Does Ray deserve the Best Actor award with his acting?, Raymond's character and acting in MR Options

[jadedreams27]

Raymond's characer 'ah Ho' is very popular amongst fans, and many people think the Best Actor award is sitting safely in his hands. I myself quite like ah Ho too, he's a great character with charming moments, but is there anything else about his character that stands out?

In my opinion, there really isn't anything special about his character at all other than him being a filial son, good hearted kind guy, a family man. He's just a nice guy. Is 'ah Ho' a memorable character? Possibly because of this personality, there aren't many scenes that show off strong acting either.

What do you think? Is Raymond's acting and character 'Best Actor' material?

[~Akane~]

I definitely see some breakthrough for Ray in MR

e.g

The fooling around scenes as a family. Dressing up as Sa Yee and doing dirty dancing thing with Moses being the background dancers for Jo Bao. He always had the professional, charming roles so this is unexpected and out of his comfort zone since in real life he's pretty serious.

My most favorite scene from him so far is probably the gym scene where he tried to drag Tavia home. I know I'm a fan but seriously, out of all honesty, I think its the best emotional scene for him in MR thus far. They were really into the scene to the point they/us don't notice anyone else around them.

Having said that, I feel that at times, for the first time I've seen Ray, he's a little over exaggerated in his acting. Sometimes when he talks to his siblings it seemed just a little exaggerated. His character, while having a lot of screen time, isn't particularly interesting. Its lovable but not exciting. And as this is a HOG sequel, as a fan I would prefer him winning for a series where he's the sole lead and reason why the series did well.

[shaw_mag]

"Ah Ho" is not a memorable character, so it is not easy for Raymond to compete for best actor award based on this character. Other actors from MR are more "catchy". Luckily for Ray, he has more than one series this year.

[Twinsangelkiki]

um...i'm a ray fan too...out of the young generation actors, i would say that he's like the best followed by Kenneth Ma and such....but Best Actor material? hm, not sure if that'd be too heavy for him lol....there are many better than him like ha yu and wayne but i guess they will always be supporting....and no doubt, ray has the most appeal....and TVB BEST ACTOR is not only about acting but also about popularity....so i would say ray wins it all, esp after actors like bobby, roger, bowie, kevin and mo who have gotten awards already...lol ...in MR, ray acts well as goon gai zai but not sure if it's like a breakthrough...i mean, playing a good character wins a lot of votes but i think many ppl can play the good guy too...but i guess, it's also hard to make this discussion clear cut b/c even if actresses like mai suet and susanna kwan can show off their great acting skills for acting evil characters, it's never been the case that actors or actresses who portray evil characters win anyways...so I guess ray will win Best Actor...

Maybe even like Mo who snatched both Best Actor and Most Favorite Character...Ray might get the 2 awards too.....

I personally think Ray's acting IS Best actor material but his nice guy character Ah Ho isn't quite memorable imo....Dak Dak Dei on the other hand, other than his nice guy attitude, is also silly and goofy and his stubborn/loyal character to make Dai Kai's wishes come true also makes him very memorable....

Rather, ah HO, i thik the part that would make his character memorable is how ray always nag his siblings...LOL...that's definitely ah ho! =D

This post has been edited by Twinsangelkiki: Aug 31 2008 12 22 AM

[foreverleila]

I think Raymond has high chances of winning for the "Best Actor" award for his acting in this series. Yeah, I agree that Raymond's character as Ah Ho wasn't much of a breakthrough, but you can see that Raymond has improved. Plus, his character as Ah Ho was very memorable, always caring for the people he loved like Linda. HIs character's perspective is as long as the people he loved are happy, then he's happy. Hopefully Raymond can win the "Best Actor" award this year.

[wou]

Ray did improve in MR but best actor is not Most Improvement awards. You really has to stand out among other actors. I doubt Ah Ho character will guarantee him the awards but maybe Best Character. I am waiting eagerly for The Four to see Ray display his ability. Since his character is a cripple. I think it will give him more space to show his versatility.

[themissingpiece]

I am a big fan of Raymond but this should NOT be his clincher for Best Actor. The character is too plain & unremarkable for the win. It's just plainly a nice guy who love his family. I prefer some complexity to the role that will get Raymond the award. Ah Ho actually pales in comparision to some of the other roles that he's done before (ASTIP, LWOLAP, HOG). I actually prefer his character in SL which is similar to Ah Ho. And so far, there aren't too many dramatic scenes that focus solely on Raymond, perhaps we get this when we delve deeper into the series. I do think Raymond is unnatural in the "fun" scenes, you get the feeling he's trying too hard to be carefree in those scenes.

