As all of you should know, Sun De Rong is famous for all over Taiwan, since he has probably bashed most of the artists out there.... since he likes to do that, why not get back at him by doing the same thing to him?

Although I am a big Jungiery Fan, I have to say, i don't like the way Sun De Rong takes care of these artists. I mean, what kind of manager goes around and criticize other bands? He has compared many of his own singers with others and it has put a bad image on them. He's compared 5566 with F4 and also 183 Club with Fahrenheit. Members from 5566 and 183 Club had to step out to explain to them that it's not what they think, and it was all a "misunderstanding" and try to clean up the mess that their manager has made.

I really do wish that he can change the way he manages these artists, and also...
STOP BASHING OTHER SINGERS!!

OMG totally agree!! because he opened his big mouth the artist under him gain more haters instead of fans.... he really need to watch what he's saying in public...

yes. i dont understand how someone like him can be a manager. not only is he strict with his own artists, pretending that hes the good guy, whats worse is that he talks bad about artists that arent even under his company.

lets talk about his recent bashings of groups, Fahrenheit. i know for a fact that this isnt his first time putting other artists down in the process of making his artists look good. in trying to make 183Club and 5566 look good, he talked about Fahrenheit as if they were trash. ofcourse, i may seem bias because i like Fahrenheit, but hes really unreasonable.

1) saying Fahrenheit went on a China promotion tour because they had no work in Taiwan, how overboard is this? just because they spend 1 month outside of Taiwan promoting their first debut album doesnt mean that they cant get functions in Taiwan. this is bad enough, then he tries to use this as a stepping stone to make 183Club sound popular by adding that 183Club only spend a few days in China due to their busy schedule as they has many other places to visit asides from China

2) critizing your own artists is fine because in the end, they are under you, but critizing other artists is very rude. not only did he do that, he also picked out the lamest reason to hate on Fahrenheit, saying that their name "Fei Lun Hai" should only be a group with 3 members, because there are 3 characters. how stupid is that? then he has to say that because they have 4 members, 1 of their members is useless.

3) he says that Fahrenheit is copying 183Club. im sorry, but i do not see any copying going on here. if anything, Fahrenheit are "copying" F4 more then 183Club. yeah, both groups are idols, but that doesnt mean they are copying. if he says that Fahrenheit are copying them, then 183Club copied F4.

4) commenting that Fahrenheit isnt in their league when compared to performing? this is true to an extent as of now because Fahrenheits live performances do need improvement, as the members either sing off key, cannot grasp the key or sing the wrong lyrics. but they are just newcomers, and 183Club have been out for a long while already, its natural that they do better and perform better live. though i somewhat agree to this statement, i do not agree to the attitude and wording he used.
as for performance in dramas, thats a different story. WuZun, who was new to everything, even the language, had made huge progress in his acting. his first drama "Tokyo Juliet" wasnt bad to begin with as a newbie, and his "Hana-Kimi" just shows how good he is onscreen.

5) commenting that JeffZhang can only get popular in China? come on, this guy's voice is amazing, better then all 183Club and 5566 plus 7Flowers put together alright?

6) always commenting on how other artists work outside of Taiwan because thats how they need to do to make living? outside of Taiwan, more places, more opportunities.

7) his comments also affect the image of his artists, as many viewers will think that what he says goes for all of his artists.

he needs to shut up, and 183Club and whoever is under him need to find themselves a new manager because they also become hated.

OMG!! i am so glad this thread is here!!!!

SDR... where to start bashing... head to toe i think lolz!

1- he says lots of bad things about other artists who are legends....... he says bad things about F4 (totally wrong they are great) then FRH (jiro is soooo cute !) and he also says a lot of bad stuff about other artists to...

2- he is very sexist! do people notice that most people in jungiery are male??? he is very unfair to 7flowers(whether you like them or not isnt the question in this so please read what i am writing as a nutral...??no offence!) Qiao en who i think is really really good at acting because she was great as tian yu in WZBQW gets treated very unfairly.... SDR was NOT i repeat NOT going to let her star in WZBQW at first but it was the Production company who insisted ... i bet the ratings shut him up and he can shove his thought up his you know what! then after that she rarely gets to star in dramas when WZBQW was sucha hit.... MD and SW have had dramas since... also there was once a love scandal involving a member of 7flowers and toro but that girl had to leave whereas toro got to stay????? apparently the reason was because she was too young!!

