of course it'll be a good start :] he will sing well enough to prove himself >< and people will forgive him and love + support him!! yay
//* tzeyuen
Nov 10 2008 4 27 PM
yeps. i have complete faith in his voice that he will PASS! and will definitely prove to people that JACKY is still here better than ever! <-- i sound like an advertisement yeah? :X
Vanadia
Nov 11 2008 1 01 AM
I just went on tangerine jackys management company and i spotted his name next to a date: 10-20-08. And I clicked on it. There is some information there and the same pic as they had in the Liberty Times article--the one where he is wearing a grey hat and leaning over putting garnishes on a rice dish. But i dont know if the info is the same as the Lib Times article or something different My friend EW who translates for us sometimes is sick and not at work so I cant ask.
And reading everyones posts I now think that jacky should go for the PK thing. He might be nervous at first but then his musical ability and good voice would take over...
I just want to hear him sing again--soon!!
//* tzeyuen
Nov 11 2008 5 42 AM
^ it's the same thing. (: i've read it through already... same as #1021 (:
Vanadia
Nov 14 2008 4 02 AM
jacky has updated his blogg again and my friend EW had a go at translating it. Here it is, maybe a bit rough:
"I would like to thank everyone fro the suggestions and support Its given me a lot of encouragement. Today I've given feedback to Xing Guang, that is, I accept this challenge, so come on Class 4 [Season 4?], you will see how many I will PK.
but now my biggest worry after I left the stage for one year is I don't really feel calm or familiar with the stage. So this time my performance is the time I most need your support. So all of the strangeness will become familiar when I see you there.
So that's why I truly wish everyone to come to the recording studio to give me encouragement and say, Go! Go! Jacky. So let me see the JK posters that I havent seen for ages. So the recording date will be on Sunday 23/11. You don't need to go to work, you dont need to go to class. I will let you know the exact time [of the recording session] later."
mingdee
Nov 14 2008 10 41 AM
QUOTE (Vanadia @ Nov 14 2008 11 02 AM)
.. So let me see the JK posters that I havent seen for ages. So the recording date will be on Sunday 23/11. You don't need to go to work, you dont need to go to class.
HAHAHA .. jacky is so cute! so he is telling his fans there is no excuse not to go and support him coz it's gonna be on a Sunday ... no work no class .. haha .. and yeah posters are good morale boosters .. .
go jacky go go go!
Mandy.sg
Nov 14 2008 1 09 PM
yeah...i think he misses seeing the posters and banners very much! the taiwan fans are so lucky to be able to give jacky moral support by being in the recording studio physically. i shall wish jacky the best of luck even though i cant be there sunday=no work=no class=all fans go support jacky for the PK!! yay!!
//* tzeyuen
Nov 14 2008 2 53 PM
i want to go. but i'm sadly here in singapore. ): anyone here going? he really needs our support yeah?
GOOD LUCK JACKY! you can do it!
Mandy.sg
Nov 15 2008 5 28 AM
at least we will have the luxury of watching his PK im contented with that wonder if he'll be singing his own songs or other people's song? usually in singing competition the contestants sing other singers' songs but since jacky has his own album and songs...
//* tzeyuen
Nov 15 2008 7 35 AM
i want to hear him sing gao jie! [i love that song to the max lah. esp when he sings it. it's not the same with other people. no FEEL... :X]
Mandy.sg
Nov 15 2008 7 58 AM
i think gao jie is nice, but feeling so right is also quite a nice song XD lets hope he can sing his own songs. yay!
Vanadia
Nov 17 2008 1 30 AM
i agree //* tzeyuen and mandy.sg i love the song gao jie its a realy powerful ballad but id like to hear jacky sing something i havent heard him sing before realy i dont mind what he sings as long as it is a good song that he can use to show off his voice and also that he can put some feeling into
the danger of accepting the PK challenge is that as an established singer if he loses to a contestant it will make him look very weak and silly He needs a good song that he can do something with
Mandy.sg
Nov 17 2008 5 21 AM
jacky has great vocals and his range is quite wide. i will prefer him to sing ballad instead of fast paced songs though. jacky singing ballads create a very emo feeling. something like listening to aska sing love songs? very "got feelings"
lets just hope that he wins la. it'll seriously be quite embarrassing to lose when u are an established singer. but usually one million stars esp. the one sent for the pk are very powerful...
DTLCT
Nov 18 2008 1 35 AM
If we're talking about types of songs, I like him singing all types. He has a strong voice so he can actually take it. (Oh yea, talking about that, it wouldn't be the same if he didn't sing for the main theme of several series!)
mingdee
Nov 18 2008 4 48 AM
QUOTE (Vanadia @ Nov 17 2008 8 30 AM)
the danger of accepting the PK challenge is that as an established singer if he loses to a contestant it will make him look very weak and silly.
that's my worry!
