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Gill#1Fan
I was just re-watching the video Little_Purple_Bell made, and the part in Moving Targets where Edison took the necklace from their picture, do you think that the picture they actually took together or did they just the computer?? I wish they did take it together
asillysaint
QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ Jun 26 2006 6 44 PM) [snapback]2585369[/snapback]
I was just re-watching the video Little_Purple_Bell made, and the part in Moving Targets where Edison took the necklace from their picture, do you think that the picture they actually took together or did they just the computer?? I wish they did take it together
It was a real photo, not photoshopped. I mean, look at the clothes in the picture, they're basically the same clothes Gillian and Edison were wearing all throughout the entire film. This was some cheap quick production lol. loool.gif
lito_mi
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 26 2006 6 55 PM) [snapback]2584705[/snapback]

Anyway guys, I just wanted to request some music videos or files so see if you guys can help me out okay, the files I'm looking for are:

Twins- Women Scent MV (without the huge Karaoke letters, that bugs me lol)
Twins+Boy'z New Year MV NGs
And the files when Twins were in Japan, kimonos, some type of documentary. Huge thanks for at least reading lol.




Here's the Women Scent MV:'clickie'

I'll upload the New Year MV NGs and post it up for you ASAP ^^ but I only have 3 part..the last part I don't have ^^" The clips of Twins in Japan I don't have either.....^^

EDIT*

Twins and Boy'z New Year NGs:
New Year NG 1
New Year NG 2
New Year NG 3
マイシーさん
QUOTE(misspinky @ Jun 26 2006 8 43 PM) [snapback]2585362[/snapback]

gillian and alan's singing were good but it's just seemed that gillian couldn't sing as fast as dee xu, the original singer i believe. but her voice could definitely pass as xiao s. i like her hair in those^ pics above, it looks pretty. ;]


Actually, Xiao S and Dee Xu / Hsu are the same person, aren't they? Dee--Xiao, is Barbie Hsu's younger sister. Well, I'm pretty sure that Xiao and Dee are the same person because I used to go the jerryandbarbie.cjb.net all the time and while I was on the cuest of JB, I learned that Barbie had a younger sister named: Dee [Xiao]. Add that plus, reading too many fanfics. ^^'

QUOTE( misspinky--from asillysaint @ Jun 26 2006 8 44 PM) [snapback]2585368[/snapback]

gillian and alan's singing were good but it's just seemed that gillian couldn't sing as fast as rainie yang, the original singer i believe. but her voice could definitely pass as rainie's. i like her hair in those^ pics above, it looks pretty. ;]


just added this randomly because I thought it was funny how one read xiao s and one read rainie. sweat.gif
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 26 2006 4 55 PM) [snapback]2584705[/snapback]

Hm, out of Twins, who sang their duet first? I've only watched a few sections of the show here and there. If Alan and Gillian sang their duet first, perhaps Sa heard how compatible they blended so Sa probably switched the duet from being originally funny to serious in order to achieve similar results whereas Alan who probably didn't care, just stuck to the original plans of performing a comedic song. Observe Xiao S in the background while Alan-Gillian are singing together, she was quite surprised and cheering them on.


Gillian sang her duet with Alan first. I'd say the result may have been better if Charlene just stuck with the original plans of singing funny. By singing serious, it more or less exposed the short ends of the non-synchronizing voices. If she sang funny along with Alan, then we might not notice the singing/synchronizing problem that clearly. Xiao S was very into Alan and Gillian's duet; you could tell! Whereas, Xiao S looked pretty bored during Charlene and Alan's duet. She was looking over her notes and staring out into space. loool.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 26 2006 4 55 PM) [snapback]2584705[/snapback]

Ironically, when Gillian sings with Sa as Twins, Gillian tends to weaken her voice so that both Twins can somehow synchronize in an orderly fashion but it doesn't seem to work. wacko.gif Clearly, when Gillian shares a duet with someone else like Kenny and Alan, her voice becomes quite strong, synchronizing so well in the duets. I say, Gillian shouldn't restrain herself in Twins songs because it's rubbing off a negative image on her like how fans claim that Gillian's voice is too soft to hear dry.gif but then again, as Gillian begins singing normally, Sa somehow decides to increase her volume as well, not necessarily quality, making the entire show a messy battle. whistle.gif I guess towards Alan, Sa wasn't as intensive because he's just not Gillian. whistle.gif

Alan is an honest guy; hopefully, he can successfully request Gillian for a serious duet making it a rare, HK and Taiwanese collaboration. When Alan and Sa finally joined voices at the end of the audio clip, Alan immediately threw in his white towel and gave up; he must have figured that the real duet parts of the song wouldn't work anyway, as Alans voice decreased in volume and faded out, Sa still continued increasing her volume towards the very end. blink.gif

I guess Gillian has somehow been manipulated to think that if Charlene's trying strengthen her voice, then she should weaken her voice for Charlene to take it on with her loud singing. Gillian should just not worry about restraining herself because she clearly does best when she's not obligated in singing like how she does with Charlene. Her voice is strong as a solo artiste, synchronizing with a male partner. She clearly has no problem in singing. Gillian knows how to adjust and project her voice in a great manner. Charlene just takes Gillian as a big competition. Gillian can sing louder than Charlene if she wants without much energy either, but Charlene is still as competitive as ever. I'd laugh to see Gillian showing more of her power even within Twins, and Charlene can't do a thing to overpower Gillian when Gillian eventually decides not to let her do that. whistle.gif

I wish Gillian could just do what Alan did. Just throw in the white towel; don't put up with it.

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 26 2006 4 55 PM) [snapback]2584705[/snapback]

I agree. Perhaps Gillian's instructor has only been properly training Sa in the new Mandarin songs so Sa is still lost in which singing technique to use in those older songs and her first instinct is to resort back into loud singing instead of working on quality. whistle.gif

I have to say though, Twins' new Mandarin ballads are quite simple to follow along as well, um ok, one: I Really Want to Love Him which happens to be the one main song Twins have been performing endlessly during their promotions.

I think so too. The only songs that Charlene does well in are the recent mandarin songs at the moment. That performance of 'Starlight Amusement Park' was nearly horrible. Charlene was nearly yelling her lines out and breathing hardly, and Gillian had a problem during the performance because she got something in her eye. She was rubbing her eye while trying to keep singing. blink.gif

I feel the same way too; the only song on the album that I still can't sing along with is Gillian's solo; the others are quite easy, especially their plug songs.


QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 26 2006 4 55 PM) [snapback]2584705[/snapback]

Oh, I love it. Produce more. infatuated.gif I love the scenes you chose and the song flows beautifully along each scene. You're talented in this video production area too. Gillian can always use more and more videos at Youtube. Thanks so much for sharing. clapping.gif

Thanks for the compliments. blush.gif We should do more advertising for Gillian on Youtube.

asillysaint
QUOTE(lito_mi @ Jun 26 2006 7 34 PM) [snapback]2585644[/snapback]

Here's the Women Scent MV:'clickie'

I'll upload the New Year MV NGs and post it up for you ASAP ^^ but I only have 3 part..the last part I don't have ^^" The clips of Twins in Japan I don't have either.....^^

EDIT*

Twins and Boy'z New Year NGs:
New Year NG 1
New Year NG 2
New Year NG 3
Thanks so much. I'll be sure to credit you. hug.gif Aw, you just made my day. blush.gif

QUOTE(macy @ Jun 26 2006 7 47 PM) [snapback]2585700[/snapback]
Actually, Xiao S and Dee Xu / Hsu are the same person, aren't they? Dee--Xiao, is Barbie Hsu's younger sister. Well, I'm pretty sure that Xiao and Dee are the same person because I used to go the jerryandbarbie.cjb.net all the time and while I was on the cuest of JB, I learned that Barbie had a younger sister named: Dee [Xiao]. Add that plus, reading too many fanfics. ^^'

just added this randomly because I thought it was funny how one read xiao s and one read rainie. sweat.gif
Dee Xu and Xiao S are the same person, just different reference names.

Haha. Misspinky mentioned Rainie Yang first, I quoted her, and then she must have went back and deleted her post or fixed it but my post still had her first post so that's why there are double posts with different names inserted. wacko.gif
Gill#1Fan
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 26 2006 10 14 PM) [snapback]2585522[/snapback]

It was a real photo, not photoshopped. I mean, look at the clothes in the picture, they're basically the same clothes Gillian and Edison were wearing all throughout the entire film. This was some cheap quick production lol. loool.gif


Oo I see! Cool they acutally got close together to take that picture hug.gif . Yeah that is soo true, they wore the same outfit during the whole film. Wonder if it stuck? LOl shocked.gif
bubbleby
Gillian Chung! she's pretty and cute together!!! i think she will more cute with Edison Chan in couple!... and i think is weird when she was with Kenny Kwan because i think Kenny will be cute with Charlene ...
lilsleepyhead916
I just made a manipulation of Gillian, replaced Yoon Eun Hye with Gillian. =D

Original
IPB Image

Manipulated Version
IPB Image

So what do you guys think? I was bored this morning and I was looking through the gallery from Goong and saw that I might be able to make something out of it. =D

Also, a little EG manipulation in my sig, click on it to view the full version. =D. Edison's head is pretty wierd, but that was the best I could do. I decided to post this up just to liven the thread up a bit and it is Gillian related. =D
マイシーさん
I have a request. Does anyone have the clip where Twins are singing Starlight Amusement Park? Everyone's talking about Sa's singing so I want to hear. Espeically on Gillian's part, since I love her voice.

To lilsleepyhead916 : That is so beautiful! Thank-you for sharing this. I can't help but smile when I see Gillian's face. So beautiful!
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 26 2006 8 08 PM) [snapback]2585788[/snapback]
Gillian sang her duet with Alan first. I'd say the result may have been better if Charlene just stuck with the original plans of singing funny. By singing serious, it more or less exposed the short ends of the non-synchronizing voices. If she sang funny along with Alan, then we might not notice the singing/synchronizing problem that clearly. Xiao S was very into Alan and Gillian's duet; you could tell! Whereas, Xiao S looked pretty bored during Charlene and Alan's duet. She was looking over her notes and staring out into space. loool.gif

I guess Gillian has somehow been manipulated to think that if Charlene's trying strengthen her voice, then she should weaken her voice for Charlene to take it on with her loud singing. Gillian should just not worry about restraining herself because she clearly does best when she's not obligated in singing like how she does with Charlene. Her voice is strong as a solo artiste, synchronizing with a male partner. She clearly has no problem in singing. Gillian knows how to adjust and project her voice in a great manner. Charlene just takes Gillian as a big competition. Gillian can sing louder than Charlene if she wants without much energy either, but Charlene is still as competitive as ever. I'd laugh to see Gillian showing more of her power even within Twins, and Charlene can't do a thing to overpower Gillian when Gillian eventually decides not to let her do that. whistle.gif

I wish Gillian could just do what Alan did. Just throw in the white towel; don't put up with it.


I think so too. The only songs that Charlene does well in are the recent mandarin songs at the moment. That performance of 'Starlight Amusement Park' was nearly horrible. Charlene was nearly yelling her lines out and breathing hardly, and Gillian had a problem during the performance because she got something in her eye. She was rubbing her eye while trying to keep singing. blink.gif

I feel the same way too; the only song on the album that I still can't sing along with is Gillian's solo; the others are quite easy, especially their plug songs.

Thanks for the compliments. blush.gif We should do more advertising for Gillian on Youtube.
I agree. The duet may have turned out cuter if Sa sang in her usual comedic tone. Both Xiao S and Sa were into Alan-Gillian's duet, both were singing along in the background. The crowd was pretty mesmerized by the duet as well, they were all singing along, wording the lyrics but silently as they didn't want to ruin the special duet.

Well, Gillian has been showing the audience that singing is not all about competition nor who can out-loud the other but it's all about quality and delivering the proper emotions for each song, that's why Gillian has such a relaxed and emotional posture when singing, her beautiful voice just does the work naturally. Gillian does sing wonderfully solo and in duets but ahem, just not as Twins in particular for some reason. whistle.gif

Well, Alan is a pretty honest person, he's not going to care if he hurts Sa's feelings by backing out of the duet, he just does what he wishes and sees appropriate. I understand Alan, there was really no point in that duet since it wasn't structured like a real duet anyway. Hm, perhaps the song was a real duet but the performers couldn't synchronize correctly. whistle.gif I've never heard of the song, anyone care to share? But I don't care that much anyway. sweat.gif

Hm, I haven't watched the entire show yet so I'll tune into that later about the other performances.

Twins' albums are always quite simple to sing along but yup, Gillian's solo is quite difficult to grasp nicely that is. sweat.gif

We all should try to promote Gillian; we are her fans afterall. blush.gif

Anyway, finished the Alan-Gillian Live Duet music video of Lian Ai De Ren: Love Expert. Here's the youtube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7a2-00d_XQ

Um, hopefully you guys will enjoy it; it's pretty short though and I didn't think repeating the song would be effective so I just left it at that. Please share the link and the wonderful duet. Gosh, I love Alan-Gillian!


QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ Jun 27 2006 12 00 PM) [snapback]2588929[/snapback]
Oo I see! Cool they acutally got close together to take that picture hug.gif . Yeah that is soo true, they wore the same outfit during the whole film. Wonder if it stuck? LOl shocked.gif
Haha. The wardrobe was one of the worst I've seen. Yeah, at least EG shared a real photo together, the highlight of the film. blush.gif

QUOTE(bubbleby @ Jun 27 2006 5 52 PM) [snapback]2590193[/snapback]
Gillian Chung! she's pretty and cute together!!! i think she will more cute with Edison Chan in couple!... and i think is weird when she was with Kenny Kwan because i think Kenny will be cute with Charlene ...
Well, compatibility isn't always based on physical appearance. Honestly, Kenny and Gillian look cute together, nothing weird about that. blink.gif

QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 27 2006 10 24 PM) [snapback]2591346[/snapback]
I just made a manipulation of Gillian, replaced Yoon Eun Hye with Gillian. =D

Original
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...3/914560700.jpg

Manipulated Version
IPB Image

So what do you guys think? I was bored this morning and I was looking through the gallery from Goong and saw that I might be able to make something out of it. =D

Also, a little EG manipulation in my sig, click on it to view the full version. =D. Edison's head is pretty wierd, but that was the best I could do. I decided to post this up just to liven the thread up a bit and it is Gillian related. =D
Oh my! clapping.gif This is incredible art. Major applauses for your excellent work. Gillian looks super cute in the poster and so so young. Thanks for sharing.

The EG manipulation looks awesome as well, really real. Such nice artwork. I envy your abilities lol. sweat.gif

Go Gillian~ Aja! Aja! Aja! yeah.gif
Gill#1Fan
QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 28 2006 1 24 AM) [snapback]2591346[/snapback]

I just made a manipulation of Gillian, replaced Yoon Eun Hye with Gillian. =D

Original
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...3/914560700.jpg

Manipulated Version
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...ic123/Yummy.jpg

So what do you guys think? I was bored this morning and I was looking through the gallery from Goong and saw that I might be able to make something out of it. =D

Also, a little EG manipulation in my sig, click on it to view the full version. =D. Edison's head is pretty wierd, but that was the best I could do. I decided to post this up just to liven the thread up a bit and it is Gillian related. =D



Pretty! Gillian looks soooo cute! I saw your EG manipulation signature, they look so cute together...yeah Ed head does look a little weird sweat.gif


QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 1 35 AM) [snapback]2591395[/snapback]

[b]Anyway, finished the Alan-Gillian Live Duet music video of Lian Ai De Ren: Love Expert. Here's the youtube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7a2-00d_XQ


Alan look soo cute! infatuated.gif You use their duet song? Cause in the beginning you must of cut of the part where Gill was laughing. But very goood!!!!! clapping.gif
bluehearts
QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 28 2006 1 24 AM) [snapback]2591346[/snapback]

I just made a manipulation of Gillian, replaced Yoon Eun Hye with Gillian. =D

Original
IPB Image

Manipulated Version
IPB Image

So what do you guys think? I was bored this morning and I was looking through the gallery from Goong and saw that I might be able to make something out of it. =D

Also, a little EG manipulation in my sig, click on it to view the full version. =D. Edison's head is pretty wierd, but that was the best I could do. I decided to post this up just to liven the thread up a bit and it is Gillian related. =D



Aww...this manipulation is so cute! infatuated.gif Looks real and it looks like Gillian. I remember that picture you used yeah.gif I envy you, able to make such good manipulations!! Don't let it stop..keep them coming laugh.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 1 35 AM) [snapback]2591395[/snapback]

Anyway, finished the Alan-Gillian Live Duet music video of Lian Ai De Ren: Love Expert. Here's the youtube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7a2-00d_XQ

Um, hopefully you guys will enjoy it; it's pretty short though and I didn't think repeating the song would be effective so I just left it at that. Please share the link and the wonderful duet. Gosh, I love Alan-Gillian!


