zhiai5566
Jan 26 2006 1 48 AM
oh well~ i wanna get it anyways~ cos it is a must have for jstar fans~ i wonder when yesasia will have it up!! err~ can't wait to buy it already~ i'm hoping that yesasia will include the pplaying cards,, they usually do include the bonus things and this time shouldn't be any different
edit: i just saw it on yesasia! and in the contents, it says that it will come with the playing cards and the hongbaos~ but the bad thing is, that it's set to release on the 27th, so it probably won't be here for the first few days of cny, but good thing cny is 15 dyas! hehe
dreamstar
Jan 26 2006 3 07 AM
I just listened to it, and I find many of the Remix isnt a proper remix.. after listening to wilber's remix album.. jstars' remix is just way different.. but hey.. I loved the feng yun bian se remix.. that is just heaps coooool!! and theres another one that isnt bad.. chuan shuo i think.. i love the xin nian kuai le song xD soooo cute.. hmm n what else..
Im just wondering.. you know how each song have a name of a city?? Im wondering if they sent the original song to people around the world and ask them to mix... =P maybe my imagination went to far heh? =P maybe they just mix it with that city's styles.. I want the bonus =( does the poker cards comes with their faces? like top on forbidden city's poker cards?
zhiai5566
Jan 26 2006 6 05 AM
the poker cards are exactly like the TOFC ones~~ except new pictures and everything~ and new people! cos jstars have acquired some new people over the years~ can't wait to get my copy~
i don't think they asked people from each city to remix them.. lol
mmitsjojo
Jan 26 2006 6 08 AM
omg i think the album kinda sucks, i was like so excitied about it when i was downloading when it was done i was listening to it i was like what the hell . .. its like all music BARELY any words, like some but very lil but then the new years song was pretty good. yeahhs
shiesse
Jan 28 2006 2 11 AM
I'll have to say that I'm kinda disappointed with Love Miracle 2, especially because the remixes weren't done properly. Furthermore, a lot of remixes had music overpowering the vocals and it made the quality sound bad. But I really love Xin Nian Kuai Le(:
uraresol
Jan 28 2006 2 47 AM
hmm...im thinking of buying the 'ai de qi ji 2' too...i hope the remix wont be too bad but my main reason i want to buy is bcos of the pokercards! i rmb on wqyl shaowei was advertising it and said it has each of the jstars pic on the cards...im wondering will the the cd will come with the pokercards for s'pore? or issit for taiwan only or maybe just for a limited time?? any singaporeans bought it already??
0r4ng3
Jan 28 2006 2 44 PM
yeah, i'm kind of disappointed when i listen to their remix..
it's not really a good remix, but ooh well, the best sstill the chinese new year songs, it's just so cute...love it
Gi-Ma-Mi
Jan 28 2006 8 47 PM
Hey guys, i'm uploading 2 new clips(01-27-06) of J-stars into my clubbox(look for my signature)
i don't know chinese so i don't know the exact title to name them but i guess it's J-stars-reunion for the Lunar New Year
QiaoEn is very cute in here
right now, my computer is so slow so i can only uploaded part 1 but i'll try to get part2 done as soon as possible
enjoy
Here is the screencap of part 1:

and the screencap of part 2:
hilaria
Jan 28 2006 9 20 PM
i have to say that i'm a little disappointed too for love miracle 2 album.. maybe because i don't like remix but i really enjoy hearing CNY song..
of course it doesn't make me stop to support 5566 =)
smilanny
Jan 28 2006 10 01 PM
ahh i want the poker cards, i saw Ming Dao's one in his thread and it looks so cool... i love the Xing Nian Kuai Le song! it's really cute ^^ about the remixes... i'm kinda disappointed too but some are not bad. i like 5566's "Shou Hou".
the Jstar TV special on TTV is a must watch! it's a making of the MV, they talk about their New Year wishes etc.
Love Miracle 2 is the first on G-Music's top chart, combo and mandarin
http://www.g-music.com.tw/GMusicBillboard1.aspxhttp://www.g-music.com.tw/GMusicBillboard0.aspx
gialian
Jan 30 2006 3 05 AM
I can't wait to get my new year money into the bank so I can get it lol w00t...
I saw the jstar party clip and the MV... so awesome... it just made me love all of them even more... even though renfu scared me a little bit lol (when he popped out during typhoon's part and when he was dancing with mengzhe at the end hahaha)
but I was just wondering... I saw what I think is a new group?... VJ...
Does anyone have any information on them? Who are they, etc etc?
cuddlybear
Jan 30 2006 4 32 AM
QUOTE (gialian @ Jan 30 2006 10 05 AM)