But when does TVB care about deserving roles/characters? I certainly didn't think Moses deserved the award for HOG last year either, I rather Moses win it last year for TUCF (where he was great). If Kevin can win for a character as plain as in UTCOL, just give it to Raymond this year then.

[♥ Naive Fox ♥]

Hehe, I'm Fung's fan.

1st of all, in award wise, must be a "good person" role to get the award. The one villain role tat got award recently is Susanna wit best chac award and it's just best chac, not best actress. Ho is a good guy role, so this role has big chance since it's very good.

2nd: in character wise: Look at the role tat get the best actor award recently and we'll see:
- 2003: Roger as Ah Wong
- 2004: Bowie in WAB
- 2005: Roger as Ah Wong again
- 2006: Kevin in UTCOL
- 2007: Moses in HOG
All are good guy. Just Bowie is serious, all the other roles is one type: Good guy, always think of other ppl before think of himself and a bit funny. Bowie's role in WAB always think of other ppl before himself, too.
So the type of best actor award is: Good and think of ppl before himself.
Talk about character wise, Ho is definitely this type.

3rd: In age wise: Ppl noe tat TVB give the award now depends on age :. Old = more experience = award. Check for all TVB's actors now, all the 30+ actors has the award, including: Bowie, Moses, Kevin, Roger, Steven (I only mean TVB's guyz, dun mention on the one who dun sign contract wit TVB such as Bobby, Gallen because they won't never get the award until they sign the contract). All have the award. So if they continuously give award to someone, ppl will think it's unfair. It's Fung's time since he is the dai gor of the young generation. Ah, he has a competition in age wise: Joe Ma. But do U think Joe Ma can get an award this year? Defends on the new series of him wit Charmaine and Liza upcoming.

4th: In acting wise (hehe, this thing is important to fans but not important to TVB): Fung did Ah Ho really bad? In fact no? I think U guyz can agree wit me in this thing. Ah Ho is a bit boring since he is good guy (as I find in every good guy, especially 100% good guy, but good guy is TVB's best actor award favourite type), but Fung portrays a good guy ... as a good guy. This role isn't breakthrough, I even think it's kinda easy for him to do it. Villain roles is always more difficult, but we r talking about the award .

5th: In outstanding wise: Hmm... Tell me which role is more outstanding in term of good guy? Rmb, only good guyz have the best actor award in TVB now.

6th: Other artists: Moses got 2 last year, I doubt TVB will give him again cuz it's TVB's law: No award in 2 continuous year. Ha Yu may get 1 award, Wayne is supporting, he can will supporting award. Joe Ma has chance wit his new series. Kevin dun have any good series now, except LOS is coming and we'll wait to see. Steven only has TCD2, but the rating of it is bad. Bobby, Gallen didn't sign contract wit TVB, so can put them out of any award.

Conclusion: Deserving or not, depends on ur point of view, but watever we say, TVB will give the award to who they think will give them money. They r a company, and money is important to them (most important thing). Lolz, as a fan, I wish Fung would win. And hope tat after winning, TVB will give him more breakthrough roles, villain!!! Yeah~

The end.

[Akazukin]

I think I'm perfectly fine if Raymond wins this award, even though I'm not one of his fans, unless another actor came off and put another more deserving impact than Ray.

I personally think Raymond acted very well in MR, especially in the family scenes. Two of my most memorable scenes from him is when he caught Tavia to drag her back home from the gym and when he confronted Jo Bao asking him whether he thinks their past was unhappy moments. I think the only lacking part of him and a letdown is his scenes with Linda. It's just not making any impact for me, it's like both of them suddenly just become the background sound in my house when it was a scene between them two. Raymond has always been lacking in romance acting department. He just reinforces it more in this series IMO.
Though, given Ah Ho's personality, I think that is very much excusable because he is not the type who would put romance as the priority of his list anyway. Perhaps if they have keen on developing his romance with Tracy instead, on how he struggled with his inner self between his love for the family and his love for Tracy, be a filial son and caring brother vs a good boyfriend, his character would have been more interesting.

Too bad they made his character an overused guardian star for Linda's character. I know they tried to make it sweet, but somehow as of now, it falls flat and only gave Raymond's character a boring trait.

Oh, did I go off-topic? Does Ray deserve the Best actor award with his acting? I think yes. Why? Because he has already brought the best of his character out IMO. His character puts family first and I think Ray has shown this to the core. What other flaws his character has is just due to the flaw of script. Perhaps he should take the responsibility of not playing the romance part well enough, but well that doesn't worry me too much.

[mmai]

We have not seen the whole series yet. It is still up to 22 episodes.

