alright, so fahrenheit aka fei lun hai. this group of four taiwanese guys.. maybe you have heard of them, maybe you havent. but i was just wondering what other people think about them. since from what ive heard and seen, no one hates or dislikes them. i personally like them really much. and i think majority of the people on this forum, correct me if im wrong, likes fahrenheit, or is fine with them.. so are there any people who have a separate opinion about them? please let me know here, since im curious..

I personally don't really like them, don't really understand what's with all the craze for them. I feel like they only have the looks not the substance. I listened to their TVB8 performance in HK and they sang totally off-key. It was terrible. However, there are a few songs of them that I like but somehow they sound really bad Live. I feel like they should improve on their singing and harmonizing before coming out with another album. Their voices don't go together and are too bass la, sometimes even up to the point where you can't hear their lyrics clearly. The only decent out of the group is Aaron, he is so talented and cute. All the others are just pretty boys. They should stick to acting instead of singing since so many liked them first from Jiro's role as Ah Jin in ISWAK and Wu Zun in Tokyo Juliet. Many crazy obssessed teen girls just like them for their looks, not their talents, that's why they are so popular. Hopefully time will tell if they improve or not but I am going to give them 3 years top, then they will pursue individual careers, since boy bands don't last anyways.

i dont hate them...in fact i have their album ><! lol....their songs are ok... but really to me there isnt anything that special abt them. and yes their TVB8 performance is just such a turn off...EVERYONE was all over the place as in OFFKEY!!!

btw im sure there are tonnes who hate them well...just wait they'll come and criticise soon haahaha since their popularity is increasing i heard...=p

i agree they should stick to acting cause their singing is so so...at the tvb8 during their performance, i didnt see a group singing tgt but 4 male singers trying to catch the limelight, they werent tgt at all. yes i know i should give them credit for singing live and trying hard but when their fans dare to say they sing good just make me crazy.
i dunno why they're so huge now but i didnt understand why 183Club and Ming Dao were so popular too so...

some reason boybands in taiwan are always huge regardless of their talent and such...
im not a f4 fan at all, the time they were really popular was when i was like 12 and visiting my aunt there and she pointed them out on tv and i was like... whats so great about them?
jiro's acting is good and incredibly amusing to watch, wu jun is good its just his accent is so damn annoying.
as far as singing goes they have song selection on their side, so even though they sound so so they have really catchy songs that stick with you even though you don't want them to.
i think they're ok, not amazed thou.


lol, i like how shallow girls can be sometimes >.< not saying im not one at times. i guess boybands should be thankful for that though

Yes! we all love them =)
i know they don't sing as well but i still think FRH is a gread band and i really REALLY hate all those ppl that always say, "Taiwan has a bunch of talentless bands." cuze that's really NOt true.
I absolutely adore Jiro! I find him a wonderful actor...yes i know he is kind of 'over' but it's perfect for the 1/2 comedies that he is always in. I would say Jiro and Wuzun are the "actors" of FRH, while
Arron and Calvin are more of the "singers"
i hate it when somebody says "they can't sing" because everyone can it's just that when they all sing together at once it sounds a bit untogether.
i really like Arron's voice, he is the one with the strongest voice and the nicest one.
But other than KO one he hasn't done anything else.
Calvin hasn't really appealed to me yet but after all they've only been out 1 year.
Wuzun is a wonderful actor, he makes it seem very real and he has already been male lead in 2 drama's !

I think I did mentioned before, I don't hate or dislike them; I'm neutral towards them
Considering the fact that they had just debut not long ago and their acting was their first piority [which concidently it applies to the other typical Taiwanese Boyband out there], I thought Angie Chai should have let them have more singing and dancing lessons before allowing them to release their 1st album and in the meanwhile, they should have focus on improving their acting skills
Secondly, I think in order to survive long in the showbiz, having great looks and not the talents ain't enough. Frankly Speaking, both their acting and their singing ain't that good. What makes matter worse is their songs are just typical one and some of the genres ain't even suitable for them. Just dancing some normal with no creative dance step wouldn't make them last long. Boybands are so typical nowadays, and I personally thought that FLH is just a group made to let the agency earn money and to let them have their own fanbase. Well, I thought debutting as a boyband is just a step-stone for them to further mount on their individual careers.
About singing live, I gave credits to them for singing live and not lip-syncing but their live is really terrible. Yes, I know they are new, they debut not long ago, but if you want to prove that you're a group who can sing, then please improve. If you're required to multi-task in acting and singing, you should at least show talents in either one of the areas ^^

I don't know, but I don't like the idea of a group of young lads having the looks but only some talents

I don't like them , but not hate . I just wonder why Taiwanese boybands always use their dramas to get popularity . Their dramas is cute & pretty good , but if they HAVE TO be singers , at least they can sing well . But I don't think Fahrenheit has this factor ( Arron is quite good but he needs to improve more). They have looks but their talents aren't obvious in their fields . Their 1st album is quite good, but I don't think it's outstanding & has something special to compare with others , so the reason why their album is the best-seller is ... thanks to their dramas.

