Xiao Xun, Only If You Hate Her Rating Options

[yangel616]

Xiao Xun (HATE HER SO MUCH)

(First if you guys like her please don’t come here coz I goin to talk sh*t bout her alots
if you guys fans like her n bashin @ me go ahead
I sure this wuz I going to hear
“Get life” well lets saying wuz the diffenct between like n hate
u like her n I don’t. ur life is like her n my life is I don’t like her)

@ first I though she was kind ok n kinda good looking but not anymore
She is always is the miss perfect BS
Her character so fake
U guys might don’t see but the scene in BSM in eps 12 or 13 when she sayin to mei mei
She so fake!!!
I like GuiWang n she have to come between them too
And I like Xiao Yu and Mei Mei she is the middle of them too
Gosh why don’t she just stick with those 2 guys in Rolling Love wuz u called they names



This relationship chart happens in BSM pairs I will love BSM even more.
Oh yes William w/ the senior but I don’t have any pix of her in this chart as u could see Xiao Xun face is all f*ck up
Anyway…..

OH GOSH AFTER DOIN THIS I FEEL MUCH BETTER HAHAHA
HATE HER SO MUCH


EDIT by love*Samantha:
Removed offensive comments. [Fyi, there is no AF rule that states that members 'are not allowed' to post in certain threads/forums. In other words, ALL AF members are free to post wherever they would like to post. (In THIS case, members ARE allowed to come in here and defend their idol(s).)]

This post has been edited by ♥ Blue Snowflake: Aug 14 2008 4 26 PM

[iBulu]

I hate. Lol. Sorry to all her fans, but I hate her too. I'd admit she's got more talent than some of the girls in Hey Girl, but honestly, I can't stand her. When she sings, her accent is really really think and it's a bit annoying. HSH is all happy and cute, and she seems sooo fake when she's trying to be cute along with everyone else. It's quite annoying. And she's got the most dramas under her belt. BSM, 18JBJ, Rolling Love, and HTQXZ. In all of them, she's had quite a significant role. Hello? Could you give someone else a chance? I'm tired of seeing you as the lead or whatever.

And I agree! I hate how she always gets in the way of my favorite couples. First it was Xiao Yu in BSM. I love the MeiMei/XiaoYu couple, but no. She had to end up with Xiao Yu. I HATE THE XIAOYU/XIAOXUN COUPLE! They don't look good together at all. Now in HTQXZ, she's in the way of WangZi/YaTou. I'm actually really liking the the WangTou couple, but no. In the end of the series, they won't be together. Why? Xiao Xun! Ew...

[lalacindy007]

anyone around here who dislikes Xiao Xun?
well i do. my reasons are very clear
but some people i think wouldn't agree with me.
well i hate her because she is stealing Wang Zi
away from Gui Gui. well that is my #1 reason.
i have much more but ill post later.

so if there are any Xiao Xun haters!
feel free to post:]

[sorry yangel616
i didn't see your topic there
so i accidently made another one.
im really sorry]

This post has been edited by lalacindy007: Aug 13 2008 12 42 AM

[shellstah__]

Whoa, it's only a drama right? It's not in real life that she is getting in between GuiWang and Xiao Yu & Mei Mei.

Personally, I don't really like her. I always thought she was a bit self-centered, especially in one episode where somebody said that she thinks all the male celebrities that go on the HSHMM show likes her. I don't really find her amazingly super duper good looking, but I wouldn't call her ugly either.

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[DORKSTER__]

First of all let me say I'm a fan of Xiao Xun & the rest of the Mei Mei's ..I'm not here to start anything. I just want to state my opinions on some of the comments you guys made... I know supposedly I'm not suppose to enter, but let me say this in example to why I came here...
Supposedly if someone made a hate thread for Gui Gui [& it seems as if most of you here like Gui Gui including myself] I'm sure we would all rush over there to support Gui Gui right? so I'm just doing the same here for Xiao Xun too ...

I hate. Lol. Sorry to all her fans, but I hate her too. I'd admit she's got more talent than some of the girls in Hey Girl, but honestly, I can't stand her. When she sings, her accent is really really think and it's a bit annoying. HSH is all happy and cute, and she seems sooo fake when she's trying to be cute along with everyone else. It's quite annoying. And she's got the most dramas under her belt. BSM, 18JBJ, Rolling Love, and HTQXZ. In all of them, she's had quite a significant role. Hello? Could you give someone else a chance? I'm tired of seeing you as the lead or whatever.

I agree with the fact that Xiao Xun does get more role than the others when it comes to acting... but she does have the potential to act I mean the girl improves everytime she acts & every character she portrays is very lively the way the director wants it to be so I'm guessing that'swhy she has more opportunities... but the thing about acting cute ? I quite disagree bc when I watch clips of the girls on WAHSH I never see her trying to act cute like most of them do!

And I agree! I hate how she always gets in the way of my favorite couples. First it was Xiao Yu in BSM. I love the MeiMei/XiaoYu couple, but no. She had to end up with Xiao Yu. I HATE THE XIAOYU/XIAOXUN COUPLE! They don't look good together at all. Now in HTQXZ, she's in the way of WangZi/YaTou. I'm actually really liking the the WangTou couple, but no. In the end of the series, they won't be together. Why? Xiao Xun! Ew...

Also disagree bc it's not her fault she can't control who she'll end up with bc that's how the script or story line's suppose to go so you can't blame her for ending up the Xiao Yu or Wang Zi! & in BSM she wasn't the one who liked Xiao Yu to begin with anyways he was the one chasing after her every single time so basically she didn't get in the way of Mei Mei or Xiao Yu.. Xiao Yu was the one who chose to be with her instead of Mei Mei ... so you can't say she was trying to get in the way of their relationship bc the way I saw it they didn't have one to begin with it was Mei Mei who only liked him & plus Xiao Yu himself did choose Mei Mei over Xiao Xun when they were being asked so I'm guessing if he could choose either one to be his female lead it would be Mei Mei not Xiao Xun.. okay well hopefully I'm not sounding too pushy like I want to win or something but like I said these are just my personal thoughts we all have our own thinking.. I don't mind if you don't like Xiao Xun .. bc not everyone's gonna like the same person right? I'm not trying to start anything so please don't take this personally, alright?

anyone around here who dislikes Xiao Xun?
well i do. my reasons are very clear
but some people i think wouldn't agree with me.
well i hate her because she is stealing Wang Zi
away from Gui Gui. well that is my #1 reason.
i have much more but ill post later.

so if there are any Xiao Xun haters!
feel free to post:]

[sorry yangel616
i didn't see your topic there
so i accidently made another one.
im really sorry]

Umm I'm going to say this again I'm not trying to start problems so don't mind me quoting you just expressing my thoughts...
# 1 thing: I disagree most with is that statement "she is stealing Wang Zi
away from Gui Gui." I don't want to get all rude but that is really too exaggerating don't you think? Seriously it would be too much if I had said Gui Gui is stealing Arron away from Rainie, Hebe, or other female celebs that he has worked with right? & so same goes for Xiao Xun she's just acting with them, there's a difference.. & you're only targeting Xiao Xun. Ya Tou in here acts as his "GirlFriend" so wouldn't the same go for her too since there are rumors sparking about them two being more than just friends ?.. of course Xiao Xun gets involve with their relationship, but that's how the story line goes ..

What I'm just trying to say is in your eyes it may seem like Xiao Xun is always getting in the way of everyone's "relationship" but it's not even for real & I highly doubt that Xiao Xun would go around Gui Gui's back to be with Wang Zi since they seem pretty close to each other... No Matter how much you all dislike her I just hope that you guys can phrase your words in a better way instead of bad mouthing her like she did everything on purpose; she's very aware that fans dislike her for working with Wang Zi so I'm pretty sure if she ever stopped by here it would be more hurtful to her & Keep in mind that Gui Gui was once in this situation too so I know how all of you should feel like since we all idolise Gui Gui.. Xiao Xun is definitely not the best person on earth, but she's definitely not the worst person on earth either...

This post has been edited by love*Samantha: Aug 13 2008 11 22 PM

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[yangel616]

I understand you but they're celebrity we don't know them personally so we only judge them how they act in screen so I dislike how she act on screen even behind the scene doesn't count cause the camera is still on.
And you like her cause how you see her on screen but how I see her is difference from you. Yeah true she could act but how do we know the other can too when she always get the chance and not them.

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But don't you think is a bit rude for you to say that what I post is "a thread full of crap"? What is the difference just cause you have a positive thought about her make your opinion not crap and my is? So are you saying that you never dislike any celebrity before? Yeah true I wouldn't like it either if someone post a critic thread about my idol but I wouldn't diss their opinion like that since afterall it is their opinion they could choose to hate or like anyone they want to. First of all I wouldn't click on it since is for anti fans only you don't see me going to Xiao Xun's love thread and saying that the person who started a thread full of crap. Is there a law stated that we fan have to like every single celebrities in this world? If there is then please show it to me I might change my mind on her.
One more thing if you can't take an anti-fan opinion about your idol then don't come to this thread then. Yeah we're rude people for started "a thread full of crap" about your idol but don't you think you're also rude too for coming here and disrespect our opinion like this.

