niko-chan ~ AHHH kame's so cute in that pic with 2 of him LOL. his expression is priceless <3 thanks for sharing that!!

piggie-chan ~ haha that clip of maru kame wanting the same lighter is funny XD i love them all XD but jin won and screamed SO HIGHLY/LOUDLY lol

mimi-chan ~ lol the funny thing is, jinnarrs tend to not like kame, except people who like kame doesnt mind jin at all o__o so.. yeah. lol you should check ou tthe jin thread here. alot of kame bashing all the time ^^"



SAME, out of all his dramas, this has got to be the worst, except i think he played it pretty well - but then again, im biased. The girl just couldnt act at all o__o she was SO emotionless and it made me want to cry LOL gahhhh.


LOL i think nearly everyone did



ARE you serious? sapuri did better than tatta? wahhh. i liked tatta HEAPS more than i liked sapuri - but then again, some jap people might've watched it for the sapuri girl (i forgot her name!! ><) but kame looks damn hot in the promotion for sapuri xP

exactly, which is why i don't go there anymore
>_____________>
sigh.. i remember the good old days.. before all these jinnars came and were all obsessed with jin and only jin x_______x
when most of the people in the threads liked the whole KAT-TUN group
sigh........

i really didn't like itoh. she looked like a bug
and yes, her acting was crap
geeez, those kisses were so unpassionate
like, i would mind a lot of they were passionate... but stilllllll wtf! no wonder the ratings were low
no chemistry at all..

i liked tatta more too! wtf
i think i like anythign more than sapuri x______x

ahaha.. i used to go too. but the thing is, it seems to have a chain reaction. one jinnar doesnt like kame, and suddenly they're all infected XD (i've tried to defend kame there before.. but it just doesnt work) ~ and now i just avoid going altogether, because i'm afraid i might become anti-jin if i stay there long enough. It's bad, i know, but fans of members tend to get to me ~ and if they constantly bash on kame, i'll sorta.. think badly of jin.. somehow.. lol


oh my god. she is absolutely horrible. she can not show ANY emotions, none whatsoever (even in densha otoko) KJ@%@LK5j but i guess the age gap plays a role, i mean in gokusen1 she was a teacher, and in gokusen2 kame was a student o__o so uh. LOL


i was happy in a weird sorta way


oh but also, the thing about tatta is, it was during the time jin just went on hiatus, and apparently alot of kt fans in japan boycotted watching this show (what i heard anyway) ~ might not be true. but apparently =/ i dno, i rather liked it. it's a shame they dont take the people who dl these shows into consideration XP

i really dislike those jinnars i'm not gonna lie
because they were always comparing kame and jin
omg, jin's so much hotter and better at singing and what not
really annoys me because they're so biased >_>
and yeah, like i said in the akame thread, it got so bad that i didn't like jin for some time because they were always talking about how great he was and what not and truthfully.. he isn't THAT wonderfullikeomghe'sthetopoftheworldandeveryoneelseispoop

the age gap was the point though, lol
sigh, they could've gotten some other actress though.. x_x kame and itoh didn't match at all

yeah. i know about the boycotting thing which is stupid
what does jin leaving have anything to do with kame, unless they were just watching the drama because the jin-kame-KT relationship.
yeah, but technically downloading would be illegal xDD so its good that they don't consider that hahaha
but only if kame knew about it... becasue then he would know that ratings really aren't that bad and wouldn't work his butt off x______x

T____T GRRR fangirls... wait they don't even deserve to be called fangirls... they can be so cruel. And the yarakashi stuff too. MAKES ME SO PISSED.
Like the famous old incidents when the yarakashis were harshly biased towards Jin and made Kame cry...
and I've heard more recently (after his return) there were yarakashis yelling at Jin things like "Why'd you come back?!" or "You should have never come back!" and other crap like that.

yeah same, and the bad thing is, the ratio of jin to kame fans on this forum is like
50:1 o__o honestly, theres just too many of them to argue with.
i agree. jin is probably the better singer of the 2. but i dont think kame comes very far behind (and i like his voice more than jins anyway)

and in acting wise: kame is winner hands down
personatliy wise: kame wins again (jins a bit cocky sometimes)
lookwise: i dont know.. theres just something about kame that i love o__o LOL
(honestly though, sometimes i just dont like how jin looks, theres something about him that in some photos i just dont like ~ but those photos are all hyped up like "yadayada he's so hot.." when really in THAT photo, he isnt?)
fashion wise: kame has more styleee <3 (eg. cartoonKT - kame dresses WAY better)

meh, well that's what i reckon anyway.


i know T___T it's horrible. okay if you dont like kame, but as IF always bash on him, just because he competes with jin for popularity (actually kame's more popular in japan) and outshines each other -____-


ditto! the chemistry was just not there. at all. argh.


LOL yeah, but actually. some jin fans DID do that; boycott kame's drama because they like jin better (doesnt make sense.. but meh crazy fangirls dont make sense)
~ it was bad, considering kame worked so hard on tatta and sapuri, and then the ratings sorta sucked.

