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tuyen
Gillian seems like a damsel in distress and all she needs is Gold Label or another record company to come and rescue her from EEG/Mani. If only that would happen, but I guess only time will tell. Maybe if her solo song was fantastic and shows a lot of potential for her vocals, lyrics writing, composing, and producing then there's maybe a chance that another label will want her. I just don't want Gil to end up frozen until her contract ends, and by then, she'll probably leave the entertainment circle. And that's even worse because other people won't see that she's not just a pretty face and talentless, she does have talent, she just needs the opportunity. And that would most likely never happen if she stays in EEG. But if she stays, we'll still support her, if she leaves, we'll DEFINITELY support her.
Shortyyy126
laugh.gif what's all this about changing her company? i doubt that it'll happen anytime soon in the coming years. eeg was what made her who she is today. even if she desires to change companies, i doubt eeg would let her go that easily. as cruel as they are, they'd probably crush her popularity before she'd even stepped a foot away from their threshold. rolleyes.gif also, i assume that paying for a contract to end earlier would cost her a fortune. i know that applies for your phone contracts as well. laugh.gif it'll probably be the cost of your phone contract times a thousand. dry.gif and i doubt gillian can afford to fork up all that cash. she might seem rich, but my theory is, she really isn't dued to numerous reasons. lol.

but really, i can't exactly imagine gillian going to another company. seems like with eeg, she can get more promotion and exposure (though they're quite unjust. lol) but i guess if eeg was a real asshole, then it's perfectly normal and understandable that gillian says "f u, eeg" and leave for the better. laugh.gif

btw, i heard that twins had a 10 year contract. hmm i wonder if they had to sign contracts under the name of TWINS. if so, then wouldn't they need to stay as TWINS until the 10 year was up? doesn't EEG has to compensate if they go against the contract? laugh.gif or maybe they had separate contracts under their own name. hmmm........ well i'm not even going to bother with this problem anymore, i'm not even the tiniest bit educated with law. laugh.gif
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 3 2006 9 40 PM) [snapback]2364584[/snapback]

laugh.gif what's all this about changing her company? i doubt that it'll happen anytime soon in the coming years. eeg was what made her who she is today. even if she desires to change companies, i doubt eeg would let her go that easily. as cruel as they are, they'd probably crush her popularity before she'd even stepped a foot away from their threshold. rolleyes.gif also, i assume that paying for a contract to end earlier would cost her a fortune. i know that applies for your phone contracts as well. laugh.gif it'll probably be the cost of your phone contract times a thousand. dry.gif and i doubt gillian can afford to fork up all that cash. she might seem rich, but my theory is, she really isn't dued to numerous reasons. lol.

but really, i can't exactly imagine gillian going to another company. seems like with eeg, she can get more promotion and exposure (though they're quite unjust. lol) but i guess if eeg was a real asshole, then it's perfectly normal and understandable that gillian says "f u, eeg" and leave for the better. laugh.gif

btw, i heard that twins had a 10 year contract. hmm i wonder if they had to sign contracts under the name of TWINS. if so, then wouldn't they need to stay as TWINS until the 10 year was up? doesn't EEG has to compensate if they go against the contract? laugh.gif or maybe they had separate contracts under their own name. hmmm........ well i'm not even going to bother with this problem anymore, i'm not even the tiniest bit educated with law. laugh.gif

I think we just all got into thinking that it would be nicer for Gillian if she was able to continue her career under a different company than EEG, seeing how bad they treat her, so that's where all the discussions about changing companies came from. laugh.gif

I'm pretty sure Gillian and Charlene each have an individual contract that they signed to become an EEG artiste because Twins didn't begin right when they signed EEG. It was after a bit of planning that Twins was decided to be formed, and Gillian and Charlene were already artistes of EEG before that. They do have a contract that they signed afterwards for the name of 'Twins', I believe, because Twins have mentioned of the experience of signing the contract together. EEG has expressed that earlier that everything signed with the name 'Twins' will actually expire when 2007 hits. That's why all the rumours of the disband surfaced so roughly this year, and we do have reasons to believe that the disband could happen.
wky213
when is she coming to america?
Shortyyy126
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 4 2006 12 09 AM) [snapback]2364718[/snapback]

I think we just all got into thinking that it would be nicer for Gillian if she was able to continue her career under a different company than EEG, seeing how bad they treat her, so that's where all the discussions about changing companies came from. laugh.gif

I'm pretty sure Gillian and Charlene each have an individual contract that they signed to become an EEG artiste because Twins didn't begin right when they signed EEG. It was after a bit of planning that Twins was decided to be formed, and Gillian and Charlene were already artistes of EEG before that. They do have a contract that they signed afterwards for the name of 'Twins', I believe, because Twins have mentioned of the experience of signing the contract together. EEG has expressed that earlier that everything signed with the name 'Twins' will actually expire when 2007 hits. That's why all the rumours of the disband surfaced so roughly this year, and we do have reasons to believe that the disband could happen.



lol. yea it's great to imagine how gillian would hold an uprise if she went to another company. laugh.gif i think that it's very much possible for gillian to become a better singer if she was signed under gold label. i think they'd want her to take singing lessons more so than take on movie roles. afterall, they're mostly a music based company. cool.gif

ah... well that cleared up everything. laugh.gif oh right, you just reminded me that gillian and charlene were recruited before they were paired up. but i just didn't know that they had signed contracts already! i mean, with no future ahead, why would they sign a contract? i thought it was only until they planned the duo TWINS that they decided to create a contract. sweat.gif i guess i was wrong. lol. so yea, a 10 year contract. basically eeg had decided beforehand to keep all of twins' youth at their fingertips before letting them go at the age of 30. laugh.gif i VERY MUCH believe so that twins will separate sometime during the end of this year or the coming year. it has been a long time, and it would only be beneficial to them if they split. nothing new can really come from twins as a whole, but if they headed towards different directions, i think they would have fresh new images to portray to us. nevertheless, different types of entertainment as well. xD
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 3 2006 10 24 PM) [snapback]2364790[/snapback]

lol. yea it's great to imagine how gillian would hold an uprise if she went to another company. laugh.gif i think that it's very much possible for gillian to become a better singer if she was signed under gold label. i think they'd want her to take singing lessons more so than take on movie roles. afterall, they're mostly a music based company. cool.gif

ah... well that cleared up everything. laugh.gif oh right, you just reminded me that gillian and charlene were recruited before they were paired up. but i just didn't know that they had signed contracts already! i mean, with no future ahead, why would they sign a contract? i thought it was only until they planned the duo TWINS that they decided to create a contract. sweat.gif i guess i was wrong. lol. so yea, a 10 year contract. basically eeg had decided beforehand to keep all of twins' youth at their fingertips before letting them go at the age of 30. laugh.gif i VERY MUCH believe so that twins will separate sometime during the end of this year or the coming year. it has been a long time, and it would only be beneficial to them if they split. nothing new can really come from twins as a whole, but if they headed towards different directions, i think they would have fresh new images to portray to us. nevertheless, different types of entertainment as well. xD

It sure is, but it's most likely just wishful thinking. Like you've mentioned, EEG already has both Twins' youth tied under their hands, and if Gillian, I don't think Charlene would leave, decided to leave, boy... are they going to seek out a fortune from her before letting her go. wacko.gif I agree that Gillian would probably improve her singing skills in Gold Label. It's more free over there because they don't force their artistes to be a part of everything; it's like how Leo, Kary, and Justin are simply there for singing, and they just take on film roles once in a while to keep up with exposure.

Well, EEG signs A LOT of people up under their management, but only a few of those really do start receiving jobs such as singing or acting. I find that so dumb. dry.gif How many companies do what they do and just sign whatever people they can get and then just pick and chose from the bunch? wacko.gif Anyway, I believe that it'll be beneficial for both if the split occurred as well, but I would chose to think twice if the splitting is going to make Gillian follow Steven's footsteps. dry.gif There was this one time during an interview of when Charlene actually accidently blurted out that she feels that Twins have nowhere else to develop together in regards of music since they've even sang chinese operas together already.It's quite true and all, but I don't think she was supposed to say that out loud. sweat.gif The split sounds good, but I'm just not sure if the outcome will actually be that great. I mean, in terms of how EEG will treat Gillian. We know that Charlene will be safely placed in the arena of acting by EEG, but what about Gillian? Perhaps it isn't that bad that Charlene has another film that she's going to film later on this year because maybe Gillian can practise her singing more during the time that she's more free in. Then hopefully, she'll make enough improvements to prove herself in the singing area. But yeah, I definitely won't be surprised if a disbanding of Twins took place sometime next year.
gReenBuTTerfly
I would jump for joy if that ever happen.......
She deserves a lot more than what she's getting right now.....
Mani suck a*s big time....even though i don't know her.....and her favorites are those who can't sing or act at all....so it wouldn't matter.....even though they get promoted more than b]Gillian[/b] they're the ones who's not getting high critics at the boxoffice....Charlene may be the one that is getting more promoted than Gillian but her movies aren't making much or at least I don't think it is unless she's acting with some big shot..but who cares....that's why it doesn't really bother me except for when I feel like my words needs to be heard then I'll say something and right now I feel like EEG needs some bashing...

By the way, I Charlene and Kenny singing together...I doubt it....it would be just like Isbella and Kenny....not a good pairing....I guess all we have to do is just keep praying for it to happen....one good pairing though is the CUTE KENNY KWAN and the GORGEOUS GILLIAN CHUNG .....
blurgal
QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 2 2006 10 31 AM) [snapback]2354377[/snapback]



is it me or does gillian seem friendlier to most of the eeg males than charlene? lol. first it was edison, with their glamorous (not) history. then it's boyz, in which gillian loves to pick on steven, whilst kenny loves to pick on gillian. lol. (at least that is how i interpret it. cool.gif ) THEN there's nicholas, where the two have showned up together numerous times during functions and conferences, etc*. and of course their very cute actions-at-the-pool, which led us to know that their relationship is more than colleagues. PLUS, one of them had mentioned before that gillian rode in nic's car to leave the other day, at mr.yeung's party (or something?). oh and don't forget dave and jaycee. lol. i guess for dave, it's just the fact that he hasn't collaborated with charlene in anything much, while he's worked with gillian twice. as much as i hate to mention jaycee, he is also one of the factors. laugh.gif during the filming of tteII, he took a lot more pictures of gillian than anyone else in his photobook. OR MAYBE THAT'S JUST STALKER STATUS! buahaha.gif (actually that has nothing to do with friendship, i just wanted to bring it up. innocent.gif )




but i thought kenny and charlene are good friends, they love joking around, bickering? haha..and i thought charlene was the one who are close to them as , she is so called the one who is more ''tom-boyish'', even by mani... i think nic was with charlene more, if u wanna say functions if i am not wrong..and there's this time where nicholas held her hand and ran up the stage together thou...and jaycee, when asked who he wants to collaberate with in his movie previously, he mentioned ah sa immediately cos he said she's fun ...

but i guess gillian is the considerate one.. smile.gif a nice friend.. cos i read this article about nicholas visiting them while they were practising for songs... and charlene went forward to talk to him about the things happening while gillian handed a bottle of water for him... haha..thats nice! ^^ i wanna these kinda friends too, one chatty to keep me company, cheering me up and another, by my side no matter what happens... best combination... yeah.gif yeah.gif


QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 4 2006 7 01 AM) [snapback]2363334[/snapback]


I agree that Gillian's biggest shot at making it for stays in the music industry is her upcoming solo. Hopefully, it will be an emotional and meaningful song with a catchy tune, but not a really simple one that will be labelled as 'another K song'. dry.gif There is another factor that Gillian could still have a chance in singing, which is her already built up popularity from Twins. But it may not go that way because if EEG really wanted to push Vincy or any other newbie up to a place like Joey's, they can do it with their financial standings, like what we've been seeing with Twins. rolleyes.gif We also have to hope that there are still other people supporting Gillian's career in EEG, despite Mani's barriers. You know, EEG/Mani have good techniques of knowing how to push their artistes forward, but they just have a problem of knowing when to use it and who to use it on. wacko.gif Another thing that Gillian needs is a chance to perform a more challenging song solo in HK. Gillian hasn't performed a song solo on HK television; therefore, HK people do not see what Gillian can do. [/font][/color]

I think there'll be a good chance of promotion if she does switch companies because what's better than an artiste who already has popularity built up? I'm sure other record companies are bright enough to put Gillian in some extra training and practice with her singing to let her improve, unlike EEG who just rushes everyone through with their jobs. The best record companies are actually EEG - because of their financial powers used to support their artistes through, Gold Label - because of the abilities to preserve talent of their artistes, and East Asia - because of their talented artistes. It's mainly the three thirds of division in HK between these record companies right now. If Gillian does switch record companies, I hope she'll be an artiste like Eason and Janice who can prove EEG wrong with their neglection. [/font] [/color]



yes, i somewhat agrees to the point that EEG seems to be rushing them in producing more albums..i really want them to like, have a proper training of about, erm, a few months training up their stamina and power, they vocal ranges and so on... but , yes, she is popular, but if she is not talented enough, she will soon be left to rust even if she changes company ,cos the companies stated above depend on talents more than outlook..i bet they don want their reputation to be tarnished...and i guess EEG wont be that stupid to let her go just like that hug.gif and i guess during the free period where she didnt have any work on her hand while charlene is filming movies, she could build up and stamina and train hard for singing ...if she wants to perform a more challenging song innocent.gif

guess its just me who wants twins to be together though... they themselves expressed that they want to remain together but there's people like you guys who prefer them apart... guess, twins would split in somewhere near soon...



QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 4 2006 12 56 PM) [snapback]2364885[/snapback]


I believe that it'll be beneficial for both if the split occurred as well, but I would chose to think twice if the splitting is going to make Gillian follow Steven's footsteps. dry.gif There was this one time during an interview of when Charlene actually accidently blurted out that she feels that Twins have nowhere else to develop together in regards of music .It's quite true and all, but I don't think she was supposed to say that out loud. sweat.gif The split sounds good, but I'm just not sure if the outcome will actually be that great. I mean, in terms of how EEG will treat Gillian. We know that Charlene will be safely placed in the arena of acting by EEG, but what about Gillian? Perhaps it isn't that bad that Charlene has another film that she's going to film later on this year because maybe Gillian can practise her singing more during the time that she's more free in. Then hopefully, she'll make enough improvements to prove herself in the singing area. But yeah, I definitely won't be surprised if a disbanding of Twins took place sometime next year. [/font][/color]


but thats rather right isnt it..as she said before, she's straightforward, blurting out things of what she thinks.. at least this shows that twins themselves know there's still lots of room to improve on, and they are trying hard to kick away the reputation they were given... i wont want a split though.... and if they were to split, i would want gillian to go into acting too cos i think her acting is better than her singing tongue.gif


QUOTE(gReenBuTTerfly @ May 4 2006 4 19 PM) [snapback]2365458[/snapback]

I would jump for joy if that ever happen.......
She deserves a lot more than what she's getting right now.....
Mani suck a*s big time....even though i don't know her.....and her favorites are those who can't sing or act at all....so it wouldn't matter.....even though they get promoted more than Gillian they're the ones who's not getting high critics at the boxoffice....Charlene may be the one that is getting more promoted than Gillian but her movies aren't making much or at least I don't think it is unless she's acting with some big shot...that's why it doesn't really bother me except for when I feel like my words needs to be heard then I'll say something and right now I feel like EEG needs some bashing...

