This in the drive of life?
WOW!
Cant wait till this happens. Lol
Go CHARM!!
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Sorry. Dont like Myolie very much.
But I have a while to wait, I only finished watching episode 23 yesterday.

AhSi: Haha, thanks. We'll just leave those people to discover that on their own and hopefully they'll soon learn to respect others.

I was just at Pong's blog and i'm a little sad with his latest entry; seems like he is "recovering" fairly quickly. Okay, okay, i know i should be happy that Pong is recovering but the idea that he is moving on just makes me wanna cry. It especially pisses me off that people have left comments on his blog telling him to "cherish Bing Yee and forget about Sau Fung because Bing Yee won't hurt him and that Sau Fung is the one who's wrong". Yes, Bing Yee is nice (almost too nice i must say) and Sau Fung has hurt Pong a lot, but there are reasons behind her actions and love is not something as simple as...say, math. 1+1 does not always equal 2 in life. We must distinguish between love and gratitude because those two are often merged in the gray areas and one wrong decision can lead to hurting many many people. And sometimes, who's right or who's wrong doesn't seem so important anymore, because common' everyone has done something wrong in this picture: Pong for accepting Bing Yee, Bing Yee for dating Pong even though she fully knows he still loves Sau Fung, and of course, Sau Fung for letting revenge blind her...etc. etc.. That's life to ya, i guess. LOL.
I've translated some comments i found on Pong's blog that i just wholeheartedly agree with:

Sau Fung actually never forgot about you; you're still her only. It's just that she has a very extreme personality, oblivious to the fact that she has made a huge mistake. Ever since leaving you, she has been the same as you, living in hell, no one caring about her, because as you know, she has no friends other than you and her mother. I want to ask you, when you decided to accept Bing Yee, are you not going to forgive Sau Fung? In the past when i read your blog, it's always filled with the warm love you have to Sau Fung, always so touching and heartwarming. Ever since the big heartbreak, i feel that you no longer will give 100% in any relationship. It's because both have been hurt, but being able to be with the one you love the most is the wonderful thing, because, he/she is the only one wishing you too will trust your own instincts.
秀風其實從沒有忘記過你,你仍然係她唯一,只係她的性格偏激,不知道自己原來犯咁大的錯,自從她離開了你以後,她也跟你一様,活在地獄裏,沒有人關心佢, 因你知佢沒有朋友,除了你跟她媽媽,我好想問問你,在你決定跟秉怡一起的時候,你係唔係不會原諒秀風?!以前看著你的blog,裏面滿載你對秀風的愛,真係好感動,經過傷痛之後,感覺你已經對任何人都不會付出100%的感情,因為大家都受過傷,但係能同最愛的人一起才是最永恒的事,因她/他是唯一,希望你都相信自己的感覺。

Zhen Pong, you've chosen to be with Bing Yee and this, unknowingly, will eventually lead to hurting all three of you. You should be the one who knows Sau Fung the best, why didn't you stand firm and continue supporting her? The most pitiful one is not only you. The most pitiful is Sau Fung. Because she is alone, having to face all the pain by herself. You and Bing Yee still have friends and family to support you guys. How about Sau Fung? Bing Yee is a nice girl. But because you want to let go of Sau Fung, at the same time not wanting to hurt her [Bing Yee] again and chose her. Actually, what you're doing will eventually hurt Bing Yee [even more]. What you've done is really disappointing. *sigh*
振邦你選擇跟秉怡，那就無形中連累到你們三個人一起受傷。
其實你應該是最了解秀風的。為什么你不能堅持下去呢？
最可憐的不只你一個。最可憐的還有秀風。因為她一個人要獨自面對所有的痛苦與孤獨。
你跟秉怡還有家人與朋友的支持。那秀風怎么辦呢？
秉怡是個好女人。但是你只是為了放下秀風，同時又不想傷害到她而選擇了她。其實這樣做，也是會害到秉怡的。你不忠于自己的感情，實在是太令人失望 唉～

Ahhhhh it's killing mee. Just watched a little TINY clip of Pong w/Bing Yee. *shudders*
Sorry but they're just better off as friends. [no offence to Myolie fans though] In truth, Raymond has chemistry with all his co-stars (same w/Charmaine), male and female, but IMO, his chemistry with Charmaine is just unbeatable and clearly stands out among others.
BTW, anyone know which episode they'll get back together?

Here's Pong's latest entry:

Sept, 7th: Letting Go
Learning to let go will allow me to move on. Even though it's easy to say, yet much harder to do, i've at the very least took the first step, once again learning to live. I've returned to Wah Geet, as well as starting to date Bing Yee. Inside, all my emotions have calmed down; i am calm. Even though i don't have much excitement nor anticipation, i only wish to be able to step back onto the road of life and live peacefully and securely. Now my father, second Uncle, youngest Uncle along with my brother in law Wing Bill, all are working at the car plant. To say in truth, i don't have to work as hard as i have in the past. And being with Bing Yee is very comfortable. Even though there isn't much chemistry nor any fireworks, but we are happy and compatible. As things are now, i would think long lasting and steady, no more impulsiveness and passion, no more hurting, maybe this is something worth cherishing more. As for things of the past as well as any hope, i've learned to bury it well deep inside me, never to be seen again.
九月七日：放下
懂得放下，就能自在。雖然知易行難，但我還是踏出了第一步，重新開始我的生活。我重返華喆，也開始了跟秉怡約會。內心一直以來的騷動似乎已然平息。我很平靜。雖然我並沒有太大的喜悅或期待。我只希望從此可以安穩地、踏實地生活。現在父親、二叔、孻叔，連同姐夫永標，都在車廠。說實在我不需再像從前一樣的拚命。而我跟秉怡在一起，感覺很舒服。雖然沒有轟轟烈烈的化學作用，但是我們總算是相處愉快而融洽。事到如今，我會想像，細水長流，無太大的熱情無大太的傷害，或許才是更值得我去守護的愛情。當然前提是，我那股潛藏在內的渴望，將不復再現。
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Poor Pong, you can tell he is trying to grasp back onto life just because he doesn't want his family and friends to worry about him anymore. Yet inside, he is still very much hurting. Love is something that can hit you once and leave you crippled for life; just one hit that will forever leave an impact within you. And sometimes, no matter how hard you try to hide that dent, it'll still be there because sometimes, somethings just can't be mended.

