I'm still on the process of watching this series and I'm just done watching ep. 14 which was the most heart wrecking so far. I think I couldn't finish this series in a week or two if this will continue to get depressing. I choose to watch this one to ease my depression not to fuel it up. =)

On the other hand, I'm impressed with all the wisdom that this series has to impart to all its viewers. It had so many points to ponder about life, family, friendship and love after watching several episodes.

SwtAznAngel and shadesofpurple, yeah, I felt bad for both SJ and XH. I have to say, though, HQ did pledge his love to SJ first, and she went through a lot of hardship just waiting on him to give that promise to her. SJ waited on HQ, went searching for him, and suffered a lot for him, and then he waltzed off with XH, and SJ was actually *understanding* about it and even put her life on the line for XH to save HQ! (I would have said, "HQ, that's it. I've had enough!") SJ was always helping others out and struggling to do the right thing. XH, on the other hand, did make a bad decision on her own (several, actually), that put a lot of people at risk, caused several innocent people's deaths, and generally wreaked havoc (not to mention making HQ go to the "dark side" temporarily). At least, in the end, XH redeemed herself, but I found it a little hard to feel sorry for XH after she killed all of those people (though she did heal a few, too). And I found it really hard to feel sorry for HQ when he had two very dedicated women, and he just couldn't give them up, so SJ got to be his mistress (hip hip hooray ) So unfair to both women.

iriz, oh man, which part are you at? At one point, star and I were wondering if TWFX was ever going to be happy again, or if everyone was just going to die or end up miserable. Thank goodness that wasn't the case! Have hope; the sadness doesn't go on forever. (But it gets more depressing before it gets better).

I do like how profound the wisdom in TWFX is... I was surprised there were so many good things to think about and discuss... a lot of really good messages (and a few where I was like "Whaaat?") By the way, for the very end, Ariel and Hu Ge helped to write/think up the ending themselves

I just finished watching this series. It was pretty good considering how corny it was as a story but i kinda fell for it and loved it. Normally series like these, i would watch 1 or 2 episode and stop but this got me into it.

Ho Ho Ho .
Bumping an old thread
Just rewatching this series again after finishing LOCH - suffering from lack of Ariel drama lol

OPPS Sorry Swim
Didnt know we are not allow to bump, sorry sorry lol
Well of course favourite characters has to them 2 of course But you're right La Fu Zi is probably the most interesting and well liked side character of the drama.
I lol'ed the most at parts with him such as when he was giving out punishment to Xiao Qi with the whip,
or when Dong Yong forgotten about Xiao Qi and his friends are talking about it and out come Fu Zi
"If can forget, then you'll be happy" then slap all 3 of them in 1 go haha.

Heeey, no bumping! At least add a little more TWFX discussion to your post, so I can reply! Who was your fave side character (NOT Xiao Qiao or Dong Yong)? It's a tough call, but I think it might be Fu Zi for me. He's such an interesting guy, and I would never have expected him to be such a rebel when he was young. (quite unlike Dong Yong in that respect). Oh, a funny thing about TWFX... I've always liked sweet potatoes, but now, whenever my mom makes sweet potatoes, I'm like "Di Guaaaa!" It feels like so much more of a privilege to have "di gua" now (after watching TWFX... namely the scene where Xiao Qi bites into Di Gua/di gua

Hmm interesting enough haha i for one have never try kao di gua before xP
Not sure if i really want to try one though ..


I especially love the scene when Xiao Qi came home to tell Dong Yong that shes pregnant and shes just describing it to Dong Yong that they are going to have a small di gua and she's using her hands to "draw" it out to him
Couldnt stop laughing lol

Clemz, ohh, but kao di gua is just as good as Xiao Qi made it seem!

LOL, I almost forgot that scene... "Xiao Di Gua" charades! It was so cute, and they were both so happy when Di Gua finally realized what Xiao Qi was trying to say. Di Gua picks up Xiao Qi and swings her around 'cause he's so excited, doesn't he? And then he's like, "Oops, I forgot she's pregnant... must be more gentle" :-X Xiao Di Gua is really adorable, too... I wonder if he really spent his whole life lighting the lanterns for his mommy in case she came home. Wonder what happened to Saijin's baby too... were Xiao Di Gua and Xiao Saijin or Haoqi friends like they parents?

Hmm well i'll try to hint to my mum to make me some i guess xD
Don't think i ever saw anyone in my family eating one before. but i might be the odd one out.

