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Just Wondering....give your opinions....don't bash on me though...i started this along time ago so yep yep....i know its too soon to compare but yeah...


Jang Ri In
16 years old
known as the "chinese boa"
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OR

Boa Kwon
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my opinion is that Jang Ri In has a lovely voice...
her song TIMELESS is AWSOME...
i cannot get enough of it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve4xo9GeETM
check it out....
this is just a preview..
but as i am writing this i am listening to this song....
great duet with Xiah Junsu....
LOVE HER...


noe not to offend any boa fans but i think jang ri in has a more nicer and beautiful voice than boa does.
no doubt boa has a good voice also but just listen to this girl.
and she's only 16...
its just amazing...
i think she is going to make it big...


oh and also i'm just wondering what you guys think because jang ri in is known as the "chinese boa" so yeah don't take this the wrong way...
xbunnylicious
I don't even know why they named her Chinese BoA in the first place. I personally think Jang Ri In kinda has more of the R&B thing in her while BoA is poppish. I can't choose who I like better since I've don't listen to much BoA songs but I'm a fan of Jang Ri In =]
loveartiste
We; you cannot already ask who is better
they are both artists; and BoA has many years under her belt
and fans too; and albums
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i mean she just debuted; just a single
she has a beautiful voice
but i dont think we should be comparing them already
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and yea i hope she makes it big too
----yangGURL
QUOTE(xbunnylicious @ Sep 4 2006 5 14 PM) [snapback]2898292[/snapback]

I don't even know why they named her Chinese BoA in the first place. I personally think Jang Ri In kinda has more of the R&B thing in her while BoA is poppish. I can't choose who I like better since I've don't listen to much BoA songs but I'm a fan of Jang Ri In =]



thats true but for some reason she is called the chinese boa...
i don't know why either...

QUOTE(loveartiste @ Sep 4 2006 6 38 PM) [snapback]2898614[/snapback]

We; you cannot already ask who is better
they are both artists; and BoA has many years under her belt
and fans too; and albums
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i mean she just debuted; just a single
she has a beautiful voice
but i dont think we should be comparing them already
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and yea i hope she makes it big too




yeah true...
but i'm just wondering who you guys think is better...
and yeah also because people always
be comparing stars anyways....
like how they did it with boa and britney spears...
but yeah oh well
ahaha
711
it's kinda unfair to compare them.. cuz jang ri in just debuted... and no one can compare to boa... and her success.. .. jang ri in is very beautiful and is really talented.. iam sure she'll be successful too
.Lolly-Pop*
I think it's too early to compare the both of them but both of them had great voice and were in the showbiz when they were so young biggrin.gif
I sorta prefer Jang's voice because she has strong vocal, I think she was named as Chinese BoA because SM wanted her to be known as Chinese BoA & her duet with Xiah is super nice ^^.
But both of them are great when comes to singing, hope Jang Ri In will make it big
cutie_bratz14
yeah its too early to be comparing them
plus .. comparing them ... it would be hard
boa has been in the business for ... 5/6 years..
and jang ri in has just debuted...
jang ri in .. yes .. she's a great singer..jang ri in's voice is really impressive for a 16 yr old ..
but boa is also a great singer... and dancer too
Quincy_ting
now this is a hard one.. and besides..Jang Ri In and BoA are totally different.. but then...

personally, for a newcomer like Jang Ri In..it is indeed really impressive for her. She has this beautiful powerful voice and a gorgeous face. I fell in love with her the first time in just a snap! i remember i really dont like BoA when i first saw her (well..i do now btw..)

and having Xiah Junsu of DBSK as her duet partner for her debut song Timeless...that was just..a...WOW!!!!! shocked.gif im pretty sure she'll make it big!

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Love... HEROINE (Ricca)
SM's best asset is their marketing abilities.
they called her the Chinese BoA to generate interest...

anyway, i like BoA more. while her voice is not the best, i'm more familiar with her and her music is more suited to my ears... but i agree, Jang Ri In's voice is really nice...

however, who knows how much they changed it from her original voice. or whatever. i mean, she can sound good on one song but sound bad on another. but i have high hopes for her! she has potential. :]
i NO longer lurve Paris Hilton
If i've not mistaken BoA is also 15 or 16 yrs old when she debuted in Japan. Its impressive cuz she debuted and got popular not in her own country but another country, its not easy for Korean singers to b popular in Japan. besides BoA, i cant think of any Korean female singer that have half of BoA's fame in Japan.

