OH GOD...

It's confirmed by Mr.Sun that Jacky leave 183club. A friend from Shanghai read a news from TV just now. She watched TV and see Mr. Sun annouced this news, he said 183club won't add another member and will remain 4 members at the moment.
So start from today, Jacky won't follow 183's activity!!!

OH GOD I AM SO SAD NOW!!! *CRIES* ....I am speechless...

So is it too late to petition for Jacky??? I am sooo sad... I really want Jacky to stay.. BUT if he does leave, I just hope that he and the other 4 members will still be close no matter what... That is one the things that I love about 183, which is their brotherly bond... I hope that that is one thing that will never change no matter what....

ive been following this issue and i really do hope jacky can be given another chance, evn tho by now its probably already confirmed....but he really didnt do anything wrong. howevr, ive heard that SZ is known to show favorism...is that why toro and QE werent kicked out and he is?

anyway, i seriously hate this...jacky is my second favorite member in 183...and if no ones going to replace him, then how will they manage? i mean, YR would be the only lead, and unless one of the other 3 replace jacky, itll be too much for YR alone...MD and SW are both too busy...and johnny barely gets any coverage, but in my opinion, he really cant be a lead vocalist...i guess all we can do is give them our support and see if SZ will change his mind as soon as the worst blows over.

Yea, even though it is confirmed for the most part, but I am still praying that SZ will change his mind because I almost sure that that future success of 183 will be really hurt without Jacky. Even though I like SW and MD a lot, I have to admit.. they cannot sing as well as Jacky. Johnny's voice isn't bad either, but once again isn't as nice as Jacky's. I agree that SZ shows a lot of favortism as well and is sooo unfair...

I think he did wrong when he ignored a direct order from his boss not to create any more bad news when he went to Hong Kong. But I also think Sun Zhong's punishment was too harsh. There should be some middle ground about this...

As for favoritism, Sun Zhong has given Jacky several warnings not to repeat the same "mistake", while he didn't give any to QE or Toro before freezing them. And Jacky's refusal to be frozen is what leads to SZ's decision that he couldn't control Jacky anymore and decided to cut him off.

Jacky would be okay doing solo, I think... he was a solo artist before he joined 183, and he has the talent to continue to do so. I'm more concerned about YR and 183 now. Can YR carry the burden of being a lead singer? Although I'm sure he would get the support from MD, SW and YXS... and 183 wouldn't be the same without Jacky in it. Guess we will have to wait and see how things will turn out. I just hope they would be as close as ever, even when they're not in the same group anymore.

Wonder...what 183 will be without Jacky??especially their songs...and is James will still make a song 4 183 Club?as we know most of 183 song is make by James..Wanna ask is the Duo VJ under Jungiery?Missing Jacky!!

I think VJ would still be in Jungiery, since they're scheduled to have an album released this year. Last time I heard, the album is almost done, and in post production stage right now...

Ive asked the moderators in ZhenAi and they said you can still join the petition, they will fax it to the Jungiery today...

Agree with you, Trinie Jie Jie!! I also hope they 5 will stay good friends always!!

In MDW forum there is an article saying that Jacky not only left 183club but also the Jungiery...so sad

does anyone have the whole album of jacky's gao jie? I tried to find and d/l but to no avail. Can anyone please be a kind soul and send it to me? I'm crossing my fingers about jacky leaving jstar and 183 club until there is a down right final confirmation. If jacky leaves 183club it just wouldnt be e same anymore. It'll be like chopping someone else leg though surviving.
(

i hope the news is not true but if Jacky goes solo I will support him. I will be sad for 183 Club though.
but is it worth signing the petition or has Jacky himself had enough and wants to leave?

I found out through MDW 'cause I was finally done w/ papers and was browsing. I was totally "speechless". After Jacky's out, it'll be YR's turn as lead, but yes there will be burden. I'm in class and not really supposed to be on but the other two are working so I sneak on. So anyways, I was just thinking randomly while listening to professor before and I was like, "Imagine if fans request Affective Line from 183 Club" -> who's going to replace Jacky in that one? Get my idea? *shrugs* Random but it's my fav. song and Jacky & YR were the lead singers in that song and the others were just sorta in the bg helping w/ the overall (aka chorus). Just too weird.

