I've only watched up to episode 14 so this may be premature but has anyone else thought that the faye yu san group's martial arts to be rather weak..including the see fu? It's rather pitiful that they cannot actually fight up a decent fight with any one of the more important characters. How can a group with such poor martial arts skills be leading the "bak doe"?

John just haven't revealed his great skillz yet. but when he does, muahahahahahaha

what u mean its weak? its just that all of them are pretty young so they haven't really mastered it. plus, everybody that goes there are the great fighters. i think the best fighters are supposedly the four little fishes. (LOL.) but also they weren't that bad when four of the younger ones fought derek. i liked that scene cause that was pretty cool. less special effects and more with the flying stuff.

does anybody think that the second si hing's little bow/arrow thing ridiculous? c'mon.. you're just shooting arrows. totally doesn't look as cool as using a sword.

i think they want to make it seem like the four fishes had good martial arts but they're always against the really powerful old people.. thats why they seem weak.

to me faye yu san sucks because the master is hiding his skills and he made that guy died for falling into the trap

John was injured or osmething so his martial arts is not as "strong" But I wonder how "good" his martial arts really is =] All the other people in faye yu san (the young people) are kinda weak to me too xD But it may be beacsue they're not fully trained yet.

Yeah I agree with you that ts kinda amusing how the leader of Bai doe and her wife is the only strong person. All the other ppl in that place is young and weak. The 4 xiao fei yu. OMG they are pathetic. The oldest (dai see hing) suicide? wtf is that. The second oldest, uses the gay little arrow with no special effects. wow...weak. Tavia....all heart no skills. N the daughter of the leader....stupid, agressive, never think before she acts.

PS. The John is strong but he is also dumb. Remember the part where he thought the other guy was a spy, and it ends up hes not. He was right in the first place to not doubt him but he ended up doubting him becuz of other ppls fake facts. And he fell into the trap and got that umbrella guy killed. Funny isnt it, the leader of Bai Doe.

Ok after watching ep 15 i was wrong. guess the leader of Bai Doe wasnt as weak as I thought.

omg, afta watching this series im like totally in love wth it!!!
aniiwaiiz i feel like learning martial arts rite now and being this real good fighter!!!
buhh, u no its not gonna come true!!! AHHHH!!! also i lubb the bamboo thingie that frankie lam has, and the pin stuff raymond has... i feel like getiing special abilities... this is random thoughts only!!!
that faye yu san master is a real good actor, though he ish bad in this series but he's quite cool and his smile ish so fake u no he ish angry!!!
i cant express my feelings for this series but FACE TO FATE ROX!!!

Don't forget. All the other sects are even WEAKER. Only their leaders can stand a chance against the pupils of Fay Yu. But their minions are.. minions.


(and of course, the 5 experts are much stronger than teh current sect leaders...)