What we have seen so far is the build up of Ah Ho's character by acting as a supporting role for others.

I am looking forward to seeing his solo scenes in MR for him to shine. Just a few of these scenes would make his getting the award more reasonable.

If he is not getting the best actor, I think he will get the best character. As far as overall performance goes, I think he deserves it.

The award is not giving to the best actor, it is giving to the actor that TVB thinks can get the best earnings for TVB. Raymond is really popular not just in Hong Kong but in China and Asia Pacific too.

[DVD_Lover]

Yeah I kind of agree with what you are saying, although Ray is protraying his character really well in MR, but the character isn't outstanding or memorable nor is it a really challenging role, it's just a typical nice guy. But we are still only on ep 22, so hopefully something really memorable will happen to Ray's character later on.

Also, I know all of ray's fans want him to win the best actor award this year, but I think it's really important not to rule out his competitiors. I would say Roger Kwok has an equal if not higher chance of winning this year, Roger's series "D.I.E" is still the highest rated series this year at average 34 pts giving him a big chance for the awards, what's more, Roger's new series "Last One Standing" will air in September right before TVB anniversary, if the series also gets high ratings and Roger is known for being a rating guarantee, then Roger pretty much has the award in the bag. I know Ray has "The Four" coming up in Sept as well, but ancient martial arts dramas usually flop in ratings, e.g. LWOLAP, so if "The Four" flops in ratings, then this will reduce Ray's chances of winning, the award will be going straight to Roger.

[*.marshmalloww]

As much as I love him, for this series? not really...at least not so far. It seems like a really normal type of character, and so far, I don't even see him as the main actor. He looks more supporting to me IMO. I rather he win best actor with another series.
But he most probably will win with those rumours flying around =="

This post has been edited by hebe.x3: Aug 31 2008 7 37 AM

[Just_Asian_Chick]

im a a huge ray fan as well... but i dont think his role in MR deserves the award, it was easy stuff for his level.

[cutebabyangel19]

i agree.. raymond IS best actor material, but his character as a ho definitely doesn't deserve an award... his char. is too 2D... not to mention... its really undeveloped since the cast is so big and the story is so out of focus. however, i seriously thot that his char. alfred should've won him best actor award.. i mean, what other actor can really make the audience pity him when he actually cheated?

[jadedreams27]

Hehe, I'm Fung's fan.

1st of all, in award wise, must be a "good person" role to get the award. The one villain role tat got award recently is Susanna wit best chac award and it's just best chac, not best actress. Ho is a good guy role, so this role has big chance since it's very good.

2nd: in character wise: Look at the role tat get the best actor award recently and we'll see:
- 2003: Roger as Ah Wong
- 2004: Bowie in WAB
- 2005: Roger as Ah Wong again
- 2006: Kevin in UTCOL
- 2007: Moses in HOG
All are good guy. Just Bowie is serious, all the other roles is one type: Good guy, always think of other ppl before think of himself and a bit funny. Bowie's role in WAB always think of other ppl before himself, too.
So the type of best actor award is: Good and think of ppl before himself.
Talk about character wise, Ho is definitely this type.

3rd: In age wise: Ppl noe tat TVB give the award now depends on age :. Old = more experience = award. Check for all TVB's actors now, all the 30+ actors has the award, including: Bowie, Moses, Kevin, Roger, Steven (I only mean TVB's guyz, dun mention on the one who dun sign contract wit TVB such as Bobby, Gallen because they won't never get the award until they sign the contract). All have the award. So if they continuously give award to someone, ppl will think it's unfair. It's Fung's time since he is the dai gor of the young generation. Ah, he has a competition in age wise: Joe Ma. But do U think Joe Ma can get an award this year? Defends on the new series of him wit Charmaine and Liza upcoming.

4th: In acting wise (hehe, this thing is important to fans but not important to TVB): Fung did Ah Ho really bad? In fact no? I think U guyz can agree wit me in this thing. Ah Ho is a bit boring since he is good guy (as I find in every good guy, especially 100% good guy, but good guy is TVB's best actor award favourite type), but Fung portrays a good guy ... as a good guy. This role isn't breakthrough, I even think it's kinda easy for him to do it. Villain roles is always more difficult, but we r talking about the award .

5th: In outstanding wise: Hmm... Tell me which role is more outstanding in term of good guy? Rmb, only good guyz have the best actor award in TVB now.