But, listening to Jang Ri In's 1st single, i love it! Her voice is amazing, especially when she's hitting those high notes.

we shouldn't compare them cuz Jang Ri Rin have only 1 single out whereas BoA already achieve major sucess in across Asia. maybe after a few yrs we can start comparing.
skyside
I love both of them. Although Zhang Ri In is known as Chinese BoA but in my opinion, both of them have their very own personality and their styles are different. BoA is more like a pop song singer. I will listen to her song when I am in that mood. Zhang Ri In is different. She has a powerful voice and amazingly, I keep on repeat her song everyday. I wont get enough of it. Wow!!!
diana©
I don't even see why they labeled Jang Ri In as the 'Chinese BoA'. In my opinion, they have really FEW similarities. Also, I think that their style of music is different. blink.gif

But for now, I'd have to choose... Jang Ri In.

I've gotten tired of BoA through the years.
smellslikepooh
LOL they call her the *air quotes* "Chinese BoA" because she's Chinese, as for the BoA part, it's just like calling BoA the "Korean Britney Spears". LOL or did everyone already know that? PS: the guy from her video is Chinese as well - HanKyung (spelling?) of Super Junior.
hightech
THE REAL BOA OF COURSE!! how can u compare a chinese boa to the real one =\
ComingTrue
you could hear in the song Timeless that Jang Ri In has amazingly powerful voice, and she is only 16...but I don't really like the Timeless, don't know why though....BoA has a very nice voice to...(no offence) but I never really liked BoA....I don't like, that they are calling Jang Ri In "the chinese BoA"...just they some people in here already said, it's not right to compare people....^^
writer1986
I wish people would stop comparing BoA and Zhang Li Yin. I LOVE both the girls and I respect them but I hate how people compare them. Both girls have obvious differences and people should respect that. I've always liked BoA and I wish the best of luck to Li Yin.
Pinkypoo
Voice : Yi LIN
look : boa is a little prettier
dance : I don't know

.... But I think zhang Li yin is better
jay4ella
take it this way...

jang ri in is like christina aguilera, while boa is like britney
they both have nice voices but one is more soulful and the other is more hip hop
lilac_rain
I choose BOA over Jang Ri In. I admit she may have a powerful voice than boa, but boa's delivery is *much better* - i think boa is like the complete package. But I do think that it isn't right to compare the two b/c boa is pop and jang ri in is more r&b. Jang Ri In has a LOT of potential, but personally I think she needs a lot of work on her live performances because I have yet to be impressed by a live performance (all the ones I've seen - she can't stay with a pitch...like she's trying to hard - but her voice is amazing, she just needs more work)
Sweetwind23
How can you compare Jang Ri In with Boa?? They are totally in different league right now!
Boa's the most popular/known artist across Asia, while Jang Ri In JUst came out!

Also, people keep saying "give Jang Ri In a break, she's only 16 years old!" but remember Boa already got her fame across Asia (especially in Japan) when she was about 16 years old, and remember Boa broke through Japanese music industry when she was 15 years old.

It's like comparing an extremly well known artist with an almost unknown artist... Besides Koreans and CHinese, who else know Jang Li In at this point? (well, i guess except for DBSK's fans across Asia, cause she did sing with Xiah)

I do think Jang Ri In has a great/powerful Voice and she has potential to be (maybe similar in fame or beyond Boa's fame) but I think it's TOO Early right now to compare her to Boa... Tell this to Boa's fans, they will be offended.

Boa also has great voice! she has a beautiful voice. and there aren't alot of pop-female-artist across the world (actually i can't think of any) that can sing LIVE and dance like Boa....

THere's a reason why Boa got to be so well=known! Also, I read it in recent Japanese newspaper that said, no other foreign artist ever had so much impact on Japan like Boa did.

So my point is... I think it's way too early to compare these two great singers! maybe 3 or 4 years later??