Jacky did ignore direct orders, etc. But it's just weird. Isn't J-Star too strict sometimes ? *shrugs*

I don't think I would buy 183 Club stuffs anymore if he's out. Well, okay maybe just for kicks but it has to be really good or I'm not evn considering. YR will pull it off and I have no doubt but the others have to work hard too. Johnny and Ming Dao's voices are nice but not strong enough for some songs. Sam is sorta beyond help. (Although I love his acting!) But his singing isn't all that. *shrugs*

What's next ? If the damage is irreversable, I'll just have to save money for the future when Jacky goes solo and buy his album instead or wait for VJ! Finally VJ gets an album!

Forgot -> so does that mean Jacky won't get to participate in the 2nd album? I have no idea about the progress of this so just want to ask.

I just found out today what has been happening with 183Club and Jacky. I have been busy so I have not kept up with all the celebrities like I did in the past. I have to say losing Jacky will put stress on 183Club as a group. He is one of he lead singer with a stronger voice that 3 of the members. I have heard his solo album and it is good. If he does go solo, he has a chance even more now that since he is more well known for having been in 183Club.

I agree with you DTLCT. I mean I like all of the other members of 183 a lot too, but Jacky is the strongest singer and I don't know how 183 will be successful without him. It will be a really big burden on Yu Rong. Gan Qing Xian is my favorite song too. Boy if fans requested that song to be sang live, what is 183 going to do???

I agree that Jacky did ignore orders but I don't think he deserves to be kicked out. J star's rules are sooo strict... I am still praying that Jacky will be let back in... I now question if I will buy 183 albums anymore if Jacky is out....I am still so sad over this.... I don't know if 183 can ever the same again without Jacky. I mean Ming Dao even had to ask for Jacky's help when singing the songs for Angel Lover. I don't think that soundtrack would have been successful without Jacky and Yu Rong's help.... All we can do is support 183 and Jacky and hope for the best....

I kind of agree with Orchid1233, but I think it is better to have Jacky in the group since he is still developing his career. It can go both ways depending on his luck and opportunities. I wish the best for Jacky.. I just hope that SZ realizes that 183 really needs Jacky and will let him have another chance.

i do think that evn if he really does leave, at least SZ can consider a replacement, because the other 3 will seriously find it hard to take his place. still tho...im going to miss him, altho still hoping he wont go...and didnt 183 start recording for their second album already? wats going to happen to that? sigh.....i hope they know that all these fans are doing their best to support them.

omg it can't be Jacky won't leave 183 club plz
he is the lead singer in there how can it be
i REALLY.......hope that SZ will give him one more chance
i still can't get over the news about him leaving 183 club
i love all of them
anyways i still hope that he really can stay in 183 club

hey guys.
i'm so confused.
WHY was he kicked out?
And was he KICKED out or did he leave on his own accord?
If someone can explain that to me, that would be great.
Thanks.

Yea, I know! I mean like well, he should obey the rules set out but then some of the rules I think that they might as well be monks (no offense to any religion since I'm Buddhist too, but just giving examples). I mean Come on, how did they know that he did a certain stuffs, did they actually spy on him like face to face day and night? Or like the media took pictures of it and what looks like what it is and they just let their imagination run wild and blame him? I'm not trying to get him out of what he did, but I'm just saying like there's always two side. It's just like "what if" part, you know?

And thanks for agreeing w/ me on GQX! Jacky & YR are the best duo in that song! (Saw some other clips of them singing together on YouTube too, they're just awesome together. I think it was one of those events where the others are not present for some reason *shrugs* probably busy.)