6th: Other artists: Moses got 2 last year, I doubt TVB will give him again cuz it's TVB's law: No award in 2 continuous year. Ha Yu may get 1 award, Wayne is supporting, he can will supporting award. Joe Ma has chance wit his new series. Kevin dun have any good series now, except LOS is coming and we'll wait to see. Steven only has TCD2, but the rating of it is bad. Bobby, Gallen didn't sign contract wit TVB, so can put them out of any award.

Conclusion: Deserving or not, depends on ur point of view, but watever we say, TVB will give the award to who they think will give them money. They r a company, and money is important to them (most important thing). Lolz, as a fan, I wish Fung would win. And hope tat after winning, TVB will give him more breakthrough roles, villain!!! Yeah~

The end.

Litto Fox, that was an interesting read! Good observation on the best actor part, esp. about how the character thinks of others before himself. In terms of favorite character, Raymond's ah Ho definitely deserves it. As for Raymond's acting, I think he does a decent job, but at times, he kinda looks dull/bored/tired....like in the one scene Moses kneeled in front of him, Raymond's expression was somewhat blank. I don't know, I guess I expected more from Ray since I've seen his past series, and he often brings his character to life. For ah Ho so far... for some reason, it seems to me it's just Ray just simply acting a character out rather than being in his character's shoes.

I think Ray faces tough competition if Wayne's first leading series and Bobby & Sheren's serie shows. Bobby & Sheren's series are always a ratings-guaranteed too. But, I do agree with you. since MR is such a hit, and ah Ho is a hot favorite for the audience, I think TVB would most likely give it to him to push the promotional front since he's young, handsome, and a good singer. And in Ray's case, you can't get much criticism lol. The guy can act, just that ah Ho may not be an extraordinarily role lol

I think I'm perfectly fine if Raymond wins this award, even though I'm not one of his fans, unless another actor came off and put another more deserving impact than Ray.

I personally think Raymond acted very well in MR, especially in the family scenes. Two of my most memorable scenes from him is when he caught Tavia to drag her back home from the gym and when he confronted Jo Bao asking him whether he thinks their past was unhappy moments. I think the only lacking part of him and a letdown is his scenes with Linda. It's just not making any impact for me, it's like both of them suddenly just become the background sound in my house when it was a scene between them two. Raymond has always been lacking in romance acting department. He just reinforces it more in this series IMO.
Though, given Ah Ho's personality, I think that is very much excusable because he is not the type who would put romance as the priority of his list anyway. Perhaps if they have keen on developing his romance with Tracy instead, on how he struggled with his inner self between his love for the family and his love for Tracy, be a filial son and caring brother vs a good boyfriend, his character would have been more interesting.

Too bad they made his character an overused guardian star for Linda's character. I know they tried to make it sweet, but somehow as of now, it falls flat and only gave Raymond's character a boring trait.

Oh, did I go off-topic? Does Ray deserve the Best actor award with his acting? I think yes. Why? Because he has already brought the best of his character out IMO. His character puts family first and I think Ray has shown this to the core. What other flaws his character has is just due to the flaw of script. Perhaps he should take the responsibility of not playing the romance part well enough, but well that doesn't worry me too much.

I am a Ray fan, and I'll be happy if he wins for ah Ho since if he misses this opportunity, who knows when he will be able to win (for ex, Kenix Kwok), ...but given his ability to act out characters so well, I always hoped that the day he wins, he would be able to win for a character that is complex and harder to portray.

This is off-topic, but I also would've liked to see Tracy & Raymond together. They had some cute scenes, and surprisingly, in looks, they are a very matching couple. I will always remember her as the first 'Ho Sou' haha. Yes, Ray & Linda story does fall flat and contrived at times.

I actually find Ray very charming and romantic in TOB lol.

[♥ Naive Fox ♥]

Wayne's first leading series and Bobby & Sheren's serie shows

Wayne's 1st leading series is filming only (both series) and Bobby Sheren' Your class or mine is airing (same period as MR) and we'll see which series can do better in term of rating.

[themissingpiece]

^ I think "Your Class Or Mine" will do VERY well, a comedy with 2 ratings guarantees of Bobby & Sheren. But the thing is, TVB won't give it to Bobby. He's past that "stage" and a win by him won't help TVB make any more money.

I think by process of elimination, it is very likely that Raymond will win. Agree with the analyses that Moses won't win a second year in a row. Roger won't win despite the success of D.I.E and the upcoming series. Because that would be a three peat and that's threading into Gallen territory. Though I hope some recognition for D.I.E for Sonija would be great.

Wayne & Sonija's series is done filming, but not sure if it will air this year. He's currently filming the series with Sheren and if anything that should be his big push for best actor. However, that should come out next year.

There is Damien & Joe. But seriously, I thought Wayne in TGC2 was fanatastic, definately Best Actor worthy.