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AHH piggie-chan ~ are you seroius?! that's horrible.. i thought those stupid/crazy fangirls had left T__T dammit. i hate yarakashi. okay if you dont like the person, but as if yell hurtful stuff like that..

WHOA Rin posted a minute after me xD I just love it when something like that happens.

It just makes me pissed because Kame works so damn hard... remember what he said on Oshare-ism?! ONE TO TWO HOURS OF SLEEP during the filming of dramas! T_________T

although jin does beat kame in the humor area
which is what i think most fans look at
if you're funny, you're cute and adorable
if you're not, you're lame
it's sad. sigh.

yeah. in some pictures jin has these horrible bags which i don't find attractive at all
yet jinnars still think it's gorgeous =_=;;

i really don't get what attracts so many jin fans to AF and not kame fans!
which is totally lopsided, becasue yeah, kame is so much more popular!
its not fair.. sigh..

i mean, jin didn't even get that many drama roles
all he does is sing and shake his body
while kame acts, does all that, and put 290840239% effort into it

ARE YOU KIDDING ME AGAIN?!??
i got SOOOO FREAKING ANGRY WHEN I READ WHAT HAPPENED TO KAME
gahhh, getting mad againnnnnnn
wtf, those people have no right to say that >______>
but also, since there were so many kame fans there, i wish they beat them up >______>

but poor jin omg
i didn't know about that... that's so horrible
gaosdijgalksjdg

i know T__T then to get such crap ratings because a bandmember left (wth?) is just bullsh*t.


Yeah.. pretty much. = = but kame's hardworking and he's serious and mature. how can you hate on someone because they're mature and not baka. and the funny thing is, there's a lot of kame-hate, but when you think about it, even if kame isnt the BEST in KT, he's definetly not the worst, so why is there only kame bashing? eh? if they're talking about singing, i think junno sings worse than kame, yet no one ever talks about that.

it's just purely because they're jealous that kame is at the same/if not high status that jins at.


i know o__o; if you look around at KATTUNLOVE LJ, theres SO MUCH kame support o__o but then here there's like hardly any. and at differnet forums, theres heaps of kame support too. just not here for some reason..


and kame's actually GOOD, i mean cmon, he won best supporting actor for gokusen2, and best actor for nobuta - which was his first leading role and his first supporting major role (you cannot count that 3gum3 something sensei)

the boy's talented.

and the thing is, true fans don't know that the probable reason for kame's "lameness" is because he's probably so tired and everything from working too hard
so they automatically judge him like that grrrrrrr

i know right? i think they're just jealous that he has so much support and are sick of hearing him i guess
just have to face it, kame is more popular than jin globally

yeah. so that's my point. jin doesn't do as much work as kame, but he's still "better"?
i don't think so >____>
what really irks me is when people say that KT's success is due all to jin. sure, jin brought in heaps of fans coughcoughalthoughtheyonlylikehimcough but still.

i just had a KT vs NEWS battle with my friends xD it was 2 against 1-me xDD
compromise that NEWS is better in the cute department and KT is better in the hot department lol
better than NEWS is more goodlooking than KT which is RAWR!

just because he doesnt act like an idiot people assume his lame. somehow. but i thought he's rather funny when he's comfortable (signal backstage, oshaerism, cKT etc) He's really quite entertaining to watch. (kame and maru pretty much keep cKT running o__o the others hardly, if ever talk very much)

But then they use times when he's uncomfortable against him (summary backstage. you can just feel the tension of kame vs PIN)



right on:
[spoiler] these are just some info i found v. interesting regarding kame support in japan
1. his con goods are always the first to sell out or sell the most of
2. he's voted like 5th most "hot" man in japan, whereas yamapi is 12 and jin is 17. (see below) ~ and he's the only one from like their age group that made it to top 10 (the rest are oldies)
3. he's voted 2nd most sexy man in japan in 2006
4. for 2006, he won the "best jeanist" award, (which is pretty much popularity.. because everyone looks the same in jeans >_>) lol
5. he's voted as the most impressionable person for Commercials