By the way, I Charlene and Kenny singing together...I doubt it....it would be just like Isbella and Kenny....not a good pairing....I guess all we have to do is just keep praying for it to happen....



charlene's movies boxoffice are very high usually....well, if you mentioned that, 49days ended with a reasonable box office, isnt that due to us fans, who watched it who made up most of the boxoffice too? its about the same as charlene's movie with those big stars... since their storylines arent really nice at all..with the plot quite lame? cluebat.gif

ya..i cant image charlene and kenny singing together! haha..cos kenny seems to be the one who will sing the higher part and charlene, a female, singing the lower one... haha clapping.gif that will be something very different!
clelly
http://vote.icxo.com/2006fem/view_result.jsp?qid=100381

Can you help gillian? I don't understand why she's just the 11th!!
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 3 2006 4 01 PM) [snapback]2363334[/snapback]

We can really just blame the 4 music charts and the media from what has become of the scenery for the female singers. Right now, it's more or less just Joey's or Miriam's world. Sammi has pretty much stepped back from singing because of her film producing earlier and now her health; with her lack of participation, the media and the music charts just immediately boot her off the list. As for Kelly, even though she continues to work hard for the sake of music with continuous great performances, the media and music charts just somehow remove her from competing for the female singer award; instead, they just keep giving her that Asia award. n_thumbdown.gif I love Kelly's singing so much, so it's really angering when I see that she gets presented the Asia award every year when she obviously is still sticking around in the music industry and still releasing albums. It's not like Kelly's really old or anything; why are they banning her from award receiving? As for Denise, HK people just haven't completely accepted her as one of the lead singers. The only thing that they recognize her for is being Anita Mui's apprentice. I guess Denise doesn't have that much of an ambition to compete either.

Fiona's just on the A-list of female singers because her company has no more other female singers, so in order for Warner to hold their place with the other record companies, they just have to do their best to push Fiona out there. They had Gigi Leung before, but she's in a bit of isolation because of her personal life, so Fiona's Warner's only choice at the moment. Kary obviously can't squeeze up to the A-list because Gold Label is still mainly focusing on Miriam's achievements as their main female singer, and Janice just came into the picture last year. It's a good thing for Janice though; we wouldn't want people suddenly giving criticisms because of her sudden promotions even if she does have the talent for it. innocent.gif

Personally, I would rather encourage a competition between Joey and Vincy even though Vincy is relatively a newbie. I like Miriam but she's not a decent singer nor an amazing actress. Seriously, Miriam's voice is strong and deep but it's not instrumentally beautiful. blink.gif I'm quite baffled how the music industry has narrowed down to such few female artists but only one or two truly possesses singing talent and potential. bleah.gif It does upset me too how Kelly has been pushed aside. The HK audience are the ones complaining how depressing the music industry has become these past few years but yet, they're shoving someone like Kelly away. n_thumbdown.gif Denise also gained acceptance through her unique and bold Brokeback Mountain-like songs. Hm, seems like a concept along those lines would gain any recognition these days. As for Fiona, makes sense. I believe that even though Miriam is quite overrated in both arenas but because she has been exposed for quite a while now, her fanbase is both decent and stable.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 3 2006 4 01 PM) [snapback]2363334[/snapback]
Some HK people definitely do have some kind of hatred towards Joey because of her continuous awards receiving. It was heated up so much during the time just before the award ceremonies. wacko.gif I wonder how old Vincy is? She must be 21 or older, considering she was at the Budweiser promotion of which Isabella and Steven weren't allowed to be at since they weren't old enough. Vincy just simply makes Twins and the others look so bad. sweat.gif Twins really need to get into action because what if it does happen that HK people start looking for more talent, then Twins may really get neglected from that. unsure.gif

Vincy's appearance was unexpected, that's for sure. blink.gif That's why I say that Twins, especially Gillian, have to act fast to show their improvements/talents if they want to be here to stay. I'd say that if that doesn't happen, then I really am afraid that Charlene will just head to the acting department and make a wonderful career there while Gillian, sadly, will most likely be frozen. It's unlikely that Gillian can go into acting as well since it's conflicting with Charlene. Then if EEG goes on with their newbies, then Gillian will just be left in the dust.

I agree that Gillian's biggest shot at making it for stays in the music industry is her upcoming solo. Hopefully, it will be an emotional and meaningful song with a catchy tune, but not a really simple one that will be labelled as 'another K song'. dry.gif There is another factor that Gillian could still have a chance in singing, which is her already built up popularity from Twins. But it may not go that way because if EEG really wanted to push Vincy or any other newbie up to a place like Joey's, they can do it with their financial standings, like what we've been seeing with Twins. rolleyes.gif We also have to hope that there are still other people supporting Gillian's career in EEG, despite Mani's barriers. You know, EEG/Mani have good techniques of knowing how to push their artistes forward, but they just have a problem of knowing when to use it and who to use it on. wacko.gif Another thing that Gillian needs is a chance to perform a more challenging song solo in HK. Gillian hasn't performed a song solo on HK television; therefore, HK people do not see what Gillian can do.

I guess Vincy is at least 21+. It's just funny watching all of the EEG artists get drunk and shed their goody images. 1.gif

Even though, I'm a bit skeptical towards EEG's current marketing strategies at the moment but if Yumiko, Mandy, Isabella, Stephy, Niki, and even Fiona are still being supported in the music industry, I guess, there's hope for Gillian. I believe Gillian has as much potential and talent as Kary but with a different unique voice. When Cookies first debuted, there was just something about Kary's voice that struck and observe how successful she is now in her solo career? Kary is considered as one of the most promising artists right now. I'm not trying to brag how I predicted correctly about Kary but that is the same exact potential I see in Gillian, someone who is just waiting for that same opportunity. I really hope that all goes well for Gillian with or without Twins. Since Gillian is the ultimate creator of her upcoming solo, I do wish that she uses this opportunity to her advantage, increase the difficulty level of performance, finally expose her vocals to vibrato, strengthen her weaknesses by singing her notes with a more powerful touch, and just truly, reveal her hidden potential. It'll be Gillian's special song, I hope that Gillian will measure her own potential and go crazy with it. yeah.gif

If EEG is reserving this year for Gillian to seriously practice and improve her vocals, I guess, missing a few films here and there won't hurt Gillian's acting career that much. Gillian has already gained a lot of recognition in the acting arena, it's time for her to concentrate and save her music career. Hope to hear a new Gillian in her next live performances.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 3 2006 4 01 PM) [snapback]2363334[/snapback]

Wow, from what you said, it sounds so much like KG are made possible because (1) Mani has no other choice. and (2) Gillian is simply competent for the job. innocent.gif I don't doubt your theory at all. It's all still so amusing that 'Cupid Arrow' by Kenny and Isabella was sang live numerous times, and it was a commerical song, but it wasn't as well-liked nor accepted as 'Conscience Discovery' with Kenny and Gillian, despite its lack of promotions? n_tt2.gif Voices are natural things, so Mani can't change the fact that Kenny's and Gillian's voices synchronize; therefore, they are suitable for a duet. harhar.gif I'm not fond of hearing a Kenny+Charlene duet either because I don't think they could synchronize well either. (1) Charlene has a deeper voice than Kenny, so unless they're going to get Kenny to sing the female part and Charlene the male part, I don't see how it'll work out. I don't really want to hear Charlene try to stretch her voice out to meet the high notes either. (2)Kenny and Charlene have a similar voice base, and duets usually don't work out that well with similar voice bases. (3) Kenny's voice is simply hard to synchronize with for almost anyone.

Kenny's upcoming film is going to EMG produced, so the female lead's more than likely going to be an EEG artiste. Even if Mani did want to 'reserve' Kenny for Charlene, she wouldn't be able to do that since Charlene has another film on hand. There's a high chance that it could be Isabella though since EEG does want to push her into more acting. The only downside with the choice of Isabella is she doesn't have a very stable and promising boxoffice result. There's a slight chance that Gillian will be used, just so the film can mooch off of Gillian's popularity and receive good responses.

Well, I guess Sa could sing a duet with Kenny but most likely, the duet will only be kept on CD though. Sa has matured these past few years, her voice has also changed a bit; her vocals aren't able to stretch as high as before anymore without breaking live. I don't want to imagine how weird it will sound if Sa sang lower than Kenny live because lowering the notes live with Gillian wasn't as visible but it surely will be obvious with Kenny. If Sa can't even sing higher than Gillian, um...chances are, Sa won't out stretch Kenny in high notes.

Why can't EEG just give that lead role to Gillian? Oh, is it because Gillian's demand payment is too high for a cheap EMG production? loool.gif Anyways, I really doubt the role will be handed over to Gillian. If Kenny and Isabella have already collaborated in another duet, another music video, EEG would just have to complete their mission in promoting these two together with a film or perhaps Vincy? That will be an early jumpstart for her acting career. dry.gif

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 3 2006 4 01 PM) [snapback]2363334[/snapback]

Aw! infatuated.gif This photo's so cute!! I was hoping that there was a photo of KG during the Budweiser event, and there is one! Hmm..... notice how Kenny's changed his hairstyle twice since the filming of the EEG version of 'Conscience Discovery' while Gillian's is still the same? dry.gif

Gillian doesn't seem like a person who would leave, but I guess if she really was being frozen, then I guess she would have a reason to do so. If Gillian does get frozen, then she should just pay the money to cease the contract she has with EEG. Even if she doesn't find a different company to switch, she could at least have her freedom of changing careers. Of course being her fans, we would want her to continue with her career, but her desire counts more.

I think there'll be a good chance of promotion if she does switch companies because what's better than an artiste who already has popularity built up? I'm sure other record companies are bright enough to put Gillian in some extra training and practice with her singing to let her improve, unlike EEG who just rushes everyone through with their jobs. The best record companies are actually EEG - because of their financial powers used to support their artistes through, Gold Label - because of the abilities to preserve talent of their artistes, and East Asia - because of their talented artistes. It's mainly the three thirds of division in HK between these record companies right now. If Gillian does switch record companies, I hope she'll be an artiste like Eason and Janice who can prove EEG wrong with their neglection.

Odd. Everyone has changed their hairstyles except for Gillian. n_thumbdown.gif Are they purposely pushing Gillian to maintain that perm? Anyways, I love this KG picture as well. They compliment each other quite well don't they? yeah.gif

I also want Gillian to switch companies. Seems like Gold Lable encourages their artists to really sing with or without talent. Stephy cannot sing but even the songs her company chooses to promote her image with are more flexible than Twins'. Twins, Twins, Twins! Twins already have nice catchy songs, they just need to really work on the emotional stretches of complicated songs.
QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ May 3 2006 4 42 PM) [snapback]2363544[/snapback]


But I do hope that she leaves EEG, especially if they continue treating her this way, and if after Twins split, they freeze her. Hhhmm, maybe if another company really liked Gillian and she was frozen, wouldn't it be nice of them to pay for Gillian's contract to end so that Gillian could go to their company? biggrin.gif That'll be pretty nice and cool.

Also, here is the Transformation Party song, I changed the file type to mp3.
Twins - Transformation Party

And here's the Yennis Cheung song that you wanted.
Yennis Cheung - 49 Days Themesong


Thanks for the uploads. I really like Yennis's song. Hm, a nice song I wished Gillian could have sung. I bet if Gillian sang the song, all of Yennis's vibratos would be taken out of Gillian's version. Don't understand why Gillian is always stuck to simple songs or the music crew simplify the songs for her when it's not at all necessary. cluebat.gif

That is plausible since it's sort of common. If another company who has been interested in Gillian and willing to expand and elaborate on her potential more than EEG is willing to invest, they can terminate Gillian's contract with a new contract that will cancel out the regulations of EEG's contract and also compensation for altering and ending the contract earlier than the legal date. But true to what Little_Purple_Bell stated, it would be difficult to go against EEG and her buddies like Joey and Sa. If Gillian does enter Gold Label, a direct competitor of EEG, that is going to be tough on Gillian.
QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 3 2006 8 40 PM) [snapback]2364584[/snapback]

laugh.gif what's all this about changing her company? i doubt that it'll happen anytime soon in the coming years. eeg was what made her who she is today. even if she desires to change companies, i doubt eeg would let her go that easily. as cruel as they are, they'd probably crush her popularity before she'd even stepped a foot away from their threshold. rolleyes.gif also, i assume that paying for a contract to end earlier would cost her a fortune. i know that applies for your phone contracts as well. laugh.gif it'll probably be the cost of your phone contract times a thousand. dry.gif and i doubt gillian can afford to fork up all that cash. she might seem rich, but my theory is, she really isn't dued to numerous reasons. lol.

but really, i can't exactly imagine gillian going to another company. seems like with eeg, she can get more promotion and exposure (though they're quite unjust. lol) but i guess if eeg was a real asshole, then it's perfectly normal and understandable that gillian says "f u, eeg" and leave for the better. laugh.gif

btw, i heard that twins had a 10 year contract. hmm i wonder if they had to sign contracts under the name of TWINS. if so, then wouldn't they need to stay as TWINS until the 10 year was up? doesn't EEG has to compensate if they go against the contract? laugh.gif or maybe they had separate contracts under their own name. hmmm........ well i'm not even going to bother with this problem anymore, i'm not even the tiniest bit educated with law. laugh.gif

That does trigger another fear. Since the contract of Twins or just Gillian is coming to an end pretty soon, no more or less than 3-4 years, EEG loves to freeze their artists during that grace period to strip them from the popularity EEG helped build. There has been more than enough examples of how cruel EEG can become when they don't want other companies to feed off the popularity they built for their ex-artists. I think that even though EEG has helped expose Twins to an amazing phase of their lives, Gillian is pretty much finished with the "all about eye candy promotions" company and should move on into a more "musically supportive" agency that will further benefit her in becoming a well respected singer, not idol.
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 3 2006 9 09 PM) [snapback]2364718[/snapback]

EEG has expressed that earlier that everything signed with the name 'Twins' will actually expire when 2007 hits. That's why all the rumours of the disband surfaced so roughly this year, and we do have reasons to believe that the disband could happen.

Yeah. EEG is just trying to gain as much profit as they can by using the "Show more support for Twins if you don't want them to disband, blah blah, purchase their concert tickets, purchase their albums with the second and third versions too, and oh, don't forget to purchase their holiday special albums too" tactic. dry.gif It's all about making money. Even if Twins' days were to end, EEG has gained more than enough. Plus, EEG has realized that Twins just aren't as powerful as before; the fans have matured and their cute image won't last anymore. At least EEG's prediction was quite on target. Twins in general have weakened. To prolong their unification is to only build them up for endless criticisms especially with newbies that are so much better like Vincy. blink.gif
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 3 2006 9 56 PM) [snapback]2364885[/snapback]

It sure is, but it's most likely just wishful thinking. Like you've mentioned, EEG already has both Twins' youth tied under their hands, and if Gillian, I don't think Charlene would leave, decided to leave, boy... are they going to seek out a fortune from her before letting her go. wacko.gif I agree that Gillian would probably improve her singing skills in Gold Label. It's more free over there because they don't force their artistes to be a part of everything; it's like how Leo, Kary, and Justin are simply there for singing, and they just take on film roles once in a while to keep up with exposure.

