Okay, I know that I'm wishing too much for them two to get together but I can't help myself.
I just have to let my mind run wild with my own speculations of Ming dao and Qiao En. My wishful thinking is getting the best of me with these two.

After seeing all these new photos of them I just have to say it. I can't hold it any longer.
I know that these photos aren't recently and new but I have never seen it before so it's new to me.

One thing I do need to know is that:
Are these photos taken before the making of Prince Who Turns Into A Frog or after the premiere?
If it's after the collaboration of the series then something is seriously going on between them.
I believe that there are feelings, strong feelings between Qiao En and Ming Dao. I'm sure there is because looking at those photos it says it all. They like each other so much. I don't believe it's all an act anymore.
There's so much there now. I can see it. Ming dao does have feelings for her. It's hard not to believe there's anything going on.


All the signs are all there. Qiao En doesn't look like the type of girl to let a colleague touch her, kiss her, and hold her hand in front of millions of people if the feelings in there. Ming Dao as well. He did a film with others too but was he like that to them like how he's to Qiao En--I doubt it. I bet that guy--what's his name of the J-Star? Sun Zhong can see it too since everyone sees it. He sees the feelings being exchange between Qiao En and Ming dao. He can sense that something much more than is going on and since it's been know that Jungiery doesn't allow the fellow mate to date each other he has to put a stop to it. He probably knew that it's getting serious with Ming Dao and Qiao En that he threaten them. Not threaten but you guys know what I mean. He told them to stop with the flirting and everything else that they both part ways.
I mean it's obvious because--okay they were all touchy-touchy, holding hands, constantly standing next to each other--glazing into each other's eyes. Everything was good until bamm---the kiss and everything just go downhill from there. Things became complicated or at least to me it is. Qiao En's confused. She knows they're not allow to date but Ming Dao does something like that and made her wonder "Is there a possiblity?But we can't date. Why did he do that for?" It's prbably because of the kiss that SunZhong is furious with them two.

They didn't want to freeze their career yet. Actually, I think Qiao En probably will risk it all for love but Ming dao--he's still young both are. So realizing that Ming Dao probably will choose his career first, Qiao En moved on just like how everyone's been saying she did. And now they're both at the end of the cross road but not crossing path because neither one of them wants to do anything because of pride or so I think.
All those gestures made between Qiao En and Ming dao made me realize that something was going on between them and still is but being in the same company they can't act upon those feelings so they had to set it aside and move on. Aww, that's sad but I'll keep praying.

You know what? I'll go watch all their promotions together, re-watch Prince turns into a frog, concerts together, anything that has 7Flower & 183 Club together and see both their gestures towards one another maybe I might be able to come up with more theory and hopefully one could be the right one.

JCQE...thanks for all the pics u posted...

reading all your theories makes me wonder about the possibilities...i mean, its been quite a while since Wang zi but still the buzz over them can't seem to die....i have to admit i am a mingen shipper...i guess, ne of the reasons why a lot of people think there is something between them is the "look" they have for each other....and the little gestures that they do....

to greenbutterfly, it's after. IMHO, it's better to watch the clips chronologically to see the changes...

to selita03: an online friend from taiwan gave me access to her photo album. there's a lot of photos in her album.
there's MUCH BETTER photos, but i could not put it up here as it belongs to some fan clubs. so just make do with the ones i posted. i'll continue to see what else can i put up here.
i'm SO tempted to put photos of mingen interactions on 183concert, the way md looks at her... and got one picture, i really don't know where mingdao is looking at her*blush* (din get my pt? notice where is he looking at ard 1.40 in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQfekIcxJWw...E9%81%93%20%20)
please, sb find a clip or pic where he look at other gers in the same way. stop my delusion that he only look at her tt way.


there's a saying in chinese that may describe their relationship pretty well: more than friends, not yet lovers. (the fourth type of love)

i have no idea whether they are a couple, and both of them are not the conventional 'super pretty/handsome' faces, yet they look just RIGHT with each other. no matter what, they make me believe that they are truly in love in WZBQW, and they love without conditions.

for newcomers: this is also a must see mingen clip, so sweet man.
during gao xiong promotion.this is called couple's behaviour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja74Dp04Omk...ingdao%20qiaoen

ps: 1) i bet nobody notice the change of mingdao's expression after sun zhong whispered in his ears.
2) i could post videos links here rite??