LOL i was just at Sau Fung's blog and found ANOTHER comment that i just HAVE to share with you guys!!

Really admire how in the end you and Zhen Pong will be together. In reality, Zhen Pong maybe has already moved on because in the past you've brought him indescribable pain like never before. And you, as insistent as you may seem, say that you don't care whether Zhen Pong is alive or dead, but you still miss him very much. Before i thought that since Zhen Pong has a fresh start, your problems will no longer be his problems because the world changes and people change as well. And especially love; weak yet strong. Every woman wishes that no matter what we do wrong, the one we love will still accept us, promising that no matter what happens, they will still be there for you. But when the promise is gone, even though fully knowing that you've ruined it with your own hands, yet, you still secretly wish for that promise to be in effect. Actually in reality, there really isn't anyone who will, without any obligations, be your life-long guardian angel, so when Zhen Pong accepted Sau Fung, it proves how much he really loves her. And Sau Fung won't choose another, because the happiest thing is to be with the one you love and that's enough.
好湵慕你最後同掁邦係埋一齊,現實中,掁邦可能已經另覓新對像,因為你之前帶他的痛係前所未有,而你雖然口口聲聲不理掁邦的死活,但係你仍然好掛念他,本來我以為掁邦已經有新生活,你的事再不是他的事,畢竟世界會變,人也會變,而人的感情既脆弱又堅強,每個女人心中都想無論我做錯任何事,還是希望自己愛的人原諒自己,接受自己,而諾言就係不論風風雨雨都會照顧你。但當諾言不能兌現的時候,雖然明知道自己之前一手摧毀,但係還是希望那個諾言永遠不變,原來真係沒有願意無條件做你一世的守護天使,所以掁邦再接受秀風,已證明他真係好愛秀風,秀風也不會選另一個,所以好幸福,能夠跟最愛的人一起。
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LOL yeah i know, i'm REALLY crazy about this couple. Usually in every series/show/drama you'll be rooting for at least one specific couple/pairing and i, like everyone else, have been there done that. Yet, i've never really been this crazy about an on screen couple as Zhen Pong+Sau Fung. But Raymond and Charmaine have just truly touched hearts with their superb acting and incredible chemistry, truly bringing the characters Wah Zhen Pong and Wing Sau Fung and their amazing love relationship alive before our eyes. Go Charray + PongFung!!

bittersweet05
wow thanks for the loonnng translation xD i think they will get back together at episode 44 which is next week i totally agree no one can beat CharRay.


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anyways this is pic pretty old..

is Ray looking at Charm?

i really enjoy reading the character blogs and what ppl have to say about Pong and Fung... most people have an indepth understanding of their relationship and the situation they both r in.. and know the reason why Fung chose revenge over Pong..

i truly think that Charmaine and Raymond r seriously great on screen couple.. not many couples can pull off what they have going on in DOL.. i was thinking if they get someone else to play Pong and Fung with the same storyline will it have the same effect that Charmaine and Raymond brings out.. and honestly.. asides from the fact i like them.. i cant think of anyone else that can portray such a great job like them.. in some series its like.. "Awww they got together..." but theres no strong feeling attached... but i really dont know what it is... when Charmaine and Raymond r on screen together its they bring out this sort of feeling.. especially the bit when Pong told Fung to stab him in the alleyway and the second time they got back together.. just have a funny feeling in my heart (hahah.. i sound so cheesy...) proves that they have great chemistry.. cos not many couples can provide this feeling to the audience.... funny enough i only got this feeling when watching DOL not LWOLAP.. though they were also great but their love in DOL is just another level up!! as i said before i only got this feeling from two other couples before so Charray all the way!!!

enough about my babbling.. just felt like i needed to express the Charrayness within... another thing.. just like to thank people who read my fanfic "Tower" hopefully u guys liked it... i have another idea for a fanfic in mind.. Charray of course but im going to wait after i get uni work out of the way to start writing it.. thats if i can be bothered..lol..!!

Mack: the reason why i watched up to ep 42 is cos i rent from my local TVB store which is usually faster than the HK TV... so yeh...

can't wait till ep 44 and 45 of DOL.. Charray back together and Pong proposes again.. woohoo!!

Hey everyone, I am back from my holidays in HK/Taiwan. Glad to see this thread so active with new members and oldies back with us (waving at Range and Aznangel) I have just glanced through the posts quickly, and noticed that someone asksed why Ray's expression is so funny on the TVB magazine cover. Not sure if anyone has answered it yet. The cover story is about the love triangle between Charm, Ray and Myolie. Thus the pose they took just expressed the scenario. That is Myolie likes Ray and Ray is with Myolie, yet Ray's heart is with Charm, so he is not very happy to be with Myolie and just can't help looking at Charm.

anyways, I was watching the TVB version of DOL, the more I watched it, the more I don't like Zhen Pong's mother. I just don't understand why she could change from a understanding and reasonable woman into someone so critical, suspicious, foolish and biased. I just watched Charray's part on CCTV version before, but now that I watched the full episodes, I just don't get it. In one of the episodes (I think it is 35 or 36), Gigi Wong was comforting Jessica who is confused as to who (Joe or Michael) to choose and worried about upseting her father by not listening to him. So Gigi said to Jessica that she doesn't need to listen to her or Damien. What she should do is just to think about what her heart really wants. She even told Daimen that it is so outdated to ask the kids to marry who or not to marry who. It is the children choosing their lifelong partner, not them choosing their son/daughter-in-law. Very well said, right? But then she was like 180 degrees changed when Pong wants to marry Sau Fung. Gigi became totally unreasonable and ridiculous. Made us just can't help to hate the character. What are the script writers doing?