I can't wait to get my new year money into the bank so I can get it lol w00t...
I saw the jstar party clip and the MV... so awesome... it just made me love all of them even more... even though renfu scared me a little bit lol (when he popped out during typhoon's part and when he was dancing with mengzhe at the end hahaha)
but I was just wondering... I saw what I think is a new group?... VJ...
Does anyone have any information on them? Who are they, etc etc?

they are long ago in Jungiery but i dont think they have a album yet. they help to write many songs and help the singers in Jungiery in their vocal something like a vocal teacher.
that is so far what i know about them, but i may be wrong.
Yup! cuddlybear is right! VJ have been helping Jstar artist produce albums and some of the songs are written and composed by VJ themselves. Hopefully they would be releasing their album this year! They are so talented its just a waste if they don't release an album this year.
lilchinkybabi
Jan 30 2006 7 14 AM
Yeah, VJ sang "Not Brave Enough" (Bu Gou Yong Gan), which is a song in the Wang Zi Bian Qing Wa OST.
*lingalicious*
Jan 30 2006 9 05 AM
QUOTE (gialian @ Jan 30 2006 10 05 AM)

I can't wait to get my new year money into the bank so I can get it lol w00t...
I saw the jstar party clip and the MV... so awesome... it just made me love all of them even more... even though renfu scared me a little bit lol (when he popped out during typhoon's part and when he was dancing with mengzhe at the end hahaha)
really? which part was it?
QUOTE (gialian @ Jan 30 2006 10 05 AM)

but I was just wondering... I saw what I think is a new group?... VJ...
Does anyone have any information on them? Who are they, etc etc?

they are called victor and james. james is the elder brother of jacky, who is in 183 club. victor is his friend i think...not very sure. anyway, please read around the other threads for example 183 club thread or the wzbqw thread so that you will get ur questions answered.
uraresol
Jan 31 2006 8 47 AM
http://www.jungiery.com/event/0601atm/index.htmdoes this means we can be members of the jungiery website by just purchasing the cards thru online??
shiesse
Jan 31 2006 2 35 PM
QUOTE (uraresol @ Jan 31 2006 3 47 PM)

http://www.jungiery.com/event/0601atm/index.htmdoes this means we can be members of the jungiery website by just purchasing the cards thru online??
I'm not really sure, but I always thought you could only access the Jungiery website features by buying J-stars products which come with the membership details. But it seems like you can do the same by purchasing those cards online actually. Not too sure- you better get a second opinion first.
sleepysa
Jan 31 2006 2 55 PM
QUOTE (uraresol @ Jan 28 2006 9 47 AM)

hmm...im thinking of buying the 'ai de qi ji 2' too...i hope the remix wont be too bad but my main reason i want to buy is bcos of the pokercards! i rmb on wqyl shaowei was advertising it and said it has each of the jstars pic on the cards...im wondering will the the cd will come with the pokercards for s'pore? or issit for taiwan only or maybe just for a limited time?? any singaporeans bought it already??
i bought it already~! yep..most of the remix were disappointing.. but the cny song was wonderful.. it also comes with the hong bao of either jstars/5566/183/7flowers.. plus the poker cards... however, i realised sth, how cum the poker cards are missing out on kone? gino, liyang, kido and jr's faces are missing leh.. is it only mine cards or u guys are also missing out on kone's logo and faces?
mzdeviL
Jan 31 2006 3 10 PM
I realized that too! I was going to order 'Love Miracle 2' at yesasia mainly because I wanted the poker cards, but after I saw that K One was not included, I changed my mind, I don't think I would want to buy it anymore...I'm a HUGE fan of K One, and if they are not included in the cards, then there is NO WAY I'm gonna buy it!
#Chili Stock Market#
Feb 1 2006 3 45 AM
What's love miracle 2 about....I'm a big fan of K one too!
sweetcandeeh
Feb 5 2006 1 35 AM
can you only buy this album only online to recieve the cards? What are the cards? Just plain cards?
mzdeviL
Feb 5 2006 2 27 AM
they're normal playing cards except they have pictures of the j-stars printed on each card (except for K One

