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Gill#1Fan
I just want to say everything here said by "babiigurl" is me because that is my sister user and now I made my own
rumikochan
About the issue on Charlene kissing Andy. I've never thought much about Charlene actions but lately, I felt that she's trying really hard to get attention. I felt so bad for Gillian bc Charlene had put her in such an akward position without any consideration of her feeling. Maybe Charlene is really the type to do things without thinking, I dunno. No offense, I used to like her but starting to have some doubts. Not sure if she's actually cute or acting cute anymore. Anyways, I've always been more supportive of Gillian and will continue to be!
Gill#1Fan
QUOTE (Nikki @ Feb 11 2006 3 09 PM) *
About the issue on Charlene kissing Andy. I've never thought much about Charlene actions but lately, I felt that she's trying really hard to get attention. No offense, I used to like her but starting to have some doubts. Not sure if she's actually cute or acting cute anymore. Anyways, I've always been more supportive of Gillian and will continue to be!


yeah i realized that too, actually i realized that a long time ago. is it becaz she feel like shes not getting enough attention already that she has attention. she coud almost compare her with joey attentions.. gillian attention is like fadin...
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE (babiigurl @ Feb 11 2006 5 50 PM) *
i never heard about the gillian and yumiko thing. can someone tell me about it?

There was just this one time of where Gillian and Yumiko went to hang out at night after work, and Mani got mad at Gillian after she found out. Gillian had to write a thousand word essay to Mani to apologize, then Mani thought that she did have the heart to ask for forgiveness, so she accepted her apology. I think that's absolutely ridiculous! Gillian and Yumiko are really good of friends! They knew each other before they came into the showbiz, and they were even roommates back then in the EEG domintory! Both of them have lives after work! Being a singer is just a career like any other job!


QUOTE (Nikki @ Feb 11 2006 9 09 PM) *
About the issue on Charlene kissing Andy. I've never thought much about Charlene actions but lately, I felt that she's trying really hard to get attention. I felt so bad for Gillian bc Charlene had put her in such an akward position without any consideration of her feeling. Maybe Charlene is really the type to do things without thinking, I dunno. No offense, I used to like her but starting to have some doubts. Not sure if she's actually cute or acting cute anymore. Anyways, I've always been more supportive of Gillian and will continue to be!

I've recently noticed that Charlene likes getting the attention too. Like at the JSG Awards Ceremony, Eric Tsang asked Ronald Cheng if he'd like to thank any other singer behind him when he got the Best Song Of The Year, the camera shot on Charlene as Ronald turned back to bow at all the other singers behind him, and Charlene pounced and started hiding behind Gillian. What the heck was up with that? I thought she denied the rumours with Ronald? So doesn't that hiding around make it seem all fishy and of course, causes the media to go on about it? It seemed like Gillian was surprised too; she was kinda glancing at what Charlene was doing, and as the camera had its focus there, she could only give a smile and wave to the camera to break off the awkward moment.

QUOTE (kawaiilala @ Feb 11 2006 9 26 PM) *
Everyone keeps using the "Oh, Sa can do kissing scenes and not Gillian because Sa already lost her onscreen kiss and bed scene in "Heroes In Love" even before Twins was officially formed! Well, my statement to that is: Then perhaps EEG/Mani shouldn't have included Sa in Twins knowing that Twins was supposed to carry a pure cute image! EEG/Mani are completely contradicting themselves by allowing Sa to kiss whoever whenever while stalling Gillian's career by restricting kissing scenes.

Well, A Chinese Tall Story was an association of EEG that's why the majority of EEG artists starred in that film but HAHA! 1.gif the movie was such a flop! That's why heavy heavy promotions were invested in this movie.

As for more duets of KG, it all depends how well HK accepts the duet and MV.

Well, my logic is: it is important that the Gillian thread here is growing quite rapidly showing that Gillian has a lot of support but the thing is: the fans who directly impact Gillian's status are the fans on the Chinese boards and the HK fans! We North American fans can contribute too but all Gillian Fans need to gather together to strengthen our support! Sorry to say, Sa may have less fans than Gillian in general terms but Sa Fans tend to be stronger and more out spoken! I mean, just observe the Chinese Forums (since they matter most) Gillian fans can't even mention the bias issues or unfair treatment or else the topic either gets deleted or stampede by Sa fans! And what do Gillian Fans do next, they just simply brush it off like nothing happened. That's why Gillian has been enduring this bias treatment for 5-6 years! Gillian Fans are quantity but lack quality of support!

Some Gillian Fans are not understanding the true picture clearly behind the reason why Gillian cannot kiss onscreen. Hm, I'm still a bit stuck though because my Chinese is so limited don't know how I'm going to answer Sa Fan's complaints against my entries! GR! But nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to try.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!!

It could that at first when Twins formed, EEG/Mani didn't have these restrictions on Gillian. Yet later on, they realized that Gillian's popularity is racing ahead of Charlene's despite the promotion biases, so they've had to come up with a lame excuse to plant restrictions on Gillian, so she can't go any further with her movie roles; therefore, not enough exposure on the theatre screen. The kissing factor, it's obviously not Gillian's idea not to kiss, but EEG's. I hate it when some people say it's because Gillian doesn't want to kiss. She's an actress; she would do it if the director requested her to and if her company didn't stand in her way. It's not like Gillian's never kissed anyone in her life. Gillian even said in a new article; she's 25 years old already, and should be allowed to kiss in movies. I've also noticed that Gillian is rarely in any of the movies where almost all the EEG artists are in. She wasn't in New Police Story nor A Chinese Tall Story; they don't have to be that mean to her. They've left her completely out of it. I could see how Joey's not in it, since she doesn't base her career on movies, but rather on singing; Twins, on the other hand, base it on both. A Chinese Tall Story wasn't very good though; many people went in seeing the movie was because of the prequels by Stephen Chow, but they've found that they were ripped off after seeing it because they were just being fed a bunch of unnecessary computer graphics and effects.