hello guys I haven't time to post here but I just wanted to drop buy and show some support to this lovely couple. as well want to welcome myhelen back

here is a new charray MV that I found and the MV is using the sub theme (rays song) so it's really good
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/7IzFd_W6Ji4/

Jupi
I notice it as well as I was reading the posts I didn't see yours however thanx for the new Charray
mv

myhelen
I feel that the case of Ching Yu and Chan Pong is totally different
Its because Wing Piu has never hurt Ching Yu that deep before when Ching Yu was in the middle whether to choose Wing Piu or William. Ching Yu was unable to choose at that time is due to reasons like Wing Piu and Man Hon had a lot of grudges in the past and Man Hon cannot accept him, Wing Piu working for his uncle and etc. Wing Piu has never hurt Ching Yu directly before.
However in Chan Pong's case, Sau Fung has hurt him before directly by not marrying him, having an abortion (that is what Gigi thought that happen is it? sorry I have didn't watch the CCTV version) thats why she object their marriage but if Gigi already know that Sau Fung didn't have an abortion and that was an accident then what your saying is right. The script writers are writing wrong lines for the cast Its just an opinion no hard feelings...

bittersweet05
Thanks a lot for you to translate what the fans wrote in their blogs. What they are saying are so right Chan Pong shouldn't just accept Bing Yee because he doesn't want to hurt her anymore

I can't wait for Charray to be back together. Char and Ray should have at least have a little feelings towards each other since they film together for seven like Jupi said and both of them act as couples. Hmmmm...

fly_ultimate: Joe Ma doesn't have a clean record either. He has betrayed Daimen before and sided with his uncle to harm Daimen's company not only once. Thus, he is not a "good" or "righteous" person either. So if Gigi thinks it is totally okay for her daugher to be with this person, then why does she disapprove of Sau Fung so much later. I think it is reasonable to be unhappy about Pong getting back with Sau Fung, but to be so biased against her is another story. If you have seen the later episodes, there are just too many examples. Maybe that's partly due to Sau Fung being the daughter of her husband's old flame whom they have cheated on her? Oh well, I guess this is just the result of the script writers trying to create a climax with conflicts among the characters. A lot of people find it quite odd for Gigi;s character to change so drastically.

Anyways, I jsut can't wait to see Charray getting back together too! It will be so nice to hear their actual voice during the heart wrenching scenes and the touching scenes.

Latest Pong blog entry...gosh it makes me hate his guts at this moment for how cruel he is to Sau Fung! Wow, he sure changed fast; went from crying all the time and missing Sau Fung to thinking she's the evilest thing in the world and hating her guts. Temperamental much? LOL. T_T Yet i also must pity the poor guy: he's lying through his teeth: he clearly still loves Sau Fung very much, yet trying to trick himself to painfully hate her. *sighh*

Sept, 10th: Fired Up
She returned, and is together with Ngai Tin Sing. I really don't know what this woman is up to. Other than extreme hate and disgust, i have no other feelings toward her. I don't want to speak nor hear anything about her. I only care if she deliberately hurts anyone i love, including my family, friends, and partner. If this evil woman strikes again, i will do whatever i can to fight back. I will defend my family and Wah Geet and Bing Yee with all i have.

Her return has one benefit to me: stimulating my fight for life. I must live life to the fullest, must work harder at work and on life. I must burn through my life in spirit and re-create the "sparkle", brighter than before. As old fashion as this may seem, in my opinion, the better and brighter i live is the best punishment to her.
九月十日：燃起
她回來了，而且跟危天行一同出現在我面前。我實在不想深究這個女人到底想玩甚麼把戲。除了極度的厭惡與憎恨之外，我對她並無任何感覺。我不會想再講或再聽與她有關的所有東西。我只關注一點，就是她是否企圖傷害我愛的人，包括家人、朋友或伴侶。如果這個惡毒的女人再次出手，我一定會不留情面的還擊她，我會不惜一切去捍衛華家與華喆，還有秉怡。

她再次出現對我的唯一益處，就是激發起我所有的人生鬥志。我一定要更積極、更起勁地投入工作與生活。我要熱烈地燃燒自己的生命，像從前一樣發出奪目的光芒，甚至比從前更光亮。如此這般老套不過，我過得最好就是對她最大的懲罰。
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God, i almost expected him to add "muahahahaha" to the end. Zhen Pong really had a 180 change and i'm not liking it. He should've known better (that with her extremist personality she did all the stuff she did), after all he IS her husband (or almost her husband). He should've tried to understand what she is going through and at least talk to her. After all, they've went through so much already and he must know that she is not some big evil mastermind to start with and won't deliberately hurt others without reasons. It's such a pity because all three of them are in pain very much. Aiyahhhh.

hey everyone! long time no see. many things that i have missed out. BUt i guess i will be missing out more as my promotional exams arrives. most prob would be busy till october i guess.

All in all, i am totally loving the character blogs. It really shows every details that the characters are feeling. thanks bittersweet, all reading the english version of the entry breaks my heart, and reading the chinese version shatters it to million pieces. Double impact! URgh, but eventually he will realise that caufung is indeed the one that he truely loves. In his subconcious mind he still loves sau fung. ALl three of them are in pain, but nobody would beat the pain of charmaine, she has to endure the pain of losing a child for god's sake and that pong would use it back against her was just heartbreaking, i practically brawled over it. All this trouble just came from his mum.