), it comes with the album, so u will get it either u buy it online or in the stores.
5566_XieZhi
Feb 5 2006 5 18 AM
Can't wait the album to out in indonesia.
I want the card
dreamstar
Feb 5 2006 8 18 AM
where did you guys find out that K-One isnt featured??
thats weird.. if its cyndi, ill accept that since her contract with jungiery is ending..
maybe kone wasnt there for the picture taking.. but they should be included anyway *shrugs*
mzdeviL
Feb 5 2006 9 09 AM
QUOTE (dreamstar @ Feb 5 2006 6 18 PM)

where did you guys find out that K-One isnt featured??
Some people who bought the album confirmed that K One were not featured on the cards...I also saw a pic of the actual box those cards were stored in, and apparently, there was no picture of K One on the box (except for Darren; but he was part of 'Typhoon' on the cards).
zhiai5566
Feb 5 2006 7 32 PM
yeah it's really weird that k one isn't part of the cards..maybe they want to promote the younger groups more~ dunnoo`
uraresol
Feb 6 2006 9 43 AM
grrr....k-one not in the cards...the cards would have been great if they actually feature ALL the jstars...how can they say it is jstar cards when theres no k-one???
the music is...err..there is more music than singing...but not too bad....
does anyone has links to d/l westside story not in bt form?? there is no way i'll be able to watch on chU at 1.30am on sat
chewwy
Feb 6 2006 10 56 AM
why isin't Kone in the cardsss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not having them in it is definiyely a bummer... Btw are the cards available in malaysia?
mzdeviL
Feb 6 2006 1 24 PM
Maybe someone should contact jungiery and ask Sun Zong himself exactly why K One were not featured, I'm sure many fans would want to know what the reason is...I know I surely want an explanation
nanshi
Feb 7 2006 3 49 AM
Hey I've got a question for everyone...
But do you guys think that there's a bizarre tendency to fall in love with ALL the Jstars once you love just one of them or a certain group? Like they grow on you?
I know, that myself, I'd never heard of 183club or 7flowers, or even KOne or many of the Jstars, but 5566 did catch my eye...and then I started watching stuff with them, and then that introduced me to WZBQW (cause GDTW--> WZBQW--> AQMFS--> etc) and eventually I was brought into the world of Jungiery. Cause to be perfectly honestly...I don't really like much of the OTHER Taiwanese celebs quite as much as I love the jstars. I mean, I like Wilber Pan Wei Buo well enough and Rainie Yang (as simply singers)...but I'm not really into the others... is that the same for everyone else? Like you obsess over the Jstars and very little else?
I think I'm phrasing this too awkwardly, but I find myself uninterested in any other Taiwanese celebs (of course there ARE exceptions) other than the Jstars... primarily...
Anyone else feel the same?
md_1980
Feb 7 2006 5 44 AM
for me...it did makes me take note of the other jungiery stars dramas or when they are on variety shows..
I did watch SNTGD before i knew Mingdao & 183club....I watched because the gameshow was so funny....making my days with their comical acts....
After WZBQW, i begin to notice other jungiery stars......watched Top of the forbidden city.....and realised that Jungiery stars acting are not bad.....and begin to admire Sun zhong for knowing how to train them before letting them release album or be lead actor/actress in the drama...
Though my focus will still be on Mingdao and 183club, but at least now i know about 70-80% of the names of the stars in jungiery....

' (previously it's only 5566)
gialian
Feb 7 2006 6 16 AM
yea... I like didn't even know who J-stars were... I knew Cyndi and Ming Dao from Tian Guo (but I didn't know they were jstar), and semi-knew 5566 from Xi Jie, but I didn't really like them that much because I was a huge huge F4 fan (still am...) and you know the whole initial F4/5566 rivalry and sun zhong or something like...
but as I found out more and more, they began to grow on me... and then I watched GDTW, and then started watching WQYL, SNTGD and random little clips of them and started loving all the jstars and now I'm totally obsessed, and they've been added to my little list of taiwan artists
I dunno but ya... it's hard not to evnetually know or even like/obsess with most of the jstars once you know one...

