QUOTE(bluehearts @ Sep 6 2006 6 54 PM) [snapback]2907664[/snapback]
I think if Gillian were to have given out her first kiss early in her career then the acceptance for her to do this kind of scene would be higher (I mean, why would more fans accept Charlene kissing in a scene than Gillian when their image is practically the same? Because Charlene already given out hers and with each movie, it gets more comfort for them. They didn't even have the second to object to it because she gave out her on-screen kiss pretty early.) but since people have gotten so used to Gillian as a pure and innocent girl, it gets harder and harder for the fans to excuse this image. It's kind of like a shock to them that Gillian would be doing more than just act out her character especially in the new serial since the "sex" scene was so unexpected and sudden.
It's as much fault towards Mani and EEG as it is on the fans but in a way if EEG or Mani have given Gillian the same flexible "restrictions" as Charlene then it wouldn't be as hard to let the fans now accept the more intimate level Gillian would be protraying in her movies...They see her as too precious to be tainted yet this kind of view just gives Mani/EEG the more reason to hold off on Gillian's movie career.

Well said. I agree. If EEG had encouraged Gillian's acting career more than this, a good portion of fans wouldn't be so strict with Gillian's onscreen kisses. Twins do practically share the same image; not only that, Isabella for instance, has only entered the acting industry not too long ago but is already projecting such a strong and bold image out there by declaring her desire to film nude if the script sought necessary and is currently twisting her image 360 degrees by portraying a lesbian pair with Rainie. And just from Mani's supportive comments about Isabella's professionalism as an actress, anyone can see that there is an obvious barrier and bias between Gillian and her acting career, not just the fans who believe that their protective shield around Gillian is doing her good but in reality, it's quite harmful as Gillian is transforming into a serious actress who needs to grab more convincing roles that would eventually involve intimate scenes.
As much as I am upset about those young fans being over-protective of Gillian, EEG is much at fault. Initially, EEG were the ones that created this
jade image, not the fans. The fans are just supporting what they know and see.
Anyway, here are a few songs from Alive (Daniel, Conroy, Terence, and Andrew). These songs were actually provided on their site in the music section. They give you an option of streaming the audio clip and downloading it too; that's what I did. But incase you didn't feel like visiting that site, here are some uploaded links.
Alive- Night's scenery
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...3BD640342515B7DAlive- Give You Love
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...FFFFDBD61A25117Alive- Adam's Choice
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...0593F1B11371625QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Sep 6 2006 7 14 PM) [snapback]2907733[/snapback]
Exactly. Switching off to different genres is a good thing, but whoever's making these decisions have got to do some research on what actually suits them. Most of the time, artistes just can't have it both ways; when they're widely accepted by the audience/public, they'll be criticized about not trying hard enough or the genre of their songs are too simple by the critiques. Then when critiques are written to say something good, most likely it isn't something that the public would like. It's like the whole thing of singing 'K Songs'. The songs released so far really aren't catchy. Albums usually do have a few songs on it that aren't exactly awesome, so hopefully those are it. It would be great if Twins, or perhaps Gillian herself, could release an album later on of which each and every song is capable of being a hit plug song; for example, Kelly Chen's recent album, 'Happy Girl', was awesome in my opinion. Each track on the album had a catchy melody and theme to it; the song, 'Blushing', I used in my recent MV is from that album. Hm, I wonder when Gillian will have the chance to release a quality album? Twins really shouldn't focus on these jumpy genres because rarely will they be that memorable. Most, if not all, classics are ballads. Well, I don't think EEG will be that bold to make an album full of jumpy songs; they have got to include at least one or two ballads.Come on, even Jill, who said she is aiming at fast songs, included a ballad in her album; may I say that the ballad is what basically saved her career? Funny Jealousy is the song that has grabbed 1st places for Jill on the charts and gave her recognition amd saved her airplays. I can almost say EEG is making a mistake if they are making an album of jumpy songs for Twins. I mean, can't Twins try singing fast songs that have a mature theme and tune? I'd want to hear how that would turn out. It's something different, and why are they limiting Twins to be cute all the time? Their fast songs usually always have to deal with the summertime.
From that Jessica interview of Gillian's, it really sounds like she wants to rip that 'Pop Idol' name off of herself; hopefully she'll succeed. Gillian has the power and talent to grab herself a good label; it just sums down to whether she'll get the chance. I hope Yesasia gets the tracklist soon; I hope I'll get excited instead of disappointed. Yep, EEG's money making tactics are scaring me; I was at Yesasia again today, and I saw Kenny's album is having a second version with two more new covers.
How exciting is that for his fans? Vincy's second version of her album is more reasonable; it's just having a bonus live CD added to the original tracks. I agree of how the fault is still geared towards the arrangements of Mani and EEG. As how the situation is for Charlene, the only way out for Gillian is EEG letting her give out a kiss before anyone finds out about it, therefore no objections can be made. Then as it has happened already, fans will eventually learn to accept it. It's like how the 'sex' scene was; when it came out, sure these people were out cursing the male lead and how Gillian should only be allowed to be intimate with Charlene (*rolls eyes* Such contradicting rules by these fans. Even though they're protective of Charlene as well, they're still okay with her being with others.) By them 'protecting' Gillian, these fans will just continue to see of how Gillian should not kiss, hug, or do anything along the lines of intimate even though one of Gillian's films, BOK, was of mature content. Then again, I just don't think EEG would do anything of the sort because as the China fans are being conservative for Gillian, EEG has this on their hands as a fact which is not likely to be changing any time soon, if ever. And I thought
Around the World With 80 Dollars was quite a low budget album, not highly invested at all, considering the quality of the songs but appears to me that Twins upcoming Cantonese album just judging from the released songs is already rubbing off as a disappointment but I could be wrong. I mean, at least in
Around the World With 80 Dollars, EEG still had to invest because it was a Mandarin album, which symbolizes more sales therefore a must on investments but EEG is beginning to neglect Twins' Cantonese albums lately. There weren't too many impressive songs in Twins' recent Cantonese albums, honestly. I believe, in Hong Kong, EEG is really relying on Twins' well established name to sell since Hong Kong fans will purchase anything regardless of quality since they were the first fanbase and there is obviously less competition in Hong Kong versus the Mandarin market so EEG believes they can still get away with low budget albums. Seriously, EEG has become quite cheap with Twins' products, it's not even funny anymore and Twins are EEG's most prized artists too.
I'm pretty certain as well that Twins will always include a few ballads in everyone of their albums; that's just their genre as much as they want to grow out of it lol.