Good news! Conscience Discovery by KG has recently been plugged on the radio! So it now offically has the chance to compete on the song charts!! Woohoo! dance.gif

Charlene fans are always more outspoken than Gillian fans at the chinese forums. Most Gillian fans just withhold their disagreements because they usually don't want to start stuff up. Charlene fans don't really care that much about what the consequences are, and they fuss over anything that Gillian does without Charlene. Gillian fans rarely fuss over things about Charlene. Perhaps if they do, they'll just get stampeded over by Charlene fans unless they all team up and win over with quantity. That's another factor to why Charlene seems more popular, her fans, being like her, blabs whatever they can think of, regardless of what it could lead to, whereas Gillian fans, being like her as well, think twice before they say stuff and is considerate on what's gonna happen afterwards. See how an idol can influence a fan?

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!
asillysaint
QUOTE (Little_Purple_Bell @ Feb 11 2006 11 07 PM) *
Good news! Conscience Discovery by KG has recently been plugged on the radio! So it now offically has the chance to compete on the song charts!! Woohoo! dance.gif

Charlene fans are always more outspoken than Gillian fans at the chinese forums. Most Gillian fans just withhold their disagreements because they usually don't want to start stuff up. Charlene fans don't really care that much about what the consequences are, and they fuss over anything that Gillian does without Charlene. Gillian fans rarely fuss over things about Charlene. Perhaps if they do, they'll just get stampeded over by Charlene fans unless they all team up and win over with quantity. That's another factor to why Charlene seems more popular, her fans, being like her, blabs whatever they can think of, regardless of what it could lead to, whereas Gillian fans, being like her as well, think twice before they say stuff and is considerate on what's gonna happen afterwards. See how an idol can influence a fan?

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!

KG Duet! dance.gif infatuated.gif Hopefully, the Duet will increase in popularity and demand especially when Valentine's Day is just around the corner. happy.gif'

Well, I think that Gillian Fans should learn how to be more assertive because being courteous and nice to loud at times inconsiderate Sa fans won't do Gillian any good. I rather stir things up a bit with debates rather than get taken advantage of and stepped all over on. I mean, Gillian Fans are called "Gillian Fans" for some reason right?? Then shouldn't they be able to defend the meaning of their name and their admired individual, Gillian?? What use does it make to be a Gillian Fan or even a Twins fan (Twins, since those fans claim to be neutral so both Twins have to be treated fairly.) if those fans aren't even willing to discuss or address the unfair issues Gillian is enduring? Then what are fans for if they're going to silently watch Gillian get chewed!!!!

There are several ways of mentioning sensitive things without creating a negative feedback but my impression is: Gillian Fans aren't serious enough or they are diluted by Sa Fans' influences. Man, if I only resided in HK or knew how to write Chinese better. 1.gif

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!!
Transition
QUOTE (xlai-wong-baox @ Feb 11 2006 2 51 PM) *
Lookie here:



I wonder why she did it? It's a strange thing to do in public.

I think the kiss was totally unnecessary and weird. Can't believe some fans thought it looked "cute".
I usually have nothing against Charlene, but as Nikki said, this time she had really put Gillian in an akward position...I mean what should Gillian say when Andy asked her if she wanted one too. She couldn't have said no, could she? And neither yes, as she isn't even allowed to kiss for a movie...not to talk about in public.

QUOTE (kawaiilala @ Feb 11 2006 9 26 PM) *
Some Gillian Fans are not understanding the true picture clearly behind the reason why Gillian cannot kiss onscreen. Hm, I'm still a bit stuck though because my Chinese is so limited don't know how I'm going to answer Sa Fan's complaints against my entries! GR! But nonetheless, it doesn't hurt to try.

EEG has brainwashed these Twins fans that Gillian can't kiss but Sa can! BLEH--

Mani is just getting on my last nerve with her unfair treatment! Man, where is this old lady residing at here in the US (US correct?) I really want to track her down and egg her! Haha! Yes, when I get really upset...primitive characteristics emerge! gun2.gif

Sa is just trying to act cute everytime she's near a camera! Gosh- I don't find it cute at all when Sa slurs her words and does this kiddish voice when she speaks when we all know that Sa has the deeper voice of the two, that is irritating!

Sa is just acting cute? Why? Because she exhibits a mature personality on candid photos and around Ronald!

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!!

I agree, some Gillian fans don't seem to know about those restrictions she has...as Cathy W mentioned some even think Gillian herself doesn't want to kiss anyone on-screen, because she's shy and reserved etc.
But I think many Twins fans already knew about the biasness along time ago, but they just didn't/doesn't seem to care much about it. In fact it's seems like it's okay for them as long as Gillian and Charlene stays as a group...eg. when someone pointed out how Charlene has more lines than Gillian in 'Starlight amusement park'...I don't really remember exactly what they said...but I remember they didn't think it was a big deal or something. Plus when somebody was complaining how Charlene has more movies than Gillian and gets more promotions...a Charlene fan countered back and said that Gillian are on more magazine covers and stuffs...and that it equals out. That is just bs. Who was it that appeared in every magazine during october-december!?
c a t h y
Look at Gillian:



All she could do was stand and watch!
Sure enough, Charlene made most of the headlines today.
When Andy asked whether or not Gillian wanted a kiss too, Gillian said that she hadn't given away her first on-screen kiss yet and in an interview afterwards, she said that she would kiss Andy in a movie...
asillysaint
QUOTE (CathyW @ Feb 12 2006 12 14 AM) *
Look at Gillian:



All she could do was stand and watch!
Sure enough, Charlene made most of the headlines today.
When Andy asked whether or not Gillian wanted a kiss too, Gillian said that she hadn't given away her first on-screen kiss yet and in an interview afterwards, she said that she would kiss Andy in a movie...

Aw, poor Gillian; observe how empty she looks! Sa! smilie.GIF I don't even know what to say anymore.

I already registered with several Twins Forums but can't post until an hour later so now I'm just gathering my thoughts so when I actually do post my two cents about every issue regarding Gillian in simple terms, it'll turn out decent and hopefully don't offend any Sa Fans. Wonder how it's going to end up like because I was just surfing through these forums and no one seems to mind about these bias issues at all! But no matter what whether my post/thread gets deleted and I get banned or bashed, I don't care....I have to carry my points across somehow and at least I tried. I'm just trying to raise an awarness that Gillian isn't being treated fairly quite badly actually...that's all.
QUOTE (Transition @ Feb 11 2006 11 35 PM) *
But I think many Twins fans already knew about the biasness along time ago, but they just didn't/doesn't seem to care much about it. In fact it's seems like it's okay for them as long as Gillian and Charlene stays as a group...eg.

