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Rin.
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NEWS openings are usually in the 200,000's and thats also what they got for their return single...KT has just been exceptionally high, but since we're USED to it we want them to do well still XD!


yeah, i guess our expectations for KT are already sky high lol ~ but still, they're still doing really well =) compared to other JE groups, so that's good

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But I'm talkng to a online friend I just kinda met... and she hates Kame. O_O;;;
I never thought I'd see the day...


lol but actually, i know alot of people who hate/dont like kame o__o; ~ for some reason kame has alot of lovers/haters

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Oh, KT's sales have mainly been higher than NewS... o_o;; Can't figure out why. XD; yet


tongue.gif obviously because they're the better group >:D
flowgel
QUOTE(Rin ~ AkameLove @ Jun 9 2007 8 18 AM) [snapback]4009793[/snapback]
Here you go, flowgel

Talk + Perf of Yorokobi no Uta on Music Statin (08.06.07)

MU: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JDFYRMMW
SS: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ny1q9t
MF - part 1 : http://www.mediafire.com/?29hmomnbqlp
part 2 : http://www.mediafire.com/?95b9mgli6ml

credits: KATTUNLOVE @ LJ

thank you!! i was having trouble looking for it! XD i love jin's hairstyle! and they all look so hot!
this is the first time they performed this song in public right?
JinForWin
QUOTE(hiddenhappiness @ Jun 9 2007 6 57 PM) [snapback]4011654[/snapback]
This is, completely and totally random....
But I'm talkng to a online friend I just kinda met... and she hates Kame. O_O;;;

Check the Jin thread there's tons of them that don't like Kame ahah.

QUOTE(hiddenhappiness @ Jun 9 2007 6 57 PM) [snapback]4011654[/snapback]
Oh, KT's sales have mainly been higher than NewS... o_o;; Can't figure out why. XD; yet

KT had better promotion since day 1 (obviously real face)
Plus they had really famous writers like Bz's
KT I believe caters to a larger audience who like pop as well as maybe some rock (loads of J-rockers like KT) NEWS is fantastic but I dunno many Jrockers...
Plus the songs advertise for a drama?? BnMd--the writer was famous. Ppl who liked the drama and who liked the writer bought the music...not necessarily liking KAT-TUN.

Of course YnU is a different story...song isn't that great, writer...who? And drama isn't as popular.

QUOTE(Rin ~ AkameLove @ Jun 9 2007 7 07 PM) [snapback]4011688[/snapback]
tongue.gif obviously because they're the better group >:D

Ahah Nessa (hiddenhappiness)'s favorite group is NEWS so be careful biggrin.gif
Mimi x Kame
NESSA-CHAN HI! i haven't talked to you in sooo long haha

i don't get it.. what's to hate about kame :PPPP
seriously though. what has he done wrong or anything. lots of success and maybe a little too serious and hardworking sometimes but other than that, idk what to think. =/

yeah, since KT debuted with more popularity
their starting point was already really high
and we expected them to keep up or exceed that point.
Rin.
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Check the Jin thread there's tons of them that don't like Kame ahah.


ditto hahaha. everytime i go in there, there's some sort of kame bashing at some point XP

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KT had better promotion since day 1 (obviously real face)


hrmm, but you'd think NewS would be popular, since yamapi is pretty much the most popular guy at the moment (unless im wrong, i dont follow the popularity polls very well) ~ so they would buy it just for him?

but o__o only 200k sales on hoshi? that was their "re-debut" song though T__T i would've bought it. i love that song lol - FAVOURITE NewS song i reckon =P

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NEWS is fantastic but I dunno many Jrockers...


Yeah, you're right. KATTUN sorta has a wider range of fans i guess, and news mainly targets teenagers, so meh - that could be a reason

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Ahah Nessa (hiddenhappiness)'s favorite group is NEWS so be careful biggrin.gif


lol. i noticed ninja.gif

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i don't get it.. what's to hate about kame :PPPP
seriously though. what has he done wrong or anything. lots of success and maybe a little too serious and hardworking sometimes but other than that, idk what to think. =/

and plus i think that kame gets more material than many other boys jin included

~ so, i guess, people keep seeing kame too much over their fav. and would probably cause detest? lol i dno, (eg. i didnt like seeing yamapi ALL the time when it was NewS stuff - like no anyone else, just yamapi when i absolutely love teshi and ryo)

and about the serious thing, yeah, kame's pretty serious for his age o__o but soon enough, all the boys will become mature, so i dno haha

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and we expected them to keep up or exceed that point.


i dont think they'll ever exceed Real Face TBH..
Mimi x Kame
before KT's debut, it was pretty much about jin and kame
so NEWS probably doesn't have as much popularity just with yamapi

yeah. i think its jealousy or something
xDDD well. maybe not something that strong. but something about all his popularity.

well.... yeah, because real face was the best single.
but we .. i know i expected something even better than RF after their debut
especially since the song was so good, i thought it would bring more fans = more sales next time
but .. that didn' t happen =/
JinForWin
QUOTE(MiKame @ Jun 9 2007 7 39 PM) [snapback]4011777[/snapback]
i don't get it.. what's to hate about kame :PPPP
seriously though. what has he done wrong or anything. lots of success and maybe a little too serious and hardworking sometimes but other than that, idk what to think. =/

what ppl tell me: he's fake, sings bad, is boring
DD:

QUOTE(Rin ~ AkameLove @ Jun 9 2007 7 49 PM) [snapback]4011816[/snapback]
but o__o only 200k sales on hoshi? that was their "re-debut" song though T__T i would've bought it. i love that song lol - FAVOURITE NewS song i reckon =P
Yeah, you're right. KATTUN sorta has a wider range of fans i guess, and news mainly targets teenagers, so meh - that could be a reason
lol. i noticed ninja.gif
and plus i think that kame gets more material than many other boys jin included

