[Charray] Charmaine and Raymond, ---> Not a good pairing? Rating Options

[babycookie]

Lately, there has been lots of Charray fans rising and I do admit I used to think they looked pretty good before. Nowadays, I don't. Charmaine has been aging pretty fast these years (even though she is still pretty), I think her look is too mature for Raymond. Whenever I see them nowadays, I think of little brother and older sister. O.O Besides, from what I see, Raymond does not seem that enthusiastic whenever he is around Charmaine. He usually is looking stiff or not really smiling. If he smiles, it looks a bit forced and uncomfortable.

Maybe Raymond should be with younger girls who match his looks like Tavia, Linda, Michelle, etc. While Charmaine should go for older, mature looking men such as Moses Chan or Joe Ma.

^ That is just my opinion. Not trying to flame Charray because they looked pretty good before but they seem better off without each other.

So who thinks Charray is not a good pairing?

NOTE: This is for those not into Charray so if Charray fans do come in here, don't jump and attack anyone for their opinions.

This post has been edited by babycookie: Nov 16 2007 9 00 PM

[~Akane~]

So who thinks Charray is not a good pairing?

NOTE: This is for those not into Charray so if Charray fans do come in here, don't jump and attack anyone for their opinions.

NOTE: THIS THREAD IS NOT STARTED BY FUNGYI-FANS from the official thread and is in NO WAY associated with us (just thought I'll throw a disclaimer first).

But I personally agree that Raymond looks better off with siu fa and Charmaine is better off with older actors of her generation and status. Physical looks and everything. Do they have chemistry??~~ well...I think Ray and Charmaine acts the same regardless they are with each other or not. It's not bad I guess, but it never got me to like them that's all.



This post has been edited by shellstarx.: Mar 10 2008 8 41 PM

Reason for edit: off-topic

[babycookie]

When I watched LWOLAP, Charray didn't capture my attention. They were ok mostly. The offscreen pictures of Charray (them being all intimate and friendly) make them seem good together but after awhile, I see the same vibe around them. I don't see the excitement that emits from a couple.

I don't mind seeing them onscreen as a pair but offscreen, definitely not. Can't imagine it. >.<

This post has been edited by shellstarx.: Mar 10 2008 8 40 PM

Reason for edit: off-topic

[.JETI.]

Well..personally I don't really like Charray, no chemistry and they don't match. I guess I would want Ray to pair up with someone his age and Charmaine with actors like Bowie, Moses etc. Eh that's my opinion, don't flame me because I'm a fungyi fan

This post has been edited by shellstarx.: Mar 10 2008 8 38 PM

Reason for edit: off-topic

[~Akane~]

I'm thinking atm that Ray wants someone younger than him as his girlfriend if you're talking about real life. From his interview, he was like 'Linda is the actress I'm paired with who's younger than me' etc...so yea, Ray and Linda fans will be thrilled. I just accepted that because I'm only concerning on-screen now.

LWOLAP? The series itself was a bore...I gave it up after a few episodes. I heard it picked up its pace later etc...but I gave it a miss. Was it a rumour or something that Michelle was meant to be Sonjia's role etc... might have been more 'refreshing'. I like TOB's casting better, lead by newbies but everyone did a great job. Like watching a fanfic

hey MAANGOH~ haha I totally get you...that's why I threw a disclaimer.

This post has been edited by shellstarx.: Mar 10 2008 8 32 PM

Reason for edit: off-topic

[★vitaMING]

charray just dont match..
no chemistry whatsoever..
charmaine looks more like his older sister.. not lover..lol
and most series they pair in are so boring.. makes them even more boring..

[Shoe.]

it's just that I get the impression people always target Fungyi group saying that we 'pick on Raymond with other pairings' so I thought I'll throw a disclaimer first to say we didn't start this thread. It's absolutely necessary considering how our fan-base was more recently 'attacked'. It's crazy really.

I'm thinking atm that Ray wants someone younger than him as his girlfriend if you're talking about real life. From his interview, he was like 'Linda is the actress I'm paired with who's younger than me' etc...so yea, Ray and Linda fans will be thrilled. I just accepted that because I'm only concerning on-screen now.

LWOLAP? The series itself was a bore...I gave it up after a few episodes. I heard it picked up its pace later etc...but I gave it a miss. Was it a rumour or something that Michelle was meant to be Sonjia's role etc... might have been more 'refreshing'. I like TOB's casting better, lead by newbies but everyone did a great job. Like watching a fanfic

hey MAANGOH~ haha I totally get you...that's why I threw a disclaimer.