That is selfish. Watching Gillian endure unfair treatment just so Twins can remain as Twins then why even call them Twins or form that duo if one is being taken advantage of (Gillian) while the other one seems to glow with glee (Sa). Now I'm beginning to really doubt the so called relationship Gillian and Sa share. I'm pretty sure Sa knows better than we do what really goes on behind cameras but yet Sa acts so indifferent. How can Sa still hug, kiss, and smile at Gillian when she knows that in a way she is contributing to the bias treatment? How? Sa isn't doing anything to prevent such wrong doings towards Gillian but instead continues to accept the promotions leaving Gillian behind. And yet...Gillian still defends Sa whenever she can! I bet Gillian wouldn't let this happen to Sa or would at least intervene somehow. And if Sa was the one being treated poorly, I even though being a Gillian Supporter would not support the bias treatment BUT would defend Sa regardless of who I favor more. It's not really about who we adore more out of the two now, it's more of what's right and wrong!

That's probably another reason as to why the HK industry has hit rock bottom because they're obviously promoting and supporting for the worst reasons!! My opinion, the Korean Wave has hit Asia so hard and Why?? Because Korean Fans support their idols 100% by gathering every international fanclub to distribute albums. Korean fans defend every negative bias issue their idol comes across. I'm not stating that Korean Fans are better, NO! All I'm trying to say is: their support is so much more serious and passionate than HK Fans these days. I mean, if my posts in other forums get deleted because I'm stating the truth Twins fans don't want to admit then that just shows how ignorant these fans are. The truth is too evident that it can no longer be avoided! Why still push Twins together when one is obviously not happy being chewed out all the time??!!

Hurgh~ Oh well! I'll try my best.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!
a_gill
i think if Gill don't have any kissing scene , Sa don't do anything ( kissing , hugging ,....)when Gill was standing near Sa
a_gill
anyone know why EGG don't want Gill to have any kissing ? i still don't know now
xlai-wong-baox
Why Charlene?!? And you were beginning to really grow on me. This incident with Andy Lau has really made me think that she is just out to get publicity and attention. She MUST have known it would cause media news. Totally embarrassed Gillian and put her in the most awkward position. She might have thought it was funny, but it wasn't. Being in All About Love together is not an excuse to be kissing him in public like that. She can just do whatever she feels like and no one cares. Whereas Gillian has boundaries that EEG have drawn that she is not allowed to cross.
asillysaint
QUOTE (xlai-wong-baox @ Feb 12 2006 3 11 AM) *
Why Charlene?!? And you were beginning to really grow on me. This incident with Andy Lau has really made me think that she is just out to get publicity and attention. She MUST have known it would cause media news. Totally embarrassed Gillian and put her in the most awkward position. She might have thought it was funny, but it wasn't. Being in All About Love together is not an excuse to be kissing him in public like that. She can just do whatever she feels like and no one cares. Whereas Gillian has boundaries that EEG have drawn that she is not allowed to cross.

I was beginning to like Sa too after watching A Chinese Tall Story (even though the film was stupid but her character was cute) but this incident really drew the line. Sa is not dumb; she has been in the ET industry for a while now, knows the clean image Twins' must abide by, and definitely knows that kissing Andy would gain attention! Sa always uses her fake cute and bubbly personality to make headlines by making it seem as if that kiss and several of her previous actions were cute jokes but instead they're all for attention. I guess, Sa couldn't stand Gillian being in the spotlight so decided to commit such a stunt to stir up news especially with Andy, someone who is also famous, since Gillian has been featured in quite a few news articles and interviews!

I extremely feel sorry for Gillian. Her face immediately turned colorless, ran out of blood...she was so shocked and yes, quite embarrassed.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!
xlai-wong-baox
The same goes for some Charlene fans. They think that they can get away with anything. They say what they want, when they want and no one ever stands up and says no.

I do like Charlene, but I just disagree with what she did this time. I don't know what she was thinking, but I have a pretty good idea why she did it. I hope she gets a beating from EEG, since it was a bad move. But then again, EEG love her so they will probably let her off.
soiia
it annoys me so bad to se the pic of charlene, gillian and andy ...I hate eeg and MAni!
Gill#1Fan
looking at the image xlai-wong-baox posted at TC chat,info gossip and fun with charlene getting ready to kiss andy makes me sick! just looking at her makes me sick now! im seriously start to hate/dislike her! goodness trying to act cute when she isnt

QUOTE (xlai-wong-baox @ Feb 11 2006 8 49 PM) *
The same goes for some Charlene fans. They think that they can get away with anything. They say what they want, when they want and no one ever stands up and says no.


i agree! its like they could bully gillian fans all they want! it dont work like that! its time for us to stand up for GILLIAN and our self and say something! i dont care wht charlene fans say or think. and charlene fans arent the boss of us!!!!! they cant do whtever they want to do!
Little_Purple_Bell
Charlene is seeking for attention. Could she actually be jealous of Gillian? Since Gillian's popularity is starting to become obvious now? Everyone of EEG probably knows that Gillian's popularity > Charlene's popularity, but Charlene probably didn't mind before because she looked more popular appearance-wise by the help of EEG, now the situation is getting obvious.

Charlene is so not considerate of Gillian. She knows that Gillian can't kiss anyone, but she dives right onto Andy's lips in public! What was Gillian supposed to answer when Andy said that it was her turn?! It was a good thing that Andy broke the awkward moment by just ending it by giving Gillian a hug. EEG will probably let Charlene off the hook though. I wish EEG would just come to their senses that they can't let Charlene go on with doing anything she wants, but fat chance that'll happen any time soon or even at all. Why can't Charlene be a more generous person and be happy for Gillian like Gillian has done for her? I think we should write complaints to EEG even though it probably won't help this in any way, but I want to do something about it! I wish I was in HK!
bluehearts
Ugh...I'm so disappointed at myself. I can't even read chinese!! Can't go into chinese forums and speak up for Gillian at all. Even in the English Twins forums, Gillian fans are not doing much...we are just too polite and considerate and if we do argue/debate...there will not just be one Charlene fan coming after you but a bunch of them starts attacking...it makes it seem like we are the bad people for trying to defend Gillian!!

