By the way, can someone answer some questions for me on part one of Dou Yu?
1. At the end when Xiao Die visited Yu Hao's grave, what did she say to him?
2. What does Xiao Yan Zi's tatoo of the beta fish on her back supposed to mean/symbolize?
3. In Dou Yu part II, did Xiao Yan Zi get pregnant with the rapist's child or Yu Hao's child? Please answer honestly because I'm very confused about whose kid she was pregnant with.
4. Also, was it Xiao Yan Zi's parents that didn't want her anymore or was it her who decided to leave them?

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If you scroll up, I posted earlier that the first 5 Eps are subbed in English. Be patient, only one person is subbing this series atm.

this series was good. I hate the ending, it took them all this time to be with each other and the guy end up dying leaving her behind. I didnt' know there's an Outsiders II is it good?!

hey guys do u think u can post a close up picture off ady's tattoo? id really appreciate it if thats possible ....thanx guys

i was watching outsiders again cos i bought the DVD and i realised there was alot of piano playing, does anyone know where i can get the paino notes or does anyone have it? can you post it please?



1. i dont remeber
2. The fish is a symbol of the necklace Ah Hao had given to her. A tattoo lives forever, and that day she had got it done, she had a choice whether or not to stay with Ah Hao, she chose to stay. Therefore the tattoo of the fish is like saying she'll be with him forever.
3. havent watched 2 yet
4. Xiao Yan Zi's parents wanted her to come back with them. But XYZ's heart was still with Ah Hao, so since they both wanted different ways XYZ's parents gave up. It wasn't that they didnt want her, more like they wanted her to be different...
Hope that helped

I think she saids something like, Yu Hao I got revenege for you. That question you asked me years ago, I still don't know how to answer it today. Something like that. Memory sucks

Thanks Sweetcandeeh and xCHELLy. I was wondering if I was ever going to get any answers for two months now.

To Sweetcandeeh: You can get the "bu gong ping" piano score from 'the outsiders' here http://amusic.uni.cc/scores_female2.php
Also, if anyone has seen Chinese Paladin, there are also some scores from that series there too.
For Chinese paladin piano scores: http://amusic.uni.cc/scores_female.php
There's the piano sheets for A Sang - 一直很安静 yi zhi hen an jing
JS - 杀破狼 sha po lang
JS - 花与剑 hua yu jian
I don't know if there's anymore since I only found those. Hope I helped some of you.
Oh and I'm pretty sure you can find Lydia's piano sheets too. Here it is http://amusic.uni.cc/scores_group.php

i think i remember... she says " five years ago i promised you i'd leave the country and i think it's time for me to go..." i duno...

by the way thankx complete_love HEAPS AND HEAPS for the notes

Really? Since I saw the Vietdubbed version and I was going back in my memories what she said in viet kept flowing in my mind. I know for sure she said stuff about revenge and the question that he asked her 5 years ago, the question was like "Why did you help him?" Him was that bad buy.


Sorry, at first I didn't know who she was. I had to go back and see who she was. xD

eh.. probably too late but w/e

She didn't exactly 'turn bad' u know! She only made herself into a stronger person so that she could mostly Protect Yu Hao. Cos if his enemies wanted to hurt him, they'd try to hurt her. And that happened when she was raped. But mostly the transformation is so that she wouldn't be a burden on Yu Hao & cos she loved him & wanted to protect him the best way she knew how.

It wasn't bad.. but she had to turn stronger due to the life she chose... When she was weak, what did she get? Yu Hao was over protective of her.. she was raped.. and her meekness had caused, indirectly, Blue's character to be in jail. She had to toughen up to protect her self and ppl around her.

1. She said, "I'm sorry Yu Hao gege(brother), I've revenge for you. I want to hear you said that you forgive me but it couldn't be, I can never hear those words anymore. I'm going back to my home land."

2. The tattoo indicates her sacrifices of staying with Yu Hao and not going back, she chose to stay with him.

3. I was a bit confused too, she is supposed to be pregnant with the rapist but seem like Yu Hao didn't care as long as she was with him. She miscarriage the baby anyway, it was so emotional, I'll upload that scene for you guys to watch.

4. It was Xiao Yan Zhi that didn't want her parent, on that scene when Xiao Yan Zhi's parent wanted to take her back, she denied to go back with them.