After seeing the old photos and reading your comments...I came up with my own conclusion It's very simple actually Both MD and QE falls in love during the filming of PTTF and still very much in love with each other when he kissed her in 183 recent concert. I'm sure the 'Aussie' bf and 'backstage worker' gf are just a camoflouge. These people probably do exist but their relationships are not As Xingzhu said they can't date each other publicly but what happen offstage SZ can't control...I'm sure MD had this sudden urge to kiss QE onstage as if to let people know that "She's mine" kind of thing and he can easily cover it up as 'acting'..That's y after the kiss, QE looked more horrified than shocked cos she didn't know how to handle the situation and she panicked If there's truly nothing going on between them she probably knock his head off and then laugh about it

she won't knock his head off on stage...it's his 1st concert....
perhaps she kicked him after the concert...who knows?

lxandra,

I totally, totally agree with you

hahaz.. have to agree wif you on some points... and it reminds me tat md did hold onto qe hand aft the kiss..
i'm not sure if he 'squeeze' it.. but if he did.. it might lead us to something more? but why hold hand aft
the kiss?


JCQE.. for your last video link you gave.. when did sun zhong came in??? i couldnt find it.. or was it the other clip you mean?

I am so loving this pics. Thanks JCQE for your effort to find the pics and post it here.

I really wish they could be together for real. Their looks for each other are the looks of people who are in love.

Oh yes, what is he LOOKING at?I really wonder?? Naughty MD

Is it possible that they are dating secretly?

hey guys! i made a new MV for mingEn.. but there are mainly graphics of the scenes in wzbqw =)
hope u all like it. though some of the pictures don't really mix with the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohlhkn-GqCI

arrr..... anywayz, i think, think. QE definitely liked MD before, or is still. Even if its not "like", there are feelings!! hahaz. just thought that since all of us think they do have feelings for each other. there are bound to be some "evidence" lo... hahaz

Wow good observation JCQE!! I also notice the youtube video tat you mentioned ard 1.40. Mingdao indeed was looking at somebody. I doubt he is looking at yurong or xiao jie. I wondered, is he looking at his fans? or his secret lover was hidden among the fans. lol

JCQE: i found this pic here at the gallery.. the way he look at XB eyes is like oni 70 to 80 percent of how he look at TY..


hmm.. it reminds me of something.. qe now is hosting MAO XIAN qi bing rite?
years back.. md hosted MAO XIAN wang..
why is it so coincidental? is this wat call fate? both oso mao xian one..
and.. Selina fr SHE star in this drama 'zhen ming tian nu' and at the same
time, her rumoured bf, Show, has this song called 'zhen ming tian zi' in his
latest album at that time...
so... ... ... ... are they fated??? sry.. was dreaming..

To : sotong
hmm the pic tat you attached is not seen. Maybe u try to upload again? hehe, thx

http://asianfanatics.net/gallery/index.php...&pid=178773

i tink tis will be better bah.. because my com kinda don't let me
log to photobucket......

to selita: i thought in tt clip, md's looking at a certain body part?

to sotong:
i'll tell u sth more coincidential. when md's hosting maoxianwang, qiaoen's hosting 'zhong guo na me da' at the same time.(she hosted the show half a year earlier than him). it is similar as mao xian wang, just that the focus is on china only. her hosting style is the same as mingdao.
both of them gone through hell when hosting, yet they both met interesting people who said and do things that changed their perspectives of life. (qiaoen went back recently to host a few episodes)


you wan comparison? i'll show you comparison.

wang zi bian qing wa



ai qing mo fa shi

It's a pretty simple comparison, during promos with QiaoEn, MingDao often likes to get close to her or stand by her even if their not anywhere close to each other he'll somehow pull her over

ex. http://youtube.com/watch?v=NDsmu0I7E_4

while doing other promos with other girls, he doesn't seem to care where he stands or care who's beside him.

Who knows whats between them, we can just hope that they are together (I'd rather them date privately and not let anyone know because if we do find out, it could jeopardize their careers which are at a high right now)

Anyhow that's my opinion (:

i agree with you there somehow they're always standing next to each other i'm not sure if its suppose to be like that or not

I agree; if they are indeed dating, it is better to be in secret, else it will jeopardise their careers and then we will feel sad for them too.

Can anyone tell me if other Taiwanese stars also kiss their fellow colleagues so many times during promotions? I have been thinking even folks at Hollywood don't kiss their co-stars during promotions. In youtube, I saw several clips that show MD and QE kissed. They can't be so open that they just kiss someone they don't love bah... and so many times too.

