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> Black & White (痞子英雄 ) aka Ruffian Hero, Vic Zhou, Mark Zhao, Janine Zhang, Ivy Chen
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sytwo
post Aug 26 2008 12 50 PM
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QUOTE (Evelyn_vz @ Aug 26 2008 7 08 PM) *
Dear sytwo:
This picture is from B&W drama. They are dad and daugther. worship.gif Like all of you here I can't wait to watch ZZ playing in another exciting role. thumbsup.gif


Evelyn_vz,
Wow, really? That pix is actually from B&W? I do recognize the veteran male actor (Ivy's dad) being in another scene in B&W with ZZ. He is a HK actor and I love watching him. But have forgotten his name. He also acted in Love Storm together with ZZ.

This means he (the veteran actor) is gonna act as the Triad Head whose daughter (Ivy) will fall in love with Vic's character almost at first sight, or first "fight", hah hah hah!! I just can't wait to see this scene when Ivy and Vic first meet. He is gonna flirt with her, she will throw him to the ground (cuz she knows martial arts) and then somehow, falls madly in love with ZZ!! Gaahhh!! This must be the most unique "falling in love" scene I have ever heard of. biggrin.gif

Here's a pix of Ivy "throwing" ZZ down (then promptly fall in love with him)



ZZ with Ivy’s “dad” in B&W



Another exciting scene from B&W. Kingone pointing the gun at a cheeky Ruffian ZZ who is probably trying to “scheme” his way out of this situation


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Can't wait for B&W to air!!
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post Sep 15 2008 2 28 AM
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This drama very very interesting .
Can't wait to watch the drama

The triler very interesting too.

Black & White Triler

Credit Thanks : wretch.cc/blog/prajnaworks

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/prajnaworks/14808944
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post Sep 16 2008 3 53 AM
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The B&W trailer/ BTS video looks very, very exciting. Here's the translation too. Dir Cai is really a very visionary and courageous director. He is someone who changes the landscape of Taiwan's entertainment and drama industry.

Black & White trailer/ BTS
Translated by sytwo@Asianfanatics.net


Link to B&W blogsite :
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/prajnaworks/14808944

Download links :
http://www.mediafire.com/?xw17nyb1mit
credit thanx to orangevic@pantip.com for the download files...


Chinese words at the beginning (sytwo : Not 100% accurate)
“Only in places where there is light will there be shadow”


0:00 min – 0:23 min
Dir Cai’s wife (producer)
Hello everyone, I am Yu Shiao Hui. I am the producer for this drama Black & White.

0:24 – 0:42 min
[show clips of B&W. Mark fired gunshots over the car, ZZ shouted something like “Don’t be so aggressive/ violent !” or something like that]

0:43 - 0:45 min
[clip of showdown between Mark and some gangs, ZZ standing at the side. When everyone raised their guns, ZZ raised his hands and shouted “Hey, hey everyone! Don’t do anything rash!”]

0:46- 0:48 min
[clip of ZZ shouting at a man “You are not making any sense!!”]

0:49 -1:40 min
[continue showing scenes from the drama, including ZZ and Ivy Chen’s kissing scene (!) and the big bombing of the burger shop. BTW, the man with bleached hair holding the 2 silver suitcases looks like Jimmy Hung, Samo Hung’s son and one of the action choreographer for this drama (I think) and Vanness’good friend.]

1:40 – 3:26 min
Dir Cai’s wife (producer)
Let me talk with you a bit more about this drama B&W. It was around 2002 or 2003 which is about 5 years ago, even before my daughter was born, that Director Cai started to think about this drama. But at that time, there were many challenges that he was not able to overcome or settle. This included our ability as producers and our depth of experience, all of these has not reach the level to be able to make this drama B&W. If we had insisted on making this drama then, there is a high possibility that we will not be able to achieve the ideas and plans that we have in mind. So at that time, we decided to choose another drama which was Mars, working with ZZ. And there was also another producer that is Ms Angie Cai.

So B&W was put to one side. And in between, we shot The Hospital. This drama (B&W) continued to be put aside. Because too many people kept telling Dir Cai that “this drama is quite impossible. For one thing, we do not have the expertise in this area ie action and gun fight, and where will you find the funds?” Because we can forsee that this drama is one that will incur a lot of money. And so we just kept this drama in our hearts and did not do anything about it.

It was after we finished filming The Hospital, and Dir Cai spent about half-a-year thinking about what he plans to work on next. He wrote a lot of stories/ scripts (sytwo : not sure of exact words) and did a lot of homework. But one day, he came to me and said “I still want to do B&W. No matter how many people try to stop me, telling me that it is impossible, I still want to do it.” And so we said, “Alright let’s do it” and that’s how we started.

3:27 – 3:49 min

[Clips of Dir Cai directing and coaching ZZ, Janine and Mark in their different scenes]

3:50 – 4:21 min
Dir Cai’s wife (producer) :
The story of this drama is an original one entirely created by him (Dir Cai). The origin of this drama story is pretty interesting. Actually at that point of time, this was an action-police drama that was specially written for F4. We felt that after F4 has gone through a dream-like period, which is after Meteor Garden, what story/ drama can we write for the four of them that will make them look different?

4:22 – 4:36 min
And so ZZ’s characeter, Ruffian, was especially written for ZZ. Of course before that, ZZ has never acted as a ruffian-like character. He is a policeman, but he is a coward and afraid-to-die type of guy.