I hope 2nd album have him already so they can't change anything, etc. 'Cause I really want to listen to him sing along w/ the others some more. I'd been so excited when I heard about the 2nd album. But then now it's like....hmmmm....looks like he's not going to promote it w/ the others as a band? *shrugs*



I have no idea what the final reason is that got him kick out, but he did get kick out by the manager. There has been lots of rumors going around and I no longer know the real one but I swear those are minor comparing to some other artists. *shrugs*

Oh yeah, I agree with some of you of how he got warned and ignored it so it's somewhat lenient already, but then again some other artist under this weirdo manager doesn't get promote much either and they didn't do anything wrong. Like let's say YR. I mean he's really good and we start to see he's getting popular too but then he doesn't even get to go out on his own like MD & SW on series or others stuffs. So that's just weird.

And could someone translate this please? http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/070609/17/fksb.html

Or if you're too busy to do it, could you summarize the idea of it? Thanks!

Is it still possible that JC will be back to 183 someday?! I ever imagine that this all is just the sensation of SZ... Maybe SZ want to concern with 56 and then a rumour such like this?! Then when 183 will release 2nd album, SZ announce that JC is back to 183.... Is it possible?! I hope nothing impossible.... Even this all very hurt us and also JC..... I don't want missed anyone of 183..... 183 is stage of 5 members, hope that always will be 5...... Now, the news had blew up that JC has left 183..... Just need to hope a miracle that announce JC back to 183.... If this is real, it will be a very surprise for fans and 183's 2nd album will be very booming..... I can't imagine that 183 will lost a member...... Where the chemistry?! The chemistry of 183 is very2 amazing, it's because of the 5 members.......
Hope that JC will be beack to 183.......

Is this really confirmed?

I really couldn't image 183 without Jacky! OMG...what a waste.First from R&B then to Toro and now to Jacky! Why are they freezing these talented people.

Is it because Sun Zhong want to freeze him but because Jacky didn't want to be freeze so he just said to Sun Zhong that he would be out of the group? I hope Jacky would be back to 183 because 183 wouldn't be the same without him.

About Sun Zhong and the 'idol-girl' thing. I think it's kinda weird too for a person to leave his or her idol because their idol already have someone. I mean most of the fans would understand and most of the fans would really prefer to look up as their idol as an idol not as an boyfriend/girlfriend. The problem I think with Sun Zhong is that he is too strict and he must open-up and let his artist have a girlfriend/boyfriend.

Even though it is confirmed for the most part that he is out, I still believe that he may come back.. I will still continue to believe that... I am just praying that he will make a come back after he and SZ cools off.... To me, that would be a miracle.... I hope that SZ realizes that 183 needs Jacky or else I honestly don't know if 183 club can continue to release successful albums and become popular... GOsh, I was waiting for another drama with all 5 of them with Jacky and YU ROng as the leads... I guess that wish is now gone.. SOB....

I wonder how James(Jacky's ge ge) feels about this? I bet he is really sad but doesn't know what to do to help Jacky... sigh... I hope that SZ will cool off and Jacky as well so they can work things out.... Praying hard....

He might be replacing Jacky. Md and QE is like sortof "endorsing" this mainland competition Jue Dui Chang Xiang where competitors sing and dance, like all the American idol etc type of competition. SZ's sortof training them cuz they're under J-Star training. There was a news today that SZ does consider choosing from one of them, a replacement for 183 as he also think that singing wise, 183 isn't very strong.
So I guess unless his attempt to recruit from this batch fails, there's little chance of Jacky returning.
And if he does choose from this group, I guess the singing will be good so 183 album will probably still be good.

I don't think James can do much to help Jacky. He isn't that famous either and there's little he can do to change SZ's mindset.

