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shaw_mag
on Oct 7, 2005, YesAsia will release "Blood of Good and Evil" vcd for US/ North America region. 15 years after 1st airing.
Maggie, Deric Wan, Kitty Lai are the main casts.

Here is the link :

BOGAE @ yesasia US

BOGAE @ yesasia global

So, go for it!

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Check post #8 below for my recent tour to BOGAE romantic sites in (greater) London this summer!

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crx555
THe link is down, do u know where else i could go and find movies with Kitty Lai????

thnx
~ Miss Dior ~
QUOTE(crx555 @ May 18 2007 12 58 AM) [snapback]3910189[/snapback]
THe link is down, do u know where else i could go and find movies with Kitty Lai????

thnx


OMG your another Kitty Lai fan??

I loved her since watching her in Heaven Sword Dragon Sabre wiht Tony Leung .. as the mongolian princess

Some updated new she got married last year!!!
shaw_mag
The link to BOGAE @ 1st post is fixed.

If u live in US, yesasia is a good source to get tvb vcd/dvd. Also check your local dvd rentals.

Here is a threat is next door forum special discussing tvb's dvd.
tvbblock
have watch this just a few weeks ago. brought the cheap vcd from the rental place. well, I could got the origial but too expenise. the series overall is great. tvb these days couldn't come up with strong cast and script like this anymore.
crx555
yes, i'm a big fan of Kitty Lai

I live in Canada, most rental places do not have old TVB shows for sale.

I love watching Kitty in heavenly sword, she is so good, as a good and bad person in the show.
appletje
This was a great serie, Deric acted very good in this serie. And the pairing up with Maggie was also good. I hope they will make a tv-couple in the future, but I doubt it.
shaw_mag
This summer I had a chance to visit London. One of my goal is to visit those romantic sites captured in BOGAE. To my surprise, most of them are still there. This fact tells us that London is a well preserved city.

Click the link below for some pics of those romantic sites and comparison of them in almost 20 years:

Shaw's BOGAE London Tour

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NetDragonC
This was a great series indeed, except for the gay subplot which was kind of out of place.
AngelB
I am now watching this movie again after 18 years - I still love the pairing of Deric and Maggie! They are the best match couple in all TVB series ever!
uptowngirl
one of the best TVB series I ever saw and I just got to see it recently...I was like "Is this a TVB series because the ones today can't even compare"
hyppie
i bought the DVD but haven't watch it, i was not sure who Deric is pairing up in this series, Maggie or Kitty?

if he pair up with Maggie then I will go watch it now .. yessssss I'm in my "Maggie" mood now, but this short hair is a bit .. umm

wow there's a gay subplot too? that's a suprise .. in a TVB series ?more than 10 years ago? wow
keylin
do any one know where I can get the themesong?
shaw_mag
QUOTE (keylin @ Feb 10 2009 8 58 AM) *
do any one know where I can get the themesong?


《笑看風雲變》 by 梅艷芳 Anita Mui and 許志安 Andy Hui。
Check their old albums.

QUOTE (hyppie @ Feb 7 2009 9 52 PM) *
i bought the DVD but haven't watch it, i was not sure who Deric is pairing up in this series, Maggie or Kitty?

if he pair up with Maggie then I will go watch it now .. yessssss I'm in my "Maggie" mood now, but this short hair is a bit .. umm

wow there's a gay subplot too? that's a suprise .. in a TVB series ?more than 10 years ago? wow



What's wrong w/ the hair? 1.gif
In fact, many young girls had THAT Shek Yiming hairstyle AFTER watching BOGAE. It looks good on Maggie, but not always on others loool.gif

Deric is paired w/
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Hey, there is a bonus for u. When u watch BOGAE, try to spot the then-not-so-famous actors.
hint:
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ms_fan
I've been a fan of Maggie's since she was in that one ancient drama with Leon Lai (forgot the name of that drama). My hubby thinks I'm obssessed w/ Maggie since most of the movies that I watch have her in it. LOL.