Go Gillian~ Aja! Aja! Aja! yeah.gif


Amazing! It's really cool you were able to sync the singing with the Alan's scenes!! I love the scenes you used of Gillian too. thumbsup.gif If only there was a full verison, that would have been great..... down.gif
asillysaint
QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ Jun 28 2006 4 01 AM) [snapback]2592490[/snapback]
Alan look soo cute! infatuated.gif You use their duet song? Cause in the beginning you must of cut of the part where Gill was laughing. But very goood!!!!! clapping.gif
The edited audio version, credits goes to Little_Purple_Bell for producing an awesome job. If people just randomly came across the music video, they wouldn't even notice that the clip was 1. LIVE 2. Gillian, not Xiao S. That just comes to show how amazing Alan-Gillian both sound together. blush.gif

QUOTE(bluehearts @ Jun 28 2006 8 05 AM) [snapback]2593184[/snapback]
Amazing! It's really cool you were able to sync the singing with the Alan's scenes!! I love the scenes you used of Gillian too. thumbsup.gif If only there was a full verison, that would have been great..... down.gif
I know. I wished it was a full version. Yeah, I just added some Gillian scenes into the original "Love Expert" music video to keep the originality of the song YET transcend a different vibe with Gillian.
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 27 2006 11 24 PM) [snapback]2591346[/snapback]

I just made a manipulation of Gillian, replaced Yoon Eun Hye with Gillian. =D

Original
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...3/914560700.jpg

Manipulated Version
IPB Image

So what do you guys think? I was bored this morning and I was looking through the gallery from Goong and saw that I might be able to make something out of it. =D

Also, a little EG manipulation in my sig, click on it to view the full version. =D. Edison's head is pretty wierd, but that was the best I could do. I decided to post this up just to liven the thread up a bit and it is Gillian related. =D


Wow!! You've done a great job on this manip! Gillian looks extremely cute! Her expression was cute to begin with, but the hairstyle and pose added to it even more. clapping.gif You should get around to making more of these! yeah.gif

QUOTE(macy @ Jun 27 2006 11 26 PM) [snapback]2591355[/snapback]

I have a request. Does anyone have the clip where Twins are singing Starlight Amusement Park? Everyone's talking about Sa's singing so I want to hear. Espeically on Gillian's part, since I love her voice.

Here: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...64F0E080204BFCE

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 27 2006 11 35 PM) [snapback]2591395[/snapback]

Well, Gillian has been showing the audience that singing is not all about competition nor who can out-loud the other but it's all about quality and delivering the proper emotions for each song, that's why Gillian has such a relaxed and emotional posture when singing, her beautiful voice just does the work naturally. Gillian does sing wonderfully solo and in duets but ahem, just not as Twins in particular for some reason. whistle.gif

Well, Alan is a pretty honest person, he's not going to care if he hurts Sa's feelings by backing out of the duet, he just does what he wishes and sees appropriate. I understand Alan, there was really no point in that duet since it wasn't structured like a real duet anyway. Hm, perhaps the song was a real duet but the performers couldn't synchronize correctly. whistle.gif I've never heard of the song, anyone care to share? But I don't care that much anyway. sweat.gif

Gillian definitely has proven her point that loudness doesn't factor in on the quality of singing. That's how she can remain so relaxed during her performances without tensing up to overpower the other. Seeing Gillian's wonderful performance with Alan, I'm sure she did a great job of tuning in with Kenny live as well. There's just some technical error with the mixing of Twins' voices, whether it be natural or intentional. whistle.gif

The original version? Alan only mentioned that it was sang in a serial by Stephen Chow and Sandra Ng. Given that, I'd say the song was probably comedic all the way through. The original probably turned out really funny since it's Stephen and Sandra, and there would've been some funny things that they did on-screen in the serial. I agree that it wasn't really structured as a real duet anyway. Alan wasn't exactly obligated to sticking around in the duet since it wasn't a serious one; it would've been different if something like that went wrong with 'Love Expert'.


QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 27 2006 11 35 PM) [snapback]2591395[/snapback]

Anyway, finished the Alan-Gillian Live Duet music video of Lian Ai De Ren: Love Expert. Here's the youtube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7a2-00d_XQ

Um, hopefully you guys will enjoy it; it's pretty short though and I didn't think repeating the song would be effective so I just left it at that. Please share the link and the wonderful duet. Gosh, I love Alan-Gillian!

Love the final product! infatuated.gif It was great of how you kept the original scenes with Alan but just inserted some Gillian scenes along it. It definitely matches how the song is: Just as good as the original, but with a different vibe. clapping.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 27 2006 11 35 PM) [snapback]2591395[/snapback]

Haha. The wardrobe was one of the worst I've seen. Yeah, at least EG shared a real photo together, the highlight of the film. blush.gif

Go Gillian~ Aja! Aja! Aja! yeah.gif

Almost everything about 'Moving Targets' was bad actually. sweat.gif Rarely does the cast change, plot was rushed, lighting was dim, etc, etc. We could go on and on. But nevertheless, we still had an EG pairing in there. Their scenes were limited but cute. I wish they actually distributed that photo out, instead of just having it in the movie with a necklace blocking it. dry.gif It looks like a really good one of EG; they were so close together. They had the necklace over top of it so we can't even make a screenshot of the photo. dry.gif

Anyway, I think our guess on fans waiting for the second version of Twins' Mandarin album to come out before buying was correct. The second version's at third place for the top ten best-selling products, and the first version had been at seventh place when it came out. The bonus DVD content is still kind of like a rip-off though because it's just a music special about the MV filming, which may I mention, was aired on TV about a week ago. Where did the 'Youthfulness, Goodbye' song go? It's not on the second version, and neither are the MVs of 'You Are The Bravest' and 'Transformation Party'; there's not going to be a third version, is there? blink.gif

Other than Twins' second version of their Mandarin album, there's also EEG Dream Team - 2006 World Cup Karaoke that is coming out. Basically it's a release of their hit songs in the karaoke format.

Track list:

Disc 1
1) 夢幻組合 - 容祖兒, Twins, 吳浩康, 文彼德,李逸朗, 蔣雅文, 泳兒, 鄭希怡,關智斌
Dream Team - Joey Yung,Twins,Deep Ng,Peter Man,Don Li,Mandy Chiang,Vincy Chan,Yumiko Cheng,Kenny Kwan

2) 最後的茱麗葉 - 容祖兒
3) 一時無兩 - Twins
One Time Not Twice - Twins

4) 你微笑時很美 - 謝霆鋒
5) 當玫瑰遇上真愛 - 鄭希怡
6) 幼稚園 - Twins
Kindergarten - Twins

7) 月光光 - 關智斌
8) 天之驕女 - 容祖兒
9) 赤地雪 - 容祖兒
10) 救生圈 - Twins
Lifesaver - Twins

11) 吸血彊屍的愛 - 吳浩康
12) 靈犀 - 關智斌
13) 阿拉伯市場 - 鄭希怡
14) 懸崖 - 王凱駿

Disc 2
1) 摩登時代 - 容祖兒
2) 德州的故事 - Twins
A Story From texa$ - Twins

3) 愛回來 - 謝霆鋒
4) 狼女 - 鄭希怡
5) 閒人勿近 - 關智斌
6) 新手 - 吳浩康
7) 一切還好 - 陳奕迅
8) 良心發現 - 關智斌 鍾欣桐
Conscience Discovery - Kenny Kwan & Gillian Chung

9) 好事多為 - 容祖兒
10) 尋寶 - Twins
Treasure Hunt - Twins

11) 第三者 - 吳浩康
12) 傾計 - 李逸朗 蔣雅文
13) 想 - 鄭希怡
14) 戀得更好 - 梁洛施
マイシーさん
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 12 49 PM) [snapback]2593778[/snapback]


Thankyou so much for this! I am very grateful. ^__^ I only wish that Charlene had not sung so hard. It was hard to hear Gillian's voice.
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 10 49 AM) [snapback]2593778[/snapback]
Gillian definitely has proven her point that loudness doesn't factor in on the quality of singing. That's how she can remain so relaxed during her performances without tensing up to overpower the other. Seeing Gillian's wonderful performance with Alan, I'm sure she did a great job of tuning in with Kenny live as well. There's just some technical error with the mixing of Twins' voices, whether it be natural or intentional. whistle.gif

The original version? Alan only mentioned that it was sang in a serial by Stephen Chow and Sandra Ng. Given that, I'd say the song was probably comedic all the way through. The original probably turned out really funny since it's Stephen and Sandra, and there would've been some funny things that they did on-screen in the serial. I agree that it wasn't really structured as a real duet anyway. Alan wasn't exactly obligated to sticking around in the duet since it wasn't a serious one; it would've been different if something like that went wrong with 'Love Expert'.

Anyway, I think our guess on fans waiting for the second version of Twins' Mandarin album to come out before buying was correct. The second version's at third place for the top ten best-selling products, and the first version had been at seventh place when it came out. The bonus DVD content is still kind of like a rip-off though because it's just a music special about the MV filming, which may I mention, was aired on TV about a week ago. Where did the 'Youthfulness, Goodbye' song go? It's not on the second version, and neither are the MVs of 'You Are The Bravest' and 'Transformation Party'; there's not going to be a third version, is there? blink.gif

Other than Twins' second version of their Mandarin album, there's also EEG Dream Team - 2006 World Cup Karaoke that is coming out. Basically it's a release of their hit songs in the karaoke format.
Whoa, that was horrible. wacko.gif I just watched the clip of Twins performing Starlight Amusement Park you uploaded and boy, Sa sounds so off, like she was just fooling around or not caring at all instead of concentrating on the quality of the song. Now, if Sa had adjusted her voice like that during the comedic duet with Alan, perhaps the duet may have turned out funnier and cuter. sweat.gif And for some reason, Sa kept wanting to increase her volume as the quality of her voice kept declining with each notch she cranked up. Not to sound mean but honestly, what an embarrassment. Gillian just presented one of her best live performances with Alan and here Gillian is as Twins in such a bad live performance. blink.gif Sa's voice is not soft to the ear at all, especially when she squeaked at every verse. n_thumbdown.gif Gillian, though soft but quite audible. Gillian sounded pretty decent just like the rest of her solo performances. Even though Sa's voice was obviously louder but there were some moments where Gillian's voice popped up and you can tell that Gillian maintained her part of the bargain nicely without roaming off tune, that's how the song should sound like live. whistle.gif And just when I thought both Twins were achieving some type of synchronization. rolleyes.gif I guess, this must explain why Twins' latest ballads rarely have a portion of the song where both Twins join, it would be such a horrible mess if they were to perform them live. wacko.gif

Let's hope there is no Third version, that would stink even more. dry.gif Oh well, I'll be getting my second version; I'm not going to wait that long for a third version to come out. I guess this album has been selling smoothly so "Youthfulness, Goodbye" perhaps didn't make the final cut in any version?

At least Gillian has an extra song, the KG duet in this compilation album. 1.gif

Gr, I dislike hanging out at Twins forums, they're filled with hypocrites who love to wear masks, not to point fingers at anyone. whistle.gif Anyway, just had to express that. sweat.gif

Here's a clearer clip of Twins singing 我很想愛他 during their stop in Taiwan. Gillian was struggling a bit in the beginning verse but like usual Gillian improved as the song progressed while Sa sounded nice except for the second loop around the chorus, that was um more like wording the lyrics in a stubborn heavy way at 2:00 instead of singing but other else than that, the live performance was smooth. Love Gillian's last two choruses and Gillian eventually got around to vibratos towards the end if you listen carefully at 3:24 if I'm not mistakened. 1.gif I love how Gillian remained emotional all throughout the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-O-svAbozE

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 12 24 PM) [snapback]2593894[/snapback]

Whoa, that was horrible. wacko.gif I just watched the clip of Twins performing Starlight Amusement Park you uploaded and boy, Sa sounds so off, like she was just fooling around or not caring at all instead of concentrating on the quality of the song. Now, if Sa had adjusted her voice like that during the comedic duet with Alan, perhaps the duet may have turned out funnier and cuter. sweat.gif And for some reason, Sa kept wanting to increase her volume as the quality of her voice kept declining with each notch she cranked up. Not to sound mean but honestly, what an embarrassment. Gillian just presented one of her best live performances with Alan and here Gillian is as Twins in such a bad live performance. blink.gif Sa's voice is not soft to the ear at all, especially when she squeaked at every verse. n_thumbdown.gif Gillian, though soft but quite audible. Gillian sounded pretty decent just like the rest of her solo performances. Even though Sa's voice was obviously louder but there were some moments where Gillian's voice popped up and you can tell that Gillian maintained her part of the bargain nicely without roaming off tune, that's how the song should sound like live. whistle.gif And just when I thought both Twins were achieving some type of synchronization. rolleyes.gif I guess, this must explain why Twins' latest ballads rarely have a portion of the song where both Twins join, it would be such a horrible mess if they were to perform them live. wacko.gif

Let's hope there is no Third version, that would stink even more. dry.gif Oh well, I'll be getting my second version; I'm not going to wait that long for a third version to come out. I guess this album has been selling smoothly so "Youthfulness, Goodbye" perhaps didn't make the final cut in any version?

At least Gillian has an extra song, the KG duet in this compilation album. 1.gif

Yep, didn't I say that it was horrible? sweat.gif That's why I didn't share it at first because it sets a bad reputation on Charlene, and nevertheless, Twins as a whole unforunately. Charlene needs to learn how to apply her new techniques to her old songs. Her loud singing just comes right back when old songs need to be performed, or those that she hasn't been practicing enough. The same kind of singing from her was present during the EEG artistes' performance of 'Dream Team', and her breathing needs some work old or new songs. It's just really loud, and a great turn-off you're listening to a nice song, but at the end of each verse, you hear a big gasp for breath. Her performance didn't sound like a fooling around thing, but it was simply a resort back to her loud singing. Gillian's solo lines were decent; she wasn't audible during some parts of the song, but her voice pops up whenever higher notes take place. I wish they didn't sing 'Starlight Amusement Park' but something else that didn't require for them to sing together for the most of the song. Perhaps 'No Tears In Moscow' may have been better because they only join at the very last verse.

I hope there isn't a third version because it's just going to get everyone fed up with EEG, or perhaps with Twins as well. I'd rather that they just included 'Youthfulness, Goodbye' with their upcoming Cantonese album because sometimes artistes include one or two mandarin songs in their Cantonese albums.