LOL. You just cracked me up with your disclaimer. Seriously, even then, I think they would still continue their "attack" on anyone who says something bad *ahem*.

Anyway, I have absolutely ZEN interest in this particular couple. Just a note: I'm neither a fan of Raymond nor a fan of Charmaine. Even though the age difference between the two isn't that wide-apart, I feel that Raymond should instead be paired up with an actress who's much younger because to be frank, Charmaine doesn't look her age... in fact, she looked a hell lot older than her current age.

[stars13]

I am not a FungYi Fan instead I am a Michelle and Raymond Fan. Yeah these two are a rubbish couple. I can't stand them. They don't match at all. Don't understand why people go crazy over these two?

[ankanguyen]

I don't find why people are obsessed about this pair. In my opinion Charmaine Sheh is tooo old or perhaps tooooo mature for Raymond. Raymond Lam makes a better couple with Michelle

[noir_mireille13]

^^ haha i went to see it. and it was

it was hilarious how they could think of all those things to make it charray related.. it makes me sick.

i dislike the fact that they diss the females artist who are close to raymond.. it makes them fans looks super immature.. and make me dislike charray even more now..

they not only diss on females with raymond. they even dissed on benny chan who used to be paired with Charmaine. They got me riled up because of benny's dissing and i thought they would stop. seems like they can't stop it.

it is weird how they think raymond is so mesmerized with charmaine when he actually looks pretty bored around her. O_O

[babycookie]

I have seen it. It irks me that some of them would do that, making fun of other actresses around Raymond and other actors beside Charmaine. They made fun of Kevin when he was just walking Charmaine down the carpet. O_O It's even more ridiculous how one of the fans got pissed over the brief Fungyi hand holding moment, condemning it as just a handshake. T_T

I don't even think Raymond even harbors any feelings for Charmaine. If he were, he wouldn't act bored and uncomfortable around her like some of you were saying. I just hope TVB stop putting them together in series.

[irrationally ade...]

I don’t fancy this couple at all even though I like raymond. To me, I wont esp rent or buy a series with them as leads. But if it is aired on television, I wont mind watching. Honestly, charmaine looks older than ray thus I see a older sis and younger bro rather than a couple. as a fungyi fan, i think it is not approriate for me to comment much but i tot those captions and bashing was silly too. I am not a fan of linda but i dont like to see those captions criticising her and putting her down like some desperate freak.

[oCh3llo]

sorry to say that i don think they are matching!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i prefer raymond with tavia or moylie or linda or michelle or sharon or shirley or kate or whoever younger generation rather than charmaine ... i mean its so obvious that charmaine look older than raymond...raymond has those boyish look on him and i feel like they are just like elder sister and younger brother....

[S~J]

I have no idea why they got paired together. Raymond is younger than Charmaine >< and he looks younger than Charmaine too. I hate this pairing D: I think Charmaine ages pretty fast too.

[~Akane~]

hey fox! yea it's true that Ray is paired with 'older' woman...Bosco as well since I think he's younger. Well...same year ppl like Myolie, Tavia, Kate, Bernice etc... it's ok...I mean...it's not really that big a deal. I think what people means is 'cross generation'...like you feel Charmaine's age and status is in another generation category whereas Shirley/Sharon/etc...are from the same 'group'. Maybe it's the fact that Charmaine was promoted to lead for a while before the new group emerged you get the feeling she's 'older' more.

Anyhow...cross generation or not...I don't really like Charmaine because I think she's over-rated and her acting is going downhill more than up for me. Since WAB. So yea...next to my idol obviously I am not too keen. etc...etc...

[stars13]

Lolz, just want to bring something funny to the theard so dun kick me out.

Ah, actually, Fung is younger than most of his co-workers.

- Melissa, Charmaine, Yoyo is 4 years older than him.

- Shirley and Sharon is 1 year older than him.

- Myolie, Tavia, Kate, Bernice is few months older than him.

So not only Charray is elder sis - younger bro relationship.

There is someone who is actually younger than Raymond and it's Michelle Ye! Oh and the new actress like Linda Chung as well. Age doesn't really matter as long as you look good together. Like if you didn't tell me Tavia is older than Raymond I thought she was younger than him. But Charmaine just looks older than him like a big sister

[LEMONLOVEEE]

i dont like charray .. charmaine looks a bit too old for raymond
they kinda look like brother & sister to me
charmaine shud go with the more mature looking guys
raymond shud go with younger looking girls

no offense~

[hii]

I don't like Charray either. Don't get me wrong, I like Charmaine, but I just don't like this pairing. Also, I think the main reason why there are so much Charray fans is because most of them are Charmaine fans. So, that makes Charray fans so much.