Well, EEG signs A LOT of people up under their management, but only a few of those really do start receiving jobs such as singing or acting. I find that so dumb. dry.gif How many companies do what they do and just sign whatever people they can get and then just pick and chose from the bunch? wacko.gif Anyway, I believe that it'll be beneficial for both if the split occurred as well, but I would chose to think twice if the splitting is going to make Gillian follow Steven's footsteps. dry.gif There was this one time during an interview of when Charlene actually accidently blurted out that she feels that Twins have nowhere else to develop together in regards of music since they've even sang chinese operas together already.It's quite true and all, but I don't think she was supposed to say that out loud. sweat.gif The split sounds good, but I'm just not sure if the outcome will actually be that great. I mean, in terms of how EEG will treat Gillian. We know that Charlene will be safely placed in the arena of acting by EEG, but what about Gillian? Perhaps it isn't that bad that Charlene has another film that she's going to film later on this year because maybe Gillian can practise her singing more during the time that she's more free in. Then hopefully, she'll make enough improvements to prove herself in the singing area. But yeah, I definitely won't be surprised if a disbanding of Twins took place sometime next year.

Well, I guess we have to take into consideration too that Gillian needed a company like EEG to launch the beginning of her career but now, Gillian needs much more than just a wealthy company like EEG to promote her. Gillian's youth years were given to EEG because she was still in the exploration stages of becoming a singer and actress but she should resume her real career in another company that will invest the proper training like Gold Label. EEG began Gillian's journey, another company like Gold Lable should end it when she's in her 30's.

I agree with Sa. Twins have sung an array of songs together from children songs, Chinese opera, puppy love songs, all the way up to pop-rock. Twins have reached their climax together.
QUOTE(blurgal @ May 4 2006 1 33 AM) [snapback]2365474[/snapback]

guess its just me who wants twins to be together though... they themselves expressed that they want to remain together but there's people like you guys who prefer them apart... guess, twins would split in somewhere near soon...

but thats rather right isnt it..as she said before, she's straightforward, blurting out things of what she thinks.. at least this shows that twins themselves know there's still lots of room to improve on, and they are trying hard to kick away the reputation they were given... i wont want a split though.... and if they were to split, i would want gillian to go into acting too cos i think her acting is better than her singing tongue.gif

charlene's movies boxoffice are very high usually....well, if you mentioned that, 49days ended with a reasonable box office, isnt that due to us fans, who watched it who made up most of the boxoffice too? its about the same as charlene's movie with those big stars... since their storylines arent really nice at all..with the plot quite lame? cluebat.gif

Well, Twins can't admit that they don't enjoy working with each other. I believe Twins do enjoy and have shared lots of wonderful memories together as a pair but I really think it's time for them to mature separately. Even Twins themselves have shown signs to believe the same. By Sa blurting that out, it just shows that even Sa knows that Twins have been together for way too long. They really have no other area to improve, grow, or insight the fans anymore. They've gone from A through Z, can't repeat the alphabet or else it will only result into more bashings.

I also support Gillian in acting as well alongside with singing. It's less competitive and more international. Plus, I believe Gillian can handle both.

Well, even with a lame plot, big stars like Jackie, Nic, Charlie plus others like Daniel, Terence, Andy, Dave, etc. (whoa, almost every character consisted of a star) is a great enough cast to make a smashing box office; Andy who is like the King of HK or something plus Charlie combined is also enough to gain a decent result with or without Sa actually. In contrast, Gillian, Stephen, Steven, who are all still considered the young generation of stars who don't have such high profile fanbases yet still made it amongst quite a few films that were also released. BOK had the least promising cast. Tao Hong? Hm, a mainland actress that no one really noticed beforehand, Daniel, someone the HK media isn't all in all fond of, and Gillian, the stiff member of Twins but still, the result turned out good.

Another essay. I hope you guys don't get bored of reading. I just have so much to say but so little time these days.
bluehearts
If Gillian were to really change companies, I think she really should go to Gold Label yeah.gif Paco is a really good manager as he is supportive and encouraging. When I first started watching Award Shows, I remember hearing a lot of artists in Gold Label would say 'Thank You' to Paco and he would be so happy and proud. It just shows how much these artists love their manager. Usually for EEG artists, I hardly hear the artists say "Thank You' to Mani when they recieve an award or was Mani showing any signs of pride and happiness.

It would be great for Gillian if she would leave EEG for Gold Label.

QUOTE(blurgal @ May 4 2006 9 33 AM) [snapback]2365474[/snapback]

guess its just me who wants twins to be together though... they themselves expressed that they want to remain together but there's people like you guys who prefer them apart... guess, twins would split in somewhere near soon...

The only reason I want Twins to split is because they are stalling each other from their careers and because of EEG's attitude towards Gillian. I mean if it was Charlene that is being treated badly by the company because they favor Gillian more, would you be encouraged to still have Twins together as the meaning of Twins unity is gone? It is like letting one to suffer and stay because she could help, in the progress, to promote the more favored one. It's really unfair and I find it pretty intolerable if you think of it in our perspective.

Twins is just like an empty shell basically. What's the point of having this group if they can't share the same opportunity, mind as well go different ways because they are a group, not just any group but Twins--> identical-->equal. The point of Twins is not there anymore. Plus like Charlene said, there's not much to develop for Twins anymore.
asillysaint
QUOTE(dimsumfoods @ May 2 2006 10 22 PM) [snapback]2360144[/snapback]

Forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong forum... but I'm helping my friend try to find the name and lyrics to a Twins song... she recently started listening to them (and really likes them!), and she found this one song... very fast song. I think it's a few years old... but my Canto isn't good enough to guess the lyrics or the title.

If anyone here can help, I'd love it! I uploaded the song at: http://www.savefile.com/files/9440855

Thank you all!!! BTW... Gillian... my gosh, she deserves the best.

This is one of my favorite Twins' fast songs.

It's called: High Temperature Yoga.

高溫瑜珈

冒險 在高熱之下走在恆河下游吧 探聽一下
大師 你我要是有緣傳授印度秘技 給我吧

一雙手 伸展該怎麼伸(背拱起)
腳與背脊 如何才能貼近(肚縮起)
想 拋低驕矜身份
能屈能伸 地愛人

(腳屈起)想 懂得體恤
疾病和窮困 艱苦中 都貼心
談戀愛 有軟硬 有鬆緊

隨著你 喜好變化 弧度也 有偏差
研習這種 高溫的瑜珈
迎合你 總有代價 如何苦 都不怕
卑下 夠愛你 我也就不怕

熱戀 並不是激烈相撞磨平舊形狀 至夠悲壯
幸福 秘訣要會借力能用羽毛去承 幾百磅

一雙手 伸展該怎麼伸(背拱起)
腳與背脊 如何才能貼近(肚縮起)
想 拋低驕矜身份
能屈能伸 地愛人

(腳屈起)想 懂得體恤
疾病和窮困 艱苦中 都貼心
談戀愛 有軟硬 有鬆緊

隨著你 喜好變化 弧度也 有偏差
研習這種 高溫的瑜珈
(你未學會嗎?)
迎合你 總有代價 如何苦 都不怕
卑下 一定會有 汗流下
(夠愛你 我也就不怕)

衝著炎熱的浪 聽著迷離的 Sitar
想著甜蜜的話 忍著頭暈 眼花
衝著炎熱的浪 聽著迷離的 Sitar
想著甜蜜的話 忍著頭暈 眼花

隨著你 姿勢變化 來順應 你溫差
從熱戀中 衍生的瑜珈
(你未學會嗎?)
其實你 體貼我嗎 能同樣 屈曲嗎
好吧 一定會有 汗流下
(你看我 教你做好嗎?)

Credits: TC

Hey, Bluehearts, I love your banner! Gillian<3!!
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 4 2006 2 26 PM) [snapback]2367554[/snapback]

Personally, I would rather encourage a competition between Joey and Vincy even though Vincy is relatively a newbie. I like Miriam but she's not a decent singer nor an amazing actress. Seriously, Miriam's voice is strong and deep but it's not instrumentally beautiful. blink.gif I'm quite baffled how the music industry has narrowed down to such few female artists but only one or two truly possesses singing talent and potential. bleah.gif It does upset me too how Kelly has been pushed aside. The HK audience are the ones complaining how depressing the music industry has become these past few years but yet, they're shoving someone like Kelly away. n_thumbdown.gif Denise also gained acceptance through her unique and bold Brokeback Mountain-like songs. Hm, seems like a concept along those lines would gain any recognition these days. As for Fiona, makes sense. I believe that even though Miriam is quite overrated in both arenas but because she has been exposed for quite a while now, her fanbase is both decent and stable.

I suppose a comparison between Joey and Vincy would be quite interesting because they're similar in their singing aspects. wink.gif But I doubt it would actually happen publicly because Vincy's the newbie; it is happening in forums though. Miriam, I think it's how you've said it, she has been exposed with both areas of her career for so long that HK just accepts her with both singing and acting. She's one of the actresses who have a promising boxoffice, but I do wish that she would try out other film roles instead of the usual wacko girl roles that she receives most often. HK only has themselves to blame about the bad state of HK's music industry because they're the ones who are narrowing their choices of singers. What's so wrong with Kelly that they just have to shove her away? Kelly is able to sing Cantonese, Mandarin, English, and Japanese well, so what else are they expecting? dry.gif
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 4 2006 2 26 PM) [snapback]2367554[/snapback]

I guess Vincy is at least 21+. It's just funny watching all of the EEG artists get drunk and shed their goody images. 1.gif

Even though, I'm a bit skeptical towards EEG's current marketing strategies at the moment but if Yumiko, Mandy, Isabella, Stephy, Niki, and even Fiona are still being supported in the music industry, I guess, there's hope for Gillian. I believe Gillian has as much potential and talent as Kary but with a different unique voice. When Cookies first debuted, there was just something about Kary's voice that struck and observe how successful she is now in her solo career? Kary is considered as one of the most promising artists right now. I'm not trying to brag how I predicted correctly about Kary but that is the same exact potential I see in Gillian, someone who is just waiting for that same opportunity. I really hope that all goes well for Gillian with or without Twins. Since Gillian is the ultimate creator of her upcoming solo, I do wish that she uses this opportunity to her advantage, increase the difficulty level of performance, finally expose her vocals to vibrato, strengthen her weaknesses by singing her notes with a more powerful touch, and just truly, reveal her hidden potential. It'll be Gillian's special song, I hope that Gillian will measure her own potential and go crazy with it. yeah.gif

If EEG is reserving this year for Gillian to seriously practice and improve her vocals, I guess, missing a few films here and there won't hurt Gillian's acting career that much. Gillian has already gained a lot of recognition in the acting arena, it's time for her to concentrate and save her music career. Hope to hear a new Gillian in her next live performances.

Yeah, I find it amusing that all ten of the EEG artistes who are part of the Budweiser event are all shown of drinking in the commercial as an ad, and now they're frequently asked about their drinking experiences and their getting drunk experiences by the media. lmao.gif

I'm definitely sure that Gillian holds more potential and talent in singing than all the people you've listed. But even so, I guess it's just impossible to try to guess EEG's plans. It's like the fact of the HK music industry; just because you have potential doesn't mean you'll be promoted, and just because you don't potential doesn't mean you won't be promoted either. huh.gif This is so depressing, but it's true. I suppose there is hope for Gillian. There are still chances of EEG promoting Gillian into a singing career since a company can never have too many talented singers, can they?

Kary's voice definitely stands out, even back when there were nine people in Cookies. They were performing 'The Last Piece' on JSG, and Kary's voice stood out from all the other voices. In fact, her voice seemed to be the one leading everyone else's on, like as the base of the song. Another interesting thing is when the nine Cookies were divided up into three groups of three since there were three microphones, Stephy, Theresa, and Kary were the ones to stand in the middle of their groups. laugh.gif I guess that's where the original plans of pulling the three of them out of Cookies came from, but then I suppose Paco just changed his mind and downsized the group Cookies instead. Anyway, in many aspects, Kary's and Gillian's little situations and experiences are very similar. They seem to be the members of the group who are being limited of their talents because of the group structure. When being in a group, it's almost always that an individual can't do his/her best because of the consideration of the other member(s). Looks factored into their career as well; Kary had been denied many times because of her 'not so pretty looks', Gillian has been denied because of her 'fancy face looks'. blink.gif But they both have very unique and versatile voices, so as the depressing days end, their days to shine will finally come. It's happening for Kary, so I truly hope it will for Gillian soon. I've found that Kary and Gillian do have some similar singing ways, not surprising since they have the same singing teacher, but once I was listening to my mp3 at a low volume, and the noises around me got louder, so the music was merely like a whisper to my ears. A song came on, and I could only hear the tone of the singer but not the exact voice, so I was guessing it was probably Gillian singing, but it was actually Kary. wacko.gif But they both have potential in them; that's for sure. I really hope your prediction for Gillian will be as accurate as it was for Kary, asillysaint.

I wouldn't really mind missing a few films here and there this year if EEG had the plans for Gillian to improve her singing. I think the serial that Gillian filmed will increase her popularity in Mainland/Taiwan, even better if it aired on TVB in HK because then it could keep up her popularity there. yeah.gif The Twins film would definitely get both Twins a lot of exposure, even if it's not for Gillian but for Charlene, Gillian will still be mentioned because it's a Twins film. Wouldn't Gillian's solo turn out to be really good since she would've been training her vocals beforehand? biggrin.gif I really hope her solo will turn out to be the best song she's done because of her personal creations!!!

QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 4 2006 2 26 PM) [snapback]2367554[/snapback]

Well, I guess Sa could sing a duet with Kenny but most likely, the duet will only be kept on CD though. Sa has matured these past few years, her voice has also changed a bit; her vocals aren't able to stretch as high as before anymore without breaking live. I don't want to imagine how weird it will sound if Sa sang lower than Kenny live because lowering the notes live with Gillian wasn't as visible but it surely will be obvious with Kenny. If Sa can't even sing higher than Gillian, um...chances are, Sa won't out stretch Kenny in high notes.

Why can't EEG just give that lead role to Gillian? Oh, is it because Gillian's demand payment is too high for a cheap EMG production? loool.gif Anyways, I really doubt the role will be handed over to Gillian. If Kenny and Isabella have already collaborated in another duet, another music video, EEG would just have to complete their mission in promoting these two together with a film or perhaps Vincy? That will be an early jumpstart for her acting career. dry.gif

At least on CD, Charlene's notes could be adjusted to be higher to suit Kenny, but I still don't think it would turn out to be all that great. Kenny and Charlene both have the scratch in their voice, so clashing it wouldn't be the best idea. Yeah, 'Conscience Discovery' is one of the highest noted songs that Gillian has sung, and it's basically because she had to adjust so she'd correspond with Kenny's usage of notes. Another thing is, in Kenny's songs, you really gotta know how to stretch your voice, without breaking it too.