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[Asiul_]

oh xiao xun, da gal from RL.
ummmm, i dun really hate her but i heard from other places dat she is very flirty.
and i also heard shes a complete b*tch and fake and all dat.
but hate to admit dat her acting in RL wasnt dat bad.

i hvt got da chance to know her much but i dun think she is dat good and generally, she is not a favourite in HSHMM.

so i am neutral

[BubbLy_lInny]

Well i think Xiao Xun is alrite. I dont totally hate her but when i saw her and wang zi together in HTQXZ i got really pissed.
1. She is like stealing wang zi from guigui. gosh who does she think she is. stealing him and ruiing a perfectly cute couple. totally absurd
2. She has no rights what so ever to touch wang zi and look like if they are the most cutest couple in the world.

3. She is like so old and tries to couple up with wang zi who isnt even 20 yet. They are liek sister and bro more like gf/bf relationship.
4. I think she is pretty flirty and stuff. Bad habit for a girl
5. HSHMM or Hei Girl is like an all CUTE girl group and she doesnt even look cute and she is part of it!
So Xiao Xun get your dirty hands off wang zi.

[DORKSTER__]

I understand you but they're celebrity we don't know them personally so we only judge them how they act in screen so I dislike how she act on screen even behind the scene doesn't count cause the camera is still on.
And you like her cause how you see her on screen but how I see her is difference from you. Yeah true she could act but how do we know the other can too when she always get the chance and not them.
But don't you think is a bit rude for you to say that what I post is "a thread full of crap"? Then all those things you say about her is also full of crap too cause you post all those crap of how great she is I post all these crap of how worst she. What is the difference just cause you have a positive thought about her make your opinion not crap and my is? So are you saying that you never dislike any celebrity before? Yeah true I wouldn't like it either if someone post a critic thread about my idol but I wouldn't diss their opinion like that since afterall it is their opinion they could choose to hate or like anyone they want to. First of all I wouldn't click on it since is for anti fans only you don't see me going to Xiao Xun's love thread and saying that the person who started a thread full of crap. Is there a law stated that we fan have to like every single celebrities in this world? If there is then please show it to me I might change my mind on her.
One more thing if you can't take an anti-fan opinion about your idol then don't come to this thread then. Yeah we're rude people for started "a thread full of crap" about your idol but don't you think you're also rude too for coming here and disrespect our opinion like this.

Well first of all I was never rude to any of you because I never came in here saying that she was perfect okay? & I never tried to persuade anyone into liking her I specifically said that if you guys don't like her than that's fine bc we all like different ppl & things.. & I never said your opinions were crap what I said was "I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want someone to create a thread full of crap about your Idol too !" & that doesn't have anything to do with anyone's opinion I was just referring to the fact that we all don't know her but there are ppl disliking her for the way they see her... so you tell me if I'm dissing anyone here for their opinions ? bc I know I'm not, I'm just expressing my thoughts on what you guys think & just agreeing/disagreeing so how can I be dissing anyone? Like you said of course we don't know them we can only judge them by how we see them & we both see different things .. but don't put words in my mouth saying I said she's all perfect or such as there is a law to like someone if you didn't read my post carefully & just assumed that I want everyone to love Xiao Xun then don't get mad at me bc I didn't get mad at all for you sprouting such things either .. so if you want to say my opinion is crap too then okay but I never said yours was that's you saying it not me! In addition I NEVER SAID ANYONE IN HERE IS RUDE FOR DISLIKING XIAO XUN I admit, I may have sounded a little rude but I was never rude to anyone especially towards their opinion.. it seems like you're only getting pissed bc my opinions are different from yours... Right now you seem to be the one getting rude telling me I can't take a single criticism about Xiao Xun & dissing ppl about their opinions..You are only judging me by my thoughts you don't even take in what I say you're getting mad bc I'm trying to back up my opinions with examples & just assumming I'm saying she's the best..seems like you are the same too, you are dissing my thoughts & opinion seems like you really want me to hate her bc you can't take my positive thoughts either...I didn't even say I never disliked anyone before you must think I'm really nice to be saying that!

If you really want me to dislike her than sure I'll admit some of her Flaws:
1. Yeah she's too flirty
2. Yeah she's bad at acting cute like the other Mei Mei's
3. her singing isn't the best really shaky
4. sometimes she comes off as too b*tchy


Just let me say I don't want you to hold a grudge on me bc of our differences I'm sure we'll meet at other forums too.. I'm not mad at what you think or what you like; I'm not here to try & persuade ppl to think of her as an angel, you'll never change my thoughts & I'll not change yours bc that's just the way things are going to be... I may end up hating her in the future & you may end up liking her or maybe things well just never be so our opinions are really contradicting I don't want to put fire out with fire.. We both can believe what we want to, only Xiao Xun can judge her self for the better! We only see what we see we, hear what we hear but we don't know the truth so I'm going to leave it like this You dislike her & I'm neutral...

[iBulu]

I agree with the fact that Xiao Xun does get more role than the others when it comes to acting... but she does have the potential to act I mean the girl improves everytime she acts & every character she portrays is very lively the way the director wants it to be so I'm guessing that'swhy she has more opportunities... but the thing about acting cute ? I quite disagree bc when I watch clips of the girls on WAHSH I never see her trying to act cute like most of them do!

Also disagree bc it's not her fault she can't control who she'll end up with bc that's how the script or story line's suppose to go so you can't blame her for ending up the Xiao Yu or Wang Zi! & in BSM she wasn't the one who liked Xiao Yu to begin with anyways he was the one chasing after her every single time so basically she didn't get in the way of Mei Mei or Xiao Yu.. Xiao Yu was the one who chose to be with her instead of Mei Mei ... so you can't say she was trying to get in the way of their relationship bc the way I saw it they didn't have one to begin with it was Mei Mei who only liked him & plus Xiao Yu himself did choose Mei Mei over Xiao Xun when they were being asked so I'm guessing if he could choose either one to be his female lead it would be Mei Mei not Xiao Xun.. okay well hopefully I'm not sounding too pushy like I want to win or something but like I said these are just my personal thoughts we all have our own thinking.. I don't mind if you don't like Xiao Xun .. bc not everyone's gonna like the same person right? I'm not trying to start anything so please don't take this personally, alright?

I get your point on why she gets more leading roles than the other girls. When you get more roles, your acting does improve. But she keeps getting the roles so of course she's going to improve. She just seems to get more roles than anyone else which doesn't allow the others to grow and just allows her to shine on her own. Yes, some of it isn't her fault, but I'd just like to see someone else for a change... And as for the being cute thing, I guess she's not actually trying to be cute or anything. Some of the other girls on HSH I guess are just naturally cute. But I just feel that when she's with the other members of Hey Girl, she doesn't fit in very well. Everyone else is being all hyper, bubbly, and cute. Everytime I see her, she's just standing there, smiling. There's nothing wrong with that, everytime she's laughing or 'trying' to be like the other girls, it doesn't work for me...

For the pairings in the drama, true, she doesn't really have control over who ends up with who. You can't really blame her for that. But when you watch dramas, of course you're going to get sucked into it and feel for the characters. You're going to hate certain characters and like certain characters. In BSM and HTQXZ, it seems that Xiao Xun is always playing the character that is involved in a triangle relationship, and in the end, she'll always win the relationship with the guy. Repeating, this may not be her fault, but couldn't she get a different role? Couldn't she instead not end up with anyone?

[DORKSTER__]

I get your point on why she gets more leading roles than the other girls. When you get more roles, your acting does improve. But she keeps getting the roles so of course she's going to improve. She just seems to get more roles than anyone else which doesn't allow the others to grow and just allows her to shine on her own. Yes, some of it isn't her fault, but I'd just like to see someone else for a change... And as for the being cute thing, I guess she's not actually trying to be cute or anything. Some of the other girls on HSH I guess are just naturally cute. But I just feel that when she's with the other members of Hey Girl, she doesn't fit in very well. Everyone else is being all hyper, bubbly, and cute. Everytime I see her, she's just standing there, smiling. There's nothing wrong with that, everytime she's laughing or 'trying' to be like the other girls, it doesn't work for me...

Yeah I agree, others should get more parts too but I don't exactly know how everything is decided maybe Andy is the one who chooses who to be in what not sure? but we can't really say that she's the one hogging all the roles you know? & yes her along with the other mei mei's seems like she just doesn't fit in & so it seems awkward for her, but then HSH wouldn't be the same with out her anyways or maybe ?

For the pairings in the drama, true, she doesn't really have control over who ends up with who. You can't really blame her for that. But when you watch dramas, of course you're going to get sucked into it and feel for the characters. You're going to hate certain characters and like certain characters. In BSM and HTQXZ, it seems that Xiao Xun is always playing the character that is involved in a triangle relationship, and in the end, she'll always win the relationship with the guy. Repeating, this may not be her fault, but couldn't she get a different role? Couldn't she instead not end up with anyone?

Again I agree you would feel bad for the character for example like Mei Mei or Ya Tou. Of course in a movie they're going to make sure that there's a certain character you like & dislike so there's definitely nothing wrong with that.. she does get involve in too many love triangles & would be nice to see her not end up with anyone, but in RL she didn't end up with anyone even though her relationship in there wasn't much of a love triangle & she wasn't really the leading lady or anything with much onscreen time everytime you see her it would always be yelling at San Chan & flirting with Jiro or Danson...

thanks for being understanding & gentle towards your words.. hopefully I didn't cause you to get angry or anything, that wasn't any of my intentions ! Though it may seem to sound like it, but honestly that's not what I'm here for bc I respect everyone's decision or opinion so yeah..