Call me crazy but I just cried watching Mingen clips. I dont know why...It really touches me seeing them together, with love shown all over their face and yet something is making them part.

Anyway is there any clips about MD with other female leads he's with?

A)
IMPT:
this is the clip of a fan took on 183 18th june concert(the 2nd one), where 183 and 7F sings 'hao ai ta, hao xiang ta'. isn't qiaoen supposed to be angry at mingdao for kissing her at on the 1st concert?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqQB1i3htGE...%83%E6%9C%B5%3F

start observing the above clip from 3.25... i caught several things...
3 in particular are very impt observations... see if you all see the same thing as me or not...


see the clip before you see my observations:
1)ain't md's eyes tired from keep looking deeply at qiaoen's eyes? i wonder if taiwan encountered blackout that nite...
2)at ard 3.50, he held her hand AND not only held it, he ran his thumb over the back of her hand...
3) at the end of the song, i have no idea why mingdao is smiling cheekily, and qiaoen used the flower he gave her to hit his head.
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B ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kww2q6ZpMu0...ub%20concert%20
this is the kiss part... qiaoen's expression is priceless man... she even stomped her feet when he's about to kiss her...

Ok I have see the clip. Thanks JCQE. Hmmmmm???? How should I say this?Totally focusing on QE. If there is nothing is going on he doesn't have to rub QE's hand.

And is the kiss after or before they sing Hao Ai Ta Hao Xiang Ta?

I'm watching the kiss clip and I notice that MD is rubbing Qe's hand again it is around 0.20sec. Is it a habit for him?

OMG.. This clip is awesome. The way MD loked at QE near the end of the song was like he was trying to pass her a message lor. And the way QE took the flowers and knock he's head gently with it was so loving...
Ai.. Just when I got over the kiss a month ago, there come this clip that got me high on MD and QE again xDD

hahaz!! those clips made mmy day man.... thx JCQE!! lolx. i looked and really think MD looked really dreamy. like any moment he's going to tell QE "i love u" heex. they are very intimate too, like the way he looked at her, and the way he rubbed her hands. i think he did something like tt during 7F signing sessions too. During one of them.. i go see if i can find. im quite sure, cos i replayed the clip abt 3 times.. and saw MD kind of rubbed QE hands as they walked to the side of the stage.

I second that... the clip is awesomeeeee... the way he teased her by taking the flower and then giving it back to her later on along with that smile and smoldering eyes...

Yes I also like that part where he playfully play with the flower.I really love it. And yes he could anytime say I love you. Maybe it is a habit of him to rub QE's hand.As JCQE said its a couple habit.hehehe...so sweet

Vicki2707, me too I was about to get past Mingen. But they made me hooked up again.

Oh my god, I cant resist myself to thinking of them, they are the cutes couple that I have known.
It seems MingDao is just only for QE. They are the only Taiwanese couple that I had fall in love for.
I do believed that they must in love with each other, no doubt. Their eye, their action and the way they smile to each other express it all.

thanks JCQE for sharing the video...

that was awesome!!! .. MD and QE looked like they were the only people in the world.... .. MD's gaze to QE could melt even the strongest metal... haha... they are really match made in heaven...

it means that even SZ tries to separate the two, .. circumstances will always draw them together... that is fate/destiny... i hope and pray that these two will eventually be together (in real life)..

i hope and will even pray harder that their company (the people who made this rules) will realize not to be selfish and be considerate to the feelings of their people, and LET MD & QE BE TOGETHER...

qiaoen's new show's pic.





ps: both of them have been looking very good recently.... okie, a bit crappy...
(i notice that qiaoen kept wearing the lock pendant this year...)

WOW i got to watch the video and i was mesmerize by the way MD looks at QE. it was so cute. he looks so cute and loving. it is like he is only noticing her and they were in their own little world. and the way he smile it seem like a smile for her only. it was so cute. i wish i get to see QE reaction. that would be even better. but just only seeing MD looks...awww makes me drool

to vic91285, if you want to see more of mingdao's electrifying eyes working at their full strength, make sure qiaoen is ard.

I love the way when Mingdao kept staring at her while singing.
He seems like he didnt want to look at anything else except Qiaoen's eyes..
Mingdao just look like an innoccent boy falling in love for the first time...
And the way he smiled when Qioen hit her lightly withthe flower...so innoccent!!

woah! wasnt here for 1 day and so many news...
JCQE.. u really do noe how to find videos.....
the part where MD took ova the flower, i got the msg
that he wanted to hold onto QE hand because her both
hand was like occupied..

is the lock pendant given to her by some1? hu could it be?