LISTEN TO MY HEART era - First Japanese album
Cover of BoA's Japanese debut album, LISTEN TO MY HEARTThe recording contract that BoA signed with avex trax resulted in her foray into the Japanese music industry. In 2001 she released her first single in the country, which was the Japanese version of ID; Peace B. Although the single debuted at only #20 on the Oricon chart, it received wide-spread publicity as BoA was a young foreigner with phenomenal dancing skills for her age. ID; Peace B was followed by subsequent singles Amazing Kiss (#23), 気持ちはつたわる (Kimochi wa Tsutawaru) (#15), and LISTEN TO MY HEART (#5). The single LISTEN TO MY HEART catapulted BoA into the spotlight (as few foreigners ever break into the top five of Japanese charts) and went on to sell over 180,000 copies. Finally, her much anticipated Japanese debut album, LISTEN TO MY HEART, was released on March 13, 2002. On the shoulders of the lead single, LISTEN TO MY HEART, the album debuted at #1 on the Oricon chart and would chart in the Oricon Top 200 for 91 weeks and go on to sell over 932,000 copies domestically and over 1,300,000 copies worldwide. This was a surprise not only because it was BoA's debut and she was a foreigner in Japan, but also because the album's release was during the 2002 World Cup, where competitive tension existed between Japan and South Korea. On the same day as the album's release, BoA's fifth single Every Heart -ミンナノキモチ- (minna no kimochi, everybody's feelings) was released. The song was the ending theme for the hit anime series InuYasha; the single peaked at #10 on the charts.

[edit] VALENTI era - Second Japanese album
Cover of BoA's second Korean Album on the back, NO.1After stellar album sales in both South Korea and Japan, BoA continued releasing singles in anticipation for her second Japanese album, including Don't Start Now (#17), a "special single" featuring a Japanese edition of the promotional track of her Korean mini album, Don't Start Now, and her biggest hit single Valenti. It peaked at #2 on the charts, her highest showing on the singles chart at the time, and would go on to sell over 200,000 copies. Valenti was quickly followed by two more hit singles: 奇蹟 (kiseki)/ NO.1 (#3), JEWEL SONG / BESIDE YOU –僕を呼ぶ声–(boku wo yobu koe) (#3). On January 29, 2003, her second full studio album VALENTI was released which combined the success of her previous Japanese album and hit #1 on the charts (with over 615,000 copies sold in the first week of release [these high first week debut sales were ranked as the 83rd highest of all time in Japan in a list compiled in January of 2006]). It became BoA's best selling Japanese album, selling over 1,250,000 copies domestically (making her the highest and fastest selling Asian foreigner in Japanese history) and 1,400,000 copies worldwide. After topping the album charts for two weeks in a row, VALENTI put BoA in the spotlight of the Japanese music scene with other superstars such as Ayumi Hamasaki and Utada Hikaru. The album's live tour was sold out in Osaka and Nagoya within 15 minutes while Tokyo sold out within a day.[citation needed] The album would go on to become one of the top five selling albums of the year in Japan.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BoA for more information on BOa
vicesofvirtues
Age shouldn't be a defining father in talent. Sure, generally older singers will have more mature voices (I think it stops being completely different at around 18 though), but talent will always be there when you're young or when you're old.

I think Jang Ri In has a more naturally beautiful voice...however, she tends to like to go off (like trills, vibrato-typeish things) and I feel the song calls for something a bit more simple.

And certainly, it's difficult to compare artists who have huge gaps in style, experience, and whatnot.

Boa is not as a naturally-inclined singer, but she's been trained well.
Annie_Jeh
it's really hard to say if jang ri in is really better or will ever exceed boa because right now, she has only 2 songs out and boa has 100+. however, i will say that jang ri in has an excellent voice, and that i will wait for her album. but honestly, i like jang ri in's 2 songs more than boa's stuff.
strawberry_hit
You can't really compare them since both are tootally different ...well beside being a girl, asian, under SM but music wise i mean...and plus Jang ri in is new...she will disadvantage in this comparision...since of course boa fans would chose boa over jang ri in...I'm not really a fan of either..but i love their songs..timless from jang ri in and boa songs..so couldn't really choose..cause just heard of both of them and reckon their voices sound as beautiful as each other in a different way.
zhyune.max
BoA! she's been around since she was 15...and she's still hot and popular! she has great voice and great looks.

Jang RiIn is more R&B and has that oriental beauty/and i dont think its kinda fair to her to compare with BoA. it must be very hard to make a name for herself since everyone makes comparisons. she's jangriin and lets appreciate her style!
*Yoochunnie*
Although both have awesome voices, i prefer Jang Ri In.
blu3~cloud
Like just everyone said...
Too early to compare~~
To me ZhangLiYin is a gifted singer...
and BoA is a very hardworking singer...

ZhangLiYin
She have beautiful vocals...
Really impressing, very powerful!!
My mom loves her voice very much too...
Its just like Celine Dion's powerful voice!!
and she got MKMF award as the Best Newcomer...
So she have a bright future...


BoA
She put a lot of afford on her voice...
When she was just debuted, her voice is not good (its quite bad, sounds like baby girl)
Not convincing at all!!!
But she improve a lot!!! clapping.gif
On the way to be a successful singer, she found her own singing style...
and her own way to present her nice dances...
Now I am also obssesed by her voice...