[iBulu]

DORKSTER - I know. It's fine stating your opinion. I respect it, but of course, people have different opinions. You do have good points backing yourself up. There are always pros and cons in arguements and stuff...

I definitely don't think Xiao Xun's the worst Hey Girl member. There are members whom I don't understand how they got in (whether I like them or not). Xiao Xun DOES have some kind of talent, but it always feels like she wants to go solo or something. Since she already has two dramas under her belt that aren't HSH and BBT collaborations (not counting 18JBJ because only Ah Ben was in it). I was watching a HSH episode where they were talking about the group and Xiao Xun's comment was that somewhere down the road, the group is going to break up. Technically, yes, I guess that's probably going to be true. But honestly? You had to bring that up? In that show? In front of your group members? Seems like she's already planning what she's going to do when the group breaks up... Could you be a little more, cooperative?

[DORKSTER__]

DORKSTER - I know. It's fine stating your opinion. I respect it, but of course, people have different opinions. You do have good points backing yourself up. There are always pros and cons in arguements and stuff...

I definitely don't think Xiao Xun's the worst Hey Girl member. There are members whom I don't understand how they got in (whether I like them or not). Xiao Xun DOES have some kind of talent, but it always feels like she wants to go solo or something. Since she already has two dramas under her belt that aren't HSH and BBT collaborations (not counting 18JBJ because only Ah Ben was in it). I was watching a HSH episode where they were talking about the group and Xiao Xun's comment was that somewhere down the road, the group is going to break up. Technically, yes, I guess that's probably going to be true. But honestly? You had to bring that up? In that show? In front of your group members? Seems like she's already planning what she's going to do when the group breaks up... Could you be a little more, cooperative?

Yes arguments have it's pro's & cons that's why I'm not saying I'm right or wrong bc it's your own individual opinion! & I think it's a bad thing for XX to say that bc Hey Girl is just beginning their journey together so it's kinda too early to say they'll break up.. maybe after 3 or 5 more years of being together you can say so but it's still a little too early since they're only beginning..but then maybe she has been thinking about going solo for a while for her to state that... she should've been more positive about it I will say..

[yangel616]

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anyone around here who dislikes Xiao Xun?
well i do. my reasons are very clear
but some people i think wouldn't agree with me.
well i hate her because she is stealing Wang Zi
away from Gui Gui. well that is my #1 reason.
i have much more but ill post later.

so if there are any Xiao Xun haters!
feel free to post:]

[sorry yangel616
i didn't see your topic there
so i accidently made another one.
im really sorry]

Oh is fine
The more thread about her that mean ppl hater more

Well i think Xiao Xun is alrite. I dont totally hate her but when i saw her and wang zi together in HTQXZ i got really pissed.
1. She is like stealing wang zi from guigui. gosh who does she think she is. stealing him and ruiing a perfectly cute couple. totally absurd
2. She has no rights what so ever to touch wang zi and look like if they are the most cutest couple in the world.
http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/11/77/82/83/offici10.jpg
3. She is like so old and tries to couple up with wang zi who isnt even 20 yet. They are liek sister and bro more like gf/bf relationship.
4. I think she is pretty flirty and stuff. Bad habit for a girl
5. HSHMM or Hei Girl is like an all CUTE girl group and she doesnt even look cute and she is part of it!
So Xiao Xun get your dirty hands off wang zi.

She look way to old for her age
She look like she in 25 or 26
I was shock she was that young
Oh well the more you look older the more you become older
I know i rude but hey i started this thread and i even say so i will talk sh*t bout her all i want

This post has been edited by love*Samantha: Aug 14 2008 1 25 AM

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[CHOCOBABY♥]

first I though she was kind ok n kinda good looking but not anymore
She is always is the miss perfect BS
Her character so fake
U guys might don’t see but the scene in BSM in eps 12 or 13 when she sayin to mei mei
She so fake!!!
I like GuiWang n she have to come between them too
And I like Xiao Yu and Mei Mei she is the middle of them too

too bad we are Xiao Xun fans and we are stepping in
and the reasons you are hating on Xiao Xun is making me laugh
all the reason you are hating on Xiao Xun is because of the script of BSM
than I think you should open a thread of BSM script writers
how you dont like the BSM script, is not like Xiao Xun requested
to break Mei Mei and Xiao Yu realtionship up IN THE DRAMA
Mei Mei and Xiao Yu are not even a pair, it was always Xiao Yu
crushing Xiao Xun....and Wang Zi and Gui Gui, in the drama
Xiao Xun always said she doesnt like WangZi, they are just good friends
: P.... and you meant Jiro and Danson, I mean Xiao Xun, Wang Zi,
Gui Gui, Mei Mei, Xiao Yu AND THEY ARE ALLL JUST FRIENDS!!!
and hey you like Xiao Yu and Mei Mei together, but people
might like Xiao Yu and Xiao Xun together and thinking Mei Mei
is breaking them up. [even thou I dont think so, I like both haha]

Well i think Xiao Xun is alrite. I dont totally hate her but when i saw her and wang zi together in HTQXZ i got really pissed.
1. She is like stealing wang zi from guigui. gosh who does she think she is. stealing him and ruiing a perfectly cute couple. totally absurd
2. She has no rights what so ever to touch wang zi and look like if they are the most cutest couple in the world.
3. She is like so old and tries to couple up with wang zi who isnt even 20 yet. They are liek sister and bro more like gf/bf relationship.
4. I think she is pretty flirty and stuff. Bad habit for a girl
So Xiao Xun get your dirty hands off wang zi.

your first reason is so............okay like
I mean if you say you dont like WangXun together is fine
really, I respect, but how you said Xiao Xun stole
Wang Zi from Gui Gui, WangZi is not anyone property
plus WangZi is not dating Xiao Xun or Gui Gui
and is just a drama they are all paired up
I mean I am fine if you think they are secretly together,
that fine, I do that too...but if you say Xiao Xun stealing WangZi
from Gui Gui, and if GuiWang is "really" together
no matter what Xiao Xun does to "steal" WangZi
she cant make it if GuiWang are really "loving" each other
but hey we all know they are just drama pairing so ya :]

and Xiao Xun touching Wang Zi is a need of script...
so ya, these are not her problems...and she has no right to touch
WangZi? I think WangZi has no right to touch Xiao Xun more
XX is the girl, WZ is the guy...? people would say WZ eats
XX tofu more...and hey you know WangZi said he doesnt mind
sister and brothers love...so if Xiao Xun is really 5 or 10 years old
older than WangZi, it doesnt matter, and you say Xiao Xun doesnt look
like her age, WangZi doesnt either really...and they are a different
type of cute that XX take cares of WZ, and there is no problem
of Xiao Xun being flirty, it is just a different way of her
expressing her feeling

and the reasons you are hating on her is because on how she
pairs up with guys you like, why dont you hate her on her
like her talent or acting...your reasons are so like..



I know you guys will hate this, but hey :]
I know you guys cant wait for this scene haha~

[BubbLy_lInny]

ChocoJiro:

Fine i agree with what you said. I can accept your answers but it still doesnt make me feel happy or become a XX fan. Besides who said that you have to hate an actor or singer because they are paried up with another guy?
Anyways, I have to commend her on her fine acting skills but her singing isnt what i like as well. If singing isnt her thing then why did she join the music company? Is it luck or her "kawaiiness"? The music company might accept her in the company but a true star have to shine in both singing and acting to becone a good celeb. But to me her acting is ok, but not her singing, making her not worth standing where she is now.

If really it when she touches WZ but if its jst a photoshoot, then tthey shouldnt be touching each other then. Maybe its her way of flirting with other ppl to express her feelings, but so what. Girl her their own schemes. Girls dont jst randomly go and flirt with others , its jst not right for a girl to do that. She jst doesnt have the ettiquette and manners of her that girl should have. Some girls these days do 'flirt' with other girls, but she is a celeb, doesnt she need to watch her actions and words more than ordinary people who arent celebs?

Although you might have a way to back up for XX but hating someone, there isnt a need for too many questions or answers. Hating someone is jst hating someone. Everyone is different and everyone has their own feelings towards their own topic and they all have their own way of thinking. You cant jst make them think the way you think or the way I think. Everyone is different so their opinions will also be different. In my opinion i hate XX, but i think there isnt a need for too many reasons why i hate her. I can hate her all my life because of her touching WZ or anything, its jst the way i think. I dont think anyone can change my thoughts except for me!

IBulu

I have to agree with the point you made about XX not fitting in with HSH. Everyone of them, well i guess most of them are cute , which is what their band is all about i guesss cuz they are like always acting cute. But as for XX she doesnt have the potential to be cute and she doesnt fit in with them. Everyone in the group adapts well to the theme of 'cute' but XX jst doesnt seem right to be apart of that group. It doesnt look and feel right when she is like the one that doesnt fit in with the group.