Uh huh, that's the highlight of this album. shifty.gif
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 2 03 PM) [snapback]2594444[/snapback]
Yep, didn't I say that it was horrible? sweat.gif That's why I didn't share it at first because it sets a bad reputation on Charlene, and nevertheless, Twins as a whole unforunately. Charlene needs to learn how to apply her new techniques to her old songs. Her loud singing just comes right back when old songs need to be performed, or those that she hasn't been practicing enough. The same kind of singing from her was present during the EEG artistes' performance of 'Dream Team', and her breathing needs some work old or new songs. It's just really loud, and a great turn-off you're listening to a nice song, but at the end of each verse, you hear a big gasp for breath. Her performance didn't sound like a fooling around thing, but it was simply a resort back to her loud singing. Gillian's solo lines were decent; she wasn't audible during some parts of the song, but her voice pops up whenever higher notes take place. I wish they didn't sing 'Starlight Amusement Park' but something else that didn't require for them to sing together for the most of the song. Perhaps 'No Tears In Moscow' may have been better because they only join at the very last verse.
Hm, but knowing Sa fans, they'll be like, "Oh, that was decent singing, that was Sa's intentions of portraying the song anyway, and what about Gillian, her voice was so soft, I couldn't even hear her blah blah blah." rolleyes.gif Gillian WAS heard alright, quite nicely too. whistle.gif Yeah, Sa needs to control her respiration a bit more, her heavy breathing makes her live performances sound messy and that's probably why she resorts to loud singing, 1. To crowd out Gillian's voice. whistle.gif 2. When Sa runs out of air, she loses balance and the quality of the song, which resorts to loud singing believing that that would actually compensate, but it doesn't. whistle.gif Aiya, Twins are way horrible at No Tears In Moscow than Starlight Amusement Park lol. Hm, I should really upload that clip of Twins singing No Tears In Moscow incase you guys haven't seen it but I'm pretty sure you guys have though. sweat.gif To me personally, this live performance shouldn't be spoken about at all, it's bad. Okay, off to uploading.
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 3 28 PM) [snapback]2594545[/snapback]

Hm, but knowing Sa fans, they'll be like, "Oh, that was decent singing, that was Sa's intentions of portraying the song anyway, and what about Gillian, her voice was so soft, I couldn't even hear her blah blah blah." rolleyes.gif Gillian WAS heard alright, quite nicely too. whistle.gif Yeah, Sa needs to control her respiration a bit more, her heavy breathing makes her live performances sound messy and that's probably why she resorts to loud singing, 1. To crowd out Gillian's voice. whistle.gif 2. When Sa runs out of air, she loses balance and the quality of the song, which resorts to loud singing believing that that would actually compensate, but it doesn't. whistle.gif Aiya, Twins are way horrible at No Tears In Moscow than Starlight Amusement Park lol. Hm, I should really upload that clip of Twins singing No Tears In Moscow incase you guys haven't seen it but I'm pretty sure you guys have though. sweat.gif To me personally, this live performance shouldn't be spoken about at all, it's bad. Okay, off to uploading.

Yep, the usual things that people used against Gillian; it's either her voice is too soft or she only has looks, but it's obviously not true. whistle.gif The loud singing, I don't know, but some HK people do buy the loud singing from Charlene. You see several comments on Twins here and there like, "Twins both suck at singing, but at least Charlene is loud." HK complains they aren't getting good quality singers and music, and this is what they believe? Come on, volume doesn't factor in the singer's performance and skills. If a singer was to go off screaming the lyrics into the microphone instead of singing, would that count as being good at it? What makes me angry is how some people claim that Gillian doesn't have enough breath to keep going in a song. Excuse me? Who is the one who is taking a gulp in between the lyrics for more breath, and who is the one who doesn't take a break? whistle.gif But they can't possibly be as bad at 'No Tears In Moscow' now as compared to the earlier times when they were just starting off in the Mandarin market. Gillian, for one, should be able to perform 'No Tears In Moscow' decently with the improvements that she's made through recent times. I just think that Twins in general should be better at the song now than before, unless Charlene decides to resort to loud singing again. rolleyes.gif
Gill#1Fan
I just read the news that Little_Purple_Bell translated about their wax figure, and wow the wax figure doesn't really look like them at all. Espically their skin color, because lately Twins got darker, and I think it was because of their filming or something. But I love the hair and dress that Gillian got. Something nice this time with the curls
asillysaint
QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ Jun 28 2006 3 07 PM) [snapback]2594644[/snapback]
I just read the news that Little_Purple_Bell translated about their wax figure, and wow the wax figure doesn't really look like them at all. Espically their skin color, because lately Twins got darker, and I think it was because of their filming or something. But I love the hair and dress that Gillian got. Something nice this time with the curls
Yeah, whoever created those wax figures needs to be shot lol. loool.gif If Gillian really looked like that, that would be called stiff acting lol. sweat.gif Gillian is way way more beautiful than the artist can ever capture.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 2 41 PM) [snapback]2594576[/snapback]
Yep, the usual things that people used against Gillian; it's either her voice is too soft or she only has looks, but it's obviously not true. whistle.gif The loud singing, I don't know, but some HK people do buy the loud singing from Charlene. You see several comments on Twins here and there like, "Twins both suck at singing, but at least Charlene is loud." HK complains they aren't getting good quality singers and music, and this is what they believe? Come on, volume doesn't factor in the singer's performance and skills. If a singer was to go off screaming the lyrics into the microphone instead of singing, would that count as being good at it? What makes me angry is how some people claim that Gillian doesn't have enough breath to keep going in a song. Excuse me? Who is the one who is taking a gulp in between the lyrics for more breath, and who is the one who doesn't take a break? whistle.gif But they can't possibly be as bad at 'No Tears In Moscow' now as compared to the earlier times when they were just starting off in the Mandarin market. Gillian, for one, should be able to perform 'No Tears In Moscow' decently with the improvements that she's made through recent times. I just think that Twins in general should be better at the song now than before, unless Charlene decides to resort to loud singing again. rolleyes.gif
I'm uploading the clip at the moment but it's gonna take a while, yousendit is so slow lately.

Exactly. HK endlessly criticizes artists for their lack of talent YET they buy the loud projections as singing? Whoa, no wonder why HK is where they're at. whistle.gif Hahah, I would think that Sa's audible gulps are noticed; I mean, it's quite impossible to ignore them. sweat.gif But anyway, I agree, with Gillian's recent live performances, Gillian's voice has gotten more practice and exploration so she should be able to perform No Tears In Moscow better now. No Tears In Moscow would be a great song for Gillian to perform live. 1.gif But any Twins live performances together and Gillian loses her confidence as she restrains herself from outshining too much. innocent.gif

Here is the clip of Twins performing No Tears In Moscow at an event. Personally, because I'm not sure about you guys but this is one of the poorest live performances of Twins. Hm, I would say, overall, Gillian sounds better but not by much either. Sa sounds the worst when she attempts to sing the ah-hah part in the second rotation of the song. Try to enjoy. sweat.gif
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...7ABE62B3EB3D08B

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif
Gill#1Fan
I just saw the clip that Little_Purple_Bell uploaded with Twins singing Starlight Amusement Park and Charlene first line was yucky! Once again she did her job to over power Gillian's voice. And that's all I have to say!
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 4 26 PM) [snapback]2594695[/snapback]

Exactly. HK endlessly criticizes artists for their lack of talent YET they buy the loud projections as singing? Whoa, no wonder why HK is where they're at. whistle.gif Hahah, I would think that Sa's audible gulps are noticed; I mean, it's quite impossible to ignore them. sweat.gif But anyway, I agree, with Gillian's recent live performances, Gillian's voice has gotten more practice and exploration so she should be able to perform No Tears In Moscow better now. No Tears In Moscow would be a great song for Gillian to perform live. 1.gif But any Twins live performances together and Gillian loses her confidence as she restrains herself from outshining too much. innocent.gif

Here is the clip of Twins performing No Tears In Moscow at an event. Personally, because I'm not sure about you guys but this is one of the poorest live performances of Twins. Hm, I would say, overall, Gillian sounds better but not by much either. Sa sounds the worst when she attempts to sing the ah-hah part in the second rotation of the song. Try to enjoy. sweat.gif
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...7ABE62B3EB3D08B

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif

HK itself in general also has to take part of the responsibility of its music industry taking a downfall, even though it's favoritism that usually kills everything, but things could be better if the HK audience can take a second look at what's singing and what's not, and they need to stop stereotyping on things such as all pretty faces don't have talent, or idol artistes will never improve and evolve into a real artiste with actual talents. Taking gulps while singing is a big problem; when I take a listen for singing, one of the first things I listen for is how the singer is breathing. Now and then, there may be certain cases where artistes take an intentional more audible gulp for a breath to send emotions into the song, but if the artiste is simply breathing audibly because of the lack of training on respiration, then it's obviously and simply something they've got to work on. No arguments needed. Seriously, Gillian needs more solo performances. That way, we can actually clearly listen for her improvements without her restraining herself from her abilities such as during Twins performances. Gillian has gained more confidence even during Twins performances, but it just isn't unleashed as much as it is for solo performances or duets.

Well, this performance isn't all in all that bad. It seems like both Gillian and Charlene had their struggles in the starting verse. Gillian sounded okay during the chorus verses, I guess; she was a bit weak during the first verse that she began singing in. Charlene's voice kept sliding down into low notes here and there even though she did try starting her verses in the higher beat that was required for the song. They both sounded a bit slow on the beat through the song though. Anyway, given this performance, I think it'd be best if they did get a chance of singing this song again around this time because it would at least show their improvements. sweat.gif
Megazerox
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Hm, but knowing Sa fans, they'll be like, "Oh, that was decent singing, that was Sa's intentions of portraying the song anyway, and what about Gillian, her voice was so soft, I couldn't even hear her blah blah blah." rolleyes.gif Gillian WAS heard alright, quite nicely too. whistle.gif Yeah, Sa needs to control her respiration a bit more, her heavy breathing makes her live performances sound messy and that's probably why she resorts to loud singing, 1. To crowd out Gillian's voice. whistle.gif 2. When Sa runs out of air, she loses balance and the quality of the song, which resorts to loud singing believing that that would actually compensate, but it doesn't. whistle.gif Aiya, Twins are way horrible at No Tears In Moscow than Starlight Amusement Park lol. Hm, I should really upload that clip of Twins singing No Tears In Moscow incase you guys haven't seen it but I'm pretty sure you guys have though. sweat.gif To me personally, this live performance shouldn't be spoken about at all, it's bad. Okay, off to uploading.


Yea i hate those kind of fans. Loud singing is not suitable for female artists, unlast they are singing some rock, R&B, and other that require loud singing.
I find this clip at youtube twins and arron singing together and have to say charlene singing is really loud and she even forget some words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIZdI7eHHk

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I just read the news that Little_Purple_Bell translated about their wax figure, and wow the wax figure doesn't really look like them at all. Espically their skin color, because lately Twins got darker, and I think it was because of their filming or something. But I love the hair and dress that Gillian got. Something nice this time with the curls


yea i agree that the wax doesn't look like them especially Gillian wax the face doesn't look like at all. Overall the wax figure is fine.
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 4 20 PM) [snapback]2594839[/snapback]
HK itself in general also has to take part of the responsibility of its music industry taking a downfall, even though it's favoritism that usually kills everything, but things could be better if the HK audience can take a second look at what's singing and what's not, and they need to stop stereotyping on things such as all pretty faces don't have talent, or idol artistes will never improve and evolve into a real artiste with actual talents. Taking gulps while singing is a big problem; when I take a listen for singing, one of the first things I listen for is how the singer is breathing. Now and then, there may be certain cases where artistes take an intentional more audible gulp for a breath to send emotions into the song, but if the artiste is simply breathing audibly because of the lack of training on respiration, then it's obviously and simply something they've got to work on. No arguments needed. Seriously, Gillian needs more solo performances. That way, we can actually clearly listen for her improvements without her restraining herself from her abilities such as during Twins performances. Gillian has gained more confidence even during Twins performances, but it just isn't unleashed as much as it is for solo performances or duets.

Well, this performance isn't all in all that bad. It seems like both Gillian and Charlene had their struggles in the starting verse. Gillian sounded okay during the chorus verses, I guess; she was a bit weak during the first verse that she began singing in. Charlene's voice kept sliding down into low notes here and there even though she did try starting her verses in the higher beat that was required for the song. They both sounded a bit slow on the beat through the song though. Anyway, given this performance, I think it'd be best if they did get a chance of singing this song again around this time because it would at least show their improvements. sweat.gif
True. HK should really stop making excuses for the ones who can't sing but due to overexposure, the audience have adapted to their singing thus believing that it's singing, which is obviously NOT. And yes, HK needs to throw that silly clique out the window because stereotypes only shows how pathetic, threatened, and narrow minded they are by an individual like Gillian who seems to have broken all labels placed on her so far and this is only the beginning, she still has so much more to reveal. clapping.gif

I also notice the breathing patterns of singers/artists as well. Sa already breathes quite audible in CD versions and I'm referring to heavy technical elements that have actually concealed a lot of raw errors but her breathing is still quite loud. blink.gif Onstage live, Sa just falls apart. Only in some beginning songs does Sa manage to maintain her breathing but as a concert progresses, Sa literally breaks down and resorts to loud singing to cover up which doesn't cut it. I support Sa in working on her respiration as well, she already worked on her loud singing before but somehow returns to it in other songs but Twins' new Mandarin songs, next is her breathing volume and again, loud singing. Sa needs to permanently sing without ruining the song with her big gulps and loud projections.

Really? I thought this was pretty bad but oh well. blush.gif Yeah, I really want to see another live performance of this song so both can redeem themselves for such a poor performance. Has Twins performed No Tears In Moscow other else than this event? I don't remember.

QUOTE(megazerox @ Jun 28 2006 4 49 PM) [snapback]2594918[/snapback]
Yea i hate those kind of fans. Loud singing is not suitable for female artists, unlast they are singing some rock, R&B, and other that require loud singing.

I find this clip at youtube twins and arron singing together and have to say charlene singing is really loud and she even forget some words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIZdI7eHHk
Wow, Gillian sounds great. Sa was loud but off beat. Aaron kept eyeballing Gillian, lol. How cute. loool.gif And Gillian was so cute when she wiggled or danced a bit. blush.gif

Um, have you guys noticed that Gillian's live performances before she got her throat injured were all close to perfect? Now, Gillian still sounds nice too but not as solid as before. Like Gillian lost a part of her vocals that allowed her to deliver the notes beautifully. Gillian's voice has improved tremendously but I can't help but notice how different Gillian sounds now after the injury? Do you guys think Gillian's throat still hurts? And is seriously damaged? I mean, a kick to the throat is a pretty heavy and serious incident that just doesn't heal within a year or two, it could take up to 10-15 years to fully recover and with no rest like Gillian, her throat may not be recovering at the normal rate. blink.gif Or has Gillian lost too much confidence during that rough time to sing again? Hm, listen to the earlier performances of Twins, Gillian sounded awesome, like completely breath taking, now Gillian sounds just as sensational but something is missing and I cannot pin point what exactly but for sure, this all happened after the throat injury. And if the cause is that throat injury, I applaud Gillian for still doing a beautifully great job at singing with emotions. Aw poor Gillian. Gosh, Gillian is such a determined and strong woman.

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif
lilsleepyhead916
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 6 23 PM) [snapback]2595188[/snapback]

Um, have you guys noticed that Gillian's live performances before she got her throat injured were all close to perfect? Now, Gillian still sounds nice too but not as solid as before. Like Gillian lost a part of her vocals that allowed her to deliver the notes beautifully. Gillian's voice has improved tremendously but I can't help but notice how different Gillian sounds now after the injury? Do you guys think Gillian's throat still hurts? And is seriously damaged? I mean, a kick to the throat is a pretty heavy and serious incident that just doesn't heal within a year or two, it could take up to 10-15 years to fully recover and with no rest like Gillian, her throat may not be recovering at the normal rate. blink.gif Or has Gillian lost too much confidence during that rough time to sing again? Hm, listen to the earlier performances of Twins, Gillian sounded awesome, like completely breath taking, now Gillian sounds just as sensational but something is missing and I cannot pin point what exactly but for sure, this all happened after the throat injury. And if the cause is that throat injury, I applaud Gillian for still doing a beautifully great job at singing with emotions. Aw poor Gillian. Gosh, Gillian is such a determined and strong woman.

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif

Yeah, I've noticed that, and I'm thinking that Gillian doesn't really have the confidence that she can do as well as she did before. But the same thing happened to Joey before, and as you can see, she still came out at the top even after her breakdown of not being able to sing. I just think that Gillian needs the confidence and some time. Maybe a few more solo performances will help, seeing how well she has done so far. To me, this is also the same with the weight issue about her. There has been alot of criticisms about her gaining weight and being chubby, so she wears jeans to cover up her legs and baggy clothes. And recently, Gillian lost 5 pounds, due to the hectic schedule and eating 'jai' for a month, and it seems like she's wearing a bit more clothes that shows off her figure. Like the picture of Gillian on this one Taiwan variety show, she dressed up a bit more compared to how she dressed when Twins first started to promote their new album. It's still loose, bit it shows off a bit more skin compared to what she usually wore. I think that if people stopped criticising her, that she will feel more comfortable and confident about herself.

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The outfit I was talking about.