I don't think it'll be Vincy for the role since she's preparing for her debut CD. EEG's pretty eager to get Vincy on the roll with singing, so hopefully they won't rush her through with too many things before she's stable with her singing. Or else they'll have to answer to all of us listeners for ruining another singer for us. dry.gif Yeah, 90% the female role will be Isabella. Even though this pair isn't that widely accepted, EEG seems to be fine with it. Let's just hope with our slim 10% chance that the female role will be handed to Gillian because it'd be such a pleasure to KG on-screen as a couple together in a film!!! infatuated.gif Or if she really doesn't receive the role, let's hope EEG is being constructional with Gillian's free time by letting her train her vocals instead of letting her rot her time out. dry.gif


QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 4 2006 2 26 PM) [snapback]2367554[/snapback]

Well, even with a lame plot, big stars like Jackie, Nic, Charlie plus others like Daniel, Terence, Andy, Dave, etc. (whoa, almost every character consisted of a star) is a great enough cast to make a smashing box office; Andy who is like the King of HK or something plus Charlie combined is also enough to gain a decent result with or without Sa actually. In contrast, Gillian, Stephen, Steven, who are all still considered the young generation of stars who don't have such high profile fanbases yet still made it amongst quite a few films that were also released. BOK had the least promising cast. Tao Hong? Hm, a mainland actress that no one really noticed beforehand, Daniel, someone the HK media isn't all in all fond of, and Gillian, the stiff member of Twins but still, the result turned out good.

Yeah, 'A New Police Story' just had a crazy cast. When I was watching it, I was like, "Is there even a single extra in this film?" loool.gif What can we say? Charlene's films just take really good care of her promotions, even when she doesn't hold a big role in the film. In 'A New Police Story' and 'All About Love', Charlene didn't have such a big role nor screentime, but it's because promotions placed her at a spot of a main character that she received exposure and recognition as the film gave success.

I swear, if I were the boss of EMG, I'd want to run myself into a wall when the final results of 'A Chinese Tall Story' came out. It was highly invested with about ten million HK$, with numerous promotions before the screening of the film, with so many EEG idols, and it was screened during Christmas time, which is the hot season for films, and it came out to a similar boxoffice result as '49 Days', which was a low budget film, with one promotion before its screening, idol attraction basically on based on Gillian herself, and it was shown during Chinese New Year, which is a rather quiet season for films. n_innocent.gif Does that ring a bell for anything?


QUOTE(bluehearts @ May 4 2006 3 51 PM) [snapback]2367852[/snapback]

If Gillian were to really change companies, I think she really should go to Gold Label yeah.gif Paco is a really good manager as he is supportive and encouraging. When I first started watching Award Shows, I remember hearing a lot of artists in Gold Label would say 'Thank You' to Paco and he would be so happy and proud. It just shows how much these artists love their manager. Usually for EEG artists, I hardly hear the artists say "Thank You' to Mani when they recieve an award or was Mani showing any signs of pride and happiness.

It would be great for Gillian if she would leave EEG for Gold Label.
The only reason I want Twins to split is because they are stalling each other from their careers and because of EEG's attitude towards Gillian. I mean if it was Charlene that is being treated badly by the company because they favor Gillian more, would you be encouraged to still have Twins together as the meaning of Twins unity is gone? It is like letting one to suffer and stay because she could help, in the progress, to promote the more favored one. It's really unfair and I find it pretty intolerable if you think of it in our perspective.

Twins is just like an empty shell basically. What's the point of having this group if they can't share the same opportunity, mind as well go different ways because they are a group, not just any group but Twins--> identical-->equal. The point of Twins is not there anymore. Plus like Charlene said, there's not much to develop for Twins anymore.

It is true that EEG artistes rarely do thank Mani when they get up on-stage. It's pretty pointless of even thanking her in my opinon. dry.gif Gillian thanked her on-stage while crying, but when the camera shot downstage at Mani, she just had this bland look on her face. She didn't look proud or show any appreciation at all. All the Gold Label artistes thank Paco when they receive an award, and he shows this smile of pride, like a proud dad watching his kids make achievements. We'll probably never see Mani doing anything of the sort. She can't even get the basics right, which is try to keep everything equal among the artistes. dry.gif We don't see Paco leaving any of the four girls from Cookies in the corner after the disband, he assigned jobs for all of them. Now, it's hard, or how about impossible, to say about Mani, seeing what she's done to Steven after the regrouping of Boy'Z. It's also hard to say about what she plans to do with Gillian.

You've made a good point about Twins practically being an empty shell. If nothing among Twins go evenly nor equally, what's the point of continuing on if they are just going to stall one another's careers? There still may be a slight chance that things will get better for Gillian if Twins disbanded because then, EEG wouldn't always have to think of how Gillian is going to overshadow Charlene if they give her the least bit of promotions that she deserves. It doesn't mean that Gillian and Charlene will be completely isolated from each other if the disbanding took place. They're still friends, and maybe they could even become as close as they used to be since they'd have less revolutions/comparisons between each other because they aren't a group anymore. They could also still work together, just not in the recent time of the disbanding because they need people to get used to seeing them alone.
Annie Cao
Gillian is the BEST singer ever!!!!!!!!!!! I love her sooooooooo much!!!!!!!!

Ah Gill is so pretty and cute, and her voice is so pleasant!!!!
tuyen
Who's the fourth Cookies member? I know that Stephy, Theresa, and Kary have or are debuting.

As members, Twins will always be compared. Even if they split, they'll still be compared, it's inevitable. It's already happening even though Twins haven't officially broken up. They're compared on if they do become solo artists, singing or acting, who will be more successful. Who will be that, who will be this, regardless of whether one's in singing and another in acting. Just because they've separated, doesn't mean comparisons are going to stop, maybe if they didn't start out as Twins, they would have less comparisons, but we can't really go back in time and change that.

EEG makes bad decisions all the time. So many times that it doesn't even make sense that they're one of the top companies in HK. It's just stupid how they didn't do anything with Boyz after Kenny went solo. Oh wait, they did do something, added another member, and another. rolleyes.gif What's the point of adding more members if you're not planning on doing anything with them? I don't know what will happen to Gillian after Twins' split. I just hope it won't be another bad decision.
blurgal
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 4 26 AM) [snapback]2367554[/snapback]


Well, I guess Sa could sing a duet with Kenny but most likely, the duet will only be kept on CD though. Sa has matured these past few years, her voice has also changed a bit; her vocals aren't able to stretch as high as before anymore without breaking live. I don't want to imagine how weird it will sound if Sa sang lower than Kenny live because lowering the notes live with Gillian wasn't as visible but it surely will be obvious with Kenny. If Sa can't even sing higher than Gillian, um...chances are, Sa won't out stretch Kenny in high notes.

Thanks for the uploads. I really like Yennis's song. Hm, a nice song I wished Gillian could have sung. I bet if Gillian sang the song, all of Yennis's vibratos would be taken out of Gillian's version. Don't understand why Gillian is always stuck to simple songs or the music crew simplify the songs for her when it's not at all necessary. cluebat.gif

That is plausible since it's sort of common. If another company who has been interested in Gillian and willing to expand and elaborate on her potential more than EEG is willing to invest, they can terminate Gillian's contract with a new contract that will cancel out the regulations of EEG's contract and also compensation for altering and ending the contract earlier than the legal date. But true to what Little_Purple_Bell stated, it would be difficult to go against EEG and her buddies like Joey and Sa. If Gillian does enter Gold Label, a direct competitor of EEG, that is going to be tough on Gillian.

That does trigger another fear. Since the contract of Twins or just Gillian is coming to an end pretty soon, no more or less than 3-4 years, EEG loves to freeze their artists during that grace period to strip them from the popularity EEG helped build. There has been more than enough examples of how cruel EEG can become when they don't want other companies to feed off the popularity they built for their ex-artists. I think that even though EEG has helped expose Twins to an amazing phase of their lives, Gillian is pretty much finished with the "all about eye candy promotions" company and should move on into a more "musically supportive" agency that will further benefit her in becoming a well respected singer, not idol.


Well, Twins can't admit that they don't enjoy working with each other. I believe Twins do enjoy and have shared lots of wonderful memories together as a pair but I really think it's time for them to mature separately. Even Twins themselves have shown signs to believe the same. By Sa blurting that out, it just shows that even Sa knows that Twins have been together for way too long. They really have no other area to improve, grow, or insight the fans anymore. They've gone from A through Z, can't repeat the alphabet or else it will only result into more bashings.


Well, even with a lame plot, big stars like Jackie, Nic, Charlie plus others like Daniel, Terence, Andy, Dave, etc. (whoa, almost every character consisted of a star) is a great enough cast to make a smashing box office; Andy who is like the King of HK or something plus Charlie combined is also enough to gain a decent result with or without Sa actually. In contrast, Gillian, Stephen, Steven, who are all still considered the young generation of stars who don't have such high profile fanbases yet still made it amongst quite a few films that were also released. BOK had the least promising cast. Tao Hong? Hm, a mainland actress that no one really noticed beforehand, Daniel, someone the HK media isn't all in all fond of, and Gillian, the stiff member of Twins but still, the result turned out good.




-sometimes, ah sa can sing even higher than gillian you know ? ^^ haha..but i don really want ah sa to cooperate with kenny for a song cos i think their voices didnt really match well... heehee, it would be weird definitely seeing such a combination.. yes, by the way, kenny cant really sing too... i hate to say that but, he and steven (old boy'z) cant sing too... haha... they are more of being idols~ heehee

simple songs or the music crew simplify the songs ?

if her voice is nice enough, even a simple song can touch people's heart and do wonders~ haha... and why wouldnt the crew give them the songs? there are several songs which are hard to manage, especially live Like 'duijia', i think they shouldnt perform that heehee ...and also, 德州的故事...they cant sing fast song live...hee, i cant stand them singing~ haha...*opps*

-no more areas to improve?

There are tons of them... they can still improve heaps if, IF EEG allows them, giving them time... Its really hard to imagine a singer introducing many many albums in a year while those, who really make an effort spend years or months to think of songs, etc, before their album is out... at least theirs show that they had worked hard enough...
even if twins want to improve on their singing, it seems that time disallows that.. they dont have sufficient time to do so.. taking up this project, going for a promotion for albums, award taking ceremony, shooting advertisments... down.gif down.gif thats sooo TIRING!!! * i would wan a break if i were in their shoes..if not, i am going to die from stress~* lolx clapping.gif

thus, there's still way for them to move on..life isnt just that short like alphabets...

-terminate Gillian's contract with a new contract that will cancel out the regulations of EEG's contract and also compensation for altering? Hmm..precisely there is no company like that out there, if there's this company, she would have already change the company..Its not as if if she wants to get out of eeg, she can... cluebat.gif and besides, gillian, i think, wont sort of like ''betray'' EEG and jump over..she isnt tat sort of person i guess..she is like an innocent girl like those with no desires to keep winning others,climbing all over people's heads... ^^


- and as you mention the box office... Hong kong movies are like that... the stories and plots are mostly lame n_thumbdown.gif , like chang hen ge by sammi,i went to sleep not even half an hour later...but it was recognised and it had quite a hit among the box office too... hmmm arent Gillian the one? one of the reason y 49days has a REasonable box office hits is her isnt it.. People like you guys went to support her work..and i guess, that makes up quite a big part of it... also, furthermore, its promoted as a ghost story, something which would attracts people like me and my cousins who love ghost and frightening movie... haha...the show 'all about love' is a romance story/tear jerking movie i guess, yes, ah sa may not be the very main cast inside, she is still a minor main..and furthermore, there are people who will support her and watch the movie for the sake of seeing her , it makes the result even decent worship.gif ..haha...
clelly
Twins new mandarin CD is coming out in june
http://global.yesasia.com/b5/PrdDept.aspx/...pid-1004275762/
aznpriders4lif
hmmmm if people support twins and talk about twins y do they only write in gillian's forum? what bout charlene?
it seems as if she is favoured more than charlene is...
blurgal
QUOTE(clelly @ May 5 2006 6 51 PM) [snapback]2370902[/snapback]

Twins new mandarin CD is coming out in june
http://global.yesasia.com/b5/PrdDept.aspx/...pid-1004275762/



yupx...heard that for taiwan, there will be a poster given too?

QUOTE(asainesesrox! @ May 5 2006 8 26 PM) [snapback]2371214[/snapback]

hmmmm if people support twins and talk about twins y do they only write in gillian's forum? what bout charlene?
it seems as if she is favoured more than charlene is...



haha...gil's fans are more verbal and active ^^... hug.gif so its rather nice to read this tongue.gif
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 4 2006 3 46 PM) [snapback]2368039[/snapback]

I'm definitely sure that Gillian holds more potential and talent in singing than all the people you've listed. But even so, I guess it's just impossible to try to guess EEG's plans. It's like the fact of the HK music industry; just because you have potential doesn't mean you'll be promoted, and just because you don't potential doesn't mean you won't be promoted either. huh.gif This is so depressing, but it's true. I suppose there is hope for Gillian. There are still chances of EEG promoting Gillian into a singing career since a company can never have too many talented singers, can they?

Well, I believe that highlights one of the many contributions to HK's slump. Everyone is playing favorites, not enough emphasis on potential and talent is exerted. Once an individual achieves success in one arena, he/she pursues the next; everything is completely rushed, cheap quality, and overdone. Not only do we watch the same exact stars on theatres, listen to their songs repeatedly on the radio, watch their television commercials when we're at home, see their faces on every mainstream magazine, and even eat our lunches with their face logos on our soft drinks/chips, it does become a bit overwhelming. blink.gif Once Gillian becomes a solo artist, I do hope that the marketing strategies will also change. Even though I enjoy Gillian onscreen but if concentrating in only one industry will be more beneficial, then I have no complaints.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 4 2006 3 46 PM) [snapback]2368039[/snapback]

Kary's voice definitely stands out, even back when there were nine people in Cookies. They were performing 'The Last Piece' on JSG, and Kary's voice stood out from all the other voices. In fact, her voice seemed to be the one leading everyone else's on, like as the base of the song. Another interesting thing is when the nine Cookies were divided up into three groups of three since there were three microphones, Stephy, Theresa, and Kary were the ones to stand in the middle of their groups. laugh.gif I guess that's where the original plans of pulling the three of them out of Cookies came from, but then I suppose Paco just changed his mind and downsized the group Cookies instead. Anyway, in many aspects, Kary's and Gillian's little situations and experiences are very similar. They seem to be the members of the group who are being limited of their talents because of the group structure. When being in a group, it's almost always that an individual can't do his/her best because of the consideration of the other member(s). Looks factored into their career as well; Kary had been denied many times because of her 'not so pretty looks', Gillian has been denied because of her 'fancy face looks'. blink.gif But they both have very unique and versatile voices, so as the depressing days end, their days to shine will finally come. It's happening for Kary, so I truly hope it will for Gillian soon. I've found that Kary and Gillian do have some similar singing ways, not surprising since they have the same singing teacher, but once I was listening to my mp3 at a low volume, and the noises around me got louder, so the music was merely like a whisper to my ears. A song came on, and I could only hear the tone of the singer but not the exact voice, so I was guessing it was probably Gillian singing, but it was actually Kary. wacko.gif But they both have potential in them; that's for sure. I really hope your prediction for Gillian will be as accurate as it was for Kary, asillysaint.

