I'm watching Dangerous Encounters now from ATV, and I'm getting annoyed by it, leaving me thinking about why ATV always seems to lose from TVB serieswise.

What do you think is their problems?

I'm listing a few here:

First, the most obvious one is the lack of skillfull actors. OK, there are some who are talented, but never make it big because of the further problems... (Even hiring renowned TVB-actors like Michael Tao.)

Problems:

They lack good script writers. OK, in the 90's they've leeched away from TVB and so they've created some good stories like Silver Tycoon and the more recent Flaming brothers, but then they lacked at:

Screenplay. The directors are very inexperienced and creates too unstable scenes.
This is especially noticable in dangerous encounter, where the camera shakes nonstop and jumps from angle to angle with strange compositions which gives a restless and even annoying feeling.

I thought "Dangerous Encounter" was quite good, even though a majority of the actors are unknown. But it's been a long time since I've seen a crime series where the personalities of the villains are such deeply described. In some of the stories, I nearly felt pity for some of the bad guys hehe, like the story about that "sik mo" guy who killed girls off the street. The viewers kind of get the picture of why he's getting mentally unstabile.

But I have to say most of the actors are not too talented, ugly too if I must say. So maybe that's a reason why ATV loses to TVB?

i think ATV lost to TVB cause of their poor control over the volume of the movie and the picture quality. Usually when i watch ATV series, i mostly get annoyed that their background music overpowers the people's voices making it hard to understand. as athlon have said the camera shakes a lot and pictures are blurry and not clear. I don't mind their actors/actresses as much. As long as they can act and does not look that horrible i could sit and watch.

mmm...bad scripts, bad directors, bad editing, bad quality.

not enough talented actors/actresses. only actress i watch from atv is joey meng.

ATV is cheap on their productions, The Miss Asia that they did was HORRIBLE... the winner got flowers and nothing else at the end lol....
And they lack actors/actresses , they have what ? Joey Meng, Crystal Tin, Lam Wai San , that's about it..
Compare to TVB they got Raymond Lam , Moses Chan , Roger Kwok , Bowie Lam, Jessica Hsuan, Gigi Lai , Charmaine etc...

sometimes atv got good story line but then they don't got good actresses and actors. every series they make they always uses like the same 4-5 actresses and actors. it's like they don't have enought people or something. it's also because of the background noises. it kinda annoyed me

i think soem of the storylines are ok but ill list what i dont like
cast, either too ugly or pretty gerl ugly guy, pretty guy ugly gerl.
then there are the scenes and the scenery, bug no no.
then outfits, i find that they look disturbing and ugly and wierd.
and speical effects added on to ancient series where they fly or whatever and when they have "special powers" makes it look sooo fake

They use the same actors and actresses in every series so it gets boring.....

hmm...multiple reasons...

-less fundings to make elaborate costumes, hire actors or screenwriters
-hasn't been around long enough
-unable to offer management plans like tvb (can't atract singers, etc.)
-are daring and try alot of ideas that tend to fail

i'm personally a tvb fan who always hopes that atv will improve. the sad thing is, when atv puts out a good series, it's REALLY good but when it's bad, it's REALLY bad. they can never be moderate.

at the same time, recently, tvb is always only moderately good. there are no surprises.

well
Problem #1: they use the same actors and actresses in all their series, and most of em are not as attractive as those in TVB.
Problem #2: their promotion sux, from my experience of watching both, i never seem to know the names of ATV actors and actresses WHEN they were in ATV, but they get popular as soon as they move to TVB.
Problem #3: i dunno what cause this problem, but their series look so old, maybe it's the color and the shooting, it seems like their series are still in the 80s. TVB's look much more modern

That's all i can think of as of now.

There are so many reason....the solid reason is the skillful from the actor + they face.....

lower budget for series
not enough promotion and advertisement for series
odd actors/actresses, they dont have that glamour look, but they look very distinctive.

i think that atv lose to tvb becaue they have lot of famous actor and not only that the the video i watch feels like there is something is missing ... but for tvb the storyline is good , lots of famous actors, and the video is really good

I think ATV lost to TVB is mostly of unfamous actors, and the unstable screening. For example, i did find Danger Encounter very good, but because of the unstable screening, it gives my sister and my mom a headache everytime they watch it. So they decide not to watch it at all. Even though the script was pretty good, but what the point if u can't even watch it.

i agree with everyone. atv has a lot of actors that we dont noe so we dont have any interest in watching the series. the directing doesnt seem to be as good as tvb. some of the shots in the series are really weird.

I agree in wat u guys have said. I think the best show ATV have produce was I Have A Date With Spring. This was the only which 1 love alot which i watch it around 10 years ago. If u compare the new show with that show, the quality was almost the same. The colour is very blur. Beside that the actor & acteress all dosent seems old at all. So if a 2001 show (I have a date with vampire 2) when u watch it now u will be thinking :"How long ago is show has beed release??". Hope u guys get wat i meant.