[svv]

I think you guys have forgotten there is another mega production coming up soon, TVB invested billions to film Gem of Life, GOL is expected to be the series of the year, and I don't think it is going to go without any awards, at least a best actor award or best actress award will be from GOL. So Ray is going to be facing competition from Bowie, Moses and Wong Hei.

[♥ Naive Fox ♥]

Don't forget HOG and DOL competition last year. Moreover, I guess TVB will push GOL to 2009 cuz when the award happens, GOL only airs about 1/4 of the series. Nothing much happen in just 1/4.

[lifeiselsewhere]

Personally, I am not a fan of Raymond but his character as Ah Ho is certainly one of his more memorable one and has more substance than his character as Alfred in Heart of Greed.

As for whether he deserves the Best Actor award, I am not so sure about it. Ha Yu has been excellent so far and should be one of the top favourites for the award. Damien Lau was outstanding in Catch Me Now too although that drama was kinda low key. However, I will not be surprised if Raymond is in the top 5 list due to his popularity.

[svv]

The main reason DOL was a flop was because it was a collaboration between mainland and TVB, TVB fans did not like the mainland drama flavour in DOL, but GOL is a pure TVB production. GOL is expected to follow in the steps of the classic TVB series "At the Threshold of an Era", it is very unlikely GOL will lose to MR. And GOL will definitely get nominated for this year as it is 2008's anniversary series, so Ray should expect very tough competition from the cast of GOL. Actually quite alot can happen in 1/4, that is equivalent to the length of a normal 20 episodes drama, MR is only up to episode 20 and alot has happened.

The GOL poster clearly states it's a 2008 series
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/aumy%5Fhan/pic/i...7551038c29b.jpg

[kencl]

To be honest, I was a Raymond hater. I'm one of them anti-fans of Rayray.

but after watching Moonlight Resonance, I have grown to like Raymond. I simply adore his 管家仔 role. He's super super cute with Tavia and Fala~

But is his acting really deserving of best actor? Nope sorry... he's good and all, but its not 'best actor' quality yet.

However, maybe one of his other series will garner him the award, but basing it on just 'ah ho' in MR... personally I don't feel like it will do.

[jadedreams27]

The main reason DOL was a flop was because it was a collaboration between mainland and TVB, TVB fans did not like the mainland drama flavour in DOL, but GOL is a pure TVB production. GOL is expected to follow in the steps of the classic TVB series "At the Threshold of an Era", it is very unlikely GOL will lose to MR. And GOL will definitely get nominated for this year as it is 2008's anniversary series, so Ray should expect very tough competition from the cast of GOL. Actually quite alot can happen in 1/4, that is equivalent to the length of a normal 20 episodes drama, MR is only up to episode 20 and alot has happened.

The GOL poster clearly states it's a 2008 series
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/aumy%5Fhan/pic/i...7551038c29b.jpg

But I believe ATE originally also didn't do well in ratings either and it was also quite long. I don't even think it was that popular when it was originally aired. However, now that people watch again and reminisce about Gallen, people seem to favor it now.

Also, it seems the audience likes comedy and family drama type of series these days. If GOL lacks these interests, then it doesn't matter how good the serie and acting would be, it would fail in ratings and ratings drive the awards factor as evidenced with HOG and DOL. Personally I thought DOL was really good overall, the acting was simply superb so the main actors and actresses in DOL were totally jipped when it came to awards time. I thought Raymond did a great job in DOL, and his character was emotionally challenging to portray. Many people say DOL dragged, but I thought each character was given enough screentime to develop their character. The loyalty involved when it comes to family and lovers is displayed nicely in this serie.

If GOL is the anniversary serie this year, would it be considered in the competition this year? If so, GOL will be so jipped for the awards because would people vote for Best Actor/Favorite character for a character in a serie that is not finished airing? I mean, they could, but it must be some damn good role and portrayal. It's probably best to put this serie for competition with next years.

[shopgirl]