an an magazine's poll of most popular/hot men

<2006年>
*1(-) 7723 [ +600 ] Kimura Takuya (SMAP) ※1st place for 13 years straight
*2(-) 6089 [ +127 ] Fukuyama Masaharu ※2nd place for 8 years straight
*3(↑4) 5271 [+2174] Nakai Masahiro (SMAP)
*4(↓1) 4820 [ +533 ] Okada Junichi (V6)
*5(New) 3362 [ New ] Kamenashi Kazuya (KAT-TUN)
*6(↓2) 2927 [ -781 ] Kusanagi Tsuyoshi (SMAP)
*7(↓1) 2713 [ -555 ] Tsumabuku Satoshi
*8(↓3) 2612 [ -800 ] Katori Shingo (SMAP)
*9(↑2) 2491 [+1073] Inagaki Goro (SMAP)
10(↓2) 2154 [ -650 ] Sakaguchi Kenji
11(↓2) 1933 [ -639 ] Takizawa Hideaki (Tackey & Tsubasa)
12(↑11) 1834 [+1403] Yamashita Tomohisa (NewS)
13(↑2) 1323 [ +460 ] Nagase Tomoya (TOKIO)
14(↓4) 1155 [-1147] Odagiri Joe
15(↓3) 1096 [ -259 ] Domoto Koichi (KinKi Kids)
16(↓2) *910 [ -44 ] Domoto Tsuyoshi (KinKi Kids)
17(New) *853 [ New ] Akanishi Jin (KAT-TUN)
18(↓2) *755 [ -64 ] Ninomiya Kazunari (嵐)
19(New) *722 [ New ] Koike Teppei (WaT)
20(New) *683 [ New ] Nishikido Ryo (NewS,関ジャニ∞)
21(New) *643 [ New ] Hayami Mokomichi
22(New) *609 [ New ] Eita
23(New) *592 [ New ] Sakurai Sho (嵐)
24(New) *576 [ New ] Tamaki Hiroshi
25(New) *523 [ New ] Tsukamoto Takashi
26(↓5) *461 [ -93 ] Matsumoto Jun (嵐)
27(New) *397 [ New ] Wentz Eiji (WaT)
28(↑1) *347 [ +26 ] Narimiya Hiroki
29(New) *344 [ New ] Tanaka Koki (KAT-TUN)
30(New) *331 [ New ] Koide Keisuke

[/spoiler]


true, jin helps in bringing in crazy international fangirls, but kame's the prime fan..getter. LOL in japan XP


i agree with that, NewS is pretty much the cuter band, whereas KT is hot xP (and sing better cough)

OMG I really hate... any sort of fight... and taking sides. I'll defend the one I think is right, but not go against the other. > <;

Have you SEEN the views for the Real Face versions?! Jin has twice as many as Kame. Here in AF Jin's thread is twice as long.
Yeah I'm not hating Jin and yes his voice is good but seriously, Kame deserves some more love. He's the one who really cares what others think of him... he's a perfectionist and won't rest till he pleases fans... and exhausted the hell out of his body trying to do just that.

It's not fair he has more fans when Kame works harder. You don't see Jin talking about getting an hour of sleep every night. You don't see him talk about weight loss or gain.

its not really a fight
anyways, if they're always bashing kame in the jin thread, why can't we say stuff about jin here
and its not like we hate him anyways. the jinnars completely destroy kame on the other hand.
really, kame probably does twice the amount of work than jin. can that account for nothing? while jin sits back and is just naturally great at what he does.
i mean, he's so forgetful and baka i read once that he makes up dance moves if he forget them. while kame probably works to get it perfect.

summary was .. horrible. for kame.
sigh. because that's what JEnewbies usually watch first anyways
but that's what creates the first impression, adn then they won't go and watch the other stuff

yeah, they say he may be the next kimutaku
that's HUGE! so how is he at all horrible

kame's japanese fans are all busy and they don't know english which is why they don't come here xDDD
haha idk.. its just weird.

YEAH OMG
"Kame's too skinny"
"He's like a monkey"
"His hips don't match Jin's"
"His voice is only second best in KT's to Jin's"

Gosh. T___T
OMG Summary... T-T I felt SO bad for Kame...


I KNOW RIGHT! I hate that. T___T
"Life's not fair."
So that means for whoever else, it IS fair?
And how can Jin keep... surpassing Kame?!

Nah but the thing is, i dont hate jin, i just dont like the jinnarrrs ~ i quite like jin actually, when there isnt so much hype about him that you'd think he's god or something.


yeah, but that's what i meant by international fans. Jin has WAY more international fans, whereas kame has more japanese fans. (probably because they get exposed to kame alot and like his personality) whereas alot of international fans sorta just judge kame on looks.


honestly, he's so make it =) i've heard that before too. alot of people think very bigly for him (lol bigly) for the future =) and he's still young. and he has a massive fanbase. and aww <3 he's gonna be the next big thing though, you just know it =)


trust me, you do NOT wanna go there. = = they slaughter him every 2nd page.


i think that's true o__o ~ but even about international fans, theres like so many more in other forums (johnnys pretty boys etc) that love kame more than jin. this one is just mass jinnar populated. hahaha

"Kame's too skinny" - big whoop, all johnny's are skinny unless they work out coughjincoughpi
"He's like a monkey" -........ HUH
"His hips don't match Jin's" - yes, jin's hips are mesmerizing. and kame can't do it because he's so skinny so it looks mechanical XDD i still find it sexy though. put a few pounds on his hips, and he can be just as good as jin
"His voice is only second best in KT's to Jin's" - jin's voice is uncomparable P and you really can't say that about any member of a band because tehre will ALWAYS be someone who is better than the rest

i can't bring myself to hate jin because of his looks and his VOICE<3
but sometimes the jinnars make me wanna hate the hell out of jin @____@
but this is kind of a drawback.. because then jinnars would be like, ha ha see you can't hate jin which just proves that he's better
pfttttttttttttt. total bs.

yeah, exacly. i don't even hear much news about jin actually
while kame is bigbigBIG!

good thing they don't come here. even though we have less kamers here, they'd be so dead. so. so. dead. just pull out the global statistics and they'll shut up.
its a bit sad that we're at a disadvantage though.