Yangel616

Although she doesnt look old for her age, it still doesnt look and feel right when she is paired up with another guy who is heaps younger than her. I think the pairing in HTQXZ, if she paired up with WZ, needs to change. I dont want to see someone who is paired up with someone who is heaps older or younger. If they look cute together then i dont really mind, but they jst dont work out.

This post has been edited by BubbLy_lInny: Aug 14 2008 7 51 AM

[Asiul_]

wow! such longgg posts i cant even bother to read.
but i did catch on sumthing there.
the majority dat hate/dislyk her had a very popular reason.
and i would lyk to point it out.
1.) "i hate xiao xun bcoz she stole wang zi from gui gui. and other couples"
well this is my response.
r u talking about in da drama BSM or real life??

if da serie, then i must say, dat is not da right way to act. u shouldnt blame on xiaoxun but da scriptwriters....also, BSM is a fictional story...i mean, why get so serious?

but if u meant real life, then dis is my response...they cant get tgt in real life anyways. bcoz they signed a contract saying they cant date.
and even if they didnt sign a contract, it shouldnt be ur business at all to say who should be a couple with whom. its their business and u shouldnt stick in.
anywayz, if u hvt heard of da signing contract thing. her is a link. its not an article of saying they cant date but a site where sum1 replid dat they signed a contract. plus, in wangzi and gui gui fan vids in youtube. everyone says they signed a contract.....yea, just to tell u im not lying..lol

gui gui wan zi cant get tgt link

[BubbLy_lInny]

Cold Autumn Tears

Although is might not be our business to choose who is the cute couples or who should be with who, but fans do have the right to choose who they think suits their idol the most. Its jst a common thing which fans do. I mean who wouldnt like to see cute couples. Dramas without cute couples wouldnt make fans like us think they are the most cutest and perfect couples in the world. So whether is our business or it isnt XX's fault, its jst the way fans think. No one can jst change someone's thoughts. I respect what you said, but i dont really agree with what you say.

Its kinda of a shame that the contract states that they cannot date. Man like WZ is like still young otherwise he wouldnt be able to get a gf, i dont know when. But i dont mind WZ dating girls, its jst as long as his fans agree that they are good couples and then there shouldnt be trouble. But i guess to avois the juicy reports and rumours, WZ and other ppl arent allowed to date.

[Asiul_]

^ wow, dat reply was quick lol
yea, i respect ur comment too and yes, i do think dat fans hv da right to choose who they lyk paired tgt but just bcoz xiaoxun got chosen to be paired wid wangzi, doesnt make her da bad person. after all, this is a xiaoxun hate thread. and i know i cant change ur thoughts and i never implied dat i wanted to in the first place. but if u r really interested on bashing such a pairing of wangzi and xiaoxun, then i suggest u make a topic such as a xiaoxun & wangzi pairing hate thread. bcoz u dun really seem to hate xiaoxun much, as an individual.and i dun think its fair to bash xiaoxun, da individual.
but da serie u r talking bout wid wangzi and xiaoxun hasnt even aired yet!
how do u know if they hv chemistry tgt yet?
u should still wait and see if they do match at least...

but if u r not willing to even see if dis pairing works out or not....then i respect dat too....bcoz i cant change wat u think...

just my 2 cents..

This post has been edited by Cold Autumn Tears: Aug 14 2008 8 44 AM

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BubbLy_lInny
I never meant to make you feel happier or become a XX fan
I know you hate her and that is fine with me, I hate artists
like Rainie Yang too, so I respect, just that this is a free forum
and I am allowed to discuss freely as long as I dont offend others
and talking about XX singing, than you should hate on the whole
Hei Girl and Bang Bang Tang since they cant sing at all
none of them can sing live really really well, but hey
Xiao Xun is improving a lot and to me I think she has a great voice
compare to others in Hei Girls [I hate Hei Girls beside Xiao Xun and Mei Mei]

and hey obviously Xiao Xun wouldnt touch WangZi like that offscreen
but it was probably the pose others telling them to do
I mean if you see their pictures on WZ or XX blog
Examples :

their face are just really close but they wont touch each other like that
[I hope you didnt see the WangXun moment in BSM ep12, if not you are gonna freak]
and to me I think there is nothing wrong with her "flirtyness"
to be honest I never quite saw it with my own two eyes but even
if she is, I really dont mind at alll

Cold Autumn Tears
wow, what you said of Xiao Xun is really true
thanks for defending Xiao Xun :]

[little_shooting_...]

CHOCOJIROx_: lols!! i soo agree wif u on the part how BBT and hey girl CANT SING!!!
none of them can...but at least BBT sounds a bit more decent the hey girl...
but like wat i always say..thats not enough to make them become an artsist...
being truthful here...all BBT fans and hey girl fans..ask yourself y is it that u like them...theyve got nothing but a face...i mean if one day any of them like got a scar for life and become an ugly retarded person...how many fans will they have? people like lee hom and jay chou will be no biggy...
i know its unfair to compare them to artists like jay and lee hom but they actually have talent...
and no offence to lee hom and jay they really arent hot....they just have talent
and wen i say that i include XX...she really cant sing..its all shaky and not right....
and she definitely is way tooo flirty with guys...and thinks every guy likes her...
oh please...im not being mean but of all the hey girl...she isnt the most attractive..and if she thinks that way then i can say boy shes got alot of confidence...
in BSM wen xiao yu carried her i was thinking...OMgosh...poor guy..looks like hes gonna get squashed by her...she is really big in size and too old for this cute thing...
and wen i say that refer to chocojiros post..the one where she poses with WZ...i mean she looks mature..then stay mature and stop trying to act like a 5 yr old...
as much as i think her acting is great...her 'being cute thing' really isnt working out...
i mean that girl can act....but why wouldnt she be wen she tries to act cute almost every day...shes probably like pro at acting cause she likes to fake being this and that so much...bravo!! bravo!! i feel like sooo dixxy wen i see soo many sides of her...shes like such a pro actor i cant even tell the difference if wat she says and does is true or not..
overall..i dont like her or any of the hey girls...all of them can act..but not sing or host...
like i said before..but who wouldnt be such a pro actor like them wen all they do is act everyday...their life is almost like a show now...is it really them? always the cute smily face...or is there something going on wen the curtains finally closed and the cameraman screams cut...

edit: i went around and bumped into the wangxun thread and kinda worked out y there was a sudden bull rush of peopels here...
i agree wif u guys about how most of us stating the reasons that we hate XX is pathetic...cause thats basically applauding her acting skills are so good to even fool u guys that they r dating "
but hey wat do u mean by wat if XX sees this its hurtful and everything...
theres a whole lot of artists being dissed around here as well...anyway...if she really was a pro actor and if u guys really believed she is one then she would take all this stuff in as constructive critism and change herself before more people come in and join and diss her...
and wat do u mean by gang up on her? if u wanna know wat gang up is...go to threads like rainies...thats like 5000times worse...
people hate a person for a reason and we arent ganing up..just someone spoke on our behalf by posting this thread here so we thought we would voice out our oppinions..
just because shes hated by alot of people and people are consistently coming here to diss her doesnt mean we r ganging up on her...it just happens to be that shes one of those artists that have alot of fans that hate her...
AND XX HATERS!!! PLEASE STOP CRITICIZING HER CAUSE SHE 'TOOK' SOMEONE FROM SOMEONE ELSE OR 'BROKE' A PAIRING!! THATS PATHETIC AND NOT A REASON...ITS ONLY A REASON FOR MORE XX FANS TO COME AND CALL US IDIOTS CAUSE ITS NOT EVEN A REASON!!!! SO STOP IT NOW!!!!

This post has been edited by little_shooting_star: Aug 14 2008 1 22 PM

[iBulu]

I have to agree with the point you made about XX not fitting in with HSH. Everyone of them, well i guess most of them are cute , which is what their band is all about i guesss cuz they are like always acting cute. But as for XX she doesnt have the potential to be cute and she doesnt fit in with them. Everyone in the group adapts well to the theme of 'cute' but XX jst doesnt seem right to be apart of that group. It doesnt look and feel right when she is like the one that doesnt fit in with the group.

I always thought that Tong Tong (when she was still there), Mei Mei, Xiao Jie, Ya Tou, and Gui Gui all were really good friends with each other. In my eyes, they all seem to have a natural cuteness which probably makes their fans. Then I looked at Da Ya, Apple, and Xiao Man as another little group of good friends between the Hey Girl group. Because the girls always say that Xiao Man is always hanging around with Da Ya, and Apple seems to be good friends with Da Ya as well. Then, there's Xiao Xun. I never really see much of her and just in my eyes, she doesn't look as if she belongs to either 'group' of friends. Of course, she's probably friends with all of them, but it doesn't look like a tight bond like the others.

And I know I'm kind of branching off a bit, but recently, the only reason that Xiao Xun's getting a lot more negative comments is because of GuiWang fans. I still don't like Xiao Xun and won't change my mind about her, but I'm just saying to the GuiWang fans, you're a bit too defensive and quick. If you're a GuiWang fan, wouldn't you support both Gui Gui AND Wang Zi and not just the couple together? Both of them are going to grow up and have a lot of dramas under their belt where they are NOT going to be together. Are you going to hate every one of them and not support them by not watching the dramas? That's just being a bad supporter. You shouldn't hate Xiao Xun ONLY because she has a drama with Wang Zi. Yes, I admit that I don't like her partly because I didn't like her character in BSM (I explained this already in my earlier posts). But there are plenty of other points that you can criticize her about. Don't just soley hate her because she and Wang Zi are paired up together. It's not entirely their fault (again, I already explained this earlier).