I'd actually like to see Gillian dressing up kind of like Charlene does for once, a skirt and a trendy top, and NO boots that covers up her legs, because that will be telling me that she feels confident about herself, and that she doesn't need to cover herself up because she's afraid about people saying how her she has 'elephant' legs or something. In the beginning when Twins first came out, Gillian actually wore more skirts and shorts that shows off her legs, but after people said that she was getting chubby and had elephant legs, around the time of Twins Effect I, it seems like she's been covering herself up a bit more, then later on she started to stop, but then, again, after people have been talking about her gaining weight, she started to cover herself up again. Stupid people, why can't they shut up and let Gillian be the way she is? That way, she can dress freely without having to worry about people talking about her weight.
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 7 23 PM) [snapback]2595188[/snapback]

True. HK should really stop making excuses for the ones who can't sing but due to overexposure, the audience have adapted to their singing thus believing that it's singing, which is obviously NOT. And yes, HK needs to throw that silly clique out the window because stereotypes only shows how pathetic, threatened, and narrow minded they are by an individual like Gillian who seems to have broken all labels placed on her so far and this is only the beginning, she still has so much more to reveal. clapping.gif

I also notice the breathing patterns of singers/artists as well. Sa already breathes quite audible in CD versions and I'm referring to heavy technical elements that have actually concealed a lot of raw errors but her breathing is still quite loud. blink.gif Onstage live, Sa just falls apart. Only in some beginning songs does Sa manage to maintain her breathing but as a concert progresses, Sa literally breaks down and resorts to loud singing to cover up which doesn't cut it. I support Sa in working on her respiration as well, she already worked on her loud singing before but somehow returns to it in other songs but Twins' new Mandarin songs, next is her breathing volume and again, loud singing. Sa needs to permanently sing without ruining the song with her big gulps and loud projections.

Yes, Gillian needs more chances to show the narrow minded HK what she is capable of. I shared the mp3 of the Alan+Gillian duet at a chinese forum, but this particular person just gave me this big, long reply about how the song sounded alright, but it was only because Alan did a good job of leading, and the Xiao S+Alan version sounds much better. But this Alan+Gillian version was good, wasn't it? rolleyes.gif It does take more than good leading by your partner to give a good portrayal of a song. I hope Gillian gets more solo opportunities, then she can show some people more evidence that she does well on her own as well as working with a partner. rolleyes.gif

I notice that Charlene has audible breathing on CD as well. After each line, you hear a gasp. I don't know why though since as you've said, don't CD producers make adjustments to make it sound flawless before releasing the song? blink.gif But I suppose computers don't have that advanced of technology to make it absolutely perfect yet. I suppose the CD version of course already sounds the best they can do. Sometimes hearing an unfixed version is scary when you compare it to the CD version. Anyway, Charlene sometimes even sounds flat with notes on CD; couldn't they have fixed it up a bit more? unsure.gif You're right about the live performances thing with Charlene. When she can't go on with it, Charlene will go back with the loud singing because she seems to find comfort with it. Is that really going to work for her? Like just making improvements in the main and plug songs of each album, but not improving for singing in general? Shouldn't improvements in general be made instead? sweat.gif It's not much good if you're an artiste who's only good in one or two songs at a time.

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 7 23 PM) [snapback]2595188[/snapback]

Really? I thought this was pretty bad but oh well. blush.gif Yeah, I really want to see another live performance of this song so both can redeem themselves for such a poor performance. Has Twins performed No Tears In Moscow other else than this event? I don't remember.

Um, have you guys noticed that Gillian's live performances before she got her throat injured were all close to perfect? Now, Gillian still sounds nice too but not as solid as before. Like Gillian lost a part of her vocals that allowed her to deliver the notes beautifully. Gillian's voice has improved tremendously but I can't help but notice how different Gillian sounds now after the injury? Do you guys think Gillian's throat still hurts? And is seriously damaged? I mean, a kick to the throat is a pretty heavy and serious incident that just doesn't heal within a year or two, it could take up to 10-15 years to fully recover and with no rest like Gillian, her throat may not be recovering at the normal rate. blink.gif Or has Gillian lost too much confidence during that rough time to sing again? Hm, listen to the earlier performances of Twins, Gillian sounded awesome, like completely breath taking, now Gillian sounds just as sensational but something is missing and I cannot pin point what exactly but for sure, this all happened after the throat injury. And if the cause is that throat injury, I applaud Gillian for still doing a beautifully great job at singing with emotions. Aw poor Gillian. Gosh, Gillian is such a determined and strong woman.

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif

I've only seen one other performance of "No Tears In Moscow', but I don't have the clip anymore. From memory, it definitely sounded better than the one you shared. The highlight on that performance was Gillian began the song for once. shifty.gif

I feel that way as well. Her performances at the beginning of her career up until her injury all sounded really nice. I remember there was a huge contrast in singing between Gillian and Charlene when I watched the Ichiban Concert as it was aired on TV. Even my mother, who does edge towards Charlene more, had to admit that Gillian gave a better performance singing. I remember that there was a part their their debut concert that Charlene just went completely flat with her singing. smilie.GIF Trust me, it wasn't enjoyable. Well, by watching their first concert, you will notice that Gillian definitely has better techniques of singing right now, but it's the part about projecting her voice that's different. It seems like after her injury, she doesn't project it as freely with as much openness as she did before. It was really obvious back in 2004 when she started singing with her voice really closed up like it ran into some barrier at her throat before being able to come out. By now, she is slowly recovering to her former projection because she's letting her voice out and more freely now. It could also be that she previously believed that she can't sing because of the former closed up moments of her throat, so she hasn't regained her confidence to sing freely yet. Hopefully, her throat will fully recover soon along with her confidence. Because seriously, you're right about how getting an injury in the throat that caused internal bleeding and damage in your voice box is not a little thing. Fully recovering could take ages, and it could be slowed up by Gillian's workload and lack of rest as well.


QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 28 2006 7 50 PM) [snapback]2595301[/snapback]

Yeah, I've noticed that, and I'm thinking that Gillian doesn't really have the confidence that she can do as well as she did before. But the same thing happened to Joey before, and as you can see, she still came out at the top even after her breakdown of not being able to sing. I just think that Gillian needs the confidence and some time. Maybe a few more solo performances will help, seeing how well she has done so far. To me, this is also the same with the weight issue about her. There has been alot of criticisms about her gaining weight and being chubby, so she wears jeans to cover up her legs and baggy clothes. And recently, Gillian lost 5 pounds, due to the hectic schedule and eating 'jai' for a month, and it seems like she's wearing a bit more clothes that shows off her figure. Like the picture of Gillian on this one Taiwan variety show, she dressed up a bit more compared to how she dressed when Twins first started to promote their new album. It's still loose, bit it shows off a bit more skin compared to what she usually wore. I think that if people stopped criticising her, that she will feel more comfortable and confident about herself.

http://ent.tom.com/images/pics/060628twins/d/14.jpg
The outfit I was talking about.

I'd actually like to see Gillian dressing up kind of like Charlene does for once, a skirt and a trendy top, and NO boots that covers up her legs, because that will be telling me that she feels confident about herself, and that she doesn't need to cover herself up because she's afraid about people saying how her she has 'elephant' legs or something. In the beginning when Twins first came out, Gillian actually wore more skirts and shorts that shows off her legs, but after people said that she was getting chubby and had elephant legs, around the time of Twins Effect I, it seems like she's been covering herself up a bit more, then later on she started to stop, but then, again, after people have been talking about her gaining weight, she started to cover herself up again. Stupid people, why can't they shut up and let Gillian be the way she is? That way, she can dress freely without having to worry about people talking about her weight.

Uh huh, Gillian is a really down-to-earth girl who does lack confidence at many times. She simply doesn't have courage to neglect the criticisms of people, so she tries to avoid them by dressing up to cover herself more. The boots are definitely a sign that she's afraid of criticisms. All those people with their comments about elephant legs. She wears boots to hide her legs, but her legs look fine! There was an ad with Gillian in a bikini, and her legs looked great. They're not sticks, but nothing near elephant legs. Another thing with HK's steretyping: One does not need to look anorexic in order to be beautiful. She looks completely fine and beautiful in the photo you posted. During Gillian's earlier times of her career, she actually wore some tank-tops here and there, but now she barely even wears T-shirts, for heaven's sake! HK people are just never satisfied with things, are they? I'm going to pray so hard that Gillian doesn't injure herself during this upcoming film. If she's going to injure herself, and she's not even in for a decent screentime, then a lot of complaints are going to be coming from me. Gillian's worked hard to accumulate her confidence back, so she can't possibly lose it now. down.gif
blueocean
wow, best manipulated pic of Gillian I have seen, she looks so cute, young, adorable, thanks for the manipulated pic.....


QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 28 2006 12 24 AM) [snapback]2591346[/snapback]

I just made a manipulation of Gillian, replaced Yoon Eun Hye with Gillian. =D

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So what do you guys think? I was bored this morning and I was looking through the gallery from Goong and saw that I might be able to make something out of it. =D

Also, a little EG manipulation in my sig, click on it to view the full version. =D. Edison's head is pretty wierd, but that was the best I could do. I decided to post this up just to liven the thread up a bit and it is Gillian related. =D


マイシーさん
thank-you asillysaint for the clip of Gillian and Charlene singing. I haven't seen it yet. Was it a old clip? Why was everyone cheering for Gillian and Charlene?

besides the obivious of course.
asillysaint
Aiya, I don't have time to reply but I'll leave this thread with some new photos of Gillian as Ching Ling So in Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain.Gah, Gillian is lovely. Can't wait until its release, it should be sometime this year; time flies by quickly. blush.gif
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Go Gillian~ yeah.gif
Megazerox
every pix's is great except for the last one. I don't like the clothing she have.
c a t h y
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 29 2006 3 56 AM) [snapback]2595624[/snapback]

Yes, Gillian needs more chances to show the narrow minded HK what she is capable of. I shared the mp3 of the Alan+Gillian duet at a chinese forum, but this particular person just gave me this big, long reply about how the song sounded alright, but it was only because Alan did a good job of leading, and the Xiao S+Alan version sounds much better. But this Alan+Gillian version was good, wasn't it? rolleyes.gif It does take more than good leading by your partner to give a good portrayal of a song. I hope Gillian gets more solo opportunities, then she can show some people more evidence that she does well on her own as well as working with a partner. rolleyes.gif



They're like that! Those who think that Twins can't sing will always believe that they can't sing... even if they hear a good performance, they will always come up with the most ridiculous reasons to pull it off. Another example would be their most recent JSG performance.. everyone knows that you are no longer allowed to lip sync on JSG, but because Twins gave a good performance of 'Around the world with 80 dollars' on the show, they believe they were lip syncing rolleyes.gif
bluehearts
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 4 39 AM) [snapback]2596699[/snapback]

Aiya, I don't have time to reply but I'll leave this thread with some new photos of Gillian as Ching Ling So in Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain.Gah, Gillian is lovely. Can't wait until its release, it should be sometime this year; time flies by quickly. blush.gif
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/22.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/20.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/31.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/46.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/30.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/28.jpg

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif


Thanks! yeah.gif

Gillian looks so pretty!! I love the last picture because Gillian looks so adorable in the outfit infatuated.gif I can't wait for the serial to air too!! It's been a few months...it should come out soon.... dance.gif

QUOTE(CathyW @ Jun 29 2006 9 46 AM) [snapback]2597348[/snapback]

They're like that! Those who think that Twins can't sing will always believe that they can't sing... even if a they hear a good performance, they will always come up with the most ridiculous reasons to pull it off. Another example would be their most recent JSG performance.. everyone knows that you are no longer allowed to lip sync on JSG, but because Twins gave a good performance of 'Around the world with 80 dollars' on the show, they believe they were lip syncing rolleyes.gif


Those people are so stubborn and ridiculous. Does other people buy that? I mean, it makes them really stupid to actually give these reasons b/c uh..like you said, everyone knows it's not the truth dry.gif

I wonder if those people who criticizes Gillian's weight have problems with their own weight so they would feel better to tease Gillian because she is so healthy and not all skeleton compared to a lot of the HK celebrities innocent.gif and reporters are just plain mean. They would write anything, truth or not b/c they have no interesting stories to fill up the page! duh.gif so annoying.... rolleyes.gif
c a t h y
QUOTE(bluehearts @ Jun 29 2006 4 10 PM) [snapback]2597627[/snapback]

Those people are so stubborn and ridiculous. Does other people buy that? I mean, it makes them really stupid to actually give these reasons b/c uh..like you said, everyone knows it's not the truth dry.gif


Most people agreed with it because they said that they weren't moving their lips to some parts of the song - 不管不管 and 想玩就玩, which Twins are not meant to be singing! dry.gif A Twins fan tried explaining that to them, but they just seemed to have ignored the post........

Hey! Did you guys know that Gillian is mixed?

"蔡 卓 妍 ( 阿 Sa ) 說 : 「 遠 睇 都 有 95% 似 , 近 睇 就 90% , 阿 嬌 個 仲 做 到 有 似 鬼 妹 , 不 過 佢 本 身 都 係 有 mix 。 」" (from Appledaily)

"阿Sa說:「阿嬌的蠟像有點似鬼妹,佢本身都有些混血,我們都是第一次見,服裝是參考演唱會的歌衫再造,其實有想過用《千機變》造型,不過動作要保持太耐會有難度,我們還錄了三種語言的聲帶同大家打招呼,稍後我們的蠟像可能有聲音發出來,對蠟像的整體都很滿意。」"(From Wenweipo)

Some people at CCT were saying that it could be that the reporters mixed up Charlene's words, but then it was reported in two different newspapers and Wenweipo doesn't normally make stuff up...What do you guys think?
Megazerox
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Most people agreed with it because they said that they weren't moving their lips to some parts of the song - 不管不管 and 想玩就玩, which Twins are not meant to be singing! A Twins fan tried explaining that to them, but they just seemed to have ignored the post........

Hey! Did you guys know that Gillian is mixed?

"蔡 卓 妍 ( 阿 Sa ) 說 : 「 遠 睇 都 有 95% 似 , 近 睇 就 90% , 阿 嬌 個 仲 做 到 有 似 鬼 妹 , 不 過 佢 本 身 都 係 有 mix 。 」" (from Appledaily)

"阿Sa說:「阿嬌的蠟像有點似鬼妹,佢本身都有些混血,我們都是第一次見,服裝是參考演唱會的歌衫再造,其實有想過用《千機變》造型,不過動作要保持太耐會有難度,我們還錄了三種語言的聲帶同大家打招呼,稍後我們的蠟像可能有聲音發出來,對蠟像的整體都很滿意。」"(From Wenweipo)

Some people at CCT were saying that it could be that the reporters mixed up Charlene's words, but then it was reported in two different newspapers and Wenweipo doesn't normally make stuff up...What do you guys think?


Those people would find any excuse to criticize twins singing. Are you serious? Can anyone translate those chinese words please!
bluehearts
QUOTE(CathyW @ Jun 29 2006 2 05 PM) [snapback]2598173[/snapback]

Most people agreed with it because they said that they weren't moving their lips to some parts of the song - 不管不管 and 想玩就玩, which Twins are not meant to be singing! dry.gif A Twins fan tried explaining that to them, but they just seemed to have ignored the post........

Hey! Did you guys know that Gillian is mixed?

"蔡 卓 妍 ( 阿 Sa ) 說 : 「 遠 睇 都 有 95% 似 , 近 睇 就 90% , 阿 嬌 個 仲 做 到 有 似 鬼 妹 , 不 過 佢 本 身 都 係 有 mix 。 」" (from Appledaily)

"阿Sa說:「阿嬌的蠟像有點似鬼妹,佢本身都有些混血,我們都是第一次見,服裝是參考演唱會的歌衫再造,其實有想過用《千機變》造型,不過動作要保持太耐會有難度,我們還錄了三種語言的聲帶同大家打招呼,稍後我們的蠟像可能有聲音發出來,對蠟像的整體都很滿意。」"(From Wenweipo)

Some people at CCT were saying that it could be that the reporters mixed up Charlene's words, but then it was reported in two different newspapers and Wenweipo doesn't normally make stuff up...What do you guys think?


Ignorance....I already want to slap them silly dry.gif I bet that person who stated that knew they weren't supposed to sing those parts but just couldn't find any good reasons to put Twins down n_thumbdown.gif Well, there's nothing to do if they chose to believe that's what Twins are doing b/c even if it's right in front of their eyes, they would say otherwise... wacko.gif

Can anyone translate that?