You should watch, it was not one of those typical series, it was dramatic and great.

I used to think that this series is one of those typical series where a poor bad guy fall in love with a good rich girl and he had to suffer for his love but it was not that way, it was much better, it is not typical at all

P.S - I love Sun zi character more but love Xiao yan Zhi with Yu Hao.

Does anyone know if anyone bought the photobook of "the Outsider"?

jsushi... you have fast connection dont you? unfortunately for me.. i dont rent this series instead =/

dabduff.... scans of it is probably out there.. just have to search... wait.. i was thinking of cp... dont know about outsiders... DO they have the book thingy? =/

Yea, same here. I do want to watch Part 2 though. Ady & Dylan's chemistry is the best! <3*

I first watched the Vietdubbed version, then after 2 years. I wanted to watch again so i rented it again. Then I told myself I had to get my hands on this series XD So I downloaded from D-addicts even if I dont understand =]

There is a Photo Album for this series, It is at yesasia.com, just search The Outsider and you'll see the photobook, I'm planning to buy it but I can't now cause I just bought the Outsider 1 & 2 for 109.80$ so have to save that for later, I'm still waiting for my order to arrive. Everyone, are you happy for me for getting Dou Yu 1 & 2....I am so happy I can't wait till they deliver it to me.

i was getting bored so i watched the series AGAIN cos i had nothign to do...
what is that sign just before XYZ leaves... its early in the series..
where shes abnout to go overseas... there this white symbol on the wall what is it?
my sister and i came to the conclusion it was a swallow.. bird but what is it??

[b][font=Courier New][size=7] Please i've tired really hard to look for this series.. i really want to buy it in viet dub.. if anyone knows where i can get a copy then please email me or tell me thanks. please help me out!

i just recently watch it again too.. do day just like 30 minutes ago hahaha makes me feel so good to see them together.. ahem.. anyways.. to get to your question... your sister's conclusion is *cough* wrong.. because it is a fighting fish.. see how the head is small and all that fin looking things.. yep.. because dylan is the fighting fishie and ady is the swallow.. i saw the part where he said she was a swallow flying high, queen of the world kinda thing and he was just a low life fish swimming in a small pond... aww... so much symbolism so yea.. definitely a fighting fish.. doesnt look like the fighting fish he has in his house? the one he keeps in that little small tank.. i think he's like the fish.. always able to survive in the worse conditions... the fighting fish can live in any type or water and the just keep living.. i have like 9 fighting fish in my tank and i watch them eat eachothers fin things.. yep.. vicious but they seriously are strong just like ah hao okay... i think i better get back to continue watching it.. ^^


*beckons lovelyshootingstar into a dark alley* you wanna know how to do it do ya.. just go to the rental store and rent it on video or dvd then burn it.. or record it... *nodds*... i would do that myself but yeah... the rental place doesnt have ke ngoai cuoc on disk.. dam them... hey.. its just like downloading... illegal but clearer picture.. lol.... dont know where you would buy it legally in viet though... hmm... i'll ask the rental store about it.. maybe they could hook me up...

hi,

anybody know where i can watch this series with english sub?
i saw 1st eps in youtube in jeddy group and i like the chemistry between ady & dylan.
unfortunately only 1st eps is availabe.
i've heard about this series a long long time ago from my sister, but have'nt got a change 2 watch it.

In Viet it's called "Ke Nguoai Cuoc". Maybe if you look for it under that title You might have some luck. I'm in Aus & rented it as a 7 video series from the local Vietnamese/Chinese video shop. I loooooved watching it, so if you haven't I think u will 2.

Hey, thakyou for explainning the part about the fighting fish, I never understand why fighting fish have to go along with the series plot, it become more clearer now.



I believe episode 1-6 is aviable in english sub.

Guess what?! I finish watching The Outsider 2 and finally understand that series...alot of people tell me a different story of The Outsiders 2 and I watch it myself and understand it....here is a little spoliers on it.

It started with Sun Zi was put in jail, Yu Hao, Xiao Yan Zi, Hong Dou, and Ah Qi follows the car that Sun zi was put into....later, XYZ period pass the time it is suppose to start so she was afraid that she might get pregnant with the rapist....unfortunately, the director didn't explain this part well enough but I don't think she have a baby with the rapist because that never come up....anyway, later Ah bao framed XYZ and YH so they have to run away for a little while.