yeah but do you see his ARMS <3 they're so defined and awesome and toned


true! but kame dances and acts better. that should make up for it, right? XP


argh, man it's the fans themselves that make me dislike jin a little. not jin. which is unfair. but i can't help it

i dislike yamapi for similar reasons


lol, if any anti-kamers came, i would pwn their ass faster than anything o__o
and statistcs DOES show that kame is better than yamapi and jin kame is very. very loved. and popular.

ahhh, guys i should really go now, i have exams tomorrow LOL <3 kk i'll seeya around like wednesday >=D or thursday or whatever haha. Mimi-chan >< hope we get to chat again soon! Piggie chan! you never go on when im normally on o__o except i'll be on on wednesday =)

his arms are gorgeous drool
i don't like the buff types either

kame's dancing may be better, but jin's is still more erotic xDD
but at least he's really energetic about it.

yeah, same with me.
i truly like jin almost as much as kame. kame has a certain charm that draws me to him..
but like, with these fans tehre are sometimes that i just wanna strangle something

exactly. so they better steer clear. i don't think they'd want anythign to do with kame anyways xPPPPPP except bash him more. which i will so not allow >_______>

lol gambattee! goodluckk. i have them from thursday-tuesday gahhhh the stress
and here i am wasting my time on AF ahahah

Wednesday... *keeps in mind*
Man we had intense... um... chat todaynight.


YES HIS ARMS. LOVEEEE. They are quite muscular<3


True... you can't compare voices since... say, Jin is better in range, but um.. Koki's voice is better for rap...

Kame DOES INDEED dance better I mean, Jin just shakes his hips really well. D: Also Kame strips better.

Oh hey keep in mind that I, a Jin fan, am also a Kame fan...but plz i hope to see no JIN bashing out of anger..
To bash on Jin, or somewhat bash on him, just because some are bashing on Kame would be very...well stupid I'd think.

Plus keep in mind that Jin draws a larger range of fans
These fans are NOT for the most part into POP or boybands or JE or anything like that
The J-rockers are drawn to KT for the rebellion and to Jin because he is the closest to J-rock and has the voice that can prove it (yeah ok i listen to some rock XD)

As much as I don't like them bashing on Kame (who I end up defending in the JIN thread half the time or just ignore them) the Jinnars in this forum are not, for the most part, like the Jin fans you'd find in other areas. Some are just very critical. And I won't lie I get mad half of the time.

Kame is more popular than Jin but Jin is popular despite the fact that he does absolutely nothing. Since we're in a forum where there's MANY different fans, it makes sense there's a lot of Jin ones. If you were in another JE forum of course Kame would win.

They're both great people...and I've stated a thousand times if there would be anything that would make me dislike a member it would be the fans....yet I'll try to hold on.

As Jin fans slaughter the more quiet Kame fans, its like the KAT-TUN fans slaughtering the NEWS fans because NEWS is well...has nicer people. Face it if you're into anyone into KAT-TUN you're already the top of the food chain.

As a really big fan of BOTH kame and jin everyone WILL have to admit Kame is a better actor and that Jin is a better singer. No one in Jin's thread has said Kame is a terrible actor. They all have said or have heard how great he is....so don't worry they don't bash him. They're being truthful. WHen it comes to "kame trying hard" then it becomes opinion

As for my opinion
Jin is a more natural dancer
Kame is much better at technicality
if you've watched Kame is soo good at...ballet. Jin SUCKS!!!!!

Don't worry I'd never bash them out of hate only for fun

Anyways why don't you guys bash Jin? Cuz you probably actually like KAT-TUN...i'd hope. There's not that many people who like Kame and DONT like jin rather than the other way around (since i've said jin draws a stranger crowd outside the regular pop one)

And plus Kame has gained 8 pounds
you can't call him skinny anymore
he weighs more than maru and ueda..

Ummm first. I like your icon. xD

Mwahaha. You've written a whole essay here, um... if I read my Katakana right, Manonakanichi... you can correct me on that.

Yes, but there are people out there... *sigh*


Ballet? o__o xDDD;


Of course we love KAT-TUN We're also fans of Jin here too. Just... not fans of Kame-bashing.

i wouldn't really call what we said about jin bashing yet. we haven't been really cruel towards him.. as compared to what others have said. just comparing both of them, like the other people do.
and plus, we like jin anyways. =___= while a majority of jinnars don't like kame. and that's really just frustrating.

oh really? jin has a voice for rock? his voice was always the most soothing for me... xDD

and yeah, there are so many jinnars here that support him so much more that they're so.... cruel. =/ and i just really can't help not liking them.

and haha, i agree with the NEWS vs. KT thing. its really funny seeing what type of people go for which group.

the thing that annoys me.. of the little i read in the jin thread, its almost as if they're blaming kame for forgetting his lyrics and messing up jin's harmony >_> so he screws up once in a while, big whoop. the way they said it was just so negative against kame.

kim-chan ~ i dont think we really bashed jin, at all on this thread

we acknowledge that he's a good singer and dances awesomely (and erotically) ~ but it's some of the jin-fans which are really pissing us all off.