Really? I always thought she looked mixed but there was never any evidence for it. We had this discussion in here a while ago too. Well, if Gillian's mix, she's a beautiful one! infatuated.gif
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 2 39 AM) [snapback]2596699[/snapback]

Aiya, I don't have time to reply but I'll leave this thread with some new photos of Gillian as Ching Ling So in Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain.Gah, Gillian is lovely. Can't wait until its release, it should be sometime this year; time flies by quickly. blush.gif
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/22.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/20.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/31.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/46.jpg
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http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/asillysaint/28.jpg

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif

Thanks for sharing! hug.gif I do hope the serial will come out soon, and hopefully it won't disappoint us.
QUOTE(CathyW @ Jun 29 2006 7 46 AM) [snapback]2597348[/snapback]

They're like that! Those who think that Twins can't sing will always believe that they can't sing... even if they hear a good performance, they will always come up with the most ridiculous reasons to pull it off. Another example would be their most recent JSG performance.. everyone knows that you are no longer allowed to lip sync on JSG, but because Twins gave a good performance of 'Around the world with 80 dollars' on the show, they believe they were lip syncing rolleyes.gif

These people need to get it through their thick heads that people do improve through time. They're simply stereotyping and denying all the improvements that Twins give. It is clear that JSG doesn't allow lip syncing, but they do allow background voices to be played during the performances which explains why the artistes don't move their lips during those parts. Besides, Charlene's respiration was quite audible during that performance; if a CD was being played, it wouldn't have been that audible. innocent.gif
QUOTE(CathyW @ Jun 29 2006 12 05 PM) [snapback]2598173[/snapback]

Hey! Did you guys know that Gillian is mixed?

"蔡 卓 妍 ( 阿 Sa ) 說 : 「 遠 睇 都 有 95% 似 , 近 睇 就 90% , 阿 嬌 個 仲 做 到 有 似 鬼 妹 , 不 過 佢 本 身 都 係 有 mix 。 」" (from Appledaily)

"阿Sa說:「阿嬌的蠟像有點似鬼妹,佢本身都有些混血,我們都是第一次見,服裝是參考演唱會的歌衫再造,其實有想過用《千機變》造型,不過動作要保持太耐會有難度,我們還錄了三種語言的聲帶同大家打招呼,稍後我們的蠟像可能有聲音發出來,對蠟像的整體都很滿意。」"(From Wenweipo)

Some people at CCT were saying that it could be that the reporters mixed up Charlene's words, but then it was reported in two different newspapers and Wenweipo doesn't normally make stuff up...What do you guys think?

It would answer to Gillian's beauty if she really is mixed. Perhaps Gillian herself could be asked for clarification on this. I would think that there'd be a mistake if only one newspaper reported it that way, but besides WenWeiPao, Appledaily said so as well. Charlene should know whether Gillian's mixed or not. If Gillian is mixed, then I'd say she's probably a quarter or an eighth mixed since her mom definitely looks completely chinese, and her father gave her the surname of 'Chung'. I do wonder how she is mixed though. Is she part American? Or is she part Filipino? Those are the two that most people guess on. Haha, Edison's part American, and Kenny's part Filipino. sweat.gif

Appledaily: Charlene Choi said, "It looks 95% like me from far away, but 90% up close. Gillian's wax figure looks so much like a foreigner, but she is mixed herself."

Wenweipao: Charlene said, "Gillian's wax figure looks a bit foreign, but she does have mixed blood in her. This is our first time seeing the wax figures, and the clothing is made from the same plan as the one from our concert; we did suggest to have the figure made of how we looked in TTE, but there was a difficulty of keeping the action pose for so long. We also made a recording of greetings in three different languages, so our wax figures will have vocals later on. We are satisfied with our wax figures in general."
asillysaint
QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 28 2006 6 50 PM) [snapback]2595301[/snapback]
Yeah, I've noticed that, and I'm thinking that Gillian doesn't really have the confidence that she can do as well as she did before. But the same thing happened to Joey before, and as you can see, she still came out at the top even after her breakdown of not being able to sing. I just think that Gillian needs the confidence and some time. Maybe a few more solo performances will help, seeing how well she has done so far. To me, this is also the same with the weight issue about her. There has been alot of criticisms about her gaining weight and being chubby, so she wears jeans to cover up her legs and baggy clothes. And recently, Gillian lost 5 pounds, due to the hectic schedule and eating 'jai' for a month, and it seems like she's wearing a bit more clothes that shows off her figure. Like the picture of Gillian on this one Taiwan variety show, she dressed up a bit more compared to how she dressed when Twins first started to promote their new album. It's still loose, bit it shows off a bit more skin compared to what she usually wore. I think that if people stopped criticising her, that she will feel more comfortable and confident about herself.

http://ent.tom.com/images/pics/060628twins/d/14.jpg

I'd actually like to see Gillian dressing up kind of like Charlene does for once, a skirt and a trendy top, and NO boots that covers up her legs, because that will be telling me that she feels confident about herself, and that she doesn't need to cover herself up because she's afraid about people saying how her she has 'elephant' legs or something. In the beginning when Twins first came out, Gillian actually wore more skirts and shorts that shows off her legs, but after people said that she was getting chubby and had elephant legs, around the time of Twins Effect I, it seems like she's been covering herself up a bit more, then later on she started to stop, but then, again, after people have been talking about her gaining weight, she started to cover herself up again. Stupid people, why can't they shut up and let Gillian be the way she is? That way, she can dress freely without having to worry about people talking about her weight.
True. Fans are so evil towards Gillian especially those fans who favor Sa, Bobo, 2R, and Stephy. I'm not kidding either. Some fans were actually laughing and purposely rubbing it in Gillian's face about the bias treatment. That is extremely ridiculous. Does Gillian really threaten their idol that much to curse her so much and laugh at every misfortune she encounters? Does Gillian really steal the spotlight naturally with just her presence? Gosh, if they wish to support their idol, they can still successfully do so without pulling Gillian into their pool of hatred. I guess, everyone must be waiting for Gillian to fall so that their idol can climb up. whistle.gif And it's not me who is making it seem so but those fans are the ones acting as if Gillian is the Queen Bee, who everyone wishes to push down and have a taste of her crown and throne. whistle.gif Perhaps so. innocent.gif

I would love to see Gillian in sexy skirts and cute tops as well. Gillian has struggled her entire life, these rude inconsiderate people are not making it easy for her at all. The Chinese industry in general loves skin over bones, anything more than that, they call fat especially someone like Gillian, whose beauty is so evident, everyone wants to overthrow that fact by poking fun at her Oh so fake smile, elephant legs, short body, and uncute butt. rolleyes.gif Sorry to say, that's what they call jealousy. Hatred does have reasons and obviously, there are plenty of envious fans. whistle.gif Gillian should stomp those hypocrites with her elephant legs then, show them Gillian! yeah.gif

Well, at least for Joey, after her breakdown, she received the opportunity to rebuild her confidence through practicing solo. That is what Gillian should do, practice and explore her vocals solo. Currently or ever since her throat injury, Twins wouldn't be the healthiest environment for her to recover and regain back the lost confidence because even before the accident, Twins were already in a bad shape so returning back to Twins probably isn't or hasn't helped her much. Gillian needs personal rest to figure out what has been missing ever since the incident. Gillian needs to be relaxed during live performances; clearly, Gillian is most relaxed and comfortable during solo live performances, she releases her voice smoothly and freely, a few more solo performances and Gillian will completely recover just like Joey. As Twins, there is no room for self-discovery or growth and apparently, that is what Gillian needs the most.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 7 56 PM) [snapback]2595624[/snapback]
Yes, Gillian needs more chances to show the narrow minded HK what she is capable of. I shared the mp3 of the Alan+Gillian duet at a chinese forum, but this particular person just gave me this big, long reply about how the song sounded alright, but it was only because Alan did a good job of leading, and the Xiao S+Alan version sounds much better. But this Alan+Gillian version was good, wasn't it? rolleyes.gif It does take more than good leading by your partner to give a good portrayal of a song. I hope Gillian gets more solo opportunities, then she can show some people more evidence that she does well on her own as well as working with a partner. rolleyes.gif

I notice that Charlene has audible breathing on CD as well. After each line, you hear a gasp. I don't know why though since as you've said, don't CD producers make adjustments to make it sound flawless before releasing the song? blink.gif But I suppose computers don't have that advanced of technology to make it absolutely perfect yet. I suppose the CD version of course already sounds the best they can do. Sometimes hearing an unfixed version is scary when you compare it to the CD version. Anyway, Charlene sometimes even sounds flat with notes on CD; couldn't they have fixed it up a bit more? unsure.gif You're right about the live performances thing with Charlene. When she can't go on with it, Charlene will go back with the loud singing because she seems to find comfort with it. Is that really going to work for her? Like just making improvements in the main and plug songs of each album, but not improving for singing in general? Shouldn't improvements in general be made instead? sweat.gif It's not much good if you're an artiste who's only good in one or two songs at a time.
That person obviously is ignoring and denying the fact that it was Gillian herself that contributed to the solo as a whole. Alan lead in the Alan-Sa duet and it didn't turn out that well so that person has no idea what she/he just stated. Alan lead in the same duet with Rainie YET the duet turned out quite horrible. So credits for the wonderful duet goes to both Alan-Gillian for collaborating so well. harhar.gif

Hm, I guess the computer and technical help can erase the air bubbles/gasps but then, it wouldn't be considered real anymore. I mean, who sings without taking any breaths at all? Perhaps the gasps we hear on CD versions are the small ones but the huge more audible ones have been erased, that's probably why Sa sounds quite different live with all of those extra gasps we never really knew existed. blink.gif Technical adjustments are made to clear up some noises and fix some minor things here and there but not completely change the originality of their voices, I guess. As for the flat notes, um, if Sa's voice can't enhance those by itself, I'm afraid even technical support won't help much. Hm, Twins rarely perform unplugged songs so at the moment, Sa is safe but in the long run, Sa would need to improve in all songs in general.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 7 56 PM) [snapback]2595624[/snapback]
I feel that way as well. Her performances at the beginning of her career up until her injury all sounded really nice. I remember there was a huge contrast in singing between Gillian and Charlene when I watched the Ichiban Concert as it was aired on TV. Even my mother, who does edge towards Charlene more, had to admit that Gillian gave a better performance singing. I remember that there was a part their their debut concert that Charlene just went completely flat with her singing. smilie.GIF Trust me, it wasn't enjoyable. Well, by watching their first concert, you will notice that Gillian definitely has better techniques of singing right now, but it's the part about projecting her voice that's different. It seems like after her injury, she doesn't project it as freely with as much openness as she did before. It was really obvious back in 2004 when she started singing with her voice really closed up like it ran into some barrier at her throat before being able to come out. By now, she is slowly recovering to her former projection because she's letting her voice out and more freely now. It could also be that she previously believed that she can't sing because of the former closed up moments of her throat, so she hasn't regained her confidence to sing freely yet. Hopefully, her throat will fully recover soon along with her confidence. Because seriously, you're right about how getting an injury in the throat that caused internal bleeding and damage in your voice box is not a little thing. Fully recovering could take ages, and it could be slowed up by Gillian's workload and lack of rest as well.
Hm, yes that's the spot, Gillian's projection. Before, Gillian would project out her voice without hesitation or anxiety so the projection turned out smoothly and beautifully but now, seems like Gillian is afraid to stretch out her voice up in those notes, afraid she may not reach them completely and crack so she restrains a bit and steps down. Gillian needs more practice in those notes, in her projection, to regain her confidence but sadly, current Twins songs don't have those stretches anymore like their older songs. Gillian needs to confront her weaknesses and she has been but Twins songs are not the best songs to help her on this challenge. All Gillian needs is rest, health, and more solo exploration in other songs that will push her to confront her fears and get it over with, conquer the trauma and fear she lost to.

Given the right amount of practice time, Gillian sings extremely well, Twins Concert 2006. Gillian wonderfully delivered all of the songs so beautifully, perhaps even better than the CD versions. Oh I love Gillian's voice in that concert, so full of life and emotions. Gillian was born to be a singer alright. Long concerts like that back to back didn't wear out Gillian's vocals at all; she kept continuing on so lovely without resorting to any loud substitutions. innocent.gif

QUOTE(CathyW @ Jun 29 2006 6 46 AM) [snapback]2597348[/snapback]
They're like that! Those who think that Twins can't sing will always believe that they can't sing... even if they hear a good performance, they will always come up with the most ridiculous reasons to pull it off. Another example would be their most recent JSG performance.. everyone knows that you are no longer allowed to lip sync on JSG, but because Twins gave a good performance of 'Around the world with 80 dollars' on the show, they believe they were lip syncing rolleyes.gif
True but in a way, Twins perform really well in a sprinkle of performances only. I guess, in order to fully convince the audience that they can sing as a pair, they need more decent live performances to prove their point. But criticizing Twins as lip syncing was a bit extreme.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 29 2006 1 35 PM) [snapback]2598605[/snapback]
These people need to get it through their thick heads that people do improve through time. They're simply stereotyping and denying all the improvements that Twins give. It is clear that JSG doesn't allow lip syncing, but they do allow background voices to be played during the performances which explains why the artistes don't move their lips during those parts. Besides, Charlene's respiration was quite audible during that performance; if a CD was being played, it wouldn't have been that audible. innocent.gif

It would answer to Gillian's beauty if she really is mixed. Perhaps Gillian herself could be asked for clarification on this. I would think that there'd be a mistake if only one newspaper reported it that way, but besides WenWeiPao, Appledaily said so as well. Charlene should know whether Gillian's mixed or not. If Gillian is mixed, then I'd say she's probably a quarter or an eighth mixed since her mom definitely looks completely chinese, and her father gave her the surname of 'Chung'. I do wonder how she is mixed though. Is she part American? Or is she part Filipino? Those are the two that most people guess on. Haha, Edison's part American, and Kenny's part Filipino. sweat.gif

Appledaily: Charlene Choi said, "It looks 95% like me from far away, but 90% up close. Gillian's wax figure looks so much like a foreigner, but she is mixed herself."

Wenweipao: Charlene said, "Gillian's wax figure looks a bit foreign, but she does have mixed blood in her. This is our first time seeing the wax figures, and the clothing is made from the same plan as the one from our concert; we did suggest to have the figure made of how we looked in TTE, but there was a difficulty of keeping the action pose for so long. We also made a recording of greetings in three different languages, so our wax figures will have vocals later on. We are satisfied with our wax figures in general."

Haha, true. Sa's breathing was real, no lip sync version would reveal that realistic fact. loool.gif

Hm, I suppose Gillian is mixed like Edison. Gillian part Filipino? Hm. wacko.gif You know, that's so ironic how Gillian's family roots have remained quite a mystery even up until now, we're still not sure. Sa couldn't have been joking around. And especially with Gillian's father who passed away ever since Gillian was a baby, everything seems so concealed. blink.gif No one has any idea how he looks like, where he's from etc. Well, of course the public doesn't need to dwell into that personal information but it just makes Gillian so much more interesting as an individual. Gillian does need to clarify it herself but so far Gillian has never mentioned anything of that sort so was Sa supposed to leak that out anyway? I see no harm but Gillian may not feel as comfortable giving out information about her past especially things that involve her father, she's extra sensitive. Gillian's mom appears full Chinese as well. blink.gif Perhaps it is Gillian's father who is mixed.

Gillian is beautiful no matter what. n_tt2.gif

Anyway, thanks for the translation. It saved me a lot of time figuring it out lol. hug.gif

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 2 55 PM) [snapback]2598674[/snapback]

Well, at least for Joey, after her breakdown, she received the opportunity to rebuild her confidence through practicing solo. That is what Gillian should do, practice and explore her vocals solo. Currently or ever since her throat injury, Twins wouldn't be the healthiest environment for her to recover and regain back the lost confidence because even before the accident, Twins were already in a bad shape so returning back to Twins probably isn't or hasn't helped her much. Gillian needs personal rest to figure out what has been missing ever since the incident. Gillian needs to be relaxed during live performances; clearly, Gillian is most relaxed and comfortable during solo live performances, she releases her voice smoothly and freely, a few more solo performances and Gillian will completely recover just like Joey. As Twins, there is no room for self-discovery or growth and apparently, that is what Gillian needs the most.