Thing is people say "i wouldve bought it" but they don't XD
so no sales increase right?
Plus KT sells like....7 versions of real face. 8 versions with the boxset version. 3 versions of BnMd. Fans buy all versions!
well hwm is still selling ok
they're like...iono 360,000?? or somewhere mid 300,00's
yamapi i still see as solo.....i wonder if any JE boy can do as well as yamapi can do solo...
and jin doesn't get much material at all XD

anywas besides yamapi the popularity is spread out
theres a lot of love for each member u'll realize compared to KT.
the biggest problem with kat-tun is that...the majority love only one member and not the whole group. Technically tho i wonder if kusaxuchi were back if they'd do better but...thats not saying much since jin is back and they did worse!
Mimi x Kame
alksdjlfkajslkdjg
he's boring cuz he's so hardworking
and he doesn't sing bad...
wahhhh i wanna cry.....

i think jin could compete with yamapi as solo
his voice is just amazing. hehe.
although yamapi is probably more popular... jin could just shake his hips and gather more fans xD
haha joking but.. yeah..

sighsigh
that sucks. because KT's personalities are so diverse so people won't like all the other members
=((( booooooooo them.
i think NEWS would do better.. since people were anticipating them so much
unless a lot of them are fake and gave up on them o_O
Rin.
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what ppl tell me: he's fake, sings bad, is boring


~ well boring: i guess from summary backstage? haha, that is like the thing that would hurt kame's rep the most, summary backstage. it was cringeworthy for me >< i was like feeling so bad for him the entire time.
~ fake? hrmm, well i think he can conceal his emotions the best in KT. Like when he's bored/unhappy, he doesnt let it show - as like, compared to jin: where it's very obvious when he's bored
~ i think his singing is good though =/ so no comment here lol

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yamapi i still see as solo.....i wonder if any JE boy can do as well as yamapi can do solo...

but from the very beginning, i think they promoted yamapi as a solo artist (and his solo songs do better than like NewS' songs - daite signorita? lol) ~ but then put him in NewS to promote the other boys too.

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the biggest problem with kat-tun is that...the majority love only one member and not the whole group.


argh i hate it, when "KT FANS" refuse to listen to KT songs if it doesnt have their favourite member, or if it was a solo of a member that isnt their fav.
(jin's hiatus was a great way to get rid of all those fake "KT FANGIRLS" ~ all the "only jin" lovers sorta left this forum)

as much as i love kame, i love kattun more than him. honestly. KT pwns kame's ass LOL jokes. but still. the group is what's the best for me.

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i think NEWS would do better.. since people were anticipating them so much


yeah, plus, NewS is composed of like THE best JE people at that time that were free. so they're really quite talented.

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although yamapi is probably more popular... jin could just shake his hips and gather more fans xD


yup, jin is definetly a contender ~ haha, his hip thrusting is mesmerizing. o__o
!stevie_G!
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Check the Jin thread there's tons of them that don't like Kame ahah.


KT had better promotion since day 1 (obviously real face)
Plus they had really famous writers like Bz's
KT I believe caters to a larger audience who like pop as well as maybe some rock (loads of J-rockers like KT) NEWS is fantastic but I dunno many Jrockers...
Plus the songs advertise for a drama?? BnMd--the writer was famous. Ppl who liked the drama and who liked the writer bought the music...not necessarily liking KAT-TUN.

Of course YnU is a different story...song isn't that great, writer...who? And drama isn't as popular.


Im one of those who dont like Kame~XD Im very vocal about it anyway~I feel a certain dislike towards him. And c'mmon if you dont like someone its not as if you're bashing the guy if you throw some criticism on him. Srsly, I used to like Kame, I probably wouldnt be curious of Jin if it wasnt for Kame. But he blew it in some way when I watched him performed w/ KT. I simply dislike his style to death! The more I watch him the more I dislike him~he's not suave but over and he couldnt pull it off!! But acting wise~I really think he's very good.

Well yeah~ KATTUN is kinda popular w/ Jrock fans Im wondrin that myself at first. I know loads of Jrock fans who like KT's kind of music.XD

BTW~ Dont you know that Kattun has also been discussed in a 'racing forum'? lolz! I was surprised yesterday when I entred Kimi's general thread.XD
Mimi x Kame
i think that's the way johnny works.
he makes a couple people really popular
then puts them in a group to promote them
like with kame and jin before their debut. now the other members are just as popular, but to get the initial popularity before their debut was mainly on kame and jin.

i know right. >_> it annoys me.
KAT-TUN is a really great group on their own with great music
if kame suddenly left or something.. i wouldnt give up on them or anything.

NEWS also gets along really well with each other
and they're really playful also. so i guess more people like that
i know my friends do. well.. the 2 of them that like JE like NEWS more.

rawrrrrr boooo...
the only thing that annoys me about kame's style or whatever.
is the way he crouches over when he sings xD
it bothers me. like he's hunched or something. haha

actually, i think only KT's best of and real face were kinda rockish. the rest were poppish. o_O
kryeowook
alexei: haha.. which means ure gonna rob tat girl of akanishi stuff.. phew.. i feel so lucky i like ueda buahahaha... yep we had better stop the spamming here i am so excited bout their new single hmm.. i wonder if kat tun's gonna combine all their singles together into one whole album.. i'll definitely buy it!! ^^
!stevie_G!
Rhodesia, Butterfly, harukana yakusoku, Realface, Peak, BnMD are some really good songs from KT. Rhodesia is actually more rockish than Real face. Real face though are more technically arranged.*sorry but its Tak Matsumoto.bleh!