like you said "They're both great people...and I've stated a thousand times if there would be anything that would make me dislike a member it would be the fans....yet I'll try to hold on."

i just can't help it wherever i turn, i seem to get kame bashings and jin praise and it just pisses me off how one-sided and biased people can be. (and it's not like i go to the jin thread to look for this stuff.. it's even in the KAT-TUN thread!) It's just really, really frustrating.


true, but i dont understand why it's like that.

it just seems alot of jinnars on this forum (not you, just SOME others) are very obnoxiously one-sided in love with jin. and it's their opinion, i guess - but doesnt stop me from hating on them though.


lol but to them..

jin --> forgets his lyrics = cute (like in their recent cons) i havent heard one con rep that didnt say jin forgot a lyric somewhere (although understandable that he was on hiatus)
but, kame probably has stuff on his mind aswell.
he forgets a line and he faces the firing squad.

ahhhh you know, i said i had to go study. but i just can't keep myself away from AF. it's horrible.

Yeah, Jin's got a lovely rock voice (but yes it's soothing too!) I LOVEEE how his voice gets... a bit scratchy almost when he sings his bit in Real Face after the chorus (atarashii shatsu nugisutete zubunure natta kayoubi wo waraitakya waraeba ii)

Also, anyone recall the I Hate KAT-TUN LJ (I think) or some community somewhere, some people commented saying they blamed KT for NewS being less popular, now THAT is just stupid. They can't accept that KT pwns. Seriously, KT can't control their popularity. -________-;

Yes haha I'm manon/akanichee


And Kame is really good at dancing
In kaizokuban before KIZUNA. And he does pirouettes really well, leaps (kizuna), just he's very good with choreograph and technicalities. And well of course I think he's a sexy at hip shaking too XD.


Haha i wasn't really saying u guys were bashing him. Just I hope you don't.

Ah but the fact that Jin does nothing rubs a sensitive edge for a few (like me I feel that...he needs more).
Esp those who were drawn in during the hiatus as to WHY jin left or What were the problems with JIN and JE...why is jin getting nothing?? And when Jin comes back, why does he still get shoved to the back? (that's what others are saying). But i'm just hoping he'll be back to his glory soon.


Well the jrock isn't like...american scream your head off rock
I think it requires some more vocal I guess


Just ignore them. I got used to it...XD sadly


You really don't want to mess with KT fans. They've got some mean ass fans.


Ah...well its always like that, they analyze the "big" guys in KT notice they don't care for the rest much....they're going thru vocals (can be rather boring...)
There are times when they really discuss Jin's voice in there..........I have had the misfortune of reading thru some of those discussions XD but believe me if Jin's bad, then Jin's bad.

Anyways to sum it up yes they're just jealous that Jin blah blah is the best singer but he's not in the front...............................Just like tegoshi is the best singer in NEWS but Pi was the frontman.

kame can do the scratchy voice thing too
XD In never again hahaha

O______O WHAT? i hate KT group?
good thing i didn't know about it >________>
that's something unavoidable in the entertainment industry hahaha

i know i can't take criticism on my favorite member
but you know, i've tried to deal with it
yet sometimes i just crack. @_@

and right now, i'm going to sleep and studying my butt off haha

after replying. XD
yeah, i did realize that jin got almost no projects
but it seems that here, jin's always being praised and kame's bashed when he does more.
but bleh whatever.... i don't really know anymore *_*

and haha, i was just arguing with my NEWS friends and they brought up that they liked "happier" music and "cuter" people and stuff
while KT is more cool and sexy so i guess that brings in.... less friendly people
not saying that you guys are mean or anything. haha

HAHA okay nice to meet you, Manon-chan... I'll just go by that since you listed it first. > < I'm Piggie.


Mwahah *goes to rewatch*





Yeah. It makes my heart break. > <

Kame messing up the harmonization in Yorokobi was... funny. And at least he smiled it off. I wish everyone could do the same.

Maybe in this forum yes. But there were some terrible Jin bashings when he was gone (you've been a fan for awhile so you'd know) esp from haters like choscandy.

Many fans were furious in KT LJ when people were saying "oh I don't care that Jin is in it" and there were quite a few skirmishes...

And i know you're not bashing him i'm hoping you wont thats all.

As for the jinnars yes at one point i hated some of them but I've known them for awhile now and I know what they say and I know where many of them are coming from. If you're talking about someone who is popping up into the KT thread maybe it would interest you if I told you
[spoiler]she's changed considerably in my view. If you don't like her now imagine when she first came here-----it was Jin and JIN ONLY, but she likes Pi who cannot sing well...rather interesting.[/spoiler]


Yes but that's because KT fans did a I hate NEWS one first.