Gillian is starting to recover her vocals more as she is receiving more solo moments, whether it be at the award ceremonies or during the concerts. Her singing always appears to be very restraining when grouped as Twins, but solo singing lets Gillian be more free with her singing. Hopefully, she'll have more solo chances to help herself explore and recover. The confidence that Gillian gains during her Twins performances simply don't compare up to her solo performances. Even though she is doing better even during Twins performances, solo performances are what she needs. Stretch, control, and expand.
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 2 55 PM) [snapback]2598674[/snapback]

Hm, I guess the computer and technical help can erase the air bubbles/gasps but then, it wouldn't be considered real anymore. I mean, who sings without taking any breaths at all? Perhaps the gasps we hear on CD versions are the small ones but the huge more audible ones have been erased, that's probably why Sa sounds quite different live with all of those extra gasps we never really knew existed. blink.gif Technical adjustments are made to clear up some noises and fix some minor things here and there but not completely change the originality of their voices, I guess. As for the flat notes, um, if Sa's voice can't enhance those by itself, I'm afraid even technical support won't help much. Hm, Twins rarely perform unplugged songs so at the moment, Sa is safe but in the long run, Sa would need to improve in all songs in general.

Well, sometimes the CDs we hear really aren't real at all. I think they actually minimize the sound of the gasps but not really able to completely erase them. If you take a listen at Stephy's songs, you'll see what I mean; even though her voice is nice to listen to, I still can't help but notice that there is an audible breath taken after every line. blink.gif I heard a demo version of one of Stephy's songs that was somehow distributed online, which had gone through no technical adjustments, and the breathing was horrible. smilie.GIF I hope Gillian could somehow distribute an unplugged song sometime, or include a little audio clip of recording fragments like some artistes do at the end of their album. I really enjoy listening to unplugged songs because you know that it's absolutely real without any extra enhancing included. Unplugged songs actually sound nicer than the ones that have all these adjustments added in. I love that song 'Twentieth Century Youths' by Ping Pung; it was recorded one take through, and it sounded awesome anyway. clapping.gif Gillian has to get around to releasing one; I bet she'd sound awesome! yeah.gif
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 2 55 PM) [snapback]2598674[/snapback]

Hm, yes that's the spot, Gillian's projection. Before, Gillian would project out her voice without hesitation or anxiety so the projection turned out smoothly and beautifully but now, seems like Gillian is afraid to stretch out her voice up in those notes, afraid she may not reach them completely and crack so she restrains a bit and steps down. Gillian needs more practice in those notes, in her projection, to regain her confidence but sadly, current Twins songs don't have those stretches anymore like their older songs. Gillian needs to confront her weaknesses and she has been but Twins songs are not the best songs to help her on this challenge. All Gillian needs is rest, health, and more solo exploration in other songs that will push her to confront her fears and get it over with, conquer the trauma and fear she lost to.

Given the right amount of practice time, Gillian sings extremely well, Twins Concert 2006. Gillian wonderfully delivered all of the songs so beautifully, perhaps even better than the CD versions. Oh I love Gillian's voice in that concert, so full of life and emotions. Gillian was born to be a singer alright. Long concerts like that back to back didn't wear out Gillian's vocals at all; she kept continuing on so lovely without resorting to any loud substitutions. innocent.gif

I think Gillian's starting to believe in herself again after her solo opportunities. She's now willing to experiment more with her own voice and the notes that she sings in from that performance of 'Hover Bird'. Her projections do still have to go back to how they were before and surpass that point, but at least she's making progress. Let's hope the upcoming album consists of some songs that can help her do that, or at least that her solo allows her to do that. That way, she'll lose her fear soon enough and regain her former glory. yeah.gif

For certain singers, live performances sound better than CD versions because they're more vivid and alive while the CD version is flawless just plain sometimes. Live performances, the singer can add things or change things to make it better or present a different vibe, which is something that Gillian's getting at. shifty.gif Gillian definitely has the potential to be a long term singer; one of the basics of doing so is to not be worn out when singing for about two hours straight. innocent.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 2 55 PM) [snapback]2598674[/snapback]

True but in a way, Twins perform really well in a sprinkle of performances only. I guess, in order to fully convince the audience that they can sing as a pair, they need more decent live performances to prove their point. But criticizing Twins as lip syncing was a bit extreme.

Hm, I suppose Gillian is mixed like Edison. Gillian part Filipino? Hm. wacko.gif You know, that's so ironic how Gillian's family roots have remained quite a mystery even up until now, we're still not sure. Sa couldn't have been joking around. And especially with Gillian's father who passed away ever since Gillian was a baby, everything seems so concealed. blink.gif No one has any idea how he looks like, where he's from etc. Well, of course the public doesn't need to dwell into that personal information but it just makes Gillian so much more interesting as an individual. Gillian does need to clarify it herself but so far Gillian has never mentioned anything of that sort so was Sa supposed to leak that out anyway? I see no harm but Gillian may not feel as comfortable giving out information about her past especially things that involve her father, she's extra sensitive. Gillian's mom appears full Chinese as well. blink.gif Perhaps it is Gillian's father who is mixed.

Gillian is beautiful no matter what. n_tt2.gif

Anyway, thanks for the translation. It saved me a lot of time figuring it out lol. hug.gif

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif

Yeah, they still have to prove that they're able to at least synchronize with each other decently and not just in their recent mandarin songs either.

I think there's a higher chance of Gillian having American blood than Filipino blood as well. In some photos, Gillian looked a lot like a white person, especially with her big and distinct eyes. It's her face shape that looks a bit like a Filipino, but her face features look like Caucasian. She even looked convincing with blond hair when they put one on her for a magazine shoot!

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This information does make Gillian seem more interesting and mysterious. I do hope that Gillian doesn't mind Charlene expressing that. It'd be better if Gillian was to clarify it herself. Even Gillian's father is seeming to be mysterious now because Gillian herself isn't familiar with him either. I wonder if he was a good looking mixed guy? Seeing how Gillian is so beautiful now. blush.gif

You're welcome about the translation! hug.gif

Anyone watch the interview of Twins and Joey at the wax museum on the scoop? Gillian was sooooo cute in the interview! clapping.gif Twins were asked of what new look they would like to try next, and to everyone's surprise, Gillian responded that she wanted to dress up like those thieves in Japanese Anime whom have a cloth tied around their noses with a huge pack tied on their back! Then she went off to imitate how they run with a hunched back! loool.gif She was so cute! And actually quite talkative in that interview, despite Charlene being there. Gillian didn't allow any blank spots for slip-ins during her speech this time. shifty.gif Improvements in many aspects........
bluehearts
Need to go to sleep, no time to reply down.gif but just dropped by to share some "pictures". laugh.gif

After seeing the manipulation lilsleepyhead916 did, I couldn't help and make some last night but lilsleepyhead916's looks so much better! blush.gif

Edison Chen:
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(Quite satisfied with this one)

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(This one seemed a little awkward...even desaturating the pictures, the difference of skin tones is so visible lmao.gif )

Show Luo:
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(Lol..I "gave" Gillian a new hairstyle...kind of...Looking at it more, Gillian's head seemed a little too small unsure.gif )


Credits:
Asianfanatics - Pictures
asillysaint
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 29 2006 8 21 PM) [snapback]2599586[/snapback]
Well, sometimes the CDs we hear really aren't real at all. I think they actually minimize the sound of the gasps but not really able to completely erase them. If you take a listen at Stephy's songs, you'll see what I mean; even though her voice is nice to listen to, I still can't help but notice that there is an audible breath taken after every line. blink.gif I heard a demo version of one of Stephy's songs that was somehow distributed online, which had gone through no technical adjustments, and the breathing was horrible. smilie.GIF I hope Gillian could somehow distribute an unplugged song sometime, or include a little audio clip of recording fragments like some artistes do at the end of their album. I really enjoy listening to unplugged songs because you know that it's absolutely real without any extra enhancing included. Unplugged songs actually sound nicer than the ones that have all these adjustments added in. I love that song 'Twentieth Century Youths' by Ping Pung; it was recorded one take through, and it sounded awesome anyway. clapping.gif Gillian has to get around to releasing one; I bet she'd sound awesome! yeah.gif

I think Gillian's starting to believe in herself again after her solo opportunities. She's now willing to experiment more with her own voice and the notes that she sings in from that performance of 'Hover Bird'. Her projections do still have to go back to how they were before and surpass that point, but at least she's making progress. Let's hope the upcoming album consists of some songs that can help her do that, or at least that her solo allows her to do that. That way, she'll lose her fear soon enough and regain her former glory. yeah.gif

For certain singers, live performances sound better than CD versions because they're more vivid and alive while the CD version is flawless just plain sometimes. Live performances, the singer can add things or change things to make it better or present a different vibe, which is something that Gillian's getting at. shifty.gif Gillian definitely has the potential to be a long term singer; one of the basics of doing so is to not be worn out when singing for about two hours straight. innocent.gif
Really. Well, everytime I listen to Stephy perform live, I would unconsciously breath in and out along with her because I personally think Stephy doesn't sound too good live. blink.gif So I guess that's quite equivalent to the unedited demo you heard. I love the raw sound of Gillian's voice actually. For instance, Gillian sounds the best in those Twins documentary clips of her singing freely and comfortably. At times, technical support may not necessarily always enhance one's voice, it may simply hide away the most beautiful element of it. For example, magazine photoshoots. I personally think that Gillian looks most stunning and gorgeous without all of that heavy makeup, overdone hair, and fashionable clothes, Gillian looks most gorgeous with her simple self-taken pictures like the ones that were shot during her birthday this year; Gillian really looked flawless. Magazine photoshoots at times do so much touch ups and air brush that the final product doesn't even resemble the real Gillian, it's still Gillian but so fake and not even good looking. Music is similar. Gillian to me sounds way better in live performances than any CD has captured the nature of her voice. I have no doubt that if Gillian was to ever release an unedited version as an extra, it would sound even more beautiful than the recorded CD versions.

I hope that this upcoming solo ballad will bring out the best in Gillian. Gillian absolutely sounds wonderful live. She has so much emotions rushing out, it's quite a priceless sight.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 29 2006 8 21 PM) [snapback]2599586[/snapback]
I think there's a higher chance of Gillian having American blood than Filipino blood as well. In some photos, Gillian looked a lot like a white person, especially with her big and distinct eyes. It's her face shape that looks a bit like a Filipino, but her face features look like Caucasian. She even looked convincing with blond hair when they put one on her for a magazine shoot!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b312/Bel...5/Gillian12.jpg

This information does make Gillian seem more interesting and mysterious. I do hope that Gillian doesn't mind Charlene expressing that. It'd be better if Gillian was to clarify it herself. Even Gillian's father is seeming to be mysterious now because Gillian herself isn't familiar with him either. I wonder if he was a good looking mixed guy? Seeing how Gillian is so beautiful now. blush.gif

Anyone watch the interview of Twins and Joey at the wax museum on the scoop? Gillian was sooooo cute in the interview! clapping.gif Twins were asked of what new look they would like to try next, and to everyone's surprise, Gillian responded that she wanted to dress up like those thieves in Japanese Anime whom have a cloth tied around their noses with a huge pack tied on their back! Then she went off to imitate how they run with a hunched back! loool.gif She was so cute! And actually quite talkative in that interview, despite Charlene being there. Gillian didn't allow any blank spots for slip-ins during her speech this time. shifty.gif Improvements in many aspects........
Gillian actually suits blonde hair, lol. I've always believed Gillian to be some type of mix, she doesn't appear full Chinese. She has unique blended features of both worlds. Hm, I'm guessing as well that it's Gillian's father who is mixed and good looking. Gillian in some facial features resembles her mother but not completely, morelike her unknown father.

Hm, Gillian needs to clarify since everyone seems to be so interested. Aw, Gillian was super cute with her answers and good thing she didn't allow any quick slip-ins. innocent.gif

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif

QUOTE(bluehearts @ Jun 29 2006 10 36 PM) [snapback]2600083[/snapback]
Need to go to sleep, no time to reply down.gif but just dropped by to share some "pictures". laugh.gif

After seeing the manipulation lilsleepyhead916 did, I couldn't help and make some last night but lilsleepyhead916's looks so much better! blush.gif

Edison Chen:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4130/20040831e8lx.gif
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8836/edisongillian5on.gif
(This one seemed a little awkward...even desaturating the pictures, the difference of skin tones is so visible lmao.gif )

Show Luo:
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4553/alangillian4ff.gif
(Lol..I "gave" Gillian a new hairstyle...kind of...Looking at it more, Gillian's head seemed a little too small unsure.gif )
Credits:
Asianfanatics - Pictures
All look great, honestly. Boy, I wish I had some talent. I love Alan-Gillian! Thanks for sharing. hug.gif

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif
gReenBuTTerfly
QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 27 2006 9 24 PM) [snapback]2591346[/snapback]

I just made a manipulation of Gillian, replaced Yoon Eun Hye with Gillian. =D

Original
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Manipulated Version
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So what do you guys think? I was bored this morning and I was looking through the gallery from Goong and saw that I might be able to make something out of it. =D

Also, a little EG manipulation in my sig, click on it to view the full version. =D. Edison's head is pretty wierd, but that was the best I could do. I decided to post this up just to liven the thread up a bit and it is Gillian related. =D



Wow, this is awesome. It really is. I don't know how you guys do it but you guys are good. You're good. I wish I could do these kind of stuff, too. But to me, it seems very complicated--too complicated that I wouldn't understand.

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 28 2006 5 23 PM) [snapback]2595188[/snapback]

Um, have you guys noticed that Gillian's live performances before she got her throat injured were all close to perfect? Now, Gillian still sounds nice too but not as solid as before. Like Gillian lost a part of her vocals that allowed her to deliver the notes beautifully. Gillian's voice has improved tremendously but I can't help but notice how different Gillian sounds now after the injury? Do you guys think Gillian's throat still hurts? And is seriously damaged? I mean, a kick to the throat is a pretty heavy and serious incident that just doesn't heal within a year or two, it could take up to 10-15 years to fully recover and with no rest like Gillian, her throat may not be recovering at the normal rate. blink.gif Or has Gillian lost too much confidence during that rough time to sing again? Hm, listen to the earlier performances of Twins, Gillian sounded awesome, like completely breath taking, now Gillian sounds just as sensational but something is missing and I cannot pin point what exactly but for sure, this all happened after the throat injury. And if the cause is that throat injury, I applaud Gillian for still doing a beautifully great job at singing with emotions. Aw poor Gillian. Gosh, Gillian is such a determined and strong woman.

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif


Are you serious about this? When did this happen? How did this happen? How come I didn't know about it? Gillian injuryed her throat and yet she continue singing?
This just show how dedicated Gillian is. She still managed to sing gracefully and with a lot of energy.
I think Gillian is still progressing and in time she will sing like how she use too.
She's already doing a fine job and still surprises us sometime so I'm sure she'll get there.



QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Jun 28 2006 5 50 PM) [snapback]2595301[/snapback]

Yeah, I've noticed that, and I'm thinking that Gillian doesn't really have the confidence that she can do as well as she did before. But the same thing happened to Joey before, and as you can see, she still came out at the top even after her breakdown of not being able to sing. I just think that Gillian needs the confidence and some time. Maybe a few more solo performances will help, seeing how well she has done so far. To me, this is also the same with the weight issue about her. There has been alot of criticisms about her gaining weight and being chubby, so she wears jeans to cover up her legs and baggy clothes. And recently, Gillian lost 5 pounds, due to the hectic schedule and eating 'jai' for a month, and it seems like she's wearing a bit more clothes that shows off her figure. Like the picture of Gillian on this one Taiwan variety show, she dressed up a bit more compared to how she dressed when Twins first started to promote their new album. It's still loose, bit it shows off a bit more skin compared to what she usually wore. I think that if people stopped criticising her, that she will feel more comfortable and confident about herself.

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The outfit I was talking about.

I'd actually like to see Gillian dressing up kind of like Charlene does for once, a skirt and a trendy top, and NO boots that covers up her legs, because that will be telling me that she feels confident about herself, and that she doesn't need to cover herself up because she's afraid about people saying how her she has 'elephant' legs or something. In the beginning when Twins first came out, Gillian actually wore more skirts and shorts that shows off her legs, but after people said that she was getting chubby and had elephant legs, around the time of Twins Effect I, it seems like she's been covering herself up a bit more, then later on she started to stop, but then, again, after people have been talking about her gaining weight, she started to cover herself up again. Stupid people, why can't they shut up and let Gillian be the way she is? That way, she can dress freely without having to worry about people talking about her weight.