Rin.
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i wonder if kat tun's gonna combine all their singles together into one whole album.. i'll definitely buy it!! ^^

eto..BnMD and SIGNAL are in the recent album and also YOU (which isnt really a single.. but you know)
Yeah, maybe like in a few years, they'll make another "Best of KT" and have all their singles LOL i dno, doubt it - but i dont think they'll be combining anything too soon.
JinForWin
QUOTE(Rin ~ AkameLove @ Jun 9 2007 8 42 PM) [snapback]4012017[/snapback]
~ well boring: i guess from summary backstage? haha, that is like the thing that would hurt kame's rep the most, summary backstage. it was cringeworthy for me >< i was like feeling so bad for him the entire time.
~ fake? hrmm, well i think he can conceal his emotions the best in KT. Like when he's bored/unhappy, he doesnt let it show - as like, compared to jin: where it's very obvious when he's bored
~ i think his singing is good though =/ so no comment here lol

The thing is kame is a hardworker so he tries not to let other things distract him wink.gif
Anyways singing wise I like him but not everyone does.
As for boring and fake I guess ppl don't know him well enough to say that biggrin.gif He really is entertaining. Just not in backstage. ahahha.

QUOTE(Rin ~ AkameLove @ Jun 9 2007 8 42 PM) [snapback]4012017[/snapback]
argh i hate it, when "KT FANS" refuse to listen to KT songs if it doesnt have their favourite member, or if it was a solo of a member that isnt their fav.
(jin's hiatus was a great way to get rid of all those fake "KT FANGIRLS" ~ all the "only jin" lovers sorta left this forum)

HAha yeah theres...some ppl i'm irked with.
However the thing with many Jin fans in the forum is that from day one I knew that they only liked Jin. And since they're into the best singer, so be it. If they say "i always liked jin only" i don't mind AS much~ So i never cared as much as those who say they liked KT but turned out they didn't. That just made me angry.

QUOTE(Rin ~ AkameLove @ Jun 9 2007 8 42 PM) [snapback]4012017[/snapback]
as much as i love kame, i love kattun more than him. honestly. KT pwns kame's ass LOL jokes. but still. the group is what's the best for me.

You rock wink.gif altho I tend to uh favor Jin and Kame I still love them all loads.

QUOTE(tiffa666 @ Jun 9 2007 8 44 PM) [snapback]4012025[/snapback]
Im one of those who dont like Kame~XD Im very vocal about it anyway~I feel a certain dislike towards him. And c'mmon if you dont like someone its not as if you're bashing the guy if you throw some criticism on him. Srsly, I used to like Kame, I probably wouldnt be curious of Jin if it wasnt for Kame. But he blew it in some way when I watched him performed w/ KT. I simply dislike his style to death! The more I watch him the more I dislike him~he's not suave but over and he couldnt pull it off!! But acting wise~I really think he's very good.

Well yeah~ KATTUN is kinda popular w/ Jrock fans Im wondrin that myself at first. I know loads of Jrock fans who like KT's kind of music.XD

BTW~ Dont you know that Kattun has also been discussed in a 'racing forum'? lolz! I was surprised yesterday when I entred Kimi's general thread.XD

Ahah well most people like Kame initially through his acting
Since he's a much better actor smile.gif But of course Jin comes through in the singing and he catches ur attention instead as you try to learn more about Kame---u just run into jin XD

Why is it tho that KT is that popular with J-rock fans? The image of being "cool?" The music with a slight rock edge? Or is it mostly Jin they like since out of JE jin could fit the J-rock image the best? But its cool cuz the ones I know (including yaone) are very critical so you get some good feedback rather than "OMG I LOVE THAT SONG" (and thats about it)


QUOTE(MiKame @ Jun 9 2007 8 52 PM) [snapback]4012049[/snapback]
i know right. >_> it annoys me.
KAT-TUN is a really great group on their own with great music
if kame suddenly left or something.. i wouldnt give up on them or anything.

Wouldn't give up but wouldn't like as much XD

QUOTE(MiKame @ Jun 9 2007 8 52 PM) [snapback]4012049[/snapback]
rawrrrrr boooo...
the only thing that annoys me about kame's style or whatever.
is the way he crouches over when he sings xD
it bothers me. like he's hunched or something. haha

Ahah man we know the Kame stage movements so well
He bends over
and like points and stuff...tilts face towards the left so u see the right side
well Jin has his own things too....

QUOTE(kryeowook @ Jun 9 2007 8 57 PM) [snapback]4012066[/snapback]
i wonder if kat tun's gonna combine all their singles together into one whole album.. i'll definitely buy it!! ^^

KT is known to be the first in doing many things
So i wouldn't be surprised it that happened.

QUOTE(tiffa666 @ Jun 9 2007 8 59 PM) [snapback]4012072[/snapback]
Rhodesia, Butterfly, harukana yakusoku, Realface, Peak, BnMD are some really good songs from KT. Rhodesia is actually more rockish than Real face. Real face though are more technically arranged.*sorry but its Tak Matsumoto.bleh!

KT had just really different ones and yeah rhodesia was one! That was a surprise for me...Peak I didn't like as much... ah i love BnMd tho biggrin.gif
Rin.
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Wouldn't give up but wouldn't like as much XD


yeah actually, i admit, i wouldnt love KATTUN AS MUCH ~ but i wouldnt give up on them entirely.
maybe at the beginning of my fangirl phase i would've but not now, not after i got to know everyone in KT and actually appreciate their songs.