4:37 – 4:39 min
[clips showing ZZ hiding by the side of the car, and also flirting with Ivy Chen]
(laughed) He is the type who when he sees bullets he will escape/ avoid/ run away, and when he sees girls he will flirt. A character that is “tien fu shing”. (sytwo : don’t understand this words)

4:40 – 5:11 min
But at that time, no one would think that ZZ can act such a character. But Dir Cai feels that he can. Dir Cai and ZZ has a certain relationship. He said “You know, ZZ is not a melancholic prince. He is not. Everyone have been deceived by him. He is actually a ruffian. ”

5:12 – 5:19 min
In his (Dir Cai) heart and mind, he (ZZ) has a different facet of personality. And so when he (Dir Cai) wrote out the character of Ruffian, he went deep into each layer and facet of ZZ’s personality. He wants to “bring this out” from ZZ. And felt that the audience will find it meaningful, very meaningful.

(sytwo : Bua ha ha ha! I like how Dir Cai described ZZ. He understands ZZ so well. That’s why ZZ love working with Dir Cai so much. Dir Cai is right, ZZ is really a Ruffian at heart and has multi-layers of personality.)


5:20 – 5:47 min
[clips of ZZ acting as Ruffian, including saying something to Mark (probably something ridiculous), flirting with Janine at the lab and behind-the-scene of him doing a cute dance at the sidewalk. So ke-ai! This must be part of the ZZ BTS film that was lost and then found again. There is also the scene of ZZ being thrown by Ivy and the fighting scenes where we see ZZ all hurt and bloodied. Love ZZ in the intense action scenes, especially holding a gun !! )

5:48 – 6:34 min
[clip of a bloodied ZZ was shown while Dir Cai’s wife continued talking]
When we write the script and storyline, we are slightly from most other producers/ writers. We normally start from a real person…..for example we will think about what story do we write for ZZ, or what story do we write for so-and-so…..we feel that this person is that character, or when we have decided a certain person for a role, we will write according to that particular person. And so in our dramas, the character and the actor is matched and merged together. So the actor will become popular easily and audience will also easily accept and like him. Because he is very close to the character he plays. Or there is no major differences and the two (character and actor) can be merged as one.

(sytwo : Wow! Love how Dir Cai and his wife puts the actor first when they create the characters and write the script. It’s no wonder that for Mars, Dir Cai actually tweaked the role of Ling so that it is close to ZZ’s character – fun, cheeky and mischievous besides being cool, ladies-man and dangerous. Ling is a little different from the original manga Rei who is more cool but not as fun and cheeky.)

6:35 – 6:55min
Now about the process of selecting the actors for the roles, I encountered a lot of problems/ challenges. Because when it was no longer these four people (F4) who will be acting, we had to start looking for other actors. But we have never thought that we must look for actors similar to the four of them. Instead, we want to look for someone that gives us the right feel/ vibes.

6:56 – 7:32 min
I feel that what’s especially unique (in selecting the actors) is Mark. Mark plays the character of Hero. The first time we met him, he was this young guy. He was very shy and stands beside his father. And don’t really dare to put himself upfront. But you can see that this young man, although looks very polite and shy and introverted, but inside of him you can see a very big energy and ability. But it has not come out yet. Dir Cai secretly told me that he (Mark) has a very big chance (of getting the role or being an actor).

7:33 – 8:09 min
We really went through an online selection process because we wanted to open up this opportunity to all. One directive that Dir Cai gave us was to use new people, whether in terms of the actors or the crew. Let those who are interested in this industry join this drama to get experience and development. So we said “OK” and we did it. And so although Mark attracted the director’s attention even from the beginning, in the middle of this he went through a very long, extensive and competitive selection process.

8:10 – 8:30 min
It was really painful during that time. Especially the 12 of them (in the finals), as their relationship with each other was very good but all of them know that “if you win, I will lose.” And Mark, from someone who was introverted and dare not talk a lot, through all the numerous audition and performances, was finally selected by all the judges as the final winner.


8:31 – 9:19 min
His (Mark) righteous character, and his attitude of always wanting to do things well, won him the role of Hero. I feel that there is no question that Mark should be taking up this character. The role of Hero was also changed a lot due to Mark. When he joined us, we amended some of the script and also the feelings and relationships. How he interacts and acts opposite ZZ, how they enter into friendship, how they fight and quarrel. He (Mark) does not like him (ZZ) but in the end they became the best/ unbeatable partners (sytwo : not sure of this words)…..we made changes/ adjustments to all of these areas. So I feel that the creation of this character Hero has gone through a very unique process.

9:20 – 9:45 min
[clip of Mark being announced as the winner for the role of Hero, shows him crying after the announcement. Very touching neh!]

9:46 – 10:50 min
Lady’s voice (not sure of this is still Dir Cai’s wife) :
I was very anxious because since we made the selection, it becomes our responsibility. We have to “force” or lead them (new artistes) to the right place. Because although we selected them based on their performance and the on-screen test was OK, there is still a gap (in skills?). And so a few months before and during the shoot, we spent a lot of time to teach them. We always do such things. This is a very big sacrifice on our part and also a big responsibility. Because if we do not make sure that these new artistes do well, our drama will still be the one that will suffer. And the accountability/ burden will still be ours. I do not know if everyone will understand such a feeling. It may seem as if we have to painfully select the two new artistes, but in actual fact we ourselves have made the decision (sytwo : not sure of this last sentence).

10:51 min – END
[clip of Mark, close-up, saying “So this is what’s happening. I have been tricked by all of you.”


= END OF TRANSLATION =



More close-up screen caps of our Ruffian ZZ !!