Haha yah that scene is probably one of the many awesome scenes i loved in TWFX.
Just the whole trying to describe she's pregnant by Xiao Qi, the expression, the hand movements haha

I think he probably did. I mean after all, his father di gua taught him and brought him to light the lanterns every night until the sad day he died. So i hope his son carry on the tradition of lighting the road for his mum, but i have a feeling he might probably feel a little angry or upset that when Di Gua die, his mum never end up coming after so many long years the both of them live waiting for her.
That part always gets me wondering, i know it didnt explore until this far in the drama, but i just kinda feel that all the broken lanterns at the end,
was it because Di Gua and Xiao Di Gua both passed away ... or Di Gua passed away and Xiao Di Gua is angry that his mum did not come back for Di Gua and end up not lighting the lanterns anymore haha.

i dont know i think too much xD

guys or who else still read n post...

i just see this film n start to like hu ge...

i like him so much on the ending when they at shanghai can i have picture of him at that scene?????

i also so dispointed with the ending it seems like cut the story...

Wow, I didn't know there was a thread for Tian Wai Fei Xian. I started this drama for Ariel and Hu Ge and it's really good. I love how Ariel is always calling Hu Ge Sweet Potato. Sorry I forget their character name. I haven't finish this drama yet still half way to go. Stopped at 15 but its so sad!!! Actually all the characters are really sad where at least from where I stopped. I've been giving this drama lots of thinking and it seems to me that the Heaven King(Ariel's father) in the drama wants Hu Ge to die rite? Cuz all of a sudden he seems to be suffering so much hardship. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I get so far.

Kuo xiang oh the ending wasn't good? I thought people said it was a good ending? Hmm...that's okay I suppose.

Hao Qi side story: I really liked the insight to a character like Hao Qi...proving brains/talent alone doesn't lead to personal satisfaction...its integrity and love that does . Other than that, everything else was very from the plot, which I found at times irritating. If there had been 'TWFX Mods', I'd imagine they'd be told off... . The 'Wolf/Cat/Feline Spirit repaying Scholar' storyline comes from one the Liao Zhai stories...why it was added to TWFX, I have no idea. Extend the story? Give Bobby Dou a bigger role? TWFX is already quite an involved story in itself, so I didn't see the point to tack on another...the reason and purpose didn't seem to add or enhance the story IMHO.

The Wisdom: I was ultra impressed by this too. I thought it a refreshing change from the usual philosophy/wisdom accompanied by the negative and gloomy backdrop that a few serious Mainland China dramas tends to favour. Wise words amidst bittersweet and happy times...

'Loving doesn't affect the existence of love'...cool! But, errr....aren't the two mutually inclusive? Nice conundrum...

Same line of thought...remember when Xiao Er agrees that she 'doesn't love' Lao Fu Zi anymore? Of course meaning that she does, but that words need not affect what she truly feels. After her automatic release by the 'Heavens', I found it strange. Does that mean Heaven's laws were based on words and not the truth/feelings in consideration of judgement and punishment? Didn't anybody notice that?



Very interesting! I'm impressed too, because I thought the ending unique and was mentally applauding whoever came up with it after the last episode. It's 'happy' enough to satisfy, yet the obscurity, as in...

So, were they really incarnations of XQ and DY?

Was the modern 'DY' a direct descendant of the old 'DY'? Because, as some have pointed out, this would make the modern DY a descendant of the supposedly incarnated XQ herself...a really twisty situation...XQ happy to meet up with DY or thankful to finally see her son in this descendant?

It adds a beautiful depth and meaning to the overall story. I also think it's a refreshing twist to the traditional ending of the story.

Favourite sub-character: Fu Yuan Bao! I never realized Tae was so funny...on and off screen. I like how he wasn't the typical 'Er Sai Zhu' (basically rich boy who squandered family money). His ulterior motives were actually quite noble; he was as persistent in his ideals as his father was greedy. Every Long Guang Biao and Yuan Bao face-off were hil-arious! Their rare agreements were no less funny...

YB: HQ must be nutters. Putting so much effort in studying has probably destroyed his brains.
XQ/LGB: Then it's a good thing I never put effort into studying.



I never knew 'Di Gua/Sweet Potatoe' indicated a 'dumb person' until I watched TWFX. Did people know eating excessive amounts of (for some even only a little) di gua/sweet potatoe leads to err...flatulence?