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Why is it tho that KT is that popular with J-rock fans?


i guess it's because KT has some rock songs (well they're meant to be the "rock" group - compared to like arashi/news) ~ and you must admit. alot of their songs are VERY catchy LOL

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The thing is kame is a hardworker so he tries not to let other things distract him wink.gif


yeah and kame's more of a family orientated guy, as opposed to friend orrientated. He seems to prefer spending more time with his family than like going out with his friends. and somehow that makes him seem unsociable =/ somehow.
!stevie_G!
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Ahah well most people like Kame initially through his acting
Since he's a much better actor But of course Jin comes through in the singing and he catches ur attention instead as you try to learn more about Kame---u just run into jin XD

Why is it tho that KT is that popular with J-rock fans? The image of being "cool?" The music with a slight rock edge? Or is it mostly Jin they like since out of JE jin could fit the J-rock image the best? But its cool cuz the ones I know (including yaone) are very critical so you get some good feedback rather than "OMG I LOVE THAT SONG" (and thats about it)


Well yeah, Jin's image onstage performing is different. He doesnt need to try hard it seems so natural. Just like how Kame acts in doramas.

I think they become more exposed when you said Realface=Tak Matsumoto. I mean why? Why Tak composed for them eh? Or i guess bcoz of Jin's voice? Even someone I know who doesnt like KT's music like Jin's vocals, usual line like "he's the guy who can actually sing w/ style in JE and he's not boring'.

And theres a lot of Dir en Grey fans who's really into Kattun~ Its more like an opposite poles more than anything eventhough KT's music is kinda rockish w/ some RnB/hip hop style Dir en Grey is simply different.Its hard to understand fans 'ya know.XD
But being 'cool' is also a factor, KT has something more of an attitude compared to other boybands.

JinForWin
QUOTE(tiffa666 @ Jun 9 2007 9 50 PM) [snapback]4012217[/snapback]
Well yeah, Jin's image onstage performing is different. He doesnt need to try hard it seems so natural. Just like how Kame acts in doramas.

I think they become more exposed when you said Realface=Tak Matsumoto. I mean why? Why Tak composed for them eh? Or i guess bcoz of Jin's voice? Even someone I know who doesnt like KT's music like Jin's vocals, usual line like "he's the guy who can actually sing w/ style in JE and he's not boring'.

And theres a lot of Dir en Grey fans who's really into Kattun~ Its more like an opposite poles more than anything eventhough KT's music is kinda rockish w/ some RnB/hip hop style Dir en Grey is simply different.Its hard to understand fans 'ya know.XD
But being 'cool' is also a factor, KT has something more of an attitude compared to other boybands.


Ah yeah Kame + acting= better everyone agrees.
JE did a good job then with KAT-TUN
they managed to draw in fans other than the regular JE ones
Great promotion then...except come on do something as good as real face!!!!

As for attitude....yeah ahah they do have an attitude
I mean all the senpais just Don't like them!!
I was looking at a JE management poll of the boys
like who they liked the best etc etc.
KT was in none of them whereas NEWS (esp tegoshi yuya ahah) made up the lists.
I mean KT used to do things their way...they don't wanna have to listen biggrin.gif
akaNISHIkido
QUOTE(赤西仁と @ Jun 10 2007 1 12 PM) [snapback]4012258[/snapback]
Ah yeah Kame + acting= better everyone agrees.
JE did a good job then with KAT-TUN
they managed to draw in fans other than the regular JE ones
Great promotion then...except come on do something as good as real face!!!!


I used to hate kame
but ok, after KAT-TUN i think he's...bearable:D don't kill me.


QUOTE(赤西仁と @ Jun 10 2007 1 12 PM) [snapback]4012258[/snapback]
As for attitude....yeah ahah they do have an attitude
I mean all the senpais just Don't like them!!
I was looking at a JE management poll of the boys
like who they liked the best etc etc.
KT was in none of them whereas NEWS (esp tegoshi yuya ahah) made up the lists.
I mean KT used to do things their way...they don't wanna have to listen biggrin.gif



I think we all love KAT-TUN because they are unique right? hee, not to insult other bands, but i think i prefer them to think more for themselves rather than just let johnny organise everything right? KAT-TUN is like, some group of naughty boys breaking rules in a strict school neh? no wonder the seniors don't really like them...
JinForWin
QUOTE(akaNISHIkido @ Jun 9 2007 11 31 PM) [snapback]4012462[/snapback]
I used to hate kame
but ok, after KAT-TUN i think he's...bearable:D don't kill me.

Why don't you like him biggrin.gif

QUOTE(akaNISHIkido @ Jun 9 2007 11 31 PM) [snapback]4012462[/snapback]
I think we all love KAT-TUN because they are unique right? hee, not to insult other bands, but i think i prefer them to think more for themselves rather than just let johnny organise everything right? KAT-TUN is like, some group of naughty boys breaking rules in a strict school neh? no wonder the seniors don't really like them...

AHha yeah thats what makes them appealing tongue.gif
I noticed many fans who express some sort of interest in KT or their members really really don't like JE so its like.........a rebellion thing. lol. Ur a fan of ryo? So do u like NEWS?

btw 69659→43322→16190→7437→10834 (1.75)-->258 023.5
Mimi x Kame
because KAT-TUN is just different. XD
i think their different personalities really contribute to their appealness
there are some people that like it if the members are all the same like.. cute and adorable and always getting along with each other.
that's how i see NEWs as anyways.. which is why i like KT better
(but i don't know too much about NEWS so yeah xD)
but KT offers a mix biggrin.gif which is awesome because i love having a range of things hehe

jin does have a great voice
and he does a lot of the harmony
so without him KT doesn't sound the same which we saw through his hiatus
but... KT can do well on their own without him too so its not only jin's voice that is their success..
JinForWin
freakin...on LJ someone made a post thats pissing me off.
What a noob! Don't ask those things you'll just freak everyone out esp the other noobs.
Plus its old. ugh. It's about the bad KT fans.
septembermoon16
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freakin...on LJ someone made a post thats pissing me off.
What a noob! Don't ask those things you'll just freak everyone out esp the other noobs.
Plus its old. ugh. It's about the bad KT fans.


