Is it worth it just to see them dance than sing live? (of course this doesn't always apply.. highly doubt people lipsync every single time they're on stage)

I wouldn't mind lipsyncing if they get rid of their microphone headsets (eh? It's a useless prop in this case) .. or just dance and play the song in bg w/o singing. I'm not blaming the singers, but I guess their company or manager decides whether they lipsync or not?

I don't mind if they lipsync, it's still their voice right? I don't like it when they lipsync to other singers' songs. People these days are making such a big deal out of lipsyncing. The singers have no energy to sing and dance perfectly at the same time. Want one thing you have to give up another.

I would only tolerate lip syncing if the singer is singing a fast song and dancing hard out. If they are singing ballads or songs that have easy dance moves, they need to sing live. Often ppl nowadays lip sync bc their live voice (that is their voice, that hasn't been computer generated, or altered) is REALLY bad ie they can't sing

Agree with you.
If ONLY they are performaning a fast beat and hard dancing routine then I wouln't mind if they are lipsyncing or not. However, it its a ballad and a very easy song to dance to, they should sing live.

I remember watching Sun Boy'z performing one of their songs on their new album and they were lipsyncing. After watching it I was like wow. They should have TOTALLY sing live, their dance routine is so friggen easy. And the dance look like crap, anyway. This kinda prove how much HK Music Industry lacks.

I could absolutely not tolerate artist that lipsync.
However, I agree what honeycomb1010 has to say.
An artist that lipsync when singing a ballad reflects how she really could not sing. *Cough* Twins *Cough*.

i on the other hand would not be too lenient with the lip syncing.

i mean if i pay good money to see the artist and see them work thier magic and prove that they won thier audience with real vocals, then i expect them to do so. i did no go to see them lip sync to something i can hear on the radio...i might as well get a refund...

i heard in korean top ten countdown there was a issue with that. where they said that people paid to see them sing and they are only lip syncing is dissappointing thier fans so they did away with it, and that was when the real talents and the real sucky disappointments came in...

its the artist's choice to either just stand there and sing his heart out while he lets the back up do all the dancing and work, but i guess they want to show off or something.

if Bi Rain can dance and sing at the same time with hard work and training, then i dont know why others can't do that unless they want to mask thier horrible off key voice..

haha. I remember when I first started watching live performances, and I'd be all "o0o yay! they're singing live!" cause of the headsets... but then after awhile I realized that it sounded EXACTLY like the CD (which is impossible if you're singing live) and that the headset was basically a useless prop to 'trick' the audience into thinking that they're singing live. Well, it obviously worked on me.

Anyways... I understand the difficulty of singing live while dancing to a fast-paced songs, but a lot of songs out there have 'simpler' and 'reduced' dances of the original fast song so that the performer can still be able to sing the song live. I think a lot of artists, although they can get through the complicated choreography, aren't allotted much more time to do basic training (like jogging or running) to build up their stamina and lung capacity so they can manage a song AND dance at the same time.

In this era of entertainment showbiz though... managers and people generally care more about giving a perfect 'overall' appearance (complete with perfect vocals, perfect dancing, and perfect stage presence/charisma) than they do about actually trying to manage singing and dancing together. But I agree with MadHatter. I mean, come on, if I paid loads of money (and usually you do) to see this performer sing live and perform in a concert, I EXPECT IT. Otherwise, I might as well just go home and pop in the CD (or plug in my mp3 player) and listen to it that way... Heck, I'll even get a pristine version of the song, not diluted by cheering crowds and unnecessary stage effects.