It's ridiculous that Hong Kong would say such things. They're always complaining how there aren't any good actresses or actors/ singers and yet they criticize the ones who actually are good.
I know Gillian is someone who can take Hong Kong's reputation if given the chance.
I don't know why they would even criticize Gillian on her size when obiviously she isn't fat at .all.
In the U.S, the entertainment would say she's too skinny.
I, too, want to see Gillian show off a little skin here and there because she's beautiful the way she is already. Seeing her in that blue bikini a few weeks ago, she didn't look anything like she's chubby or she had elephant legs. Her legs were fine and perfect. People who criticize others are those who doesn't feel good about themselves and since they don't want others to criticize them they have to do it to someone else. Since Gillian such a gentle person that's their target. There's nothing good about themselves that they feel threaten by beautiful people like Gillian. How pathetic!!!!! People like those need to get a life. It's getting old.
The world would see you're beautiful only when you see yourself beautiful. I'm sure that's how Gillian feels. She know she's beautiful but if having your own community judge and critcize you on everything you do then it's going to put a little strain on yourself wondering if you're good enough or pretty enough or skinny enough. I wish everyone would just leave Gillian alone and let her be herself. Give her the opportunity she needs to shine more--expand her singing and acting career. I surely believe that with the potential Gillian has she can be all of china's 'it' actress.
Gillian's a strong lady but very sensative and I believe with everything in me that no matter how much people criticize her or put her down she will just stand back up with her head up high and continue on.
Okay I'm letting my mind run wild but I can't help it. I guess when you're Asian and since Asians are always small and petite you're expected to be skin and bone. It's such a drag because they're missing out on Gillian by critcizing her so much. What a Pity??????!!!!!!!



QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 28 2006 6 56 PM) [snapback]2595624[/snapback]

Yes, Gillian needs more chances to show the narrow minded HK what she is capable of. I shared the mp3 of the Alan+Gillian duet at a chinese forum, but this particular person just gave me this big, long reply about how the song sounded alright, but it was only because Alan did a good job of leading, and the Xiao S+Alan version sounds much better. But this Alan+Gillian version was good, wasn't it? rolleyes.gif It does take more than good leading by your partner to give a good portrayal of a song. I hope Gillian gets more solo opportunities, then she can show some people more evidence that she does well on her own as well as working with a partner. rolleyes.gif

I notice that Charlene has audible breathing on CD as well. After each line, you hear a gasp. I don't know why though since as you've said, don't CD producers make adjustments to make it sound flawless before releasing the song? blink.gif But I suppose computers don't have that advanced of technology to make it absolutely perfect yet. I suppose the CD version of course already sounds the best they can do. Sometimes hearing an unfixed version is scary when you compare it to the CD version. Anyway, Charlene sometimes even sounds flat with notes on CD; couldn't they have fixed it up a bit more? unsure.gif You're right about the live performances thing with Charlene. When she can't go on with it, Charlene will go back with the loud singing because she seems to find comfort with it. Is that really going to work for her? Like just making improvements in the main and plug songs of each album, but not improving for singing in general? Shouldn't improvements in general be made instead? sweat.gif It's not much good if you're an artiste who's only good in one or two songs at a time.


Oh my gosh and I thought I was the only one noticing that. My sister and I were just having this talk about how Charlene sings. It seems like she can't hold her breath long and she always constantly taking some breath which isn't good. That's probably why she's always singing so loud. The way Charlene sing is like she's out of breath or something.
Although she's done a fine job but I still think Charlene needs more work on her singing career. I'm sure she can get better if she just practice more and work on holding a her breath for a bit longer than constantly taking some breather when there's a stop in the song. I'm not saying it's wrong but if you constantly do it all the time and loud then it's gets really annoying and seems unprofessional.
Gill#1Fan
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 29 2006 11 21 PM) [snapback]2599586[/snapback]

Gillian is starting to recover her vocals more as she is receiving more solo moments, whether it be at the award ceremonies or during the concerts. Her singing always appears to be very restraining when grouped as Twins, but solo singing lets Gillian be more free with her singing. Hopefully, she'll have more solo chances to help herself explore and recover. The confidence that Gillian gains during her Twins performances simply don't compare up to her solo performances. Even though she is doing better even during Twins performances, solo performances are what she needs. Stretch, control, and expand.


Even though Gillian improve on her singing and sounds really nice in the label of "Twins", but you gotta remember her partner does all the loud singing which cracks the chorus part and ruins it.

QUOTE(bluehearts @ Jun 30 2006 1 36 AM) [snapback]2600083[/snapback]

Need to go to sleep, no time to reply down.gif but just dropped by to share some "pictures". laugh.gif

After seeing the manipulation lilsleepyhead916 did, I couldn't help and make some last night but lilsleepyhead916's looks so much better! blush.gif

Edison Chen:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4130/20040831e8lx.gif
(Quite satisfied with this one)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8836/edisongillian5on.gif
(This one seemed a little awkward...even desaturating the pictures, the difference of skin tones is so visible lmao.gif )

Show Luo:
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4553/alangillian4ff.gif
(Lol..I "gave" Gillian a new hairstyle...kind of...Looking at it more, Gillian's head seemed a little too small unsure.gif )


Wow! All of them look so nice. And actually the first and third one look really real! Both Edison and Gillian was at the same function in the first one? Cause they were holding the same mic.

EditeD: Found a new clip of Twins singing at a Tawain show..Gillian hit her notes well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C04inhHZwc

Here's some new semir ad pictures, Gill got straight hair!

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QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 4 55 PM) [snapback]2598674[/snapback]

Well, at least for Joey, after her breakdown, she received the opportunity to rebuild her confidence through practicing solo. That is what Gillian should do, practice and explore her vocals solo. Currently or ever since her throat injury, Twins wouldn't be the healthiest environment for her to recover and regain back the lost confidence because even before the accident, Twins were already in a bad shape so returning back to Twins probably isn't or hasn't helped her much. Gillian needs personal rest to figure out what has been missing ever since the incident. Gillian needs to be relaxed during live performances; clearly, Gillian is most relaxed and comfortable during solo live performances, she releases her voice smoothly and freely, a few more solo performances and Gillian will completely recover just like Joey. As Twins, there is no room for self-discovery or growth and apparently, that is what Gillian needs the most.


Gillian restrains her voice too much in Twins songs because she wants to synchronize with Charlene but even if she restrains her voice, it doesn't work. It just stops Gillian's throat from healing faster. She needs the solo performances to sing at the level she wants without any obstacles. It will also make her throat feel better because it can get sore by restraining her voice down.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 4 55 PM) [snapback]2598674[/snapback]

Hm, yes that's the spot, Gillian's projection. Before, Gillian would project out her voice without hesitation or anxiety so the projection turned out smoothly and beautifully but now, seems like Gillian is afraid to stretch out her voice up in those notes, afraid she may not reach them completely and crack so she restrains a bit and steps down. Gillian needs more practice in those notes, in her projection, to regain her confidence but sadly, current Twins songs don't have those stretches anymore like their older songs. Gillian needs to confront her weaknesses and she has been but Twins songs are not the best songs to help her on this challenge. All Gillian needs is rest, health, and more solo exploration in other songs that will push her to confront her fears and get it over with, conquer the trauma and fear she lost to.


Gillian's past performances before her throat injury sounded more solid and less hesitant, like you said. I hope she would get a few more solo performances to help her because solo performances would give her greater fear but also increase her confidence when she overcomes it. It also let's her see her faults and hear how she projects her own voice that she can't do because 1. She has to worry about how well they will sync. 2. There's another voice. 3. Her voice gets overcrowded.

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 29 2006 4 55 PM) [snapback]2598674[/snapback]

Hm, I suppose Gillian is mixed like Edison. Gillian part Filipino? Hm. wacko.gif You know, that's so ironic how Gillian's family roots have remained quite a mystery even up until now, we're still not sure. Sa couldn't have been joking around. And especially with Gillian's father who passed away ever since Gillian was a baby, everything seems so concealed. blink.gif No one has any idea how he looks like, where he's from etc. Well, of course the public doesn't need to dwell into that personal information but it just makes Gillian so much more interesting as an individual. Gillian does need to clarify it herself but so far Gillian has never mentioned anything of that sort so was Sa supposed to leak that out anyway? I see no harm but Gillian may not feel as comfortable giving out information about her past especially things that involve her father, she's extra sensitive. Gillian's mom appears full Chinese as well. blink.gif Perhaps it is Gillian's father who is mixed.

Gillian is beautiful no matter what. n_tt2.gif

Anyway, thanks for the translation. It saved me a lot of time figuring it out lol. hug.gif

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif


Gillian seemed more lightly to have American blood because her skin tone is pale. Filipinos have darker skin tone. Well, she just looks more American mix than Filipino anyways...lolx...her features are more western.

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 29 2006 11 21 PM) [snapback]2599586[/snapback]

I think there's a higher chance of Gillian having American blood than Filipino blood as well. In some photos, Gillian looked a lot like a white person, especially with her big and distinct eyes. It's her face shape that looks a bit like a Filipino, but her face features look like Caucasian. She even looked convincing with blond hair when they put one on her for a magazine shoot!

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This information does make Gillian seem more interesting and mysterious. I do hope that Gillian doesn't mind Charlene expressing that. It'd be better if Gillian was to clarify it herself. Even Gillian's father is seeming to be mysterious now because Gillian herself isn't familiar with him either. I wonder if he was a good looking mixed guy? Seeing how Gillian is so beautiful now. blush.gif


Gillian looks pretty convincing with that dirty blonde wig on. I think she would look more convincing as brunette though...I wish Gillian would be able to reveal something about her dad but I wonder if she knows much about him? He died so early down.gif It's sad that Gillian lost her dad so early and had to be strong for her family. Not much people is this selfless anymore. So admirable infatuated.gif


QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 29 2006 11 21 PM) [snapback]2599586[/snapback]
Anyone watch the interview of Twins and Joey at the wax museum on the scoop? Gillian was sooooo cute in the interview! clapping.gif Twins were asked of what new look they would like to try next, and to everyone's surprise, Gillian responded that she wanted to dress up like those thieves in Japanese Anime whom have a cloth tied around their noses with a huge pack tied on their back! Then she went off to imitate how they run with a hunched back! loool.gif She was so cute! And actually quite talkative in that interview, despite Charlene being there. Gillian didn't allow any blank spots for slip-ins during her speech this time. shifty.gif Improvements in many aspects........[/font][/color]


Gillian's answer is funny and cute! laugh.gif I was laughing when I read the part about 'a cloth around their noses'. I would love to see Gillian in a role like that or maybe just a photoshoot. It will be funny dance.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 30 2006 2 45 AM) [snapback]2600295[/snapback]

Really. Well, everytime I listen to Stephy perform live, I would unconsciously breath in and out along with her because I personally think Stephy doesn't sound too good live. blink.gif So I guess that's quite equivalent to the unedited demo you heard. I love the raw sound of Gillian's voice actually. For instance, Gillian sounds the best in those Twins documentary clips of her singing freely and comfortably. At times, technical support may not necessarily always enhance one's voice, it may simply hide away the most beautiful element of it. For example, magazine photoshoots. I personally think that Gillian looks most stunning and gorgeous without all of that heavy makeup, overdone hair, and fashionable clothes, Gillian looks most gorgeous with her simple self-taken pictures like the ones that were shot during her birthday this year; Gillian really looked flawless. Magazine photoshoots at times do so much touch ups and air brush that the final product doesn't even resemble the real Gillian, it's still Gillian but so fake and not even good looking. Music is similar. Gillian to me sounds way better in live performances than any CD has captured the nature of her voice. I have no doubt that if Gillian was to ever release an unedited version as an extra, it would sound even more beautiful than the recorded CD versions.

All look great, honestly. Boy, I wish I had some talent. I love Alan-Gillian! Thanks for sharing.


Stephy doesn't sound nice at live performaces.... wacko.gif Not after I watched the "All About Women Concert". Her voice was too high and sharp and she can't seemed to control her voice....I didn't understand why Kary didn't sing solo but with Stephy unsure.gif

I agree that Gillian looks the best with simple things. Simplicity matches well with Gillian. She is not a person that needs a lot of cover up and enhantments. blush.gif

Thanks hug.gif and you have talent in making great MVs! I wish I am able to do that but it's too complicated to me... sweat.gif

QUOTE(gReenBuTTerfly @ Jun 30 2006 3 27 AM) [snapback]2600368[/snapback]

It's ridiculous that Hong Kong would say such things. They're always complaining how there aren't any good actresses or actors/ singers and yet they criticize the ones who actually are good.
I know Gillian is someone who can take Hong Kong's reputation if given the chance.
I don't know why they would even criticize Gillian on her size when obiviously she isn't fat at .all.
In the U.S, the entertainment would say she's too skinny.
I, too, want to see Gillian show off a little skin here and there because she's beautiful the way she is already. Seeing her in that blue bikini a few weeks ago, she didn't look anything like she's chubby or she had elephant legs. Her legs were fine and perfect. People who criticize others are those who doesn't feel good about themselves and since they don't want others to criticize them they have to do it to someone else. Since Gillian such a gentle person that's their target. There's nothing good about themselves that they feel threaten by beautiful people like Gillian. How pathetic!!!!! People like those need to get a life. It's getting old.
The world would see you're beautiful only when you see yourself beautiful. I'm sure that's how Gillian feels. She know she's beautiful but if having your own community judge and critcize you on everything you do then it's going to put a little strain on yourself wondering if you're good enough or pretty enough or skinny enough. I wish everyone would just leave Gillian alone and let her be herself. Give her the opportunity she needs to shine more--expand her singing and acting career. I surely believe that with the potential Gillian has she can be all of china's 'it' actress.
Gillian's a strong lady but very sensative and I believe with everything in me that no matter how much people criticize her or put her down she will just stand back up with her head up high and continue on.
Okay I'm letting my mind run wild but I can't help it. I guess when you're Asian and since Asians are always small and petite you're expected to be skin and bone. It's such a drag because they're missing out on Gillian by critcizing her so much. What a Pity??????!!!!!!!



I agree with you. Gillian is a strong but yet sensitive person. It's really cruel that people are so rude and demanding of Gillian. Even when she is fine and improving, it's still not satisfying enough. Well, though people would be the ones who are going to be in a pool of hatred for a long time because Gillian would be standing strong and carry on in the entertainment circle unless, of course, she wants to step down and have her own life. blush.gif

QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ Jun 30 2006 8 11 AM) [snapback]2600905[/snapback]

Even though Gillian improve on her singing and sounds really nice in the label of "Twins", but you gotta remember her partner does all the loud singing which cracks the chorus part and ruins it.
Wow! All of them look so nice. And actually the first and third one look really real! Both Edison and Gillian was at the same function in the first one? Cause they were holding the same mic.

EditeD: Found a new clip of Twins singing at a Tawain show..Gillian hit her notes well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C04inhHZwc

Here's some new semir ad pictures, Gill got straight hair!

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Nah...I just pasted Gillian's hear on the girl. All of them, I just paste on the head lmao.gif

Thanks for sharing the video and pictures!

I think Semir makes Gillian look so pretty and refreshing....Like the summer photoshoot with that wavy-ish hair style and now giving her straight hair again after so long! thumbsup.gif

Edit: Just watched the video. I think Gillian was attempting to vibratos? sweat.gif Aww...it was so sweet when the crowd screamed when Gillian finished her part of the first verse. I heard a really quick 'Yay, Ah Gill' can totally miss that but I was listening really carefully..lolx...Gillian was really close with the first group of girls that performed "Starlight Wonderland". They put their arms loosely around each other and sang. That was totally sweet. I wish I was there thumbsup.gif
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GILLIAN ROCKS clapping.gif
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QUOTE(bluehearts @ Jun 29 2006 11 36 PM) [snapback]2600083[/snapback]

Need to go to sleep, no time to reply down.gif but just dropped by to share some "pictures". laugh.gif

After seeing the manipulation lilsleepyhead916 did, I couldn't help and make some last night but lilsleepyhead916's looks so much better! blush.gif

Edison Chen:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4130/20040831e8lx.gif
(Quite satisfied with this one)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8836/edisongillian5on.gif
(This one seemed a little awkward...even desaturating the pictures, the difference of skin tones is so visible lmao.gif )

Show Luo:
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4553/alangillian4ff.gif
(Lol..I "gave" Gillian a new hairstyle...kind of...Looking at it more, Gillian's head seemed a little too small unsure.gif )
Credits:
Asianfanatics - Pictures

Your manips turned out great as well! yeah.gif I like the first one and the third one the most! infatuated.gif

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 30 2006 12 45 AM) [snapback]2600295[/snapback]

Really. Well, everytime I listen to Stephy perform live, I would unconsciously breath in and out along with her because I personally think Stephy doesn't sound too good live. blink.gif So I guess that's quite equivalent to the unedited demo you heard. I love the raw sound of Gillian's voice actually. For instance, Gillian sounds the best in those Twins documentary clips of her singing freely and comfortably. At times, technical support may not necessarily always enhance one's voice, it may simply hide away the most beautiful element of it. For example, magazine photoshoots. I personally think that Gillian looks most stunning and gorgeous without all of that heavy makeup, overdone hair, and fashionable clothes, Gillian looks most gorgeous with her simple self-taken pictures like the ones that were shot during her birthday this year; Gillian really looked flawless. Magazine photoshoots at times do so much touch ups and air brush that the final product doesn't even resemble the real Gillian, it's still Gillian but so fake and not even good looking. Music is similar. Gillian to me sounds way better in live performances than any CD has captured the nature of her voice. I have no doubt that if Gillian was to ever release an unedited version as an extra, it would sound even more beautiful than the recorded CD versions.