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post Sep 24 2008 11 40 AM
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I am SOOOOO excited to watch zz in another drama. after wish to see you again, i'm looking forward to a completely new character to watch zz transform into and to bring alive to the audience. this drama feels so fresh and new. i love that it's not based on a manga but is an original storyline by the director and i love how they are trying to incorporate each actor's personality into it. i can't wait to see this. it looks like they are putting so much time and money into this. and when a company is willing to invest that much, it must mean they believe in its potential. and probably in its potential to reach a broader spectrum of viewers. it has such a more mature look and feel to it already... totally not your typical idol drama faire!

i'm really excited to see this mark guy act too, that last scene where his eyes are tearing up...it looked like such a powerful scene. i hope the storyline is going to be really interesting. i didn't really like the hospital that much, but i loved mars so i hope i'll like this one.

i hope the romance pairings have great chemistry. i know zz will do a great job no matter what, but i'm hoping for a really believable pairing that we can fall in love with for a while. beside barbie, zz hasn't been paired with anyone i've thought was AMAZING and believable to me.

can't wait until it comes out! hopefully it will be soon!!!!!

thanks for the video, sytwo! it was so fun to watch all those scenes! zz is growing up so much in his talent!

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post Sep 29 2008 11 33 AM
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Hi sukyaki
Long time no "see"! Heh heh! I can't wait to watch B&W either. Dir Cai is taking such a long time to shoot this, but after watching the trailer and how Mrs Cai described the dream he has for B&W, I am willing to wait. This is Dir Cai's passion and dream project, and he is pouring his whole heart and soul into it. So I am sure it will be amazing and a breakthrough drama for Taiwan, and maybe even Asian dramas. I certainly hope all the efforts put in by Dir Cai, ZZ, Mark and the rest of the cast and crew will reap its rewards in positive reviews, good ratings and numerous awards.

ZZ's Ruffian role is going to be one that I wait with much anticipation. Esp knowing that it was specially created for him. Pray that ZZ will give another breakthrough performance and rise to another higher level as an actor. He is certainly giving it all he got. And yes, I also hope for great chemistry between him and the female lead, Ivy Chen. ZZ really needs a good compatible partner to bring out the best in him, and also create a on-screen couple that will win the heart of audiences.

Mark is quite a revelation. I have been pretty impressed by him so far in the trailer. Dir Cai has always been good at spotting and discovering new talents. And he spends a lot of time training and coaching them, just like what he did for F4 and also ZZ (esp in Mars). So I have high hopes that Mark's performance will touch and amaze us.

Same for Ivy. Though a newbie, under Dir Cai's hands, she should turn out an excellent portrayal of her character. She is already playing an interesting role - daughter of a triad boss with martial arts expertise. Sounds like a spirited little thing. biggrin.gif And she is gonna throw ZZ to the ground in their very first meeting, then promptly fall in love with him! That should make an interesting love story. biggrin.gif

Can't wait for B&W to air so we can have some delicious discussion going on here. But still no concrite news on the airdate yet........

sytwo



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post Oct 5 2008 8 43 PM
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i totally can't wait for this drama! Vic is soooo hott! I love his character in this drama. I like it that now he has diverse roles. When is this airing?
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post Oct 10 2008 1 26 AM
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Message from the Producer(Yu Xiao Hui) of Black and White (9/10) :

http://www.wretch.cc/blog/prajnaworks/14823144
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Black and White's first preview from Black and White's blog(10/10) :

video of the preview : http://www.wretch.cc/blog/prajnaworks/14823457
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post Oct 10 2008 6 18 PM
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Here's the youtube and download link for the new B&W trailer. Thanks to SIEWLENG for posting this at the ZZ thread.


BnW Part 2 Trailer Preview


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwK9q0ysDhM
credit thanx to simplelife1018@youtube.com
credit thanx to orangevic@pantip.com for the youtube link...



Download file link:-


http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?z31dilou0zz
(uploaded by siewleng)


After watching the B&W, I have only one word -SPEECHLESS. It's way beyond my expectation. Definitely a breakthrough drama that will create history in Taiwan and Asia. Congrats to Dir Cai and ZZ, Mark and rest of the cast and crew.

ZZ's performance has again achieve another breakthrough. He displayed so many different appearances, emotions and multi-personalities as Ruffian. And Mark, the newcomer, is also very good. He looks very heroic. biggrin.gif Same for Ivy, you can see her character coming through strongly. And wow, Kingone!! He looked amazing as the psycho baddie. Congrats to Jie Kai and Janine too for shining in their roles.

And to Director Cai - you've done it!! You've reached for your dreams and you are about to reach the finish line. Jiayou !!


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post Oct 10 2008 7 01 PM
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Does anyone know when this drama air?
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post Oct 11 2008 7 46 PM
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I'm really impressed... Really...
Up until now most taiwanese dramas I've seen were romantic comedies but this trailer looks just great.
Both male leads are pretty handsome, there'll be some romance in the background, amazing special effects - I'm speechless just like sytwo.

Kingone is also taking part in this drama, right? I think that was him in this trailer.
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yea i saw kingone in this drama too! but he plays the bad guy! its good to see him playing an opposite role though
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post Oct 12 2008 6 35 AM
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Well.. I got attracted to this drama after looking at the trailer!
I was really really really(I said it 3 times) impressed by the drama and how they film it. It definitely took them a lot of effort and time and... It is really impressive! I was shocked at the actor's acting like the pervertic way kingone laughs. It gave me a deejavu feeling....
I saw alot of big shots here! This is sooo gonna be a HIT!
I hope that this drama can air soon! It finished already right?

This is filmed like a movie! And I really think that this drama is perfect, it has everything. I was saying that some dramas claim to be professional and perhaps truly professional with good actors, crew, cast, director and all but it may not be nice. Sometimes, nice dramas aren't professional. But I think this will be a good which will be both nice and professional!
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post Oct 13 2008 3 46 AM
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with all the reviews, i so want to watch this drama.
i'll check the trailers but m sure, i'll like it.
when will this air?
thanks!
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post Oct 13 2008 4 42 PM
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Hi all who asked when B&W will air. According to the trailer, it says Summer 2009 (that's around Mar-May?). But exactly which date or month is yet to be confirmed.

Mafalda
Yup, Kingone is in this drama too, as the psycho baddie (he was awesome!)

