QUOTE(asillysaint @ Oct 12 2006 7 55 PM) [snapback]3047507[/snapback]

Haha, I am on the same page. I hate it when people personally attack me when I thought the subject was still Twins? And yes, when some fans choose to reason out Gillian's solid biases but heavily complain in return when Charlene's not treated as well as they thought she should be treated, meaning, Sa always has to be the center of attention while Gillian can share a bit, just to let the audience know that they're still Twins; if not, it becomes a huge issue. Double standards, I say.

Well, it was TVB's loss for semi-freezing Michelle for that role. Perhaps Michelle could have helped with the ratings. I can so imagine Gillian taking on the role of Sung Yuk Chi, so cute yet dedicated to love. I know, EEG would never allow Gillian to receive anymore exposure in Hong Kong than this; thus, explains why both Joey and Kenny are in TVB series but Gillian can never be in one, solo, only when Sa is involved like previous projects.

Well, Raymond has shown interest in Mainland series right? Tired of TVB female artists. Hopefully, Raymond and Gillian can collaborate in a Mainland based series soon.

Go Gillian~

I like the way how you said it. Sa always has to be the center of attention while Gillian can share a bit, just to let the audience know that they're still Twins; if not, it becomes a huge issue. It just sounds so funny to me when I read it. It's so true though. Doubles standards occur so often. It seems as if some people just need to have Charlene have the same of Gillian has, partners and even biases. Anyway, we should stop talking about those others because the posts are going to get deleted, and we will again be criticized.

I think so as well. TOB really screwed up big time, considering that it was such a grand production. All of Michelle's serials had pretty decent ratings; they were all at least 30. And hey, it would've been a Raymond+Michelle pairing; I used to be obsessed with the pairing, haha. I would love for Gillian to take on a role like SYC because she is so cute and outgoing, but she is willing to do anything for Kau Chong. SYC had a lot of tear jerking scenes as well; I'm sure Gillian could handle those well. For some reason, the 'ideal' mates of the males (Lee Sau Ning & Sze Fei Huen) didn't appeal to me, I prefered the 'less perfect' ones (Sung Yuk Chi & Wan Wan). Maybe Gillian could try a character like Wan Wan as well? Wan Wan was quite unique as the devil girl. I would love to see Gillian as a semi-evil girl who still has a heart of gold underneath all her miseries. Haha, I like how we're suddenly talking about TOB.

It doesn't seem like Raymond has anyone to collaborate with in TVB anymore; he's been through the younger girls and the older girls. Who else could he go with? I don't know if I want Gillian in another serial though. Maybe if Gillian can pass on the WJ one, then I wouldn't mind her doing another serial, collaborating with Raymond. I just don't want Gillian to be spending so much time on serials. Maybe Raymond can do a film? He should totally plan a ditch on TVB by jumping to films, though it's not easy. Oh yeah, Raymond said that he doesn't have to leave the ET circle when he's 30 anymore; he has proved to his father that he has the heart to do his best, so he is allowed to make it for the stays.

QUOTE(asillysaint @ Oct 12 2006 8 19 PM) [snapback]3047588[/snapback]

Man, using Gillian as a bullet proof vest for Isabella is such a sad story for Gillian. It cannot get any sadder and more depressing than this, I believed, up until THAT! Oh my gosh, Sa's solo song has been on the radio? Okay, I feel like shooting every fan who complained about complete nonsense. That is such a huge promotion on Sa's behalf, it's unbelievable. I bet Sa fans are happy now right? Or are they going to further complain that only Sa's solo version deserves to be heard on the radio? Then how about this, why not plug Gillian's song on the radio too huh? Yeah and to hope that EEG would do Gillian and us a favor by plugging Gillian's solo song, they turn right around and plug Sa's solo instead. Is that why they created a Twins version? So who is receiving the biased treatment? This is so f*cked up for Gillian. Not only is Gillian pulled out of films, now, she's deliberately dragged out of the music industry. That's why, I say and predict that soon enough, Gillian will fade and only Sa will be left to become a solo artist. Thanks to all of those Twins fans who don't want Twins to split, now you see the picture? Twins are a music duo but now, it seems as though, Sa is jumping right ahead. What else do you guys have to say?

Go Gillian~

I guess we have known from the beginning that Gillian's solo would not be plugged, but who were we to guess that EEG will go as far as semi-dragging Gillian out of the music industry? OMG. The music industry is about the only thing left for Gillian right now, and they're taking it away from her too. I don't want Gillian to be like Nic, only appearing in serials for the most part. The point is still that Gillian didn't do anything wrong; she was never disobedient, disloyal, rude, etc., but they just have to pick on her. I want Twins to split. Gillian can fade, but don't make her maintain her career by filming stupid serials. As we've said before, if EEG isn't going to make good use of her, then please let her go.

Actually, for a more ideal plan, EEG can end their contract with Gillian, but Gillian can go sign another company. The company can help her make an ultimate comeback so that she can come and bite EEG in the derriere for making stupid decisions in the past and surpass their precious along the way, seeing as she won't have people deliberately stalling her. It always happens in Chinese history for one thing. The general thinks he's all that and looks down on the soldier, but the soldier comes back to defeat him before he had the chance to blink. Just a thought, even though Gillian wouldn't do it because she's always so loyal to EEG for no good reason. Anyway, EEG should just have the decency to end Gillian of her miseries by letting her fade while they fully pump Charlene's promotions.

Hm, since Raymond loves filming ancient series, why not an ancient film with Gillian? That would be awesome. Not too many mainstream films have concentrated on an ancient love story these days; the majority are about lust and betrayal, something EEG will never allow Gillian to portray and I probably won't either but perhaps a small peck or kiss would be fine for the romantic scenes.