Oh well, like what myhelen said, i cant wait for them to be together again, just a few more episodes to go. I agree, listening to their canto voices seems much more real and close to heart rather than the chinese version. The way the both of them acted out each scenes with their emotions pouring into their voices are just ahhhhh. Can stop watching the scenes when they were together. they just seem to perfect for each other. The scene when they kissed in the park, it made me melt. ahh.. no doubt this is one of the best couple on screen and off screen, they seem so naturally with each other. Some on screen couples may look awkward together in certain scenes as if they cant seem to put in the true emotion on the acting. However charray seems to pull it off perfectly with no flaws. They relationship in DOL seems soo real that it is scary!

oh yes, and welcome to all the newbie! i hope u have a fun time in this thread. Charray's thread is really going out and about! myhelen, arent u lucky! i really love hongkong but currently i will be staying put in singapore until end of the year. oh well, but at least we can still enjoy charray news and clips!

cheers!

just watched 41 and WHAT myolie slaps charmaine and charmaine slaps myolie xD
waiting for eps 44

hiis every1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!srry for not posting so long, but i was busy with skool and other stuff...anyways, ive been wondering, do u guys noe the link to eps 41 and so on; or the link to the blog entries of pong and fung...i juss watched eps 40 and no offense to myolie fans, but i seriously dont see any chemistry between ray and myolie

myolie juss is a replacement, and i dont think that pong shuldve evr started dating myolie, cuz that way, all 3 of em gets hurt

but anyways, if u have the link to the blog entries, or the link to eps 41, plz remember to post it up!! thx!!!!

hey everyone!!!
i know, i havent been on for agesssssss, school work just drives me nuts. i just got back in & i already have like a bunch of work to do. but anywayssssss

ive been trying to catch up on my "charray" things, but i just finished up ep. 41 & now, there is not more charray =[ it makes me sad.i just hope it will be soon till zheng pong realizes that he really loves sau fong. cause i dont think i can take it anymore, haha.

is 42 already out right now?? cause i cant seem to find it

episode 42 =D
http://www.qwikshare.com/download/bznh5rqrgE9Q

ahhh thats when raymond says myo is better then charm in thousands of way!! because he said charm aborted the baby o.O

babysports: TOTALLY & absolutely agree with you! i'm too totally obsessed with this couple! For me, usually i will root for a specific couple in series (haha Ross&Rachel in FRIENDS!) but i've NEVER truly LOVED a couple before. What you said is so true; their relationship is so real it IS scary! All their scenes are acted out so flawlessly and their emotions, especially in their eyes, is just AMAZING and i often have to remind myself that it's only series. Charray IS the series IMO. They really brought alive DOL in a way that it makes the audience feel the authenticity and realness of the entire thing, like we actually KNOW the characters. We start to feel for them; the anger, the pity, the happiness...they're THAT good. Go Ray&Charm!! I think that in a way, Ray and Charm both had to use SOME real emotions (to an extent) because it's just TOO real to be fabricated...either that or they're CRAZY INCREDIBLE actors! AGHRHRH! I'm so crazy about this couple!! Every time i listen to the subtheme, the Charray scenes would play itself over and over again in my mind and make me wanna cry! CHARRAY FOREVERR!!! [next week they'll be back together!!!! WHOO HOO!! ]

hehe i found a little something O.O

AHHHH Zhen Pong's blog...so sad!

Sept 11: Defeat
As things are now, i will admit defeat. If you hurt me or my family to wish that it causes me pain, i can gladly justify that you've already won. You are the winner and i'm the loser. I satisfied your biggest wish, are you happy now? From the day you left me, my heart has never stopped hurting. So why do all this to prove the point? Do you need me to rip out my heart to show you how badly it's hurting, how burnt it is, then you'll let go? I really don't mind doing whatever that will make you happy. I just want to beg you that you want revenge, then please just seek it out on me. Please have mercy on Wah Ga [the Wah Family] and Wah Geet [the car plant]. Please destroy me all you want, so that i don't actually realize...that i still love you.

九月十一日：潰散
事到如今，我只能承認我是鬥不過妳。如果妳傷害我或我的家人，是希望我感到心痛，我願意宣判妳己經取得了勝利。妳是勝利的，我是潰敗的，我是妳的手下敗將。我滿足了妳天性使然的最大慾望，這樣妳滿意了嗎？從妳離開的那天，我內心的痛楚就從沒有停止，妳何苦還要設法去證明這點？是不是要我把我的心挖出來給妳過目，讓妳望見它的腐爛程度，它的焦黑程度，妳才會捨得放手？我實在並不介意這樣做如果妳喜歡。我只想求求妳，妳要報復妳要發洩，妳只管摧毀我。請妳放過華家，放過華喆。請妳盡情的摧毀我以免我會意識到，其實我仍然是這樣愛妳。
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And there you have it, ladies and gents: a classic torture love relationship. Both Pong and Fung are just too darn good at hiding their emotions, childishly thinking that if they buried their feelings, they will eventually go away. Little do they know the perseverance of love conquers all. Man, my heart was honestly hurting when i read that, proving just how REAL their relationship is. Love these blogs! Way to go TVB! [now only if they give Ray and Charm Best Actor/Actress respectively i will seriously worship TVB! LOL!]

Oh I dont like the way the news report said that Charmaine's acting is weak and said that her face went black when Jessica is still TVB No 1 sister. If really face black, why dont they took the photo down? There is no evidence at all! I dont know why they say the ratings is dragged down by Charmaine. Amongst all female actress inside, her character has a lot of up and down and it appears her acting can do that. Not to say Jessica's acting is not good, just that I dont like her character inside that just will help her husband regardless what her husband do. And those people nvr think about why Charmaine will be so extreme? Her mother is her only relative in this world and their relationship are more close that any mother and child relationship. We should understand why Charmaine wants to revenge. Nowadays when we watch tvb series we have to see their acting and not to see they are acting as good or villian person. Those people just dont know how to judge acting. Just will say acting weak because they are villian! Poor Charmaine that being criticized like that. Anyway, hope that all of us still support Charmaine!

Awwww......Zhen Pong's 9/11 blog entry has totally melted my heart. That is soooo touching. 'How "decayed" how "burnt" my heart is from the pain of loosing you' - a little grotesque, but that is so raw and direct. BTW, the entry is on 911 - What a co-incidence. Sept 11, 6 years ago has also left many people in tears.

Jessie1314 - no need to be so upset lah. I have learned to just ignore those negative comments. The reporters in HK just try to make things up and add "salt and vinegar" to any "news". I won't be bothered by those too much. You can rest assured that our love for Charm and Charray will not be affected. As we are all smart and clear enough to know how is good acting, and distinguish what is true and what is false.