Actually they both are great singers!!!
Everyone has to admit it, right?!
So just wish them good luck on their way to success...
Kriste
im a fan of Boa, and still lioke her and like jang ri too,hope she could be a huge star like Boa,lol,wish her luck
baybiC_7
true it too early to compare, but dude, wen usaid jangrin in has a good voice at 16...boa did too...even better and stronger....i still like boa tho, no tb/c shes been in the businness long but b/c she really does hav a strong voice after so long.....but wen she sings jap songs lately its been hoarse but not in korean i wonder why
cutie_bratz14
yup its too early to compare these two ..
i'm a fan of both .. i love their songs and voices as much
i personally like jang ri in's voice more .. its pretty impressive..
boa .. she also has a good voice.. and can dance pretty well
and no don't compare jri to boa when she was 16..
it was a completely different era.. kpop was merely starting to spread across asia that time..there wasn't much of a competition ... so yeah
oh and i'm filipino though .. living in the philippines... and i love jang ri in ..
and a lot of my friends... and people i know online .. who are vietnamese.. indonesian and from other more asian countries.. who loves her too..
boa ... she's a great performer... and you can see how hard she worked to get where she is now ...
its really hard to compare these two
jang ri in and sunmin .. i think those two .. u could compare them ...
~JuNE Ai ~
for me...i think..i like jang ri in more than boa....but they both are great singer!!....
rache114
i think i like Jang Ri In better, cuz i love her voice in "timeless"! it matched so well with Xiah (dbsk), plus her voice sounds more mature than BoA's, even tho she's just 16...and I'm pretty sure BoA's voice wasn't as good as her's when she was 16 (no offense to the BoA fans)....tho BoA does have nice songs
jennlau
Honestly, I was really offended when I first heard of someone actually has a tagname as 'Chinese BoA'. Personally I am a huge fan of BoA and I love her so much as a celebrity. I was very unhappy that SM uses such a way to promote their new artist, I mean, it's unfair to both artists.

BoA is BoA, there will not be a 2nd BoA appearing. She has worked so hard to achieve who she is today, and it's unfair to her if another new artist is getting so much attention partly because of using a tagname such as 'Chinese BoA'. BoA shouldn't be made used as an asset to promote another artist by using her (BoA) fame.

The same goes to Jang Ri In. Can you imagine how much stress she is under by holding such a tagname ? Once people heard of her as a 'Chinese BoA', they would already have set certain expectations for her. Yes, I agree that she's not let the public down as she has an amazing vocal, but remember, the public hasn't yet seen her dance. BoA excels in both singing and dancing (even languages!), if Jang Ri In couldn't meet up to the expectations of the public (which I believe people had set their expectations according to what they expect from BoA), it will be a great damage to her popularity. Plus, she might be an eyesore to many BoA fans just because of her tagname. Afterall BoA has been in the industry for 6 years, she already owns many many many fans across the whole Asia. Imagine what the fans of BoA will say if they don't appreciate Jang Ri In's talents. She (Jang Ri In) might get hurt !

What I'm trying to say is that, I think it's hurtful to both artists if the public keeps on comparing them with one another. Moreover Jang Ri In is still very new, while on the other side BoA has already won many hearts across Asia, who do you think will be at the losing end ? Why don't we all just love both of them for who they are and stop comparing them ? I don't see much similarities between them anw, they're both unique and talented in their own ways. : )

P.S. Sorry if I've offended anyone. Just posting my views on this. ^^
ENIMSAJJ
Jang Ri In had only release a single, there isn't much to compare with. But i must admit that she has stronger vocal than BoA. I think instead of naming her the Chinese BoA, i think the Chinese Bada would suits her more.

Also, i read that she can dance perfectly well.

"Growing up, Zhang had already held an interest in dancing. With training, she quickly acquired her dancing ability with extreme flexibility and a sense of rhythm at a fast pace. She is reported to have an extraordinary ability to perform a range of dancing styles including Jazz-dance, Girls Hip-hop, Body-Popping etc. which she mastered through hard training."