Fahrenheit doesn't sing live well . Some people said that anyway they were rookies , but I saw many singers & bands can sing live well in their debuts . Maybe time will answer whether Fahrenheit will improve or not . I personally don't like the way that the Taiwanese companies creats their boybands .





I don't agree with u . Like u said , everyone can sing , but boybands are different . Because boybands include many members , surely they learned how to sing together and count musical notes . So I don't know why they made mistakes in their live performances ... hope they will improve .

I do like them, but I do agree that they aren't the most talented.
I think they did rely on their looks a little, or they wouldn't have been so popular in just a year.
I don't think they are good singers.
They are alright in acting though.
Even though Arron is musically talented, I still think he can't sing.
You can tell in live that he runs out of air quickly.
Well actually I don't want to blame it all on him, but they all do.
They are a group, so they should sing as a group.
If only 1 person is good at singing, then there's no use.
I like some of their songs and all.
Hopefully they'll improve in a matter of time.

By singing live you show your professionalism and respect to the music industry and fans who have paid to watch you perform...and being able to sing live is actually a basic requirement for a singer. But it's seems like Fahrenheit can't even fulfill this basic requirement. They have lip-synch a few times already, and at a concert too....at the "Wild day out" concert held in october-november last year, where fans in HK paid 200-400 HK dollars to hear them sing or should I say listen to their cd. Being newcomers isn't an excuse. Tank and Cao Ge are also pretty new...how come they don't lip-sync? And HK artistes such as Justin, Janice, Kay, Khalil etc. they were newcomers as well back in 2005...they didn't lip-synch either.
Their voices don't even synchronize...so I'm not surprised that they can't harmonize like their shi jies S.H.E. The artistes under H.I.M are all quite talented...so I don't really understand why they signed them.

why HIM signed them? easy answer quick cash/bucks lol...S.H.E as much as i dont want to admit will not last forever lol tho i hope they do. therefore HIM need someone else to continue make money for them hahaha...boyband that has teenage girls go crazy over? perfect solution thus FAHRENHEIT was formed hahahahaha my story that is...i think HIM better off invest more on TANK...love TANK

^ exactly, S.H.E's contract will end in 2009 and i doubt they will renew it plus girlband doesnt last forever and even if SHE is still popular right now, we'll never know what can happen til their contract end. Maybe smth wil happen that make them lose their popularity and sell less albums so introducing a new gd-looking group now was a good strategy. If SHE become less popular they stil can put all their effort/money into Fahrenheit.

And with Fahrenheit, H.I.M has more solution too, if their singing career is short they still can promote them through idol drama, Jiro and Wu Zun are already loved by teenage girls.

Transition : Don't be too surprised if Fahrenheit cant harmonize and sing well tgt, maybe they will improve but they werent created to be a good singing group, since the begining i knew its gonna be another teen idol group like 183Club or KOne, its not for nothing they were introduce through idol drama first. I dont think H.I.M is gonna put effort in training them like they did with S.H.E cause they dont need to, w/o good live singing they still can be popular (look at them now). I always think there was a huge difference btw girlband and boyband, boyband can be popular easily while girlband has to at least have some ability (singing, dancing or being cute/sexy). I believe if H.I.M didnt trained S.H.E like they did to make them sing so well tgt, harmonize with each other then S.H.E will just be another failing idol group.

^ ehhh to me its so scary to know that S.H.E contract in ending 2009. its like we fans all know we only have roughly 3 years...='( to support them. i also doubt it will be renewed.

actually ANY band dont last forever. there's gotta be an end somehow lol girlgroup like S.H.E, im sure all them will eventually want to marry etc etc...so they can't stay too long in the ET industry too long either.

haha IF HIM didnt trained S.H.E like they did i dont think they will be another "failing" idol group...theyll just be sorta like twins lol no offense...ehem ehem...they'll rely on their cuteness and ppl will have less respect for them.

anyway back to FHR...they have catchy and quite OK song...thats why they're likeable too...