Yup, EEG is officially pulling Gillian out of everything, even the music industry, the only thing left of Gillian's career. Man, this stinks big time for Gillian and us. Well, at least for Nicholas, he never had to share his limelight with anyone for all of those years and even today, he's still a solo artist, that by itself defeats the majority of biased issues Gillian faces. Just split already; enough is enough. Lester should really save the day for Gillian. Nothing seems bright for Gillian at the moment. News after news, they're all blows to the spirit.

Sa is being heavily promoted in both industries, acting and music, no doubt! I just wish there would be a better way out for Gillian, not the exit from the ET industry. But if push comes to shove, I would prefer the exit moreso than anything.

Go Gillian~

So ah Sa's solo got plugged? Wow, good for her and particularly her fans. Now, where's the disadvantage people mentioned before? It just really upsets me that lately it seems, EEG is being more obvious who they're favoring and who they want to disappear into the darkness. Have they reached the point where they just want Gillian gone? Then really, what's the point of keeping Twins? We rarely see one of them. These unhappy happenings just make me want to resort to Lester, hoping that he's really Gillian's prince charming, and will just take her away. lol, my little fantasies. ... Things just seem so gloom, like what can Gillian do and what can we do, but continue sitting here and watching this mistreatment continue?

Oh, man. Now I'm just freaking mad. I knew they were going to promote the Twins' version of Charlene's solo, but now they're also promoting THE solo version?! What is up with that?! If they're going to promote the solo version, then why don't they also promote Gillian's solo?! I don't care if people see this as offensive, but I hate Sa fans that think that Sa is being mistreated just because she had to share her song with another person. In the end, it's Sa that gets the better part of the deal. So what if she had to share her song? It's better than someone "forgetting" about it completely. Sa's solo is promoted, and Gil's solo just becomes another song on the album. Wow, it's obvious there isn't any biased against Gillian. This just sucks. First, Gillian is stopped from getting exposure in Hong Kong movies. Now, she's fading out of the music industry too?! I hate jumping to conclusions, but after reading what you guys wrote and hearing about all of this, I'm just completely ticked off.

So much of this biasedness has been going on for so long that I don't even know how to react to it, whether to be mad or sad for Gillian. It's all mixed emotions that I have currently about this issue, and DEFINITELY none of it is happiness. I mean, at first I was kind of fine that 'You're Not A Good Lover' was being promoted, because it's a good song and was sung beautifully by both Twins, but that was when I thought that they were JUST going to plug the DUET version, not the solo. Now that they have done this, and hopefully it's only 903 that's plugging it, and that they switch over to just the duet version soon, but it's just taking things even farther. At first, our only hope for Gillian was to make it big in the music industry, while Charlene goes off into the movie industry, and then they switch, but seeing how Gillian isn't even going into the music industry and taking parts in such useless serials, it's taking it too far for me. I really don't get how promoting Gillian will be doing anything wrong or bad for EEG. Promoting Gillian fully will not only gain them MUCH more money, but it can show that EEG isn't full of pretty faces and 'talentless' people. Gillian this year alone has shown so much improvement in both areas, and they just have to freeze her in both. If they never planned to promote Gillian in the first place, why sign the contract with her? They should have just let her go in the first place so that she can further her education and get a career in her dream job. Gillian's reason alone in entering the business already shows that she isn't greedy and just wants fame, she just wanted to help her family, I'm sure that she didn't even think that Twins can even get this famous.

Gosh, I SO wish that something good can happen to her, whether it is to be treated better, actually be with Lester (that's only if he really is like the way the news said he was), or just have her contract ended to where she can leave the ET or just move onto another company. I just really can't stand seeing Gillian being treated this way anymore. I truly DO want to support Twins as a whole, but seeing how EEG has been treating Gillian, I just can't do it, and can only give my full support to Gillian.

For as long as I can remember, I have been going out of my mind trying to figure out why Gillian is always out in the cold--the UNDERDOG. "Why EEG is so bias towards Gillian? I don't think I'll ever figure it out--no one will. What Little_Purple_Bell says makes sense, "EEG rejecting the decent opportunities for Gillian just ultimately proves once more that Gillian Chung has the power to grab herself a seat in the ET Industry. That is why they simply need to forbid her any opportunities to do so, even when it is not necessary. What possibly can they do when a person starts late but is speeding up so fast that she can finish first? If they can't stop her gloriously, then they will do it the dirty way. Make her trip over a rock, over a rope, set road blocks; whatever they have to do to ensure the favoured one wins in the end. In the end, it just proves that EEG FEARS Gillian Chung. They FEAR that she will surpass their beloved one, which explains why the baised treatment takes place, and the family ties is a major one as well."----> I love it how you capitalized the word 'FEAR' so true!
Who knows why EEG favours some of their artiste over the others but I'm not gonna dwell on it anymore.
The more I think about it the angier I get.

We can sit here and voice our opinion adn complain about how biased EEG is or we can even write a 6 page compliant letter to EEG about how they're mistreating Gillian but what does that do. Is it going to make things better for Gillian? Does it even help? No! No matter what drastic measure we take or do to help Gillian, EEG is going to ignore us and act as if nothing happened. I realize that now.
EEG is a company full of airheads and marons who doesn't know a thing about anything.
I know I will only be disappointed in the end.

Gillian's already fading away. I feel like soon everyone's going to say "Gillian, who?" It's breaking my heart knowing that Gillian isn't going to be in any film whatsoever and now her music career, too.
What more of this is EEG going to put Gillian through? Isn't it enough that they don't even want to promote her for anything; why do they insist on keeping her?
I hate the fact that EEG is doing this when Gillian has never once done anything to them. Gillian's always been so supported of EEG on whatever decision they make for her. She never once complain but smile happily and work extra hard to please them.
I admire Gillian for getting this far.