but ya... that really sucks that K One isn't in the cards =\
why?! =( *sigh*

there's enought cards to go around aren't there?! lol
smilanny
Feb 7 2006 11 33 AM
it's kind of the same for me...
in the beginning, i only knew 5566, then i discovered they were in "Jungiery" with lots of other artists. i thought "wow it's like in HK, they are a big family" etc. lol (ahh but i knew Johnny and Toro before 56). at the same time WZBQW aired and i grew an interest in 183 Club and 7F.
later, i was watching WQYL with KOne promoting "Love Power". i fell in love with them lol (because i didn't know them very well)... i began to love Typhoon more when they released their debut album. and i've grown an interest in LaLa, Tai Ji by watching Jstar's shows.
i agree once you like one group you'll like the others!
lol that's my story

now i'm a big fan of Jstars, but there are other Taiwanese artists that i like as well

Sun Zhong is really smart! his company is so popular now, and all of them are really talented.
*lingalicious*
Feb 7 2006 12 59 PM
Yes. I agree with ALL of you people! Haha...I also used to like 5566 only, then SNTGD, and from Sam, it linked to WZBQW linking to Mingdao, who makes me crazy now. Mingdao link to 183 club. Reminding me of YXS who acted in Ren Wo Au You in Singapore. I recognised him. Then through 183 club i learnt of K-one, 7F and typhoon(toro). Then from WZBQW, Lala came into sight, and Jiaen became another interest.
And then it goes on and on and on. haha. Taichi I havent go and see yet. Maybe next time.
angelazangel
Feb 7 2006 3 21 PM
me love k one!
i'm actually not the same with alot of u to be honest...i just like k one!

i'm not really that interested in the other j-stars, 183 and 5566 are ok i guess...apart from k one, the other j-stars i like are sam wang (5566/183) and zax wang (5566) and that's it really...i'm actually more drawn to artists in 'comic ritz'; rainie yang, jay chou, show luo etc...
summer88
Feb 7 2006 5 56 PM
elo everyone ... i dunno they got release new album le ... can i noe the latest
album new year jstar ... only cd? no vcd ... because i love the cny song wif mv ... is
was very nice n everyone was so cute ... y they use back the title 'love miracle' n
juz only add 2 there?
angelazangel
Feb 8 2006 3 50 AM
the new year album has the cd and a pack of playing card, no vcd.
i guess they title it 'love miracle 2' is probably because they named last year's new year cd 'love miracle', and since this year's is the second new year album released, they added a '2' to the title.
zhiai5566
Feb 8 2006 4 18 AM
i'm kind of the same as all you~ i was first introduced to 56, but that time, jstars didn't really exist as they are now, but when they were introduced, i started to notice them and like them easier than other stars~ by easier, i mean that i didn't need a reason to like them~ if i knew they were jstars, i automaticaly had a good feeling towards them~ and i guess that's the point of jungiery~
the new years video is atcually indluced on the cd~ it's the first track
habukie
Feb 8 2006 5 53 AM
i just watched the j-star show with them filming all that stuff about the new year's song. it's hilarious! especially the members of 5566...they're incredibly funny, like messing with everyone all the time. 7flowers is really funny, too. i feel like they're outnumbered since they're the only girls.
gialian
Feb 8 2006 6 10 AM
QUOTE (crazylinda100 @ Feb 7 2006 9 33 PM)

zhiai5566 - I didn't quite understand post...what do u mean by "i was first introduced to 56, but that time, jstars didn't really exist as they are now"? Do u mean that when u first came to notice 5566, u didn't know they were under Jungiery?
Actually, I think what zhiai5566 meant was that when 5566 was introduced Jstars weren't as they are now, because since they've "started" 5566 has pretty much been there, and 7flower cut down, R&B completely disassembled, Darren joined Typhoon (typhoon formed, lol), Taiji, Done-Oh Lala formed, Done-oh was added to Jungiery... cyndi I think is leaving jungiery? or i think her contract is about to be up... and a whole bunch of other stuff...
But ya... I think maybe that's what's zhiai5566 meant because jstars has changed quite just I guess within the last year or two?
but ya... has anyone watched shaowei's (sam) interview thing with wang yue? omgosh... i just... i know he had a serious side, but wow... i love shaowei ^^
nanshi
Feb 8 2006 3 59 PM
QUOTE (chewwy @ Feb 8 2006 2 08 AM)