honestly if you ask me. HE might win becuase not because he did good in this series, its cuase hes a popular actore. IN acting wise i dun think he deserves it yet. Looking back, he won that best male actor with Gigi last year right?? yea i think he actually deserve that one cause. i think he did better in Heart of greed One as Alfred because he seems more fit to that character. and then when he realizes he made a mistake on Linda and tried to get her back.. it was really good acting there. also the scene when he was abou tto die and called Linda and the scene when his mom died and he went to look for linda.the scene in which i remember him most as alfred was when linda found out that it was her bf who ray cheated on her with and he teid to find the reason why she had to break up ith her was very veyr good. also i remember when he lost linda and he wrote all those letters of "without ah sum days" tha was very very good. very professal very well fitted to his acting. . i thought that was really really good acting. i am not sure if most of you guys watched the drive of life. well i didn;t really but i watch most of it and i thought he did very well when charmiane cancelled the wedding. I think his crying scenes were mich better in the drve of life and in heart of greed. In MR i am a bit disapointed. looking back on most of the scenes in MR as ah ho. i think he totally blew it eps when the grandma was mad cuase the youngest son came back to HK to live with Ho ma cause he knows he not school material and then when he was going to take the place of the youngest son to live with grandma, i am very diapointted. when fala was making those hand signs and he was explaining what fala was tryint to say, it was not best of his acting and i am a very disapointed the director is giving him the biggest chance to win the award this year and even if he wins this year or not, i totally dun think he deserves it as ah ho. i may be a bit harsh but hers not even half as good as mosses in the frist one as protecting the family. i remeber in HOG one, when hu yu wanted the second wife to come back to marry her and when mosses reject it and told Ha yu that if he was to marry her he will leave the family... well that was very good acting cause maybe its the type of character mosses did before, but i think mosses as duc duc day shows his very very good actor abilities.

what i didn;t liek of ah ho is that when he told his grandma she can;t be selffish cause she used to want all of them to be happy and now she iwant them to all stay with only her. i think his tears there is not too great. it was only a drop of tear you see. the eyes were't even red or anything. secondly, when he was trying to get fala a job and he went to the interveiw with her as a tranlastor, he wasn;t even half as good as sthe guy in the frist hOG when fala was telling the family what her exam question was and it was abotu :lost and found" and she said it in english and chris was the translator. i think Chris did very well as the translator. For raymond in this series, it is not his best at all. if he wins this year, i totally dun think he deserves it. its not an breakthrough character at all and i think in the series so far, i only remember fala, tavia and mosses most for thier actings so i hope one or most ot them win at lease one award.

and for those who dun think mosses deserve to win, well i am not trying to be rude and i may seem unfair cuase maybe i keep comparing mosses to ray but i think mosses did a breakthrough job as being th funny good nice guy. the part that mosses made me think he totally deserves to win as duck duck day is the one when he played the saxaphone when hu yu died. or when alfred died and he saw how upset linda was playing the saxaphone to ray's vincent song was very very good. ALso the part when he was being blamed for bosco's taking the money from his father's business and mosses blamed himself.. those were all still stuck in my head. For the most part, he also did very very well when lee c K was soon to be dying and he told lee c k abotu what is going on in the family and the entire family hates him for it. that was very very good acting. However, what made me very memorable of him as duck duck day is not juct cause he did very good as a good guy, great heart guy to the famiky, but the scenes when he gets blamed or somthign happens and he cries. i thik out of most male actors, he did very good on the crying part. it look so real. i will alway rememer when fala was telling the family about her exam question of lost and found and mooses soon realize she was talking abotu him, his tears looks so real and also the part when he was going to write the apology letter to lee C K and hu ya read it to the family, he was playing the shy guy a the sam scene was very very profeeional and great. Even in MR i remember mosses most when he was helping that old lady cyase she lost lots of money and tavia thought he was gambling again and he thought she called ho ma, when she really didn't/ he started tearing and ran to the phone booth. He is really good at the crying part. anther part that is most memorable of mosses in MR is when he was going to work for the stepmom's company and when he was in the family gathering where he can't take it anymore and told everyone that ho ma is a good mom to the second youngest son and saying that the stepma is evil cuase she blamed her baby loss at that seoncd son. that was very good acting

Finally going back to raymond and th emajor discussion here, this is a totaly flop for raymond. he seems a bit overacting and over exaggerating as most of you guy mentioned before. i think the most memorable part for me that he seemed a bit over exaggerated as an actor is when Jo ba was going to go on vaction for 2 years with the second wife and then he wanted everyone to say how much they hate Jo ba. I rememer he said that when he was young..."ho ma fell and hurt her back and when he needed jo ba here he wasn't here" that was overacting.
the part when he was forcing fala to get a job was a bit overacting. i think cause when ray's tying to make his point of his speech, it seems a bit overacting. I dunno maybe it could me me, btu i really find when he speaks at the dramatic parts, when he tries to prve ho ma is a good mom, he overexagerates alot. nyways i have to see more cause is only been half the series so i cna't really say much yet. But so far, its a not best character for ray

[yuki9066]

I don't think GOL will surpass MR in terms of promotion, acceptance among HK audience and ratings. Like someone said GOL only has 1/4 or the series aired by anniversary time it's just starting. GOL is anniversary series, but it will only start airing by late Oct and finish in Feb next year and that timeframe itself is a low-rating season.