3- he seems to control everything that goes on....... i think there is something like if you put on wieght you get fined adn you cant have a picture taken by the paparazzi if you are on a date you get fined (well i do agree to some extent tha their private lives should be kept private) but what if they didnt know they were being followed?????

4- he seems to have no interaction with other companies which is not very beneficial to artists under him and i feel so sorry for them because i think they have talent but people are not liking them because they are J-stars adn they are under SDR!!!

5- it was all because of what SZ said that started the 183vs FRH in the forums here!! argh!!

i think he needs to watch what he is saying and think about his artists for once because what he says affects his artists more than him and the people he is directing his words to...... they can just let it pass because they are so popular and they know they are better than what he makes of them

this guy is such a dumb@55 for talking bad about all the artists.. especially fahrenheit since it was the first place on the forums where i heard him talk about artists copying so and so.. he is so wrong for even saying that when fahrenheit looks nothing like 183club.. what kind of manager gives his group a bad name.. just for calling fahrenheit copycats, or whatever he has said about other artisits is already giving 183club a bad name.. i mean seriously, saying these things will get into other peoples head and when they find out about it, theyd probably think something of 183club.. when i first heard the news of him bashing fahrenheit, i thought it was 183club since he was the manager.. hearing it made me think that 183club was thinking the same as SDR.. aiyah.. just what the heck man.. is he scared that hed lose his popularity or something? gosh.. he should really stop talking bad about other groups or one day hed regret it since fahrenheit is slowly gaining more popularity..

i also agree with m1ss that SDR should either shut up or who ever hes managing needs to find a new manager.. theyre all getting a bad name all cuz of his bashing..

he should shut up about other artists since uh... no offense to jungiery fans, but the jungiery artists are seriously lacking in the talent department and are probably some of the worst singers/actors i've ever seen

i don't know much about this sun de rong but he sure sounds like a jerk. reading you guys comments really make my blood boils.
by the way, is he the manager of qiao en? cause if he is, i really will bash him. there were something about that the manager of qiao en didn't want her to act in 'prince turns into frog' but the director insists and that's how Qiao En got to act in the movie.
if he is that directer, i will kill him. and making bad comments about artists that aren't even in your control is really stupid. i won't be surprised if someone was sent to assasinate him.

I'm a big fan of fahrenheit and 183 club...(and jungiery) but if he doesn't shut his pie hole...he's gonna get a whole lot bashings compared to now!!!
First, of all i agree with Cherry27, he is a sexist...just like she said, SDR never gave Qiao En any oppurtunities after Frog Prince...instead he gave it all to Ming Dao and Shao Wei...TOTALLY UNFAIR, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT MING DAO AND SHAO WEI THAT MADE FROG PRINCE A LOVABLE DRAMA...IT WAS QIAO EN AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WAS IN IT THAT MADE IT A LOVABLE DRAMA!!! oh and do you guys remember the scandal between Toro and ex member of 7 Flowers Zai Zai? I told my mom about this scandal and i told her that Zai Zai got kicked out and Toro didn't get kicked out...did you know what she said....she said how come its all the girls that get the punishment? why not the guys?
Comparing about fahrenheit and 183 club isn't gonna help him or the artists that are under him.....let's just say that they'll lose fans.....i won't be surprised when theres a campaign outside the jungiery building.....
and really fahrenheit and 183 club is totally diffrent!! styles! and diff music!!!
man, i wish all the artists under him was lucky as K-One....moving to a diff company would be so much better for them...They would def. get NEW fans!!! I mean thats why most people hate Jungiery because of their manager's attitudes...
I also feel that SDR is being so immature..talking s*** on them...and having the artists under him clear all the mess up for him so he doesn't look that bad...
HE SHOULD DEF. GO TO H3LL...if he doesn't stop his criticizing.....
okay...phew....im done...finally let all my anger vent out!!!!!

What the hell is this idiot talking about???? Does he want to get jump by Fahrenheit fans? I swear, cuz he will get it. WTF, he is saying that Fahrenheit is jobless? If he doesn't shut the hell up he'll be the one who's jobless. I hope F4 and Fahrenheit fans TP his house. He doesn't even know sh*t about the meaning of Fahrenheit. If he's going to criticize someone, at least know what the f*ck he's talking about. If he said he and his precious group is so f*cking busy then don't waste time bashing other singers. No one asked or give a damn about what he thinks, so shut the F*** up. What a f*cking Moron! Go the Hell jackass!!!