QUOTE (Vanadia @ Nov 17 2008 8 30 AM)
He needs a good song that he can do something with.
a good song to you might be a 'not that great' one to the judges. views are subjective but the judges decision is final. period.
a win would not make much diff to jacky coz it would be like it's expected. HOWEVER, a lost would, yes, you said it, makes him looks weak and silly.
anyway since jacky is taking up the challenge, let's hope everything goes well for him. jia you jacky!
Mandy.sg
Nov 19 2008 1 14 PM
how i wish i can watch him on one million stars THIS VERY MOMENT~ i miss seeing jacky on the screen so much! i think he'll choose some other songs that he has never performed before, some andy lau or leehom's song? i think he'll sound great
//* tzeyuen
Nov 19 2008 5 26 PM
has he recorded it yet? i guess i am pretty anxious :X
Vanadia
Nov 19 2008 10 25 PM
i think he said on his blogg that he is recording the PK ep this Sunday the 23rd. And cos its a sunday he said fans dont have to go to work or go to class and can come out with posters to support him
So as far as i know thats when he is recording it
im anxious too but i do have a lotta faith in his talent
Mandy.sg
Nov 20 2008 1 57 AM
how i wish i can fly for taiwan this very moment my friend is there for a holiday now XD i really hope his fanbase in taiwan can all attend the recording. it'll give him confidence and let him know that we've never forgotten about him.
jillcute
Nov 20 2008 8 02 AM
i'm happy that jacky is back agaoin
mingdee
Nov 20 2008 3 36 PM
jacky's news i fink. He is going to sing the song "forgive me" .
the song yuan liang wo is from jam hsiao's first album. most likely he chose this song because that is the message he wants to put across: for the public to forgive him for his mistakes last time. in that new article he talks about what kind of life he lived in the rehab and how the people that urged him to start anew...jacky, we already "yuan liang" you already, jiayou and good luck!
mingdee
Nov 21 2008 4 00 AM
woww looks like a good strategy .. to sing someone else's song. so if he loses it's like well it's not his song but if he wins? hehehe ...
Vanadia
Nov 21 2008 4 18 AM
My friend EW had a look at the article and just as Mandy.sg and mingde said, a lot of it is just like the Liberty Times one, but there are two or three things that are new:
1) When jacky was in rehab he had to force himself to shower and use the loo in front of his cellmate. Luckily the other inmates were mostly economic criminals [white collar] so he didn't feel so much fear
2) One of the older inmates told him well, you fell off the mountain into the bottom of the valley but now it is time to climb back up
3) He is going to do the PK by singing the Xiao Jing Teng (Jam Hsiao) song 'Forgive Me'. He was asked which contestant he was afraid of and he answered Sun Bi Na.
i hope he goes realy well on sunday jia you, jacky!
mingdee
Nov 22 2008 3 34 AM
thanks vanadia for the extra info . the problem with long news .. even when i use google translate .. it gives weird interpretations .. tough for me to figure .. lolzz
anyway, oh damn .. poor jacky .. but i didnt know the state of the rehab is so bad like the way he described it .... a very painful lesson for jacky but glad for him it's all over .
Mandy.sg
Nov 22 2008 7 06 AM
i guess that experience really urged him to change for the better and get back on his feet...i certainly hope he'll succeed in his comeback with his determination! go jacky MINGDE- i hate using google translate too! usually i'll do translation with software sentence by sentence, though many a times it does not make any sense
Vanadia
Nov 22 2008 11 08 PM
QUOTE (mingde @ Nov 22 2008 1 34 PM)
anyway, oh damn .. poor jacky .. but i didnt know the state of the rehab is so bad like the way he described it .... a very painful lesson for jacky but glad for him it's all over .
I agree totly My friend EW who sometimes translates for this thread is from a village about 3 hrs drive from beijing said that rehab must have been very hard for jacky cos he came from a wealthy family and must have always been treated like a prince at home She thought that he had gained some self esteem cos he managed to overcome a dificult obstacle --rehab--on his own
anyway i hope he goes well today (sunday) I went on YouTube and found the Jam Hsaio version of forgive me and it is realy a nice ballad with a low verse and a strong chorus with some high notes jacky should be able to bring a lot of feeling to it cos i think he is genuinly sorry about his past actions
DTLCT
Nov 23 2008 2 50 AM
^ Check his blog, he's ready! (I haven't check that version out yet 'cause I don't want to compare - lol. I tend to get there whether I want to or not so decided to listen to Jacky first - whenever he goes on - and then come back later to listen to the other version.)
mingdee
Nov 24 2008 4 37 PM
jacky blogged again!