I love that scene! I was like...awwww....'Xiao Di Gua'. And when XQ said the doctor 'diagnosed a Xiao Di Gua' from her pulse, seeming to over-excitedly infer that the baby was in her pulse, SJ points out that the baby should be in her belly not pulse



He was an unbelievably big newborn! 11 pounds (normal is 6.5-7 pounds?)! Yeah, I know...fiction, but err...funny nevertheless. I thought it quite sad to think that the child would be told to do all lantern lighting, believing it would return a mother to him. Isn't it bad enough that DY is resorted to pining for XQ, shouldn't the son be left off the sad hook? It certainly is all wise and enlightened for Guan Yin to state that the child will be blessed with good fortune and be a meaningful individual, but does that equate to happiness? It sort of assumes that materialistic gains can replace love and a motherless life. I thought it was a bit presumptive for the script to 'place words in the mouth' of a recognised and respected religious figure. Even Jin Yong went so far as to alter his novels to re-establish the respect accorded to Daoist (because his LOCH storylines featured Daoist as villians). Respect and consideration is the core of cultural Chinese etiquette amigo!



I'm glad that you ended up falling for TWFX Asdsa, but I respectfully disagree to your comment. The storyline is based on 'Cowherd and Weaver'...a traditional Chinese myth on par with opera classics such as 'Butterfly Lovers', 'Justice Bao', 'Nu Wa', 'Di Nu Hua'. It's sort of comparable to Jane Austen and Shakespeare's plays...no matter how many times they are performed, they remain beloved. I suppose things may seem 'corny' when one sees repetition or focus on love and emotion? TWFX tones this down by very philosophical insights into love. Overly performing romantic love can certainly appear corny, but the aim to understand it conceptually can be a fathomless endeavour.

@kuo_xiang: Maybe checking out a Hu Ge thread may help? I imagine one would get lots of pics of him in his own thread. In what way do you think the ending seems to "cut" the story?

@thtlam: It's sad, but it's a bittersweet sadness. In fact, I find great beauty in sadness, whether in art or music. Just keep on watching



Once again, keep on watching, but if you want a spoiler...

i already open the theard but the pic can be open it..

can u sent to my PM or give me a link where i can find it...

i love to see hu ge there...

i so sorry my english not too good...

to thtlam...i dont like much the ending 'cos i cant really see their got together...
i really wish see them together as a couple...maybe even maried again..

hahaha...

but evenmore..

i still cant stop to watchin the last eps....

hahahha

Finally finish watching TWFX. Really enjoy watching this series.
Can say I like it better then LOCH (YK and MNC spoiled the show for me)

But like what kuo xiang say, i also dont the ending as it seem cut. It seem too abrupt to me.

Anyway I saw this poster from tieba who post the uncut ending. However I am unable to find any other source to confirm so maybe it just created by the poster??



It such a pity if this ending is true and have been cut. This seem like a perfect ending as it explain how Xiao 7 end up on earth.

Some points which I dont quite understand.
1) Why are they only allow to be together for 100 days.
2) Why Xiao 7 is not allow to at least see her son once.

Thanks for posting this Hectic. I have always been puzzled by the ending as well, as I remember it being mentioned that Di Gua was supposed to be a deity (??仙: I assume that's bec he's such a good character, he didn't have to suffer being reborn again and again) but thousands of years after, he's still there on earth. Oh those words are so touching I'm crying buckets. Like you though I'm wondering where the poster got this info. Is it based on the original Chinese myth (I didn't even know there was one until NuDaFu mentioned it) or did he/she see the deleted scenes?

To answer your second question, I think it's based on the perception that it would be even harder -- if not impossible -- for a mother to let go if she sees and holds her child.

On a lighter note, am I only the one who prefers Ariel as LGB as opposed to Ariel as the LOCH beggar boy? Come to think of it, I prefer LGB's look to Xiao Qi's look. I think she had a really bad make-up artist and hairstylist (oh yes, add the costume which made her look pregnant) in TWFX -- but I LOVE the series.

Off-topic:

Woohoo! Thread is moving again...

kuo_xiang: Either type in 'Hu Ge' in Google images or visit this site,

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...endID=242222678

'Cowherd and Weaver' (Niu Liang Zhi Nu) is a popular Chinese cultural story from which TWFX is based on. 'Cowherd' = Dong Yong, 'Weaver' = Xiao Qi (because she helps Dong Yong weave all that cloth to repay his servant life contract). TWXF is in line with the original myth starting from the 3rd time XQ descends from heaven to help DY.