If you are a Maggie fan, how long have you been a fan and which drama do you like the most? I'm thinking that the majority of Maggie's biggest fans are now in their early/mid 30s (since I'm in that category!). hehehehe. I like BOGAE the most though.
shaw_mag
QUOTE (ms_fan @ Feb 10 2009 6 25 PM) *
I've been a fan of Maggie's since she was in that one ancient drama with Leon Lai (forgot the name of that drama). My hubby thinks I'm obssessed w/ Maggie since most of the movies that I watch have her in it. LOL.


That tvb ancient drama of Maggie, Leon, and Gordon Lau is 兵權 (Bing Kuen)



Tell your hubby you are not the only one obsessed w/ her. blush.gif




hyppie
QUOTE (shaw_mag @ Feb 10 2009 6 20 PM) *
《笑看風雲變》 by 梅艷芳 Anita Mui and 許志安 Andy Hui。
Check their old albums.




What's wrong w/ the hair? 1.gif
In fact, many young girls had THAT Shek Yiming hairstyle AFTER watching BOGAE. It looks good on Maggie, but not always on others loool.gif

Deric is paired w/
Hidden Text:



Hey, there is a bonus for u. When u watch BOGAE, try to spot the then-not-so-famous actors.
hint:
Hidden Text:



nothing wrong with the hair, maybe it was the fashion at the time, for me it was a bit short, but then ofcourse it look good on Maggie, well since she have a pretty and cute face so most of the hair style would look good on her. It seem to me that Maggie prefer short hair over long hair, she has short hair in most of her modern series, she looks absolutely charming in acient series, yes I like Maggie with long hair too infatuated.gif

i read your spolier, i'm happy and now I will watch it first before Conscience 1.gif

QUOTE (shaw_mag @ Feb 11 2009 3 23 PM) *
That tvb ancient drama of Maggie, Leon, and Gordon Lau is 兵權 (Bing Kuen)



Tell your hubby you are not the only one obsessed w/ her. blush.gif


she looks so cute in here, but the dvd shop at my place doesn't have this series, oh s*ck dry.gif does she end up with Leon in this series? does she appear alot? or is it like the normal old TVB dramas where most the time male leads were on the screen whistle.gif
jjding
QUOTE (hyppie @ Feb 11 2009 8 12 AM) *
she looks so cute in here, but the dvd shop at my place doesn't have this series, oh s*ck dry.gif does she end up with Leon in this series? does she appear alot? or is it like the normal old TVB dramas where most the time male leads were on the screen whistle.gif


Maggie and Gordon are the main leads in this serie. She does have a fair amount of screentime.

In the end, Leon went to look for her (open ending). However, I do believe they'll be together. Although, throughout the story, she only like Gordon. My favorite character in this story is actually Leon. I love his devotion towards Maggie. Not only was his character very good looking and charming but also very witty!! He always seem to be able to help Maggie out of trouble. Just the perfect guy! infatuated.gif Maggie and Leon pairing is the reason why I like watching this serie. The war, Gordon and his wife etc..were super boring!
Elephant
This series was first on air nearly 20 years ago. During this stage, there have been numerous HK series produced, but as for me, nothing could compare with it, because this was a perfect combination of good artists, good director, good script, good music composing,…that you can’t find out in any series at present. Almost every artist had done well in portraying their role, so it was hard to decide who the best was or which one was better than the other. Therefore, my following ratings are just aimed at the characters of BOGAV: the development of characteristics, behaviors, conducts or motives of each role.

Chai Hou Nam (Deric Wan)
Deric did an excellent job in this series. Hardly can you find any flaw from his character, simply because he acted so well in this role. He successfully convinced viewers to accept the gradual transition from a villain to a good man and his own struggle of turning to honest man. I was very satisfied with Chai Hou Nam of Deric and even I can mark 10/10 for this character until I found his blindness in recovering for Chai Kiu Jing’s crimes unacceptable at the end part of film. He pleaded his deeds for repaying Kiu Jing for bring up during the long time. I didn’t like this point because at that time, Hou Nam already understood what kind of man his adoptive father was and what crime he could make. That was an extremely wicked dangerous gangster leader, but Hou Nam still helped him avoiding court custody by threatening witnesses. His blindness made another person get harmed by Kiu Jing. It was the girl he loved so much, Shek Yee Ming.
Rating: 9/10