^ well H.I.M is not like EEG, EEG are really good at promoting their artists and they're a powerful company thats why Twins managed to survive all these years despite their singing and they rely on movies too.

While if you look in Taiwan, there is not much popular girlband, i believe SHE last til now cause they stil can sing but if they couldnt sing, i doubt they wil last 5 years, maybe 1-2 years then disappeared and other new group wil pop out.

haha we're a bit off-topic.lol

did you notice how Fahrenheit nice songs are those one did by Tank ? i think thats funny.

yeah, I do know that there are many teenage girls out there who go crazy over those boybands...and that S.H.E's contract will expire soon, but I actually thought H.I.M is different compared to the other companies...that they are actually looking for talented people, because all the artistes under their management are quite good as I've mentioned; such as Tank, Kaira, S.H.E etc.
If H.I.M really had to sign a new group they could have had at least let those guys train for a year or something before releasing their debut album just like their shi jies did. Believe it or not Charlene and Gillian also had some training before debuting. Looks isn't everything that counts anymore...people are starting to support the musically talented ones and also beginning to realize that those "idols" who are only depending on their looks aren't worth to support. If you guys visit a HK forum called U-wants you will see alot of supporters for those really talented ones while the "idols" are the most disliked there.
Fahrenheit are popular right now because they are still new and fresh for the audience, but if they don't show any improvements over the years I believe they will eventually disappear, just as many of the other Taiwanese boybands.

^ time will tell if they improve or not and it's up to H.I.M also, whether they want Fahrenheit to be singing first then acting or the other way around.

that hk forum, is it in english or chinese ? sound like a interesting forum

Even if S.H.E were not to renew their contract, I don't believe they will completely disappear or forgotten from the entertainment industry. They, afterall, have been in the industry for many years, sharing many unforgettable memories with their fans, and they are not exactly an idol group. As the host of Da Ge Da said years ago when S.H.E first appeared in the industry, S.H.E is both an idol and "shi li" group. They have the looks and popularity of an idol group, but they also have the talent that you don't usually find in other idol groups. Idol groups rely on looks and cuteness/sexyness to gain popularity. I believe that S.H.E won't completely fade out from the entertainment scene, perhaps they will take the "shi li" path, even if it means lesser fans but the upside is their fans are more longlasting. Or perhaps they can one of those groups who will not disband but instead decide to pursue their careers in other fields of the entertainment industry such as hosting, dramas, movies,etc. and maybe release an album and hold a concert every once in a while. Think of it as part-time singers, that way they won't completely lose their fans and audience after many years and are still able to remain in the spotlight. They promised us they will still sing for us even when they are eighty. But as of right now, guess H.I.M will decide for them what path they want their singers to take but it's true that as you grow older, less and less fans will start paying attention to you. BTW, this idea of coming out with an concert or album every once in a while, I actually got it from HK's Xiao Fung Jie, she holds concerts every once in a while and comes out with a new album to just let her fans reminisce the old times when she was younger. ^^

Well I'm natural towards FRH but I like everyone else said they don't really have much to show right now... maybe improvements can be seen in the future but who knows. I do agree that many of their supporters might just be in for the looks since they are all really like really good looking guys (especially Jiro, everyone else looks a little girly). I remembered watching some of their MV and that I could say dancing is something they really need to work on bad!! Hopefully they won't be like other boyband and disappear in like three years.

I like them.

BUT... just because I like them doesn't mean I don't think they need tons of improvement. I think it's fair to say that they're only this popular because of their looks... the first time I posted in the Fahrenheit forum, I mentioned that I liked them for their songs (which are ridiculously catchy), and everyone seemed surprised... they said Fahrenheit had caught their eyes first.

Speaking of looks, I think the guys of Fahrenheit all look much younger than they really are. And they're also all varying degrees of "niang." Also, maybe because they look so young themselves and are basically like candy, I've seen quite a bit of evidence that the average age of their fans is lower than those for other artists.

For me, I think the guys of Fahrenheit are really nice and funny. But they're far from the strongest dancers, strongest singers (especially live!), or strongest actors. In terms of acting, I'd say Jiro is the best, but only because he's improved a lot in the last year. I thought his performance as AhJin was kind of forced, but he's REALLY been hilarious/great as XY in Hana-Kimi. But he's been in the business for a while, actually... the others are newcomers, although I do have confidence in their ability to grow.