I don't like all of the rules and regulations set by Jungiery company... I was ever wondering why would SDR set all these rules? Like the artists are not allowed to date each other... why not? Love cant be controlled... and since he set this rule, they may as well stop letting 7 flowers acting with anyone of the J-stars incase they fall in love with their co-stars...

And i dont he's good in taking care of his artists too...i'm sure some of the J-stars are secretly disliking him too...here are some points:
I am a bit disappointed with Toro's case... last time, he chose to separate from Energy, and it was really 'heart-breaking' for me because he was my favourite member... then after he joined Typhoon, it seems like his popularity has gone down... I think he had better achievements in Energy...

there's something I don't understand about Typhoon... why would Darren join the group? JR once said in a show about Darren joining Typhoon, that he's not very happy about it... and i agree... he said, since Darren used to be a part of K ONe, why suddenly he joins another group and helps that group to achieve success? And it gives people the feeling that Darren is getting fed-up with K ONe, thats why he wants to join another group... I know he's not, but some people think that, and again, it leads to reports and rumours about K ONe disbanding... and now that K ONe's not a part of J-stars, while Typhoon IS, so is Darren under J-stars?? This is quite weird... Sorry if i offended anyone, which i dont think i did, but i do love K ONe... =D peace...

The same goes to Sam Wang... he's joining two groups... can he actually handle two groups' schedules and work at the same time? Isnt it a bit unfair for the others because Sam is gaining more fame than the others... i dont understand why would the company arrange this thing.. it's the firts time i've ever heard of people joining two groups at the same time...it's a bit 'destructive' for the celeb esp if the groups are very popular and have lots of jobs...

Someone pointed this out about 5566... there used to be 5 members, and thats how the name came from... but where is Rio Peng all these times? He's always disappearing from promos/concerts etc... honestly, is his injury THAT serious until he isnt able to come out for such a long time??

183 club... the name has something wrong too... i didnt even bother to count but i could see that their average heights dont equal to 183... in fact it's around 181cm only.. so why would they wanna use 183? is there something wrong with 181 or 182?

I think there's something wrong with the company here... they should do some adjustments... all these just seem too odd and too much... SDR, as the manager should do something... Does he think that all these will help him managing his artists? Maybe he's trying to be different, but it's TOO different and it's unfair to the others...

ok, no offesne to j-stars lovers, i dont mean that the artists are not good, but if the company is to be a bit more efficient, i'm sure all of the j-stars would have been better..because they have talents too =Dand it seems like SDR is 'destroying' them...

about the bashing of Fahrenheit... this brings fire to my HEAD! I'm a Fahrenheit fan and why didnt he think of the fans' feelings before saying anything? And yet, he's a MANAGER! As in GOOD in managing, not only his work, but also HIMSELF! He failed this point...

And i heard that recently he's chosen to voice for some cartoon shows??? OMG... he's already the manager and yet he still wants more than that to be more famous than his artists?

Sometimes, i hope that the artists under him would cancel their contracts with him and join another company... they would have got the chance to do more things freely and better...

Yeah i agree this man alway criticizes artist that he doesn't even know that much like fahrenheit at first my hate for him is juts a little coz he only criticizes F4 but when i heard that he criticizes fahrenheit too well i just want to bash him off in jungiery this man has no respect with the artistes in Taiwan .

Point one: Darren joined Typhoon pretty much for the same reasons Shaowei is part of 183club... to use their respective positions in those groups to gain popularity for these new groups. Well, that's Shaowei's role more so than Darren since Typhoon is now pretty much disbanded.

Rio Peng injured his back during a concert rehearsal with 5566 and had to undergo extensive surgery and therapy in America. Even now, he can no longer dance and be a performer... rather he has formed his own management company called Wingman (which KOne is a part of and Evonne Hsu)... but 5566 still consider him part of their group and therefore haven't changed the name. Plus, I heard that Jungiery footed the bill for his surgeries and recovery because it was on their watch that he got hurt.

The original name of 183club was "183 Yu Le Bu" which literally translates into "183 Entertainment Group," but I suppose club fitted better. And it's just a marketing ploy; after all 183cm is a rather desirable height... and their average is closer to 180 or 181, but I suppose 183 just sounds better.