Shek Yee Ming (Maggie Siu)
I bet Maggie got numerous fans loving her thru this role. That was an intelligent, clever, dynamic and righteous reporter. I like the way Yee Ming reacted to her father’s recovery of his 2nd wife in HK. It was very determining and straightforward behavior. I liked Yee Ming’s personalities and her deep love for Hou Nam very much. If Yee Ming hadn’t made the 2 following decisions, she would have got the highest mark…The first is when Yee Ming used important evidence for prosecuting Kiu Jing’s unlawful actions as an option for Hou Nam to select between her and his evil adoptive father. It’s unbelievable that an upright person like Yee Ming could do such a strange action. It was because of this evidence that her younger brother, Shek Ka Hou, suffered an injustice death, why could she innocently use it as an option for Hou Nam to choose between her and Kiu Jing? Wasn’t there any better solution for her to wake up Hou Nam’s conscience? I couldn’t agree with her very decision at any point! The second is when Yee Ming accepted a marriage with Dr Sung (I’m unsure his name because it has been so long since the last time I watched this film). Was it necessary for Yee Ming to show Hou Nam that he would pay price for his decision? Why did she determine to marry Dr Sung while she still loved Hou Nam? The event that she saved Hou Nam from a bullet fired by Kiu Jing proved she still had a deep feeling with Hou Nam. I can understand Yee Ming wanted to affirm her consistency with Hou Nam, but it didn’t mean that she should get married with Dr Sung immediately when she had yet to forget Hou Nam’s image completely. Did she think of Dr Sung’s hurt feeling to find out his fiancée still loving her ex-boyfriend? Accidentally her decision hurt feelings of the both men falling in love with her. I know these flaws were of scriptwriters’ parts because they always seemed to comply with the old motif of HK drama series. That is, the leading actor and actress separate to each other before they will reunite happily at last for a satisfactory ending to viewers. But in this film, they had clumsily created a forced separation that made Yee Ming lose good points in speculators’ eyes. Of course, it was not Maggie’s faults because she did a good job of portraying Yee Ming. But, as I have ever said above, this rating is just aimed at characters not artists and I can’t give the highest mark to an imperfect role.
Rating: 8/10

Cheung Ding Bong (Law Lok Lum)
I really liked this role so much because he was nearly a perfect good man. A model cop, a justice pursuer, a responsible citizen, a kind colleague, an honest old friend…This guy could have got the 10 mark if he did care more about his wife and child instead of devoting so much to his police career. His fault almost resulted to a terrible tragedy in his life when his blooded son tended to kill him at his opponent’s will.
Rating: 9.5/10

Shek Kah Hou (Lam Lei)
This character is also a good and honest cop. I felt really shocked and sorry for his misfortune death. Kah Hou was described as a smart and dynamic policeman, a good son of the Shek family and a faithful lover of Fong Ling. I felt amused to see the way he flirted with Fong Ling by buying clothes in her shop. What an interesting guy! But I found he was somewhat immature when deciding to resign his job in order to start a new life abroad with Fong Ling. Should he advise his parents and Fong Ling to give him more time to solve all differences between the two sides, he could have had a happy ending with Fong Ling instead of a mishap accident.
Rating: 9/10

Diane (Kitty Lai)
I didn’t like Diane’s personalities at all and felt bored whenever she appeared on screen. Her inconsistency and contradiction in expressing emotions with Hou Nam and Sam (the architect pursuing her) led her to a dead-end and a tragedy of life: killing herself. Of course, I’m really sorry for her death, but this was the way she chose when she couldn't solve her own contradictions in her heart. What a poor character!
Rating: 7/10