Rainbowie
Agree with you, this drama looks like a movie. And I also think that it will be both nice to watch and has high quality production. Nope, there is still more shooting to be done (20 days) which will happen after ZZ returns from his F4 Japan concert.


Here's a news article that appeared after the trailer was launched.

Link to article in AF news : http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?s...=0#entry5525838

Zaizai Black & White Trailer UDN news (12 Oct 2008, Taiwan)
Translated by nkd @ vicbarbie.com/ sytwo @ Asianfanatics.net





Full Trailer: http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=qwK9q0ysDhM

The day before yesterday on Oct 10th, in the Black & White official website (http://www.wretch.cc/blog/prajnaworks/), Director Cai launched a 8-minute trailer for the first time. In the trailer, Zai Zai was fighting in the hail of bullets and seen risking his safety for the performance. This trailer has attracted more than 40,000 viewers in the prajnaworks website. At the beginning before the drama start shooting. Janine Chang and Ivy Chen was fighting for lead actress role, but finally Janine took up the 2nd lead actress position. In the trailer, Janine appeared on screen before Ivy does. As Director Cai and Janine has a relationship of teacher-student, this may be counted as giving face to Janine.
(sytwo: see notation below)

When asked, Producer Yu Xiao Hui (Dir Cai’s wife) said that Janine is the senior and should be given due respect. And that Ivy is a cheerful girl and will not care about such matter. Sequence of appearance starts with ZZ, then Janine, followed by Mark and Ivy.

Janine is now in HK and when asked about this, she said she is touched and appreciates Director Cai and Sis Xiao Hui’s compassion and caring, but feel a little “shy” as Ivy has a lot more scenes compared to her. Before leaving for HK, Janie has already watched the trailer together with the rest of the cast and crew. She felt very moved by the film and said that this drama is very different from “The Hospital”, but Dir Cai always give people a shock whenever he presents his work.

Zai Zai was not nominated in the Golden Bell award this year making many people find the decision "questionable" or "hard to believe". However, Zai Zai's performance in Black&White shows "Freshness" and is an eye-opener. His fighting scenes are intense (打戲激烈 – Da Xi Ji Lie), his dramatic/ gentle scenes are emotional/ passionate (文戲激情 - Wen Xi Ji Qing), and there is rich play (abundantly rich and numerous) in both his voice and facial expressions when he is speaking out his script. In one fragment of the trailer, Zai Zai was held hostage and tried to catch the suspects. In the end, he rushed to the railroad as if the action hero in "Die Hard" making his fans extremely nervous (pulse racing).

There are many veterans in the cast. Their performance only make the drama as the top rated show. Two of the model-like supporting actresses in the drama also gave excellent performances.

But because this drama’s theme deals with gangs/ triads and police force, and besides having gun-fights, it also has many scenes of “guns pointing at head” plus realistic depiction/ visuals of drugs. Although the standard and quality of the film is very high, will the drama pass the general standard (censorship) set by major TV stations? Yu Xiao Hui (producer) “helplessly” said “We will have to wait and see.”


= END =

Extra news :
After Zai Zai completes his F4 Japan concert tour, he will join the cast and work another 20 days to finish B&W.
B&W is scheduled to be on next year.


sytwo :
The segment in the article about Janine Chang fighting with Ivy Chen for lead actress role does not seem right. Ivy Chen took over the lead role from a newbie (Grace) who initially won the role through an open competition but did not perform when camera started rolling. Janine was in fact one of the judges in the final competition, together with ZZ.


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post Oct 14 2008 1 03 AM
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Omg I can't wait to see this series next year! I've been waiting for a new Zaizai drama to air and I'm super excited to see that KingOne is going to be in this too. I can already see the show being excellent! Also, is it me or are the series like dubbed already for us like HK movies. Lol. If that is how each epi is going to be-that will rock!

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post Oct 14 2008 6 15 AM
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I'm alrealy excited to see this.....i think it will be the first for zaizai to be a policeman???and in action ....he's so handsome.....
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post Oct 23 2008 3 48 AM
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i just saw the trailer for this, and gosh..it was impressive.
i can't wait to watch this.
it feels like it's a movie, but it's actually a series.
can't wait to see ZaiZai in another series, with a differenct role from his previous ones.
and i saw KingOne too, i was also impressed by his acting skills..
i'll be waiting for this smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2008 9 15 AM
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SUMMER?! *sniff* wow. they are putting in some serious amount of work into making this drama. not only is it costing a ton, but time-wise, i feel like it's been "in the works" forever. i am really looking forward to watching this too....i want to see how zai zai will do...but i'm also interested in watching the other guy opposite him. it looks like he's going to be an interesting character too.

wow... kingone as a psycho bad guy... that'll be really interesting to watch.

thank you so much for the article translation, sytwo! you're always such a great source of info on zz!!!!!
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HEY! I don't know if you guys have seen or not... You probably have, but I'm just so excited I wanted to come here and post it for you all. We at Intangible FS claimed B&W to sub when it comes out next year!!! I've been wanting to sub this drama since I first heard about it! When the trailer came out I posted it on our forum and almost immediately everyone was excited to sub it!

The drama just looks so awesome! The quailty of the film is amazing for a T-drama. And the acting is unfounded in the T-drama world. Vic was AMAZING! When he was breaking down on Mark's shoulder saying she was gone... tears formed in my eyes! During a trailer! I'm so excited! Summer 2009 can't come fast enough!

I'm waiting on pins and needles for any and all info about B&W! Keep the info coming guys!!!

~Tiffiany~

BTW: Have you guys seen Vic's hair recently? The boy can't keep the same hair style for longer than half a year! It's blue now!!! Like when F4 did that Pepsi add back in the day. smilie.GIF Ah well. When you're on stage things need to be more theatrical.