Above text taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jang_ri_in

JeLLieZ
its really hard to compare a girl whose been in the music industry for
so many years to a newbie~ i think that jangriin has talent in singing
but i haven't seen her dance yet so im not sure~
personally i dun like boa that much so yeah.. i dun have anything
against her either, she just doesn't really stand out
Ballish_coffee
BoA is more talented , in my opinion .And if you have time , you have to check it out her newest concert "BoA the live" Boa was not only demontrated herself as a wonderful performer,but also a great singer. Her voice is amazing;she's definetely one of those few artists that can sing REALLY GOOD LIVE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHRFptC7P1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSG_I-qfjOc...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z071csv365o...ted&search=
,while Zhang li yin also has an impressive and a powerful voice, but those are only in her record.When she is singing live , that really annoyed me T___T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG80ZwqYucU
bUT zhang li yin is a newbie so she needs time , but I doubt she can achieve the success like BoA , honestly .she needs more than a powerful voice...
linayah
I know this is late to comment, but Jang riin cannot sing live. Her vocals are way too shaky. I hear her struggling to hit the notes the recorded version made her do so well. I thought that she might have had one bad performance but I watched others, and everytime she sang, it was not pleasant. It was uncomfortable hearing her, and that is not a singer or an entertainer. BoA on the other hand doesn't have a gorgeous voice, but the girl can hold her notes and stay in tune when she sings live. You can't compare the two.
jennlau
I 100% agree that BoA can sing REALLY GOOD LIVE ! XD I watched her performance with DBSK on youtube and it was AWESOME !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYm6jJz9pug

Btw, just to add on. BoA is a very emotional singer. If you guys have took notice, she puts 100% feelings into her singing in her songs. I can feel along with her voice as I listen to her songs every time, and that's really not easy for a singer to achieve ! I think putting feelings into a song is far more important that vocals, because feelings make the song 'alive'. You guys can watch the following clip where BoA sang Winter Love at BOA THE LIVE concert. I was crying as she sang... T.T It's so good !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYWBpJB-IHY...ted&search=
nanshi
I don't think it's necessarily too early to compare both. Just think back to BoA's debut and compare it to Jang Ri's debut now.

And I must say, I think BoA had a stronger debut.
1) She was debuting solo; no Xiah to back her up.
2) She had tremendous stage potential and presence.
3) She was kinda the 'first' of all the young teeny boppers in Korea.
* although I did hear that BoA wasn't very popular in Korea when she first released; it was when she got recognition in Japan and then went BACK to Korea that she got very popular.

Jang Ri's debut was incredible because she had Xiah singing with her in "Timeless," but her live performances are the worst things ever. Timeless is a very difficult song to sing consistently (although Xiah makes it look effortless =D) and it definitely shows in Ri's performances. Recorded tracks can recorded note by note and line by line... making each line/verse/phrase absolutely perfect (not to mention the amount of stuff that can be done on a soundboard to fix pitch and make a singer sound really good)... which is probably a reason why Ri's recorded "Timeless" is so perfect-sounding... but her lives are inconsistent (she's pitchy, sharp, shaky, quiet, too loud, and flat... her voice is all over the place -- relatively). Her notes are shaky and her control is virtually nonexistent. Although she may have a more powerful voice and different style than BoA, BoA had the advantage of singing songs that were suited to her singing voice. Also, BoA's current and new tracks are very very different from her debut. Now she sings in a more of a soprano range; when BoA debuted, her voice was around an alto range (probably because they didn't want to stress her voice too much because she was about 13-14 and was starting to hit puberty). "Timeless" is waaayyyy out of Jang Ri's comfort range (it's a cover of the American Kelly Clarkson song); "Y" is actually a much better performance. Although she is still shaky, the inconsistency is considerably lower AND since she's not singing with [perfect-singer] Xiah Junsu, she also SOUNDS better in "Y" as well. Not to mention "Y" is sung in a different (lower) key than "Timeless" so she has that advantage too (notice how Ri can hit low notes really beautifully but loses control as she climbs up the scale; Ri is probably an alto by nature).

Unfortunately, Jang Ri's live performances have made me decide that she is not that good of a singer. I DO like her voice-style (the strong type of soulful voice) BUT I think SM went about training her the wrong way and are pushing and pressuring her much too much.

So, I'm neutral on both because I think BoA is a mediocre singer and I haven't seen quite enough of Jang Ri's stuff to really make me impressed. Although I agree that "Timeless" was incredible, after I heard her sing it live... I was extremely disappointed. Just because an artist sounds good on a CD doesn't mean that he/she is a good singer. Live performances determine real skill and talent (and good training...! sweat.gif). Although I do think that in another time and place and under different management and with different (better!) training, Jang Ri would probably blow me away. It's just a sad fact that most Asian producers and vocal coaches are unaccustomed to training soulful voices that are more prevalent in American country/western and gospel choir singers than they are in the typical Asian singer.