[DORKSTER__]

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CHOCOJIROx_: lols!! i soo agree wif u on the part how BBT and hey girl CANT SING!!!
none of them can...but at least BBT sounds a bit more decent the hey girl...
but like wat i always say..thats not enough to make them become an artsist...
being truthful here...all BBT fans and hey girl fans..ask yourself y is it that u like them...theyve got nothing but a face...i mean if one day any of them like got a scar for life and become an ugly retarded person...how many fans will they have? people like lee hom and jay chou will be no biggy...
i know its unfair to compare them to artists like jay and lee hom but they actually have talent...
and no offence to lee hom and jay they really arent hot....they just have talent
and wen i say that i include XX...she really cant sing..its all shaky and not right....
and she definitely is way tooo flirty with guys...and thinks every guy likes her...
oh please...im not being mean but of all the hey girl...she isnt the most attractive..and if she thinks that way then i can say boy shes got alot of confidence...
in BSM wen xiao yu carried her i was thinking...OMgosh...poor guy..looks like hes gonna get squashed by her...she is really big in size and too old for this cute thing...
and wen i say that refer to chocojiros post..the one where she poses with WZ...i mean she looks mature..then stay mature and stop trying to act like a 5 yr old...
as much as i think her acting is great...her 'being cute thing' really isnt working out...
i mean that girl can act....but why wouldnt she be wen she tries to act cute almost every day...shes probably like pro at acting cause she likes to fake being this and that so much...bravo!! bravo!! i feel like sooo dixxy wen i see soo many sides of her...shes like such a pro actor i cant even tell the difference if wat she says and does is true or not..
overall..i dont like her or any of the hey girls...all of them can act..but not sing or host...
like i said before..but who wouldnt be such a pro actor like them wen all they do is act everyday...their life is almost like a show now...is it really them? always the cute smily face...or is there something going on wen the curtains finally closed and the cameraman screams cut...

I agree she's not the best singer her voice is really shaky & most of the time she can't hit the high notes or the right ones, I say she'd at least rank 3rd to 5th place of the group...
Most of the ppl here think that HG is suppose to be a "cute group" & you're telling Xiao Xun to act her age ? to be honest Gui Gui doesn't really either you know? I not trying to target her only .. but if HG is all about being cute & XX needs to act her age then those who should really act their age instead of trying to be cute is Da Ya, Apple, & Mei Mei since they're already around 22-25.. Xiao Xun's not even in her 20's yet.. this doesn't only imply to you so don't get mad at me for only quoting you on this ?

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edit: i went around and bumped into the wangxun thread and kinda worked out y there was a sudden bull rush of peopels here...
i agree wif u guys about how most of us stating the reasons that we hate XX is pathetic...cause thats basically applauding her acting skills are so good to even fool u guys that they r dating "
but hey wat do u mean by wat if XX sees this its hurtful and everything...
theres a whole lot of artists being dissed around here as well...anyway...if she really was a pro actor and if u guys really believed she is one then she would take all this stuff in as constructive critism and change herself before more people come in and join and diss her...
and wat do u mean by gang up on her? if u wanna know wat gang up is...go to threads like rainies...thats like 5000times worse...
people hate a person for a reason and we arent ganing up..just someone spoke on our behalf by posting this thread here so we thought we would voice out our oppinions..
just because shes hated by alot of people and people are consistently coming here to diss her doesnt mean we r ganging up on her...it just happens to be that shes one of those artists that have alot of fans that hate her...
AND XX HATERS!!! PLEASE STOP CRITICIZING HER CAUSE SHE 'TOOK' SOMEONE FROM SOMEONE ELSE OR 'BROKE' A PAIRING!! THATS PATHETIC AND NOT A REASON...ITS ONLY A REASON FOR MORE XX FANS TO COME AND CALL US IDIOTS CAUSE ITS NOT EVEN A REASON!!!! SO STOP IT NOW!!!!

True she's not the only artist/celeb getting diss! I know there are tons of others out there.. I agree I know your intentions aren't to gang up on her you being able to express your thoughts is your own freedom & rights, but I guess when it was said over there that's what it seemed like to us.. the fact that Xiao Xun should change herself so ppl don't dislike her more? Umm, just bc others don't like the way she is doesn't mean she has to change bc that's her personality you know ? She doesn't have to change for anyone but herself.. but it does seem that she is being strong & hanging in there no matter how much criticism she gets!! I do give you props for realizing that XX acting with someone is not trying to take some one away, thumbs up to you! =)

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And I know I'm kind of branching off a bit, but recently, the only reason that Xiao Xun's getting a lot more negative comments is because of GuiWang fans. I still don't like Xiao Xun and won't change my mind about her, but I'm just saying to the GuiWang fans, you're a bit too defensive and quick. If you're a GuiWang fan, wouldn't you support both Gui Gui AND Wang Zi and not just the couple together? Both of them are going to grow up and have a lot of dramas under their belt where they are NOT going to be together. Are you going to hate every one of them and not support them by not watching the dramas? That's just being a bad supporter. You shouldn't hate Xiao Xun ONLY because she has a drama with Wang Zi. Yes, I admit that I don't like her partly because I didn't like her character in BSM (I explained this already in my earlier posts). But there are plenty of other points that you can criticize her about. Don't just soley hate her because she and Wang Zi are paired up together. It's not entirely their fault (again, I already explained this earlier).

What you said is very clear, I hope that others will realize that too & not stick that in their mind everytime they're paired up with someone new! GuiWang is my fav. pairing too & agree we as fans should support them as an individual too not just bc they were paired together!

[iBulu]

I agree she's not the best singer her voice is really shaky & most of the time she can't hit the high notes or the right ones, I say she'd at least rank 3rd to 5th place of the group...
Most of the ppl here think that HG is suppose to be a "cute group" & you're telling Xiao Xun to act her age ? to be honest Gui Gui doesn't really either you know? I not trying to target her only .. but if HG is all about being cute & XX needs to act her age then those who should really act their age instead of trying to be cute is Da Ya, Apple, & Mei Mei since they're already around 22-25.. Xiao Xun's not even in her 20's yet.. this doesn't only imply to you so don't get mad at me for only quoting you on this ?

I agree. Out of all the girls in Hey Girl, her singing is OKAY. It's definitely not the best, but definitely not the worst. For my personal taste, I don't quite like her voice. Her accent is too thick for me, and it doesn't naturally fit in when the girls are singing more 'happy' songs. It stands out, in a bad way...

As for acting her age and being cute, I guess that it kind of has to do with who she is really good friends with. Like I explained in my previous post, she doesn't seem to have like a best friend in HSH while other girls have very close friends. Sure, she seems like she is good friends with most of them, but definitely not BEST FRIENDS. I think this can affect her 'cuteness'. I think now, Hey Girl is going to change their style a little, instead of being so cute. But before, when they were cute for their songs, you could tell that Xiao Xun was trying to be like the others (ex. Mei Mei, Xiao Jie, etc...) but it just didn't work out. Maybe she has matured earlier than the other girls, or maybe it's just not her style, I don't know. My point is that, again, she's not very cooperative. She doesn't fit in.

[BubbLy_lInny]

ChocoJiro

I respect what you said and you are trying to defend XX but I still think she doesnt deserve to be where she is right now. I guess you cant blame her for everything. I like XX's acting and stuff and i know she is really improving but to be honest she doesnt belong to Hei Girl. I dont like her singing . But i think BBT are really kool but not better than FRH though, but they are really improving. But XX to me is never going to improve in her singing. You have the right to defend XX and i have the right to offend her. But sometimes she jst gotta pick up on her vocal skills though.
And the only reasons why i dont like her is because of her singing and being with WZ. There isnt really much to talk about. Hate is Hate.

Ibulu

I do hate XX but not jst because she is being with WZ. She isnt really close with anyone, i think in Hei Girl. I also dont like her singing. Although many of her fans or ppl trying to defecd are trying to say , she is improving. Ok i respect that. But still if she doesnt hit the notes and become a true star, it will be pretty late later in life. She wouldnt be all popular for long, i mean all singers and stuff are popular for a few years then they are down. But some are really good like Tank. Sometimes i do hate her being with WZ but i dont really like her becasue of her singing. She doesnt deserve to be in Hei Girl or where she is right now. Maybe her acting can balance it out, as i said before, stars should be good in both acting and singing.
Although WZ, might be always talking and taking pic with XX i still suport him and GG. No doubt about that. Although they migh tnot be able to get together in real life, as long as it is a wishful thinking, anything can happen in this world. Who knows what happens in the future!

Cold Autumn Tears

Everyone or few peoples like me might jst be saying that they dont like XX because of WZ. But i not only hate for for being with XX, but her singing is prety crap as well. Although everyone is like saying she is improving, i dont give for that. Its not like i can tell whos voice is whos in Hei Girl, for some girls i can, but her voice doesnt suit in with their songs. She doesnt have the squeaky and cute voice like other girls. And you might say, artists dont need cute voices, but it doesnt sound right for a member not having the similar voice effect as the other members. Then hei girl wouldnt be like a cute group, which they planned to be.