Impressive observations. Kary and Gillian have encountered numerous similar situations. We can only hope Gillian the best but apparently, it has already shown that Gillian is less fortunate than Kary. down.gif Opportunities are the main building blocks to success; sadly, Gillian is short of luck.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 4 2006 3 46 PM) [snapback]2368039[/snapback]
At least on CD, Charlene's notes could be adjusted to be higher to suit Kenny, but I still don't think it would turn out to be all that great. Kenny and Charlene both have the scratch in their voice, so clashing it wouldn't be the best idea. Yeah, 'Conscience Discovery' is one of the highest noted songs that Gillian has sung, and it's basically because she had to adjust so she'd correspond with Kenny's usage of notes. Another thing is, in Kenny's songs, you really gotta know how to stretch your voice, without breaking it too.

Scratch. Hm, that term seems to define both Kenny and Sa's voices so well; it's not anything bad by the way. It is a difficult position singing next to Kenny for any EEG female except for Joey and Vincy.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 4 2006 3 46 PM) [snapback]2368039[/snapback]
I swear, if I were the boss of EMG, I'd want to run myself into a wall when the final results of 'A Chinese Tall Story' came out. It was highly invested with about ten million HK$, with numerous promotions before the screening of the film, with so many EEG idols, and it was screened during Christmas time, which is the hot season for films, and it came out to a similar boxoffice result as '49 Days', which was a low budget film, with one promotion before its screening, idol attraction basically on based on Gillian herself, and it was shown during Chinese New Year, which is a rather quiet season for films. n_innocent.gif Does that ring a bell for anything?

With all of the extravagant promotions and excessive publicity, I was quite convinced that "A Chinese Tall Story" would do well, at least enough to cover all of the expensive investments, but the expectations weren't quite reached. Sometimes, a simple cast with a relatively different storyline just outshines the rest like 49 Days.

QUOTE(blurgal @ May 5 2006 1 49 AM) [snapback]2370584[/snapback]

-sometimes, ah sa can sing even higher than gillian you know ? ^^ haha..but i don really want ah sa to cooperate with kenny for a song cos i think their voices didnt really match well... heehee, it would be weird definitely seeing such a combination.. yes, by the way, kenny cant really sing too... i hate to say that but, he and steven (old boy'z) cant sing too... haha... they are more of being idols~ heehee

In reference to Sa's live performances, I've linked my observations to recent events of this year. So far, Sa hasn't been performing too well. When Sa begins stretching her voice towards the high notes, her vocals refuse and break. Sa sang decently before, just not sure what happened. It couldn't have been the time constraint or the busy film projects either because even Gillian experienced that tight schedule. Gillian only practiced right before the actual live performance and she still managed to sing quite well solo.

QUOTE(blurgal @ May 5 2006 1 49 AM) [snapback]2370584[/snapback]

simple songs or the music crew simplify the songs ?

if her voice is nice enough, even a simple song can touch people's heart and do wonders~ haha... and why wouldnt the crew give them the songs? there are several songs which are hard to manage, especially live Like 'duijia', i think they shouldnt perform that heehee ...and also, 德州的故事...they cant sing fast song live...hee, i cant stand them singing~ haha...*opps*

Gillian's solo, My Father, Mother, was quite a simple and touching song similarly to Yennis's. My Father, Mother was a beautiful song that had potential to become more emotional and in depth. There were many portions of My Father, Mother that could have used the rollercoaster affect vibratos introduce but there were none versus Yennis's song, simple yet full of vibratos that weren't necessarily required; nonetheless, created a gentle and smooth melody.

Actually, there was one tiny vibrato that could have been elaborated. I thought Gillian's voice was so beautiful during that short-lived part, 3:15.
QUOTE(blurgal @ May 5 2006 1 49 AM) [snapback]2370584[/snapback]

-no more areas to improve?

There are tons of them... they can still improve heaps if, IF EEG allows them, giving them time... Its really hard to imagine a singer introducing many many albums in a year while those, who really make an effort spend years or months to think of songs, etc, before their album is out... at least theirs show that they had worked hard enough...
even if twins want to improve on their singing, it seems that time disallows that.. they dont have sufficient time to do so.. taking up this project, going for a promotion for albums, award taking ceremony, shooting advertisments... down.gif down.gif thats sooo TIRING!!! * i would wan a break if i were in their shoes..if not, i am going to die from stress~* lolx clapping.gif

thus, there's still way for them to move on..life isnt just that short like alphabets...

Alphabets were part of an analogy. There is a beginning and an end. Twins have indirectly stalled each other's threshold of potential; it's only fair if both explore their own strengths alone. Both Twins have plentiful room for improvement but chances are, they probably won't discover that extremity remaining as Twins. It wouldn't have taken more than 5 years and we're still waiting for Twins to break the "improving" stage into something more sensational.

QUOTE(blurgal @ May 5 2006 1 49 AM) [snapback]2370584[/snapback]

-terminate Gillian's contract with a new contract that will cancel out the regulations of EEG's contract and also compensation for altering? Hmm..precisely there is no company like that out there, if there's this company, she would have already change the company..Its not as if if she wants to get out of eeg, she can... cluebat.gif and besides, gillian, i think, wont sort of like ''betray'' EEG and jump over..she isnt tat sort of person i guess..she is like an innocent girl like those with no desires to keep winning others,climbing all over people's heads... ^^

There are music labels that actually do that. I'm not exactly sure if any exist in HK since everything seems to be so monopolized in Asian countries. Even if such a company existed in HK, Gillian still wouldn't be able to commit such an inconsiderate selfish act due to her firm loyalty to EEG.

QUOTE(blurgal @ May 5 2006 1 49 AM) [snapback]2370584[/snapback]

- and as you mention the box office... Hong kong movies are like that... the stories and plots are mostly lame n_thumbdown.gif , like chang hen ge by sammi,i went to sleep not even half an hour later...but it was recognised and it had quite a hit among the box office too... hmmm arent Gillian the one? one of the reason y 49days has a REasonable box office hits is her isnt it.. People like you guys went to support her work..and i guess, that makes up quite a big part of it... also, furthermore, its promoted as a ghost story, something which would attracts people like me and my cousins who love ghost and frightening movie... haha...the show 'all about love' is a romance story/tear jerking movie i guess, yes, ah sa may not be the very main cast inside, she is still a minor main..and furthermore, there are people who will support her and watch the movie for the sake of seeing her , it makes the result even decent worship.gif ..haha...

Romance, Martial Arts, Horror, whichever film genre really doesn't matter. Of course, it's mainly Gillian that self-promoted 49 Days but can you imagine the multiplying success if big screen stars like Andy, Jackie, or even perhaps Nic joined the cast? That's the essence of this topic.

QUOTE(asainesesrox! @ May 5 2006 5 26 AM) [snapback]2371214[/snapback]

hmmmm if people support twins and talk about twins y do they only write in gillian's forum? what bout charlene?
it seems as if she is favoured more than charlene is...

Nowhere in the announcement rules did it mention Twins forbidden from being discussed in the Gillian Thread, likewise in the Sa thread. Gillian is part of Twins and Twins is a part of Gillian. I believe that's enough association to mention Twins, all five letters, in the Gillian Thread.

Sorry. Every now and then, these posts bother me. wacko.gif
Gill#1Fan
Guess our hope with Gillian being the female lead in Kenny new movie is gone. I read from another forum that it will be Fiona. And I was really hoping for a KG movie which turns out into a Kenny and Fiona movie
c a t h y
QUOTE(blurgal @ May 5 2006 9 49 AM) [snapback]2370584[/snapback]

- and as you mention the box office... Hong kong movies are like that... the stories and plots are mostly lame n_thumbdown.gif , like chang hen ge by sammi,i went to sleep not even half an hour later...but it was recognised and it had quite a hit among the box office too... hmmm arent Gillian the one? one of the reason y 49days has a REasonable box office hits is her isnt it.. People like you guys went to support her work..and i guess, that makes up quite a big part of it... also, furthermore, its promoted as a ghost story, something which would attracts people like me and my cousins who love ghost and frightening movie... haha...the show 'all about love' is a romance story/tear jerking movie i guess, yes, ah sa may not be the very main cast inside, she is still a minor main..and furthermore, there are people who will support her and watch the movie for the sake of seeing her , it makes the result even decent worship.gif ..haha...

Um....Sammi's movie (Everlasting Regret) didn't do that well, boxoffice wise (in Hong Kong, at least). From memory, the boxoffice was below that of 49 Days...

QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ May 5 2006 9 54 PM) [snapback]2373029[/snapback]

Guess our hope with Gillian being the female lead in Kenny new movie is gone. I read from another forum that it will be Fiona. And I was really hoping for a KG movie which turns out into a Kenny and Fiona movie


That's a different movie produced by Derek Yee.. EMG is thinking of investing in another movie with Kenny as the male lead...I really hope Gillian will get a chance to star in a movie directed by Derek Yee.........
Gill#1Fan
QUOTE(CathyW @ May 5 2006 5 09 PM) [snapback]2373069[/snapback]

That's a different movie produced by Derek Yee.. EMG are thinking of investing in another movie with Kenny as the male lead...I really hope Gillian would get a chance to star in a movie directed by Derek Yee.........


Oh it is? Oo I didn't know that. Well then my hopes are still up if that's not the movie!

I haven't download the radio drama yet and I'm wondering could someone upload it by chapters by chapters because my internet is still slow and I can't download a big file! Thanks!
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 1 51 PM) [snapback]2372795[/snapback]

Well, I believe that highlights one of the many contributions to HK's slump. Everyone is playing favorites, not enough emphasis on potential and talent is exerted. Once an individual achieves success in one arena, he/she pursues the next; everything is completely rushed, cheap quality, and overdone. Not only do we watch the same exact stars on theatres, listen to their songs repeatedly on the radio, watch their television commercials when we're at home, see their faces on every mainstream magazine, and even eat our lunches with their face logos on our soft drinks/chips, it does become a bit overwhelming. blink.gif Once Gillian becomes a solo artist, I do hope that the marketing strategies will also change. Even though I enjoy Gillian onscreen but if concentrating in only one industry will be more beneficial, then I have no complaints.

That does happen, but unfortunately strategies of sticking artistes EVERYWHERE do work in some cases. When a company makes the decision to promote someone, one of the strategies is to put them everywhere. It does work sometimes because people do get used to seeing them everywhere; it's like the 'can't change it so must as well live with it' sort of thing. So many things are based on favortism. That's why I think the 903 music chart isn't exactly the most honourable chart to be on; instead of calling it a music chart, it's basically the "Who is Favoured by 903?" chart because the places that the songs receive is based on how many times the DJs play the songs. Obviously if the DJ likes the artiste/song, he/she would play it more, so it's not exactly how well-liked the song is by the general audience. I hope that Gillian will at least get considerate amounts of exposure/promotions. I doubt that we would be seeing her everywhere, and we'd be in luck if we see her in a few places at least. Concentrating on one or more industries really depends on the management company and the artiste. Who knows? If only concentrating in one industry can shed off most flaws and make tremendous improvements, then Gillian should go right on to doing it. yeah.gif
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 1 51 PM) [snapback]2372795[/snapback]

Impressive observations. Kary and Gillian have encountered numerous similar situations. We can only hope Gillian the best but apparently, it has already shown that Gillian is less fortunate than Kary. down.gif Opportunities are the main building blocks to success; sadly, Gillian is short of luck.

Yes, Kary and Gillian have had similar unfortunate encounters, but Kary is luckier because she has a good manager who's not overbearing over biasedness and realizes what kind of potential she possesses in her. I really hope the tables will turn for Gillian somehow. It will be her time to shine.
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 1 51 PM) [snapback]2372795[/snapback]

In reference to Sa's live performances, I've linked my observations to recent events of this year. So far, Sa hasn't been performing too well. When Sa begins stretching her voice towards the high notes, her vocals refuse and break. Sa sang decently before, just not sure what happened. It couldn't have been the time constraint or the busy film projects either because even Gillian experienced that tight schedule. Gillian only practiced right before the actual live performance and she still managed to sing quite well solo.

Gillian's solo, My Father, Mother, was quite a simple and touching song similarly to Yennis's. My Father, Mother was a beautiful song that had potential to become more emotional and in depth. There were many portions of My Father, Mother that could have used the rollercoaster affect vibratos introduce but there were none versus Yennis's song, simple yet full of vibratos that weren't necessarily required; nonetheless, created a gentle and smooth melody.

Actually, there was one tiny vibrato that could have been elaborated. I thought Gillian's voice was so beautiful during that short-lived part, 3:15.

I think that's where our observations of how Charlene is way more capable of singing stable standard notes rather than the rollercoaster notes. It's nice that Charlene had actually tried to sing the right notes for 'Kindergarten' on JSG instead of adjusting and lowering the notes, but unfortunately her vocals ended up cracking during the high notes. It wasn't that audible because Gillian was singing with her, and she helped cover it up. I don't think it's because of the workload either because Gillian's one or two more performance(s) than Charlene couldn't have made that much of a difference, in my opinion. With how busy they are, I'm not surprised if they only practiced when the time of actually performing came near.

Come to think of it, 'My Father, Mother' seems to be one of the few songs that actually had a part of considerate stretches of the vocals that Gillian has sung. You know at the part near the end, where she sang, "I'd rather not understand the society; I'm the most grand within my home. Please don't blame, but if you have to, you can only blame that I have already entered the adult world. Ha........" Those are my favourites lyrics of the song because they're so meaningful, and Gillian actually gets to do a bit of stretching even if it's not much. smile.gif
asillysaint
Hm, today must not really be a good day.

You know what bothers me most at the moment? wacko.gif Ever since Twins united to film a commercial, attend a press conference, present themselves at various functions as Twins, to now, the beginning of a series of promotions for their upcoming Mandarin Album, Gillian has been nothing but a silent doll or that is how almost every article portrays Gillian. Gillian only has one, one small line to express her teeny tiny opinion or none at all. This latest article posted here just sort of upset me when only Sa's opinion about their fashion was published. I'm pretty sure the reporter had a whole bunch of questions answered including Gillian's responses, so why silence Gillian? Actually, rarely do I ever come across a piece of news article that publishes Gillian quotes more than Sa quotes when Twins are together even when it's a scandal involving only Gillian. This pattern just began again when both Twins returned to HK to regroup; coincidently, when Mani returned back to HK as well. I was quite fine with the first few articles as I expected the context of the news articles to perhaps alternate with their cover stories and quotes on each Twin, but unfortunately, everything seems to fall back into its usual dark days for Gillian. This is a small matter to Sa fans, it's always a small matter isn't it? If so, just ignore this rambling. I just wanted to share my current opinions.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 4 11 PM) [snapback]2373486[/snapback]

That does happen, but unfortunately strategies of sticking artistes EVERYWHERE do work in some cases. When a company makes the decision to promote someone, one of the strategies is to put them everywhere. It does work sometimes because people do get used to seeing them everywhere; it's like the 'can't change it so must as well live with it' sort of thing. So many things are based on favortism. That's why I think the 903 music chart isn't exactly the most honourable chart to be on; instead of calling it a music chart, it's basically the "Who is Favoured by 903?" chart because the places that the songs receive is based on how many times the DJs play the songs. Obviously if the DJ likes the artiste/song, he/she would play it more, so it's not exactly how well-liked the song is by the general audience. I hope that Gillian will at least get considerate amounts of exposure/promotions. I doubt that we would be seeing her everywhere, and we'd be in luck if we see her in a few places at least. Concentrating on one or more industries really depends on the management company and the artiste. Who knows? If only concentrating in one industry can shed off most flaws and make tremendous improvements, then Gillian should go right on to doing it. yeah.gif

I agree, this marketing method does work in the beginning when the artists are still new blood but after a while, the audience are terribly burned out and demand refreshments. I guess, Andy hasn't exhausted his fans from support yet because: 1. HK lacks replacements for the Heavenly Four Kings. 2. The Heavenly Four Kings have established a permanent home in HK, they're considered legends and legends aren't forgotten. But Twins? Sadly, at times I'm a bit worn out from supporting them in all areas. I guess, the trends have changed as well in fans. With everything altogether, fans lose patience somewhere along the way and aren't able to maintain their support for 20 years like Andy Fans.