I think Charmaine looks better with ChiLam and Raymond with Leila/Tavia. Charmaine and Raymond looks more like brothers and sisters to me.

[Yunsias ♥]

One thing that I don't like about them is that Charmaine looks so much older than him! And also he has this constipated expression on his face everytime he's with her, it just shows how uncomfortable he's with her. I can't comment on their chemistry on-screen because I haven't watch any shows that have their pairings. If CharRay fans are really doing what you guys are talking about, then it's disgusting!

[stars13]

I don't like Charray either. Don't get me wrong, I like Charmaine, but I just don't like this pairing. Also, I think the main reason why there are so much Charray fans is because most of them are Charmaine fans. So, that makes Charray fans so much.

I think Charmaine looks better with ChiLam and Raymond with Leila/Tavia. Charmaine and Raymond looks more like brothers and sisters to me.

I use to think that Charmaine and Juilan was a good couple but Charmaine is aging so quickly and her image has changed alot. I've seen Juilian recently and he has still stayed the same. Like Raymond's age. Charmaine looks older than Julian now!

It's a shame on Raymond since he is always force to pair up with her.

[R33ve]

i'm a fan of this couple but i have to say is raymond has to wear very mature when they pair up in a series just like LWOLAP and TDOL...

[sandalls]

I started laughing when I saw this thread....dunno why I found it funny....

anyways, it still shocks me that Charray won the AF Poll for best chemistry in HK Series...

but yer, did like them in LWOLAP but hated them as a couple onwards.....

[Aznbadboi]

Nah, this couple is not for me. I like Raymond as an individual and Charmaine's acting is good throughout the years, but she looks old compare to raymond.

We can tell by the looks in DOL, she looks old and mature.

[tvb-maniac]

They looked quite good in DOL, but I'm not a fan.

I agree they do look like brother & sister, they have a 4 year age gap.



This post has been edited by tvb-maniac: Mar 11 2008 9 44 PM

[siaoliao]

It's not Charray I have a problem with. For that I have no comment.

But it's Charray fans the scare the heck out of me. I know there must be many nice Charray fans out there, but the bulk of fans I've come across are so aggressive! They criticize other pairings to no end, and when supporting their pairing they just keep going at it. Frankly, it kind of freaks me out.

[Collie]

i dont like them as a couple i agree charmaine does look older than raymond in pictures and drama.

Yea its realy obvious that Charmaine is older. she cud b his older sister.

It's not Charray I have a problem with. For that I have no comment.

But it's Charray fans the scare the heck out of me. I know there must be many nice Charray fans out there, but the bulk of fans I've come across are so aggressive! They criticize other pairings to no end, and when supporting their pairing they just keep going at it. Frankly, it kind of freaks me out.

that is so true. they just force you to like Charmaine or Charray and all u feel like is that omg i thought this couple was ok and nw ur like no i hate the couple

[rayoliefan]

Yeah, I agree that Charray fans are pretty agressive, and they also look down on other actresses paired with Ray.

[stars13]

Yeah, I agree that Charray fans are pretty agressive, and they also look down on other actresses paired with Ray.

That is so true they always look down on people who are close with Raymond. I know alot of actress who looks better than Charmaine with Raymond.

[「kahing ♥」]

Personally, I don't really like Raymond being paired up with girls that are older than him. It just looks weird, I prefer Raymond with Leila, Tavia and them, even Linda, because it suits him more. Melissa was an exception, because it was supposed to be like that in the series, but Charmaine? Charmaine looks more like Raymond's sister than lover. Hopefully they don't get paired up again.

Yeah, I agree that Charray fans are pretty agressive, and they also look down on other actresses paired with Ray.

Really? I heard of them being aggressive, but I haven't really seen it personally.

[*.marshmalloww]

Excuse me, you guys are starting to go on Charray FANS and not Charray? Maybe you should start another thread on the fans instead and talk about the fans THERE. I'm a Charray fan and I do NONE of those things. wtf...look down on other actresses w/ Ray? Please, we may not like SOME of the actresses, but how the heck is that looking down on them?

[irrationally ade...]