Yea. You are right. These peoples are sort of like to follow what the reporters said. They will just agree to the report and give all sorts of ridiculous comment. Anyway, we have eyes to see how Charmaine's acting improved in all these years. Just that I worry these type of news will affect her nomination as best actress for this year. To be truth, until now, I havent found someone that fit to take the awards this year except for Charmaine. Myolie Wu's WOL sequel will only be release on 31 Dec so she might not have the chance to win it. I really hope that Charray can win both best actor and actress for this year. Although chance might be slim for Charmaine cuz she won it last year and lots of negative report about her acting in DOL. Poor Charmaine.

Btw, I also watching Drive Of Life now. I'm waiting eagerly for Episode 44 where Charray will get back together.

I know, Charm was heartbroken. She kept thinking of his words, God.. He totally lied, in his heart Charm's the one who's better by a thousand times. I can't believe he could say that, well okay. Charm had it coming with the baby, but his words... God, it must have hurt a lot. I really feel sorry for both of them. I can not wait till I get to see episode 44, I can't stand the whole Rayolie.. Not that I really mind Myolie as an actress, she's quite good, but yeah.. You know.



Aw.. His heart is broken, and he's still in love with her. I wish they could admit their true feelings..

just finished watching eps 43-45... and i love it... seeing Charmaine and Raymond get back together just made my day.. it was sooo sweet.. although i've seen the CCTV version but its really not the same.. having their real voices is just grand!!! i also love the fact they use their subtheme during those touching and emotional bits.... now im waiting for them to get married... another grand moment... Go Charray!! their chemistry is just indescribable!! a on screen couple to have such great compatibility is very hard and they pulled it right off!!! Go Charray!!

:yay: they are going to get back together soon finally after waiting from the episode when Charm leaves Ray I love the part where Charm is going to bang Ray with her BMW but at last she didn't and turning her BMW away instead I'm currently waiting for the part where Ray tells her to kill him because he doesn't want to see her continue on like this anymore. Man thats emotional

the newest entry is really like a battle won but a war lost type of thing. Although he has move on to Myolie now nut in the end he still has to admit that he still loves her from the that she left him. Awwww so touching

myhelen
Yes, I understand what you say but all Joe has done is hurting Jessica by doing bad stuff to Damien which means that he just hurt her indirectly which is different on what Charm did. She hurt Ray directly by saying that she made an abortion all that being said if you said that Gigi's character has a lot of drastic changes and stuff so you're right but come'on what are we here for Charray right

Again I can't wait for Charray to be back together again. Charray all the way!!!

Yup, we are here for Charray and that's why I think Gigi's character is really annoying by being so double standand and biased towards Sau Fung. She is making our Charray suffer. I originally don't think she is that bad, but the more I watch, the more I think she is giving too much hard time to Charray. Just cannot hold myself from showing my anger towards her. Anyway, I am not comparing how much Joe or Charm is hurting their other half. All I am saying is Gigi has double standard and her character switches so much. I thought she has thoroughly understood that it is not up to the parents to decide their kid's marriage. But at the end, Daimen has turned into the one who tries to teach her the same principle. Another example of bad plot development/script. Oh well, what Gigi is or will do is not that important lah as more oppression just showed us how strong is the love between Pong and Fung.

九月十二日：對的人

我累了。跟秀風的糾纏，已折騰得我支離破碎。過去種種深愛與傷害，我已無力追究，亦不想深究。曾掉落到深邃的幽谷，經歷那些孤寂頹靡，我不想走回頭路。這刻，我只想把我的人生拼湊回來，而我知道，能給予我完整的人，只有秉怡。

秉怡總是如絢爛而溫暖的陽光，默默守在我的身旁，不離不棄。我分不清我對秉怡的是愛還是感動，但跟她一起，彷彿就能洗滌過往的痛苦，彷彿就能看見耀眼的未來。我需要秉怡，我想愛護她一輩子。我打從心裡這樣想著。

秉怡，嫁給我吧﹗

translate anyone?XD

awww Pong is going to get married with Bing Yee

Hi everyone. I'm new here, but i've been a charray fan for the longest time. well i just saw something interesting that i wanted to share with everyone. i was watching this video,
35th TVB Anniversary: -live urls are not allowed in your usergroup-
and i was wondering... is it me? or is charm and ray paired up holding hands as they run onto the stage at around the 4:30 mark.

hello fellows I have read all of your guys post just that i don't have time to responds to u all will do it later on when I have more time, u will see my post in this weekend
oh I just want to share the joy with u all I know that many of u guys did go to the charray rating poision thread and there was so many mean post there but I can tell u guys a good news that is the thread have been less active and there aren't ppl that bashing this lovely couple anymore and i have seen that there are more and more ppl that write in the charray thread in DOL section and most of the post is positive where ppl posting how great they are, that they shared a great chemistry, think they are cute couple ect this just prove how awesome this couple really are, I think charray have gained alot of fans after TDOl don't u guys think so too?

one_dream
b/c u are new here u are not allowed to post those url links here but I know what u are talking about andl u are totaly right u can see charray holding hands in the 35th TVb anniversary.
oh I wanted to welcome u to this thread hope u will chat with us more about this lovely couple and make this thread more active!


All they way charray!!!!

hey everyone！！！！ i finally have time to get on today yayy!!! i was planing on getting on in the morning but i already wake up at like 5:30 because me bus comes at 6:20 in the morning. But anyway... does anyone have the link for episode 41. I've been looking like every inch for it but can't seem to find it. well i must go back to schoolwork. I have a french test to study for tomorrow and i need to finish this book called Speak. I don't like high school as much. Middle school was much funner. And who said that Charmaine's acting sucked?? She's good. but i must say in her first series she wasn't soo good but she has improved a lottt. well i must go now. Ciao!