Another issue that I have majorly with lipsynching is the fact that lipsynching proves that you are an incapable performer. I don't know why many people are always under the [mistaken] impression that if the CD track sounds good, then that person/group can sing (think Britney Spears; her voice sounds so digitized on CD tracks that I can't believe why ANYONE would think she sings well). Live performances are what truly shows whether or not someone can sing. I mean, seriously. There is so much mixing, fading, reverb and five thousand other tricks that sound engineers know to do to make a voice sound really perfect and on pitch. A live performance truly showcases whether or not that person can genuinely deliver that song. There are even a few (very few) performers who actually sound BETTER live than they do on recorded tracks (not a simple feat, I assure you). Celine Dion, Kelly Clarkson, Anson Hu, and a few others come to mind. Recorded tracks simply are unable to capture the passion that they bring to their singing... and their lives are SO worth it. Occaisionally, Mariah Carey will blow me away with her lives as well (but usually they are identical to the CD, just sung with more obvious harmony and she adds some nice vocalizations for fun).

I prefer live throughout. As Nanshi said, it is hard to sing and do complicate moves live. however, I just gain more respect for people who do those things.

I don't mind lip synching some times. I mean, if I heard that certain singer sing live 95 % of the time real well, once or twice lip synching for a very complicated dance song would be forgiven

those who lip sync slow ballad songs really put to shame those who dance and sing live.

well..it depends if the person is a professional singer or just an actor. If they are professional singers with a CD, then I think they should sing live (for easy-moderate songs). I think the singer should prove their singing ability live and not solely depend on all the recording studio effects that can make you sound good. if they are just actors, i don't mind lipsyncing as long as they are singing to their own background voice. I don't expect them to hit the right notes all the time since they are not professinal singers. so for them, lip syncing is okay

i think lip synchin is alright when the dance is
really fast and makes you puff out a lot..

like for twins, i thnk that their songs should be
live cos their dances are not too hard compared
to those like dong bag shin ki;s "O"

well thats just my opinion i guess

well bi kinda slacks on his dance a bit when he dance and sing together....and his dance isn't that hard and doens't require as much energy as lets say DBSG's rising sun and O...in fact DBSG did sing live for these upbeat and dance songs and they don't sound bad at all...but still i wouldn't mind the lip synching cuz you still get to see the dance rite? rite! ^^v i'd rather see him focus on the dance instead of doing a sloppy dance and sounding out of breath... that's better entertainment...plus it's not like they can't sing... we all know they can sing~~~ when they sing slow songs live!

i don't really care as long as it's not ALL the time. even some of the best voices of today like mariah lipsync so i could care less about people like uh.. s.h.e. lipsyncing

i think it is okay to lip sync a fast beat song where they have to dance . its really hard to sound really smooth when you are moving around a lot . artists like DBSK lip sync. but they only most lipsync to songs like O and Rising Sun because they have to dance to those songs. otherwise i dont reallly like it when artists lipsync . its cause when people pay to see a performance . they want to hear their real voices . not recorded ones. if they lipsync, why cant they just watch their MVs and peformances on tv .

Well, I like it when singers don't lipsynch, but it's understandable depending on the song. If it's a fast-paced song and all and you have to dance to it, then yeahh, but on slow songs it's just like :/

i only tolerate lipsyncing he or she needs to dance. if you lipsync..thne you're not a good singer/cant sing the song.

Dance artists particularly need to lip synch, because they need to sing and dance at the same time, and that's very hard, because they go short of breath faster and won't be able to sing the song properly, so they would lip synch, that's acceptable.
But on some award shows, the singers would lip synch even if it's a slow song, and I don't think that's good...but I heard it's because the organizers worry that something might go wrong during the performance, so they require the singers to lip synch instead...so it's not really the singers problem, sometimes organizers don't want them to sing.

Lip sync's ok to me in some conditions, but usually, if i pay to watch a concert or take the time and effort to watch their performances elsewhere, i do prefer that they sing live, cuz that makes it different from the cd, more unique, more special, it won't be like I'm going there just to see the artiste play their cd.
If some singers can sing live, so why can't the others? Especially when they all claim to be this great and that great when they are advertising their new albums on tv. Its not like everyone is expecting them to sound perfect when singing live, everyone knows that there's the surrounding factors to be taken into account and won't blame them that much if something goes wrong.
Singing live have more sincerity and seem like the singers actually puts in effort for their fans and supporters and not just try to make money off them and then try to fool them.