Little Shooting Stars

I agree with what you said about XX and Hei girl. Its not like i really like them. but at least BBT has more talent than the girls. Each of them have thier own speciality and talent which they can perform. Besides, all of them are young, and they are like improving bit by bit so you cant jst sayd BBT sucks because they have a good looking 'face' to attract their fans.


FOR THE LAST TIME! I NOT ONLY HATE HER FOR BEING WITH wz BUT I BELIEVE HER VOICE ISNT ALL GOOD. SHE CAN SURELY SING, BUT IT DOESNT MAKE IT WORK OUT WHEN SHE IS IN A GROUP WITH ALL 'CUTE' GIRLS AND HER VOICE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT! !

[DORKSTER__]

I agree. Out of all the girls in Hey Girl, her singing is OKAY. It's definitely not the best, but definitely not the worst. For my personal taste, I don't quite like her voice. Her accent is too thick for me, and it doesn't naturally fit in when the girls are singing more 'happy' songs. It stands out, in a bad way...

As for acting her age and being cute, I guess that it kind of has to do with who she is really good friends with. Like I explained in my previous post, she doesn't seem to have like a best friend in HSH while other girls have very close friends. Sure, she seems like she is good friends with most of them, but definitely not BEST FRIENDS. I think this can affect her 'cuteness'. I think now, Hey Girl is going to change their style a little, instead of being so cute. But before, when they were cute for their songs, you could tell that Xiao Xun was trying to be like the others (ex. Mei Mei, Xiao Jie, etc...) but it just didn't work out. Maybe she has matured earlier than the other girls, or maybe it's just not her style, I don't know. My point is that, again, she's not very cooperative. She doesn't fit in.

Well I'm not taiwanese so I can't say anything about her accent though.. but acting cute/her age doesn't really have to do with who her friends are .. We don't really know if she's close with the others or not it's only the way we think when we're observing things right ? & I once watched a clip of WAHSH & Gui Gui too confessed that she felt like XX didn't belong in the group... But then again you're saying she's trying to be cute like the others but isn't cooperating seems like she is the way you're saying it.. I mean if all she does is act cute then she's not really gonna get anywhere in the entertainment world so she doesn't really need to be as cute as the others either you need to have your own personality & stand out too, but yes as a whole group she should try to blend in too.. being cute can get a little annoying at times too!

BubbLy_lInny
I know it's your right to think what you want, but I think it's unfair of you to say XX doesn't deserve to be where she is just bc she can't sing.. but to be honest neither do the other girls I mean I've seen several clips of them singing & some of the other mei mei's voice is so I don't even know the word for it.. worse than XX's so maybe they shouldn't be standing where they are too right? I think it's unfair for us to say that what they worked so hard for they don't deserve bc they all worked extra hard to get where they are so saying that XX doesn't deserve what she earned is unfair to her! She's not the only who can't sing well so maybe you should tell the others to forget their positions too! not trying to be rude to you or attack you, but it's really unfair.

[BubbLy_lInny]

Wow! This topic is like so hot right now. so many people coming in to offend or defend XX. hahas.

Dorkster

Maybe i was being a bit overreating when i said she doesnt deserve to be where she is. But her potential and skills arent that great afterall. She doesnt have the potential to be a good celeb, although she tries really hard but it jst doesnt work out. As i said before, her acting are is really improving, i can see it with every drama she is in, but her vocals are terrible. Hei girl isnt that great so i dont see the reason why they should exist at all. XX can be an actor, but a singer isnt what she should be focusing on. Singing isnt the type fo thing she should be wasting all her time on. She might be improving but not as great. I still think that for a girl like her to be part of a cute group, doesnt really look right. She might look cute, if everyone say so, but as i said before, her singing doesnt fit in with the group. Not like as if i like Hei girl or anyone of them. She jst looks like the odd one out. And dont worry about attacking me or anything. Everyone here is like trying to prove that their statement is correct.


And sorry if i got any of you guys angry, its jst what i think, and to prove that what i think is right, i try to get over things a little. But sometimes, what you believe in is what you think is right, you jst go and pursue it. So yeh.



This post has been edited by BubbLy_lInny: Aug 15 2008 9 11 AM

[little_shooting_...]

i usually dont like to quote people cause then people take it as im targetting them or aiming at that person...theres no point in me explaining who the post is directed at...if u think thats u..wateva...

but wen i said XX cant sing i understand the truth as NO ONE in hey girl CAN sing WELL either...
but wen people say that 'oh...compared to other mei meis she is alot better...' just because they sing bad doesnt mean she should follow the trend and sing as bad as she is...
and i ALWAYS say this...sometimes i feel like making it my siganture....there are some people who CAN IMPROVE their voices and there are people who cant...
how can u improve your voice? change your voice? too bad its not possible..u can only improve wen u have a good voice just not on tune or right notes or pitch isnt right...but u really cant change the sound that comes out..so initially speaking if ure voice doesnt sound right u really cant improve it...its not one of those things where u can get plastic surgery and get rid of..well not now...

and it just happens XX voice really isnt good...its decent but NOT ENOUGH TO BECOME AN ARTIST!! shes working in the wrong area and to avoid getting more critism she should stop embarrassing herself...same with hey girl...i just watched a recent new mv songy thing of theirs...i listened to it once and i thought i had to go to the hospital to get my ears checked...
look....the song was terrible and their voice made it worse
they all had a 'cute' voice but a mature image...
whoever directed the mv should stop embarassing themselves as well...they r a 'cute' girl band...the cute voice and slutty out fit dont go well so u know...get it right..
the dancing was wat i did in my yr 5 concert...o gosh.. wat kind of dance was that...its L A M E!
so just try putting it together...'cute' 'naive' 'innocent' voice + not so 'innocent outfit' doesnt match voice + mature faces= everyone to the hospital.... and yes...that includes XX...her singing wasnt so great either...their dancing was plain dumb...so just stick with the acting u pro actors!!

and i say that they rely on their looks for a reason..agree wif me or not..stay in denial or not its up to you! shes only got a face and really its aint even that pretty...wateva...argue wif me shes average but really ive seen lots of people prettier than her and dont even flirt as much as her or think every guy drools over her...

and i wont take my comment about how she doesnt deserve the spotlight...its true...
i guarantee that there is sum1 out there who is alot better than her and can actually make the taiwanese entertainment industry look good instead of having a whole lot of pretty faces that sound like a scratched cd and the personality of a b*tch..(i didnt direct this at any1..if u think u know who im talking about then wateva..cause theres no point in me explaining)

and all of the stuff most of us have discussed here can be offensive and make some1 go crazy, upset , EMO etc or grow stronger and improve themselves...
wen i say improve...its not 'pleasing' others or people that are criticizing...
who is she pleasing if she 'improved' (if she could) her singing? would it be us? who do u think will be happier IF she one day accomplishes her goal and sings well? would it be u because shes your favourite idol ...or would it be her because of all the hardwork (IF she put any) in to acheieve the goal...she isnt pleasing any1 but herself...right...we might be happy...but is it as much as how she feels...is it as touching and meaningful as she feels?
it all comes to the conlusion on HOW u take in this whole lot of stuff weve been discussing...if u read it through without thought most likely u get angry and upset..put some more thought in reading this...and then flip the table round....so XX ...if she ever comes here..then work it out herself...as a celcebrity i think they should go visiting places like this with critisms rather than fanclubs....to become angry and upset over the comments ot to become stronger overtime and improve...wateva u think...same with fans....wen fans cum here...they should think about y they r supporting this particular artist....is it because of the person they see...or is it because there is something so special that it cant be seen...only understood and felt....

[Asiul_]

Cold Autumn Tears

Everyone or few peoples like me might jst be saying that they dont like XX because of WZ. But i not only hate for for being with XX, but her singing is prety crap as well. Although everyone is like saying she is improving, i dont give for that. Its not like i can tell whos voice is whos in Hei Girl, for some girls i can, but her voice doesnt suit in with their songs. She doesnt have the squeaky and cute voice like other girls. And you might say, artists dont need cute voices, but it doesnt sound right for a member not having the similar voice effect as the other members. Then hei girl wouldnt be like a cute group, which they planned to be.

FOR THE LAST TIME! I NOT ONLY HATE HER FOR BEING WITH wz BUT I BELIEVE HER VOICE ISNT ALL GOOD. SHE CAN SURELY SING, BUT IT DOESNT MAKE IT WORK OUT WHEN SHE IS IN A GROUP WITH ALL 'CUTE' GIRLS AND HER VOICE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT! !

Look, ur not making sense to me, at all
u r saying xx's voice is pretty crap but yet, u say she can surely sing?
just bcoz her voice is not all cutesy style, it doesnt mean she is a bad singer. she is just in a girl group which doesnt suit her, i reckon.
if dis is da case, how does it make her da bad singer?

[BubbLy_lInny]

Little Shooting Stars

Some of your points make me laugh. But they are pretty good points. Especially the one about plastic surgery.