So, shall I blame this on the management? Maybe (I kinda do) .... But I also think Ri has the unfortunate luck of BoA being her predecessor (and although the automatic comparison as the "Chinese BoA.") Maybe if Jang Ri didn't debut as the "Chinese BoA," then maybe something people wouldn't find her so... 'unfortunate.' Although, the marketing campaign certainly worked. If she wasn't called the "Chinese BoA," I think I wouldn't even have heard of her by now.

Oh, and btw: I don't think it's a confidence or age issue with Jang Ri. I think it's really just a consistency issue. She just can't sing live well, period. I haven't seen her singing consistently... live at all. There are subtle improvements, but not enough to really prove to me that it's just cause she lacks stage experience.
heosuabi
I like to see Ri In develop her original style instead of piggyback on Boa's fame.

Boa is just Boa, no one will say Korean-Boa. then who is Chinese-Boa?

Ri In right now just lacks any charisma/style.. She sings like an old lady, IMO.

China wants a celebrity as popular as Boa, then should develop original talents not piggy back on Korean stars, will there be Chinese verison of all Korean stars in the future ? Just my opinion.






nanshi
QUOTE(heosuabi @ Jan 9 2007 1 15 AM) [snapback]3397827[/snapback]

I like to see Ri In develop her original style instead of piggyback on Boa's fame.

Boa is just Boa, no one will say Korean-Boa. then who is Chinese-Boa?

Ri In right now just lacks any charisma/style.. She sings like an old lady, IMO.

China wants a celebrity as popular as Boa, then should develop original talents not piggy back on Korean stars, will there be Chinese verison of all Korean stars in the future ? Just my opinion.


"Chinese BoA" is actually the tagline that SM Entertainment gave Jang Ri In -- remember, BoA and Jang Ri are under the same management -- to get interest generated in Jang Ri. It worked, to an extent... but I think it didn't work in her favor. People were probably expecting someone like BoA and they got someone completely different from that.

heosuabi
QUOTE(nanshi @ Jan 9 2007 6 05 AM) [snapback]3398872[/snapback]

"Chinese BoA" is actually the tagline that SM Entertainment gave Jang Ri In -- remember, BoA and Jang Ri are under the same management -- to get interest generated in Jang Ri. It worked, to an extent... but I think it didn't work in her favor. People were probably expecting someone like BoA and they got someone completely different from that.


So.. how do Ri In recover from this management blunder and regain her career? I guess people expecting Ri In to be even greater than Boa in delivering powerful performances, I mean everything is bigger and greater in China.

Similar mistake would be if Yao Ming was to introduced as Chinese-Shaq. As it turned out Yao is no match for Shaq, and it's fortunate that that type of comparison was not greatly anticipated from the begining.
nanshi
QUOTE(heosuabi @ Jan 9 2007 12 25 PM) [snapback]3399285[/snapback]

So.. how do Ri In recover from this management blunder and regain her career? I guess people expecting Ri In to be even greater than Boa in delivering powerful performances, I mean everything is bigger and greater in China.

Similar mistake would be if Yao Ming was to introduced as Chinese-Shaq. As it turned out Yao is no match for Shaq, and it's fortunate that that type of comparison was not greatly anticipated from the begining.


I definitely agree that it was probably because of Ri In's status as the "Chinese BoA" that has caused her to fall as short as she has presently. I don't think she will be as popular as BoA (even in the future), but rather she will have to struggle with competing with BoA for the rest of her musical career.

It's almost like BoA is a brand-name now. Like if we were to come out with a fashion designer to be the "Giorgio Armani of China...!" people would expect great things from that fashion designer. As it is, people were expecting great things (not necessarily BETTER than BoA) from Jang Ri and she fell very short of the mark (especially in terms of live performances and stage charisma). I'm not a BoA fan, but this is simply something that I have observed between BoA's 'revelation' to the public and Jang Ri's debut.

I do think Jang Ri has the potential to be BETTER than BoA, but her management is going about it all the wrong way. Like when Christina Aguilera first debuted, she was to be the 'new Britney Spears,' but Christina was SOOO much more talented than Britney that she was able to quickly shed that title and become Christina Aguliera in her own right. Jang Ri is going to have a difficult time shedding the mantle of the "Chinese BoA" because she hasn't (yet, so far) proved herself to be a better performer than BoA. *notice I said performer and not artist/singer. BoA is by far one of the most powerful performers I have seen in the Asian pop industry. She has immense stage presence and charisma; it makes up for what her talent lacks really.
G0LDF15H87
I think they call Jang Ra In the "Chinese BoA" is because they are similiar in how they debuted. Both of them debuted young, at 15-16. And both become popular first in another country (BoA in Japan and Jang Ra In in Korea). That's just my theory.
小 安
jang ri, probably because i never really liked boa to begin with something about her voice just didn't go over well with me -__-
jang ri doesn't do well in live performances but she has a lot of time to grow and i think she'll go a long way. rooting for her!