F4 was once extrememly popular internationally. They held a worldwide concert tour in which a lot of my friends attended over here in Las Vegas. F4 had all the reasons in the world to flood the market with their Charming Pretty Boy looks, but they didn't. Of course, F4 merchandise ranging from keychains to simple school supplies were crafted into the market but they didn't overly mass produce themselves like Twins. Anyways, I'm going off topic.

Favoritism. TVB, the main television corporation of HK, EEG, a successful music label, Award Ceremonies, and even Music Charts participate in this streak of favoritism. What more can we hope for now?

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 4 11 PM) [snapback]2373486[/snapback]
I think that's where our observations of how Charlene is way more capable of singing stable standard notes rather than the rollercoaster notes. It's nice that Charlene had actually tried to sing the right notes for 'Kindergarten' on JSG instead of adjusting and lowering the notes, but unfortunately her vocals ended up cracking during the high notes. It wasn't that audible because Gillian was singing with her, and she helped cover it up. I don't think it's because of the workload either because Gillian's one or two more performance(s) than Charlene couldn't have made that much of a difference, in my opinion. With how busy they are, I'm not surprised if they only practiced when the time of actually performing came near.

Come to think of it, 'My Father, Mother' seems to be one of the few songs that actually had a part of considerate stretches of the vocals that Gillian has sung. You know at the part near the end, where she sang, "I'd rather not understand the society; I'm the most grand within my home. Please don't blame, but if you have to, you can only blame that I have already entered the adult world. Ha........" Those are my favourites lyrics of the song because they're so meaningful, and Gillian actually gets to do a bit of stretching even if it's not much. smile.gif

Hm, I guess there would always be fans making excuses for Sa's live singing. All I'm trying to say is, Sa couldn't execute the high notes when it was necessary and this is Twins 5+ year in the music industry. Gillian is gradually improving as well but one thing, don't regress, which is the current situation for Sa. I'm not debating whether she can or cannot. I would hope to hear improvements but really, this is not based on the fact that I support Gillian.

Yes, My Father, Mother was quite on target in measurement of Gillian's singing potential. I've never heard Gillian sing My Father, Mother with errors. She pretty much mastered every note. My Father, Mother does contain sharp highs and steep lows, suitable for Gillian's versatile voice. I really hope that Gillian's new solo will range similarly but with vibratos. I know that different singing artists have their own style of singing but vibratos really reveal how well a singer can control his/her vocals and respiration as they stretch their voices and echo out the notes. Anyone can stretch their voice without the vibratos. Stretching with vibratos are much more difficult to achieve; therefore, much more significant.
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 6 05 PM) [snapback]2373721[/snapback]

Hm, today must not really be a good day.

You know what bothers me most at the moment? wacko.gif Ever since Twins united to film a commercial, attend a press conference, present themselves at various functions as Twins, to now, the beginning of a series of promotions for their upcoming Mandarin Album, Gillian has been nothing but a silent doll or that is how almost every article portrays Gillian. Gillian only has one, one small line to express her teeny tiny opinion or none at all. This latest article posted here just sort of upset me when only Sa's opinion about their fashion was published. I'm pretty sure the reporter had a whole bunch of questions answered including Gillian's responses, so why silence Gillian? Actually, rarely do I ever come across a piece of news article that publishes Gillian quotes more than Sa quotes when Twins are together even when it's a scandal involving only Gillian. This pattern just began again when both Twins returned to HK to regroup; coincidently, when Mani returned back to HK as well. I was quite fine with the first few articles as I expected the context of the news articles to perhaps alternate with their cover stories and quotes on each Twin, but unfortunately, everything seems to fall back into its usual dark days for Gillian. This is a small matter to Sa fans, it's always a small matter isn't it? If so, just ignore this rambling. I just wanted to share my current opinions.

It's true; everything seems to be back where it started. It was kind of expected that it would happen though. Sometimes it's the writing of the media, but at other times it's also the translations posted here in the forum. There were quite a few pieces of news posted earlier and throughout about Twins, and within these translated articles, the translator(s) frequently leaves numerous things out (May I just point out that these things do often include Gillian's words of speech. rolleyes.gif ) or make errors of what was actually written. I usually notice it because I usually read the chinese version of it. But for other times, articles do quote Charlene more than Gillian for the most part, unless a really stunning thing happens solely on Gillian, then she'll be focused on more, like the news with the brothel lamps in Japan. The news about the Twins shooting their CD cover, and only Charlene voicing her fashion opinions is kinda weird though; the news is practically the same for each and every newspaper. Usually newspapers each have some kind of different information, but this time everything's the same, just the wording's different. blink.gif
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 6 05 PM) [snapback]2373721[/snapback]

I agree, this marketing method does work in the beginning when the artists are still new blood but after a while, the audience are terribly burned out and demand refreshments. I guess, Andy hasn't exhausted his fans from support yet because: 1. HK lacks replacements for the Heavenly Four Kings. 2. The Heavenly Four Kings have established a permanent home in HK, they're considered legends and legends aren't forgotten. But Twins? Sadly, at times I'm a bit worn out from supporting them in all areas. I guess, the trends have changed as well in fans. With everything altogether, fans lose patience somewhere along the way and aren't able to maintain their support for 20 years like Andy Fans.

F4 was once extrememly popular internationally. They held a worldwide concert tour in which a lot of my friends attended over here in Las Vegas. F4 had all the reasons in the world to flood the market with their Charming Pretty Boy looks, but they didn't. Of course, F4 merchandise ranging from keychains to simple school supplies were crafted into the market but they didn't overly mass produce themselves like Twins. Anyways, I'm going off topic.

Favoritism. TVB, the main television corporation of HK, EEG, a successful music label, Award Ceremonies, and even Music Charts participate in this streak of favoritism. What more can we hope for now?

EEG is wearing Twins fans out. I mean, with Twins being a part of everything, do they really think everyone's made out of money? Just go search on yesasia, and we see all these Twins-related things that are pretty worthless. What's one supposed to do with a cushion that merely says 'Twins' on it? $30 for a cushion that says 'Twins' on it? Can you believe it? Hopefully, when Gillian goes solo, she will base herself more on quality than quantity; actually, I don't quite worry about the quantity of her exposure, but enough consideration on the quality of her work would be appreciated. innocent.gif
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 6 05 PM) [snapback]2373721[/snapback]

Yes, My Father, Mother was quite on target in measurement of Gillian's singing potential. I've never heard Gillian sing My Father, Mother with errors. She pretty much mastered every note. My Father, Mother does contain sharp highs and steep lows, suitable for Gillian's versatile voice. I really hope that Gillian's new solo will range similarly but with vibratos. I know that different singing artists have their own style of singing but vibratos really reveal how well a singer can control his/her vocals and respiration as they stretch their voices and echo out the notes. Anyone can stretch their voice without the vibratos. Stretching with vibratos are much more difficult to achieve; therefore, much more significant.

Yeah, hopefully Gillian's upcoming solo will be able to exceed what she's done in 'My Father, Mother' because it's not that hard to exceed what she's already mastered from performing the song. I just hope that she will have the opportunity to do it. 'My Father, Mother' was the best song that Gillian performed during the 2004 concert, actually; well, in my opinion anyway. It was the one song that she was really free and relaxed of performing. It'd be great if Gillian could explore around and find out her own personal style of singing as well. I'd love to hear what else she could do with her versatile voice! infatuated.gif Gillian's never exactly attempted her singing with any vibratos, and I'm sure she would even be amazed by what she can do. Sometimes one just needs to feel around to find exactly what is suitable for themselves, and the achievements will be amazing.
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 7 06 PM) [snapback]2374166[/snapback]

It's true; everything seems to be back where it started. It was kind of expected that it would happen though. Sometimes it's the writing of the media, but at other times it's also the translations posted here in the forum. There were quite a few pieces of news posted earlier and throughout about Twins, and within these translated articles, the translator(s) frequently leaves numerous things out (May I just point out that these things do often include Gillian's words of speech. rolleyes.gif ) or make errors of what was actually written. I usually notice it because I usually read the chinese version of it. But for other times, articles do quote Charlene more than Gillian for the most part, unless a really stunning thing happens solely on Gillian, then she'll be focused on more, like the news with the brothel lamps in Japan. The news about the Twins shooting their CD cover, and only Charlene voicing her fashion opinions is kinda weird though; the news is practically the same for each and every newspaper. Usually newspapers each have some kind of different information, but this time everything's the same, just the wording's different. blink.gif

Hm, that's sad. Even translators onboard mislead the fans a certain way. Oh well. Like you've said, once Twins regroup, it's already so predictable how things will fall. I'm just a bit disappointed and suffocated in place for Gillian. Gillian was praised for her solo performances in Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain and live singing events but now, she has to take a step back as Twins. down.gif

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 7 06 PM) [snapback]2374166[/snapback]
Yeah, hopefully Gillian's upcoming solo will be able to exceed what she's done in 'My Father, Mother' because it's not that hard to exceed what she's already mastered from performing the song. I just hope that she will have the opportunity to do it. 'My Father, Mother' was the best song that Gillian performed during the 2004 concert, actually; well, in my opinion anyway. It was the one song that she was really free and relaxed of performing. It'd be great if Gillian could explore around and find out her own personal style of singing as well. I'd love to hear what else she could do with her versatile voice! infatuated.gif Gillian's never exactly attempted her singing with any vibratos, and I'm sure she would even be amazed by what she can do. Sometimes one just needs to feel around to find exactly what is suitable for themselves, and the achievements will be amazing.

I was anticipating on Gillian singing at least one ballad during the Twins Concert 2006 even if it was a repeated performance of My Father, Mother. Somehow that song in particular compliments Gillian's voice; Gillian immediately transforms into an extremely emotional and strong singer in both the highs and lows. Gillian's solos are usually so soothing, meaningful, and rare. I do hope as well that Gillian's next solo will consist of vibratos.

Here's Twins Full CD Quality Version of Hover Bird that will most likely be included in their upcoming Mandarin Album.
http://download.yousendit.com/6076252679633496

Be prepared to hear and watch Twins perform Hover Bird repeatedly like No Tears In Moscow. But I am a bit afraid that Twins as a pair may not be able to deliver the song wonderfully. Twins' live performance of No Tears In Moscow terrified me a bit last time and it was a relatively simple song with no stretches at all; it was an easy sing along. Hover Bird is quite high and a bit more difficult to sing than No Tears In Moscow, I can only hope all goes well for both. If only Twins can synchronize like this live, the songs would turn out beautiful. This song is gentle. Hopefully, there won't be another battle between Twins in who sings the loudest when they're performing it live. whistle.gif

From this full clear version, Gillian definitely performed well in her recent solo. Hm, I have no doubt that Gillian will improve her upcoming live performances especially Hover Bird, but I'm not so sure about the result of Twins together in general.
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 8 58 PM) [snapback]2374369[/snapback]

Hm, that's sad. Even translators onboard mislead the fans a certain way. Oh well. Like you've said, once Twins regroup, it's already so predictable how things will fall. I'm just a bit disappointed and suffocated in place for Gillian. Gillian was praised for her solo performances in Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain and live singing events but now, she has to take a step back as Twins. down.gif

I'm sure Gillian will receive more exposure and recognition when 'Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain' broadcasts in Mainland/Taiwan. Then she can show people that she is able to act, and not just a pretty face. yeah.gif She may have to endure more than she has to right now, but her time to shine will come upon her sooner or later.
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 8 58 PM) [snapback]2374369[/snapback]

I was anticipating on Gillian singing at least one ballad during the Twins Concert 2006 even if it was a repeated performance of My Father, Mother. Somehow that song in particular compliments Gillian's voice; Gillian immediately transforms into an extremely emotional and strong singer in both the highs and lows. Gillian's solos are usually so soothing, meaningful, and rare. I do hope as well that Gillian's next solo will consist of vibratos.

Here's Twins Full CD Quality Version of Hover Bird that will most likely be included in their upcoming Mandarin Album.
http://download.yousendit.com/6076252679633496

Be prepared to hear and watch Twins perform Hover Bird repeatedly like No Tears In Moscow. But I am a bit afraid that Twins as a pair may not be able to deliver the song wonderfully. Twins' live performance of No Tears In Moscow terrified me a bit last time and it was a relatively simple song with no stretches at all; it was an easy sing along. Hover Bird is quite high and a bit more difficult to sing than No Tears In Moscow, I can only hope all goes well for both. If only Twins can synchronize like this live, the songs would turn out beautiful. This song is gentle. Hopefully, there won't be another battle between Twins in who sings the loudest when they're performing it live. whistle.gif

From this full clear version, Gillian definitely performed well in her recent solo. Hm, I have no doubt that Gillian will improve her upcoming live performances especially Hover Bird, but I'm not so sure about the result of Twins together in general.

It's a bit of a pity that 'My Father, Mother' will most likely not be performed live at any time soon. down.gif I suppose unless Charlene is also doing 'Next Stop Diva Queen' solo as well, Gillian won't be performing 'My Father, Mother' either. We would definitely hear an improved version of 'My Father, Mother' after the improvements that Gillian has made with her high notes. I bet it'd come out to be more emotional and strong than before. Perhaps Gillian could even sneak a few vibratos into the song while she's at it. shifty.gif I believe that this song compliments Gillian because it really is Gillian's own personal song. It's not a Twins song, but a real definite Gillian Chung song. With stating that fact, Gillian can obviously perform it how it suits her without worrying about how the Twins version went, and other factors.

Hm, after hearing this CD version, I really think I prefer Gillian's recent solo performance of it more. The high notes sound more soothing and comfortable with how Gillian recently portrayed it. This CD version seemed so.... plain. blink.gif It also sounded like Twins' voices were mixed quite a bit in this song, so I think we should prepare that they might experience some difficulties while performing this together. sweat.gif
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 8 23 PM) [snapback]2374485[/snapback]

I'm sure Gillian will receive more exposure and recognition when 'Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain' broadcasts in Mainland/Taiwan. Then she can show people that she is able to act, and not just a pretty face. yeah.gif She may have to endure more than she has to right now, but her time to shine will come upon her sooner or later.

Gillian has invested all of her sleep, health, and sanity into this serial; hopefully, it will be an extremely successful hit on television. No matter how others view Gillian, she'll always shine in my eyes. blush.gif

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 8 23 PM) [snapback]2374485[/snapback]

It's a bit of a pity that 'My Father, Mother' will most likely not be performed live at any time soon. down.gif I suppose unless Charlene is also doing 'Next Stop Diva Queen' solo as well, Gillian won't be performing 'My Father, Mother' either. We would definitely hear an improved version of 'My Father, Mother' after the improvements that Gillian has made with her high notes. I bet it'd come out to be more emotional and strong than before. Perhaps Gillian could even sneak a few vibratos into the song while she's at it. shifty.gif I believe that this song compliments Gillian because it really is Gillian's own personal song. It's not a Twins song, but a real definite Gillian Chung song. With stating that fact, Gillian can obviously perform it how it suits her without worrying about how the Twins version went, and other factors.