Agreed. Lack of skilful actors and actresses. But even thn, they have hired some really good actors from TVB!

Another reason i dontl like to watch ATv is because of the screen quality. I always find the scene colour are always very dull..more yellowish as though the scene was set in the early years.

lack of actors/actresses... not even skillful. u could see 5 ATV series and u would most likely see the SAME actors/actresses in it. they do hav skillful actors/actresses but they all eventually leave ATV because nobody remembers them. like joey leung and michael tao. the people that play smaller parts are also not so great looking and acting isnt that good. unlike tvb, they promote new stars that if they dont look good, they're not ugly. (cant say they're pretty cause i think some of the girls they promote are not that good looking)

lack of story lines. their scripts are very stupid sometimes. my date with a vampire had good ratings. second one, "ok.. a sequel? sure.." then a third one "do u really gotta keep making it till no one watches it anymore?" they also copy TVB's storyline a lot like HEALING HANDS they had that "Hap Gwut Yun Sum".

lack of quality in the series. the coloring is like horrible. its like dark and old looking.. compared to tvb's bright colorful and eye-catchy display, it sucks butt.

lack of fame. they are just not as famous as TVB. they started out bad and thats how it gonna continue.

because ATV make the serie very boring to much episode the most was 100epi after that they would do the 2 of the serie and that would be borin and the actor/actress is not that good like TVB.TVB do some funny and they have good actors

bad film, i should say, ATV films make me feel of old days, the last time that local station in Malaysia purchase ATV series is like few years ago,

i think they should make something like English Series, i don't expect some CSI in there, but those series do sell well

how about reality tv series? i hope they used good film

mitodna

I agree with most here. I couldn't watch 1 eps of Dream Named Desire II. I like the plot and actors. But The directing and screenplay was terrible. Nothing the character had to say was interesting and they were very annoying. All I can remember was alot of giggling from the female characters in the beginning.

People said 'Snow is red' was good. But I hated the Main guy and it nothing compare to TVB better series.

Think for ATV to become better. They need completely improve on directing, screenplay and actors

I agree with you guys. I've tried watching some ATV stuff...and I just couldn't bring myself to like it. The screenplay/directing is so different from TVB stuff as well. Like in Dangerous Encounters, some camera angles are so...ineffective, I guess? I found the storylines kind of dragging sometimes too. T_T

i think atv loses to tvb because of it's bad quality... i think once ppl take a look at the quality of the show and see the colors that look like its from the olden days and the lack of excitement and action in the show, ppl will be turned away from it.. at least thats how i feel whenever i attempt to watch an atv show

they should learn from tvb

hopefuly atv can improve so we can more cantonese shows to watch in addition to the ones tvb produces

I think ATV loses to TVB, because of the production quality, the script and the most important I think it's the skillfull of the actors (sorry to say but they're really bad), they're not natural, they just follow the script and there isn't any face expressions...Whereas, on TVB we can see more faces (news and young actors/actresses), they seem to have more energy, more skillfull, more and more....

I think ATV loses to TVB because of the scripts. ATV's actors were not as good as those in TVB. And I heard that they dont really act anymore, they just buy script from china and put it on ATV. And TVB always has new people, and they are more skillful.

yeah i agree wiht most people here. ATV just dont have the actors nor the scrips ... and maybe because of their low budget. They seem so fake .... but the thing that really annoys me is that u dont really know any actors there so hence making me lost interest

I think ATV loses to TVB because of the lower budget, boring scripts (way too long) and less good and attractive actors. It's hard to identify yourself with the characters making it less exciting and interesting to watch...

Thats easy they dont got good actors/actresses or good lookin ones like raymond Lam tavia yeung ron ng leila tong so like yea that makes them lose besides me and mi mom were watchin sumthin from atv and we like almost fell asleep in the begining it was borin so mi mom asumed it would be more excitin towards the end but like we watch the whole thing and i almost fell asleep that was hoe borin it was..

i really agree with u. i don't know ATV. what 's it?!?

ATV=Asian television, with TVB they are the 2 main broadcasting channels in HK. Did you see My date with a vampire? That's an ATV production. TVB is more popular then ATV and also have the most viewers in HK.

I wonder how ATV keep getting enough money to 'stay alive'.. TVB has more income from commercials? I doubt it..

atv backgrounds and props are just way 2 fake in some series...and they aren't promoting enuf new actors....u ukeep cing the same ones, and they almost always have similar plots in all their series....they're also too long sometimes...and its so annoying to watch because there isn't a lotta good coordination

i believe ATV pays alot of money for the actors/actress but it seems like they dont do much promotions n its not that attractive .....n TVB is very known by people because it does alot of promotion in letting people know what shows are up n showing more new faces of characters n it gives alot of chances for people too

ATV is not that bad, others can be worst. I guess its the picture quality to me.