This really made my day. I would be hard pressed to believe they WEREN'T in love.

And I bet that lock means something. <3

oh my gosh....that was the best clip ever.....gosh i am back to the mingen days..... they are truely a magical couple....other couples just act and have chemistry during the filming and promotion but these two goes on and on and never stop....gosh just love them....ming dao's eyes are not acting in those clips he is showing his true feelins to charming qiao en.....thanks agian for the clip it made my day....

does the lock pendant mean something to her....OMG so sweet...the way they look at each other....Even though i cnat see QE's eyes LOL

I think Mingdao and QiaoEn would make a cute couple in real life. They have great chemistry in the Prince turned into frog series. QiaoEn look pretty young even though she is 27. Also, she does look good with zhiqian in that series as well.

I really never get tired of watching that video. Those sweet moments never fails to perks up my day...

Oh I wish that somebody from the their industry will heed our call and let MD & QE be paired-up again in a series (ofcourse SZ must not interfere )

liu fu chun concert
=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DetxcDSkdpg&search=mingen

p.s. i dunno if this video has been posted but just wanna share it with you all...
its really cute... mingdao shouted something when jacky hold onto QE hand...

Yeah I've seen that clip before. What did he say? MD also tried to kiss Xiao Jie is it?
I find it very funny. Juz bcoz Jacky held qe's hand so he wanted to kiss Xiao Jie too. Jealous??hehehehe...

Hi to everyone!

JCQE, i was so excited to see the link that you sent earlier about that electrifying eye contact between MD and QE in the 183club's concert. but i don't know what the problem is with my youtube...i can't seem to go more than 22secs into the video then it stops. i've been trying for 2 days already and it still aint working. would you know other sites that has the video? I'm so envious of everyone since most of you guys had already seen it..please help me...i'm dying to see QE and MD! and that electrifying eyes!

to Aliysa:
he shouted "NO!" and i think tt was not xiao jie he attempted to kiss..
it was xiao qiao i think... and jacky was funny enuf to ask ' chen mama..,
like this can anot' haha... i was rolling on the floor when he said this..

woh.. today this forum not really working.. i muz kip on pressing
refreash...... finally can read some of he comments here... kekez.....

sad sad tat i cant play my com till nxt sat... save some news for me yeah!..

OMG, thanks for sharing that video clip....so funny...MD shouts "no" whn Jacky hold QE's hand...I think jacky even looks at MD too.....and at the end MD tries to kiss XQ....mean something yed

to yukibabe: sent you a private msg.

i duno how the pendant meant to her.

that vid is uploaded by me...haha. actually, there's some parts missing from that vid also. at one moment, qiaoen and jacky waved to her mum, then they asked mingdao to wave to her as well. qiaoen's mum like mingdao. qiaoen say her mum used the excuse to visit her on the set of wang zi to see mingdao. haha.
actaully, the main thing in this clip is that qiaoen started avoiding mingdao in this promo. actually, i got some pics of this promo, but i forgot where i put it already... blur...

today got one news a bit related to mingdao. he had a rumor with a 16 yr old co-star, then the co-start received interview yesterday. she said that she never contact mingdao, she wished to keep a distance from guys who had girlfriend. i duno if she meant mingdao not. (because still got mention another guy)

to sotong, rarely see you recently leh...haha. don't worry, there'll sure be news. 183's gg a several shows next week, then some hosts are rather close to qiaoen(doted her a lot), if there's sth... who knows, they may ask him abt the kiss on the concert!

can you guys do me a big favor and translate some of these youtube videos of PTTF and other MD/QE related stuff? i would appreciate it so much! thanks!

it doesn't have to be word for word translation, the jist of it would be fine. whatever is more convenient for you guys. thanks!

cut scene from ch. 17:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RNNWwpur7S8&search=wzbqw

cut scene from ch. 19:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GIcAYR7r5R8&search=wzbqw

183 club talking about kissing scenes between MD & QE:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M0htUBssC5A

thanks a bunch!

this is my first time posting in this forum so hello all! i just want to say how enjoyable it is to read all of your comments and see you guys posting pictures of our beloved couple!

you know what we should do! we should do an online petition for MD & QE to star in another series together. i wouldn't want a sequel to PTTF but a different story for them. hopefully a more passionate, deep, "real" kiss this time. teeeheee.

have a great day guys!