No, I'm not defending Jungiery and/or Sun Zhong. Rather I am just trying to explain some things that may confuse certain people. Anyways.. all I know is that Sun Zhong modeled Jungiery after a famous Japanese entertainment company (Johnny's Entertainment); and Johnny's is KNOWN for its harsh treatment towards its idols... and for their incredible success. But I do think Jungiery is slowly starting to deteriorate; it was better in the old old days... like pretty much late 2005 into 2006. Or maybe it's because Jungiery is so 'hong' (hot) right now that we see all these faults.

Source: http://udn.com/NEWS/ENTERTAINMENT/ENT1/3816204.shtml
Translations by Scarlett @ http://asianfanatics.net/forum

183 Club Fever Over? Sun De Rong: Fahrenheit Are Inflatable Dolls

Lately, new Taiwanese boy band FAHRENHEIT has been heating up all over Asia. In comparison, another Taiwanese boy band 183 CLUB were also once that popular. However, lately 183 Club has been rather quiet. 183 Club's manager Sun De Rong, without a change in opinion, strongly insisted that 183 Club is currently busy preparing for their big debut in the Mainland Chinese market. He also shot at Fahrenheit, "Three of them are like inflatable dolls, and there's one of them that is not even suppose to be there."

Last year when 183 Club hit the Hong Kong market it had created a hassle. However within two months Hong Kong fans are becoming crazy again - not because of 183 Club - but for Fahrenheit. In comparison 183 Club is now quite quiet in both Taiwan and Hong Kong. In these three days 183 Club is attending to a TV broadcasting function in Chengdu and Jungiery's manager Sun De Rong explained, "Fahrenheit only released one album and there's still a long way to go. We will not lose to them."

Sun De Rong pointed that Fahrenheit are just "three inflatable dolls with one uneccessary member". The "uneccessary member" he is pointing at is Fahrenheit member CHEN YI RU (Calvin Chen). He also said, "Inflatable dolls just have the looks and they are not useful. When they inflate it, it will look pretty, but when they have no more air it will look smashed. It's better to compare them with Taiwan's other inflatable dolls, Lolli Pop. They should have done some more training before they came out. That way they can survive in the industry longer."

As for Sun De Rong's criticism, Fahrenhehit's music label, HIM, explained, "You can't judge something just because someone has given their opinion. It takes witnesses and everyone's support to know the truth. Fahrenheit does not wish to compare with anyone; they just hope for themselves to try better."

Sun De Rong denied that he has given up in Taiwan and Hong Kong-based idol bands. "Taiwan's entertainment industry is already shrinking. Hong Kong only has around 6 million people, what's use for the competition?" However Sun De Rong was indeed telling the truth that he is planning for 5566 and 183 Club to hit the Mainland Chinese market. However at this point the dramas that 183 Club are in are all focusing more on MING DAO and WANG SHAO WEI. The other three members were "put aside." Sun De Rong admitted, "Chances will be for those who are ready. We shall consider this more after ZHU FAN GANG (Jacky Zhu) stops going to late night pubs and when HUANG YU RONG (Ehlo Huang) has more confidence in himself."
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okay, not only does he bash other artists, he doesnt even stand up for his own artists!

I don't think "famous" is the correct word to describe him, it should be "in-famous" for his harsh criticisms and acid tongue; he criticizes any artists who competes with his own, but he doesn't understand that he is doing more harm than good, he sets a very bad example to his stars. His most recent comment about Fahrenheit has painted an even worse image of himself and his company.

hey
i thought this thread is for the manager not the artistes?
stop bashing them

but i do agree about the manager should disapear
he doesn't have the rite attitude to be in this business!!!
he's gettin on people's nerve in a non good way....
rude....
obnoxious....
annoying....

Oops. Sorry for the mistake. I actually misread the post. But there's no need to call me 'stupid idiot'. How rude.

But if not for the infamous manager, there won't be *cough* bands like these out here making taiwan music sound terrible. Not trying to be sarcastic. But that's also the reason why I quit listening to TW music. @@

I have nothing against 5566, think they are ok. I guess they are the best and most talented out of all the bands he manages.
I just don't get how he manages not to get beaten up and stabbed for his rude and obnoxious comments. His list of enemies is probably miles long.....
Taiwan do have some talented singer and singer-compers. A few recommended ones are TANK, S.H.E, and David Tao.
LOLS, sorry, I can't stop myself!!! '

5566 is not bad, so is 183club!!!
and the others who is unfortunately have an idiot as a manager.....
he should mind his mouth...
trully!!!