At this stage, though, they are very much an idol group. They'll have to develop if they want to last. What's kind of both fortunate AND unfortunate for them is that they're all actually OLDER than already-established stars like Ethan Ruan, Mike He, Joe Cheng... they do look younger, but don't forget that the Taiwanese industry becomes crueler to stars as they age (although since they're guys... AND so young-looking, it may be okay).

I have to say though... probably another reason you don't see more anti-Fahrenheit people running around, though, is that the guys are so GENUINE and NICE. Even if you thought they were over-rated, I think it'd be hard to say that they were arrogant or that they let the fame go to their head (even as a misinterpretation of their actions). That definitely goes a long way.

they are all tall n muscular n they are trying TOO hard to act cute which makes them disgusting.

TALL + MUSCULAR does not equate to CUTENESS

but

TALL + MUSCULAR + CUTE = VOMIT

understand?

well I don't really hate them. Hell I don't know them personally so I can't hate them so I have no reason to hate them do I?
just don't like them much
they are talentless imo
omg heard them live
I changed the channel
I was literally cringing
yes they are very good looking... but
they SERIOUSLY can't dance or sing
their acting's mediocre at best
eh when will taiwan come up with a boyband that actually can sing??

^ i second that...when will taiwan come up with a boyband that can actually sing? 100 yrs later...i predict LOL

but the thing is..."band/popgroup" are formed consisting of good looking people to distract the audience from their rather horrible singing...HARHARHAR of corse there are some exception and decent group but others are just...hmmm

Fahrenheit will hopefully improve... they should improve SOON! or else...

i am neutral. but im totally over taiwanese bands.
they rn't all that great looking. and not good singers. and honestly KO one wozn't exacly the best drama taiwan has produced.
i do hav a soft spot for aaron tho coz he sometimes reminds me of mike he lol

i prefer watching them act, because their singing isn't all that great right now.
and i'm really annoyed at how so many people go like "yan ya lun is sssooooo cute!"
yeah he looks good, but can he do something else to earn him all the attention?

who is yan ya lun ? if its Jiro then i totally agree with you !!
the first time i see him i find him cute but the more i see him, i think he tries way too much to get attention and sometimes on picture, his pose looks gay.

yan ya lun is aaron yan, the youngest one in the group. uh, the one on my icon basically.. well, aaron is the youngest one, and i also believe he is cute, and he has well, from what i think, the best voice and talent in singing. as for jiro, he can act, really well too.

Haha! Arron's on my icon too!!! and yes, he's only 20.
he's also the best dancer!!! (jiro's good to)
here's a video of him dancing: http://tudou.com/programs/view/4nVckwkvV7Q/
to all those that FRH can't dance, I actually think it's the dance choreographers fault because they can actually dance really well by themselves but the dances that they do are not choreographed well. Arron can do THE SPLITS (like in the video) CAN YOU??? and Jiro can do all that coffee-grinder, cherry-flipper, and seal-loops breakdancing stuff.

Yeah, they can dance but there are still some aspects of it that they can improve after all they are still a new group, and there are bound to be some stuff they need to strengthen and improve. They can't be perfect right? Also, I find WuZun's dancing kind of weak. Their singing and harmonizing as an group is rather bad and offkey most of the time. I suggest that they sound stick to acting or dancing if that helps them long term in the industry. The only person I think who has the most potential in singing is Arron. He seems to be the most talented out of all of them. The others, I guess are all pretty boys, fans just like them for their looks, especially fans of WuZun. Yes, it is true that Jiro can act, but it still not up to par with the other actors and actresses out there. His acting is too exaggerated and dramatic. I feel like the only kind of role he can play in the future are those funny-comedic roles where the character is rather dramatic because he's also like that in a sense.

yeh i lyk dem....i was on a holiday to china n turned on the tv...den i saw farenheit(i didnt know hu dey were b4) singing the song dat featured hebe-from s.h.e...i rekon dey have some preety good songs with good beats n stuff

After I take a look on both Fahrenheit's forum, 183 Club's forum and this critics hangout thread, I have an idea.

Rather than fighting with each other (between fans), why don't we write (in respective threads and in bullet points if possible so it's easy to summarize) what improvements that need to be made on both boys band groups?

Then give a deadline such as weekly or monthly and one person or group organize this and send it to the boys band group?
Can be either in their guestbook blog or whatever but make sure they'll read it.