lemon_x
i would say jang ri in, i dont know why but boas never appealed to me much.
no doubt boas talented but i liked jang ri ins timeless much better than what ive heard of boas stuff.
Galilei
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"Chinese BoA" is actually the tagline that SM Entertainment gave Jang Ri In -- remember, BoA and Jang Ri are under the same management -- to get interest generated in Jang Ri. It worked, to an extent... but I think it didn't work in her favor. People were probably expecting someone like BoA and they got someone completely different from that.


I completely agree with you Nanshi. The tagline "Chinese Boa" has actually backfired on JRI. People expected so much from her before she even debuted and the tagline absolutely did not help JRI to gain fans in China at all. With JRI singing a duet with Xiah made it even worse because Xiah is such a great live singer, it just made her look like a terrible singer so far in all of their duet performances.

I have a feeling that JRI is just not ready, she's not well-trained.
lambayyx
i like BoA better .. i think Jang Ri In's way overrated ._. please dont bash me.

JRI can sing .. but .. she's not like BoA in anyway .. besides the fact that they're both from SM. JRI's singing annoy me like crazy. ppl say she sings good, but her vibrato is so .. ugh. & she tries too hard to make her voice powerful like Hwanhee's, im not saying that she's trying to make it sound like HiS tho. her voice is like all over the place. & its even more annoying wen fans go ' oh, she's just nervous ', yeah well she's already around long enough to stop fricking being nervous. if she wants to keep her fans & fame, she should try harder. altho SM should stop trying to prove she's the chinese BoA by giving her songs she's not ready for yet.

the reason why i think she's overrated its kus .. well she got SO popular just from one song [ thats not her own original ], and kus HanKyung + Choi Shiwon from SUJU are in her MV, & Junsu was dueting with her.

to sum up, i personally like BoA more .. and whoever say JRI's voice is better than BoA's is mad crazy because their singing style is like .. totally different.
jennlau
I kinda agree with you.

I think Jang Ri In's trying too hard to make her voice 'colorful' when she's not even stabilized her voice yet. Also, I think SM shouldn't have given her such a difficult song to sing with. I mean, it was originally sang by KELLY CLARKSON - THE AMERICAN IDOL WINNER. SM must have been nuts to have chosen that song for a NEW artist ! In this way, not only people will compare her with BoA, but compare her with Kelly too. And it's a bad thing because Kelly definitely has a much more powerful vocal than Jang Ri In. Imagine what Kelly's fans will say if they happen to hear the Korean version of Timeless? Think about it man...

And yeah. I think it's nonsense to say that Jang Ri In sings better than BoA cos their singing styles are totally different. Please look at them individually and stop comparing them! They're such DIFFERENT sort of singers!
hnAcogN
I think it's not fair to compare JRI with BoA cuz JRI is a new singer while BoA has been in the showbiz for so long.
Speaking of voice, I prefer JRI but she sounds shaking when singing live, maybe she's still new so she's very nervous. I'm sure she'll get better as she gets more experience.
Overall, at the moment I like BoA a bit more cuz I like someone who can both sing and dance (I haven't seen JRI dance but she doesn't have much potential to be able to dance as well as BoA sweat.gif)
I support JRI and I hope that she'll be successful in the near future.
nanshi
QUOTE(jennlau @ Jan 13 2007 9 05 AM) [snapback]3413486[/snapback]

I kinda agree with you.

I think Jang Ri In's trying too hard to make her voice 'colorful' when she's not even stabilized her voice yet. Also, I think SM shouldn't have given her such a difficult song to sing with. I mean, it was originally sang by KELLY CLARKSON - THE AMERICAN IDOL WINNER. SM must have been nuts to have chosen that song for a NEW artist ! In this way, not only people will compare her with BoA, but compare her with Kelly too. And it's a bad thing because Kelly definitely has a much more powerful vocal than Jang Ri In. Imagine what Kelly's fans will say if they happen to hear the Korean version of Timeless? Think about it man...

And yeah. I think it's nonsense to say that Jang Ri In sings better than BoA cos their singing styles are totally different. Please look at them individually and stop comparing them! They're such DIFFERENT sort of singers!