Let's try and not bash users. Play nice

Sun De Rong 'seems' like a really bad fellow. His criticisms are lame and illegitimate for the most part. He is really doing some harm to his own artists by continuing his obnoxious behavior. Be more professional please. It just makes him look really bad in others' eyes because of his ridiculous comments.

I think this guy treats other artiste really badly. He speaks badly of others just to get his own band to soar. Well, i dont really think that is working though. It only makes people hate him more.

My friend told me that he is trying to push 183 and sort of neglect 5566. He ought to remember that because of 56, he is so rich right now.

I am often flattened by what he says... but there is nothing much I can do unless I am given a chance to spit at him... I wonder if he criticised other artists besides Fahrenheit and F4, because he seems to have a major hatred towards these two groups... someday, someone should stand out and criticise the groups under his management and let him feel what is it like being criticised that badly... just to be fair...

Off the top of my head...

I know that recently he's insulted Jeff Chang XingZhe... and in F4, he's targeted Jerry by himself (he's left the other guys alone).

And he has an on-going feud with Show Luo ZhiXiang, but that's actually personal and somewhat understandable on both sides. (He is Show's ex-manager.) It's the ONLY feud of Sun Zhong's that makes any sense.

I'm sure there are plenty of other artists who have not escaped his rather indiscriminate wrath.

OMG... looks like there are still a lot of poor souls were being insulted that I didn't know... I guess if the J-stars were not under his company he would have given a lot of 'comments' on them too... somehow all his 'comments' are super provocative... I wonder what makes that mordacious attitude...

like alot of the above posters , the jungiery artist would be more popular if they are under a different manager . maybe he is still hurting from what happen before , therefore he always shoot his mouth off in order to back up his artists.
hopefully SDR retire soon and let someone else takeover jungiery

I like Jungiery stars. I think they do have the potential to be internationally known with their talent. However, with SDR around, it's not a big surprise that 5566 and 183 Club are fads.

that is the lamest reason i ever heard of. 3 members cause there's 3 characters? then what about his 7 flowers? arent there only 4 members now?

and in my opinion, all these taiwanese boybands are just trying to copy f4 and trying to achieve as much fame as they did.

this guy seriously needs to get a life! i think he criticizes other artists just because he feels insecure about his own. so then he has to put other ppl down just to make it seems like his own artists are all that...there are only a couple of jstars with real talent anyways...actually the only ones i can think of is 5566 and mingdao.

this is the first hate thread that i like!! seriously.

Gosh! This SDR guy should just shut up!!! i would be so glad if i could walk to him and shut his stitch his mouth!!!

And if he's trying to copy Jhonny's Entertainment. then he really did a lame try. Coz JE is much better, less harsh and more human! (i know becoz i'm a JE fanz especially Arashi!!!)

And is he a gay? i mean, he always stood up for the boys.

Oh yeah, just to add on, i think he is making the industry "darker" than it already is. All artistes will like to maintain a good relationship with one another but he seems to be trying to break things up. Really, what is he trying to do? Be selfish. That's it.

Haha it's hard to believe that I actually wrote such a long essay above...

Anyway, I heard that he's throwing Jacky Zhu out?


Well, I do notice that he stands up for guys more than the girls... that's why Jungiery has so many boybands and just one girl group? I feel that the girls are not given as much attention as they guys do...


Haha yes, I agree. And to make things worse, some fans of J-stars and non J-stars fans actually flame each other... I mean, what's the point of doing so?

wow~ i didnt noe that there is this thread about him here...

honestly.. i think that he does not suit to be a manager at all.. though i am quite a fan of Jungiery. but i always feel that though 5566 and 183 are popular, he only concentrate on 2 of the artiste in each band. its quite pathetic. and w/o him realizing, he is criticzing his own artiste while he is criticizing others.

i feel that 7 Flowers.. all the 7 of them.. both ex and existing, will be a very popular if they were not under him. oh gosh.. they all have the talent. if they went to more singing and acting classes, they could have been much more better than they are today.

i actually feel quite sad that jstar got a lot of haters because of SDR remarks and not from their own. i feel it is quite unfair. haiz~ and i wonder why he sometimes disallow his artiste to work in other companay that is not sanlih. its always jstars and tangerine stars that work together and i feel that the tangering manager is using jstars fame to boost their stars and is SZ this stupid to not realise it...???

how i wish all his artiste would one day turn their head away from him...
how i wish all his artiste are as lucky as K One who are beginning to shine..