LOL i think i know which post you're talking about
death to all the newbies!! heh heh kidding tongue.gif

seriously those lil ones are just calling for some attention
and the only way they can manage is by bringing up crap

AHHHH Rin, yes defend your turtle to the end!! biggrin.gif
i agree w/ you about loving KT as a whole more then any individual
sometimes pple seem to conveniently forget that they're a GROUP
one that consist of 6 members and if you can only like one
well then - you're just missing out and not gonna be enjoying the experience
half as much

there's a huge difference between favoring a member and bias.
unfortunately for some reason a lot of Jin fans seem very very bias
*shrug* everybody got their own opinions

Kame on stage:
perhaps he doesn't come across as natural as Jin
but he's got his own style
adorable things he does that add to the whole concert
I love his little pinky thing!!! biggrin.gif
and don't forget the wonderful fanservice wink.gif

now, say hello everyone biggrin.gif


Mimi x Kame
yeah, i just read that
>__> that's seriously screwed.
knives.. i'm half ashamed half amused
they would spend money on an arashi concert, instead of using it to buy the uberly expensive KT goods.
sigh.
Ava_adorE
mee too! one thing i like about KATTUN is their diversity! it would be boring if they all look cute and really close... i like the fact that some of them dont get along well with their mates sometimes...

i like the fact about jin always pick a fight with maru and junno
and how the guys picks/tease junno most of the time because of his lame-ness
everthing is love!!! i love kattun!!!!
special mention to JINDA!!!! tongue.gif

how come no one make a new thread? were over the limit now....

QUOTE(hiddenhappiness @ Jun 10 2007 9 57 AM) [snapback]4011654[/snapback]
But I'm talkng to a online friend I just kinda met... and she hates Kame. O_O;;;
I never thought I'd see the day...

really? coz ive seen lots...

so they do have their haters ne?
!stevie_G!
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agree w/ you about loving KT as a whole more then any individual
sometimes pple seem to conveniently forget that they're a GROUP
one that consist of 6 members and if you can only like one
well then - you're just missing out and not gonna be enjoying the experience
half as much
there's a huge difference between favoring a member and bias.
unfortunately for some reason a lot of Jin fans seem very very bias
*shrug* everybody got their own opinions

nope! They dont seem to forget~they simply know but you couldnt force anyone if they couldnt like the whole group. Its everyone's freedom of choosing who they like and whatnot.

If you think those who can only like one couldnt enjoy the experience half as much then be it. Srsly, I wonder why you think that way.oh yeah~ Obviously me as Jin fan didnt enjoy when he's on hiatus and KT is not really KATTUN 'ya know. I never listened to their projects w/o Jin . So I guess thats probably you're talking about.lolz! Then again even if Im going to watch and listen to them im not going to enjoy it so what for? XD

Sometimes personal preference does works 'ya know. Its not all about being bias.
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Kame on stage:
perhaps he doesn't come across as natural as Jin
but he's got his own style
adorable things he does that add to the whole concert
I love his little pinky thing!!!
and don't forget the wonderful fanservice

You mean like stripping and showing his skinny body? Well thats probably good to you~but for some others its not. Everybody has their own style, its a matter of liking or disliking those styles. I mean he doesnt look adorable to me in any angle.lolz! He more looks like trying hard.
Thats the reason why I always skip his solos~
JinForWin
QUOTE(MiKame @ Jun 10 2007 1 33 PM) [snapback]4015037[/snapback]
yeah, i just read that
>__> that's seriously screwed.
knives.. i'm half ashamed half amused
they would spend money on an arashi concert, instead of using it to buy the uberly expensive KT goods.
sigh.

every single group has some anti fans that hate other groups
Just....don't bring it up in a community so noobs can freak out XD and so arashi fans can freak out too or something!

Kame tries too hard but I find him entertaining so yeah. smile.gif But I do like him better for acting.
!stevie_G!
^^
I agree~Every group has their share of bashers and haters. The question is into what extent? But srsly, IMO those threatening fans are quite mentally unstable.lolz!


Well yeah~ You find Kame entertaining but some fans arent.I dont think some of you can criticise Jin fangirls bcoz they dislike Kame or not really liking the whole group. Atleast we're not claiming 'ah, we're a KATTUN fan' eventhough we're not. Atleast in my case, Im going to support the group as long as Jin is part of it.

I think the worst fans are those who can change their preference so easily. I hate bandwagon jumpers actually~If theres one thing I hate is those kind of fans as in HATE!!
Rin.
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reakin...on LJ someone made a post thats pissing me off.
What a noob! Don't ask those things you'll just freak everyone out esp the other noobs.
Plus its old. ugh. It's about the bad KT fans.

Yeah i read that too and was like o__o honestly? seriously? and then half the newbies to KATTUN freaked out - but this is old news ne?

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there's a huge difference between favoring a member and bias.
unfortunately for some reason a lot of Jin fans seem very very bias
*shrug* everybody got their own opinions

Yeah true. We can't force people to like the whole band whilst claiming they're a KT fan, now can we?

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nope! They dont seem to forget~they simply know but you couldnt force anyone if they couldnt like the whole group. Its everyone's freedom of choosing who they like and whatnot.

yeah the difference is, we're talking about people who CLAIM to be "KATTUN Fans" ~ if you're gonna claim to be the fan of a group, you don't leave when your favorite goes on hiatus. that way, just claim to be a (insert member's name) fan.