LOL that group was the funniest group ever of a comm.

but what i reckon, is NewS sorta took away some of KATTUN's fans. i mean, KATTUN was a unit long before NewS was formed, and their debut got pushed back to let NewS through. so isnt it the other way around?

haha, they were posting stuff like "it's kattuns fault that i called a girl at school a b*tch today.."
LOL

it makes me laugh how stupid some fangirls can be =D

kim chan
[spoiler]
yes.. and she also likes fahrenheit.. and jiro. and have you heard them sing? like actually sing live? eerrrk.

but it's not only the kame bashing, it's junno bashings too. well practically, she doesnt like JINDA aswell.. so. basically. she ONLY likes jin =) why would you post in the KT thread bashing kame/junno? keep it in the jin thread at least o__o
[/spoiler]


yeah, i was really quite upset for jin back then too. but it's gotten better now for him. whereas on this forum (and i practically live here lol) theres stacks of kame bashing, that's why i'm just ranting..


=) i dont think we'd sink to that level, no.

KT's debut might've been pushed back to let them gain more popularity too...
was pi popular before the time NEWS debuted anyways? because if he was, he cold've probably boosted NEWS
but i don'tk now anyting haha

there are KT fans that like NEWS, but i don't think there are NEWS fans who like KT
=/
hahaha, its sorta like this jin-kame thing
eh.

Wow. o__o; Scary, over fangirly fangirls are just... harsh.


YEAHH something like that... I was too irritated to read through
Do you mean NewS is older than KT (cus i think it is) > <
NVM didn't read closely

Whew. I'm glad I haven't been a fan for TOO long. I just really hate these arguments.. and let's discuss... umm more lighthearted issues. Like... that Kame gained weight like Manon-chan said.
And that I'm really slow and didn't find the download for the RF SINGLE (yes their debut single with GLORIA and Will Be All Right and the karaoke versions) TILL NOW. = =;
And that KT will be on TV more these upcoming weeks.

Btw---Im also Kim so thats what ppl call me piggie but you can call me whatver u want


Pi was the most popular Junior then and I think he's the most popular now out of the You&J fanlisting (KT K8 and NEWS). But in polls he always wins XD~
And yeah NEWS fans don't wanna step it up I guess to a hardcore group. AHha.

Rin
[spoiler] yeah i realized after she came back for a bit in the Jin thread she had become waaaay into Jiro. She doesn't like JINDA...but neither do I. Yeah shes obviously only into Jin and that's how it was since day one she came here. So its not like there's anything you or I can do to change her mind. It's not as if she was originally a KT fan and deserted them. But the only reason I used to dislike her was her UBER LONG POSTS concerning nothing but of J-rock and how Jin would be awesome as a Jrocker...now she's much more mellow and actually talks about KAT-TUN. Jiro probably changed that chick lol.[/spoiler]

piggie-chan ~ nono, like KATTUN was a jnr UNIT for like 6 years. and everrryone was waiting for their debut.. and suddenly NewS debuts o__o yes. you can understand how angry everyone was

(example: yahyahyah in 2 yrs time, preparing to debut. and then suddenly a completely NEW unit was formed with Yuuuto or something)

That was why KATTUN fans were very angry at NewS lol.

I dont get how it could work the other way around though, KATTUN debuted after NewS was
suspended no? Johnny was just looking for someone to fill the gap i reckon.

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Yeah, yamapi was like king jnr since forever. but then again he always got more coverage than akame when they were younger. yamapi is basically like Yuuto now XP (yuuto is gna be huge.)


yeah he does i think. (some) but seems it's been shifting to akame recently this yr and last.

AHha...KT fans were mad at ALL the groups when KT never debuted....
moreso arashi which is the hot topic in LJ

I think....what most fans are worried is...kittty (from kitty GYM) debuting
since hikaru would be taken out of ya ya yah

TANAKA'S DRAMA'S RATINGS + KAME IN IT

01 11.5
02 08.7
03 07.6
04 08.0
05 08.3
06 09.4
07 08.5
08 09.1
09 09.7

EPISODE 9 = 9.7 ~ highest since the first episode <3

everyone's been waiting for this, ne? so it seems.. kame does make an impact.. even though he was only in it for what.. 5 minutes? haha. awesome =)

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kim-chan ~ ehh i like yahyahyah (well mainly shooon, and taiyou's okay) but i dont really care much for hikaru xP (and i don tunderstand why hikaru and yabu get so much more coverage than shoon. shoon is LOVE)

i want kisumai to debut XP - i like kento LOL

oh yeah i watched the kame parts since i didn't want to DL the full one
his hair is soo...straight

ahh i'm not much into the juniors really
i only paid some attention to kisumai cuz they dance very well with jin but my friend loves ya ya yah---but yabu reminds me of kame

Wow, what's this thing about bashing? Kamenashi and Akanishi were being bashed? Ouch. Meh. I do recall something about him being bashed while he was away. I went to one website, where someone totally tried to road kill him with insults. Of course, I think the owner of that website nearly got annihilated. And I think painfully.

I didn't know that fans were that furious. Sheesh. What is up with them?

[spoiler]You got an intersting perspective towards all us Jinnars? Especially about that one paticular person who was "Jin-and Jin only." ButI must ask. Who would like Yamashita while liking Akanishi-san? [/spoiler]

Ahh, midare-chan

[spoiler]
not ALL jinnars, it's just SOME on this forum. you definetly not one of them, who likes to constantly bash kame, which led to the whole thing above

yada yada kaboom splash.