Thanks to one_dream i have add one more thing in the charray common list

back to the common list for charray!
1) both are contracted artists of TVB
2) both like Chow Yuan Fat
3) both like Japanese food
4) both love kids
5) both starred in Yummy Yummy, LWOLAP, and DOL, and more to come
6) They both have similar sunglasses!
7) Uses the same make-up mirror thingy.
8) Are both mature and intelligent people .
9) Loves to joke and laugh.
10) Loves to act in dramas and those inspirational series.
11) Both have won TVB most favourite character awards
12) Both don't mind the age of their partner (Raymond doesn't care if his gf is older than he is and Charmaine doesn't mind if her bf is younger)
13) Their favorite animal is dog!
14) both won the best actress/actor award in astro in the year 2006
15)both won the best actor/actress in AAA during 2006
16) both have a huge fanbase in China (raymondforest.com and shehsheh.com)
17) They both can sing(and they're good at it).
18) Are in very good contact with their family.
19) They both prefer to film modern series.
20) Raymond thought of Charmaine as "little girl" (he even added "She is still a little girl") and Charmaine thought of Raymond as "little boy"
21) They both describe each other as hardworking and professional
22) They both like Japanese cartoon cat (Raymond likes Ding Dong, the mechanical cat, and Charmaine likes Hello Kitty)
23) both like to sing
24) they both drive marcedes-Benz (not the same kind of model)
25) They both like to wave their hand when say "No"
26) They both like to use their hands when sing Happy b-day in the qq interview u could see that ray did that and in E-buzz when charm and moses was the guest they interviews them and charm did the same thing when they was talking about the wrong celebration for moses
27) Both are kids at heart!
28) Both have habit of pushing their glasses up using their middle fingers
29) Both described as gracious. Raymond being gentlemanly and saying "I'm OK with it" whenever they go out for food and Charmaine going anywhere with you eventhough she's not feeling like it.
30) Both of them definitely really rich
31) Witty people! Raymond with his snake-bitten comment and Charmaine's countless comments that rendered reporters speechless
32) Both definitely has a lot of rumours on being the playgirl/playboy type.
33) Their interviews are always enlightening. I get inspired when I read Charmaine and/or Raymond's interviews and their opinions on life as well as their past experiences.
34) both of them have thought about to go off screne ( quiting from the industry)
35) both of them have study overseas
36) Good at acting
37) Both use multiple phones
38) both have a secret sign that just they two know of
39) both cover their mouth when they laugh
40) both show their pearly whites when they smile
41) TVB wants to promote both in mainland market!
42) Both are talking about the same kissing scene from DOL
43) Charm have never kiss a male like she did in DOL in reallife, and ray have never been kiss like that in reallife
44) Charray often wear matching outfits (coincidental or not? )
45) Both prefer their love partner to be more traditional Chinese (not westernize)
46) Both want to focus on their career and just want to date when they have time
47) Both have acted in series where their characters died only twice; one time in ancient era and one time in modern era: Charm (ancient: Strike at Heart and modern: Seven Sisters) and Ray (ancient: Twins of Brother and modern: Heart of Greed)
48) Both are proud owner of a dog. Ray has Mimi and Charm has (unknown)
49)The first tear that drop from their eyes is almost everytime from the right eyes (sometimes it will be different )
50) both of them have been the judge for Minutes to Fame in Malaysia
51) They both really like the boy who performed MJ in Minutes to fame in Malaysia
52) Both of them are very positive persons (most of the times they are happy like the host said in QQ interview in 365 u guys are happy in 364 )
53) Charray both went to Japan during August 2007 (together? wink.gif )
54) Both of them attend the class that was held buy chow yeung fat
55) Both sang the song for HK during 2002 or something like that.
56) Both was on the childern award song 2007 and get at least one award
57) Both of them have acted evil role but then turn to be kind in the end. ray in FTF and charm in DOL ( thanks to AhSi that comment about charray have been in evil role, I didn't count HSDS in b/c charm lost her memory that's y she turn to be kind again )
58) both have two sibilings ray have a younger brother and a younger sister as for charm she have an older brother and an younger brother
59) Both received their first award after 3 years entering this showbiz, charm for her role as Gwan hou in 2000 and ray for his role in A step in to the past 2001
60) They both can express themselves very well with only their eyes!
61) Both like to act out characters with more emotions." sam cheng"
62) They both want to travel to europe during their vacations but have never had time for that

63) Charray was "paired" up in the 35th TVB anniversary when the "fa dans and sui sangs" sang alot of old theme songs they was the youngest generation in that circel

WeiGirl93
here is the dl link for DOL

eps 41 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R32SYRZ6

eps 42 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N7RDNV7Q

eps 43 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V061K3L1

and the newest eps 44
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KZMO2BAU

enjoy!!!

Jupi - lol thats a long list! but nice to think about =))

OMG i was like so hyper, excited... having a heart attack when i watching EPisode 44 of DOL!

so far i think it was the BEST episode so far for charray (at least for the sad scenes) the happy ones of course is epi 30

my god.. the scene where ray was begging Charm to kill him was very emoitonal made me cry! ahh!

then the scene where he chased after charm after finding out about the miscarriage was simply amazing!! This time ray really made me cry.

hehehe great episode. I can't stop smiling and thinking of it now. Next episode aw they decide to go to far away place together! cannot wait for it.

i have to admit, the rayolie scenes in episode 44 was pretty touching too. the picture taking and when ray was reading letter.

But it looks like ray likes myolie too... or has some kinda deep feeling.. preview of epi 45 seems like Ray only asked charm to marry him again because Zhen Man told ray not to "gu fu" Myolie's plans...

anyways, there better be more cutee / sweet / sad anything of charray after episode 45. because it looks like after tomorrow.. we have seen all the charray scenes that we know of. lol

Too bad Charm has such low chances of having a baby .. awww poor her =(

hiii aZnangel u might not know me because im a newbie here o__O

anyways i wanna see tvb anniversary 35 where u guys said charray where holding hands something like thats xD

aZnangel, don't worry, there are a lot of sweet scene and emotional scenes when Pong asked Fung to marry him again. You will find out that he asked her to marry him NOT because Zhen Man told him so. Be prepared. You will cry again at the wedding scene. So touching!

Yes, I saw that clip too. Unfortunately the clip I had was in very bad quality. It's amazing that back then Charray already has lots of chemistry and co-ordination.