I'm just iffy at fangirls who claim to be a fan of the whole group.

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He more looks like trying hard

Ahh i disagree. Kame might not be the best singer, but he's a great performer. He actually gets the crowd's attention ~ and no, not always through stripping or whatnot. Actually, if you're talking about stripping, it would probably be his 16 seconds act. But then again, i don't think kame's the one in charge of the choreography and it's not his fault so mannnyy of his fans want stuff like that. But thats your opinion.

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btw 69659→43322→16190→7437→10834 (1.75)-->258 023.5

ahhh, i was banking on the weekend to bring them mass sales T__T dammit. 250k is alright.. right? ><
JinForWin
QUOTE(tiffa666 @ Jun 10 2007 4 32 PM) [snapback]4015558[/snapback]
^^
I agree~Every group has their share of bashers and haters. The question is into what extent? But srsly, IMO those threatening fans are quite mentally unstable.lolz!
Well yeah~ You find Kame entertaining but some fans arent.I dont think some of you can criticise Jin fangirls bcoz they dislike Kame or not really liking the whole group. Atleast we're not claiming 'ah, we're a KATTUN fan' eventhough we're not. Atleast in my case, Im going to support the group as long as Jin is part of it.

I think the worst fans are those who can change their preference so easily. I hate bandwagon jumpers actually~If theres one thing I hate is those kind of fans as in HATE!!

Haha well yeah I mean I say I don't like people that are fan of one person only but if they're like that from the beginning then well I can't do anything about it XD. There's just some REALLY annoying people out there that like only one and bash the rest of the members for stupid reasons and they cause trouble. And yeah I don't like those who change preferences too easily either! I think those bug me the most...when they're bored they find something else to occupy them with just because its the thing to do. But well you DO support the group with Jin in it so hey thats something...

Yeah i'm not forcing anyone really to like certain members....i think...

as long as you DONT say "I love kat-tun" and it turns out you don't! I hate that.
Mimi x Kame
and the fans who only liked jin were basically exposed so it's all good
kinda. i really hate those kind of people too. you wouldn't give up on a group just because your favorite member left. what about the other, in our case, 5 members.

about the trying hard thing
that just shows how much he wants to please the crowd
we don't all have that talent to amuse and entertain
so kame's just making the best of it
although i don't can't see him "trying hard" when i watch him.. which is a whole lot xD
hes just very passionate and puts a lot of effort in everything he does
i admit he's not the funniest person.. but at least he makes the effort neh? its almost like junno. lol

hahahaha, kimchee you're always posting like a second before me
that's the second time today xD
JinForWin
omg junno is so lame sauce
hahah
ok everyone in KT tries pretty hard...
well the ppl i don't think try too hard are jin...ueda...i don't know if maru really tries TOOhard....koki tries hard too be sexy and junno tries to be funny but I think hes funny cuz its so stupid.

i wonder what KT will do after June? Just disappear like NEWS did for these two months XD
Rin.
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i wonder what KT will do after June? Just disappear like NEWS did for these two months XD


LOL lets hope not
but then again, they have their cKT show so we'll still see them weekly i guess XP

honestly though, what happend with NewS, theres no news from them lately (pun not intended)
!stevie_G!
nah~ Maru is simply funny, I dont think he's trying anything. He's just Maru~XD
Junno though has a stupid face~ he has a stupid smile too. I thought when I first saw Jin he looks so stupid but Junno had beaten the impression. lolz!


No one wants to create a new KT thread?????
Mimi x Kame
its harder to keep the "cool" image XD

if they disappear that will be so sad TT________TT
but yeah, there's cKT <3

i think there's a lot of tegomass news
from what my friends are always ranting about... =_=;
Rin.
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Junno though has a stupid face~ he has a stupid smile too.

i think junno has a cute face and cute smile thanks.

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i think there's a lot of tegomass news
from what my friends are always ranting about... =_=;

oollala, i heard tegomass was going to TW/china? (i dno some chinese based country) to accept an award or something

i love tegomass biggrin.gif (just the 2 boys, the pairing) ~ i dont listen much to their music o__o
Mimi x Kame
junno's smile
its has two different effects on me
on happy days, when he smiles i smile
but on .. less happy days xD, i'm just like, wtf how can he smile that big
hahaha

haha, i don't like tegomass's music but.. yeah, tego and massu are cute.
its a bit too happy for me i think xD
septembermoon16
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If you think those who can only like one couldnt enjoy the experience half as much then be it. Srsly, I wonder why you think that way.oh yeah~ Obviously me as Jin fan didnt enjoy when he's on hiatus and KT is not really KATTUN 'ya know. I never listened to their projects w/o Jin . So I guess thats probably you're talking about.lolz! Then again even if Im going to watch and listen to them im not going to enjoy it so what for? XD


that's exactly what i meant
why limit your enjoyment to a single member?
what would you have done if Jin didn't come back?
and if you don't try it, how do you know you wouldn't enjoy it?

it really got to me how some "fans" simply disappeared after Jin's hiatus was announced
talk about abandoning ship
that to me just says complete lack of faith

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Sometimes personal preference does works 'ya know. Its not all about being bias.


if it works for you - GREAT no one gonna take that away
all i'm saying is that pple should keep an open mind
and while it may not all be bias, it has a big part in it.
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You mean like stripping and showing his skinny body? Well thats probably good to you~but for some others its not. Everybody has their own style, its a matter of liking or disliking those styles. I mean he doesnt look adorable to me in any angle.lolz! He more looks like trying hard.
Thats the reason why I always skip his solos~


you seriously don't think Jin tries hard?
they ALL do
that's what got them so far
each member just comes across differently
i'm not saying you have to like Kame
its individual taste and personal choice
however there's been a tremendous amount of bashing on Kame
and i don't think that's fair
if you don't like - FIND
there's no need to get nasty

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I think the worst fans are those who can change their preference so easily. I hate bandwagon jumpers actually~If theres one thing I hate is those kind of fans as in HATE!!


absolutely agree
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yeah the difference is, we're talking about people who CLAIM to be "KATTUN Fans" ~ if you're gonna claim to be the fan of a group, you don't leave when your favorite goes on hiatus. that way, just claim to be a (insert member's name) fan.