Its ironic that instead of him managing his own artists, they need to manage him. Hilarious.
Think they would be better off at least without a manager but even better with an actual manager.

And.. in the entertainment industry there will ALWAYS be someone who would do better and excel so there is no point in being jealous of them and bash them up for that. He is getting his just dessert.

seems like he is famous for the wrong reason.
doesn't he know that all these comments will only hurt his own artists?
he must've forgotten that he is the image of his company.
bash other artists, ppl will bash yours back.
poor Jstars will have a busy time defending their boss.......

wonder if he has a chip on his shoulder. :glare:

because of his comments make J-Stars was hatred by many fans....hate him hate him...especially his current comments making YY 3+1 going down the hill

AHH.. lilazn I LOVE you for starting this! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

I personally hate this guy. He ruins his artists' images and seriously is making all his recent artists' dramas go waaay downhill.

I can't believe he wants to sign a contract with more artists! I feel pity for them.

This thread is really funny! He tends to be very extreme and rash in his comments. And I totally agree that there's no need to bring everyone else down just to boost the popularity of your artistes. I really pity the ppl at jstars under him. Let's hope he doesn't jeopardize their careers. And thank goodness, Kone is not under him anymore and they're starting to shine so much more.

What? What comments did he make that got YY 3+1 going down the hill?


That is pretty true. I don't know is it only me, but after K One left Jungiery, their album did so much better than their older ones and the sales increased.

uh huh. And they're starting to get more exposure too. More hosting opportunities etc. So yeah, I guess leaving jstars really did them alot of good.

And to think I use to love J-Stars and 183. After whatever news I had heard on this poor soul, I myself had started to dislike the J-Stars themselves. See what he did to them?

And frankly, after the jibe at Fahrenheit, he got me completely pissed at him. How can he call them inflatable dolls? And the best part is, not even standing up for his OWN artistes? And he's supposed tobe their manager. Pfft.

And then he calls Yi Ru the 'uncessary member'. I swear I'll tear him limb from limb if I see him. He seriously has never heard what Fahrenheit says about themselves now has he? if he has, he'll see that Fahrenheit has more of a bond between themselves rather then any of his groups, and its the bond between members of a band that keeps them together, not their popularity, nor the number of their fans, or even whatever else that is brought up.

>.<

When I saw the title of the thread, I laughed so hard. I mean finally! I've been bashing him in others' thread too, but didn't want to say too much since it's not right to do that in artists' threads. Now I can get it out.



After reading nanshi's explanation, I guess that's the reason and also I agree that 183 Club does have a better ring to it. Besides, Yi Ba San - reminds me of their song One Umbrella and how they tried to fix the lyrics in the end and say "I can only give you 183" instead of "I can only give you one umbrella". I thought that was quite creative. (lol) And their average just went WAYYY down after Jacky left since he's the tallest.



I guess there goes his originality. I meant the way how he's saying others are copying and he's trying to follow by the success of others and taking it as his own ideas ? *tsk..tsk...tsk..* There's a limit to strict. Too much of it and everything will turn out the wrong way, like right now. If he's so strict and wants the artists to behave, why doesn't he behave himself first? He doesn't practice what he preaches and only making his bands look worst. It's like saying "You guys behave and don't make our company look bad, but I'll just go out and do that myself." (lol) And yes, I totally agree with you J-Star is slowly going down thanks to him.



I know what you mean. I can't believe it. It's like he bashes everyone, except himself. I, like many other people, don't know why he's even in the entertainment industry in the first place. He doesn't know how to come up with a good plan to promote his bands, but just bashes other bands to get attention. Yea, he got attention alright, MAJOR NEGATIVE ATTENTION.

And he said YR lacks confidence, is bashing YR more going to help? What the world?

I totally agree with most of you and don't know why they didn't get rid of him already. He's making the artists look bad as well as the company. It's not like he's the only one the world around as a manager. Unless he knows their secrets too much and they didn't dare to fire him. (And probably I don't know the system over there so that's why. *shrugs*)

Wow !!! what a topic !!! I dislike SDR as well !!! He's so bad !! I dont like him bashing other artists it make him look crazy and his artists petty !
He even bashes his own artists and it's idiotic !
He makes his artists (MD and QE ) earn less than they can cause he makes them work in San Li ( which is somehow related to Jungiery )
He has that stupid No love rule !
He is sexist !
He's making me dislike some of the Jstars.... He's bad at management and promoting !