Thats exactly what i was refering to in my other posts. She has to have the potential and skill so become a good singer. The area which she should be focusing on is acting not singing. She is not good at it at all. She doesnt even have the potential to sing. She is like better off sticking with her acting skill and improving them before its a bit to late.

See and hei girl is so bad and crap. I dont see why they are still promoting albums, singing songs and accpeting dramas. They might as well disband for individuals. XX might be ok as she still have her acting career. But all the others are so bad. I dont mind XX acting , because she is good and can get into her role real well, but what i hate is her singing. Its not as if she can get a voice transplant to improve it. Or stay in the recoding room 24/7 to singin and improve. Even if she does, it wouldnt improve as much.

But for people who have the real talents, they can improve their voice instantly. She doesnt shine in that area and wont do any better. So stop wasting so much time on things which you cannot succeed or know that you can do any better.

Cold Autumn Tears

My point is that she can sing but it is really crap. I dont see why she should be singing if her voice is crap. Although she doesnt have that ' cute' voice doesnt make it her a bad singer? What are you talking about. She is like part of a group with all cuties and her voice is like sticking out and it is really bad. She cant even hit the notes and make her lines sound good.

Maybe she is in a crap group pulling down her vocal skill, but so what. She still doesnt have the potential to do any better than what she has right now. She might as well stick with what her singing talent is, the truth is she cant do any better. Even if she is a solo artist, her voice wont pull her fame up any higher anyway.

And if oyu are saying that she is in the wrong band, then where else can she go to improve on her singin and make more fans. If you suggest she to beocome a solo artist, then i think she wont do so well. As i said, no matter what group or solo artist she is, her singing is still going to be crap..

And if you say i am unreasonable at times, then what are your reasons for defending XX? or are you are XX fan? If i am unreasonable then i wouldnt keep posting up my critics. I would probably jst shut up if i didnt have enough reasons for hating her.

This post has been edited by BubbLy_lInny: Aug 15 2008 11 30 AM

[Asiul_]

Cold Autumn Tears

My point is that she can sing but it is really crap. I dont see why she should be singing if her voice is crap. Although she doesnt have that ' cute' voice doesnt make it her a bad singer? What are you talking about. She is like part of a group with all cuties and her voice is like sticking out and it is really bad. She cant even hit the notes and make her lines sound good.

Maybe she is in a crap group pulling down her vocal skill, but so what. She still doesnt have the potential to do any better than what she has right now. She might as well stick with what her singing talent is, the truth is she cant do any better. Even if she is a solo artist, her voice wont pull her fame up any higher anyway.

And if oyu are saying that she is in the wrong band, then where else can she go to improve on her singin and make more fans. If you suggest she to beocome a solo artist, then i think she wont do so well. As i said, no matter what group or solo artist she is, her singing is still going to be crap..

And if you say i am unreasonable at times, then what are your reasons for defending XX? or are you are XX fan? If i am unreasonable then i wouldnt keep posting up my critics. I would probably jst shut up if i didnt have enough reasons for hating her.

then u shouldnt write she can surely sing in da first place if u neva meant dat way!!
ha, ur very interesting.
if u can defend FRH in the other forums and give them chances, why cant u do da same with XX?
wat i am saying is dat her original voice is not actually DAT bad as yous say. but unfortunately she is in a band where they act cute and her voice does not hv a cute feel to it.
but da fact lies, altho XX is not da best singer out there but she definietly not da worst. she is still so young and she can still be counted as new and i think there is loads of time for her to improve.

she doesnt hv to start solo, but she can also start different bands in which their voices could blend tgt.

as ive mentioned soo many times b4, i am not a bloody fan of XX, but i just feel dat ppl are hating her for wrong reasons and dat they arent really giving chances for her to improve, hence, decided to defend her. and even if i was a XX fan, why would it matter?

This post has been edited by Cold Autumn Tears: Aug 15 2008 1 51 PM

[little_shooting_...]

hmm...idk wat u guys were talking about but wen i said XX couldnt sing...i meant her voice literally had no potential...usually u can improve if its like wrong but the sound is new story...
i keep saying over and over again that she does sing well...BUT ITS NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE HER BECOME AN ARTIST!!!
MOST of the time it right tune, right pitch but that isnt important...alot of people can do that as well....but then y isnt everyone a famous star? because there is more to that...its the sound that comes out of your mouth...now that is something not every person is gifted with...
u can work on improving the pitch and tone etc but u cant change wat was given...not now...
and wen people sing well u usually could sense the 'feeling' as well...but all i hear is plain words...nothing more.. its not enough....

and regarding 'ella not singing well' again...wasnt sure wat u guys were thinking but i said XX voice definitely didnt match the 'style' used in hey girl.
right....u dont have to sing all cute and stuff to become popular but do u think it would work out if u had like....lets just say arron yan join dong cheng wei? i would say no...and i cant imagine either...but thats not the point... the point is every group has a style...and obviously XX doesnt 'fit' with hey girls style so it doesnt sound right...

her voice isnt all like the other hey girls voices and shes trying..i can see that...but does a teacher ever give if a student studies 24/7 and earns a D+? no...its not up to her..thats the way things are...she might pity the student but nothing more...(i guess music isnt a shallow topic..its deep and complex...so if u dont know wat im refering to then bleh..)
but by XX trying to sound and 'blend' in..its making it worse...its almost like seeing a tiger meowing...it doesnt look right and certainly doesnt sound right...the roaring might not sound so much cute but at least it sounds better than the meowing...

u know wat...i think it would actually be better if u could send me the link to where ella sings...then i cant make a proper judgement cause now im guessing on y ella would still sound ok which isnt so right...but my guess is ella wasnt trying to like change her voice to all cute..but to make things fair i'll listen to her...

but hey to get to the point...im just saying that who doesnt know the sound of a lion roaring doesnt sound so pleasant to the ear...but a lion trying to meow is simply worse...so link it together and get to the point of wat im trying to say....XX sounds ok..not so good...but still can at least sing...but by 'altering' her voice to a completely different style makes it sounds worse...so im not saying if u dont sound cute and sing wif hey girls u suck..just if your voice doesnt match the style than dont sing...ure making ure voice worser than wat it already is....

[Asiul_]

Hidden Text:

hmm...idk wat u guys were talking about but wen i said XX couldnt sing...i meant her voice literally had no potential...usually u can improve if its like wrong but the sound is new story...
i keep saying over and over again that she does sing well...BUT ITS NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE HER BECOME AN ARTIST!!!
MOST of the time it right tune, right pitch but that isnt important...alot of people can do that as well....but then y isnt everyone a famous star? because there is more to that...its the sound that comes out of your mouth...now that is something not every person is gifted with...
u can work on improving the pitch and tone etc but u cant change wat was given...not now...
and wen people sing well u usually could sense the 'feeling' as well...but all i hear is plain words...nothing more.. its not enough....

and regarding 'ella not singing well' again...wasnt sure wat u guys were thinking but i said XX voice definitely didnt match the 'style' used in hey girl.
right....u dont have to sing all cute and stuff to become popular but do u think it would work out if u had like....lets just say arron yan join dong cheng wei? i would say no...and i cant imagine either...but thats not the point... the point is every group has a style...and obviously XX doesnt 'fit' with hey girls style so it doesnt sound right...

her voice isnt all like the other hey girls voices and shes trying..i can see that...but does a teacher ever give if a student studies 24/7 and earns a D+? no...its not up to her..thats the way things are...she might pity the student but nothing more...(i guess music isnt a shallow topic..its deep and complex...so if u dont know wat im refering to then bleh..)
but by XX trying to sound and 'blend' in..its making it worse...its almost like seeing a tiger meowing...it doesnt look right and certainly doesnt sound right...the roaring might not sound so much cute but at least it sounds better than the meowing...

u know wat...i think it would actually be better if u could send me the link to where ella sings...then i cant make a proper judgement cause now im guessing on y ella would still sound ok which isnt so right...but my guess is ella wasnt trying to like change her voice to all cute..but to make things fair i'll listen to her...

but hey to get to the point...im just saying that who doesnt know the sound of a lion roaring doesnt sound so pleasant to the ear...but a lion trying to meow is simply worse...so link it together and get to the point of wat im trying to say....XX sounds ok..not so good...but still can at least sing...but by 'altering' her voice to a completely different style makes it sounds worse...so im not saying if u dont sound cute and sing wif hey girls u suck..just if your voice doesnt match the style than dont sing...ure making ure voice worser than wat it already is....

omg, im sorri
i kinda confused u on da part of ella, huh?
sorri, i was just being random as in wat if sum1 lyk ella was singing with a bunch of girls lyk HSHMM...but she didnt really sing anything lyk dat.
but just forget about it
just pretend i said nothin, ok?

but yea, i get wat u mean by the voice thing, dun worry..
nice rebuttle
but i was just replying on how dis person could support a different band who isnt dat talented but not really give much chances to dis sorta band..
but i guess, different ppl hv different thoughts

[iBulu]

I do hate XX but not jst because she is being with WZ. She isnt really close with anyone, i think in Hei Girl. I also dont like her singing. Although many of her fans or ppl trying to defecd are trying to say , she is improving. Ok i respect that. But still if she doesnt hit the notes and become a true star, it will be pretty late later in life. She wouldnt be all popular for long, i mean all singers and stuff are popular for a few years then they are down. But some are really good like Tank. Sometimes i do hate her being with WZ but i dont really like her becasue of her singing. She doesnt deserve to be in Hei Girl or where she is right now. Maybe her acting can balance it out, as i said before, stars should be good in both acting and singing.
Although WZ, might be always talking and taking pic with XX i still suport him and GG. No doubt about that. Although they migh tnot be able to get together in real life, as long as it is a wishful thinking, anything can happen in this world. Who knows what happens in the future!