That scene with the 7 sisters weaving the cloth...struck a cultural chord in me. Very iconic scene for the 'Cowherd and Weaver'. Although, I've noted this familiar pattern of a celestial or fantastical being completing an overwhelming task (more often than not at night) for the hero in myths and legends of many other cultures.

The compromise for their separation was that they would be allowed to meet once a year, on a bridge formed by birds that creates a pathway between heaven and earth. The night this supposedly occurs is celebrated by a festival day (my family still celebrates the festival day...not in a formal way though). There is actually a traditional belief from my maternal family's side, that water collected on this night will never go stale (to reflect the 'eternity' of the couple's love I suppose...water in Chinese sometimes features in love sayings/puns...eternally pure water? eternally pure love?). One can say 'Cowherd and Weaver' is a contemporary of 'Butterfly Lovers', where the former is a myth and latter a legend...both being references for romantic love.



Other TWFX-like dramas...



I've just done a whopper of a translation for Ariel's thread, low on brain fuels, so I can only wet everyone's appetite with the last sentence of Hectic's post...

依晨的原音旁白：“这一世，你是人，我也是人….千年的情，千年的泪，我只换这一世的缘分”

Yi Chen's original voice: "[In] this life, you are human, I am also human...Love of a thousand year, tears of a thousand years, I [will] only exchange the fate of this life"

Many beautiful phrases and philosophies...happy to do full translation at some later point.

This promised translation is long overdue, but here it is:

Tian Wai Fei Xian's Most Brilliant and Moving Parts Scrapped!

The first and un-edited version of TWFX should have been 50 episodes. Due to so and so reasons, what needed to be cut was cut, what needed to be scrapped was scrapped. The TWFX we see on TV, compared to its un-edited predecessor, had undergone great degrees of change. I don't understand why the part between 26-27 was scrapped, even more so for the ending [it seems]. I feel that the ending was cut at its climax - a big no no.

The TWFX ending that we see now, follows like this: Xiao Qi from heaven sees broken lanterns, no one is left to light them; a change of scene, amidst blue skies, we see the following line scroll across the screen "a flying romance, an unordinary love, transcending time, overcoming Heaven and Earth, a reason worth waiting for! Then, it's 2004 Shanghai, then it’s (THE END).

What was the actual, real story supposed to be? I describe the general contents/details in the following:

Xiao Qi saw nobody lighting the lanterns, seeking answers from among the celestial beings, the Jade Emperor informed her that ‘Di Gua’ father and son were already not present in the living.

After Di Gua died, not willing to reincarnate and become a celestial being, he remained faithful to the belief that Xiao Qi would still descend to the mortal world to seek him. So he persisted to become a mortal.

Grandma Meng: "Child, one 'Jia Zi' 60 years, is no more than a snap of Buddha's fingers. In the [short span] of a mortal life, how much love can one reincarnate to recover? You won't find her, give up ba".

Eyes moist, Di Gua responded: "Grandma Meng, if one can really give up, what would be the point of reincarnation?”

So, following endless cycles of reincarnation, Di Gua still [immersed himself] among mortals, painstakingly seeking his Xiao Qi… his wife.

Knowing the truth, Xiao Qi decided to return to the mortal realm…[the difference being, this time], to truly become [and stay] as a mortal. However, Jade Emperor warned Xiao Qi that [a price must be paid] to do so: Xiao Qi's imperishable [celestial] body must be ‘irrevocably extinguished'.

Jade Emperor: "You are a celestial being, you have an imperishable body, you have an indistinguishable spirit, your actions...are they worth it?"

Xiao Qi: "Royal Father, Sister Wild Cat said: Heaven's 1,000 years cannot compare with a single moment within a mortal dream".

Jade Emperor: "Even as a mortal, among the endless sea of people, you may not meet, you may not know each other, you will not have the memory of love, you..."

Xiao Qi interrupts: "The memory of love may be gone, the feeling of love remains. We have made a vow: 'Even until the ends of the skies, depths of the sea, [we will not] shame the [the pact that we share]’. Even with the threat of searching for 1,000 years, 1,000,000 years, I want to see him. Heavens may wither, the Earth may grow old, generation after generation, forever, we shall not part…”

Xiao Qi's body starts to disintegrate (not unlike Wild Cat's disappearance), memories also start to disappear. Eyes closed, with a tiny smile on her face, with Di Gua in her thoughts: Next life, you are mortal, I will also be mortal, I willingly use 1000 years of missed opportunities, in exchange for a single return glance of your eyes.