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This is really making me excited, especially from the preview. It's good to see ZZ showing a different side of him, instead of the old icy-prince image.
The trailer is so intense, it's shot like an action movie. Kingone's psycho image gave me chills, with those "dreamer" drugs. I think Ivy is pretty cute-looking. She got that adorable vibe.
I was actually pretty surprised that there's a trailer for this drama and it's 8min long!!!
I can't wait till next year, summer<33

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^ AH! The best part in the trailer! GAH, a good actor just really turns me on. Vic is SO hot in that scene when he says she's gone. I don't even know what happened, but his acting alone makes me want to cry with him. Vic is such a good actor. I will watch anything Vic is in just because I know his acting is so good, and he chooses his scripts wisely so they will be good no matter what.

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QUOTE (Tiffiany_45 @ Nov 4 2008 10 20 PM) *
^ AH! The best part in the trailer! GAH, a good actor just really turns me on. Vic is SO hot in that scene when he says she's gone. I don't even know what happened, but his acting alone makes me want to cry with him. Vic is such a good actor. I will watch anything Vic is in just because I know his acting is so good, and he chooses his scripts wisely so they will be good no matter what.

~Tiffiany~


Tiffany, I agree with you.
When ZZ chooses the scripts, he not just consider about the rating and image, but more consider the chalenging of acting.
He is such a good actor.

These Great pics of BLACK AND WHITE

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Woah, this pictures are just great.
I have a feeling that this drama will be a hit.
There'll be an action as well as a romance - perfect combination.
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Yeah, those posters were very well done. They all have a very dark feel to them.

That's what I'm already loving about this drama. Everything's so dark! All the characters have something wrong with them, none of them perfect. It's going to edgy, action packed, and the directing is going to make this drama a hit.

It seems like FOREVER until next summer! Harry Potter, Transformers 2, Black & White!!! smile.gif

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It's going to air next summer? It's eternity... I thought that expression "this summer" in the trailer reffered to the period in a drama (I mean that the plot takes place during a summer).
Next summer... I think I'l die from all this waiting...


You know what? Someow the plot reminds me of korean drama Time of dog and wolf. There're cops, something about love and so on. But since I loved time of dog and wolf I'm going to love Black&White even more smile.gif
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BLACK AND WHITE film info :

credit thank :silenceZ & Siewleng@AF

http://showbiz.chinatimes.com/Chinatimes/E...0700250,00.html

If i'm not mistaken,this festival called 'Taipei Film Festival 2008' which was held on the 06 Nov till 8th at the World Trade Centre which attracted more than 100 exhibitors from various overseas film companies trying to get copyrights for various Taiwan drama series...Two of the drama series which expected copyrights price set up to 1 U.S. dollar 30,000 (about 1 million Taiwan dollars) are Zai Zai Chou Yu Min 'Black & White' and Yan Cheng Xu " Starlit"...As stated that the drama expected to be broadcast on public television, and future might broadcast together with Zai Zai 'BnW' which will be rated in the same channel..

'Ruffian Hero' 8min trailers...

Dir Cai Yue Xun film "Ruffian Hero" drama 8min trailers was released or the first time yesterday at the film festival appearance.Cai Yue Xun's previous works such as "Meteor Garden" and "Hospital" has always wanted to attract overseas fans to visit Taiwan for sightseeing indicative of the role of the tourism.Most people in Kaohsiung uses KaoShuing as a shooting destination and focus on local industry,Cai Yue Xun made Kaohsiung change a new look and made this 'Ruffian Hero' drama shoot entirely at KaoShuing...

Chief Executive Officer Zhong Xiuying, said: " "Ruffian hero" will start planning for overseas marketing and public television broadcast in April next year."


BLACK AND WHITE filming

credit thank : ECENTERPRISE@AF

links:

Getting in the Garage
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116042&p=11
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116043&p=12
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116044&p=13
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116045&p=14
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116046&p=15
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116047&p=16

Climbing up the stairs:

http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116048&p=17
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=be53...116049&p=18

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I dnt usually like watching cop style series....but this one just really looks good..... i havent seen the other male lead act before so it's probably part of the interest but Vic just acts so well in it. the previews are really interesting to.
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QUOTE (swt_ladybird @ Nov 17 2008 1 54 PM) *
I dnt usually like watching cop style series....but this one just really looks good..... i havent seen the other male lead act before so it's probably part of the interest but Vic just acts so well in it. the previews are really interesting to.


I think you'll like this drama, coz its different.
Just from the trailer, we can see that this drama really good.


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That Ivy girl (didn't know who she was before this drama) is so INTENSLY beautiful!!! She looks AWESOME holding that gun!

I, too, was worried about it being a "cop drama" but I think this one will be intense enough to hold my attention. I mean the trailer alone took my breath away, so I can't even imagine what the drama in its entirity is going to do to me. If I suddenly stop coming to AF when this drama starts airing, you guys can assume that I've died due to lack of oxygen. wink.gif

There was a news article today over in the news section that breifly discussed B&W. I'll copy the excerpt:

QUOTE (sytwo @ Nov 15 2008 12 42 PM) *
“I am not F4, Zhou Yumin – Idol with Big Transformation”
Special TV report on Wan Quen Yu Le Entertainment Show
“Taiwan’s Special Local product Idol Drama, create Big Stars”

Translated by sytwo @ Asianfanatics.net

7:04 - 7:52 min - Black & White

VO : In 2008, ZZ collaborated for the 3rd time with Director Cai, acting in B&W as a coward and ruffian in outer appearance but internally is actually a righteous cop. This drama cost NTD800,000,000 (800 mil) with a big production and even the press conference was very elaborate.