It's only halfway towards the series, Raymond has 20 more episodes to show his skills. In character wise I think the Ah Ho character is up for Most Favourite Character, he has no flaw. Tal about turns, since most of the more experienced contracted seniors like Moses, Kevin, Roger have gotten it Raymond is up for his turn this year since he's most senior among the younger generation.

Besides Raymond also has the upcoming The Four in which he has a very challenging character and leading the series. So Raymond's probability of winning is the highest among the other actors. i don't think TVB will let Damien, Joe Ma, Steven Ma or Bobby wins.

[♥ Naive Fox ♥]

The GOL poster clearly states it's a 2008 series

Too bad but there is no confirmation on GOL's airing date so dun noe if TVB will air it this year or not. TVB delayed the airing time 3 times, and who noe if they would delay it once again?

Airing a part of the series during the award time, remind me of To grow wit love.

If we r talking about acting, different ppl different feeling.

[svv]

Actually GOL's airing time has already been confirmed to be Oct 20, like ATE the series will be divided into two parts with 40 episodes each, the first part will be shown this year and the second part in 2009, so GOL will be nominated for the anniversary awards both this year and in 2009.

It is a possible for a series to win awards before it is fully shown, like in 2005 Roger got a best actor award for Life Made Simple when the series was not completely shown, I think at the time of TVB awards, only 10 episodes of LMS was broadcasted. So GOL definitely has a possibility of producing a best actor this year. Morever, after HOG's cleansweep of the awards last year, I'm sure this year TVB will give the awards to other different series, not the same ppl all over again.

Regarding ATE's ratings, I heard that ATE was shown at a time when the economy was suffering from a stockmarket crash, so the ppl could not bear to watch a series that revolves around buying and selling shares, building up businesses, etc, hence ATE got low ratings. But GOL will not be facing the same problem, it has high possibility for awards and high ratings.

T V B 2 0 0 8 （Oct.&Nov.）
★溏心风暴之家好月圆【刘家豪 监制】
2008年7月28日-2008年9月20日21：30播出
（大结局当晚时间不定）
★尖子攻略【张乾文 监制】
2008年8月25日-2008年9月19日20：30播出
★搜神传【李添胜 监制】
2008年8月25日-2008年10月19日20：00播出
★少年四大名捕【林志华 监制】
2008年9月22日-2008年10与24日20：30播出
★与敌同行【王心慰 监制】
2008年9月22日-2008年10月17日21：30播出
★毕打自己人【曾励珍&罗镇岳 监制】
2008年10月20日-2009年-月-日20：00播出
★珠光宝气（上）【戚其义 监制】【时装类·台庆剧】
2008年10月20日-2008年12月14日21：30播出
（珠光宝气暂定分为上下两部，各40集）

[ShandyGirl]

I really really hope that Raymond will win the award this year!I really like his role in MR and another challenge for him and he did a great job!

[richboy]

i dont think GOL will anticipate this year as it will be only showed 1/4 when the award is held in November. Remenber, last year wasnt Charmaine Sheh nominated with Glittering Days which was aired in Nov-Dec 2006?

back to topic, if Kevin could win with Under the Canopy of Love, why not Ray?
even though Ho isnt the best, imo, i prefer Ray win with Alfred to Ho. but anyway with all Ray' effects for those years, he should get reward

[kenzieng]

i think he deserves it all the way!!!! For alot of people they don't think his acting in MR is outstanding, but what about Mosses last year???? I didn't even like him a bit, but like some of u said he was a good guy in the series so at the end of the day people think he deserve it....I'm not a huge fan of ray or anybody, but opinionwise, i would love to see ray gets the award, and imo his fans or anyone who likes and support him shouldn't mind what others say, just because their idols couldn't get it or maybe they're not fond of him, doesn't mean he shouldn't. I think he did what he has to in developing his character in MR, and i cant wait to see more of him.

[Squirt88]

Nope. Nothing fantastic. Raymond had much better roles before. This role is way too easy for him. I think the veterans like Ha Yu should get it instead.

Anyway, there are still more series to come, so who knows? Maybe they will give it to Roger again, after all DIE did extremely well and his upcoming series might be a good one for him too!

[luvable]

Even though I like Raymond as well as his character. I think Moses will win double. He's so funny.. And I think he'll get more screentime.

[hlac]

RAY'S CHARACTER IS REALLY BIG IN THIS 2ND PART, HE;S REALLY KIND AND HONEST, I THINK HE;S GOT LOTS OF PARTS IN THIS ONE, HE 'S THE MAN OF THE FAMILY AND HOPE HE'LL GET A BIG AWARD FOR HIS CHARACTER. I WANT HIM AND LINDA TO BE TOGETHER.