I'm falling in love with J stars =P they're like Smtown~~
HAHA Yeah! I feel exactly the same way about Jstars! I think Sun Zhong is a really smart guy, I don't know what he does with his stars, but he seems to get people with really really good talent. I think, like SM-town, he spends a lot of time training his stars (like years maybe) before finally releasing them into doing stuff...and he probably encourages them all to be very natural and very much themselves... plust the entire company does a lot of stuff together, so they get a very familial bond. It looks like Jungiery and SMtown both take hints from Japanese production/management agencies-- I know somewhere that Jungiery was based off an extremely sucessful Japanese management compnay and I'm assuming SMtown is the same (since most of SMtown's members have been sucessfully introduced into the jpop world). And since (to be honest) the jpop subculture is probably the most pan-Asia sucessful culture.
5566_XieZhi
Feb 8 2006 5 51 PM
I'm curious how sun zhong got all of their artist before he trained them.
Maybe i could apply to be the one of jungiery? hahaha, just kidding and also it's impossible. Wow i admire all the work of Mr. Sun, maybe he has the most successful
management agencies in Taiwan nowaday. But i kinda regret that sun zhong always
put artist who already belong to a group, like shao wei and darren, not because they're
bad, but it like he don't give his artist time to break, like shao wei, he only get like 2 days of holiday for CNY while the other 5566 members have like a week holiday.
nanshi
Feb 8 2006 10 30 PM
QUOTE (5566_XieZhi @ Feb 8 2006 11 51 AM)

I'm curious how sun zhong got all of their artist before he trained them.
Maybe i could apply to be the one of jungiery? hahaha, just kidding and also it's impossible. Wow i admire all the work of Mr. Sun, maybe he has the most successful
management agencies in Taiwan nowaday. But i kinda regret that sun zhong always
put artist who already belong to a group, like shao wei and darren, not because they're
bad, but it like he don't give his artist time to break, like shao wei, he only get like 2 days of holiday for CNY while the other 5566 members have like a week holiday.
I know there are a handful of 'entertainment' schools in Taiwan. The Taiwanese school structure works like the japanese (and most Asian) ones...unlike America. In Taiwan, once you're out of middle school, you start applying for high schools. Most high schools are 'known' for something or the other. Like some high schools feature in the entertainment business-- so they train you in singing, acting, performance, etc...stuff that you'd need to know to enter the entertainment world (but not necessarily become an idol, like being a news anchor...anything like that), other high schools are vocational and you can train for a specific job, like nursing or computer programming or something. And I know that's where he picked up Wang renfu, JR, mengzhe, and XiaoJie. I think it's just holding open call auditions to seek new talent. A lot of the Jstars and 'models turned idols' too. Like Shaowei and Mingdao were models before entering the showbiz, and I know Jacky Zhu was probably introduced by his brother (who's also a jstar).
And I don't think sun zhong necessarily puts all his artists in many groups to make them all exhausted.. but he puts them in groups maybe to highlight them? I know Toro insisted on Darren entering Typhoon, and Shaowei was supposed to have a really really busy year anyways, with the major sucess of 183 and WZBQW.. -

'
sleepysa
Feb 9 2006 2 04 AM
QUOTE (angelzangel @ Feb 8 2006 10 50 AM)

the new year album has the cd and a pack of playing card, no vcd.
umm.. for me, the cd is an avcd.. that means there's a bonus mv too. It's the mv of the cny song.. not cut one.. perhaps u might want to check if ur cd has it.
Anyway, any1 got the hongbao of 5566 or 183 or Jstars? Cos mine was 7flowers...
for the cover of the jstars album2, is there any significance in the size of their pictures? Cos it's like.. starting from the biggest, it's like, 5566 and 183 club, followed by 7flowers, then typhoon and kone, then taiji, doneoh-lala, and vj... is it based on their seniority?
And... yep..i agree with u all.. the jstars always portray themselves as a big family, supporting one another.. it's very smart of sun zhong to promote this olympics thing..cos it sort of shows how harmonious and fun loving the jstars are... anyway, is it true that when 5566 started, they were the only band group in jstars? the rest were individuals like qiaoen, xiaoqiao, mingdao, toro?
Also, i find that they always support one another.. for eg, 5566's mv, if there's a need for a female, they'll ask 7f.. then to promote their junior, they even included taiji.. so i guess it's like to promote them to the audience b4 they come out their 1st album.. so that's how i got to know 7f..thru 5566's c'est si bon mv.. as well as taiji and 183 club(cos of shaowei..haha)...for the rest of the grp...i'll still support them... cos they are jstars!
zhiai5566
Feb 9 2006 2 05 AM
QUOTE (crazylinda100 @ Feb 7 2006 8 33 PM)