Good to hear it! There are plenty of other reasons to hate Xiao Xun. Not liking the pairings is just one of them...
I guess her acting isn't that bad. But I haven't really watched her in anything else besides BSM and BSC. She had quite a small role in BSM (which is why I still don't understand how she ended up with Xiao Yu) so I guess you can't exactly judge on that. I guess her actings not too bad right now in BSC. And I agree. I really don't like her singing. I'm guessing the only reason they picked her to be in Hey Girl was because of her singing which is tecnically better than most of the girls on the show, but still not very good...

[DORKSTER__]

Okay too many to reply to I'll just state what I have to say then..
Basically just bc you can't hit the right notes or tunes doesn't mean you should just quit singing.. there's nothing saying that just bc your voice is bad that you can't improve.. true maybe your accent may still come out.. but there are plenty out there when they talk they sound totally different from when they sing. Their voice may be all childish like, but when they sing it may sound pretty decent too.. Just bc her voice isn't cute doesn't mean she has to totally quit persuing her dreams of singing ..

When I said she could try blending in with the others as a whole, I didn't refer to her singing I meant her personality or attitude.. I'm not going to tell her to make her voice all kiddish & squeaky which is so hurtful to the ear.. She's a part of Hei Girl so telling her not to sing with the others just bc she doesn't have a cute voice wouldn't be fair to her bc then what's the purpose of her getting selected anyways? Most of the songs they sing aren't really dealing with the cute baby voice so she doesn't have to use the cute voice she can sing regularly.. I think it's probably bc the others have that squeaky, high pitch voice so it's leading others to interpret that it's a cute group! Maybe bc of the way they act too like all kiddish & everything.. ?
her personality may not fit in as well, but it's her choice maybe bc of the way the others act that she doesn't want to get too close so that's why she seems so distant & not best friends w/ the others..I don't know just suggesting.

Some of you keep mentioning that she thinks all the guys that come on the show likes her ? I don't really know.. I have to see a clip or some what to believe for my self.. other than that I don't really think she would be that up front & just say it like she's the best; dont know just my opinion I have to see some proof before I can decide on that statement.

True if she was to go solo then maybe her acting career can balance everything out for her.. maybe she doesn't need to keep on singing, but if that's her dream then she can still try to persue it even if ppl don't like her voice!
You can always try to make the best of yourself.. so there's not really a thing as to where you can't try to improve your self...

[little_shooting_...]

Cold Autumn Tears:
well yeh that comment on ella i kinda got your point but wen i was trying to explain i got myself confused as well cause i didnt know wat u were refering to cause i neva saw that clip and started making all these assumptions and gave up halfway cause i was lost...
i kinda dont get wat u were saying the last part there but meh...its not that imporatant right?

but anyways back to the topic...DORKSTER i hope u werent talking about me...
cause then i think u misunderstood...
"Basically just bc you can't hit the right notes or tunes doesn't mean you should just quit singing.. " before i said u CAN improve if u cant hit the right notes or tunes but u CANT improve if youre voice doesnt sound right cause u cant change it...
but i was listening to the song tian tian quan..the one wif XX all on her own wif ah ben but there definitely something wrong with her singing...even wen she isnt trying to get her voice all squeeky and cute it doesnt sound right...and i asked my sis..shes neutral and i didnt even tell her who sing the song and asked for her oppinion just in case my ears were playing up on me and she said it didnt sound too pleasant either...
just wondering if any1 else heard wat i heard and gets wat im saying wen they listen to her voice...

[559yangsta]

Why are those ulgy pix
doing here
r u try to make yangel616 mad omg
that is really rude
she doesnt like her
n i sure she dont care bout those ugly pix of her with wang zi
and she got the rite to be rude to her here bcoz is her ipoion n she straetd this thread
why is ppl r fighting i dont get XX lovers fans r doing here 4
they do know this a hater thread not a lover thread
will u be mad if XX hater come to XX lover thread n statrd say stuff bout her\i sure u guys will be mad too rite?
U know wuz how many time does these thread hater will always have their lover come n get all butt hurt when they do know that is a hater thread

This post has been edited by Aspire: Aug 16 2008 4 10 PM

Reason for edit: Anyone has a right to enter this thread. Fans are allowed to defend their idol. Respect all members. And dont post rude comments are swear.

[Asiul_]

^ sorri but is kinda hard to understand wat u r rambling on about.
but i get sum parts.
look, da point of the critcs hangout section is for haters to diss about other celebs in which, u r right.

but either it is fans, haters, or ppl who are neutral, they are still allowed to post in these threads. they are allowed to point sumthing out if they think their reasons of hating ppl are pathetic or unreasonable. lyk for example wat im doin. but all they are not allowed to do is to tell how much they love a celeb or create topics relating about loving celebs.
^its in the rules, btw

also, every user dat is defending her here, is not a guy, i am a girl, not a girl so yea, and im not lesso so i dun just support her bcoz of looks wat so eva

PEACE OUT, EVERYONE!

This post has been edited by Cold Autumn Tears: Aug 16 2008 7 46 AM

[DORKSTER__]

but anyways back to the topic...DORKSTER i hope u werent talking about me...
cause then i think u misunderstood...
"Basically just bc you can't hit the right notes or tunes doesn't mean you should just quit singing.. " before i said u CAN improve if u cant hit the right notes or tunes but u CANT improve if youre voice doesnt sound right cause u cant change it...
but i was listening to the song tian tian quan..the one wif XX all on her own wif ah ben but there definitely something wrong with her singing...even wen she isnt trying to get her voice all squeeky and cute it doesnt sound right...and i asked my sis..shes neutral and i didnt even tell her who sing the song and asked for her oppinion just in case my ears were playing up on me and she said it didnt sound too pleasant either...
just wondering if any1 else heard wat i heard and gets wat im saying wen they listen to her voice...

Well that sentence is just me combining all the comments made into one statement so I wouldn't have to explain myself over & over again..
I know that's what you said, but I don't know if I did misunderstand you or maybe it's just due to the fact that I believe that you can change no matter if your voice is horrible ? I also know that you can't change the way your voice sounds, but with more singing lessons you can change the way you bring out your voice you know ? Just put it this way our thinking is different we probably need a music expert to tell us on this one, maybe ?
To me I find her voice pretty decent just that the wrong thing may be her voice is too shaky or in my language she "seev" too much so that's why it sounds like that.. but like I said her voice to me is fine.. I think no matter what, as anti- fans or fans we all want her to improve on her singing..

Here's what I really think, just a personal opinion none of you have to agree with me. I understand most of you hate her for her singing, but I find it unreasonable bc instead of hating her bc her singing isn't up to standard.. shouldn't you just hate her singing instead of say " I hate her bc she can't sing" ? I say it should be more of " I hate her singing" ? Again my opinion, if you really think about it I think that should be more reasonable.. Hating/disliking someone for not being able to sing I find it awkward. Let me just compare her to Chun.. I don't hate him or anything, but he's the best example I can use.. Okay, honestly his acting sucks.. I can't tell whether he's worried, depressed, or angry; his emotions are all one face expression when he's trying to portray his emotions.. but to get to the point, fans don't go around saying " I hate Chun bc he can't act" instead as we normally do say " His acting sucks" right ? so I think it would be more fair if you phrase your sentence that way.. Seriously I don't understand why he gets the most opportunities.. maybe the directors/producers just rely on his look to make big money.. okay off topic but yeah I hope I'm getting some where to you guys on this point.. It's totally fine with me if that's not what you believe, just like I said it's a personal opinion.

[BellaDaniella]

Ummm hello everybody !
ok I'm not here to start nething w/ ne 1
In juss here to state MY opinion on wat I think about all this
Ok imma make this clear 1st of all IM NEUTRAL W/ XX!!
I do admit that she's a lillo flirty & her singing is really bad
[I haven't seen any of her drama so no comment on the acting]

Even tho I'm a die heart GuiWang fan...
I'm fine w/ her starring in this drama w/ WZ
I mean seeing their pictures is really disappointing
but its alrite...& besides WZ didn't take pictures w/ XX only
& all this stuff about
'she stole WZ from GG' & so on
is a lillo ridiculous...I mean WZ doesn't belong to nebody
& she didn't choose to act w/ him...

But my most important reason here is
wen ppl heard that GG & Arron were gunna act tgt in a drama
Arron's fans also started bashing GG (& even till today)
& us GuiWang fans are not as low as them!!
I mean if u think about it...
the more GuiWang fans bash her the more attention she gets
especially from WZ b/c didn't he started deffending her
even b4 they start filming (on his blog)??

On the other hand..
if u guys are here to criticize about her singing/acting/etc
then go head but if ur bashing her b/c of guiwang
then plzzz stop b/c its a lillo pathetic...