ZZ (during B&W press con) : …..hope that it will be better, so the guys came in a boat and the ladies rode horses. It was not too bad. I see that the horses are very healthy. (all laughed at ZZ’s cold joke)

Dir Cai : …..(his acting) exceeded my expectation. To a point that it made everyone laughed at the film set, everyone was bent over and could not move because it was just too funny. He frequently come out with something that is really very funny, and he has totally turnaround (transformed) from his previous image. I believe that when B&W comes out, everyone will see a Zhou Yumin that is totally different.

VO : Under the directing and guidance of Golden Horse winner Director Cai, can ZZ full potential be shown and lead to a Golden Horse nomination next year? Everyone is waiting in anticipation.


And here is the link to the vid that was translated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUANcJvjleo

Thanks sytwo!!!

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Wow, I'm dying to see all this kissing scenes. Vic looks so hot!

Actually i'm not worried about it being a cop drama - korean Time of dog and wolf was really breathtaking smile.gif
I think that this drama can turn out to be pretty good.
The preview itself was simply amazing.

And this time some actors got to play different roles - like Kingone, he's going to play some mad man - up until now he was mosly known from roles of good boys like in Devil beside you.
And the guy who recently played Anson in FTLY - it seems that this time he'll get more serious role.
So i'm really anticipating this drama.
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I'm really excited about this drama-have we narrowed it down to when it will be aired next year? I'm hoping it's going to come with subs like the previews released-it's just like a Hk movie!
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I feel like this drama is going to get SO much attention and it's going to be the first of it's kind. the amount of time and money they are spending on it really speaks to how much they believe in this project. i really think it's going to be quality!

honestly, i usually don't like police dramas, but i think this one will be different. whatever the case may be, i know zai zai will be amazing in it as he always is. he's like fine wine.... he keeps getting better as time goes by!

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QUOTE (IloVic @ Nov 8 2008 11 19 AM) *
BLACK AND WHITE film info :

credit thank :silenceZ & Siewleng@AF

http://showbiz.chinatimes.com/Chinatimes/E...0700250,00.html

If i'm not mistaken,this festival called 'Taipei Film Festival 2008' which was held on the 06 Nov till 8th at the World Trade Centre which attracted more than 100 exhibitors from various overseas film companies trying to get copyrights for various Taiwan drama series...Two of the drama series which expected copyrights price set up to 1 U.S. dollar 30,000 (about 1 million Taiwan dollars) are Zai Zai Chou Yu Min 'Black & White' and Yan Cheng Xu " Starlit"...As stated that the drama expected to be broadcast on public television, and future might broadcast together with Zai Zai 'BnW' which will be rated in the same channel..

'Ruffian Hero' 8min trailers...

Dir Cai Yue Xun film "Ruffian Hero" drama 8min trailers was released or the first time yesterday at the film festival appearance.Cai Yue Xun's previous works such as "Meteor Garden" and "Hospital" has always wanted to attract overseas fans to visit Taiwan for sightseeing indicative of the role of the tourism.Most people in Kaohsiung uses KaoShuing as a shooting destination and focus on local industry,Cai Yue Xun made Kaohsiung change a new look and made this 'Ruffian Hero' drama shoot entirely at KaoShuing...

Chief Executive Officer Zhong Xiuying, said: " "Ruffian hero" will start planning for overseas marketing and public television broadcast in April next year."


Hi Ilovic
Thanks for posting this B&W news here. Want to add one more short but significant paragraph in the news article that was left out by siewleng as she was not sure of the translation :

B&W at 2008 Taipei Film Festival – praises for ZZ’s acting

仔仔在《痞》劇的演出讓海內外片商眼睛一亮,他從痞子演到警察,演技更上層樓

"Zaizai’s acting performance in B&W impressed (or lit up the eyes or was a big eye opener) the overseas and local buyers. In his portrayal moving from Ruffian to Cop, his acting skill has risen to higher heights."

It's really encouraging to read media praising ZZ’s acting cuz TW media hardly ever do that (same for other idol actors/ actreses). ZZ must be one of the most underrated actors in Taiwan and I believe that ZZ's performance has been largely ignored there due to his “idol baggage” after MG and being part of F4. This is 2nd time that ZZ's acting in the B&W trailer was praised by TW media (no less) so this makes me anticipate EVEN more his performance in the drama.

Here’s the link to the first newspaper article about B&W trailer and ZZ’s acting in case you missed you earlier (excuse my promotion of ZZ's acting LOL! Can't help it since I am big fan of his talent) :
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=589647


QUOTE (Tiffiany_45 @ Nov 18 2008 1 09 AM) *
That Ivy girl (didn't know who she was before this drama) is so INTENSLY beautiful!!! She looks AWESOME holding that gun!

I, too, was worried about it being a "cop drama" but I think this one will be intense enough to hold my attention. I mean the trailer alone took my breath away, so I can't even imagine what the drama in its entirity is going to do to me. If I suddenly stop coming to AF when this drama starts airing, you guys can assume that I've died due to lack of oxygen. wink.gif

There was a news article today over in the news section that breifly discussed B&W. I'll copy the excerpt:

And here is the link to the vid that was translated:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUANcJvjleo

Thanks sytwo!!!

~Tiffiany~


Tiffiany
You are welcome on the translation and video. Thanks for posting it here cuz I never thot of doing it. biggrin.gif I am the same ie not really a cop drama/ movie type of person. But from the trailer, it already shows deep character development which is the type of dramas that I love. And ZZ's acting there took my breath away. The other actors were very good too incl Ivy Chen, Mark (acting as Hero), Kingone and all the veterans like Paul Chun who plays Ivy's dad, the triad boss. Yes, Ivy is very beautiful and she acts well. Glad that ZZ is finally acting opposite a good/ intense actress after all the newbies in his previous dramas.