And WQYL had news on this today. I heard from Taiwan fans that even Sun Xie Zhi who's like the yi ge in J-Star stepped out to say somethign(no idea what) about Jacky's leaving. The ending part WQYL said is a it is like a mutual acceptance of this decision already so there's no need for more comments. I'm not very sure, this is just what I got from some Taiwan fans.
It just confirms that Jacky's out.
I hope he can find a good manager who will develop him BETTER than SZ. He has the singing ability so make use of it and I think j-star suffer more from the loss of Jacky then he does from the loss of J-star. 183 Club's singing for YYSJY's OST will really be put to the test without Jacky.

yeah. it's comfirm Jacky is out of 183 club, our of Jungiery. It is being announced through Wan Quan Yu Le.. check out the news yrself... and now he is back to Tangerine Entertainment Co Ltd.


http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/niQ6kjSDAIU/

I think Jungiery is retarded. Now that Jacky is out, I am not looking forward to any of 183's albums anymore. Like c'mon, we all know MD, SW and Johnny's vocals are not that good. Ehlo is not too bad, but he can't be the only lead singer! Sheesh.

But then again, I never liked how Jungiery manages its artistes so I am just hoping that Jacky's current management company would let him gain more exposure and develop his talents further :)

Thanks again for all of the news you guys... I really wished that the whole group of 183 can leave just like K one did... As for speaking up for Jacky, how would we know if Sam, MD, Ehlo and Johnny didn't?? Even if they did, they don't have a lot of control or authority since they are also under SZ's power... Now I really question if I will continue to buy 183 albums without Jacky. I am guessing the soundtrack for the future series will also have more songs for 5566 and 7 flowers since 183 is now a lot weaker without Jacky.... Also, since Jacky is still in San Li hopefully he can still act with the other members of 183 and work with them again, so I guess it isn't as bad... Qiao Qiao works with them all the time, so I guess I feel better now...

After all those fuss and worries, I don't think it's that bad. I mean like Sweety are from there and Jacky's returning to his original company so it's not that bad. They seem to have more freedom among themselves, right? Jacky worked with them in past so he would probably cooperate more with them in that, right? Hope so!

And ziai - I agree. I will have to be very selective in buying their CDs now. Not doubting YR as said before, but sorta not really confidence that the others can pull it off. They can sing together and sound really good, but who's going to pull off those incredibly high parts w/o sounding all "screech-up" ? *shrugs* (Not sure how to describe but you hope you guys get what I mean.)

i think the news is sad but maybe good for Jacky. he is very talented and deserves a manager who will help him with his career. i have heard he likes to sing R&B and maybe jazz and he wants to be a serious artist-- well its hard to do that in an idol band.

i like the others but i probably wont buy 183 club music any more too sad

it's sort of good for him too...because in 183club, he doesn't get as much jobs/projects like SW & MD...

but then, it is also risky....last time 183club can still get good album sales from a combination of SW/MD/YXS/YR fans....now that Jacky is alone.....how many of the fans from 183club will really buy his album......moreover taiwan industry is a realistic industry......u do not have good sales, don't ever think of having a 2nd album....so if jacky really release his 1st album after leaving 183club, that will his deciding factor if he will have his 2nd album.....

some time i really think SZ is not a really good manager. even though he make mistake, but at least he is still the main singer of 183 meh. i really wonder will SZ make 183 from 5 to 4person or find another to replace him... but i think replacement doesn;t help a lot de, some fan might not get use to new singer so do 183 member... hai.. really hope there is still some chance



whole group 183 leave... hmm that can be a gd idea, but if 183 left jstar, SURE there is less chance see them le bah... there are alway advantage and disadvantage



hai, for me i still looking forward la, no matter what. Because for me i dun really care, can heard them singing is already gd le, dun really expect more

Hmm..I think the idea of leaving Jungiery is a very good idea..but what about Shao Wei..he's also a member of 5566,so it is impossible for 183 Club leave J-Stars isn't it?..So now that Jacky has gone back to Tangerine..I hope he's happy there..Because he still can collaborate with J-Stars,especially 183 Club!..Jacky JIA YOU..!

i've been gone for really long time and i just didn't see this issue coming!
in singing, i love Jacky the most.. how will 183 manage this now huh? he's their best voice talent! even though he'll still get some colab with 183 club.. it just wont be the same..