Who would like Yamashita while liking Akanishi-san?

ehh? lol alot of people like yamapi and jin dont they? o__o except i'm not one of them XP if it was out of pin, JIN ALL THE WAY
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ehhh? yabu reminds you of kame? how so? lol they don't look anything alike! (and yabu is quite popular, whereas kame was quite. not so popular chibi days)

if anything, i'd think yabu be the next yamapi

-- i like kisumai because they dance REALLY well, i saw this clip of kento dancing and i nearly fainted. honestly, that kid dances better than like kame o__o lol. (dammit he's younger than me though ><)

i'm not very into their rollerbladey routine though =/

Ahah the more popular u are the more bashing you get. You don't see Nakamaru ever getting bashed do you? He's pretty good at dancing...fairly good singer not annoying no drama.
hah well fans are weird. Whatever you know? They're all nuts like us!
The spoiler...is that for me? I'm Jinnar XD but I view from both sides as a Kame and Jin fan....wait ur Yamapi Q confused me...i like yamapi and jin>? Huhh? I like all three Jin Kame and Pi...


Iono Yabu is very Mr. MC leader etc XD
Yamapi isn't the MC in NEWS its more like...koyama

I was about to say "Why do you hate me? I'm a Jinnar too. "

I don't understand? What is go great about Yamashita Tomohisa?

yeah, i guess kame IS the MC guy for KT (it's nakamaru too, now)
maybe i just dont like yabu that much XD he's cute.. but not.. that awesome



lol i love nakamaru, he's such a funny guy <3 and yeah, no one ever bashes on him =/
Well it doesnt really matter actually. i love kame and heaps of other people love kame - despite what some may think


great question. go ask it on the yamapi board. i so dare you LOL

but im pretty sure.. 95% of jin likers also like yamapi..? or i'm wrong. lol go ask the jinnnnars XP


lol i love you midare-chan xP lol jokes. but you're cool =)

no offence to the people who likes yamapi, but... hes kind of ugly now, like i LOVED him when he was in 2003 instead of kame, like come on.. look at him now, he looks to mature (which i dont really like) and he doesnt even look like hes 22 years old! he looks more like hes in his 30's.. but hes ok.. but kamenashi is still #1!!

anyways the problem with Pi is that I don't think anyone knows him tell well. We know Kame well, we know Jin well....but no one knows Pi. He is my third favorite but I know tons more about everyone else than him...I love him for his acting talent ^___^;; well he's actually really funny and hes hot...ah but the most interesting thing about PI is his flexibility to take on different characters. Akira-->kurosagi. The interesting thing about Yamapi is whatever character he is currently playing he takes on that sort of persona in his photoshoots and how he acts...at least that's how I see it. He's sort of like Kame- he does what he's told to and doesn't cause trouble. He gets along for the most part with everybody. He's baka, trendy and loves food. LOL. Senpais like him, he's just a great all around guy. He's smart, is going to university and isn't a troublemaker. Plus I admire him for being shoved around in so many temporary units and groups, not complaining, and being able to be so successful as a solo artist. Pi achieves many things And hes hot...did i mention that.

coookies Kurosagi look is definitely FOR THE WIN! So hot...The problem with Yamapi, and I know this is bad but I am really attracted to........his black hair. LOL. No interest whatsoever in his hair now, or his hair back in the day when he was skinny...

geez i dunno even really WHY yamapi is one of my favs if i like his hair so much. I mean I got Kusano and Tegoshi who i think i totally know better.

Honestly, if i hadn't been such a bigHUGE kame fan before watching nobuta wo produce, i'd probably be a diehard yamapi fan right now =)

but since i was so into kame XP he sorta took the attention away from akira, and i found myself always looking at shuji XD hahahaa

[spoiler]
I think yamapi looks good with his kurosagi hair too, i hate his hair right now. he looks old, except trying to have a very YOUNG hairstyle (that suits massu more than him)

i HATED his dragon zakura hair. o__o i dont know why.
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Ooo saw this on KATTUNLOVE:
KAME"S DOCOMO AD



<3 kameeee's billboard XD he's so pretty
and apparently this billboard was HUGE

more here:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/Kaid...25/SSL11304.jpg

and cartoonKATTUN II you promo billboard



CREDIT: sadaoru

IT's so pretttttty. nakamaru junno and ueda looks hot and koki looks good with hair. he should grow his hair T__T - kame looks awesome as always =)

So you think I never read some post here eh? Well Ive been watching all KT threads to despam it lately.

Peepz, if you have problem w/ me say it directly. You know what I dislike? Talking behind my back.

If you have problem w/ me liking Fahrenheit~well it'll probably give you some relief how I criticise the group in Fahrenheit's own thread~not only me thsoe sensible fans actually. I simply know how they svck live singing and dancing. But maybe you can give some credit for Jiro's knowledge about song composition in rock genre? duh!