Hm, after hearing this CD version, I really think I prefer Gillian's recent solo performance of it more. The high notes sound more soothing and comfortable with how Gillian recently portrayed it. This CD version seemed so.... plain. blink.gif It also sounded like Twins' voices were mixed quite a bit in this song, so I think we should prepare that they might experience some difficulties while performing this together. sweat.gif

Yeah, that is the usual format if we wish to hear an updated version of My Father, Mother. But we've already heard so many versions of Next Stop Diva Queen, it becomes a bit redundant. As for My Father, Mother, it's such a special song for rare occasions.

I wonder if Gillian practiced the higher notes of Hover Bird beforehand or did Gillian just all of a sudden decide to grasp a softer tune with the higher notes onstage? Gillian could have surprised her assistants by altering the notes and defeated the self-challenge onstage when the high notes were reached quite well. Gillian has definitely adopted the altering technique to compliment her voice like Sa, perhaps Gillian can sneak in a few vibratos in her next live performances. 1.gif

Twins better practice training their vocals before they begin their promotional tour. This song is quite complicated for Twins. Twins performed almost decent with Life Saver but I'm not so certain about this version.
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 9 45 PM) [snapback]2374565[/snapback]

Gillian has invested all of her sleep, health, and sanity into this serial; hopefully, it will be an extremely successful hit on television. No matter how others view Gillian, she'll always shine in my eyes. blush.gif

Yes, just with all the hardwork that Gillian has put into this series, she deserves some recognition for it. Her role seems to be interesting to begin with, and with Gillian's sensation added to it, it brings a whole new anticipation. Then the Mainland audience will be introduced to how Gillian Chung handles her presence on-screen. Seriously, Mainland people do not have the opportunity to see Gillian act very often, as opposed to Charlene.
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 5 2006 9 45 PM) [snapback]2374565[/snapback]

Yeah, that is the usual format if we wish to hear an updated version of My Father, Mother. But we've already heard so many versions of Next Stop Diva Queen, it becomes a bit redundant. As for My Father, Mother, it's such a special song for rare occasions.

I wonder if Gillian practiced the higher notes of Hover Bird beforehand or did Gillian just all of a sudden decide to grasp a softer tune with the higher notes onstage? Gillian could have surprised her assistants by altering the notes and defeated the self-challenge onstage when the high notes were reached quite well. Gillian has definitely adopted the altering technique to compliment her voice like Sa, perhaps Gillian can sneak in a few vibratos in her next live performances. 1.gif

Twins better practice training their vocals before they begin their promotional tour. This song is quite complicated for Twins. Twins performed almost decent with Life Saver but I'm not so certain about this version.

I don't think the performance of 'My Father, Mother' would be possible in any aspect; singers usually sing their most updated songs during events and functions, so even if there is another time where Gillian gets to perform alone, she'd most likely perform Twins' most updated song or the song they got the award for. down.gif We might be able to hear 'My Father, Mother' if Twins have some sort of a mini concert where they can sing some of their old songs (Their upcoming tour concerts will probably be a replica of the 2006 concert, so 'My Father, Mother' won't be performed.), or if someone else has a concert, and Gillian goes as a guest performer. shifty.gif Then we might hear her sing her personal song. 'Next Stop Diva Queen' has been heard so many times, and though it's a classic of Twins, it's not as fresh as if we are able to hear 'My Father, Mother' being performed.

Haha, the altering technique! loool.gif No matter which situation it was, Gillian sure made a good choice of attempting to sing it in a higher tone; the outcome sure was great! I suppose altering the notes at times isn't at all a bad thing, but the singer just has to be aware to not change the whole essence of the song or to overdo it; otherwise, it's a great thing to do if altering the notes is able to compliment the singer's voice and the whole song itself. smile.gif I'm looking forward to hearing more live performances of Gillian; I wonder if she will make more attempts of different styles of singing and perhaps also sneaking in a few vibratos here and there to compliment herself and the song? dance.gif

I never thought I'd worry for this, but I worry of how Twins' voices will synchronize now. I always thought that Twins' voices synchronize very well with each other, but now their voices seem so scattered from each other. Perhaps they didn't practice with each other recently? 'Hover Bird' feels like it's got to be performed differently than 'Lifesaver' since it's a whole different meaning to the songs, so a different set of emotions should be needed. I hope they will practice hardcore before their next performances, and I hope Twins' performance of 'Hover Bird' will be just as good as Gillian's solo of it. We will find out about that soon because I read that Twins will be participating in this event, and they will be singing 'Kindergarten' and 'Hover Bird' during the event.
Gill#1Fan
Here are some pictures from their new mando album

IPB Image

IPB Image

And I thought that they left the "cute" image and to me these 2 pictures doesn't seem like it. Espically Charlene in the second picture with her lips like that.
bluehearts
QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 6 2006 3 58 AM) [snapback]2374369[/snapback]

Hm, that's sad. Even translators onboard mislead the fans a certain way. Oh well. Like you've said, once Twins regroup, it's already so predictable how things will fall. I'm just a bit disappointed and suffocated in place for Gillian. Gillian was praised for her solo performances in Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain and live singing events but now, she has to take a step back as Twins. down.gif
I was anticipating on Gillian singing at least one ballad during the Twins Concert 2006 even if it was a repeated performance of My Father, Mother. Somehow that song in particular compliments Gillian's voice; Gillian immediately transforms into an extremely emotional and strong singer in both the highs and lows. Gillian's solos are usually so soothing, meaningful, and rare. I do hope as well that Gillian's next solo will consist of vibratos.

This seems so predictable..once Twins join together..things would be more one-sided. I just hope that we would hear more news of Gillian soon...

Yup, I think My Father, Mother is a really soothing and meaningful song too! The music is not as catchy as Charlene's solo but I love the soothing-ness of Gillian's. It's like listening to a classical/instrumental song in a way. I think it's really unique in its own way and it just kinds of gets addicting after a few replays like Conscience Discovery.

QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 6 2006 3 58 AM) [snapback]2374369[/snapback]

Here's Twins Full CD Quality Version of Hover Bird that will most likely be included in their upcoming Mandarin Album.
http://download.yousendit.com/6076252679633496

Be prepared to hear and watch Twins perform Hover Bird repeatedly like No Tears In Moscow. But I am a bit afraid that Twins as a pair may not be able to deliver the song wonderfully. Twins' live performance of No Tears In Moscow terrified me a bit last time and it was a relatively simple song with no stretches at all; it was an easy sing along. Hover Bird is quite high and a bit more difficult to sing than No Tears In Moscow, I can only hope all goes well for both. If only Twins can synchronize like this live, the songs would turn out beautiful. This song is gentle. Hopefully, there won't be another battle between Twins in who sings the loudest when they're performing it live. whistle.gif

From this full clear version, Gillian definitely performed well in her recent solo. Hm, I have no doubt that Gillian will improve her upcoming live performances especially Hover Bird, but I'm not so sure about the result of Twins together in general.

OMG..forget what I just said...I just notice I muted one of the speakers so Charlene's voice was not that audible..lolx...How embarassing...
Shortyyy126
ugh, to be honest, i don't really like their new look. =T i understand that they're trying to match their style with the ridiculous title of "around the world with 80 dollars" (it is funny though). but i was REALLLYYYY expecting something more. i have no words to express what that "more" is, but it's definately not this type of look. =T oh well, i hope the numerous other pictures will show different styles. =T but of course, if they produce good songs, i would care less about the image. laugh.gif
Gill#1Fan
Hm...saw the clip of Twins in Bangkok for the MTV Asia Award 06 and Twins english are so cute! Also the two people who gave the award to them gave them a friendly kiss.
bluehearts
QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 6 2006 6 22 PM) [snapback]2377051[/snapback]

ugh, to be honest, i don't really like their new look. =T i understand that they're trying to match their style with the ridiculous title of "around the world with 80 dollars" (it is funny though). but i was REALLLYYYY expecting something more. i have no words to express what that "more" is, but it's definately not this type of look. =T oh well, i hope the numerous other pictures will show different styles. =T but of course, if they produce good songs, i would care less about the image. laugh.gif

The images are kind of weird just like their album title...I find the title will just make people who dislike Twins, don't like them more or just more immature than they appeared. I hope they have nice songs in their mandarin album..I listened to their new song but I don't really like the music/tune. It's just not my taste, I guess.

QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ May 6 2006 9 33 PM) [snapback]2377749[/snapback]

Hm...saw the clip of Twins in Bangkok for the MTV Asia Award 06 and Twins english are so cute! Also the two people who gave the award to them gave them a friendly kiss.

Did their english improve?? I think Gillian's english is pretty acceptable. She just needs more practice on using english "on the spot" eg. the "House of Fury" Interview. She just needs help on forming the sentence and using the right words but her pronounciation is really clear with a light accent. innocent.gif

Oh...another on-screen kiss for Gillian..lolx..I think it's two girl host though, right?? Hey, do you have the clip?? yeah.gif
xlai-wong-baox
QUOTE(bluehearts @ May 7 2006 12 16 AM) [snapback]2378187[/snapback]

The images are kind of weird just like their album title...I find the title will just make people who dislike Twins, don't like them more or just more immature than they appeared. I hope they have nice songs in their mandarin album..I listened to their new song but I don't really like the music/tune. It's just not my taste, I guess.
Did their english improve?? I think Gillian's english is pretty acceptable. She just needs more practice on using english "on the spot" eg. the "House of Fury" Interview. She just needs help on forming the sentence and using the right words but her pronounciation is really clear with a light accent. innocent.gif

Oh...another on-screen kiss for Gillian..lolx..I think it's two girl host though, right?? Hey, do you have the clip?? yeah.gif


They were two GUY hosts! Lol.
Gill#1Fan
Yeah the two hosts were white guys lol. Yeah Gillie english improved and she used a big word: "espically" lol. Charlene english was cute, but her had a some what Chinese accent to it but it sound perfect too. I think they practiced their lines alot to get out some perfect english!

Heres the link:

http://download.yousendit.com/F179B521288D484B
Shortyyy126
QUOTE(bluehearts @ May 6 2006 7 16 PM) [snapback]2378187[/snapback]

The images are kind of weird just like their album title...I find the title will just make people who dislike Twins, don't like them more or just more immature than they appeared. I hope they have nice songs in their mandarin album..I listened to their new song but I don't really like the music/tune. It's just not my taste, I guess.
Did their english improve?? I think Gillian's english is pretty acceptable. She just needs more practice on using english "on the spot" eg. the "House of Fury" Interview. She just needs help on forming the sentence and using the right words but her pronounciation is really clear with a light accent. innocent.gif

Oh...another on-screen kiss for Gillian..lolx..I think it's two girl host though, right?? Hey, do you have the clip?? yeah.gif


yea, the title of their album is pretty ridiculous, and a little plagiarized? hm... dry.gif but omg, i think even i can come up with a better image for them. sweat.gif but whatever, what's done is done. lol. personally, i like the new manderin song. it's entirely different from the songs in the past, which is undoubtly good. ;D now people can actually quit saying that twins' productions are repetitive. xP anyhow, i won't get my hopes up just because of one song....

fortunately their english improved. but then again, they only spoke a few lines, which with the right amount of practice can be spoken fluently. but yes, i agree that it was really cute how they spoke it. xD hehe. and their attitudes were so energetic and excited. as i mentioned in another forum; they did just win the mtv asia's best hk artist award, so they couldn't be anything but happy and excited. xD

wouldn't it be crazy if twins improved their english so much that it is acceptable to the americans, so that they can enter hollywood to film some movies? laugh.gif (yea, just a random though xp)
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 10 33 PM) [snapback]2375010[/snapback]
Haha, the altering technique! loool.gif No matter which situation it was, Gillian sure made a good choice of attempting to sing it in a higher tone; the outcome sure was great! I suppose altering the notes at times isn't at all a bad thing, but the singer just has to be aware to not change the whole essence of the song or to overdo it; otherwise, it's a great thing to do if altering the notes is able to compliment the singer's voice and the whole song itself. smile.gif I'm looking forward to hearing more live performances of Gillian; I wonder if she will make more attempts of different styles of singing and perhaps also sneaking in a few vibratos here and there to compliment herself and the song? dance.gif

I never thought I'd worry for this, but I worry of how Twins' voices will synchronize now. I always thought that Twins' voices synchronize very well with each other, but now their voices seem so scattered from each other. Perhaps they didn't practice with each other recently? 'Hover Bird' feels like it's got to be performed differently than 'Lifesaver' since it's a whole different meaning to the songs, so a different set of emotions should be needed. I hope they will practice hardcore before their next performances, and I hope Twins' performance of 'Hover Bird' will be just as good as Gillian's solo of it. We will find out about that soon because I read that Twins will be participating in this event, and they will be singing 'Kindergarten' and 'Hover Bird' during the event.

Alterations aren't always for the worse. In Gillian's case, she altered the notes to a higher, more challenging approach which turned out quite well. Vibratos are what should be next on Gillian's Alterations List. 1.gif

I'm pretty sure Twins have buckled down in seriously practicing with each other. I can't wait until their next live performances. Hm, if there is another song Twins are planning to recreate into a Mandarin version, I would love to hear "Kindergarten."

QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ May 6 2006 5 06 AM) [snapback]2375975[/snapback]

Here are some pictures from their new mando album

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8970/twinzss1lk.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7376/tw...newalbum6jg.jpg

And I thought that they left the "cute" image and to me these 2 pictures doesn't seem like it. Espically Charlene in the second picture with her lips like that.

Hm, I am not enjoying this style at all. I prefer them in uniforms lol. loool.gif This style is too farm-like.
QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 6 2006 10 22 AM) [snapback]2377051[/snapback]

ugh, to be honest, i don't really like their new look. =T i understand that they're trying to match their style with the ridiculous title of "around the world with 80 dollars" (it is funny though). but i was REALLLYYYY expecting something more. i have no words to express what that "more" is, but it's definately not this type of look. =T oh well, i hope the numerous other pictures will show different styles. =T but of course, if they produce good songs, i would care less about the image. laugh.gif

Hm, I guess the title does explain it all. Around the World with 80 Dollars does describe their outfits. loool.gif
QUOTE(bluehearts @ May 6 2006 4 16 PM) [snapback]2378187[/snapback]

The images are kind of weird just like their album title...I find the title will just make people who dislike Twins, don't like them more or just more immature than they appeared. I hope they have nice songs in their mandarin album..I listened to their new song but I don't really like the music/tune. It's just not my taste, I guess.

Did their english improve?? I think Gillian's english is pretty acceptable. She just needs more practice on using english "on the spot" eg. the "House of Fury" Interview. She just needs help on forming the sentence and using the right words but her pronounciation is really clear with a light accent. innocent.gif

Oh...another on-screen kiss for Gillian..lolx..I think it's two girl host though, right?? Hey, do you have the clip?? yeah.gif

I'm enjoying the new genre of Twins songs; they're not the let's skip around in school uniforms songs. Transformation Party reveals quite a unique and different side of Twins that could extend their partnership for more years to come.