Hmm... I guess I was a little too picky back then. I just find some of the groups' names odd, except maybe for Typhoon and Tai Ji. Never mind...

I think Jungiery is no longer thriving now? I don't know, but it all started after K One and Jacky left. I think these six played a big part in holding the company together. K One was living under others' shadow but they obviously contributed a lot to Jungiery.

I got to say, I don't really have much against the J-stars, it's just the management that makes me less interested in following them. I mean, I have this feeling that J-stars may not last long when they're under Sun Zhong's management. Tony Sun and Zax Wang are great singers; Qiao En and Xiao Qiao are awesome actresses, so I think it's kinda... wasteful that they are under Jungiery. Honestly, if they went some where else, maybe they could get better opportunities.

Hey, how did Sun Zhong react to Zax having a baby? I think he's always against things like this?

Now that you mention, I was wondering a bit back too. Wonder if anyone knows about this since I didn't catch up to this bit of news until it already happen and Zax already settled down.

And forgot to add earlier, but I agree with someone here (forgot who since I lost my quote marks and had to re-do it again) talked about the whole incident with Toro and Zai Zai, I thought that was unfair too. I mean if he punishes people for breaking rules, why one and not both? That's just wrong. They're both as responsible. If his excuse is because of Toro's success and/or popularity at that time, that's just beyond words. Just because you're popular you get away with stuffs?

And I agree also with you, Aspire, that it's more about the management that irks people than the J-Stars artists.

woww

ive been hearing so much about this SDR person in MD, QE related threads. i would never guess he IS this kind of HARSH-NON-SOCIALABLE-BAD-MANAGEMENT manger. (i hope this describes him well)

how could he go all around and start bad-mouthing other artists.. AND HIS artists. the things that came out of his mouth has been causing trouble for his artists. (from what ive read, 183 and 5566 have to clear some statements SDR have made about the comparison of them and FRH). bleehh. tsk tsk. that is not a good way to make himself looks good.

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honestly, what kind of freaking human being would restrict their artists having a romantic relationship if they are under the same management.

with his management tactics, his artists are not going where far.

Yeah totally agree !!! He's such a bad manager that his artists have to go to the press and apologise or clear things up because of his mistakes while it 's normally the opposite, when young and unexperienced artist make little mistakes and the manager has to cover for it ......

^^ Yes, yes... well-said, biebiebie. Agree 100%. It's really laughable that his own artists have to do "damage control" for him.

BTW, a while ago... someone had a "half-joking" question about whether or not Sun DeRong is gay? Actually, I HAVE read several times that he is. I cannot say that he is with absolute certainty (because I am not sure that he's admitted to it), but it WOULD explain why he's so harsh on his female artists... and totally adores the guys in his company.


I DO know that Sun Zhong was really, really angry at Ji Qin (the mother of Zax's baby)... thought that she "did it on purpose." But... when she "volunteered" to stay inside her own home EVERY DAY of three months (I think it was three?) to avoid giving the reporters any opportunity to film her, his attitude toward her softened...
And he eventually let RenFu announce it himself on WQYL (although not before the newspapers had already raised the question).

yes it was 3 months.........pity Ji Qin.
to spend 3 months at house arrest......
i really think that Sun Zhong is making it hard for all of his artists.
he keeps making slip ups like those....
hopefully his artist will get away from him when their contract is up.


so he is gay?

I used to away J-stars because of Sun Zhong.....but changed my mind after seeing their works

Sun de rong is annoying, but sometimes i wonder if it's the taiwanese way of settling stuff. I mean look, their parliament even start fist fights and head bashing! they probably look upon this sh**talking by Sun de Rong as part and parcel of life.

but I agree that his actions reflect really badly on his stars. I used to really hate 5566, because he was always talking crap about f4, but now I love SW. Most of the newer groups under J appear alright.

^^ Yeah, I mean... I honestly can't say I blame people who stay away from the J-Stars because of Sun DeRong's runaway mouth. The thing is, some of his artists ARE actually really talented (in different ways... )... but he ruins it all by turning people off to them. Even though his artists do "damage control" for him, it's often not enough... even if newspapers DO publish the artist's comment, Sun DeRong's insult is always the headline... and a LOT of people just browse headlines... don't bother to read the details. Other times, they do damage control on WQYL, which is essentially a J-Star show... meaning that the insulted party's fans probably will miss out on it... and just assume that the manager "speaks" for his artists...