Excuse me, you guys are starting to go on Charray FANS and not Charray? Maybe you should start another thread on the fans instead and talk about the fans THERE. I'm a Charray fan and I do NONE of those things. wtf...look down on other actresses w/ Ray? Please, we may not like SOME of the actresses, but how the heck is that looking down on them?

sorry to say it did happen. i saw some of these posts. some charray fans came up with some captions of say photos of linda with ray and some were criticising linda. and some of the victims were fala, linda, kelvin etc... one of the example is the photo with fala, linda and ray walking the red carpet during the tVB anniversary.
one caption was like, Ray: Stop grabbing on to me, linda. i want to look for my charmaine.
There were more and some were harsher. i know you are a new charray fan so maybe you are not aware of such things.

we are talking some charray fans in particular. we are not definitely not generalising because some of the charray fans are not like that. no offense to any charray fans but that is the truth.

This post has been edited by irrationally adept: Mar 28 2008 3 21 AM

[*.marshmalloww]

sorry to say it did happen. i saw some of these posts. some charray fans came up with some captions of say photos of linda with ray and some were criticising linda. and some of the victims were fala, linda, kelvin etc... one of the example is the photo with fala, linda and ray walking the red carpet during the tVB anniversary.
one caption was like, Ray: Stop grabbing on to me, linda. i want to look for my charmaine.
There were more and some were harsher. i know you are a new charray fan so maybe you are not aware of such things.

we are talking some charray fans in particular. we are not definitely not generalising because some of the charray fans are not like that. no offense to any charray fans but that is the truth.

okay. that's like a caption. and that's not looking down on someone either. And I'm sorry to say that i've seen OTHER people make captions like that as well including stuff with Charmaine...others,etc. It's not just charray fans in particular. But my main point was that you guys shouldn't be insulting the fans; at least not here because technically, you're not critcisizing Charray's fans, you're talking about the COUPLE.

[irrationally ade...]

okay. that's like a caption. and that's not looking down on someone either. And I'm sorry to say that i've seen OTHER people make captions like that as well including stuff with Charmaine...others,etc. It's not just charray fans in particular. But my main point was that you guys shouldn't be insulting the fans; at least not here because technically, you're not critcisizing Charray's fans, you're talking about the COUPLE.

it is not? it is basically demeaning other artists and in a way looking down on them. do you think highly of someone if you are criticising them? you sounded like it is of no big deal. sorry, i have not seen others making captions putting other artists down and maybe that is why i got so uptight over it. you mean you saw it in some other couple thread? i felt that it was very uncalled for because the captions are not in the least true. but i guess comments about the fans should be talked about somewhere else.

[Yunsias ♥]

-MOD BREAK-

Please do not attack fans or members here. About what irrationally_adept said about the captions and talking bad about other artistes other than the couple themselves, it is kinda rude. These things should only be in the artistes/couples' critic thread like the anti-Rayda thread. This goes to not only the CharRay's thread but any other couple's threads too.

THANK YOU.

This post has been edited by blue maniac: Mar 28 2008 4 36 PM

[siaoliao]

Please do not attack fans

Ah, I believe I have to apologize for that one. Unintentionally I think I must have sparked off something of that nature. Really should have kept my fingers to myself. I made clear that I was not referring to all Charray fans, but nevertheless I should have paid more attention to the rules.

Anyway, I'm not a Charray hater per say (though they are possibly a bit low on my list), so others, ehm, carry on?

[ILoveTavia]

Ray does not look very natural with Char.
Char looks quite old and less pretty to me, she doesn't seem to suit Ray.
Then again, i'm quite biased

[imsupercheesy]

Ahhhh love this thread! IMO, Charmaine looks so much older (she IS older than him). Raymond has that youthful macho look which is not compatible with Charmaine.

This post has been edited by -carmen-: Apr 28 2008 7 31 AM

[tvbfanatic1996]

I personally don't like the "Charray" pairing. I think Charmaine is wayyy too old for Raymond but she is alright looking.

[karenhor]

i had NEVER thought tht they wil make a good pair. put the age matter aside, they also do not match each other. i dont know how to express it out, but it just seem to have boundaries between them that make them not have chemistry together. just dont know why.

i've got to admit tht i dont like this pairing because i dislike charmaine. not to say tht i'm bias, but its true that charmaine doesnt match raymond. ray always looked quite forceful or probably a little fake when he's with charmaine. so why pair them together? thats just my opinion though...

[Yunsias ♥]

I'm watching LWOLAP and CharRay's storyline is so boring! And I get the shivers when Charmaine goes "Fung Dai Gor". I just want to skip all the CharRay's scenes to Bosco/Sharon and Power/Mimi scenes!