow!! They can sing accapella?!"
Then I was totally amazed... From that day onwards I was onto them....
So its really the voices makes me love them!!

This post has been edited by blu3~cloud: Nov 29 2006 6 36 AM

[Sweetwind23]

Please do watch videos before saying anything negative about TVXQ ^^

Xiah Junsu
OMG!! freaking best singer!!! I love this guy!

After watching these videos, if you think He is a bad singer.... man... i don't know... LOL

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f8Jv303O5hk <---- Xiah Junsu's SOLO LIVE PERFORMANCE

I think alot of people already know he featured in Jang Li In's Timeless. -->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsZUJXSeAZs
Watch his facial and body expressions!! omg! this guy puts his soul into this performance!


Japan A-Nation 2006
They sang 4 songs in total.
They performed Stay with me Tonight, Begin, Sky , and then Rising Sun (ALL LIVE back to back) But Yunho wasn't here due to his leg injury.

I can't find Stay with me tonight clip on youtube.

But please watch these videos ^^

Begin ---> http://youtube.com/watch?v=oYX1CTY6A4M (fan vid because A-nation only released Sky & Rising Sun performances, but nonetheless, the performance is beautiful ^^)

SKy---> http://youtube.com/watch?v=WWLcopPimwU
Their dance movements here are very Japanese (cute footwork, unlike Rising Sun movements)

Rising SUn --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0JxeceaRPys
(I must say the dance moves aren't the same without Yunho and the stage feels very empty, because Yunho is always in the middle dancing during Rising Sun performance, but again, the singing is amazing!! & they are sweating sooooooo MUCH)



To see their dance performance:
(these are not live, b.c they want to show more of their visual/dance performance, but you can find live ones in youtube)

THailand Music Award- The Way you are ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPLvoNyyWw4
(there is an actual video release from the V CHannel, but I am putting fan cam because you can see their dance moves here better)

Thailand Music Award- Rising SUn --->
1) actual release from V-channel --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=YZ3mF9GxBps
2)THis one is fancam, but again you can see the dance moves here better--->
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O4ZiNbvr0_Q

Taiwan Movie Award - their 3rd Album 'O-Jung ban Hap performance
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mp4_dDe3IsI

Another really good perf of O-Jung Ban Hap with really COOL Intro!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY236RP2UMU...ted&search=[/color][/b]



NOW WITh some more LIVE PERF

O'-Jung Ban Hap LIVE PERF. --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=tiPCMoX9lz8


The Way you are LIVE PERF ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_q6JtGjNsQ (their japanese here is sooo cute!!!)

WHen they were still newbies in Japan
A-nation 2005 -- STAY WITH ME TONIGHT LIVE PERF. --> http://youtube.com/watch?v=D5934w1jaDM

And FINAL... (well, for now ^^) ---> TIME FOR CHRISTMAS SONG!!!!! NOEL and ONE LIVE ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxsrw4CtCPg (they are soo cute here ^^)
Anyways... ENjoy ^^

This post has been edited by Sweetwind23: Nov 29 2006 1 57 PM

[♥luvergal♥]

oh my gosh who could dislike TVXQ?!?!?! they are like the bestest korean band ever!!
TVXQ=Good singing+good dancing+good looks=PERFECTO!!!

[Sweetwind23]

of course, people who waste their time hating on an idol by making anti videos and sites waste their time as well. I myself dislike Boa tremendously but I only rant and use as much reasons ( contructive criticisms) about her in her hate thread. However, what I don't find plausible when her fans defend is,
" oh, you are jealous of her?----> Ebert, movie critic, when he dislikes a film, does he have to be JEALOUS to be able to form a conclusion about a movie and critique it?

"Oh she is god's gift so shut ur mouths"---> i am scared of such remarks.

"Oh she is the best of the best, like u can do any better"---> yes, i am not an idol/star, but doesn't give me the right to dislike an overrated star?
so I agree with Nanshi, don't use blanket excuses.

Yeah, i agree with your comments too!! and i think it is always good to give constructive criticism. Although I am a diehard fan of DBSK, when they do something bad, I critize them! but criticism is needed when you want to improve!!

This post has been edited by Sweetwind23: Nov 29 2006 5 59 PM

[rainysunday]

Yup~ What did you'll say is true...
What for making your life so miserable?!
Hating someone is such a hard task, and you wanna hate someone that will always appears on the screen!!!
You're just abusing yourself..
Hate someone and go to hurt them, in the end you will be ended up in the jail (Yunho case)...
If you dislike someone just avoid to listen to their songs.... or looking to their faces...
Its much more easy compare to hate them right?!
-------------------
And about SM that makes their style bad...
But no SM no DBSK!! (although i dont really like SM)
Their hairstyle of O Jung.Ban.Hub is based on the theme of the album...
And I heard that their members give opinion each other...
(Junsu hair was choose by Yunho)
(JJ hair colour was also picked by one of them... but forgot who is.. )
And Balloons, I think this based on the beholder eyes..
We(fans) think that its cute, but some cant accept it (saying grown-up acting like child)...
So no offence... What I can say is this is your opinion...
It is just like ppl that dislike DBSK, its their own opinion...