I'm just iffy at fangirls who claim to be a fan of the whole group.


this seems slightly contradicting...
so you're iffy about those who claim to like one member
and ALSO iffy about those who claim to be fan of the entire group???
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There's just some REALLY annoying people out there that like only one and bash the rest of the members for stupid reasons and they cause trouble.


yea... and for some reason Kame is bearing the most of this..
question is WHY??


Rin.
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this seems slightly contradicting...
so you're iffy about those who claim to like one member
and ALSO iffy about those who claim to be fan of the entire group???

LOL i didnt seem to finish the sentence, but it's around the same drift so i thought it was clear enough xP

I'm just iffy at fangirls who claim to be a fan of the whole group. (when they're only a fan of one member)

lol it's meant to follow on from my above post regarding this

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yea... and for some reason Kame is bearing the most of this..
question is WHY??

I don't get it.. if you're talking about tryhardness - then i think probably koki tries the hardest outa everyone (not a bad thing, just saying) and if you're talking about can't sing, most of kattun dont sing as well as kame (honestly, i believe kame sings better than like junno. but theres no bashing on junno's singing?)

i dont get why kame gets the bashing, unless it's because he's popular, and some fans just can't hack it o__o
JinForWin
QUOTE(Rin ~ AkameLove @ Jun 10 2007 6 11 PM) [snapback]4015834[/snapback]
I don't get it.. if you're talking about tryhardness - then i think probably koki tries the hardest outa everyone (not a bad thing, just saying) and if you're talking about can't sing, most of kattun dont sing as well as kame (honestly, i believe kame sings better than like junno. but theres no bashing on junno's singing?)

i dont get why kame gets the bashing, unless it's because he's popular, and some fans just can't hack it o__o


Hha thats probably the main reason
Well Kame gets a LOT of attention so whoever gets a lot of attention tends to get picked on the most. Yeah sad ne XD there's bashing on Junno's singing but since he's not one of the frontmen no one picks on him as much cuz its not like he's got as much to lose as Kame or Jin....when people want to be mean to Jin they can't say he's a terrible singer (instead they just call him stupid and selfish or whatever) because he isn't (and I think Kame sings ok too don't get me wrong) ....but whoever is the most popular always gets the most criticism and bashing XD esp when people compare Jin to Kame etc. Face it the more people love one, the more there will be people who don't like them either XD. At least they know who Kame is.

Kame...sometimes I feel sorry for him cuz he tries really hard but a lot of ppl compare him to Pi and Jin XD Well he's as popular as Jin yet doesn't sing as well, and popular as Pi in acting but doesn't drag in the ratings as well as Pi XD etc etc--yet he's popular ahahah so who cares right? And the many haters during the hitokoi drama and the yarakashis last year at the concert...well thats why I like him so much cuz he does try his best to please his audience and fans and yet many still try to pull him down. And he's an excellent MC and all the women love him. I think kame tries his best out of KT to make his fans happy. THATS WHY I LOVE KAME -the end. Lol.

crap we're in the KT thread and I was ranting on Kame XD
Mimi x Kame
i know this is completely irrelevant about the topic right now
but what are some funny cute clips of KT?
my mind is at a blank @_@
JinForWin
QUOTE(MiKame @ Jun 10 2007 6 37 PM) [snapback]4015920[/snapback]
i know this is completely irrelevant about the topic right now
but what are some funny cute clips of KT?
my mind is at a blank @_@


....................................................
yeah i'm at a blank too
i'm pretty much a loser when it comes to KT clips
but performances I can come up with lots
Since i liked KT for performances initially
Rin.
Ahh i can only think of this one, mimi-chan

it's not that cute/funny but i found it hilarious (because i know a bit of mando)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tgSiPo6k7Q

it's just them on a winkup - photoshoot

and kame and them sorta scream "i love your mum" or "i love you? (question)" in mando xP
!stevie_G!
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that's exactly what i meant
why limit your enjoyment to a single member?
what would you have done if Jin didn't come back?
and if you don't try it, how do you know you wouldn't enjoy it?

Why limit? Its not limiting~lolz! I support the group bcoz of Jin if I dont pay much attention to them w/o Jin its simply bcoz I couldnt find any enjoyment at all. Its what I feel~not force or anything.geez~XD I tried~ but the enthusiasm of watching them w/o Jin isnt there.

What have I done if Jin didnt comeback? Why asked? I dont think I have the need to tell it to you in the 1st place dont you think? I have so much Jrock stuffs to take care of while remaining a Jin fan.
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it really got to me how some "fans" simply disappeared after Jin's hiatus was announced
talk about abandoning ship
that to me just says complete lack of faith

yeah~ you could tell that to some Jin fans who disappeared neh? Bcoz its not my business in the 1st place. But if you think Im one of those who disappeared then be it. You simply dont know me.lolz! I have no more say on this~ Im confident on my loyalty.