Shek Kah Wing (Nathan Chan)
It was not until Shek Kah Wing became Kiu Jing’s son-in-law that I found this role fuzzy and unimpressive except the fact that he was Shek Kah Hou’s elder brother. This role began to catch my eyes only when he expressed his dark schemes of decrying Hou Nam’s image in Kiu Jing’s mind for the purpose of taking charge of the leading post in the Chai company and taking over all unlawful affairs from Kiu Jing’s hand. Yep, I was very impressed by the scene when Kah Wing rudely blew up Kiu Jing and outright overthrew Jing’s leadership in the underworld gang. The ending of death was a deserving punishment for all bad jobs he had done, especially causing his brother’s death.
Rating: 7.5/10

Phew! Here comes the last character in my rating, and also my most favorite role in this series:
Chai Kiu Jing (Tsang Kong)
When I watched this film the first time, I have never imagined someday I could like such a character. You know, it’s unbelievable to favor this negative role, but I do so, indeed. I well knew Kiu Jing was an extremely wicked and evil man, like a hellish devil in a human body, however, I found that the scriptwriters built up this role excellently and successfully. He was a perfect combination of such personalities as cruel, snaky, cunning, intelligent, merciless and especially very skeptical, like the ancient character Cao Cao in the famous novel “Romance of the Three Kingdoms” written by Lou Guanzhong in the 14th century. Each of his actions or thoughts even bad or good always had logical explanations for his reasons or motives. Viewers would have no annoyance when following his development of characteristics or asked themselves such questions as why he had to do this, why he wanted to get rid of this guy or that one because all his doings stemmed from blood-and-bone experiences, useful lessons Kiu Jing learned from his uncharitable childhood. Right at the first time Kiu Jing had gone to Hong Kong, he was forced to learn an invaluable lesson worth a life of man. That was, if he wanted to survive in a society full of fatal pitfalls, he had to depend on himself only, never trust in anyone including his kindred. It was Shek Cheung Chun, his non-blooded brother, who taught him this crucial lesson. “When a person is on the verge of death or life, he becomes selfish and always prioritizes his own interests ahead of anyone else’s even his relative.” No wonder why Kiu Jing was so skeptical and heartless to lots of his men or rivals, and punished anyone who betrayed him without mercy. This lesson haunted Kiu Jing during the rest of his grown-up life until he became the leader of a big underworld gang in HK. To defend himself and his standing in the underworld, Kiu Jing always applied this bitter lesson in his operating job and even turned it into the awesome motto: “he would rather make a mistake of killing many an innocent person than miss out a traitor". How terrible!!!...

However, when I looked into Kiu Jing’s characteristics thru his actions, I did discover some amazingly strange details. Why didn’t Kiu Jing order to kill Hing’s son immediately when he revealed that guy had betrayed him and supplied his secret information to the police? Because Hing was a very faithful right-hand man of Kiu Jing and because he could never forgive any traitor, Kiu Jing decided to choose the solution that was, as for him, fair to him and Hing. That was, until Hing’s son got married and gave birth the first paternal grandson for Hing, Kiu Jing had the killer eradicate the traitor. It was his minimum mercy for a traitor and his maximum favor for a devoted minion.

When Kiu Jing knew Hou Nam was Cheung Ding Bong’s blooded son, who always tended to imprison him for his unlawful doings, Kiu Jing not only had no intention of staying aloof from Hou Nam but also plotted plans to win Hou Nam’s paternal love. It was simply because Kiu Jing greatly respected his family happiness and integrity and by all means protected his family from being ruined for any reasons. Destiny seemed cruel to Kiu Jing when the persons he wholeheartedly cared for didn’t reciprocate his love or even turned their back on him. The adoptive mother, whom Kiu Jing devotedly respected and loved, showed her greatest concerns for only his brother, Shek Cheung Chun, before she passed away. The only daughter, whom Kiu Jing always took care and pampered, finally left him to go into the church. The adoptive son, whom Kiu Jing extremely entrusted and tended to hand over the whole managerial work when he retired, lastly expressed desires to give up all his unlawful transactions. And the faithful wife, whom Kiu Jing loved with all his heart, someday lied him about the meeting with her ex-husband. These were God’s punishments for unforgivable crimes Kiu Jing committed, but he wasn’t yielded to his fate and tried to confront it hopelessly in vain. Till the last moment in his life, Kiu Jing still defended his standpoint and deeds; he determined to choose self-murder instead of accepting any repay from Hou Nam as a way to revenge Hou Nam and his severe fate…
Rating: 10/10