lol what are you trying to say in the first part? can you be more coherent? anyway i assume the second part of your post is directed towards my comment. why should i be offended that DBSK has fans? lol i know it's my own opinion, i know the fans have their own opinions. quite frankly you're the one who seems to be incensed. i'm guessing you're trying to say something along the lines of people shouldn't hate on artists in the first part right? i'm not hating on DBSK, i said it seemed like they are all nice people, but i simply don't like the way they present themselves physically and their music style. i can understand your justifications for why they've adopted certain kinds of hairstyles, but that doesn't mean it'll look aesthetically pleasing to me. i don't know if the hardcore haters have legit reasons for taking extreme action against artists (your yunho example), but it goes both ways (people who take extreme actions in hopes of getting rid of these artists and people who take extreme actions in hopes of getting closer to their idols).

[Sweetwind23]

not a fan of TVXQ. they seem like nice people on game shows and stuff, but i'm just not a fan of their music or their uh... style. all the hair and the eyeliner creeps me out. and their song balloon or whatever it's called scared the sh*t outta me cuz i'm not into the whole "we're grown men but let's act like we're 12!" style. great marketing strategy, but very odd.

LOL.. although I love everything about DBSK, I certainly didn't like when they first came out with balloon outfits!! I was like WT****? lol. Yeah they are so cute (fans' point of view), but so different from their tough, sexy, hot image from O' and Rising Sun. And yeah i think they are trying to get different age groups to like them, (not just teens) so yeah! great marketing strategy.

I most definetly understand why you (and people who don't know DBSK) find that scary, cause trust me I was too! and i've been watching DBSk for almost a year!.

Also, with O' (hair and clothes) style, at first, I wasn't all that happy! such drastic change from their previous album! and I am sure alot of fans have the same opinion as I do.

But now I love the changes! it freshens the whole DBSK! not just repetitive and old-style! LOL.

[cutie_bratz14]

HAHA Okay so I don't find really huge haters as of the moment..
Lol! And I do agree that fans of TVXQ are a bit crazy sometimes... I love Cassiopeia though ... they're awesome but just scary .. you know on how in TV shows like when a girl is being introduced to TVXQ the MC's will be like 'You've lived quite long without anti-fans, say goodbye to those days' ... XDD
I'm a huge fan of TVXQ .. but I must admit I wasn't really into them at first..
Well, when they debuted.. I was like okay .. i didn't mind them that much
and then I saw Tri-Angle.. I thought they were some j-rock head banging boys so I wasn't really interested in them .. and really.. I thought Jae Joong was some cross-dressing girl .. 0.0.. His face was even prettier than mine .. all of them when dressed in a skirt would probably be noticed by a dozen more guys than me XD
don't even mention the time when a guy messaged me on msn saying 'you're pretty hot' when my display pictures was one of the members of tvxq -.-" . lmao
i slowly started getting into kpop .. thanks to boa.. then i saw one performance of her with tvxq.. it was some mariah carey song .. still i wasnt imressed and i was still a bit freaked out about jj's prettiness and puffy hairstyle.. but i was like 'why not give them a chance..' i searched for more videos of them and before i even know it .. ive memorized hug after like listening to it 5 times... then they dominated the files in my computer.. my videos, my music, my pictures.. its full of tvxq .. and my favorite member ended up being none other than Kim Jae Joong .. well, lesson learned.. don't judge a book by its cover.. ^^ besides their good looks, awesome talent.. i just love them for being them, the dorky pretty-faced guys ..

[01S0ULL]

i wasnt reallly into them when my friend showed me the 'rising sun' mv . i was like okay . yunho is a good dancer and jaejoong is pretty hot. didnt look like a girl there. then i saw 'triangle' i was like . whoa freaky . then i thought jaejoong was soo pretty. better face than a lot of girls . which kinda freaked me out . and then i heard their songs and i was like SH*T . they can sing . and then i found jaejoong to be SOOOOOOOOOO perfect and i felll in love with him along with the rest of the dbsk guys

I find em mediocre, there seems to be NOTHING SPECIAL about them IMO. They are overally overrated. I've heard their songs before and I've only liked maybe 5 of their songs. Many teen girls just dig their looks >.<

they are probably the perfect boyband .okayokay . lets do this. dont judge their looks for now.
1) they have AMAZING vocals
2) they can certainly dance . especially yunho
3) have great songs that arent like normal boyband songs
4) great variety in music
5) each have their own style in music

NOW lets judge their looks. THEY ARE JUST HOTHOTHOT !

theyve got the whole package! looks AND talent

This post has been edited by love*knots: Dec 4 2006 6 55 AM

[TiFFa.]

i love them to death but i wouldn't say i ljust ove them cuz of their looks cuz i was FREAKED OUT by their looks.....they looked soooo much like girls. esp jaejoong. i couldn't even look at his picture cuz it was that scary. but yea i still listened to their songs. and they were getting hotter and more manly looking as they went through changes and now they're just HOT HOT HOT!! <3 and their dancing is soo good i can just sit and watch their performance all day.