I never thought that Kame fans are too sensitive~you criticise the guy for not singing as good as Jin or giving some opinions about him being trying hard then you're bashing him.lolz! i actually never saw any kame bashing like this in Jin's thread. I dont think anyone actually compared kame to Jin in the whole sense like some of you are doing. Funny~
oh yeah~ probably bcoz Jinnars are quite confident on what Jin could do and whatnot eh~

Criticism is different from BASHING. Or so I thought. maybe here its the same. You throw one word about Kame that wouldnt pass for a fangirl taste and its bashing? Welcome to the real world! Constant bashing? I actually wonder whats that. I dont mind a Jin bashing tbh~

srsly, I dont like JINDA~ But I like Ueda's talent~ I also think he's the most technically proficient out of KT.

I suggest you guys dont judge someone just bcoz she mostly talks of 'JIN'~ I had given my reason why I dislike Kame technically and personally. My opinion on Junno's vocals is technical thingy. Someone told me so bcoz I asked someone who knows it better.

Funny that some of you couldnt even say my username directly when its pretty obvious that its me. I only hope Ooe~chan isnt included in those Jinnars some of you hate, the girl has been pretty active in providing Jin~KT related stuffs. It will be hypocrisy that you're talkin to her and then you actually hate her behind her back. I couldnt even think of some Jinnars who's constantly "bashing" Kame on Jins' thread.

Well yaone I'm just joking but everything I said I don't mean any harm or anything everything I've said I've said before to you whether it was back months ago or whether it was now. I have told you you changed and I don't have a problem with you liking fahrenheit at all, and actually I feel really stupid that I just didn't mention u outright; and back then yes I didn't really agree Jrock posts but ehh ok I feel really stupid. I'm not going to lie tho Yaone I don't dislike you- only reason I put it in spoilers is so that it wouldn't show up in Kames thread--and when I talk about others usually I'll put it in spoilers... but ahh i suppose...and no I don't dislike Ooe. I talk to her on MSN many times and after while I understood where she's coming from so I don't dislike you nor do I dislike Ooe- I do realize you guys are critical yes but I realized like a few months ago its not bashing its just constructive stuff... I apologize for talking behind ur back but I didn't really mean any harm by it...........T__T not trying to suck up but yeah I think my posts rubbed off the wrong way from what I actually meant. I was more amused XD............................yeah ok i feel really stupid. and i keep on editing this goddamn post with all my errors.

I didnt take the words srsly and I really dont care if somebody hates me.lolz! Pls read some posts again or I probably misinterpreted what has been said~ fangirls in general in Jin's thread~yeah right I can believe that. Try again next time.

Nope! Its not Kame bashing~ If you want some real bashing I can give it to you. Bashing is saying things that has no basis at all for the sake of degrading one artiste. And Kame's so called bashing in Jins thread is simply all about his voice w/c is Jins best area. As for KT's thread~ well thats probably the reason why I need to stop going there again.XD
Someone mentioned why Junno hasnt got criticism while kame has loads? I voiced it out and Im bashing in the middle of something? lmao! yeah right.

Srsly, Kame forgetting his lyrics has been criticised eh? In Jin's thread? Or maybe some are exagerrating things? Or some people can form their own conclusion so easily? lolz!



simply the pot calling the kettle black.lolz! Well its your right anyway.

Not all the Jinnars in the Akanishi thread, constantly decide to bash or criticize Kamenashi-san for whatever reason. Period. This sort of action is hardly seen in the thread.

Yaone-chan and I'm sure some other Jinnars who probably read all this are probably upset because they're being accused of this. Why turn on them like this? Is it because they pay special attention Akanishi-san and less of Kamenashi? Or is it all just about the bashing?

I hope Ooe-chan is not being despised. That missy should be respected. Certainly, she does criticize. But she doesn't mean to do any harm, as well as all the other Jinnars who critique. They wouldn't degrade Kamenashi-san.

Bashing is cold comments given down by an individual. These comments can be inane or dispicable. When it's criticism is only means to correct or judge something that can be improved for the better. Criticism given constantly is still criticism. Bashing given constantly is still bashing.

This hating has to stop. It is venom for everyone here in this forum. Everyone is going to start arguing and then there's going to be a big fight, which I (and I'm sure many others) do not want to see here. Otherwise, stop it.

Srsly Rin~ Ooe mostly criticise KT and Kame in Jin's thread. If you can name 2 forummers in Jins thread who's 'bashing' Kame then thats either me or Ooe. I couldnt think of somebody else who's very vocal about it. Pls just dont deny that you or someone else specifically talk of Jins thread in your little discusiion there.

Kim,
[spoiler]Srsly now~ I dont care tbh.I know my faults on Jins thread. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]this is stupid

cut to the chase

we hate kame bashers
all the kame bashers coincidently are jinnars
they were bashing kame on jins thread
we were discussing our dislike for jin fans bashing on kame
i mentioned you as an example for "junno bashing"

you tied it all together and took it as a personal attack? it's your choice really. I never once said i disliked you or jinnars. i dislike jinnars bashing on kame. i can't get it any more clear. More the act than the actual people. but whatever. take it whatever way you want.


they shouldnt be, none of it was targetted specifically at any person in particular.

if it were jin being bashed, im sure that person would've been slaughtered by now.
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as i said earlier. if you wish to continue this discussion PM ME ~ this all will probably just be deleted as spam anyway.