I can't believe why Sa's fans would even complain when they have no reason whatsoever to. She's the one thats getting all the spotlight while Gillian sit back and watch from the sideline.
Does it glorify every single one of them now that they have their wish? Don't go bashing Gillian just because in your eyes you all think Sa's being mistreated. It's all because of EEG and their inability to see what's in front of them. No one should ever feel like they're being mistreated at all. It shouldn't be the case but when it comes to EEG, I'd have to beg to differ. EEG's ignorance is getting all the fans agiated at each other and instead of taking our anger at EEG we're taking our anger out at each other.
I still feel like Sa's fans shouldn't complain at all because they're idol is out there in the center of it all while our 'Beloved Gillian' is stuck with nowhere to go. She doesn't know when she'll be let go. I mean EEG can just yank Gillian's contract within one second and she would be left out in the cold. EEG can have Gillian stay or go because we all know that's how they are. They don't care who they hurt in the process. I feel like they're so HEARTLESS. I feel so sad for Gillian. EEG is so MANIPULATIVE!

I'm ready to put my foot down and say to EEG, "Enough! Enough of this bull sh*t--just stop pretending you care when you obviously don't. You can take your pity and shove it. Your pity doesn't work for me towards Gillian whatsoever.
Why keep dreading Gillian along for the ride when Sa obviously don't need her?

9h00n6,
It shouldn't be Twins as Two but as "ONE". Isn't that the whole point of forming a group? It's because you see a unique talent between the two and decide to put them together to form one whole. If one person is going to get more spotlight than the other member then what's the point of forming Twins in the first place.
No reason to keep the other one around if she's not gonna get the same treatment equally.
Twins will not be Twins if not for Gillian, too. She played a big part in the formation of Twins. If EEG can't see that then they can just let Gillian go and see if Sa will continue to get the same amount of recogniztion and fame they so want her too. Gillian shouldn't be tormented this much. She's much to precious to deserve any of this.

Another stunt from EEG that makes me hate them more.
I wish A KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR would come and just rescue Gillian from all this--take her to a secluded island where it's peaceful just the place for Gillian.
I'm only getting more disappointments on behalf of Gillian and it's getting really irritating and boring.

Oh, Charlene's solo is getting plugged too? How lovely...For Charlene, these set-ups are never from bad to worse. The worse would be semi-good to better. While Gillian never have anything that would go smoothly, isn't that just great? Argh...I wonder if anyone could see why Gillian fans are so bitter and always complaining about everything single bias treatment now?

Would any Charlene fan be complaining how terrible it was to share the song with Gillian who was nothing more but really just a supporting voice anyways? I wouldn't really mind if Gillian's song was the duet, at least her solo wouldn't be left in the dust like it always does when there's no equal amount of promotion. The mandarin solo says it all - who's was recommended even though the song's content wasn't as attractive compared to her partner's?

They pulled Gillian out of the film industry, O.K. but now slowly out of the music industry? It's her mainstream and the only source of place where she would have left to expand on. Why are they being so mean? It's just no fair how they treat their artists. I mean not just Gillian, but like how they signed a lot of people but only chose a few to promote while the others are in the freezer already?

You know what, I think Twins might really be splitting. I mean the contract is ending somewhere in 2007 for Twins, right? They are starting to be more obvious with this whole bias thing because they are planning this split when the contract ends but before Twins split, they have to probably make Charlene have a solid stability in the entertaintment world, so they are going out of their 'low-file' ways to have Charlene ready for that. I'm not sure if I like this unless if Gillian doesn't get dragged into other miserable schemes after this split, like have to be with another new member instead of freezing her and letting her go. I mean they know Gillian would still be really popular and they probably wouldn't let her go until they could milk her dry, one of the ways is by using Gillian to bring up another singer which would be so much better than just tainting her without having profit along the way.

If that's the case, it's just sad. Gillian hadn't even have a chance before she is crushed. I want to be able to have a chance to buy a CD solely by Gillian Chung, not another future "Twins" or none at all as I speak.

something confuses me here....this whole mistreating thing eeg is doing is obviously getting into us fans...and if it is irritating us...its sure gets into gil too since she is the victim and we are just the witnesses....and here is my confusing feeling...why gil still wants and asks to stay with ah sa as Twins even though she knows eeg is biasing her? and i wont buy the answer that eeg makes her and sa to say this to fool the fans cuz i know they are not liars.... they said it from their hearts... and if gil still wants to stay as Twins even with the whole biases....shouldnt we take back our words about wanting Twins to split?....respect ah gil's decision for wat she accepts?

am i making any sense here...cuz i am so confused and i just need to know the answer to my question so i can get my mind clears and straight...thanks in advance

This bias issue is getting way out of hand. It’s so irritating me *pulls hair* so frustrated, especially when some those Charlene fans and those “so called” Twins fans either thinks there nothing wrong with it or the other way around, that Charlene is the one who is mistreated. Just how she is mistreated? When obvious all the flame and glory had gone to her. Even some of my friends who are not much of a fan of Twins notice this kind of stuff, just how come Twins’ fans haven’t? Gosh, I really hate EEG, completely failure, with no vision at all. After all those promotions, Charlene’s fan base still did not exceed Gillian’s, at least not at the moment. I would never imagine myself using the word “hate”, because it’s such a strong word. But then, after witnessing all the doings of EEG, I can’t help but to hate them.
Are there any ways or anything we could do to actually help Gillian out? Apart from sending emails of complaints to EEG (most likely will be ignored) cause its way too painful to just seat here and do nothing.


machwnor, does she even have a choice here? Yes of course no one would want to lie but there are circumstances that would just force a person to do so. There are always things that cannot be revealed, even if she did not publicised announced it, doesn’t mean she doesn’t feel it. If only Gillian had a choice to voice out her own thoughts, I’m sure she wouldn’t want to be hold back in the so call group “Twins” that clearly promotes Charlene only and always limits Gillian in everything, to make sure that she would not surpass Charlene. Just think about it this way, put yourself in Gillian’s shoe, would you like it if you were the shadow of another person. How would you feel? Would you feel comfortable with that labelled on you?