I hope that this upcoming solo ballad will bring out the best in Gillian. Gillian absolutely sounds wonderful live. She has so much emotions rushing out, it's quite a priceless sight.

I don't think Stephy sounds very good live either; she does sound better when she's singing with someone else though. She sounded really good when being a guest at Kary's concert and singing with her, and it was definitely rare to hear no extremely audible gasps and chokes from Stephy when she sings. sweat.gif The technical support can absolutely be positive or negative; for people who gasp for breath, it'd be a good thing, but for singers like Gillian who sound best naturally, it doesn't do her voice much justice with the excess elements added in. Gillian's voice on CD sometimes just sounds so pressured and compressed when we're sure that she can provide much more emotions and strength than what's heard on CD. I agree about the magazine photoshoots as well; Gillian is someone who needs to present herself naturally, which is the best side of her. She doesn't need all the extra make-up on her, a thin coat of necessary make-up is good enough for her.

Hopefully, Gillian's solo will have an unedited version of it released. shifty.gif Then we can compare the two versions, but I don't doubt that the more natural version will probably sound better. When comparing two things, I usually find the one that is more simple more enjoyable. All the elaborate add-ons sometimes just get overwhelming. wacko.gif


QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 30 2006 12 45 AM) [snapback]2600295[/snapback]

Gillian actually suits blonde hair, lol. I've always believed Gillian to be some type of mix, she doesn't appear full Chinese. She has unique blended features of both worlds. Hm, I'm guessing as well that it's Gillian's father who is mixed and good looking. Gillian in some facial features resembles her mother but not completely, morelike her unknown father.

Hm, Gillian needs to clarify since everyone seems to be so interested. Aw, Gillian was super cute with her answers and good thing she didn't allow any quick slip-ins. innocent.gif

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif

Some people have never believed of how Gillian is full Chinese, and she clearly doesn't look like it either. Her face features are just too distinctive and bright to suit as a regular Chinese person. Usually, when Chinese features mix with others such as Caucasians, the outcome is quite beautiful. Gillian clearly is beautiful, and she spreads an essence of a foreigner. Argh, the discussion about the same topic at CCT is getting annoying though; we have that same person, who 'warned' me about how I shouldn't discuss about Charlene if I liked Gillian more, participating in the discussion about how Gillian may be mixed and being all against it, claiming that she and her friends all supposedly have similar features as Gillian, and none of them are mixed, claiming of how everyone is misinterpreting what Charlene said, etc. Geez, and she is none other than a Charlene fan. innocent.gif Where'd the part about not being allowed to discuss about someone if you don't like her as much? innocent.gif Anyway, I just hope that Gillian will do some clarifying soon.
QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ Jun 30 2006 6 11 AM) [snapback]2600905[/snapback]

Wow! All of them look so nice. And actually the first and third one look really real! Both Edison and Gillian was at the same function in the first one? Cause they were holding the same mic.

EditeD: Found a new clip of Twins singing at a Tawain show..Gillian hit her notes well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C04inhHZwc

Here's some new semir ad pictures, Gill got straight hair!

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http://i5.tinypic.com/168yjk2.jpg

I think bluehearts took a photo of two other people appearing at the same function and pasted Edison's and Gillian's heads on their heads instead of Edison and Gillian being at the same function at once. unsure.gif

Thanks for sharing the clip! Gillian did sound great in the performance! It sounded just like the CD version, perhaps even better! clapping.gif

The photos look great! Gillian looks so energetic and active in them! I like the last one the most; she looks so cute with that headband. infatuated.gif
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QUOTE(gReenBuTTerfly @ Jun 30 2006 12 27 AM) [snapback]2600368[/snapback]
Are you serious about this? When did this happen? How did this happen? How come I didn't know about it? Gillian injuryed her throat and yet she continue singing?
This just show how dedicated Gillian is. She still managed to sing gracefully and with a lot of energy.
I think Gillian is still progressing and in time she will sing like how she use too.
She's already doing a fine job and still surprises us sometime so I'm sure she'll get there.
Gillian injured her throat during the filming of House Of Fury, someone accidently kicked her in the throat resulting in painful internal bleeding. Hm, ironically, I don't remember reading news about it either or perhaps I missed it? blink.gif Little_Purple_Bell informed us a while ago, which made perfect sense because Gillian does sound quite different from earlier live performances before the accident. And what is most funny is, news this serious, any type of internal bleeding is life threatening, never got majorly publicized or made into reasonable excuses why Gillian couldn't sing decently for a period of time. Everyone sympathized for Sa and her surgeries but does anyone else know except for the fans that visit this thread that Gillian went through hell as well, afraid she may never fully recover, especially her voice box, the most essential part, the main powerhouse of her career? And what did Mani and the rest of EEG do afterwards? They just simply brushed it aside and continued stacking up projects for Gillian without much rest. dry.gif Yet Gillian never really announced her complaints or overwhelming pressure. I mean, here Gillian is scared to death about her health yet she still has to hop onstage, face the audience and sing, sing with half the energy and abilities she used to have. On top of that, because Gillian didn't make a huge deal out of it, the audience had no idea what fears were attacking Gillian and only criticized her more and more that she couldn't sing period, which was not the case at all. I admire Gillian. Now she is the strongest one of all and quite humble. down.gif

QUOTE(Gill#1Fan @ Jun 30 2006 5 11 AM) [snapback]2600905[/snapback]
EditeD: Found a new clip of Twins singing at a Tawain show..Gillian hit her notes well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C04inhHZwc
It was so cute when the crowd were loudly cheering for Gillian; observe Sa's serious face when Gillian gently blushed with a smile. whistle.gif

Gillian sounds excellent, absolutely wonderful. Gillian did hit every note perfectly. blush.gif Thanks for sharing.

QUOTE(bluehearts @ Jun 30 2006 10 36 AM) [snapback]2601742[/snapback]
Stephy doesn't sound nice at live performaces.... wacko.gif Not after I watched the "All About Women Concert". Her voice was too high and sharp and she can't seemed to control her voice....I didn't understand why Kary didn't sing solo but with Stephy unsure.gif

I agree that Gillian looks the best with simple things. Simplicity matches well with Gillian. She is not a person that needs a lot of cover up and enhantments. blush.gif

Thanks hug.gif and you have talent in making great MVs! I wish I am able to do that but it's too complicated to me... sweat.gif

Edit: Just watched the video. I think Gillian was attempting to vibratos? sweat.gif Aww...it was so sweet when the crowd screamed when Gillian finished her part of the first verse. I heard a really quick 'Yay, Ah Gill' can totally miss that but I was listening really carefully..lolx...Gillian was really close with the first group of girls that performed "Starlight Wonderland". They put their arms loosely around each other and sang. That was totally sweet. I wish I was there thumbsup.gif
Yeah, Stephy does have a sharp voice, she needs to steer her respiration and her voice properly. It's so unfair for Kary, Bernice is obviously TVB's favorite, she sang two songs and Kary was only invited to sing a duet with Stephy in the album? n_thumbdown.gif They should have shared one of those ballads with Kary to make it equal.

Yeah, I love Gillian's nice and smooth skin without all of that makeup. She's gorgeous being simple like Ching Ling So. blush.gif Music videos are nothing. It's pretty simple to make, just a lot of patience and clips to assemble a nice music video together. But at least we're all doing this for Gillian! hug.gif

I heard some vibratos. Cheers for Gillian. clapping.gif Yeah, the crowd loudly cheered Gillian on, I heard that too; it was quite audible. Gillian was blushing so sweetly with a beautiful smile and *ahem* Sa returned with such a stern and serious face, not the usual bubbly and laughing face this time eh? whistle.gif Hm, these girls were quite horrible lol but I guess we shouldn't expect much since they're not real singers. blush.gif

QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Jun 30 2006 10 58 AM) [snapback]2601793[/snapback]
I don't think Stephy sounds very good live either; she does sound better when she's singing with someone else though. She sounded really good when being a guest at Kary's concert and singing with her, and it was definitely rare to hear no extremely audible gasps and chokes from Stephy when she sings. sweat.gif The technical support can absolutely be positive or negative; for people who gasp for breath, it'd be a good thing, but for singers like Gillian who sound best naturally, it doesn't do her voice much justice with the excess elements added in. Gillian's voice on CD sometimes just sounds so pressured and compressed when we're sure that she can provide much more emotions and strength than what's heard on CD. I agree about the magazine photoshoots as well; Gillian is someone who needs to present herself naturally, which is the best side of her. She doesn't need all the extra make-up on her, a thin coat of necessary make-up is good enough for her.

Hopefully, Gillian's solo will have an unedited version of it released. shifty.gif Then we can compare the two versions, but I don't doubt that the more natural version will probably sound better. When comparing two things, I usually find the one that is more simple more enjoyable. All the elaborate add-ons sometimes just get overwhelming. wacko.gif


Some people have never believed of how Gillian is full Chinese, and she clearly doesn't look like it either. Her face features are just too distinctive and bright to suit as a regular Chinese person. Usually, when Chinese features mix with others such as Caucasians, the outcome is quite beautiful. Gillian clearly is beautiful, and she spreads an essence of a foreigner. Argh, the discussion about the same topic at CCT is getting annoying though; we have that same person, who 'warned' me about how I shouldn't discuss about Charlene if I liked Gillian more, participating in the discussion about how Gillian may be mixed and being all against it, claiming that she and her friends all supposedly have similar features as Gillian, and none of them are mixed, claiming of how everyone is misinterpreting what Charlene said, etc. Geez, and she is none other than a Charlene fan. innocent.gif Where'd the part about not being allowed to discuss about someone if you don't like her as much? innocent.gif Anyway, I just hope that Gillian will do some clarifying soon.
Stephy sounds nice with Alex as well. Hm, could Alex be like Alan in that, both of their voices suit the majority of female singers? I would love to hear a duet between Alex-Gillian, real or for fun, now that we've heard how well Alan-Gillian blended in Mandarin.

True. Gillian's voice seems compressed and pressured on CD so everytime I hear a live version, I don't ever wish to return to the CD versions anymore because they absolutely do Gillian's voice no justice at all. Gillian is best being simple and natural, true beauty. blush.gif

I'm getting excited for this upcoming Cantonese ballad. Can't wait to hear another long waited ballad from Gillian. sweat.gif

Whether Gillian is mixed or not, that has nothing to do with her. So is she trying to say that she is just as beautiful as Gillian? If she is, she should at least provide a visible picture. whistle.gif I hate it when impulsive fans state gibberish things about another idol to defend their idol. rolleyes.gif She is definitely a hypocrite. Hey, no one asked her how she looks like, she voluntarily claimed to have similar features to Gillian so curious as I am, I just want to know. whistle.gif This person obviously has a problem with Gillian. She's against something she's not even certain of nor does it directly concern her. I mean, if Gillian is mixed, is it going to steal the spotlight away from Twins/Sa and only focus on Gillian or what? Perhaps so. Seems like everything about Gillian is just so threatening to their idols. I never knew Gillian had this much impact and power lol. whistle.gif

Go Gillian~ yeah.gif
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QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 30 2006 2 00 PM) [snapback]2602089[/snapback]

Yeah, Stephy does have a sharp voice, she needs to steer her respiration and her voice properly. It's so unfair for Kary, Bernice is obviously TVB's favorite, she sang two songs and Kary was only invited to sing a duet with Stephy in the album? n_thumbdown.gif They should have shared one of those ballads with Kary to make it equal.

I agree with both of your points. Stephy just needs some more training on techniques of singing, and she should be able to be a decent singer, given her voice base. Kary was so ripped off for that album; I can say that she is practically the best singer in the album, and she was offered half a song to sing? Bernice is just starting out, but she was given two songs, and not to mention two awards at the JSG awards? The same amount of awards that Joey received? blink.gif But every company has their pattern of favoritism, so completely understandable. innocent.gif On the bright side, Kary can just save her singing onto her next personal album for her own benefit instead of this album that is used only to promote TVB's artistes. whistle.gif
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 30 2006 2 00 PM) [snapback]2602089[/snapback]

I heard some vibratos. Cheers for Gillian. clapping.gif Yeah, the crowd loudly cheered Gillian on, I heard that too; it was quite audible. Gillian was blushing so sweetly with a beautiful smile and *ahem* Sa returned with such a stern and serious face, not the usual bubbly and laughing face this time eh? whistle.gif Hm, these girls were quite horrible lol but I guess we shouldn't expect much since they're not real singers. blush.gif

The sudden cheering really shows a lot in the short, few seconds. I watched it over after you mentioned that, and did you see Gillian's sudden expression change as well? She was blushing and slightly giggling when the crowd started cheering, and as she looked over at Charlene, she quickly hid her smile. Wonder if it's because of the expression Charlene returned to her? whistle.gif I've also noticed that as the hosts asked about how the contestants sang or what they should be cautious about, Gillian was the one who actually gave tips on singing; she told the first group to be cautious about hitting the right notes and told the second group to look into their respiration. Charlene, who just spoke first, commented that the first group had keys that were similar and the second group used good emotions, but when Gillian expressed her thoughts, she went along to agreeing. rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(asillysaint @ Jun 30 2006 2 00 PM) [snapback]2602089[/snapback]

Stephy sounds nice with Alex as well. Hm, could Alex be like Alan in that, both of their voices suit the majority of female singers? I would love to hear a duet between Alex-Gillian, real or for fun, now that we've heard how well Alan-Gillian blended in Mandarin.

Whether Gillian is mixed or not, that has nothing to do with her. So is she trying to say that she is just as beautiful as Gillian? If she is, she should at least provide a visible picture. whistle.gif I hate it when impulsive fans state gibberish things about another idol to defend their idol. rolleyes.gif She is definitely a hypocrite. Hey, no one asked her how she looks like, she voluntarily claimed to have similar features to Gillian so curious as I am, I just want to know. whistle.gif This person obviously has a problem with Gillian. She's against something she's not even certain of nor does it directly concern her. I mean, if Gillian is mixed, is it going to steal the spotlight away from Twins/Sa and only focus on Gillian or what? Perhaps so. Seems like everything about Gillian is just so threatening to their idols. I never knew Gillian had this much impact and power lol. whistle.gif

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Yeah, that's why I think Stephy sounds better when she's in a duet with someone rather than solo. Alex's voice sounds like it could suit many female artistes since it's so standard. Standard voices can easily blend in with different voices, ranging from high to low. It's like how Alex is able to blend with Stephy's high voice down to Theresa's low voice. An Alex+Gillian duet would be great; I wonder how Alex blends with a versatile voice like Gillian's?

No kidding; when I read her response, that's what I was thinking. Is she claiming that she and her friends are just as beautiful as Gillian? I don't understand; this person just has a tendency of butting in on everything that concerns Gillian. This person is always there whenever there's a topic posted with Gillian's name in the title. It's as if she's afraid that people are going to forget Charlene or what not, so she just has to be there to plant negative thoughts in. It's so amusing to see Gillian tugging on these haters' noses through every little small pieces of information that leaks out about her. whistle.gif
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Just a random expression, but did anyone read in the News Section that Joey is inviting Alan to be her guest at her mini concert?! Wouldn't it be great if Joey could invite Gillian as well? Then Gillian could do a duet with Alan again, or maybe even a duet with Joey! Anyway, there's my wishful thinking, but I highly doubt it would happen. If anything, it'd be have to be Twins but not just Gillian, and mini concerts rarely have more than one guest. down.gif
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