After reading several reports of 183 club's trip to Indonesia (MD thread), I suddenly feel, perhaps it's good that Jacky is leaving 183. Despite Jacky's talent in singing and all, he is not exactly popular and well, Ming Dao is clearly the focus of this band. Like all of you said, 183 is an 'idol' group and Jacky's talents will just go to waste in there. And also bcos 183 is an idol band and Jacky is not as popular as MD or SW, everytime they go on any variety shows or attend events, Jacky never gets the exposure he deserves. (Like how when they went to Medan the hosts only asked MD questions)

Soo... Yea if he actually gets to release an album of his own, perhaps he'll be really famous one day! I am hoping for the best for him

Anyway, I am pretty sure 183 club, with or without Jacky, will still be popular since most of the fanbase comes from MD and SW. So even if their album doesn't sound too nice, people will still buy it, regardless. Reviews from fans will still be good since fans tend to be biased.

Yep. This is my opinion and I hope I didn't offend anyone

ziai, I totally agree with you. 'Cause like someone said before. Maybe this is good for Jacky since he wants to be a "serious" artist, etc and only MD & SW are popular no matter how good Jacky sings. (Not blaming MD or SW since their acting rocks.) Yes, things will be rough for him with some people not accepting his image after all these but I hope he won't totally sink just 'cause of this. 'Cause he's going back to a company he's used to and all. So hopefully they'll promote him more for his singing, etc.

And yes, to some ppl - they won't care and will buy 183 Club album anyways. *shrugs* I hope it's already done and stuffs since that means Jacky'll still be in it. But *shrugs* whatever. If Jacky's not in the 2nd album, I'm not buying. Not going against 183 Club 'cause of their company's decision but those albums are kind of heavy on my pocket! (lol) Have to save for future stuffs. (I must confess that the only reason I bought AL 'cause Jacky sings in there. If not... )

i really sad
but i will always support him
and i agree with you all guys
i never wanna buy 183club album without jacky there
sorry to say that but the reason i like 183club
because jacky
so his not in that group anymore

jacky you're the best
mr sun will be regret this , he will , iam very sure

hi... first time here... popping in to share my take ...

sad, really sad that jacky's leaving... i never expected or even thought that such a thing would happen... i mean, what will 183 be without jacky, right? 183 is nothing without jacky's voice, i'm telling you!!! in a way, it's definitely a wrong decision...

but, for jacky, maybe it will be his chance to make it big as a solo artist.... good luck to him...

i hope that he will still preserve his ties with the other 183 guys, though... i know they have been very close...

still, i shall support jacky no matter what...

Tangerine manages their artistes much better than J-Star. Look at Sweety, look at Zhang Xin Yu, Chen Yi etc. They're all from Tangerine and the exposure they get is much higher than J-Star ppl while to me, some of them aren't as talented.
In Tangerine, Jacky can probably go solo like Chen Yi and 183 did raise his fan base a lot and gave him more exposure so his solo path will be easier.

I'm really happy for Jacky to leave J-Star and go Tangerine since I've never liked J-Star's management of their artistes.

oh well jungiery's loss because we all know its a fact that Jacky was the main it guy to carry all the ballads in 183Club so would hate to think of what they would sound like without him...I mean YR is good but come on one guy can't carry on the rest of everyone else's tune. Good thing to come out of it though is that his vocal talents wont be overshadowed anymore yay and oh yeah....he can date any girl in 7 flowers now too hahahahahaha...he's always had more appreciation for the girls and he's often voiced that when other guys in Jungiery complain about the girls anyhow. Like when MD stated that he was getting bored with constant 7 flower collaborations...behind the scenes...jacky was the one to speak up and say, "Hey! I like 7flowers!" So yay for him! He's making the best career move for himself!

Like this MV....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lt2gbyyK_jQ

XQ and Jacky so cute here!

AIYOH so sad to hear that bad news....really sad
I personally wont buy 183 club album anymore if without Jacky.
I like 183 club becos of Jacky. If he put from 183 Club, then would be nothing for me to support them. Hope Jacky future will become brighter and better in his new company.