Sadly, I enjoy listening to Twins old songs more than their current ones.

That's a reverse cycle; shouldn't I be enthusiastic about their new songs? I mean, singers are supposed to introduce something new, fresh, and interesting with each new album, which urges fans to keep supporting them, not repel them off. I love Gillian therefore Twins but I'm not going to sugarcode things; music is music and if Twins lack the songs especially when the public truly believes that they still lack the talent throughout all these years and so called improvements, I can honestly say, I'm not so sure if Twins would still stand strong. I know that Twins songs will somehow make the charts once they're released but is that really because fans enjoy the songs or is it because fans have made it a habit, an obligation to Twins to support their songs no matter what? I find that sad.
I can only wish that Gillian will successfully break away soon. I completely have faith in her singing talents ever since the beginning and her improvements have only confirmed my initial beliefs, go Gillian!

Gillian can receive a jumpstart by releasing a solo ballad in this upcoming album; please, I pray. Yeah, EEG is scaring me too. So many different covers and versions to purchase!

Anyway, EEG is sort of shooting themselves in the foot by doing that. The Hong Kong industry isn't in the right position to rip fans off like that. I mean, really, the Hong Kong music and acting industries are suffering quite badly currently, EEG shouldn't be doing that.
True. Fans are quite contradictive. If Gillian was to perform an intimate scene, she has do it with someone fans support, before, it was Edison but ever since his bad boy image came out, Edison is no longer an option but perhaps with someone like Vic Chou or Lee Hom Wang? No one will dare object to that haha!