But lip sync's fine if its like all of you guys mentioned, in fast dance, or maybe under requests by the organizers. As long as its only once in a while that they do that.

if lipsyncing is going to be the sacrifice for a good show of crazy dance moves and such i think that the dancing show be brought down a level.
its just more personal and real.

for me lipsyncing is not that acceptable in some circumstances but you can't blame the artist themselves all the time. it's not acceptable if the artist is being marketed as a singer. with all the current technology anyone can sound great on CD but if you ask them to sing live they sound awful no need to cite examples here so why market an artist as a singer if he can't sing at all or sound great without the help of technology?

acceptable in some cases if the artist is a singer and a dancer. well its hard to do both but it would be better if they can do both well. it's hard because they have to catch their breath by doing so.

if they just lipsync then its better for us to listen to them on cd or watch the music videos and not pay to watch them. they're just fooling us then.

I hate lipsyncing. What's the point of listening to singers lipsync when u can actually just stay home and listen to the album? If i paid for a live concert, i obviously want to hear the real thing. Not something that came out of the recording studio.

Heard that nowadays a lot of singers/bands lipsync. It's really disappointing.

Like most people, as long as their dance routine is like hard... its acceptable that they are lipsyncing. Especially during a concert where people pay like hundreds of dollars. But if its like throughout the entire concert, and even through slow songs, then I might as welll bring my ipod along and just listen to it instead.

don't u find it funny when a prerson is lipsynching its like a idiot who is constantly closing n opening his mouth without saying anything

Some people lipsync to pre-recorded (but not CD) tracks. They used to do this a lot on variety shows (I don't know if they still do)... make you go there earlier and record... but it was too loud for you to sing REALLY, TRULY live (they used to have live bands on all the variety shows). Something like that... I would say is better than lip-syncing to the CD.

For concerts, though, I think you can't do something like that. Again, I would be more lenient if this only occurred for really difficult dance numbers.

A lot of people absolutely cannot sing live, though, I find. Even their ballads are out of tune,

i noticed less lipsyncing these days, but yea i hate it a lot and it kinda angers me for some reason.

Lipsyncing is a big NOOOOO.

Seriously. I'm sick and tired of boybands lipsyncing. That is why I dislike TVXQ. It shows that they have no talent at all. I'm sorry to all you TVXQ/DBSK lovers, but seriously, if they can't sing and dance at the same time, then what's the point? ANd i'm not just talking about DBSK, but also SS501, and Suju. Seriously...

Lipsynching is a no no ~ as much as possible~ Thats why they're called live performers~ It svckz~
You dont know the technology of recording.
You think its a good voice eh? Theres a lot of layering during a prerecorded track so it could hide how a lipsynching singers svckz big time.

Miming is like cheating~ Its up to the audience if they could stand it or not~
Im very picky about this situationa nd madopopstars like that rainy yang and cindy wang couldnt sing at all~ And loads of boybands duh!

i will prefer a not-so-good live dan to lip sync....
lets take fahrenheit for example... they sang live... not the best, but they tried, they put in the effort to dance and sing! they tried! so i don't care... they are improving...
but if it is fast... i don't mind u going offtune... Jolin sings live even when she is dancing her hot routine........

worst is when ur OBVIOUSLY Lipsyncing.... and then you come off and complain that you are so out of breath coz dancing and singing takes up so much of ur effort........ *cough liuyifei cough* hell-o, the recorded was playing behind so obviously...(one part it was the electronic type voice... no way u can get that done live)..... shocking......

but other groups... fahrenheit... they use ot lipsync... but then their performances are ALWAYS live!!! Unlike certain artist who are ALWAYS lipsync and never live....

if ur a singer, then u should sing live, unless it is a damn hot routine then i mite forgive, but if it is a slow song... then u should sing live, or else, u can't even be considered a singer! now dat is gonna kill alot of artists... but then, they deserve to be not recognised..... can't sing live, then obviously need the computerisation... then they don't deserve to be known as a singer......