Hi,everyone! i've not been posting for months but all this while i've been keeping up on gillian's news here. i'm just too lazy. Just finished my major exam last week.

is it really true that gillian has to accept that WJ serial? and she isn't even the female lead? that just sucks... i don't want her to spend so much time filming serials but if she's in it, why not give her a better role than to just play the third wheel? it's like a neither-here-nor-there situation. i don't like this one bit. the plot sounds really ridiculous to me.

Lester? it's not like i want to make fun of his name, but i can't stop smiling... he sounds like a really nice person but character wise,i don't think they match. he can be a friend, not a lover for gillian. what i don't like is that maybe accusations can surface that gillian is a gold digger seeing how the reporters keep stressing on the 'rich' background of him. hope these rumours of them dating will fade...

charlene's solo got plugged? damn, i'm so mad right now! although when the Twins' version was plugged, i was already predicting that charlene's will come sailing behind, i'm still mad! fans who 'pit pit pot pet' about how the song was shared is a disadvantage to charlene can really shut their big fat 'chicken backside'! it is so unfair to gillian. honestly, they are just making use of gillian to promote charlene's solo. let's see if charlene were to sing her own 'composed' song all by herself without the Twins' version, her song will be plugged and gain recognition like how it is now. the same happened with the Next Stop Diva Queen, except that it wasn't that biased back then. i really HATE EEG !!!!!!!!!

i just drop by charlene's thread and there's this who said that she wasn't pointing fingers at all gillian's fans but only at some unreasonable ones who blame charlene for gillian's bias treatment. i don't want to beat around the bush and pretend that i don't blame charlene just to keep world peace, i don't give a damn. whose not happy if they are given the limelight? it's just human nature. so i don't blame charlene for that, but how could we explain about the sharing of the song? charlene composed it, charlene sang it, this song is for charlene's movie, and why is it that there's a Twins version of it? since it's all charlene's, why is she so 'nice' to share it with gillian? again, people blame it on EEG. that's just ridiculous!

those who can't see that gillian is being treated worse than charlene can really go boil their fish heads! their idol is being given the best of everything and there are some who still aren't satisfied. then how about us gillian fans? if we are as stupid as some of them out there, then all of us here must have jumped out each of our windows and die commiting suicide. we must handle this torment and torture evey single day and so does gillian. what have we done to deserve this?

no matter what goes on,i'll still support gillian and not twins! hope she gets andrew's offer eventhough she must film the WJ serial. i don't care if charlene gets to film with jay or not, it doesn't matter anymore. we are all already immune to the word INJUSTICE.

Go GILLIAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG! I am so mad right now. Charlene solo got plugged? I only thought they were only gonna plug the Duet verison. But hey, everyone know how EEG is. Seriously if they don't plug Gillian solo, even a NON-Gillian/Twins fan would know how unfair they are being to Gillian. Like what gReenBuTTerfly said, Gillian is fading away. Slowly fading away. I really don't want her to leave the ET business. I want her to stay and end her contract with EEG and after she goes to a different company, she could show EEG what they have been missing out all these years! EEG needs to get a life and learn to know what's called a group and 'Twins'

I just saved some picture for the dance thingy. And I'm kinda pissed. I don't know, but Gillian's partner look like he hand his hand like 'right' under her chest.

I think the solo got plugged because that song is composed by Charelene ?
But anyways it's not fair to Gill

I almost forgot that Twins contract will be ending this year. Now that you guys mention it, it does seem like it's a fact that they will be splitting, which I don't know what I should feel. If this is how EEG treats Gillian a few months before the split, and possibly have been treating her this way for five years now, but is getting worse, then I don't know what to expect except that EEG is going to continue abusing her for their money making purposes. We all know it's nearly impossible that they would promote her to be a solo artist when they normally don't promote her at all, so in order for her to become a successful solo artiste is just farfetched. At this point, where Gillian and fans have reached pit bottom, I don't wish for much anymore since none of our prayers are going to be heard or cared for anyway. All I ask for is that EEG will not form something such as 'Sun Twins' or whatever. Situations now are already killing Gillian and me! I am so freaking tired of coming online every time and all I ever see is good news for one Twin. This is just crazy, I'm going to be crazy. If they plan for Gillian to group up with new artistes then I am so ready and in need of punching someone.

When I got out of bed this morning, my mind immediately drifted back to EEG and Gillian. It's become a habit these days and I couldn't help but think that all Gillian fans should have boycotted the album 'Ho Hoo Tan', at least that's what I'm doing. Gillian does have a lovely solo in there, but that really doesn't make up for everything else. Plus whenever I think of that solo, it reminds me of someone else's solo and I just end up feeling pissed. I don't know how much boycotting would actually make a difference as to EEG changing their minds and looking at Gillian in a different light, but I know that it would make me feel a tiny bit better knowing that EEG is not profitting as much as they would have. And who knows, if Gillian fans are as united as I think we should be, we might actually make a difference and be able to show EEG that Gillian is an important person, Gillian does have a solid fanbase, and that Gillian does take a part in making Twins a whole.

Well, that's just my thoughts. Don't feel offended or anything if you think otherwise. I just find that whenever I have something on my mind, I just have to get it out and share it with all of you. This thread have become the place for my anger and relief.

Wow thx for sharing!! ^^
I love the 3rd and 4th pic!! Gill looks so cool with the straight hair and the glasses

autumn_snow_genesis_No_23 - At this point I don't give a d*mn about what the Charlene fans in AF. Why should I have to explain myself to relief their anger if they obviously believe whatever we say is blaming Charlene - a pointless debate. Why did I even tried in the first place. Why don't they try and relief my stress over the bias treatment everytime and not point fingers or start personally attacking me instead. This is all BS.

genna - Yup, like everyone, Gillian's issue had somewhat became one of my issues. It's quite weird how I could be feeling so connected to Gillian and it's probably because of all the things she is that I'm not. Yes, it's true I don't know her personally but the surface I could see, I'll believe that's her and I love that part of her. She's just like....like a big sister I never had as I "follow" each step of the road with her during her career so it's crazy to see Gillian being so unfairly treated.