Gillian does need to do these intimate scenes without announcing them to fans first; I bet fans would be surprised but not that appalled.
QUOTE(lilsleepyhead916 @ Sep 6 2006 7 28 PM) [snapback]2907785[/snapback]
Pictures from a recent function that Twins attended!
They wore one of the new yellow and purple outfits from the concert, and Gillian LOOKS SO PRETTY HERE!!! I LOVE
her hair!!!! I'm so glad that they finally straightened it!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...GKFFDeyhMgA.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...VxdKky4XC1K.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...kIuIAEwDweO.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...AUiF1SU2Y8J.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...32lbUa7EBbj.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/col...h36Nck5AS1J.jpg
She reminds me of the singer Jane Zhang in the second picture...
Here's the clip of this performance: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...90CC5377203A91F
The song sounds pretty weird, and somehow it seems like Twins are lipsyncing, but I can't exactly tell. =/
I guess we'll just have to anticipate on the Andy-Gillian collaboration, hopefully, it'll work out, and even though Andy is around 20 years older than her and it'll be pretty nasty, but at least the collaboration can help Gillian break through the barriers on the restrictions,and by then, EEG won't have a good reason to not let Gillian film a movie because it has kissing or intimate scenes. Thanks for sharing the screen caps; Gillian does look extremely stunning especially in the clip. Ooooo, I so love her straight hair. Gillian's current straight hair makes her look even more beautiful and dazzling than before.
Um, the clip sounds pretty live to me. They did a good job at it; thanks for sharing the clip as well. Gillian was quite cheerful and boy, Gillian lost quite a bit of weight, her facial structure is so distinct now. Yup, I guess, since Andy expressed such support towards Gillian during the incident, hopefully, he'll have more of an urge and anticipation to collaborate with Gillian.
QUOTE(Little_Purple_Bell @ Sep 6 2006 8 27 PM) [snapback]2907920[/snapback]
A few days later, Gillian attended TVB's program, 'Privacy, Dignity, Hong Kong's business'. There were hundreds of artistes there for the denouncing congress, I then told Gillian, "Daughter, look how many people are here supporting you. Don't be feeling unhappy anymore." When Gillian came up to speak about her incident up on stage and she started crying, I felt like crying when listening to her. Gillian has once said that she feels like she can't face the little children, and that is why I arranged for her to go to the function with all the children. I really hoped to see her smile with the influence of the cute little children. That day, when Gillian started playing with the children, I finally saw her reveal a smile.
Schools don't provide a course for managers. To be a successful manager, you have to depend on intelligence, experience to teach to others. Then it also sums down to what you were born with and your wit. Gillian's incident has made me learn a great lesson.
Even though I don't agree with all of Mani's decisions towards Gillian or Twins but in this situation, I'm thankful and glad that Mani was next to Gillian all the way.
My heart dropped when I read this paragraph, about Gillian unable to face the children during this incident. Gillian must felt tainted somehow. Gosh, my heart pours out to Gillian; this horrible incident has made quite a deep wound.

Thanks so much for translating.
QUOTE(Transition @ Sep 7 2006 7 14 AM) [snapback]2909726[/snapback]
I know this might be off-topic but I have noticed that fans of Asian groups such as Twins, S.H.E etc. usually are more protective of their idols...eg. S.H.E Ella is like Charlene, she has already given her first on-screen kiss long time ago so fans don't really mind when she's acting those scenes. As for Hebe and Selina even though they too have given their kisses away, fans tend to be more protective of them, because compared to the amount of times Ella has kissed her co-actors theirs are like nothing. Some fans were even so extreme that they 'scolded' a guy when they saw a pic of him putting his arm on Hebe's shoulder.
Whereas fans of other celebrities eg. Fiona, Ariel and Rainie (whose image is also cute and innocent) doesn't mind them doing kissing scenes.
That is true. I also see that as well but Gillian is someone who has never kissed onscreen before.

Have you noticed that the ones that fans aren't as protective over are the ones being promoted the most in the acting industry; therefore, there are no barriers for them and their acting abilities have a chance to develop and advance versus the ones that are stuck with the pure image like Gillian? That's so sad. That pure image is limiting Gillian's acting potential.
I absolutely love Gillian in these photos! Gah, so so pretty with straight hair.

Gillian is so mysterious.
QUOTE(lonelysoul @ Sep 6 2006 9 56 PM) [snapback]2908271[/snapback]
Thanks to
lonelysoul at the Sa thread. Anyway, Gillian and her Starbucks, yummy!

And Gillian is beginning to wear revealing clothes again, another cheer!
Anyway, felt like sharing this song with you guys; I'm currently loving this song at the moment.
Liu Yi Fei-- 一克拉的眼淚 ( Tears of a Karat or A Karat of Tears) 
This is from her new Mandarin album; why do I feel that even Yi Fei has more of a complex song than Twins? Anyway, enjoy; hopefully, you guys will love it as much as I do. I think I'm going to share songs here every week just to spice things up a bit eh?
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...9EF2A82216A0114Go Gillian~