Jin tries had yes~ But his moves looks suave~more natural and not OTT.
Its either you pull it off or not~ IMO Kame couldnt.
Theres also a tremendous amount of Jin bashing dont you think? Everyone has their share of it.
Get nasty on what?geez~ Its opinion unless some Kame fans here couldnt even take a simple criticism.

srsly~ Im always vocal about Junno's out of pitch voice AFAIK.
Mimi x Kame
haha oh yeahhh. haha, the chinese speaking one was cute.. i couldn't really understand them though and i know mando XDD
hahah, kame said "i love you guys"
but it came out as either "i love you?" or "i love you/r mom" because his mispronounciation/accent XD

i'm trying to prove something to my friends
but oh well
i remember saying a lot of "omg they're so cuutee" towards KT clips and stuff
but for some reason i can't remember any of it @_____@

i don't really get what you're saying.. so you like KT because of jin.. but if jin was not there, you don't like KT. uh okay. whatever i'm not going to analyze this.
JinForWin
QUOTE(MiKame @ Jun 10 2007 7 05 PM) [snapback]4016011[/snapback]
i don't really get what you're saying.. so you like KT because of jin.. but if jin was not there, you don't like KT. uh okay. whatever i'm not going to analyze this.


Ah.....that's unfortunately how most would be like.

But actually the ppl in the JIN thread many of them (with the exception of few) did pay somewhat attention to KT....

ah Mimi its really hard as a Jin fan to stay interested in KT when ur favorite is gone. I stayed, yes I love KAT-TUN but do remember I love kame which was a HUGE reason I followed up on them. There were times when I became lazy as well just because Jin wasn't there...

If Kame were gone many people wouldn't follow up as well...if Akame were gone you can bet uhh thats over with,,,

But at least a lot of people have come back. There are those who lost interest when KT was 5 only because there were "better" things out there. dry.gif and don't even bother to follow up on Jin now. Great fans!
Mimi x Kame
hahaha ooookay. yeah.. i guess i would understand how many of them wouldn't be interested anymore if jin left.
although i'd still get slightly irked if those said they were real KT fans.

i say that if kame left, i would still support KT. which i still believe i will if something like this ever happens.
because i like KT for their music, mainly, as well as for the other members.
but whatever. this whole ordeal is making me dizzy XD
septembermoon16
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What have I done if Jin didnt comeback? Why asked? I dont think I have the need to tell it to you in the 1st place dont you think? I have so much Jrock stuffs to take care of while remaining a Jin fan.


its a theoretically question of whether you would have remained a KT fan or not..
and you don't have to tell me anything
its a free forum - watever makes you comfy wink.gif

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yeah~ you could tell that to some Jin fans who disappeared neh? Bcoz its not my business in the 1st place. But if you think Im one of those who disappeared then be it. You simply dont know me.lolz! I have no more say on this~ Im confident on my loyalty
.

why so defensive?
did i say anything about you being one of those fans? LOL
what i said was that there were fans who disappeared
its THOSE fans that i'm calling disloyal

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Jin tries had yes~ But his moves looks suave~more natural and not OTT.
Its either you pull it off or not~ IMO Kame could


that is a personal opinion no?
what you may see is not necessarily what others are seeing
depends on personal chemistry i think

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Get nasty on what?geez~ Its opinion unless some Kame fans here couldnt even take a simple criticism.


again it seems like you're taking it too literally
guilty conscious perhaps? tongue.gif

actually i really don't care what is said
everyone got an opinion and they're free to express
vocal or otherwise
i don't let myself be influenced by that.
I like KT as a group
naturally I like certain members more
but when asked I would definitely say I'm a fan of KT
however not everyone agrees with that viewpoint
thats ok too

when it comes down to it
its what you like
the rest is just for making conversation

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But at least a lot of people have come back. There are those who lost interest when KT was 5 only because there were "better" things out there. dry.gif and don't even bother to follow up on Jin now. Great fans!


yea... who the hell need those anyways?
i've always thought overall that the majority of KT fans are great
but naturally there's always gonna be a few who tries to ruin it for the rest
!stevie_G!
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its a theoretically question of whether you would have remained a KT fan or not..
and you don't have to tell me anything
its a free forum - watever makes you comfy

I never claimed to be a KT fan right from the very start. So that really doesnt apply to me.

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its THOSE fans that i'm calling disloyal

What if they have more things to do than spend time in a forum? Im wondrin myself where are those who actually started Jin's fandom here tbh~XD

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that is a personal opinion no?
what you may see is not necessarily what others are seeing
depends on personal chemistry i think

Personal preference

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guilty conscious perhaps?

nah~ Im always misunderstood and I used to be rude.XD I toned down a bit recently.bleh!

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KT was 5 only because there were "better" things out there

You mean DBSK? lolz! Im kiddin~
JinForWin
QUOTE(tiffa666 @ Jun 10 2007 7 47 PM) [snapback]4016211[/snapback]
nah~ Im always misunderstood and I used to be rude.XD I toned down a bit recently.bleh!

Duude i swear it was JIRO that toned you down. You came back with a baka Jiro.

QUOTE(tiffa666 @ Jun 10 2007 7 47 PM) [snapback]4016211[/snapback]
You mean DBSK? lolz! Im kiddin~

That's exactly 100% on the dot what I mean. And it seriously pissed me off. I totally went crazy ass on someone wink.gif when they became a fan and started bashing KT afterwards...They said they were a KT fan, but afterwards realized they were only a Jin fan to then realize that they Don't like KT because they're not as COOOOOOL as DBSK blahblah. so much for being a KT fan. I mean I like DBSK but i'm not comparing how fantabulous they are and how sucky KT seems compared to them XD~ Ahah yeah ok I'm done with that.

PS ooe tells me KT is singing Your Side on CTKT? soon? I hoope~
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