I will support Jacky and 183, but I just feel so hurt and sad... I never expected anything like this to happen... But my biggest wish is that they will continue to cherish and maintain their close bond with each other because that is one of the things that I love most about them... I hope that they will be acting in some new dramas with each other... Jacky and 183 Jia You!!! We will always love and support you all!!!!

there is a news article about jk kick out in the Asian Entertainment News of AF

Jacky Zhu kicked out from 183 Club, Friday June 15, 2007 Taiwan
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/Jacky-Zhu-k...talk403119.html

Haha, i never thought of that! I wonder if Jacky liked any of the 7F girl in the past...
Now's the best time to court her since he's out of J-Star.

It would be a great thing if Jacky ends up dating a 7F member and they become steady. Afterall, this 2 years, 183 & 7F have a lot of collaboration and the members seem so close to each other. But maybe he's too much of a player to settle down yet.

This article I'm not too sure if it's all true although some elements are there. 'Cause they sounds so exaggerated and the "Liberty Times" is their "sister newspaper" so .

Ok so I finally heard the news that Jacky is out of 183. It's a shame for him to go cause he is the lead. It is more of a mutual decision because he was to be frozen but from Jacky's personality it is obvious that he is someone who does not want to held back. I think Jacky should of really thought it out though. Obviously, Hollywood stars does this ALL the time. They go clubbing, vacations, drinking, in public. However, he needs to stop using his American/Canadian attitude in Taiwan. This is a different market. Girls in the Asian countries dream of being w/ so and so. Sun Zhong gave him a chance, but he lost it himself. I don't there was any favoritism played this time. Jacky was the one who chose not to frozen and leave. The company is a bit stricter than others but one person can't bring down the image of the whole group. 183 club was always one group that I knew from the start that they will break up sooner or later. And know w/o Jacky is harder for them to gain on their singing career. But we can all live to learn to be w/o someone to still be successful.

It's not really the end of the world, Jacky is still back w/ Tangerine. If he has the talent, then he will succeed. For 183, they were always on their own thing anyways. Their singing career wasn't their strongest point to start off w/. Their voices aren't bad just not as good compared to Jacky's. In my opinion, I think they will continue w/ 4 ppl but won't last more than 2 albums.

Sun Zhong, I believe, did try to work things out. He obiviously knew that Jacky is important to the group. Each time any Jstar gets photographed they are to pay a fine, but Jacky's debt is too high that SZ just gave up. On my sports team, we had to release our best player cause he kept ditching and bench other girl for poor behavior. It's the same concept.

Wish them the best!

Yea, agreed it's not the end of the world, but just mad that some stuffs were "exaggerated". But I guess he had it coming since he "got caught". (Oh well. Too bad!)

Edited:

Wait, if Jacky's so like that, wouldn't his parents done something about it? I mean like "have a talk" with him. Yea, he's old enough and all those stuffs already, but isn't his dad quite strict? I'm wondering since "according the called news", his parents would had flipped by now. Like James' going to make it easy on him.

I thought of the same thing: why didn't his mom and dad say anything, why didn't James have a talk with him, etc. But he strikes me as one who has his own thought. I think his parents might have said something, his brother might have lectured him, but he still makes his own decision according to his own mind. If he thought it's not wrong to do what he did, then he would continue doing so, regardless what others said.

I don't think Jacky should pick Hollywood as an example. Someone like Paris Hilton or Lyndsay Lohan or someone with such scandal attached to his/her name wouldn't stay a day in Taiwan's entertainment business. Has to face it that Asian entertainment business is way different from American.

When Jacky refused to enter the freezer, I think he knew what was coming to him. And he still made that decision... that to me is saying that he's ready to leave. And although the road ahead of him would be uncertain, but it's his decision to walk it. I'm more concerned about the other four now... especially Yu Rong. Can you imagine being in his position? He wasn't the one who made that decision, but still, the burden of said decision fell on him the hardest. He had to be responsible being the lead singer and carry off 183 names in music world (well, the other three also got that presure, but YR's pressure would be biggest).