...well,
if you're Vietnamese, the fact that the voiceover sounds really bad would be an automatic turnoff..

I wasn't sure whether or not to respond to this topic, because I'm one of those people who doesn't really agree to the original claim...but I really want to express my view.

I don't think ATV loses to TVB at all. Yes, I admit TVB often has better props, etc, but very rarely have I seen a good ending. A good ending to me is worth a lot in a series, because I believe it is necessary to close what one has started. No matter how good, how extravagant your storyline is, a bad ending is discrediting to the whole movie. In this aspect, ATV is better. ATV series like "Burning Rain" and "Heaven's Retribution" have endings that will make you continue pondering about it, even after you finished watching it. The endings aren't "dead ends". ATV leaves the audience to interpret what happens. This type of ending is more successful in that people won't just watch a movie and forget about it--instead, it leaves a very deep impression in your mind. Sometimes (not always), TVB seems to stick a conclusion in just to end the story because it was getting too long.

Many commented on how ATV has bad actors/actresses. I will defend for them to the day of my grave. ' I hear, "poor acting skills." I hear, "same people acting in movies." Have you considered, why even though there are reoccurring actors/actresses, ATV was still popular (obviously not in this thread)? I will not comment on opinions about how they are "bad" looking, because beauty is so subjective. But acting skills? Just 'great' is disrespectful to their abilities! Yes, you can say they are similiar staff in many series, but the roles they play are completely different! Yet, they are able to bring out each personality so naturally! For instance, Michelle Ng has played as a vixen, a graceful lady, a country girl with permanant sickness, but is entirely convincing in either roles. Many ATV actors possess the same kind of talent, allowing viewers to really test their skills. Is it fair to judge by keeping track of how many times they appear, rather than how well they do in each time?

I can't talk about the new ATV series, but I do believe their older ones are very good. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and since I'm obviously outnumbered, I didn't dare to think I'll really convince anyone. Just needed to say it. If I offended someone by doing so, know that it wasn't my intention.

I think tvb has produced alot mroe better series than atv and also tvb adverstised their brand alot better

i think ATV loses from TVB because tvb has more series with HK actors and ATV has more from the mainland, korea singapore etc and they need to dub it.. that makes the series more horrible to watch IMO

ATV series can be great too, for example love in a miracle. In my place, few people have heard of ATV because the channels normally show TVB series. I think that's why TVB series are more popular.

I guess TVB is just way more popular... n has been since a long time ago. I guess people usually stick to what's popular n common.. then it becomes less likely for them to suddenly watch something else?

I think it's all about the money, in this business you can buy anything what you are lacking. (actors scriptwriters scenery)

I think its cause of the actors cause well to me i think that the TVB actors/actresses are more well-known which means that most likely, viewers will choose to watch TVB stuff over ATV which leads to TVB making more money than ATV.

I agree with most people here. ATV's directors seem very inexperienced. Their make-up arist I think is incomparable to TVB. Also their plots aren't as good, and I personally think that most of TVB's actors/actresses are better than ATV's.

I think ATV didn't have a lot of promotions about its upcoming series. This is why ATV always has bad ratings

Tvb has more artists, more money, more creative.
Atv's series most of them are so boring, but there's a few that's good such as My date with a vampire

Atv has very little crews and their series aren't as interesting as tvb's

Atv has very little money cause not much ppl in Hk watch their series so they don't earn much.

Tvb has more crews and money, and most Hk ppl like this company and prefer to watch their shows

ATV lose to TVB becus of the control system. They dunt haf the budget that TVB have. ATV the show and movie you watch the colors isn't that perfect and colorful compare to TVB. ATV should make more movie and film better movies or else they would actgaully one day close up.

TVB is always promoting their series so it gets people's attention and they are aware of who's in it and storylines. when the audience it accustomed to a series they are more prone to watch it and enjoy it .

ATV's quality in production always looks so grainy... their sets, costumes, everything. Also, I agree with others here that they don't do another promotion. Most of the time I'm not even aware they have any new exciting series.

yeah really atv should do something, soon vb is going to conquer the hk channels

Hasn't TVB already conquered all the HK channels? I'm surprised they still exist actually. The were behind already when I was in Hong Kong, and that was 10 years ago.

The large series that ATV presents aren't the problem here, as those series are promoted well. It's the smaller series that suck ass.

ATV also barely ever records a meaningful soundtrack for it's series, and music is very important to the comfort of watching a series.

bad quality, bad actors, bad script
somehow it looks so boring, problems with lights maybe

it is simply bad things in "synergy"..make things worse...
bad actors (but some were really good actually)..
bad scripts...with some really lame lines..and a very boring plot...very very slow
bad...technology??

it's just suprising to know that they were the ones who came out with some really good series in the past...
flaming brothers..i have a date with spring..

and now...their standard just dropped..