When they came back, she realized that she was pregnant with Yu Hao...*they must have had affairs and live like couple*...anyway, she was afraid to tell yu hao that they have a baby because if they do, the baby will become their weakness...XYZ didn't tell Yu Hao but he found out on his own, Later, because XYZ didn't listen to YH, Mouse (a bad guy) hit her in the stomach and she miscarriage her first baby with Yu Hao at that scene, the doctor told her that they might have less chance of having a baby again..... but we know in part one that yu hao die and they have Xiao Hao, their son.

thats the part where I stop at, episode 16....luckily its their baby but unluckily, she miscarriage it.

i never quite understood it... i was quite confused with whose baby it is.. *shrugs* thanks for clearing it ^^ i'm glad its not the rapist baby but still.. yu hao would still love it like his own i'm sure

you're welcome sweetrain.. i like how the director put those two in like that.. the pretty swallow and the strong fighting fish.. i think it matches with their characteristics...

viet title for the outsiders: KE NGOAI CUOI it should be 1-15 i think

NP. yeah, I believ so too, yu hao would love it no matter what, kind of sad on the part where yu hao unborn baby die....he carry her all thru the street for help...what a sad story, the swallow cannot live long in water, what a song comparison the director make....fish and swallow, so sad, either one will die if they live together.

hmm the fighting fish makes mroe sense... though it hardly looks like anything hahaha..
i know they keep a little orange fighting fish... but where is it kept??? i never actually see it
or maybe i have but i forget...

Huh? They have sequel of this series??? What for??
Is the sequel tell the story of that girl finally getting married with someone? Hehe......

no.. sequel quite confusing... its during the years sun zi is in prison yep.. if you remember... they had a flash back of that time when she had the short short hair... that would be the sequel.. i know it doesnt seem to make sense at first but after you watch the outsiders 2 you'll understand


okay.. if only i had a picture of a fighting fish.. mmm... can't screen capture the fish on the wall though.. cuz dont have it.. i have it on tape though that i rented.. but thats no good..

kinda look like it now? if you could remember.. =/
it use to be in his old house but when they moved to the new small appartment they kept it outside i think near the giant pillar... since i just saw it like 5 minutes ago.. lol you know how you watch the series and it always has that little break.. it shows the fighting fish hanging from the pillar


it is sad... but so touching.. him running with ady in his arms double yes.. thats true sweetrain... fishie cant live in the sky nor can the birdie swim with fishie in the water...

O.O So there is a meaning behind the fighting fish thingy. Thanks, tipsypixel for clarifying. I'm pissed how my mom won't copy the VietDubbed Outsiders tape for me. Piss me off XD. Lots say that they like Ady in the first 10 episodes of how she looks. I think that she looks more better in the last 10 episodes, is that just me? =\

from when to when was this shown on GTv? and how long is each episode? 1 hour?

The episodes I think are 45 minutes? This drama was like 2004 I think xD so I'm not sure when was it shown on GTV.

@ s.u.g.a.i.8.7
This was my first TW Drama & One of my favorites. I think you'll like it also xD

i cant upload anything.. cuz i dont have it on my pc lol

this is one of my favorite tw series too ^^


lol i dont know if its meant to be but as i like poetry and analyzing stuff like that... i see lots of things that might be there.. or might not be.. but the fighting fish and the swallow seems to fit prefectly with their corresponding characters you welcome.

hahaha... i cant copy viet dub cuz i dont have 2 VCRs if only i could get it on DVD then i can burn... BURN! hahaha i think she looks nice either way.. love her style in the last episodes love her long straight hair in the beginning... love her curly long brown hair when she weres a hat in the second half... i think i can go on... and on... and on... lol so its not just you.. i like the "gang" ady too

I have 3 VCRs in this house. My mom's being mean & not going to record for me T.T Gahh, I loved her hats! Soo awesome! I liked her long straight hair too. She looked real innocnet. The gangster Ady can look innocent but when she looks at you with her mean look, it's like back off xD

i know! she has conquered the mean look in the end... its so funny how "red bean" tried to teach her the mean look... she was like.. you can do it xyz... your eyes are too big.. lol its true for a while.. they look soooo cute... big round eyes... but oh.. i can see that gangster ady... *nodds*

3 VCRs? if only you would let me borrow one then i can record for both of us hahaha i love in cali as well lol probably not so close to you though =/

your mom doesn't like this series?