Yes, but TVXQ actually do have talent and plenty of it. Yes they lip-sync on occasion but a majority of their performances are not. Think back on every single performance they have had in the past 3 years.......hundreds, and less than 40 were lip-synced. Not to mention that in every concert they actually don't lip-sync, even while dancing. They do sometimes for TV aired shows.

SS....eh whatever I don't like them and Suju have some bad songs.....those two groups also lip-sync on a majority of their performances.

So yes...you've seen TVXQ not dance and sing at the same time a few times....now all of a sudden they aren't talented? Please....almost every commerical musician has at one time or another had to lip-sync at least once...of course there are exceptions. but to say you hate a group or even a certain sub-set of the musical world is a bit harsh especially over something like this.

Singing and dancing has little to do with talent and everything to do with stamina and obsessively hard work. Yes, they could spend more time working on their stamina but they don't. I'd like to see you do it on a regular basis.

Okay, I'm sorry. I usually don't do the whole 'defending' thing, but I have to stick up for TVXQ. MAN, I have turned into such a fangirl. Okay...

TVXQ may lipsync in [some of] their live performances, but there is no doubt that they are talented. They lipsync more frequently in their recent performances than their old performances. There are numerous youtube clips of them singing a cappellas and lives at radio stations or just during interviews and whatnot (most of it is old though). From those, you can tell that they CAN sing. Granted, it isn't as polished as a recorded track, but that's probably because of issues when harmonization and the harmony notes and NOT necessarily because of their skill. Except for Xiah. Xiah is also soooo pro and impressive.

I will admit though, that they probably don't sing and dance at the same time. Although at the Golden Disk encore performance, DBSK definitely did try to dance and sing "O" at the same time. Didn't quite succeed, but it's a hard dance with a lot of tricky choreography... and it's a long song too. Plus, "O" is a diffcult song to sing even when you are stationary (it's in a minor key... so it's really tricky). I have heard Micky and Changmin sing "O" a cappella once (it's in their "Over the Mountain, Through the River" clip)... and it came out sounding really weird... not bad, just weird because without the music, "O" is a really BAD song... (i don't like it very much; it's just catchy).

I won't comment on SS501 and SuperJunior because I'm not fans of either (although my friends say that SuJu SUCKS at singing, period).

^ HAHA! A majority of suju suck very bad at singing. 5 of them are okay and only 2 are good enough to actually make a solo career an option. That's not saying much with a group of 13.

But I guess that's why there are 13 of them....helps to hide the lack of talent. At least they're funny.

can't believe that jess7ca girl thinks dbsg are talentless
you kidding me?
HAVE YOU HEARD DBSG sing and seen them dance? if they're talentless, then what do you call like 90% of the younger chinese generation of 'singers'?? who lipsync ballads and easy as sh!t songs? The ones who can't sing to save their lives?
gosh farenhait CAN'T SING for crap (sorry just had to get that out. Heard them live, I changed the channel)

they have certainly improved.... they are only new so give them some time... their shanghai live singing was probably the best they have eva done... the awards at hk was crap coz ya lun was sick as crap with a fever i think and srsly... zhi dui ni you gan jue should never be sung without hebe...... bad song choice dats all.. otherwise they are good... certainly improving and at least they try? and improve?

there are others who don bother trying and thus sounds horrifc... eva realise why some artist are asked to perform live and u dun hear them live again? coz they suck so much? at least fahrenheit is still being asked to attend =D

I think Fahrenheit themselves know that their live-singing isn't good that's why they lip-sync. There was one concert in HK called "Wild day out" where different artistes (mostly from HK) attended and from what I've heard all of them sang live except Fahrenheit. And the song they sang didn't require any dancing or whatsoever and they still lip-synced!? People paid 200-400 HK dollars to hear the artistes sing live and not on some cd. What's more embarrassing is that the cd lagged during their performance. (I got this from Kay's fans who were present)

hmm, i personally dont mind lip syncing.. it doesnt really matter to me cuz.. yeh, well, really dont mind it. i mean, as long as it isnt on every single performance, its alright. once in a while would be fine, but if its always, then those that lip sync dont deserve to be singers at all..