Gillian speaks good English. In the HOF radio interview, seems like the DJ was much more into conversing with herself, only asking both Stephen and Gillian a few questions. And when both Stephen and Gillian were in the process of answering, the DJ was rushing them a bit which allowed Gillian no room to elaborate on her responses. n_thumbdown.gif I guess, Gillian was also nervous too since it was live.

It was hilarious, looks like the first guy tried to kiss Gillian first but Gillian took a step backward and hid next to Sa. loool.gif At least it wasn't a really kiss on the cheek. It was just an almost peck. I was afraid that Gillian might have really lost her onscreen kiss/peck to a bunch of strangers and out of surprise too but *sighs* I'm relieved. sweat.gif

I like Sa's outfit but not Gillian's. Gosh, I wish Gillian would have an opportunity to let her hair flow freely like at the Thai airport. I think this is the current pattern of Twins now. Ever since Twins regrouped in HK, Gillian's hairstyle has been the tying up curly hairdo while Sa's has been the curled out layers. Sa looks beautiful but Gillian on the other hand, not so youthful with that hairstyle. Why can't Twins remain as Twins by having similar hair styles like in the beginning? yeah.gif

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QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 7 2006 5 21 AM) [snapback]2378720[/snapback]

It was hilarious, looks like the first guy tried to kiss Gillian first but Gillian took a step backward and hid next to Sa. loool.gif At least it wasn't a really kiss on the cheek. It was just an almost peck. I was afraid that Gillian might have really lost her onscreen kiss/peck to a bunch of strangers and out of surprise too but *sighs* I'm relieved. sweat.gif


Yeah I didn't notice until you mentioned it. I saw that clip like 5 times before I read your post and I didn't see nothing wrong until I payed attention to it when you said it lol!!! But then the guy got his "peck" lol
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just saw the MTV Asia Award '06 , i thought twins would had an accent when they spoke english but i was wrong their english is better than those who had spend most of their life in america.

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Did their english improve?? I think Gillian's english is pretty acceptable. She just needs more practice on using english "on the spot" eg. the "House of Fury" Interview. She just needs help on forming the sentence and using the right words but her pronounciation is really clear with a light accent.


i think twins had improve thier english especially charalene and gillian english is pretty well spoken and is waaaaaay better than charlene. during that interview i hardly heard gillian spoke english the only word i heard was" so cute " and "in the corner"....


what was the name of their next mando album?
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QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 6 2006 7 22 PM) [snapback]2377051[/snapback]

ugh, to be honest, i don't really like their new look. =T i understand that they're trying to match their style with the ridiculous title of "around the world with 80 dollars" (it is funny though). but i was REALLLYYYY expecting something more. i have no words to express what that "more" is, but it's definately not this type of look. =T oh well, i hope the numerous other pictures will show different styles. =T but of course, if they produce good songs, i would care less about the image. laugh.gif

I agree, I was kind of dissappointed when I saw those pics. Because I too was expecting something more, or should I say different from them, since the image for the album resemble "the school-girl look" somehow. (it may be just me though) But it would atleast been better if Gillian had another hairstyle...I really miss seeing her with straight hair.

QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 7 2006 11 21 AM) [snapback]2378720[/snapback]

It was hilarious, looks like the first guy tried to kiss Gillian first but Gillian took a step backward and hid next to Sa. loool.gif At least it wasn't a really kiss on the cheek. It was just an almost peck. I was afraid that Gillian might have really lost her onscreen kiss/peck to a bunch of strangers and out of surprise too but *sighs* I'm relieved. sweat.gif

laugh.gif I caught that too. I think the reason to why she took a step backward was because she was covering Charlene and the guy with white suit (from the camera), so she probably didn't even notice that the other guy was going to kiss her.

I know this is kind of off-topic, but don't you guys think the hosts looked familiar? Aren't they the twins from the boyband 'Moffats'?

Here's a pic of the boyband, taken years ago...
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good picture everyone
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Just saw a short clip of the Budweiser MV and all the time I thought it was Joey it was really Vincy! I was like wow! Can someone upload her song again cause I didn't get to download it. Thanks! Also could someone upload the radio drama chapter by chapter? Thanks!

Anyone saw this clip before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-fowKUQCU
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Edison and gillian is very cute.They driving me mad!!
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QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ May 7 2006 3 15 PM) [snapback]2379340[/snapback]

Just saw a short clip of the Budweiser MV and all the time I thought it was Joey it was really Vincy! I was like wow! Can someone upload her song again cause I didn't get to download it. Thanks! Also could someone upload the radio drama chapter by chapter? Thanks!

Anyone saw this clip before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-fowKUQCU

I saw it before.At Lito mi's Xanga Site
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QUOTE(xlai-wong-baox @ May 7 2006 12 37 AM) [snapback]2378246[/snapback]

They were two GUY hosts! Lol.

Yea...I dled the clip in TC after I replied...lolx...

QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ May 7 2006 3 53 AM) [snapback]2378446[/snapback]

Yeah the two hosts were white guys lol. Yeah Gillie english improved and she used a big word: "espically" lol. Charlene english was cute, but her had a some what Chinese accent to it but it sound perfect too. I think they practiced their lines alot to get out some perfect english!

Heres the link:

http://download.yousendit.com/F179B521288D484B

I saw it already but still, Thanks for sharing the linking!!

QUOTE(shorty vicky @ May 7 2006 9 21 AM) [snapback]2378625[/snapback]

yea, the title of their album is pretty ridiculous, and a little plagiarized? hm... dry.gif but omg, i think even i can come up with a better image for them. sweat.gif but whatever, what's done is done. lol. personally, i like the new manderin song. it's entirely different from the songs in the past, which is undoubtly good. ;D now people can actually quit saying that twins' productions are repetitive. xP anyhow, i won't get my hopes up just because of one song....

fortunately their english improved. but then again, they only spoke a few lines, which with the right amount of practice can be spoken fluently. but yes, i agree that it was really cute how they spoke it. xD hehe. and their attitudes were so energetic and excited. as i mentioned in another forum; they did just win the mtv asia's best hk artist award, so they couldn't be anything but happy and excited. xD

wouldn't it be crazy if twins improved their english so much that it is acceptable to the americans, so that they can enter hollywood to film some movies? laugh.gif (yea, just a random though xp)

Yea, their song was pretty unique but just not my taste...lolx..but it was a good song overall!! I thought they were going to say more than that but it was O.K..it sounds pretty cute and nice. Speaking less would also mean less chance for them to mess up.

I'm be more than happy if that happens!! I would finally see them on the big screen in the theatre instead of watching it at home!!

QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 7 2006 10 21 AM) [snapback]2378720[/snapback]

It was hilarious, looks like the first guy tried to kiss Gillian first but Gillian took a step backward and hid next to Sa. loool.gif At least it wasn't a really kiss on the cheek. It was just an almost peck. I was afraid that Gillian might have really lost her onscreen kiss/peck to a bunch of strangers and out of surprise too but *sighs* I'm relieved. sweat.gif

I like Sa's outfit but not Gillian's. Gosh, I wish Gillian would have an opportunity to let her hair flow freely like at the Thai airport. I think this is the current pattern of Twins now. Ever since Twins regrouped in HK, Gillian's hairstyle has been the tying up curly hairdo while Sa's has been the curled out layers. Sa looks beautiful but Gillian on the other hand, not so youthful with that hairstyle. Why can't Twins remain as Twins by having similar hair styles like in the beginning? yeah.gif

I didn't even notice that part. Wow, you have good eyes to catch that!! I'll have to rewatch the clip... clapping.gif

I wish Gillian could let her hair down too. Her hairstyle is getting repetitive....Twins has no more similiarities now that even their dressing style is different. What symbol do they have to represent as "Twins"? n_thumbdown.gif

QUOTE(megazerox @ May 7 2006 2 12 PM) [snapback]2379251[/snapback]

just saw the MTV Asia Award '06 , i thought twins would had an accent when they spoke english but i was wrong their english is better than those who had spend most of their life in america.
i think twins had improve thier english especially charalene and gillian english is pretty well spoken and is waaaaaay better than charlene. during that interview i hardly heard gillian spoke english the only word i heard was" so cute " and "in the corner"....
what was the name of their next mando album?

I think both of their english was pretty good there but then again...they probably practiced a lot lmao.gif Gillian didn't speak much so it's hard to say whose english is better but their english is definitely really cute!!
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QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ May 5 2006 10 23 PM) [snapback]2374485[/snapback]

I'm sure Gillian will receive more exposure and recognition when 'Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain' broadcasts in Mainland/Taiwan. Then she can show people that she is able to act, and not just a pretty face. yeah.gif She may have to endure more than she has to right now, but her time to shine will come upon her sooner or later.

It's a bit of a pity that 'My Father, Mother' will most likely not be performed live at any time soon. down.gif I suppose unless Charlene is also doing 'Next Stop Diva Queen' solo as well, Gillian won't be performing 'My Father, Mother' either. We would definitely hear an improved version of 'My Father, Mother' after the improvements that Gillian has made with her high notes. I bet it'd come out to be more emotional and strong than before. Perhaps Gillian could even sneak a few vibratos into the song while she's at it. shifty.gif I believe that this song compliments Gillian because it really is Gillian's own personal song. It's not a Twins song, but a real definite Gillian Chung song. With stating that fact, Gillian can obviously perform it how it suits her without worrying about how the Twins version went, and other factors.

Hm, after hearing this CD version, I really think I prefer Gillian's recent solo performance of it more. The high notes sound more soothing and comfortable with how Gillian recently portrayed it. This CD version seemed so.... plain. blink.gif It also sounded like Twins' voices were mixed quite a bit in this song, so I think we should prepare that they might experience some difficulties while performing this together. sweat.gif



Yep, I actually admit that I enjoyed Gillian's solo more than Gillian and Charlene's CD verison.

Their english was so cute though!
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QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 7 2006 3 21 AM) [snapback]2378720[/snapback]

Alterations aren't always for the worse. In Gillian's case, she altered the notes to a higher, more challenging approach which turned out quite well. Vibratos are what should be next on Gillian's Alterations List. 1.gif

I'm pretty sure Twins have buckled down in seriously practicing with each other. I can't wait until their next live performances. Hm, if there is another song Twins are planning to recreate into a Mandarin version, I would love to hear "Kindergarten."



Yes, it would be great to hear some vibratos from Gillian soon. I wonder if there'll be any surprises in their mandarin album? I do hope there will be one or two slow, emotional songs on the mandarin album even though their album is featuring on the word 'youthful'. A youthful person can have a few emotional expressions, can't he/she? huh.gif

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^ This is their most recent performance of 'Kindergarten' together. Hm, Gillian and Charlene sound more synchronized with each other this time than the JSG performance, but I think they should still practice with each other more to get more on the spot. The first verse that Gillian sang alone was practically flawless! yeah.gif And Charlene's learned to sing softer! She's still a bit shaky, but it sounds better than last time. clapping.gif This performance was pretty good in general. I wonder how 'Hover Bird' will turn out? sweat.gif

I wouldn't mind of hearing a mandarin version of 'Kindergarten' either, but Mainland/Taiwan fans seem to strongly oppose of Twins re-singing their cantonese songs in mandarin. unsure.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ May 7 2006 3 21 AM) [snapback]2378720[/snapback]

I'm enjoying the new genre of Twins songs; they're not the let's skip around in school uniforms songs. Transformation Party reveals quite a unique and different side of Twins that could extend their partnership for more years to come.

Gillian speaks good English. In the HOF radio interview, seems like the DJ was much more into conversing with herself, only asking both Stephen and Gillian a few questions. And when both Stephen and Gillian were in the process of answering, the DJ was rushing them a bit which allowed Gillian no room to elaborate on her responses. n_thumbdown.gif I guess, Gillian was also nervous too since it was live.

It was hilarious, looks like the first guy tried to kiss Gillian first but Gillian took a step backward and hid next to Sa. loool.gif At least it wasn't a really kiss on the cheek. It was just an almost peck. I was afraid that Gillian might have really lost her onscreen kiss/peck to a bunch of strangers and out of surprise too but *sighs* I'm relieved. sweat.gif

You know what? It seems like in aspects of HK development, Twins should split, but in aspects of Mainland/Taiwan, Twins may still have ways to go on. It's more because of the reason of how Mainland/Taiwan fans strongly oppose to the splitting more than HK fans. Many HK 'Twins' fans really do just like one of them. huh.gif

I think Gillian's English is pretty good as well. During the HOF interview, she was indeed rushed by the DJ, and she wasn't too sure nor confident of her own English, so she stuttered a few times. But when we catch her little phrases and statements, her English really doesn't have much of a chinese accent. She probably just wasn't very sure of how to form the statements. It was funny during the interview when Gillian was describing the magic trick with the keychain, and she made a comment saying, "So fake!", in the end. lmao.gif

Yeah, I agree with Transition that Gillian took the step back because she was blocking the others from the camera. I don't think many of the people really do actually peck/kiss during award presenting moments; it's more of a friendly gesture, sometimes people just get by with a cheek to cheek gesture. I guess it's a thing that award ceremonies from all around are starting to conform to. It happens in HK as well at certain times.


QUOTE(Transition @ May 7 2006 7 22 AM) [snapback]2379269[/snapback]

laugh.gif I caught that too. I think the reason to why she took a step backward was because she was covering Charlene and the guy with white suit (from the camera), so she probably didn't even notice that the other guy was going to kiss her.

I know this is kind of off-topic, but don't you guys think the hosts looked familiar? Aren't they the twins from the boyband 'Moffats'?

Here's a pic of the boyband, taken years ago...
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Yeah, I think that's why Gillian stepped to the left as well because the camera was basically shooting at her back when she got up on the stage.

Now that you've mentioned it and with the photo, the two hosts do look like the Twins from the band. blink.gif Is that also why they had the little entertaining speech about twins just before they announced the winner of the award?

QUOTE(bluehearts @ May 7 2006 12 03 PM) [snapback]2380060[/snapback]

Yea, their song was pretty unique but just not my taste...lolx..but it was a good song overall!! I thought they were going to say more than that but it was O.K..it sounds pretty cute and nice. Speaking less would also mean less chance for them to mess up.

I wish Gillian could let her hair down too. Her hairstyle is getting repetitive....Twins has no more similiarities now that even their dressing style is different. What symbol do they have to represent as "Twins"? n_thumbdown.gif

I think both of their english was pretty good there but then again...they probably practiced a lot lmao.gif Gillian didn't speak much so it's hard to say whose english is better but their english is definitely really cute!!

I was hoping that Gillian would've spoken more, then we could judge on her english better. Charlene said her speech pretty smoothly, but you could hear the chinese accent in there; it was cute of how she said it though, and neither of them messed up. I liked it when Gillian shouted out, "Especially Thai fans!!" She sounded so fluent!

Gillian's hairstyle is repetitive. yawn.gif I swear that she or her hairstylist curls it everytime she's at a public event. At the airport, it was just wavy, but at the award show, it was these intensive curls again, on the top of all that, tied up! I wish I could just go over to HK, stash Gillian's hair curler, and replace it with a hair straightener! sad.gif
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