I believe this will be something good for them if they wanna listen/read or read our comments. Since criticism can also build up people. I mean it's good to let them know what improvement they need to make.


What do you guys think?

Yeah, that's good. Then we can really get to know the bands and compare if there's bullets (:
FRH rocks my world.
Gotta admit their singing isn't the world's best, but... still.
They can ACT.
They're HOT.
GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME >.<"
Every person has bad flaws, it's not enough to criticize and point them out, I think you have to support and hope they improve, no?
SO GO FRH!!

pwehh... *breathes a sigh of relief*... since i absolutely love and adore fahrenheit... i'm glad that there's not that much of bad words on them

That's because they are still relatively new in the industry and it's only fair to give them a slight chance to improve on the strength of their vocals and acting skills. I feel like most fans just like them on a superficial basis. I know most of my friends who started liking them after exclaiming how hot and shuai they are. I mean, do fans even judge past a band's appearance and neglect any talent they have in an idol group? They can't forever be young and base their popularity on their appearances. They are all in their middle twenties la, with the exception of Arron. It's kind of late for them to form a band on such a late age as it proves to be a disadvantage because newer bands can come out after them that are younger and hotter. In just a few years, they might not be that popular any more as they get older and people might want fresh faces to promote. So, I strongly advise them to brush up on their singing and acting skills. They will need that to remain in the industry after their moment of fame is over. Seriously, how long can one stay in the industry based on looks only? The only reason S.H.E was able to remain for so long is because they not only have looks, but also the talent. I don't know of any band that can harmonize like they can and they are also so versatile in many aspects. Jiro's acting is really mediocre, as of now, he has only been playing roles limited to funny and dramatic characters. I am not saying his acting is bad, he was really hilarious in ISWAK and Hana-Kimi, but he should accept more roles and maybe try to tone down his exaggerated scenes even though he's like that in real life. I could never imagine him playing those really serious, depressed kind of guy. But that's how actors gotta be, rite? Try out many characters and experiences. Also, OMG, their singing. I just don't get it, they sound so perfect and in sync in their album but when it comes to singing live, their voices don't mix at all! They were singing Ai Dao on a show once and I wondered if a screeching grandma was singing instead of them. They sang way off tune and off key, some too high and ended up screeching and some too low. I am not going to say dancing because I have never seen them dance but yea, there's nothing in here that they can't learn and improve on. Hopefully fast and soon! I don't them to be like another F4 related band, just looks with not talent.

Each of them actually has their own different talents.
Just that being in a pop idol group, they have to oblige to many things which dont allow them to fully show themselves in such a short period of time.
For example, we all know aaron plays the piano.
But he doesnt always have a chance to show this does he.
Give them some more time.

FRH is a boyband...i doubt they'll play instrument tho we all know some of them can.

they got e looks, hmm, except calvin. singing still ok.

but normally boybands dun last dat long. 1, 2 yrs dan not popular le. but they still young, can go solo next time.

^ err i dont think they're that young except for aaron...the rest are in mid twenties arent they?

i really like fahreheit..
i think they're more.. "better looking" when you consider boy bands in taiwan..
heheh
and they all hav flaws, everyone does
and we'll see more of them later, because they're still very new

support fahrenheit foreverrr (esp Chun and Jiro <3)
XD

I don't like them . Their songs/their performances /their voices don't impress me . Looks --> ok . Their idol dramas ---> ok . So the reason why they're famous is not thanks to their talent although maybe they have . And

Playing instrument ??? I thought that all singers have to know how to play at least piano ???

at the moment i really love their songs on cd. true enough their live singing isn't exactly at their best yet and have room for improvment and thats cool cos they are a new band. I believe they can sing good together because their singing and songs on their first album were really nice. if they can sing live as well as they do in the cd then that would be perfect. it'll be interesting watching them develop more in singing and their acting career because they really do have a very special feel and potential talent as a band.

I don't think Fahrenheit has much haters right now. I quote myself, it's now the "Fahrenheit wave" and almost everybody likes them. But of course, there will be some who will not like them, such as calling them talentless, show offs, copiers.

I myself didn't find Fahrenheit quite appealing when they first came out. I had this stereotypical thought, thinking that all boybands, although quite handsome, are just talentless bunch of folks. I never hated Fahrenheit, definitely not. I just didn't expect much from them and therefore nver really care about them. (How can I hate them? I was a huge BOY'Z fan back then... and they were quite "talentless" when they first came out, haha.)