as for fahrenheit lip syncing, i kinda agree with Transition. at least in the latest TVBS-G countdown, they did bad, but definately not horrible.. they have yet to improve since they dont really have much experience.. they will improve!

im fine with lipsyncing since they did oringally sing it before.. .. but reading from the other replies.. i agree it doesn't seem right for people pay to hear it live..nd the artist end up lipsyncing..then why not just buy the album. there would be no point of calling it a "live" concert.

To people who say DBSK/TVXQ can't sing live... Um... OBviously, you have never heard them sing LIVE.... If you say they can't sing live, then please name me some boybands/singers that CAN! I think they can equal so called "American singers" in both singing and dancing wise. (And specifically Xiah and Hero, Max have amazing vocals, Yunho can dance amazingly, well don't know about Mickey)

And I think DBSK Have the Luxury of lipsynching to their fast songs like "rising sun" and "O" because people ALREADY KNOW that they can sing these songs LIVE too! WIth DBSK, it's NOT the question of wether they can sing live or not.

Sometimes with the fast songs, yeah, they do lipsynch, but with ALL ballad songs, they sing LIVE. And 70% of their songs in the album are ballads!

And it's kinda bad for them cause when they came out with their 3rd album, they had to be in so many different tv shows/award shows/ one day after next. SO they had to perform almost daily! SO in this case, when they performed "O" lipysnched, I guess it's okay. if they have to sing live almost everyday, while dancing to crazy choreography..... wow... although i want to see them sing live all the time, I don't want them to end up in hospital. Oh and when they sing O and rising sun live, you can't see their perfect dance movments!!! cause they focus more on their singing then dancing...

SG Wannabe and Paran are AMAZING!!! AMAZING LIVE singers.

Farenheit........yes they are good looking! (Jiro is my favorite!!) but OH man... I think they should just stick to dramas... why not just become actors... why singers??? when they can't even sing ballads live???

I think lipsyncing is not good. It shows that the artist don't have true talent and only studio produced, like a Britney Spears that they can't perform live. But on the other hand, I can understand how the artist might not be able to go sing live on the whole concert especially if they have lots of heavy production of dancing and movement. But if its a soft and mellow type, then better not. This reminds me of the Ashley Simpson fiasco on SNL in america. It was so painful to watch. Rule is if you lipsync you better be able to do it well, else don't do it!!

I don't think lip synching is ever okay. Singers are supposed to sing...that's why they're called singers. If there doing a particularly difficult dance number and they don't sound so good, I'm sure the audience would understand and give them credit anyway. No one gets tricked by lip synching, so why do they do it anyway? Lip synching just says to me that the artist isn't willing to put enough effort into their performance as either they did not practice enough, or either they can't sing.

As much as I love Fahrenheit, I get really disappointed at them when they lip synch. I don't care so much that they sound terrible, just sing. They aren't known for good singing anyway.

I don't like lipsyncing, I think it takes out the purpose of being a singer. Yea, maybe if you are singing and dancing at the same time it may be hard but look at broadway singers, they do both and at the same time too! Singers are meant to sing and they could just leave the dancing to the dancers. There are two things about lipsyncing that probably bothers me the most, first that some singers can't even lipsync correctly! It's like wth?! and the second thing is that they don't admit that they lipsync when everyone knows they do it! I don't mind having an artist having a back track when they sing but come on, if you are going to lipsync do it correctly or just don't do it.

I have nothing against singers lipsynching, its the trends nowadays except if the artistes are rockbands.XD I expect more from them since the vocalist doesnt have anything to do except sing unless he's holding a rhythm guitar. Its not even counted since theres the bassist and drummer.