I live in Southern California XD. My mom thinks this series isn't really good. I was really sad when Hong Dou died to save Ady. I have one VCR & DVD in the living room. One DVD/VCR in my mom's room. And a VCR in my room, barely use it though xD. My uncle did tell me a way to get a video tape into a DVD. You gotta use your cam corder & go back and forth. Save the video onto Cam Corder then transfer it into your pc & turn it into DVD format & burn. There's a new program, I forgot the name but it can make videos itno dvds. Cost like $250 though =\

i have a camcorder but its resolution sucks.. when i try transferring it to the computer.. it comes out squarie... hehehe

i live in so. cali too you're house must be big...

hong dao! yes.. thats the viet name... she really love ady like a "blood sister" ^^ when china girl came... she was like.. go back to china where you belong... really want yu hao and xyz together in peace... she is so sweet.

i don't have that kind of money.. 250? *sticks out tongue*

My house is small xD. I wished I had a 'sister' like Hong Dao! xD. I really hated that China girl. I don't have the kinda money for that too. Rather get myself a new iPod since my Mini is jacked up. I am going to get my hands on this series. I'll bug my mom to death to get me this series >;D Actually I'll threaten her to not do her K-dramas no more xD. I'd do the whole Camcorder thing but I don't got time. =X

oh.. mom likes k-drama's? i watch k-drama's on tv.. channel 18 and 44 lol!!!

i just refreshed my hate for that china girl.. grr.. she just gets in the way of everything... i dont know how those bad guys could say that china girl was like yan zi... no way! yan zi is too go to be compared to the likes of her! anyways...

you're house is small.. you just have alot of vcrs... lol

Haha xD. My mom absolutely LOVES Kdramas. Damn, she stayed up to 1 AM to finish a Kdrama. O.O I think the guys said that the China girl looks like Yan Zi because she kinda has her image when she was innocent before. Straight hair & stuff. Just that the China girl is a total b**ch. She wants something that she know she can't have. I don't like to watch Kdramas on TV. Gosh I hate the commercials! So I go download, hardsub & burn it into a dvd (x.

lol... i'm patient with k-dramas.. dont know why.. i watch with sub titles lol.. sometimes without.. i just look at the pictures as they go by... not with the outsiders no no no.. i better understand every word they say.. in mando... if only you could understand mando like you could watch it... after watching both versions i think i like mando version.. dont know why.. maybe the expressions are meant to be by i like viet version to... the dubbing voice is not bad.. but still prefer original.. thats why i searched for it in china town lol

i guess you're right.. they both have straight hair.. that china girl and yan. but i dont like them comparing her with yan... just another reason to finish them off i say.. smack them silly then finish them off... thats what those bad guys deserve~!

I think you can consider the China girl, somewhat of a whore later on xD. I prefer to watch things in their original voices too. Just there's only subtitles up to episode 6 =\

the people at D-addict are probably working on it who ever it is... but i think sometimes the subtitles can be distracting when watching a series not in your language... sometimes.. kinda like the k-drama i watch.. i'm glad i can understand the outsiders.. want to let my ears concentrate on their voice and my eyes concentrating on them instead of the words ^^

china girl - whore lol

Only one person is doing the subs and she barely has any time T.T China girl is a whore xD

I hope she will have time for all the fan's sake and yes... china girl is a whore.. i mean surely she knows yu hao does not love her and yet.. she give into the poor man when he is not in his right mind... she just wants him even if it is just his physical body.. i dont like that... i dont like that at all...

You can check my youtube links below my sig. for episode 1-2, english sub....sorry, thats all I have with some MVs and trailers.

^ thanks! ^^ shall check them out to see is this good. but erm where's ur sig? i see no link...btw is there like vcd/dvd? cuz im pretty lazy to download...

http://www.youtube.com/group/jeddy

here is the links....is just streaming video, good qaulity thou...anyway....not vcd/dvd.

you can check close rental stores for those... the store i go does have it but that doesnt mean some of the rentals stores near you dont..

Same here. I guess she was trying to get Yu Hao to like her, when she obviously knows that his heart is to Ady (Man I keep forgeting her name in the drama xD) I really dislike the China girl, god she pisses me off! Why didn't Hong Dao (viet named) kicked her back to where she belong XD