LOL! OK, will wait and see if you disappear once this drama starts in April 2009. loool.gif


QUOTE (sukyaki @ Nov 19 2008 4 09 PM) *
I feel like this drama is going to get SO much attention and it's going to be the first of it's kind. the amount of time and money they are spending on it really speaks to how much they believe in this project. i really think it's going to be quality!

honestly, i usually don't like police dramas, but i think this one will be different. whatever the case may be, i know zai zai will be amazing in it as he always is. he's like fine wine.... he keeps getting better as time goes by!


Hi Sukyaki!
We meet again, in another ZZ drama. biggrin.gif B&W is really a breakthrough production for Taiwan. Really hope that Dir Cai's dreams will be fully realized and B&W will break all records. Same like you, I am not a fan of police dramas. But the trailer totally took me off-guard. Never expected it to be so intense. And the emotional parts in the 2nd part of the trailer made me tear up....esp when ZZ was sobbing into Mark. Like your comment about ZZ like fine wine - good analogy !


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QUOTE (Mafalda @ Nov 17 2008 2 45 PM) *
Wow, I'm dying to see all this kissing scenes. Vic looks so hot!

I completely agree! Those kiss/sex scenes are so freakin' intense! I can't wait to watch them~ infatuated.gif Lord knows it's been too long since I've seen a good T-drama sex scene! What was the last? TKA and FtLY? This one looks a lot more rough and passionate so that's going to make it so much better! 1.gif

QUOTE (Mafalda @ Nov 17 2008 2 45 PM) *
And this time some actors got to play different roles - like Kingone, he's going to play some mad man - up until now he was mosly known from roles of good boys like in Devil beside you.
And the guy who recently played Anson in FTLY - it seems that this time he'll get more serious role.
So i'm really anticipating this drama.


I know!!! I'm EXTREMELY excited about Kingone's character in this drama! He looks so freakin fantastic! Another Vic and Kingone have worked in a lot of dramas as well (Mars, Wish to See You Again, and Black & White). I'm really excited about the collab! And nothing can please me more than seeing Anson in a real role. His character in FtLY completely annoyed me, I'm glad he's going to do something serious.


QUOTE (CookieChiu @ Nov 17 2008 9 06 PM) *
I'm really excited about this drama-have we narrowed it down to when it will be aired next year? I'm hoping it's going to come with subs like the previews released-it's just like a Hk movie!


I don't think it will be originally broadcasted with English subs, but when it starts being marketed overseas it will probably come with English subs. It will probably be easy to buy the DVD with subs, but I hope they make them more legible than in the trailer. I could barely read them.

However, so you don't have to wait as long for subs, we at Intangible FS have claimed this drama and will be subbing it as it's released!!!


QUOTE (sukyaki @ Nov 19 2008 2 09 AM) *
I feel like this drama is going to get SO much attention and it's going to be the first of it's kind. the amount of time and money they are spending on it really speaks to how much they believe in this project. i really think it's going to be quality!

honestly, i usually don't like police dramas, but i think this one will be different. whatever the case may be, i know zai zai will be amazing in it as he always is. he's like fine wine.... he keeps getting better as time goes by!


I know! IT's SO exciting to be around now with the start of this change that will start happening in T-dramas after this drama. This drama is really raising the bar for production value in T-dramas and I'm excited to see other dramas try to match it. It's a T-drama revolution! I think Extravagant Challenge, with its huge budget will try to measure up to the scope and quality of this drama. I really hope it does!

I also agree that the fact that they were willing to put so much money and effort into this drama really means that it's a quality project and we most likely won't be disappointed with the finished product! Like I said, I think this drama is going to be revolutionary and will set new standards in the T-drama world! I can't wait!

QUOTE (sytwo @ Nov 19 2008 5 51 AM) *
"Zaizai’s acting performance in B&W impressed (or lit up the eyes or was a big eye opener) the overseas and local buyers. In his portrayal moving from Ruffian to Cop, his acting skill has risen to higher heights."


I'm really excited more people are recognizing Vic's talent. I thought that Vic was already known as one of the best T-drama actors. He's not? Well, I knew after watching Mars that Vic was a quality actor and one to keep an eye on. He's already impressed me several times with his talent in acting, and to know the random chance that it was for him to become Lei in MG and become who he is today, really scares me. If he didn't go with his friend to that audition we might not have the best actor in Taiwan today. It's a scary fact. Fate is so crazy. How thankful I am for it.

You can tell just by the trailer how much Vic has grown as an actor. He is so believable and I literally had tears in my eyes when he breaks down saying she's gone. I mean, a trailer moved me to that extent! Vic is an amazing actor, and if people are just now figuring that out, they're blind, but at least it's better late than never.

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...The other actors were very good too incl Ivy Chen, Mark (acting as Hero), Kingone and all the veterans like Paul Chun who plays Ivy's dad, the triad boss. Yes, Ivy is very beautiful and she acts well. Glad that ZZ is finally acting opposite a good/ intense actress after all the newbies in his previous dramas.


So has Ivy done a lot of dramas before? Or has a lot of experience? I've never seen anything she's in before, but from the trailer and the pics I can tell she's someone to be watched. I'm glad Vic is able to have some really good actors behind him. With a really good cast and director he's really going to shine and overwhelm us with his latent acting ability. We've already seen proof enough of that in the trailer.

~Tiffiany~
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^^i so agree with what you said about Vic.
i seriously think he's..if not the best, then one of the best actors in taiwan.

but anyway, like everyone else, i can't wait til this comes out.
actors are awesome.
the one that stood out the most to me is actually Kingone.
because he looks freakin' awesome in the trailer.
wanna see more of it smile.gif

and wanna thank intangible fs in advance for subbing this. wink.gif
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Here’s a new update on B&W, posted at AF news :

Original article link :
http://udn.com/NEWS/ENTERTAINMENT/ENT7/4622063.shtml
AF news link :
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=604211

Jerry Yan's Starlit to Broadcast Before Ruffian Hero to "Save" Zai Zai
Saturday Nov. 29, 2008
Lian He Bao


Jerry Yan and Zai Zai, who are idol brothers, are for the first time going to be in the same channel together. It was reported that Zai Zai's Ruffian Hero (Black & White) was planned to be broadcasted during the Chinese New Year on PTS (Public Television Service), but as the project is unable to finish on time, so Jerry Yan's Starlit will be broadcasted at that time instead to "save the fire". Then Zai Za's drama will be broadcasted after Starlit. At the same time, it is reported that their names will be submitted for next year's Golden Bell Award Best Actor award.