[stylin-annie]

no offense cuz i know many of you are ray fans but i dont think he is best actor quality yet not just because of ah ho's role but in general. i mean undoubtingly out of all the younger generation actors he is the best but i believe hes still on the first stage of maturing away from the younger generation...when i think of best actor i think of people like bowie, roger, and gallen, now those are true best actors there. ray is still not on their level yet, hes getting close, maybe a few more years for more improvements and maturing......but then again when has tvb really cared about acting, 10 years ago maybe but not anymore, just look at ron ng for example....if ray really does win this year itll only be because of his popularity and not of his acting which is a pity......i really agree with moses who once stated that the awards are not given out like they used to be, they used to be bases on acting skills, now its about gaining the audience's favor, a popularity contest, not recognition for acting.....

[acoustic]

I don't think he deserve the best actor award. There's nothing spectacular about his role and his acting in this series. I feel that just about any actor or most other actor could pull off his role with the same effect as him.

[themissingpiece]

I've been anticipating GOL since they started filming and I have confidence that GOL will surpass MR in terms of series quality. However, I do not think the GOL presents a threat to the awards unless the first 20 eps really wow everyone and become the talk of town. And here's why:

The male cast is Bowie/Moses/Wong He/Kenny/Eddie/Bosco. We can certainly count out Eddie/Bosco/Kenny because they have largely supporting roles. Bowie & Moses won it already, I think a repeat win for either at this time is largely unlikely. Wong He already announced that he is not re-newing with TVB, he's out already.

If anything, GOL presents a better chance at series or the actresses side. However, the chances of it getting any of the actresses is low too. Ada/Maggie are not TVB management contracted. Gigi/LSK won it already and considering LSK's "age" TVB is unlikely to award her. Linda doesn't appear until Ep 40.

I wouldn't count out GOL just yet. The numerous locales is reminiscent of TITS and that got good ratings. It has Ada, who has a good ratings track record. A potential problem, that it's too long/requires too much effort for the general public (like DOP), and audience fatigue - it has many of the MR cast. LSK, Moses, Linda, Bosco. TVB did spend a lot of money on it, the promotion should not be short on it.

As for DOL vs HOG, personally last year, I MUCH preferred DOL. It was written better, things might have been slower, but it made more sense and gave every character development and a chance to shine. DOL cast was robbed, especially Jessica, Raymond, and Charmaine.

[boloney86]

Raymond does get a lot of screen time in this MR series but I do not think he will get the best actor reward. I do not think his character is that memorable. His acting sure has improved but not best actor status. The Gem of Love would also play a big role in the upcoming rewards.

[svv]

I don't quite agree with themissingpiece on the view that just because Bowie/Moses/Gigi/LSK won the award already, they can't win it again. I agree that LSK & Moses are out of the running since they won just last year, and TVB won't let them have a consecutive win. But Bowie and Gigi won the award 4 years ago, that is a really long time and it would be quite normal to win the award again after 4 years, so yeah I think they stand quite a big chance of winning if GOL goes well. Hasn't Roger and Gallen both won more than once? So if they can do it, I don't see why Bowie can't win again. Also, I think Roger stand a big chance of winning again, some ppl say if Roger wins again that will be 3 times which is stepping into Gallen's territory, well, why can't Roger step into Gallen's territory? In fact, Roger is more of a rating guarantee than Gallen, Roger's D.I.E got such high ratings while Gallen's Dog Cat show got mediore ratings. Records are meant to be broken and I wouldn't be surprised if I see actors/actresses winning for the 2nd/3rd time at this years's awards, so don't be so quick to rule out the ones that have won already. TVB might even think Ray is too young for a best actor award, and it would rather give to the senior actors for the 2nd or 3rd time than let Ray win too early.

[kenzieng]

I don't think he deserve the best actor award. There's nothing spectacular about his role and his acting in this series. I feel that just about any actor or most other actor could pull off his role with the same effect as him.

no offense but u sound a little harsh on ur opinion, i'm pretty sure not every actor can act the same way. Everybody is different even in term of acting. His role for MR is not spectacular because it doesn't need to. His character is a normal guy. If u feel like anybody can take a role for him then i seriously think u have a problem

[shawty_says]

I don't think he deserves the Best Actor award. He's a good actor, and his performance as Ah Ho is pretty convincing, but this role isn't challenging for him. I'd rather Raymond win a Best Actor with a character that's challenging, then he'll really deserve it.