I think half of the stuffs are true w/ the paper but I somewhat don't believe to the that extent. I mean alhtough he was born in Canada (aka brought up in Western world) but come on, his parents will always maintain the Eastern way. I don't know if this is blown way too far or what. I know some friends who are born over and believe me - it doesn't matter if they're 20 0r 30, they'll get it over their heads IF ever they're doing stuffs like what the newspaper says Jacky are doing. (Applying lotion and & listening to music from the same mp3 player - I could believe that part but other stuffs just seems like - Huh?) Forgive me for being "naive" or whatever, but I swear if he's already to tihs extent, his parents must be really easy to let him do this or something. 'Cause didn't he actually cry or like had a little break-down at one of the concert when his dad actually attend and approve of him? His dad finally appropriate his singing and stuffs,why would he risk all the "playing around"? It just feels weird, that's all and doesn't add up. But whatever, I wasn't there so can't say. I'm just still pondering 'cause it's just too contradicting. *shrugs*

And I think whatever happen - just guessing - I think Jacky knew it was coming but he did it anyways 'cause he just wants out in a way. He isn't given any jobs. Although he does his job and help w/ coordinating music stuffs for performance (along w/ YR or so I heard) but the rest of the time he just has too much free time. And then his manager tells him to not do anythjing? Just too weird. In a way, he just want out so somehow he just didn't care if he got "caught" at the beach, etc. I swear if he's anymore frozen, he'll go backwards. He isn't in anything this year besides singing & stuffs. The rest of the team got in somewhere, including YR even if it's just guest star or whatever. But I'm just guessing so excuse my ignorance.

But I totally agree with you that YR's going to get the pressure now. But I think somewhat it's good for YR too since he's going to prove himself to us that he CAN sing w/ or w/o Jacky. (Which his solo songs rocks!) Don't want to talk too much about YR in here since it's Jacky thread so I'll leave at that.

i don't believe what's newspaper said about jacky
how come his still have good perform and have amazing voice
if his all the time clabbing, drinking and partying???????????
i don't think so ........
i think that newspaper just bluffing only
like before they said that jacky in hkg and some people said his in canada
but actually his still in taiwan
see people don't know about jacky
they just made up
so i don't believe some kind of story

omg!! i was really shocked when i heard about this news..
i'm not really fans of jacky, but quite suprise that sz made such a stupid desicion to kick jacky out from 183...
i don't understand why some ppl said that jacky shouldn't go clubbing so often or do those "western" act just because he's in taiwan entertainment circle which is different with western...but i notice that taiwan's lifestly is not that strict anyway...
look at news those female artist that got pregnant before marriage...such a ridiculous way to use the reason as lifestyle in east is different with west..
they are pretty much the same, it's just chinese tend to hide it, whereas those hollywood life, they don't really care that much...

i suppose is that is not whether it is in the western or eastern area... many of the artist also vist pubs and some even open their own pub. is just that SZ is really very very strict with his artist lifestyle. He doesnt want to see any of them getting into trouble and involve in all sorts of ugly headline.

omg!! is jacky really leaving 183club n jungiery? i still don't believe it
he is one of my fav singer, how about 183club if he left coz he is the lead singer.
i think must be bad for 183club without jacky, i hope sunzhong will regret his decision wor....

just want to share if all of you haven't hear his first album, here is the link http://www.haoting.com/musiclist/ht_04ebd1c296e450b5.htm

his song really nice, must hear lor....

I think that Jungiery is being too harsh on Jacky. They really should respect Jacky's life style because hes use to the American/Canadian ways. His ways maybe different from taiwan Stars but every artist needs to have their own style so they can make a name for themselves. Although the road ahead of Jacky is uncertain, I hope he is happier in Tangerine than he was in Jungiery. He has many fans that will be supporting him no matter what.

best of luck to Jacky.