REally, Jupi? I gotta go to the DOL link to see. THat's great news! That's what we have been hoping for when we know that Charray will be a pair in DOL, right? I sure hope there will be some sort of best couple award in any of those award ceremonies.....It's sure win for Charray lah!

Hey guys, I'm finding myself kind of frustrated with Sau Fung right now. Don't get me wrong I love Charray... but her character is driving me nuts right now. She could be really mean sometimes... Like what she did to Bing Yee on her birthday. That wasn't very nice, I mean she could have always proved to Zhen Pong another way. And that whole thing about her breaking off the wedding, I feel like she's completely over reacting. Her mother committing suicide was no one's fault... Ray's Mom was trying to protect her family, there's nothing wrong with that. So why is Sau FUng trying to get revenge? And why is she tearing herself from the man she loves the most because of it? She chooses to break his heart? Poor Zhen Pong... it took him forever to finally move on. And he was so heart broken! I felt she was just a wee bit cold...

But yes, I'm glad that Zhen Pong and Sau Fung have finally got back together! It was the most touching thing ever! But yet she's still being soooo stubborn.... She's so lucky to have someone like him!

oooh charray were holding hand in 35th TVb anniversary?!
can some1 tell me where you can find the clip?

hahah what?! charray holding hands in 35th anniversary?! i dont remember seeing that.. but but omgsh i would love to see if its true.

myhelen - aww i just finished epi 45. Pretty good! haha but seems like charm still can't let go and yeah i agree she's a little 'mean' near the end when she was talking to Gigi Wong.

oh emotional scene in the wedding?! AH can't wait to see that.. xD
i guess because of that JOE MA!! ... charray wont be going anywhere.

i know i saw somewhere that charray will end up in the end, but somehow i'm doubting! will they end up?

Ah Si - hey yea lol i'm not familar with you. but Nice to meet you! and welcome to charray thread.. =) after watching DOL for some weeks.. i am totallly obsessed with them now lol so dont mind my 'crazyness'


ah i was just thinking. Do they always have to link joe and charm together. lol in DOL i noticed that their characters are somewhat the same - greed for money and evil-ish. Of course charm is so much better but still. Then they have some kinda connection in the end. mm

Mack
ok well I have posted up dl links for eps 41-44 hope this will help u I lvoe the torrent take me like one hour or less to dl a file think it's quite fast

bittersweet05
hello my fellow Charray-teer ^^sorry that I haven't repons to u late, have so much to do in school, well now when it's weekend I can be here and post
Well i don't really understand y Pong started with bing yee and i really don't get it y he propose to her I mean he know that he loves Sau Fung. Well u are right I do think that Bing yee know that Pong have never forgot about Sau fung but she still think she can change that fact. it's nice to know that in the end bing yee realize that both Pong and Fung is still very in love with eachother.
hahaha yeah ray is really smart it's great that he indirect answerd that question about his feelings toward charm didn't denied it or anything just too sweet when I think about that ^^
Well it's great that we are alike then u truly understands me and maybe u will undersstand what kind of feeling I have when I'm watching charray together
how have your teachers been lately?
Thanks for the transaltion of pongs blog and the post other fans have posted. I just love the blog I have read Sau fungs blog even if I didn't understand all of what she had wrote but I could understand the little thing that was "she could see that Pong was still loving her and even if he said that Bing yee was better ect from eps 42 she still could see from his face expression that he didn't mean that"

AhSi
thanks for posting the pics up, I have never seen that pic with ray holding a charRay singpost ^^

Ida101
I have thougth about that as well, but I can't think of any actress/actors that could take Pongs and Fungs character and pull it off like charray I mean they really have made an amazing job in portraying this character. I know what u are meaning they really make us feel the sweet feeling, I will smile just thinking about this sweet couple and when I see them hurt/ cry I will feel the same, I don't think any couple before have made me feel this way. maybe charlian
Well I didn't have the same stong feeling for this couple during LWOLAP but I still could feel the pain in them when CMY and FHL get separated and was "against" eachother but u are right that this feeling for them is much stronger in DOL maybe b/c this is a modern serie and they really can show off their real feeling u know the ancient serie can't bee to "modern"
I totaly agree with u that watching the canto version of eps 42-44 was a big different from the CCTV version I love rays expression he used a great voice and I just love this part more in canto version I have lost count in how many times I have re-watch this part just too awesome

babysports
I love the blog too, is great to know what the characters are thinking, Reading Pongs blog is really heartmelting and heartbreaking u really can see and feel how much he loves Fung.
I totaly agree with u, to hear their real voice is much better then the dub version I mean the pronunciation and expression in their voice is soo good and it really hit your heart.
Well my fave kissing scene is after the competition ray was on I just love that part. :wub they really look like a happy couple that really loves eachother. Yeah I understand what u are meaning, charray seems so comfortable with eachother no matter on-screne or off screne they are amazing

babyV.
Well I hope that u have catch up the eps now, b/c u really should watch eps 44 it's one of the best moment ever!! Charray are just too amazing and they really made a great job. I cried so much but in the same time I some what was smiling of joy ^^

jessie1314
U are not the only one that don't like jes characater in DOL I think her character is too weak, I myself love charms character in DOL I think she have made a wonderful job in portraying this character. Well there are always ppl writing crap about actress and I totaly think that charm can handle this kind of bad news. As we all know that charm is nominated for the best actress in the Internationall Emmy award so her acting is already known and many pro judge have prove that
Well I really hope that charray will get the best actress/actor award this year too but as u said I think the chance for charm to take it again is slim, but there can always be a supprise like last year I myself think she have done an amazing job and really deserv a best actress award for her performance in this serie. *crossing my fingers for charray to get the best actress/actor)

fly_ultimate
I love that part too, charm was heartbroken and so was ray when he was yelling at charm. and the fact that he told charm that she have aborted their son and isn't that enought that must hurt so much for charm " take a knife and stab right in her heart"