Would Charlene's solo be considered as their third plug? Don't they only plug three songs from their album? Gillian's solo might not get plugged then. Well, I'm not sure how clear EEG needs to be before some fans would actually admit to such ill-treatment. What makes it reasonable that Charlene's solo is plugged and not Gillian's? I'm sorry, but is this what they call a group? It's like when we do a project in school - how is it being a group when one do all the work while the other sits back and still receive the same credit? And no, I don't mean Charlene isn't doing anything and receiving credit if some passerbys are wondering, just an analogy.

machwnor - After all these years, I'm sure Gillian is attached to Twins and her career. She probably wouldn't want to give up any last chances of being able to entertain if she has the chance. Also, sometimes there are things one have to do even if they are not up to it. I mean, Gillian probably had done a lot of the requests/jobs that EEG had given to Gillian even if she isn't in favor of it. I remember, for the Trainee Cupid album, she said she despised the idea of having to act cute or students anymore but she did it anyways for the album. And what do you think Gillian would be viewed as, in EEG or some of the fan's eyes(if they care, they would respect her but..), if she comes right out and says that she wants to split because she feels miserable with Charlene instead of something that EEG or some fans want to hear/her to say. I'm sure, she's probably will be on the blacklist. She loves her fans to break their heart so soon and she's pretty loyal to EEG for not ratting out on them.

All the things that happens recently does seems that EEG is ready to let Twins split and promote Charlene alone after that!! But hey, it is possible that Gillian would sign with another company if Twins really split?!
If that really happens I would be ordering champagne to celebrate!
I was actually thinking that if 5 years ago Twins was born in another company,who was not so damn biased, I'm sure it would make so much of a difference now! I couldnt imagine how far and high Gillian would've gone if they're in a different company 5yrs ago, a company who would treat Twins fairly! I'm sure Gillian would be so much more popular than now! I'm not saying that shes not popular now but much more!

If EEG really split twins up after their contract ends, I'm seriously praying really hard that Gillian would sign another contract with another music company..If that really happens I'll probably be the first one in singapore who que up and buy her solo album!

bluehearts: Yeah, sometimes I wonder why I care about Gillian so much. It's just something that I can't explain. At first, when Twins first came out, it was just a pretty face. Yes, I admit, I liked Gillian because I thought she was pretty, but that was just in the beginning. Slowly I began to idolize her and now it's gotten to the point where her issues would actually affect me.

Do they only plug three songs? I'm not sure, but it doesn't matter. Charlene's solo or not, the third plug wouldn't be Gillian's. It'd probably be something "fair" where both Twins get to participate, since they aren't solo artistes. Maybe they'd plug the theme for Let's steal Together. Who knows? I don't care anymore. Those fans who can't see the illtreatment that Gillian's receiving can just be considered blind. I don't know what more do they want. Hopefully things don't have to result in Gillian forced into a new 'Twins' group before people realise that oh something doesn't seem right. Well, actually they can think what they want, since it's obvious we're not all on the same page, it's no use arguing or feeling frustrated for something they're denying. Yep, that's what I'm telling myself to do. It'll take some time, but yeah I'll get it through my head, cause I'm tired of feeling even worse then before because of a few comments people idiotically make.

Group? What group? Hasn't it always been about just one person? Hm, I must have missed something. Yes, I totally agree to what you said and good thing you explained that you're not saying Charlene is not working hard, or else those who are skimming the thread would just totally misunderstand.

tooties: From what I heard earlier, Gillian's contract doesn't end until 2010 I believe, so even if Twins split, Gillian would be stuck in EEG for a few more years.

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Alright, I made three new manips. Don't laugh. Be nice. LOL



The SG one: I think it's ok. Isabella's forehead is too big though and her face is long, so Gillian looks a lil weird.

Kim Jung Hoon and Gillian: Aw Kim Jung Hoon is just too cute! I love him in 'Goong'. Ok, ok Gillian's face stands out too much. lol, but after I look at the original picture..... man does this look good! That girl was u g l y. Seriously I think she looks like an alien. Totally not worthy of standing by KJH. It's be sweet if KJH and Gillian gets a chance to collaborate!

KG: Er... Gillian doesn't look much like Gillian anymore. haha sorry!

Okay. Let's assume, when Gillian expressed her passion as Twins with Sa, it was from her heart, not work related. Have you ever wondered why? Perhaps because Gillian doesn't want to disappoint and disband Twins fans so she has to be the more sacrificial one out from all of us. She has decided to endure all of this biased treatment from Mani, from EEG authorities, and even from the Twins fans she sacrificed for, just so everyone can be happy. Bottom line, if you're supporting Gillian to remain as Twins, knowing that Gillian is the ultimate one suffering all of this misery and heartbreaking favoritism from EEG just so that you and other Twins fans can be happy, I'm really sorry, that just makes you and any other Twins fan out there pretty selfish. Gillian is remaining as Twins for you and every other Twins fan, not for herself, and perhaps, not even for Sa anymore either. Gillian can only take in so much before she breaks down. I admit, Twins' relationship used to be very strong, genuine, and sister-like but after these few years of constant biases, both Twins have distant. I mean, if you were Gillian, would you still feel close to someone, Sa, who you stood up for all these years, engulfing in all those biases just so Twins will remain as Twins, but in the end, has there been anything grand from Sa's part? I'm sorry once again, no. And then some Sa fans will say, 'Well, perhaps Sa sacrificed for Gillian and Twins behind cameras, we just don't know of and cannot assume?' Well, my response is, Gillian has sacrificed for Twins numerous of times publically and officially so Sa should be on the same level as well. Gillian has always been the one sacrificing and sacrificing for Twins, so much to a point where, even Twins fans themselves view those sacrifices as normal. Gillian doesn't have to put up with all of this crap you know. Gillian could have easily given up by simply moving away, not showing up to work, and having a bitter attitude resulting in a freeze, disbanding Twins. But what does Gillian do, she cries everynight but wipes away those tears, puts on her makeup, and walks out like nothing ever happened every morning.