It has been reported that there has been a a high degree of overseas copyright inquiry for both "Starlit" and "Ruffian Hero". The copyright sales of both dramas have reached about 1 million (about US$30,000) per episode. For now, Starlit will be broadcasted on CCTV in Mainland China, and the initial broadcast copyright in Taiwan was obtained by PTS. It is planned to start the initial broadcast by late January. PTS has decided to apply the nomination of Golden Bell's Best Actor Award for Jerry Yan Cheng Xu. After realizing PTS' plan, although he has never been nominated for Golden Bell Award, Yan Cheng Xu answered in low profile, "I try hard when filming every drama. I don't think about that (award) too much."

Posted by keeyshane at AF news
Translated by kkla@www.nbbbs.com
some editing and added translations by keeyshane


= END =


To add on a little bit to the translation above, the article also said that since Golden Bell Award’s deadline for nomination is for dramas with at least 8 episodes by May 09, PTS channel is slotting B&W for April broadcast, taking over another drama, in order to allow ZZ to qualify for the nomination.


sytwo : I am happy that PTS has made extra efforts to ensure that ZZ’s B&W meets the deadline for Golden Bell Award next year. I believe this means that PTS has high regard for ZZ’s performance in the drama and really wants to ensure that they can apply for his nomination in time. And I am also sure that PTS intends to submit B&W for many other nominations incl Best Director, Best Drama, Best Supporting Actor (Kingone!), Best Special Effects, Best Script, Best Cast and Crew etc etc LOL !! I made a special mention of nomination for Best Crew because in one of ZZ’s interview asking him about his chances of being nominated, he humbly and generously said that “It does not matter whether I am nominated. I hope that the crew will get a nomination."



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I completely agree! Those kiss/sex scenes are so freakin' intense! I can't wait to watch them~ Lord knows it's been too long since I've seen a good T-drama sex scene! What was the last? TKA and FtLY? This one looks a lot more rough and passionate so that's going to make it so much better!


Tiffiany
LOL !! Can’t agree more with you here. Looking forward to some passionate performances from ZZ and Ivy, and also Mark. biggrin.gif

Thanks to Intangible FS for claiming B&W for subs – it’s great that non-mandarin literate audience will have the chance to catch this amazing and groundbreaking TW production.

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I'm really excited more people are recognizing Vic's talent. I thought that Vic was already known as one of the best T-drama actors. He's not? Well, I knew after watching Mars that Vic was a quality actor and one to keep an eye on. He's already impressed me several times with his talent in acting, and to know the random chance that it was for him to become Lei in MG and become who he is today, really scares me. If he didn't go with his friend to that audition we might not have the best actor in Taiwan today. It's a scary fact. Fate is so crazy. How thankful I am for it.

You can tell just by the trailer how much Vic has grown as an actor. He is so believable and I literally had tears in my eyes when he breaks down saying she's gone. I mean, a trailer moved me to that extent! Vic is an amazing actor, and if people are just now figuring that out, they're blind, but at least it's better late than never.


I think Vic is still “battling” with the idol baggage. Many audience, esp Taiwan, only remember him as the super idol with the shuai looks but wooden acting from MG. And since many of his dramas lately are not the type that suits TW’s general taste, ZZ’s acting talent is mostly ignored. I hope B&W will bring ZZ’s amazing talent into TW viewers attention and change their mind about him. Just the 8 min trailer alone has astounded me with Vic’s acting. And yes, I was also in tears in that breakdown scene !


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So has Ivy done a lot of dramas before? Or has a lot of experience? I've never seen anything she's in before, but from the trailer and the pics I can tell she's someone to be watched. I'm glad Vic is able to have some really good actors behind him. With a really good cast and director he's really going to shine and overwhelm us with his latent acting ability. We've already seen proof enough of that in the trailer.


I am not very familiar with Ivy Chen’s works, but I think she is quite new. But from the trailer, I can see that her acting is already pretty well developed and her screen presence is great. Vic acts with such deep emotions and he really needs a good acting partner who can compliment him. I believe that Ivy is able to do that. And Mark has also surprised me with his heartfelt performance from what I have seen so far. And of course, there is the amazing Kingone. Plus Janine, Jie Kai and all the veteran actors/ actresses. This drama is gonna blow our minds away, I can feel it in my bones !


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^^i so agree with what you said about Vic.
i seriously think he's..if not the best, then one of the best actors in taiwan.

but anyway, like everyone else, i can't wait til this comes out.
actors are awesome.
the one that stood out the most to me is actually Kingone.
because he looks freakin' awesome in the trailer.
wanna see more of it


Madam Asian
I also agree, Vic is one fantastic actor. And he has come a long from his amateur debut in MG to deliver such a strong performance in B&W (at least from what we can see in the trailer LOL!).

Kingone also really stood out for me. His performance was nothing short of amazing. I am rooting for him to get a Best Supporting Actor nomination.


Some B&W BTS scenes :





Vic :
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/s...7242008-156.jpg

Vic surrounded by lucky ladies at filmset:
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/s.../1258160178.jpg

Mark, Janine, Ivy :
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/s...7242008-148.jpg

I get chills when I watched Vic's expression in this scene. His eyes were so intense and piercing


B&W ZZ Pix from a Japanese magazine Asian Style
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii204/s...7242008-132.jpg


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