zhiai5566 - I didn't quite understand post...what do u mean by "i was first introduced to 56, but that time, jstars didn't really exist as they are now"? Do u mean that when u first came to notice 5566, u didn't know they were under Jungiery?
lol~ sorry for the misunderstadning~ i meant when i was first intorduced to 56, which was about 3 years ago, jstars weren't as promoted as they are now~ before, 7 flowers didn't even exist! and neither did 183 club~
instead there was groups like t-rush and R&B, which are broken up now~ 7 flower's xiao qiao and qiaoen were individuals and so was 183's mingdao and yan xing shu~ they didn't exist as groups yet.
wow` jstars really have come a long wya!
success always comes with a price right? sunzhong's doing his best to promote all the stars` so that people will notice them more~ like beofre shaowei was part of 183 club, people didn't really ntice him in 56~
nanshi
Feb 9 2006 2 37 AM
QUOTE (crazylinda100 @ Feb 8 2006 8 16 PM)

Possibly...but I thought K One was formed before Typhoon! Was I wrong?
I'm pretty sure you're correct in thinking that KOne was formed before Typhoon, but Typhoon has Toro, and he's been a really critical piece in Jungiery since the very beginning. Heck, there was even that mini-scandal with him and ZaiZai, and she was forced to leave Jungiery and Toro stayed...so it's obvious that he's very important to Sun Zhong. If my memory serves me correct, he (like VJ and others) compose a lot of songs for other groups. Plus... I think Typhoon has been around for awhile, but they've never come out with anything because *according to a news report from a few months ago* they were still searching for that 'perfect third member' until they finally hit Darren (right under their noses and all!)
But don't quote me on this, I'm not sure if I'm right... but it makes a bit of sense...?
angelazangel
Feb 9 2006 5 15 AM
a question for anyone who is very familiar with j-stars...apart from toro, who else writes songs for the other j-stars? i know li yang (k one) wrote 1 song for typhoon, but is there any other j-stars who actually write many songs like toro? i heard tony (5566) writes many songs...don't know if it's true.
sleepysa
Feb 9 2006 5 18 AM
QUOTE (angelzangel @ Feb 9 2006 12 15 PM)

a question for anyone who is very familiar with j-stars...apart from toro, who else writes songs for the other j-stars? i know li yang (k one) wrote 1 song for typhoon, but is there any other j-stars who actually write many songs like toro? i heard tony (5566) writes many songs...don't know if it's true.
i think vj also write songs? and i think they are the producers..together with toro i think...
tony wrote songs? haha.. didn't noe that...
angelazangel
Feb 9 2006 5 32 AM
thanks 'sleepysa'...as for tony...i don't know, i just heard from someone that he also writes songs...although i get the feeling that it's not true...
dreamstar
Feb 9 2006 10 58 AM
li yang also write some songs.. and i know whole kone wrote yong gan qu ai.. qiaoen wrote say you love me too.. for tony, he only wrote one song, tong yi ge shi jie and thats it.
first I'm exposed to 5566 in the end of 2001, jungiery is not quite there yet, 5566 is the ONLY group in the whole company (no kidding!) and qiaoen and xiaoqiao is just individuals.. and i know cyndi because she was a singer, and jason was featured in her MV once.. but i didnt really realize that she's a Jstar as well until later. I knew qiaoen through MVP and i knew xiaoqiao through 5566's shen hua MV..
then comes along R&B. R&B was pretty good, released one album.. and then from there KOne comes to the picture.. KOne was already a group before they come into jungiery though.. I remember my friend seeing their CD and said they got a similar style with 5566. And I remember not liking them at the first time because news reports makes them sounds so arrogant [not coorperative during the filming of TOFC].
After that, i 7F is out first.. they sang at TOTFC but their voice sounds really rough. Then 183 is formed just before TGDJY series.. and then followed by Typhoon.. R&B disbanded and eventually LALA is formed.. then VJ came..
I think thats the main history overall.. of course theres things like people leaving groups and moving groups, joining groups and all.. LOL~
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