Yes, once Gillian has decided to walk on a certain road, she tries to endure everything as much as possible so no one can be hurt in the end even if that means herself but for Sa fans to complain that Sa has disadvantages from not being in a series but in Mega films instead and not getting to perform those few times Gillian went alone in Mainland, may I say, there is no point of debating. If that Sa fan who keeps bringing up the point that Gillian fans need to apologize for blaming Sa and EEG for Gillian's 'Jade Image' cannot even understand that the reasons for Gillian's 'Jade Image' came out solely from Mani, someone who takes part in this whole biased treatment and cannot be trusted then I don't know what else to say. Mani, someone who claimed that Boy'z won't split but she was the one who did it in the end, yeah, and that's trustworthy? I will apologize, I apologize for not believing that sh*tty answer from Mani. Hopefully, you see the whole picture now?

Anyway, I have to go.

Go Gillian~

asillysaint: Ditto everything you said, Thank you for typing that up. Now I don't have to, and plus I would have just sounded confusing. Anyway, about Mani... I just don't like that woman and the things she say? I think it's all BS. Boy'z... heh funny, I remember Kenny saying that they would never split and would never go on without the other. I love Kenny with all my heart, but at first I was a little disappointed in what happened afterwards, like he said one thing but they ended up splitting anyway. Now though I understand that those words he said is just something the company wants him to say at the time and moment to ease the fans. So when Gillian and Charlene says they won't ever split... I don't know how much I can believe.

The pictures that I'm gonna upload soon is I think it was the practicing? I don't know. This is what it gave in English when I used the Google translation. "Twins winning confidence of the General Assembly to participate in dance". I saw pictures of the real thing, and Gillian was in white and a long dress. She looks really pretty there!




















Here's the real show pic. But if there's more I'll post better quailty one.

Twins fans can be neutral, if they truly are and no hidden intentions but just don't brush off the fact that Gillian is the underpromoted Twin. I'm not saying, let's all hope for something bad to happen to Sa because that's not the case at all. I do hope that Sa will go far, solo while Gillian can exit out of the ET industry after Twins disband. That is going to benefit both Twins so there, even though, I favor Gillian, even I don't have the heart to cut Sa short. What is the big deal of Twins disbanding? Sa going solo and Gillian exiting out? I'm sure, Sa fans would love it if Sa had everything to herself right? So stop trying to make it seem as if Gillian fans are the bad guys, always wishing for Twins to disband when hello? None of the Sa fans who so wish for Twins to stay together visit the 'Twins Thread' anyway. The majority of Sa fans whether it be here at Asian Fanatics or other forums who wish for Twins to remain as Twins keep stating that Twins are stronger together? So does that mean that the only reason why they still want Gillian as a part of Twins despite being treated so unfairly is for Sa's sake because you know, if Twins do disband, Sa is the only one going solo. Because perhaps without Gillian, Sa could be successful solo but not as powerful than before? This all still revolves around Sa doesn't it? We're not the bad guys here, Sa can only gain and gain with or without Twins. The only thing I ask is, leave Gillian out once and for all!

Gill#1Fan: Thanks for sharing the photos. It's okay, dancing is bound to have some touchiness, lol. Gillian looks dazzlingly beautiful. I LOVE her outfit, so lovely.

Go Gillian~

Let's just have a happy, light post from me..lolx..too much stress thinking about this whole issue!


Thanks for sharing....and Kim Jung Hoon as Yul Goon from 'Goong'? I love that guy! He's so cute. I've never thought of putting Gillian with him but hmm...they don't look to bad together. How cute! For the Steven and Gillian picture, you could have let Gillian's hair instead so the face won't look too long although, a high bun of hair...lolx...that's a new hairstyle for Gillian then!


Wow...thanks for these pictures! SO much I love both of the dresses Gillian wore. The white dress looks so elegant on Gillian! I think is has to be one of Gillian's best gowns. She doesn't wear much of these long dresses and some of the choice before wereing too flattering though Even though, I can't really see Gillian clearly, but from what I see, she would look stunning and graceful on the dance floor

michelle: Thanks so much for the pics! Oh my, Gillian looks so lovely and elegant in the white gown! It's such a beautiful dress! I can't wait to see some close ups! ^.^ lol, his hand does seem to be a little high up, it should probably be placed lower, like at her waist, but then they are dancing, it's hard to control


asillysaint: There's a Twins thread? Wow, I, myself never noticed that... anyway, yeah there are very few 'Twins' fans left, who love both of them equally. Even those who claim they are, tend to favor one of them more. That doesn't concern me though, since I could care less whether they like or dislike Gillian. What does make me angry is when there's people who don't want Twins to split no matter what. They need to think things over. Why is it that they want to keep Gillian and Charlene together, when it's probably best when they separate? And I hate it when they throw in the word 'friendship'. Like come on, if they really are such good friends, they won't stop being friends after they split. Why do fans have to worry? Is it because that they have no life or friends of their own and seeing Twins have such a strong bond make them feel good? lol, I really can't think of any other reason.


bluehearts: You're post really made me smile. =) It's true, things are getting stressful with all this discussion. I think we need a little break from it too. Ah yes! Yul Goon! I loooooved his character! So sweet and sincere. I think I like this new pairing. keke, if I ever get the time, I think I will write a fanfic on KJH and Gillian I tried keeping a bit of Gillian's hair, but then it was kind of... awkward lol... thanks for the comments!

you cant assume that gillian is going to exit the ET industry after they disband.
u dont know what gillian is thinking so you cant assume that that is what she going to do

Hm, where can I start? So much has been said since my last post.