Several thousand years later, 2004 Shanghai's market street corner…

There is a "Heaven's Ends Sea's Depths" bookshop, a boy looking very much like Di Gua, accidentally bumps into a girl who looks very much like Xiao Qi. Before the girl has a chance to yell at the boy, their mobiles simultaneously ring with the same tune: "I fly in the skies, you meander along the ground; appearing to be apart, in actuality, we are together”.

While the tune plays, accompanying words flash across the LCD: "A flying romance, an unordinary love, transcending time, overcoming Heaven and Earth, a reason worth waiting for!"

Scene: Both boy and girl freeze, the girl wears a small smile. Yi Chen's original voice: "In this life, you are mortal, I am also mortal...Love of a thousand years, tears of a thousand years...I choose to exchange my fate for this life, and this life alone”.

Maybe the TWFX production crew (same as LOCH08) can steal Ariel and Hu Ge (Ariel and Hu Ge are on LOCH08 tours in China anyway) to film this lovely ending?

NuDaFu, thanks so much for the full translation. Wow, that would also have been a killer ending for TWFX... but I think it would have made me cry too much! I already cried so much *during* the series. I like actual ending of TWFX... short, sweet, hopeful and leaving plenty enough to the imagination. Dang, though, whoever wrote the ending that you translated sure knew how make a person bawl! It's so like Di Gua and Xiao Qi to give up so much to be with each other... and to wait for each other so long (though I'm sure it seemed longer to Di Gua as a mortal). Can't imagine how much more I would have cried if this actually was the ending.

I know Swim, I got all emotion-y and choked up when I read it too. The author certainly has a way with words/characters.

Even though I still prefer HuGYi's brainstorm ending - for its short, sweet and slightly indie film like quality - I really liked the 'fanficy TWFX ending' because of the...how shall I describe it...'rawness' of it. As in the emotions it evokes and the stark reality that sometimes we do have to let go in order to gain what we want. The element of sacrifice (on Di Gua's side, his opportunity for enlightment and on Xiao Qi's side, her right of immortality...hehehe Xiao Qi's predicament reminded me of



really highlighted the persistence of both to be together with each other.

Forgot to add to the translation, 'Grandmother Meng' according to Chinese cultural myth, is an old lady at the crossroads of the underworld who supposedly gives all spirits a bowl of soup that erases all mortal memory...so that one can happily and blissfully enter the next life without the troubles of the past? I imagine Di Gua wouldn't have been to willing to forget Xiao Qi...there goes the 'amnesia soup' into the nearest pot plant...hehehe

And after Yi Chen's line has ended, Hu Ge follows with...

Hu Ge's original voice: You stole my ringtone!!!

thanks so much for posting the uncut ending. It makes more sense now, rather than just bumping into each other on the streets.

I think the costumes and effects not as nice as the china produced LOCH with both of them as leads too

So in the end in the 21st century, does Dong Yong know who he was thousands of years ago?
Does he remember he and XiaoQi was very much in love and the memories they shared?
Or was he reborn and he just have a love at first sight at Ariel who said "Its him" since she remembered he is DongYong?

^Di Gua was basically reborn and has no memory of his past lives. And I think that both of them have this special bond that sorta connects them together. Therefore when they see each other there is this familiar filling. And I guess Ariel sorta know.

Oh wow, thanks for the original ending. I think although I would have cried more, it would have been nice to see more of them especially in the 21st century. And that finally explains how Xiao Qi became mortal.

What they should do is film a sequel of them in this century.

Ohh thanks yanyan. So xiaoqi actually knew he was 'di gua' right?

YES MODERN CONTINUOUS TIAN WAI FEI XIAN !!!!!!!

I am also annoyed by the ending. The story would have be closed off very nicely after their 100 days together. This meeting after hundred of years later serve no purpose at all.

I hope they can act in a modern movie or drama...I really love them in TWFX & LOCH'08....I want to see them together in reel and real life...

I love this drama! It is very enjoyable to watch!..

Hello~

I am currently watching this series on mysoju and there's apparently only 30 eps. But when I google the series, there are websites that state that there are 40+ eps or 39 eps.. Just wondering how many episodes there are really.. Can someone please clarify this?

And I'm currently watching Ep 28 on mysoju and the 4th part seems to be an incorrect video.. Can anyone direct me to a download or onlinse streaming of Ep 28? Really wanna know what happened... T__T

Thanks! ^^