I never really hated or liked Charlene before and I'm trying to like Charlene since she's in a group with Gillian but now, I'm not sure I can. Her actions are making me feel like hating her since she is making Gillian in such a awkward situation!! In the photo, I felt so bad for Gillian..just look at her expression!! I can't believe she would put Gillian in a position like that!!
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE (twinsrock3000 @ Feb 12 2006 4 08 AM) *
I want to complain a whole ton!

whats their email address? lol EEG's

Here:
eeg_inquiry@eegmusic.com

This might not help, but I'm going to write to EEG about this. We all should, then we at least tried to do something about it. We should discuss this at chinese forums too, then the Gillian fans there could know that there's other people thinking the same way and won't be afraid to speak up when there are others backing them up.
Gill#1Fan
Done! finished. dont think they'll read but oh well.

bluehearts dont blame yourself because i cant read chinese either.

at TC a girl name Alexa, a char fan is talking. i was replying and saying stuff and now sooner or later its goin to turn into a arguement and i dont really care. all they can do is ban you and sign up for another account? so yeah.

someone posted this:

Andy’s music showcase was held last night, attracted 8000+ fans to attend and the performing guests included Twins. Andy’s parents were there to support too. The peak of the showcase was at the encore part, Twins wore Andy’s fanclub tee and appear as fans. Andy then presented two membership cards to them, at this moment Charlene asked: “Is it that I can kiss you after joining the fanclub?” Andy laughed: “If you dare, I will let you kiss now!” Charlene then replied: “Kiss then!” All of them couldn’t react when Charlene went forward and kiss Andy right on the lips, and the whole crowd cheered loudly. After the kiss, she then laughed saying: “Oh no! I will be beaten up!” Andy then looked at Gillian and said: “Your turn.” Gillian then didn’t move and say she has not presented her first screen kiss yet.

After the event, Gillian said if Andy has a movie for her, he can kiss as he like! Charlene then replies to if she’s afraid of Andy’s fans: “I am scared, but he asked me to!” She then explained: “Actually I wanted to peck him on the cheek, but who knows …haha! In fact, I had kissed him before la! Doesn’t matter!” Gillian then said about she was too shy to kiss him on stage.

A reporter then asked where Charlene went during the Chinese New Year, was it with Ronald to the States. She immediately says she will not reply on it. Reporter then joke about asking her to show her passport to prove her innocence. She then said: “Last year I showed my passport, this year ask me to show again, does that mean I must show my passport to you every year? I had decided not to response to this anymore.”

credits: twinsfans.net

so charlene was the one who made the move first. she said "kiss then" and no one cud react to it. leaving gillian with nothing to say!


more conscience discovery pic. throw the bad mood away and bring so happy one here



rumikochan
Okay. I actually wrote a long letter to EEG this time. I've never been so upsetting about Twin's news but I felt that Charlene had gone too far. How could she embrassed Gillian like that? gun2.gif I don't even care if Charlene's fan coming after me anymore. Whatever. It's not like I meant to bash her, I am just stating a fact!! About that Alexa girl. She claimed to love 'Gillian to bits' but yet whenever it comes to Charlene, she would not spare a moment to put down Gillian imo. I remembered once she said that when it comes to singing, Gillian is not even in Charlene's league, there's not comparison, which totally got me mad. What a joke!! lol. Okay, I should really stop here before I make Gillian thread looks like a Charlene bashing thread.

I really hope that EEG will read atleast one of our letter and make some changes!!!
asillysaint
QUOTE (twinsrock3000 @ Feb 12 2006 5 23 AM) *
Done! finished. dont think they'll read but oh well.

bluehearts dont blame yourself because i cant read chinese either.

at TC a girl name Alexa, a char fan is talking. i was replying and saying stuff and now sooner or later its goin to turn into a arguement and i dont really care. all they can do is ban you and sign up for another account? so yeah.

someone posted this:

Andy’s music showcase was held last night, attracted 8000+ fans to attend and the performing guests included Twins. Andy’s parents were there to support too. The peak of the showcase was at the encore part, Twins wore Andy’s fanclub tee and appear as fans. Andy then presented two membership cards to them, at this moment Charlene asked: “Is it that I can kiss you after joining the fanclub?” Andy laughed: “If you dare, I will let you kiss now!” Charlene then replied: “Kiss then!” All of them couldn’t react when Charlene went forward and kiss Andy right on the lips, and the whole crowd cheered loudly. After the kiss, she then laughed saying: “Oh no! I will be beaten up!” Andy then looked at Gillian and said: “Your turn.” Gillian then didn’t move and say she has not presented her first screen kiss yet.

After the event, Gillian said if Andy has a movie for her, he can kiss as he like! Charlene then replies to if she’s afraid of Andy’s fans: “I am scared, but he asked me to!” She then explained: “Actually I wanted to peck him on the cheek, but who knows …haha! In fact, I had kissed him before la! Doesn’t matter!” Gillian then said about she was too shy to kiss him on stage.

A reporter then asked where Charlene went during the Chinese New Year, was it with Ronald to the States. She immediately says she will not reply on it. Reporter then joke about asking her to show her passport to prove her innocence. She then said: “Last year I showed my passport, this year ask me to show again, does that mean I must show my passport to you every year? I had decided not to response to this anymore.”

credits: twinsfans.net

so charlene was the one who made the move first. she said "kiss then" and no one cud react to it. leaving gillian with nothing to say!
more conscience discovery pic. throw the bad mood away and bring so happy one here

http://i1.tinypic.com/nmyd61.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/nmyd87.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/nmyejk.jpg

BOO! The audience is a bunch of blind old folks! smilie.GIF Sounds like Sa is abnoxiously flirting way too much! It's a Fanclub, not a kissing booth!! Sa has become a bit too sexual lately, she really needs to get a reality slap! I mean, Sa acts super desperate for a kiss from Andy and she's a girl?? Not only did Sa break the Twins rules by kissing outside of filming boundaries, she INITIATED the kiss??!! That is a bit too bold? How can Sa tease and flirt with Andy nonstop like that, doesn't she have any shame?? She should respect him, Gillian, and most importantly herself and should not offer herself openly like that even if she thought it was a joke!! Should I be disgusted or upset??