I don't think they will. You realise that there's never much rumors about MD and QE before? Its mainly because of Sun Zhong being really strict I think, so the crew and all that under SETTV wouldn't spread such news cuz its too dangerous to offend him.
The rumours of MD and SW with other ppl are usually leaked out by the girl's side one lor.

Jungiery is actually really strict and they definitely won't allow the hosts to ask about rumors, especially since everyone know about the Jungiery no dating between shi xiong shi mei rule. If you notice, all jungiery stars seldom ever get asked about their rumours much on-screen. Jungiery won't allow it lor.

I heard before that managers often give a list of stuff to the interviewers about what they can talk about on-screen. And Jungiery usually stay clear of relationships.

to vicki2707: yes, normally pp steer clear of the jungiery's rumour. because they can't afford to offend sun zhong( it's their culture to be respectful to seniors)...
but... jacky wu's one of the hosts of the shows 183are gg to attend.
he doesn't give a hoot about sun zhong.
if he want to ask, he'll ask. if he doesn't want to, he won. for eg, a female band went on promos recently, and all other hosts asked abt one of the ger's rumour with a famous male artiste.(pp suspected it's the band manager's idea, to promote the ger) only him doesn't mention anything abt it.


to greensunflower: i have one question. why don't you watch the serial with english subtitles? isn't it easier?

this person have uploaded some with english subtitleshttp://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=apdy&page=12 ,

or you can try looking for those clips with a 'U' logo at the top right hand corner of the scenes. these have eng subtitles as well. eg:
Confessions at the Rooftop
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HOe4i7KqOUw&...%9D%92%E8%9B%99

i remembered in the past have pp uploaded the whole series onto youtube. but i thk their accounts were suspended and vids are lost.



for the 183 on GGBBM
kang ge:md and qe got kissing scenes, how do you thk abt it? gd or bad?

xingshu(XS): in the beginning, we all consoled him. because qe's the type of ger who'll tell jokes, more hyper, doesn't really behaved like a ger.
normally, in idol dramas, it feels like you'll be kissing gentle/romantic gers. so in the beginning, we'll say, be mentally prepared.

kange(to MD): then how do you feel? do you feel tt it's a chore?

XS:when he went into the drama, it's ok

jacky:no. after he saw qiaoen wears bikini...

all: jungiery's pride!

md: it really affected me strangely. when we were shooting normal scenes, it's ok.
but when there' kissing scene, i'm more of a shy guy, you ask me to kiss her, i'll feel very embarrassed. plus, when i get close to her, initially, it's very romantic, then i'll thk of her (he did the super big action):'aiyo, don't be like tt!'... she's cute, more of a natural person... but when you thought of that, there's the obstacle. you'll stop for a while. since her bikini scene, duno if you'll have notice (a chg of face expression), to all bra-manufacturer: D-cup figure.
(md narrated) since after tt bikini scene, qe said to him: md, you treats me a bit better recently leh. md:really?! qe:yah, and not only you, last time 183 said i'm jungiery's pride, now everybody will smile to her, even taiji and kone will call her qiaoen jie(sister).

XS: her position in the company were here(very low), no because of the 'pride', it has risen(till very high)

forgive the language.

But still, I won't place high hopes on MD and QE kiss being asked. Jungiery played it down to it being a performance didn't they? And the news reports reported it that way, so its not likely for the hosts to know much about 183 concert's kiss's behind the scenes stuff anyway.

What girl band are you talking about? I don't like ppl who make use of rumours with more famous ppl to promote their own sales and all that lor. I mean, can't you get famous by your own talent? If you can't, then you aren't cut out for the entertainment circle. Its really underhand to keep using rumours to promote urself or let ppl have wrong impressions.
Which is why I kindof like the fact that Jungiery tries to stay clear of discussing any rumors in shows.

yap...i din put high hopes on it too...but it's a possibility given that there're too much strange things happening recently...

i do not wish to name the girl band... all i can say is that the girl band has 2 members. both of them are rather active in idol dramas. guess it yourself. haha.

JCQE: i'm already done watching the series. and i know there's eps with english subtitles but these are the scenes taht were cut so there are no english subtitles. but thank you so much for helping me out by translating! you'are awesome

they really a cute couple in the series ' when prince turn into frog'.. i also like them too.. but this is only in the series. but to be honest i dont really like her lol.. ming dao can find better