I'm not an avid fan of American Idol, but I heard through the grapevine that even Kelly Clarkson had trouble hitting the higher notes in some of the more complicated runs in "Timeless" (the original English version, of course). ... and Jang Ri In completely lacks the power that Kelly's voice has even at the 'normal' range...

But I agree with you wholeheartedly about the "colorful" bit. That's what I meant with my comment earlier about her voice is all over the place (relatively, it's not like she's miserably off-key and completely tone-deaf). Even when she's hitting notes that *should* be around her comfort zone (the notes in the lower range of the song)... she STILL sounds shaky (as though her voice hasn't quite recovered from the vibrato and run that it just did two seconds before)... and that's a sign of an inconsistent and poorly trained singer. I tend to blame most of JRI's fault on her management though, and not so much herself. After all, she does have some talent (it shines through in "Y")... but the rest of it was developed so wrongly, and at a crucial juncture in her life (she's emerging from puberty at the age of 16... and she had been trained for the past 2-3 years. You do the math.).

"Y" is a MUCH MUCH MUCH better performance. It's in a range much more suited to her voice (although the high notes are just a *touch* too sharp for her to hit comfortably) ... and her live performances seem to be in much smaller settings (and without Xiah next to her) so she seems to be more comfortable and more at ease .

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her voice is like all over the place. & its even more annoying wen fans go ' oh, she's just nervous ', yeah well she's already around long enough to stop fricking being nervous. if she wants to keep her fans & fame, she should try harder. altho SM should stop trying to prove she's the chinese BoA by giving her songs she's not ready for yet.

the reason why i think she's overrated its kus .. well she got SO popular just from one song [ thats not her own original ], and kus HanKyung + Choi Shiwon from SUJU are in her MV, & Junsu was dueting with her.


Although I don't necessarily agree that BoA is a better singer (although I do think BoA is a stronger PERFORMER)... I agree with the comment about her 'nervousness.' I don't know about anyone else, but... okay, I'll be nervous the first time I perform something. But usually when the second or third time rolls around...? I'm fine. Really. Especially if I'm performing the EXACT SAME THING. I haven't see any other performers (age aside) having as much of a problem with their nerves as she "does."

And besides, don't you get nervous at the BEGINNING? You should see her voice calming down and smoothing out as the song progresses so she has a fantastic finish if it really was just 'nerves.' And you gotta admit, SM does know how to market their stars. But there is a HUGE difference between JRI singing with Xiah and JRI singing by herself. Not enough to make me completely convinced that she really is as talented as everyone (hopes) says she is... but enough to make me think that there is hope. I guess it's just a subconscious comparison that you make when you're singing with one of the top singers of one of the top a cappella groups in Korea (and he's an incredibly good live performer to boot). Again, "Y" is just so much better simply because it's a song that JRI just SINGS better because it's more in her range (as opposed to "Timeless," which was incredibly hard to sing and really out there).

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With JRI singing a duet with Xiah made it even worse because Xiah is such a great live singer, it just made her look like a terrible singer so far in all of their duet performances.

I have a feeling that JRI is just not ready, she's not well-trained.

Totally agreed. I don't really want to bash her. And I'm honestly trying to be as neutral and unbiased as possible... but... I still end up blaming her management. They just went about training her completely the wrong way. Honestly, if they wanted her to sing the style and potential that she could sing... they should have sent her to America (or Italy) and had her train with professionals who do know how to coach voices that are strong and soulful... and use a lot of their 'belt' voice. She forces way too much from her throat (notice, some lines where she forces out her voice in a deep tone that almost has a faint 'purring' vibrato? Kinda sounds like you're clearing your throat or subtly coughing. She uses that too often that it loses its touch and becomes annoying). Not to mention, her overuse of vibrato (which, incidentally, when overused the way she does is a sign of a weak and not-so-strong singer who can't control his/her voice) may be enchanting at first, but soon makes her voice sound wobbly and uncertain.

"Y" is great though... but there are still parts of it that make me cringe, but on the whole, I enjoy it much more than "Timeless- Live." She sounds much... I guess the word is "warmer" in CD recordings than she does in live performances... there is a subtle quality to her voice live that makes it just a touch too pitchy, but I credit that towards training and conditioning. *She also has the unfortunate luck of having debuted with only cover songs so far and nothing original. I'm sure her original songs will be much better; after all, those songs will be composed with her in mind and her talents, capabilites, and voice-range. "Heaven" is a nice song by her... I hope she pulls it off well live as well. I am increasingly respecting Jang Ri more and more though.... especially as I see more "Y" performances.
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