This character made such a strong impression on my mind that I thought there would never be a second negative character as successful as the role Kiu Jing in HK series afterwards. Indeed, I have seen no role yet. If you ever like Ngoh Wah or Chan Hung Lit in negative roles in TGOL, you surely can’t deny your admiration for Tsang Kong in the role Chai Kiu Jing after watching this film. It was simply because Tsang Kong was the prime master in starring negative characters that no HK artist can compare with him on this field. I don’t imagine who else can play the role Kiu Jing as excellently as Tsang Kong as this role seemed to be written for him only.

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uptowngirl
my channel broadcasted this series, at first, I wasn't into it too much. But it was really good and I find myself rewatching afterwards. I was so into their characters and feel for them too, something that I can never find nowadays.
jadul80
Superb TVB drama! No current production can pass this memorable classic serie, Deric and Maggie are so convincing/compatible to portray Hou Nam and Yi Ming respectively. Also love the soundtrack songs such as The End of the Innocence, As Tears Go By, Right Here Waiting, Bad Medicine, and last but not least the opening song that sung by Andy Hui-Anita Mui.
Compared with big-budget The Gem of Life, sorry TGOL is failure serie....
Alzarius
I'm glad there are still people who enjoy this series, especially with all the flashy, glitzy stuff that TVB puts out nowadays. This is really my all-time favorite series. It sucked me right in the first time I saw it when it came out, and I've rewatched it 2 other times since then. I haven't seen it for a while, and I think I'm itching to watch it again. It shows that you don't need fancy cars, expensive clothes, a big cast, or stuff like that to make a good show..... just a good script, interesting story, and good acting.

More people need to see this one.
shaw_mag
QUOTE (Alzarius @ Oct 27 2009 10 27 PM) *
I'm glad there are still people who enjoy this series, especially with all the flashy, glitzy stuff that TVB puts out nowadays. This is really my all-time favorite series. It sucked me right in the first time I saw it when it came out, and I've rewatched it 2 other times since then. I haven't seen it for a while, and I think I'm itching to watch it again. It shows that you don't need fancy cars, expensive clothes, a big cast, or stuff like that to make a good show..... just a good script, interesting story, and good acting.

More people need to see this one.


good script and good acting aside, BOGAE is also a big production, which means TVB assigned big budget in it.

Although the fashion, car, housing interior might look outdated now, it was considered quite glamour in the late 80s - early 90s. Come on, Hou Nam's red convertible is not everyone's car. Don't forget his yatch too.

How about the outdoor filming in Greater London? I saw one pic of the artistes and crew in Kai Tak airport prior to boarding, they were about 20 people. It is a big outdoor team. and to London! come one. tvb did not spend that big money for every series, only for the selected ones.

I also admire the hardwork of the music director. There are about 40 english and cantonese songs in BOGAE. Those are popular songs at that time, or the public fav from the past. I will always remember they set Rod Steward's Maggie for Yi Ming's scene in her univ dorm. ha...ha..., i guess the music director picked that song innocently purely to match the artiste's name, not for the meaning of the song (which is thousand miles apart).

What's next? Cast! BOGAE has big cast. Deric, Maggie, Katie are the hot young artistes in tvb's portfolio. Lam Lai (Gar Ho) is also member of the pop young trio singers Little Tiger. Zang Kong (Hou Nam's dad) is a well known actor in movies as well as tv. Remember his role in Legend of Condor? Maggie Lie (Hou Nam's mom) is former tvb fa dan.

One more point: BOGAE's producer is Lei Siu Wah. BOGAE is his first tv series in tvb after moving from atv. since tvb trusted him with big budget and resources, Lei wanted to show his best to his new boss. No wonder the result is a wow to us the audience.

In short, BOGAE is a good overall show. Don't miss it! You'll cry regretting it!

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