But when you know an artiste is lipsynching esp. being caught?
Is it fine?An embarassment ? Shameful?

Why do you think theres a need for them to lipsynch if they're the so called 'singers/vocal groups' ?

Any clip of the obvious lipsynching? Recently lipsynching is quite hard to notice bcoz singers can do track backing. Groups have the tendency to lipsynch the harmonization part and chorus. DVD live concerts are edited. Studio versions are layered.

It depends on the situation. If the band or singer is dancing one hell of a crazy dance routine, i think it will be okay. But if they are singing like slow songs or moderately fast songs, that is so out of point. Aren't you suppose to be well trained in singing?

i feel that u shld remove the video.because u're undirectly making more ppl know of this incident.sorry if i'm harsh.

u feel he's cute when he drop his mic?? haha.ok la.i feel sorry for him as u can see that he look disappointed at the end of the song.i feel there is nth wrong with lic-syncing if u are dancing cos it is hard!

and many artist do that do,not onli him =)

Most R&B/Soul singers don't lip-sync. Few do. I expect lip-syncing from Pop artists. IMO lip-syncing is a big no-no unless you have to do a rigorous (not simple) dance. If you're just standing there then there's no excuse.

Beyonce sings good live on most occasions. Even while doing complicated dances in 5 inch heels.

I don't think there's anything wrong with more people finding out. If you did it, you did it and you have to live with it. Nobody gave Ashlee Simpson mercy when she lip-synced on SNL.

A truly good singer or a truly popular singer would be able to rebound from something like this.

lipsyncing is a BIG nono
however, there ARE exceptions
if you are singing a song that requires VERY HARDOUT dance steps, you can lipsync
if you are singing a fast song with simple moves, then singing LIVE is a must
if you a singing a ballad, obviously you have to sing live, i mean all you do is stand there

i am fully against lipsyncing...well unless the artist is like doing some cool dance then thats acceptable. I really dont like it when people lipsync though...especially if its at a concert because those people are paying to watch you sing live...not watching you move your lips to the cd. They can listen to the cd at home. i'd rather just hear them sing bad but if your a REAL singer singing live shouldnt be a problem right?

Agree! Especially to those people who are unfortunate and could only afford the tickets to the seats at the back... they hardly see the artists and they get lip-synching... this will totally piss me off if I'm one of them...

I am glad that almost all of my favourite singers don't lip-sync... I know groups like K One and DBSK always have fast tracks and they have no choice but to do so... but other than that, when they sing ballads, they still sing live... hehe... AND sometimes they even do those fast songs LIVE!!!

i don't know about you, but then if im going to shell out money to watch a so called "live" concert, it better be "live" and not lipsynced because first of all:

1. its false advertisement if they lipsynced, its not LIVE anymore.
2. I didn't pay to freaking watch them "make an appearance" do thier little thing and leave lipping something i could hear on my own CD player...what is the point of shelling the money out??

secondly, if bands like DBSK <3 my babies, hyori, forgot who was that japanese artist who sang: smile again, byonce, usher, can do it, and they dance till they sweat at times, espeically the uber hot DBSK, then i do not see any excuse why the other artists can't do the same unless they have a knee injury, then i understand they can't dance, but that doesn't excuse them from NOT SINGING.

its a utter shame to watch when a mic falls or they are caught lip syncing...its like, the first question that flies through my head is....can they NOT sing? they must sound really really bad just to have a edited CD play for them...its like paris hilton or ashley simpson all over again...

if you can't keep up with the song because your out of breath dancing. then think about not doing so many dance steps and just focus on dancing.

Exactly.

Any fool can smack their lips to a song. To me, "track backing" is also an issue. Track backing is when an artist is singing over a pre-recorded version of their song. It's lip-syncing half-way IMO. I only accept track backing for choruses if back-up singers are not available. Track backing for a whole song is just lazy and sounds strange since two voices that are the same are singing in unison.