Thanks for the update of pictures! KG--Hopefully, they KISS LIVE ONSTAGE TOO to balance out!! happy.gif'

QUOTE (Nikki @ Feb 12 2006 5 44 AM) *
Okay. I actually wrote a long letter to EEG this time. I've never been so upsetting about Twin's news but I felt that Charlene had gone too far. How could she embrassed Gillian like that? gun2.gif I don't even care if Charlene's fan coming after me anymore. Whatever. It's not like I meant to bash her, I am just stating a fact!! About that Alexa girl. She claimed to love 'Gillian to bits' but yet whenever it comes to Charlene, she would not spare a moment to put down Gillian imo. I remembered once she said that when it comes to singing, Gillian is not even in Charlene's league, there's not comparison, which totally got me mad. What a joke!! lol. Okay, I should really stop here before I make Gillian thread looks like a Charlene bashing thread.

I really hope that EEG will read atleast one of our letter and make some changes!!!

Seriously, if I resided in HK, I would already be out there in front of EEG headquarters marching in a protest!!!

Hopefully, Gillian recovered from that shock and chill!

Little_Purple_Bell and xlai-wong-bao:What are the current news regarding the Andy and Sa kiss?

And don't worry bluehearts, I'll defend Gillian to the best of my ability on the Chinese Boards if they don't delete my posts and actually understand what I'm stating since I also have limited Chinese.


GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!
Little_Purple_Bell
Those Conscience Discovery photos are so cute!! Thank you twinsrock3000! The second photo is one that we haven't seen; I wonder if it's a scene in the MV or a behind the scene photo since KG are looking into the camera?
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE (kawaiilala @ Feb 12 2006 5 07 AM) *
Little_Purple_Bell and xlai-wong-bao:What are the current news regarding the Andy and Sa kiss?

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!

There isn't anything much on that kiss with Andy and Charlene. No one, or at least there is no news report, complaining about it. She made a lot of headlines if that's what you mean. Everyone of them were made with "Charlene kissing Andy" or something along those lines. It was basically reported like it was actually NORMAL, which is so not right in any way. Charlene actually did it by surprise too by the looks of things; I don't think either of Andy or Gillian expected that she actually meant it. What's up with "missing his cheeks so catching his lips instead"? That's so dumb.

Haha, Andy said that he WILL find some chance to kiss Gillian somehow! I hope he invites Gillian to be a female lead in one of his movies, then maybe Gillian can have the chance to sense how nice it is to be promoted by the cast of the movie, just like someone who always had.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!
LayZie
i cant picture andy lau kissing gill !! [ tat weird to mee ] newai im dyin to see da final touch on kenny new mv wit gill. frum all da pic i seem.. it must look sweet and relationshiply! but i rather hab edison as gill`s leading man, but its okie kenny can do biggrin.gif hehHEheh
Gill#1Fan
QUOTE (LayZie @ Feb 11 2006 11 29 PM) *
i cant picture andy lau kissing gill !! [ tat weird to mee ] newai im dyin to see da final touch on kenny new mv wit gill. frum all da pic i seem.. it must look sweet and relationshiply! but i rather hab edison as gill`s leading man, but its okie kenny can do biggrin.gif hehHEheh


i think you mean charlene not gillian lol
me either cant wait to see the MV
asillysaint
QUOTE (Little_Purple_Bell @ Feb 12 2006 6 14 AM) *
There isn't anything much on that kiss with Andy and Charlene. No one, or at least there is no news report, complaining about it. She made a lot of headlines if that's what you mean. Everyone of them were made with "Charlene kissing Andy" or something along those lines. It was basically reported like it was actually NORMAL, which is so not right in any way. Charlene actually did it by surprise too by the looks of things; I don't think either of Andy or Gillian expected that she actually meant it. What's up with "missing his cheeks so catching his lips instead"? That's so dumb.

Haha, Andy said that he WILL find some chance to kiss Gillian somehow! I hope he invites Gillian to be a female lead in one of his movies, then maybe Gillian can have the chance to sense how nice it is to be promoted by the cast of the movie, just like someone who always had.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!

Andy better keep his words and invite Gillian to film as his lead in one of his upcoming romance flicks.

GR! Kissing is normal now?? This is unfair, so unfair for Gillian!!! Uh, missing his cheeks and landed on his lips instead is lame...you can clearly see that Sa aimed for his formed lips!!!

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!
rumikochan
I went to the Twins Community Forum, EG orbital and I felt alittle disapointed that majority of the fans do not see anything wrong with it. There was this topic in EG orbital about EEG treating Charlene better but most of them said only slightly and it's not that bad. This is why EEG keeps doing it to Gillian bc majority of the fans do not see the problem!
lilsleepyhead916
If anyone is going to start a topic about this biasness issue on the Chinese Twins websites. I can help out a bit. I have an account on Twinsfans.net so if you guys go there to talk about it. Ill back you guys up 100%, but it might take a while since Ill have to try to translate what Im gonna say into chinese.

If only we all lived in HK, we could so gather up into a big group and start protesting in front of EEG.

Hhhmm... I wonder if Paco would take a look at Gillians potential and pull her out of EEG's grasp?

Gosh, I really really really wish that EEG would change their ways of treating Gillian, this biasness is really getting to me now. And I have gone from liking both Twins (of course liking Gillian more) to now Im really starting to hate Charlene.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER FOR LIFE!!!!!

Edit: Found a video about Gillians kiss scene with Stephen. Clicky Clicky
lol_happi
thanks for the video... hahas stephen was so cute. n gillian too! so maddening dat it was cut from the movie. grrrr. oo guess wad. 49days gonna screen in singapore!!!!!!! i'm so damn happi! gonna watch it kazillion times man!
Transition
QUOTE (colorific123 @ Feb 12 2006 8 21 AM) *
If anyone is going to start a topic about this biasness issue on the Chinese Twins websites. I can help out a bit. I have an account on Twinsfans.net so if you guys go there to talk about it. Ill back you guys up 100%, but it might take a while since Ill have to try to translate what Im gonna say into chinese.