"這間具壓力何緊繃練習ㄉ十天最後到PK終於劃下了句點。 謝謝所有有到現場ㄉ朋友們,看到你們真ㄉ給我很大ㄉ信心, 還有那些默默支持我ㄉ朋友 我沒有讓你們失望 雖然出現一些插曲讓我不舒服何失落但還是贏ㄉ這場比賽 , 細節我不多說12/5 看了就知道. Thank you guys, love you all!!! "
I think jacky won!!!!! program will be aired 5 Dec i think.
Vanadia
Nov 24 2008 9 58 PM
I just went on Tangerine --I posted the direct link a few posts back--and GUESS WHAT???
There are these two big articles about jacky! One is after the date 11/14 and the other is 11/20. You have to click on the line of characters after each date and the stories and pictures come up. (I am learning chinese and i can recognise his name but not much more)
One of the articles has jk surrounded by all these running shoes and hes wearing these cute shorts The other one has him in jeans and a windcheater (i think in the US people say a sweatshirt) and nerdish but cute glasses and one of his famous beanies and he's recording something! At long last! im not very technicle so i wondered if someone could go on tangerine and maybe post the images on this thredd?
Also, i put a copy of his latest blogg entry on my friend EWs desk but she was away from work yesterday but maybe she can translate it today but i htink mingde could be right that he won cos he said he loved everyone thanks mingde
mingdee
Nov 25 2008 4 41 AM
**
people! ... SCREAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
** Jacky won!!
recent pics of jacky!
recently, jacky shared about an incident during 183club days - he said once mingdao accidentally stepped on his shoes and he angrily STARED at mingdao and the two did not speak a word to each other for the rest of the day! lolzz .. dat was kinda cute! both are mummy's boy haha .. and the fact that jacky mentioned mingdao goes to show that they both get along well till today, sweet .
i saw the word 'divine' on the cap but could not see the next word ... could it be 'mercy'?
credit to uploader
Mandy.sg
Nov 25 2008 4 51 AM
aw the pictures are so cute!! and he is still sharing incident during the 183 club days, shows that he still loves them a lot XD most likely he won la, or else he wont be so happy and excited. and he stills doesnt want to tell us, but instead tell us to watch the show I WONDER WHAT HE'S RECORDING!! omg im so excited!! and jacky's so famous for beanies as u can tell from the gao jie album :]
Vanadia
Nov 26 2008 12 39 AM
My friend JT from my old work has translated the article on the tangerine website dated 2008-11-14. It covered some of the same ground as other articles so i wont post the entire translation, but here are some more new things:
"JK saw the news about the former president of Taiwan [chen shui-bian] being sent to jail. That reminded him of how he had to sit on the ground to eat meals in jail, and go to the toilet and shower in front of other inmates. He suffered severe insomnia for a month.
[...] When he was asked whether he found it was hard to live without drugs in jail, he answered 'I am not drug addicted and so it was not a problem for me to stay away from them.' But one thing Jacky felt even worse about in the jail was that he was often pointed out as a celebrity.
Jacky said his agent did not want him to go on the 'One Million Stars' show. But he decided to go ahead because he believed it was a challenge for himself. He needed it. He is getting some profesional advice on his singing. [...]"
He sounds determined and positive doesnt he?
Mandy.sg
Nov 26 2008 1 41 AM
why didnt his agent want him to go for the PK unless he doesnt want JK to have a comeback? luckily JK is determined enough. he's humble and he knows getting more professional advice for his singing is good for him. i agree with Vanadia that he is very positive! good luck JK i believe if u are willing to constantly challenge yourself you'll become better and better, even better than before! jiayou!
Vanadia
Nov 26 2008 5 04 AM
QUOTE (mingde @ Nov 25 2008 2 37 AM)
jacky blogged again!
"這間具壓力何緊繃練習ㄉ十天最後到PK終於劃下了句點。 謝謝所有有到現場ㄉ朋友們,看到你們真ㄉ給我很大ㄉ信心, 還有那些默默支持我ㄉ朋友 我沒有讓你們失望 雖然出現一些插曲讓我不舒服何失落但還是贏ㄉ這場比賽 , 細節我不多說12/5 看了就知道. Thank you guys, love you all!!! "
I think jacky won!!!!! program will be aired 5 Dec i think.