Well, for the plug songs, they don't always only plug three songs from their CD. They plugged 5 songs from 'The Missing Piece' (One Time Not Twice, Kindergarten, Golden Dream House, A Story From texa$, Searching For Mozart). They plugged four songs from 'Around The World With 80 Dollars'. I believe the number of songs they plug depends on how long each song lasts on the chart and when they will release another album. If the songs keep falling from the charts, then they obviously have to plug more songs to keep their airplays up because Soft Hard has more airplays than Twins at the moment by a lot. Unless EEG wants Twins to lose out at the award ceremonies in order to make a reason to split Twins, then they would logically plug more songs. I don't think they will release another album this year either. Those are just the logical ways of thinking, but EEG does like to do stuff out of the logic, so we'll just see what they'll do. On a side note, I'm not too sure if 'You Are Not A Good Lover' will be able to score a lot with 903 because 903 actually tends to like out of the ordinary songs, as in they don't quite favour ballads. The solo version was played once last week, and that was it. The duet version was played twice so far this week and still counting. *shrugs* Anyway, I think the two versions of 'You Are Not A Good Lover' may be counted as one plug; you know, EEG loves to sneak it by everyone to make themselves look equal and fair.

Here's the second scoop that I have found. This person at CCT expressed that they read from a film magazine that 'Starlight Star' may be both Twins now. ( http://www.twinsfans.net/bbs/viewthread.ph...;extra=page%3D3 ) The magazine may have made a mistake on the reporting because at first, a news article has said Twins, but it was later confirmed that it is one member from Twins. But if it does turn out to be both Twins, then we all know what happened. EEG is very chessy. You guys remember that H2O commercial? H2O expressed that they wanted ONE member of Twins to be their spokesperson, so they let a poll take place to decide who was wanted. Guess who won? Gillian, and there was a scoop that she won by a lot as well. Guess what happened? They announced that both Twins are going to be the spokespeople. See what we mean by Gillian not being able to have the spotlight to herself? When Gillian is specifically chosen for something that was publicly announced or the requesting person is very stern, EEG can't completely cut Gillian out of it, but they can always play a few cards to cushion their loved one by letting her being part of it too.

A funny thing about Gillian's recent rumour: Lester's father knows who Gillian is; he expressed that Gillian is a very nice girl and was classmates with his daughter. Now I really want to know where his mother has been of not knowing Gillian?

Groups always claim that they won't split until the day that they do. We can't blame the group members, so we will blame their management company. I don't see why they have to keep people thinking otherwise. Just come right out and say it, especially in this case because there obviously are no 'pure' Twins fans left. Each one has to be a bit biased. As a side note, Mani said that Kenny and Sun Boy'z may be doing a concert together as a Boy'z 4 Year Anniversary thing. A lot of people are doubting her though because of the split of Kenny and Steven, as we speak of it.

9h00n6: Of course, we being fans cannot assume what Gillian will do, or what she will be put into doing. We are simply stating that rather than having Gillian being mistreated by EEG, we would much rather her be able to put her own life forward by exiting the ET industry. If she isn't allowed to do so, we would obviously be supporting her every move into the end.

OMY...GOSH READiNG ALL THE NEWS I feel so sorry for Gill. I hope that she shines alot...Cause Twins are splitting? And Gill is not really getting promoted..Sad...But Im really determine about Gill, Im hoping that she's gonna get somewhere.....And difintly not end in the ET industry...And she's gonna continue her career...

thanks those who answered my question....but i am still confused in my heart...this issue really affecting my mood and starting to angry me...i just wish this feeling will go away soon

OMG...if it's really featured both Twins than that's just plain stupid. We all know who's gonna get more part in the film.

Really? I never heard about the H20 commerical. That really sucks! I mean if Gillian was voted keep it only for Gill! Damn...these people got no heart! Always sharing her things...I bet if it was Charlene who won, it wouldn't have been a 'Twins' spokesperson then! 1 word...loser! (I'm not calling Charlene a loser)

What did Miriam say she and Gillian played? I never knew Miriam and Gillian were friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_-yekkRlho

i found this song was sung by Gill ( I think it is when she's in karaoke )
This song sounds like her
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CYL92BNK

I don't know what to say to this anymore. I'm getting a headache just thinking about it. I'm really pray that things for Gillian will get better soon. I'm so angry at EEG for being so bias and dumb and I'm peeved that fans don't understand each other.

I guess it all comes down a matter of opinion. Before I knew AFF, I never realized how little I heard of Gillian. I guess, I can say that it was the fans on this site that pushed me to really like Gillian over Charlene. It was just all the little arguments between TWINS fans that made me realize whose side I really stand on and as much as I would like to be a TWINS fan, I cannot place TWINS over Gillian. TWINS is great -- but Gillian deserves just a great of a spotlight as Charlene. Why can't EEG see that? Why can't some Charlene fans?

Maybe I'm overly sensitive but it just gets to a point where I really don't care what other people think. I guess, this site really pushed a lot of people towards one side. I'm not saying that it's bad or anything because I am so glad to meet Gillian fans -- I don't know what I would do without you guys to keep me updated. 'The fans are overbearing sometimes..' -- I'm a Gillian fan so I don't see as overbearing I guess...

Aish...this is sounding bad, huh? I just wish for once that everyone will see that Gillian is a great person too. Charlene's beautiful as well -- so why is it that Gillian is the one that always gets reprimand for being beautiful instead of who she is? Okay -- I want to stop saying that -- scratch that out. I'm not blaming Charlene fans -- I'm angry with EEG so I keep typing things that I don’t really mean to say. I’m sorry, my mind is jumbled. I’m angry and annoyed. Not a good time to vent my anger.

Anyways, that was way off topic.

Thanks to Michelle for sharing all those pretty pictures of Gillian. I love her outfit. I really wish to see how she dances now. I bet she's blowing everyone off -- take that! Gillian does know how to dance as well. LOLz..j/p. I want to see this because I want to see Gillian's graceful moves. Total excitement!!