If only we all lived in HK, we could so gather up into a big group and start protesting in front of EEG.

Hhhmm... I wonder if Paco would take a look at Gillians potential and pull her out of EEG's grasp?

Gosh, I really really really wish that EEG would change their ways of treating Gillian, this biasness is really getting to me now. And I have gone from liking both Twins (of course liking Gillian more) to now Im really starting to hate Charlene.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER FOR LIFE!!!!!

Edit: Found a video about Gillians kiss scene with Stephen. Clicky Clicky

I can also help you out, if you were to start a topic on Twinsfans.net...since I know how to read and write Chinese. Just that it'll take a quite bit of time, as I'm using NJ star to type...

Anyways I can't believe some fans in TC thought it was totally normal for Charlene to kiss Andy like that, without any particular reason...and that Gillian fans are making such a big deal about a small peck on the lips!? And as the discussion goes on, and more people are starting to back Gillian up, someone butts in and says how the whole thing is stupid and that it'll only lead to comparison. (Obviously she wants the mods to lock the thread. dry.gif ) I've noticed everytime there are any disagreements between Char and Gill fans...like the one about Gillian being more popular in the future...it always end with some mod locking the thread. I think it's one of the reasons to why Gillian fans doesn't voice out their opinions, as they're afraid that they'll only stir things up and upset the Sa fans, and being accused of starting the whole comparison thing.

btw thanks for the clip. Gillian seemed so nervous and shy while filming that scene...
Was the part when Stephen rubbed his cheek and did that disgusted face supposed to be in the film, or was he just joking around?


Gillian Supporter!
Gill#1Fan
^^^^^^^^^^^ lol that was funny what Stephen did. Yeah I'm starting to argue back to Alexa and bluehearts and RumikoChan and MySassySelf are helping too. Thanks for the clip colorific123. And reading the 4th page seeing that the Char fans are attacking and so far I don't see any Gill fan yeah anything. but i am going to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I see Transition there!


Edited: made another comment. now this time i think i need people to back me up!
krysteL
bout the kissing incident.. char may have some fauLts but think eeg's more responsibLe of it.
Gill#1Fan
I just saw the clip at TC and Charlene just ran to kiss him and started to scream. Then Andy was like this "AH Gil, your turn" and I couldn't really hear her. But I think she said "I have to keep my image" and started to laugh. Then Andy said "But I saw you kiss Stephen Fung" and Gillian laughed and said "Only the cheeks" and he mocked her.. "Only on the cheeks"

But I say it's still wrong. Now we could clear some stuff
bluehearts
Gosh, I'm so mad at some of these fans. I kind of understand why no one is doing much about the bias issue too. It's because the Gillian fans don't see it or they do but just don't want to stir up things because look at the TC thread on the kissing inccident, all the "Twins" fans and even some Gillian fans are thinking we are making a small problem really big. I mean how can we expect to say anything when the majority usually sides with the Charlene fan so there won't be any disagreements between the Gillian and Charlene fans. I'm totally disappointed in some of them...that's just sad.

Feel so bad for Gillian, Gillian may have more fans but a lot of the fans aren't really dedicated or just too scare to object because they know they won't be able to object against all the Charlene fans and they think no one will back them up.
Little_Purple_Bell
Though this event was angering, let's not get too mad over ourselves. There's something happy coming up, because guess what?! EEG is finally doing something in Gillian's favour!!! The Missing Piece is going to come out with its third version!!

Here's the track list:
(Credit To CCT)

The Missing Piece Version Three
Singer: Twins/Charlene Choi/Gillian Chung
Release Date: March 15th
Language: Cantonese
Company: EEG
Other Information: AVCD + CD

Track List:
Disc 1(KTV Disc)(AVCD)
1. Computer Data, not playable
2. Kindergarten KTV
3. Lyricist's Fault KTV
4. Treasure Hunt KTV
5. Dreams Golden House KTV
6. One Time No Twice (Mandarin) KTV
7. One Time No Twice (Cantonese) KTV
8. Conscience Discovery KTV(Bonus Track)
9. Dreams Golden House
10. One Time No Twice (Mandarin)
11. Conscience Discovery(Bonus Track)

Disc 2(CD)
01. One Time No Twice
02. Kindergarten
03. Deep Sea
04. Ching Au Gam
05. Searching For Mozart
06. Pair Joined By Heaven
07. Sky VS Ground
08. Lyricist's Fault
09. A Story Of Texas
10. Treasure Hunt

一時無兩(Version3)

產品名稱 : 一時無兩(Version3)
歌手名稱 : Twins | 蔡卓妍 | 鍾欣桐
出版日期 : 2006年3月15日
語言 : 粵語
出品商 : 英皇娛樂集團 (HK)
其他資料 : AVCD + CD

曲目:
Disc 1(KTV Disc)(AVCD)
1. Computer Data, not playable
2. 幼稚園KTV
3. 作詞人的錯KTV
4. 尋寶KTV
5. 夢想黃金屋KTV
6. 一時無兩[國]KTV
7. 一時無兩KTV
8. 良心發现KTV(Bonus Track)
9. 夢想黃金屋
10. 一時無兩[國]
11. 良心發现(Bonus Track)

Disc2(CD)
01. 一時無兩
02. 幼稚園
03. 海底深
04. 程咬金
05. 尋找莫札特
06. 佳偶天成
07. 天對地
08. 作詞人的錯
09. 德州的故事
10. 尋寶

Hehe, now I'm kinda glad waited a bit before buying The Missing Piece, but then it's not coming out until March........ unsure.gif Oh well! At least there's something nice that they're doing to Gillian!
xlai-wong-baox
QUOTE (twinsrock3000 @ Feb 12 2006 4 53 PM) *
I just saw the clip at TC and Charlene just ran to kiss him and started to scream. Then Andy was like this "AH Gil, your turn" and I couldn't really hear her. But I think she said "I have to keep my image" and started to laugh. Then Andy said "But I saw you kiss Stephen Fung" and Gillian laughed and said "Only the cheeks" and he mocked her.. "Only on the cheeks"

But I say it's still wrong. Now we could clear some stuff


Yes, I've seen that clip too. People are saying there's nothing wrong with it, but did you see the reaction from the fan filming it? They were like WTF? Probably because you're not supposed to kiss Andy Lau in PUBLIC!
lito_mi
Plz join this forum if you're a KG fan!!

http://s15.invisionfree.com/KG_Universe/
c a t h y
QUOTE (Little_Purple_Bell @ Feb 12 2006 9 12 PM) *
Though this event was angering, let's not get too mad over ourselves. There's something happy coming up, because guess what?! EEG is finally doing something in Gillian's favour!!! The Missing Piece is going to come out with its third version!!