My workmate EW came back to work today and translated this blogg entry but mingde had the gist of it anyway. Here it is:
"Finally, I can draw a full stop after the 10 days practice. Thanks all my friends for giving me such great confidence, and the ones who support me quietly. I didn't make you disappointed in me. Finally I won the PK. I'm not going to talk in detail, you will see till 12/5"
i can hardly wait!
DTLCT
Nov 26 2008 6 08 AM
Thanks so much, Vanadia (and your friend) for taking the time as always. And yes! He won! We can celebrate now! And I can't wait either!
And I think the reason why his agent wouldn't want him to go on is he might lose and it might take a worse turn? That was what some of us were worrying about before, right? So it would make sense. But luckily went ahead and take the risk. It's good to see him facing the challenge instead of backing down.
mingdee
Nov 26 2008 8 39 AM
Jacky has taken on a new English name - JAKE. In one of his replies on his blog, he said he wanted to start all things new and fresh. Go check out his blog to ascertain this in case .. lolzz
I think Jacky .. ermm i mean Jake has made good of his punishment by eating humble pie and facing the 'one million star' challenge head on like any other newcomer, fair and square, make or break. I guess maybe he didnt want to come across as conveniently relying on his past success to make a comeback. I think he wanted to show his sincerity and thus his 'Forgive Me' .
DTLCT
Nov 26 2008 10 09 AM
^ Jake? Grrr....okay, great for starting fresh and new again but that would get a bit of getting used to. (Hope he isn't changing his name like Wei Ru or I'll go crazy keeping up.) Or should I be happy that he didn't change his Chinese name yet? (*knock on wood*)
Mandy.sg
Nov 26 2008 11 22 AM
haha...we can go change the thread title to Jake Zhu Fan Gang already! alamak :0 i dont think he'll change just as fast as wei ru, now i still dunno if i should call her Ive or Doris -.- well, good luck to jacky...JAKE on he plans to start anew...cos we'll be supporting u
Vanadia
Nov 26 2008 9 41 PM
im thrilled he won the PK but like DTLCT i am having trouble getting my head around the name jake ugh! i love jacky as a name It is both strong and boyish at the same time Is he insisting on Jake??? I dont mind JK which he calls himself sometimes
And i hope he doesnt change his chinese name either Id have to change my username PANIC! !! cos Vanadia is based on 'fan' which means vanadium
Hasnt Sam Wang from 183 club changed the chinese character for part of his name? shao or whatever? someone told me that But the sound has stayed the same but its represented by a diferent character
i love "Jake" as a singer anyway though sigh...
DTLCT
Nov 27 2008 1 19 AM
QUOTE (Vanadia @ Nov 26 2008 12 41 PM)
And i hope he doesnt change his chinese name either Id have to change my username PANIC! !! cos Vanadia is based on 'fan' which means vanadium
Hasnt Sam Wang from 183 club changed the chinese character for part of his name? shao or whatever? someone told me that But the sound has stayed the same but its represented by a diferent character
i love "Jake" as a singer anyway though sigh...
LOL! Awww...poor Vanadia's having a hard time to adjust too. And yes, I love "Jacky" more, it's "Jacky, Jacky, Jacky" not "Jake". (There I said it!) - Okay, that was a tad psycho, eh? Just kidding!
And about the "famous" beannie, IF I get my hands on it (tough luck!), I'm going to burn it down. (JUST KIDDING) Don't know, like seeing his hair out in the open ('cause I'm vain liket that) more.
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And yes, Sam did changed the character "Shao". (And if it's translated to Viet sounds kind of weird and sort of a tongue twister when you say "Shao Wei" although it sounds the same in Mandarin. It's "Thien Vy" before and Now it's "Thieu Vy" so it's a bit - rah - strange.)
So in conclusion, yes, please Jk, don't ever change your Chinese name. It sounds super nice as it is. (In both Mandarin & Viet, lol.)
Edit: Someone's update happy so if you go there, you can see some Halloween pixs!
Mandy.sg
Nov 27 2008 3 31 AM
sigh~ jacky is now JAKE but jake is still JK right?? JK sounds nice so i want to keep calling him that XD i dont think he'll change his chinese name, its like so nice, ZHU FAN GANG. whatever his name we're going to continue loving him
DTLCT
Nov 27 2008 4 04 AM
^ Yes, oh well, just shorten it to Jk now since it'll be awhile before I can call him "Jake" without feeling weird. (lol) But looking on the positive side, I won't be thinking of Jacky Cheung (who is another fav. singer of mine - and wonder if Jk took the name "Jacky" 'cause of him or not since that's his fav. singer too) or some other dude anymore (lol).
*Edit 11/27/08*:
Some caps of Jacky on 超級大頭目 11/25/08
*thinking mode*
Captured by yours truly!