On a side note -- Thanks to everyone who comment on my EG icons. I was so happy that I finally got them done. When I have time, I will definitely have to make more.


--MM

I was caught up in my KJHxGillian craze, so I made these two posters. Boy did it take up some of my time. lol, don't ask me why it took me so long, I don't know either. Hah. Maybe it was cause I was in a crappy mood.



Hm, is it just me or do KJH and Gillian look cute together? I swear if I ever find the time and inspiration, I'm gonna write a KJHxGillian story. Just you wait. lol

About Gillian, EEG, and all that stuff... I think I'll stop for tonight. Yeah, I need some rest. Let's hope there will be good news tomorrow when I get up =)

Oops, almost forgot to credit. Welp here goes.
Credits to: inxsomiax, dafont, TC, soompi, google

wow..I love that second poster!!
They both sure looks cute together!!

credits: gillian's gallery

Here's 3 more pictures of the dance.







All credits to TF.net

Thanks for the link. The song Gillian sang is great.

And Gill#1Fan thanks for the lovely pic of Gillian in the white dress. and did Gillian win?

Here is the link to their performence at CCTV function thingy
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B5me1s4Hx14

I don't know if she won or not.

Thanks for the clip Haven't heard them sing that song live without dancing for a long time. It sounded pretty nice live! Was pretty pissed that one a little people was scream "Ah Gui/Jiao" but as long as theres fans over the world supporting her then I'm good!

QUOTE(megazerox @ Oct 14 2006 10 30 AM) [snapback]3053184[/snapback]

Here is a clip of the dancing contest thing.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QYv76YSRjwE

Thanks for sharing this. I love Gillian's dress -- but for some reason, I couldn't help but laugh at the part where the guy kept swing Gillian. Couldn't he had done something different. I wonder if Gillian was really dizzy after all that. ^__^'

tooties: keke thanks! Yep I think they look cute together too =)

michelle: wowwie beautiful pics of Gillian! very flexable huh? if the guy was better looking, that'd be a perfect picture. lol

megazerox: Thanks for clip!! Gillian looked so beautiful and that dance... gosh. It's amazing! I wish we can see the whole dance.

Gillian received 3rd place in the dancing contest. Regardless, she improved on her dancing a lot, judging from the photos and little clips, so we shouldn't worry too much about her placing. At least the media recognized her for her dancing. Honestly, dancing is the area that Gillian needed most work on, but we can see that she has shown us her improvements in dancing.

Gillian looks absolutely graceful from the photos. Thank you for sharing the clip of her dancing. Her answers were so cute; hey, she actually spoke a lot this time.

megazerox: Thx so much for the clip!! ^^



I actually find there was more ppl screaming Gui/Jiao there xD!! Anw they are all funny when they pronounced the name wrongly >_> They actually scream..(Charlion!! Gilliong!!) >_>!

Anw Gillian looks so pretty and flexible there!! Luv her
Its so funny when she says " Im getting older and older and I'm afraid doing these kind of movements!" xD!
Gill is soo cute!! Luv her!!

omg i think Charlene won 1st place on the dancing contest. i cant believe it. Gillian works hard really hard also she doesnt deserve only a 3rd place. i cant believe this

yup its tru charlene got 1st place whilst gill only got 3rd...man thats not fair she worked so hard for it aswell...what a shame!

It's okay. It only matters that Gillian did her best in this competition, and she definitely improved her skills. Look on the bright side, the media has been reporting on her Waltz ever since the competition happened, so she got noticed. The funny thing is that everyone who won is from EEG. Charlene got 1st, William got 2nd, and Gillian got 3rd.

Anyway, I think it would have been better on Gillian's behalf if she performed later on during the competition. She was the first one to perform, and judges usually don't give too high of marks to the first person because they're thinking that there's still so many people left, and there could be better performances later on. Gillian got 29 points from the judges, and Charlene got 29.3, so I'm guessing William either got 29.2 or 29.1. Anyway, I can't wait until it airs, and we can see Gillian's whole dance!

it's OK it only the first round 3rd is pretty good.

omg issit true Charlene won the first place?! Where you get that information from? if this is true its really a pity that Gill lost!! She danced so well!

Anw Gill once again denied the rumour of her and Lester Lam..She said that "We're impossible."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6TebdTfv8U...ted&search=

so there are more rounds? i know gillian's dancing improved but i just cant stand how charlene always gets the good things. why is charlene always the lucky one? WHY?????? i want to see gillian's whole dance also. i'm sure she did great.

QUOTE(babivicky @ Oct 14 2006 1 55 PM) [snapback]3053860[/snapback]

so there are more rounds? i know gillian's dancing improved but i just cant stand how charlene always gets the good things. why is charlene always the lucky one? WHY?????? i want to see gillian's whole dance also. i'm sure she did great.

From my understanding, there are more rounds. During this round, they have eliminated two contestants, so there should be more to come. We can't blame much of it on luck; the only thing about luck we can blame it on is Gillian had to perform first. I'm sure Charlene did well dancing as well, and I heard she did some impressive stunts as well. I saw a photo of her doing a cartwheel.

Even though Gillian took third, it doesn't mean that she wasn't good, as you can see, Charlene only won by .3 points, so they both did really well, and I myself and pretty surprised that Gillian did such moves while dancing, and she looked REALLY proffesional. When I first heard Charlene winning, I was thinking that maybe it was because Gillian did the waltz (I think it was this), so the moves are more elegant and hard to add in hard-to-do moves, but after watching the clip and hearing how much Charlene won by, it doesn't really matter that Charlene won or not, but the fact that Gillian improved tremedously and showed others that she can dance, even with these dangerous stunts.

HAHA! guess what people, me and Ah Giu have the same birth date (Jan 21)!!!! yay im so proud! I sound like an obsessor.

Third is alright, and besides it was only by .3 I'm just really happy to know that Gillian did her best and that people notice the hard work she put in. From the clip and pictures, I think Gillian looked amazing and did great, which is really all that matters. =)