The Missing Piece Version Three
Singer: Twins/Charlene Choi/Gillian Chung
Release Date: March 15th
Language: Cantonese
Company: EEG
Other Information: AVCD + CD

Track List:
Disc 1(KTV Disc)(AVCD)
1. Computer Data, not playable
2. Kindergarten KTV
3. Lyricist's Fault KTV
4. Treasure Hunt KTV
5. Dreams Golden House KTV
6. One Time No Twice (Mandarin) KTV
7. One Time No Twice (Cantonese) KTV
8. Conscience Discovery KTV(Bonus Track)
9. Dreams Golden House
10. One Time No Twice (Mandarin)
11. Conscience Discovery(Bonus Track)

Disc 2(CD)
01. One Time No Twice
02. Kindergarten
03. Deep Sea
04. Ching Au Gam
05. Searching For Mozart
06. Pair Joined By Heaven
07. Sky VS Ground
08. Lyricist's Fault
09. A Story Of Texas
10. Treasure Hunt

Hehe, now I'm kinda glad waited a bit before buying The Missing Piece, but then it's not coming out until March........ unsure.gif Oh well! At least there's something nice that they're doing to Gillian!



I'm glad that they are finally doing something for Gillian. BUT. A THIRD VERSION!? I got mad after they decided to release a second version with something extra and now they have a THIRD VERSION!! It's got all those KTV's as well!! *cries* I'll probably buy it the next time I go HK or something. Hopefully they'll release the KTV's on a separate karaoke disc. Being a fan of an EEG artist is so expensive *sigh*

There was a promotion event for 49 days today! (The ONLY one before the screening of the movie) I'm glad to read that quite a lot of Gillian fans were there to support her. The premiere is tomorrow and then the movie is released on Thursday in HK (Friday in Taiwan!).

p.s. Thanks for the clip, colorfic123! both Stephen and Gillian are so cute!!
a_gill
wow , the MV of Kenny and Gill going out in March 15th , it's too long , i can't wait anymore biggrin.gif
asillysaint
QUOTE (a_gill @ Feb 12 2006 10 13 PM) *
wow , the MV of Kenny and Gill going out in March 15th , it's too long , i can't wait anymore biggrin.gif

Wah! Aiya...so long!

Thanks for the clip Colorific123; Stephen and Gillian are super cute together.

Hm, so if the Duet is part of the Third Version...does that mean, the MV won't be released til then??

Um, if you guys weren't sure, my UserID@ TC is MySassySelf! nihao.gif Don't worry, I already responded to quite a few people.

And as for the clip of the show...this is all I have to say:
QUOTE ("xlai-wong-baox")

Just watched the clip...uh, the pictures provided of Gillian's embarassed and surprised reaction is much clearer than the clip downloaded. The clip doesn't even show Gillian's initial reaction. It was already so many seconds later the kiss, Sa screaming, Andy shifting his head back and forth, and then the question addressed to Gillian but even then, the camera angle was so far and didn't zoom in on the screen...we couldn't even see Gillian's reaction at and after the kiss. Of course, everything came off as a joke because that's the best way to eliminate all questions.

I REST MY CASE! happy.gif'

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!
Gill#1Fan
omg a third verison??? i planned out all my CNY money to buy their album and now a third verison. so should i get Kenny album for the MV since this have it??? i dont want to waste money..... and their mando album im gonna get and i have to get 3 present for my fwend... come on i dont have much $$$ on me.... grr!!!

but how are they doing that for gillian? and how are their 3 singer? so much KTV!! i must get this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oooo your MySassySelf?? hi!


edited: i just remember that i emailed EEG last night at the sitituation and the subject was: CONSIDER THIS BIG TIME! and i think they read it and made a third verison and maybed make us complainer happy? :/
bluehearts
QUOTE (kawaiilala @ Feb 12 2006 10 38 PM) *
Um, if you guys weren't sure, my UserID@ TC is MySassySelf! nihao.gif Don't worry, I already responded to quite a few people.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!


So you are MySassySelf. When i read replies from MySassySelf, I was suspecting it was either you or Little_Purple_Bell...dunno why I thought that but maybe because you guys always write long replies..lolx

Wow...Can't believe a third verison of "The Missing Piece" Such a ripe off but I'm glad they finally are doing something for Gillian!! I think the only reason they actually put the duet MV on the album is because they know it will attract fans to buy it since the song + MV is getting popular! If it wasn't doing that well, they would totally disregard the idea of even putting it in... cluebat.gif
importknightz84
We just had a big snow storm here so i wasn't home the last two days. Now i come back and see all this talk about Sa kissing Andy. I just saw the clip as well and it makes me mad. Ah Sa knows that gillian can't kiss anybody and yet she goes and kiss Andy publicly knowing that it would put gillian in an awkward position. Aren't they supposed to be friends? Anyways i'll back u guys up 100% in other forums. I think we should decide which forums to discuss this issue along with other bias issues on, so we can all support gillian and let everyone know that gillian fans aren't just gonna sit here and not do or say anything about these outrages.
Bubbly_Millionheiress
QUOTE (importknightz84 @ Feb 13 2006 11 48 AM) *
We just had a big snow storm here so i wasn't home the last two days. Now i come back and see all this talk about Sa kissing Andy. I just saw the clip as well and it makes me mad. Ah Sa knows that gillian can't kiss anybody and yet she goes and kiss Andy publicly knowing that it would put gillian in an awkward position. Aren't they supposed to be friends? Anyways i'll back u guys up 100% in other forums. I think we should decide which forums to discuss this issue along with other bias issues on, so we can all support gillian and let everyone know that gillian fans aren't just gonna sit here and not do or say anything about these outrages.