And tell me if you want me to post some more later.
mingdee
Nov 27 2008 5 17 AM
hmmm .. you guys seem to have a problem with his new name Jake lolzz .. i dont think he will change his Chinese name unless he has propelling reason to do so like shaowei ..
Jake (lake, cake, make) .. perhaps can be pronounced as 'jay key' ? oh oh but then it might not sound too good either grrr ... unlike when you say 'Jacky' you naturally form a smile whereas when you say 'Jay key' or 'Jake' you wont have the same effect .. lolzz
anyway i saw those halloween pics of his .. haha .. dancing in the street? .. somehow he gives off the vibe that he likes the nightlife and partying ... but i trust he will pay lots of attention to his singing career too
DTLCT
Nov 27 2008 11 42 AM
^ See? We told you so! It doesn't sound the same! (*runs away before you get here*) No wait, yes - nice that you're analyzing it and trying to find other alternatives!
Halloween pixs? Yea. But a lot of people nightlife w/o that effect too (not defending him but just don't want to generalize it for the rest of the population who likes nightlife). Actually, everything's so quiet at night (except if you're at a party - that is, lol).
And I think after so much happened, he will try hard and be serious about his career. I think he's just celebrating a little of his small victory and take that as motivation for the future? (And come on! It's Halloween! Everyone can be a little crazy. BUT why in the world would someone share Halloween pixs in the end of Novemember? *shrugs*)
Vanadia
Nov 27 2008 10 02 PM
QUOTE (DTLCT @ Nov 27 2008 9 42 PM)
^ See? We told you so! It doesn't sound the same! (*runs away before you get here*) No wait, yes - nice that you're analyzing it and trying to find other alternatives!
Halloween pixs? Yea. But a lot of people nightlife w/o that effect too (not defending him but just don't want to generalize it for the rest of the population who likes nightlife). Actually, everything's so quiet at night (except if you're at a party - that is, lol).
And I think after so much happened, he will try hard and be serious about his career. I think he's just celebrating a little of his small victory and take that as motivation for the future? (And come on! It's Halloween! Everyone can be a little crazy. BUT why in the world would someone share Halloween pixs in the end of Novemember? *shrugs*)
i agree DTLCT and [b]mingde[/b] about the name. it dosent sound as smooth and smiley as jacky but i can understand why he would want to make a clean break with the past and start over again And there are a fair few other jackys around including Jacky Cheung but also there is another jacky zhu who comes up on YouTube. And the most famous one of all is Jackie Chan
my personal theory is that all or many of the chinese jackys owe their name to Australia This is because jackie chan's dad worked for many years on building sites in Canberra and he named his son after one of his workmates who was called Jacky which is very common name among that generation. Thats how the story goes anyway
I like jk as a name but I love Zhu Fan Gang's singing so much that if he wants jake i'll eventually call him Jake
And i think he has turned over a new leaf and i believe he will never use marijauna again but that doesnt make him a saint and i think he still is a party boy well Im glad he is not depressed anymore and is having a good time
he is always posting photos that are out of sync with the dates. Remember the one of him skiing? Also, I think that fairly recent beach one was from last year before he went into rehab
DTLCT
Nov 27 2008 10 27 PM
^ Thanks for cushioning my post so I can get more pixs up! Kakaka! (Just kidding!) And thanks for reminding me about how random Jk gets with posting pixs. It always throws us off.
And yes, caps by me again. (Of course he didn't say those things, I was just making up the words for the sake of the pixs! )
Mandy.sg
Nov 28 2008 6 25 AM
haha nice 'invented' quotes from jk's cute expressions! the game he's playing looks cool, its the type of game that everyone eats/drink something and act it out to see who tasted the horrible one right? JK looks plain CUTE
mingdee
Nov 28 2008 8 13 AM
are those errrr .. Jake's recent pics or what? he looks good though i like his look in Magicians of Love the most - swanky as .
and ohh i am wondering what's happenning to the other two variety shows he blogged that he was supposed to be on - 百万大歌星 and kangxi ? no news ..
DTLCT
Nov 28 2008 8 18 AM
Mandy.sg, yes - something like that. This one, the hosts taste it and when the guests are done guessing, then they reveal the truth. (They have to figure out which one of the host eat or drink that particular item indicated.) After that, they let the guests tried it to get the feel of the actually taste. So of course everyone was smiling...until they actually taste it!
There were other games too on there, like the one you have to use your memory too. I'll post up the link of the video later.
More pixs? Here:
"You know the answer, come on, let me help you push that button"
(Still alive after getting attacked by the evil air thing)