I really don't know how I started to like them. I guess I can say that it's their looks. Although I knew Fahrenheit for a long time, I never knew how they looked like except Wu Zun because he was in Tokyo Juliet. (And everybody was all over TJ... except me, haha) I guess after I saw them, I thought they were pretty good-looking and decided to check them out. Although it was their looks that got me interested in them, I didn't start to like them until I heard their music. They have pretty darn good music for a debuting boy band.

In my opinion, out of the four, Arron seems to be the one who is the most musically-talented. I'd rather Jiro and Wu Zun stick to acting, since they are better at it, but if H.I.M made them into a boy band they must have their good reasons. Comparing from way back in early 2006 when they first formed to now, Fahrenheit improved A LOT. They stopped lip syncing, (I'm very proud of that xD... pretty early for a boy band to stop lip syncing that fast) and they also seem to be more natural and easy going in front of the audience.

But these four boys... they're too NICE, JUST TOO NICE. Although I do not know them personally, I've read many fan reports, and many of these reports talked about how nice and friendly Fahrenheit is. It's pretty hard to diss about Fahrenheit after you have met them.

Honestly im not a fan of them i dont know why they are famous now,well i only like one member of them & its aaron(hes a great dancer & thats what i like in him) the rest i dont like them.

LOVEEEEEEEE THEM ! . i know they dont sound good live . but theyre newbies . theyll improve. i know they will . my fav is arron cause he is soo cute and he is a good dancer and great singer. he is probably the only one could pass as an actual 'singer' . i love jiro as an actor, but not as a singer. i have their album. it is the "fahrenheit wave" right now. i know theyll have haters for sure. but i love them

WHoo, I love Fahrenheittt. They are hot and I love watching them on shows because they're so energetic and funny to watch. They have different personalities and are from varying backgrounds so its really cool and interesting how they came together. I must say though, their acting and singing is just medocre but it is obvious that they are working really hard to improve all that so I really admire that! Hopefully, Fahrenheit keeps up the hard work. =]

I personally think Fahrenheit improved a lot in their live singing techniques. They improved quite fast for a debuting boy band.

You can compare these performances and will notice the huge improvement. They sound completely different:

DECEMBER 31 2006 Performance:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdN87U4BvOo
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk70dgBvMTQ

Random JANUARY 2007 Performances:
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LxmZUD8BCs
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VFFSug5I_w
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0-Wze6zckE

Thanks for those vids but they don't impress me . I see their improvement ( just for the song Summer Snow , but the song My Feeling Just For U , their live singing is still bad ), but their voices can't change . Arron's voice is okay , but Jiro's voice annoys me when he sings live, he shouldn't have sung. About the rest , I think their voices are average. So, the only one can continue to sing is Arron . Jiro , ... ( don't remember their name ) , plz don't sing anymore ! Sorry FRH's fans

I can't say I hate them, but from what I've seen of of them, they haven't left a very good impression on me. They can't sing AT ALL. I saw a few performances of them live and they were horrific. They're okay-looking, but maybe I'll think differently after I watch (if I ever get around to it) Hana Kimi. I did enjoy watching Jiro in ISWAK though, I thought he had definite acting potential. I was really surprised when I read about him being in Fahrenheit.

i agree with you, Jiro should stop singing. just a few days ago i watched the bonus DVD from TANK's album where Fahrenheit was a guest and it seemed like Jiro is making everyone else's out of tune lol but he still "show off" you know the-everyone-thinks-im-so-hot move or look that he does (i like Jiro but soon he'll annoy me lol) ...and plus they had like back up vocals from their CD played on, almost seemed as if they're just going to lip-synch. well what they did was sing along with the track played on lol is that still call lip synching? lol

i quite like their CD and hope they can sing like in the CD someday haha

I love Fahrenheit, but it's true that they can't do live performances. But I mean, they just debuted so give them some time. I'm sure someday they will sing like CD quality.

I wouldn't say I hate them...but I really think that they can't sing...the first time i heard them sing was when I saw their MV for Zhi Dui Ni You Gan Jue with Hebe...and I thought that the only one who could sing was Hebe...and after that during the TVB awards thing...and they really sang off-key...they really shouldn't sing live...

But hey, they are a new band...and who's to say that they won't improve?? I'll be waiting for that day...hope that they will improve their singing and not be based on their 'just ok' looks...