ok.ok.. calm down! loool.gif anyway you shuld try this site : PRETTY GILLIAN ?

it's for gillian fans! and it's cool!!
half_hk_n_viet
i really love it how Gillian's supporters are very reasonable and has a point in everything! Not rude or jumping to conclusion! im sure if Gillian knows about this she would be proud to have supporters like you guys.
TwiNs_AZN_pRyde
The bit about Charlene aiming for the cheek but missed and got the lips instead dry.gif I mean come on thats pretty hard to beliee im pretti sure she was tryin to aim for the lips for sure. I just hope Andy keeps his word about tryin to say to kiss Gillian so she can finally have her forst onscreen kiss then EEG has no reason to stop her from acting in kissing scenes again.

Im glad EEG is doin sumthin good for Gillian but a 3rd version dry.gif They are alwais tempting people to buy the same thing with just a lil extra. I mean missing peace onli been out for a while but already 3 different version in such a short time. i wonder if they are goin to make a 5 version or sumthing cluebat.gif .

biggrin.gif its great how Gillian the MV is goin to be out soon. Everyone it supper excited to get it yeah.gif yeah.gif

GILLIAN SUPPORTER 4EVAH!!!
asillysaint
Thanks for the piece of cute news Little_Purple_Bell. Aw, too bad instead of EEG encouraging both Kenny and Gillian to promote their duet together for Valentine's Day, Kenny is out there making chocolate with Isabella while Gillian is promoting with Stephen! down.gif

And I'm so proud how Stephen even questioned if the kissing scene was removed due to EEG. I was thinking about writing or contacting some big names to help Gillian sort out some issues. Hm, anyone know a good website of some sort of Stephen because it seems like he surely supports Gillian.

Gillian's ex-boyfriend was a complete jerk! Wonder how he feels towards Gillian now huh?? A million jackets and 1000 acres of red roses won't ever mend back the broken feelings!!! 1.gif Perhaps the guy was too cool to show a soft side of caring for someone. cluebat.gif

Oh well, Sa fans are functioning at a whole different level that's why it's sort of pointless to debate because they keep on clinging onto this mentality that Gillian Fans are jealous of Sa for stealing the spot light?? Uh, HELLO? There was no spotlight? Why? Because both Twins that day shined their different ways. Gillian didn't need to run desperately for a kiss to gain attention. Her simple answer to Andy already showed how professional she was about the awkward situation.

Seriously, did Sa really need to express that irritable yell after kissing Andy?? cluebat.gif

Anyways, at least we stirred things up a bit showing our support for Gillian.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!!!
Little_Purple_Bell
QUOTE (kawaiilala @ Feb 13 2006 7 34 AM) *
Thanks for the piece of cute news Little_Purple_Bell. Aw, too bad instead of EEG encouraging both Kenny and Gillian to promote their duet together for Valentine's Day, Kenny is out there making chocolate with Isabella while Gillian is promoting with Stephen! down.gif

And I'm so proud how Stephen even questioned if the kissing scene was removed due to EEG. I was thinking about writing or contacting some big names to help Gillian sort out some issues. Hm, anyone know a good website of some sort of Stephen because it seems like he surely supports Gillian.

Gillian's ex-boyfriend was a complete jerk! Wonder how he feels towards Gillian now huh?? A million jackets and 1000 acres of red roses won't ever mend back the broken feelings!!! 1.gif Perhaps the guy was too cool to show a soft side of caring for someone. cluebat.gif

Oh well, Sa fans are functioning at a whole different level that's why it's sort of pointless to debate because they keep on clinging onto this mentality that Gillian Fans are jealous of Sa for stealing the spot light?? Uh, HELLO? There was no spotlight? Why? Because both Twins that day shined their different ways. Gillian didn't need to run desperately for a kiss to gain attention. Her simple answer to Andy already showed how professional she was about the awkward situation.

Seriously, did Sa really need to express that irritable yell after kissing Andy?? cluebat.gif

Anyways, at least we stirred things up a bit showing our support for Gillian.

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!!!!

Yep, the news about the third version made my day. laugh.gif But then EEG is practically ripping people who bought the first/second version off, especially the first version. We should've guessed that EEG could be nicer, but not THAT nice to put Kenny and Gillian together for Valentine's Day. dry.gif There's still a day until Valentine's Day, so there's still hope; perhaps KG will get together on the official date? Then again, Gillian isn't exactly fond of Valentine's Day........

I think Stephen is really supportive of Gillian too! They've co-starred twice. I was watching the behind the scenes of House Of Fury; Gillian slipped and fell on her hip, so Stephen was like, "I massage it for you!" Gillan then laughed and said, "No! It'll lead to rumours; you wouldn't want that!" I figure that Stephen's another person that Gillian feels free to joke with.

We Gillian Supporters do need to find another way to help Gillian. Debating Charlene fans won't help because many of them of simply unreasonable. The other thing is the people we should be convincing aren't Charlene fans, but the audience. Wonder who we could reflect our comments and suggestions to? I hope Andy does get Gillian to star in a movie!!

GILLIAN SUPPORTER!
lkwan
I like both Gil and Char. I think they are really the best group i have ever seen. I hope they can be more and more popular and remain as TWIN.
I don't wish to see them going their own way!
Ah Q and Ah Sa is the BEST!!
bluehearts
I guess debating with them is like talking to a piece of wood since we think at different levels...What they say can't get through us and what we say won't lit a light bulb for them...but it just gets me annoyed by their response. They are like talking on a different topic or something everytime they response....

I'm glad Stephen is so supportive of Gillian!! He might make her the main lead in more of his movies...When he asked if the kiss was cut out from the movie because of EEG, he seems to be hinting something...I'm just hoping Stephen will continue to support and ask Gillian to do more movies. biggrin.gif
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