Myhelen
Hahaha this is soo fun I don't like Gigi's character in this serie as well I don't understand her. in eps 44 after charray get back together again I thought she have mostly accepted the fact that ray really love charm and charm was the victim in this whole situation but then after awhile she can't accept her and think she is not good enought for her son. I just hate her!!! Yeah u are right we shouldn't get mad as long as we know that charray loves eachother then nothing really matter.

aZnangel
Yeah the list is long but this remind us how much things charray have in common. they are just too perfect with eachother ^^ I myself is enjopying every moment to fill that list. but for now I can't think of any more common thing maybe later on
Yeah eps 44 was the best charray moment during the sad scenes and nothing can peek the eps 30 that was awesome, but stay tuned and wait for the eps where charray got married is really sweet too but in the sametime somewhat sad =(

kingdom_riku
Well if u really want to watch that part on the TVB 35 anniversary u can go to tudou.com and find it there othervise I can post that link here so u can watch they jsut holding hands in a short time but I really like the face expression charm had when she lend her hand to ray she has the brightes and sweetest smile ever

Jupi - haha yeah!! thank you so much for creating the list. theres so many things i didnt even know about =) hope you or me or any other charray fans comes up with more! and continue the list .. hehe

ahh yeah just as Ray's DOL sub.... they have some sort of distance, after all that happened. I definitely cannot wait for the marriage scene ~

i was watching the QQ chat again the other day... (with english subs) lol so cute and funny! they were so very perfect for each other lol

by the way, does anyone have the QQ chat with english subs (the one that Sehseh translated) and could upload it for me? I didnt get a chance to download it. =/ Thanks alot in advance!

aZnangel
lol of course i wont mind ur craziness everyone in the charray thread is crazy about them

Jupi
thanks i made that where ray was holding the charray sign

oh and Jupi i prefer you most the link up=) cause i cant find that video in todou.com o_O

YAYYYY! Charray is finally back togetherrrr!!!!! *does a mid-air somersault* LOL! I just finished watching ep44 and GOD, even though i've already watched it in mandarin, it just doesn't hold a torch next to the canto version! With the original voices, it just adds THAT much more to the entire effect and i was totally tearing up when Ray hugged Charm and kept saying "I'm sorry, i'm sorry." VERY VERY powerful & bittersweet (haha my name!) scene indeed!

Jupi: *waves* HI!! Aww that's okay, i''ve been busy with school too. LOL sooo glad it's finally the weekends so i can finally come here and post till my heart's content about my #1 fave couple! Ehh...school is okayy...my bio teacher is still (he was blowing bubbles in class the other day...lol, don't ask he's a very odd man ) ANYWAY, thanks for posting the dl link for ep44!!! I knew that Charray would finally get back together yesterday so i sneaked online and managed to download and watch it and i don't know if it's possible, but i think i love them even moree!! I think both Ray and Charm have overdone themselves once again and gave absolutely flawless, AMAZING performances on both sides. When Ray hugged Charm and kept saying "I'm sorry" you could see in his eyes just HOW sorry he is and how much he really loves her. In fact, IMO when he first hugged her, he was hugging her REALLY tightly, almost as if he was afraid to loose her again (lol Charm looked like she was getting a bit squished! ) Haha i re-watched it and counted how many times Ray said sorry. (lol i know i'm lame, but yeah, if anyone's interested, he said it five times) But yeah, i just can't stop raving about that scene! It was soooooooo superbly done!!! Ray's tears were SO real; he really did act his heart out (of course, because of his Charmie! ) I'm not saying his acting wasn't good before; his acting has always been VERY good, but i think in DOL his acting honestly reached a whole another level. Especially his crying/emotional scenes. Just flawless. And same goes for Charm. Yay Charray! I was at Pong's blog today and the whole comment space underneath was TOTALLY filled with supportive comments for Pong+Fung!! I was soooo happy! Charray is really gaining a large group of supporters after DOL! Whoo hoo!!! BTW, it'd be great if you can post the link for the TVB 35th anniversary clip, thanks! (haha right now i can just about moon over ANYTHING remotely related to Charray!)

Just on a side note, maybe it's just me, but i was wondering if anyone else felt that Zhen Pong was a bit ummm...confusing? I'm referring mostly back to his blog entries; one day he's saying to Sau Fung "please destroy me all you want but don't harm my family....because i still love you" and the next entry (which was like the next day/episode) he's saying he can't live w/o Bing Yee and asks her to marry him? Next you know, he's back with Sau Fung like nothing happened?! I just find it a bit rushed and random that he can change so fast. In his entry, he mentioned that he does not know whether he has love towards Bing Yee or just gratitude...and in another he says he still loves Sau Fung and then in another he asks Bing Yee to marry him and in the next one, he's back together w/Sau Fung.....i dunno, i just find it...well WEIRD. As some commenters have mentioned on Pong's blog, how can he be so confused and utterly in love with possibly two women at the same time to being so clear-minded that he only loves Sau Fung? And another thing, if Bing Yee never told him about the baby incident, would Pong have just married Bing Yee and lived happily ever after, cutting Sau Fung out of his life completely and forever?

Can't wait now for Pong+Fung to get married!! Another kiss to look forward to!!! (and last kiss too.... )

Thanks Jupi
But I've already seen them, I must have looked through several pages on google to find something quicker, but I couldn't find it. I couldn't wait
Episode 44 was so sweet! I'm glad they finally got back together, seeing Rayolie was just bad. I prefer Myolie with the mainland actor.

aZnangel
u are welcome, I'm glad that u find the list intresitng and u get more knowlage about this lovely couple after reading it well if I should be honest I wasn't the one that come out with this idea to have a common list of this couple it was dawnlight that come up with this good idea just that I keep the list active ^^ I mayself love rays sub theme for DOL I think it suit the FungPong relationship very good, sorry I don't have the clip with eng subtitels but I think that sehseh have saved it, I can ask her

AhSi
No prob, I can post the link here if u can't find it on tudou, well it's not a dl link I don't have that clip either just that u can watch it online but the version is somewhat blurry so u know


bittersweet05
*waves back* Yeah i'm very happy that it's weekend too so I can go to this thread and post and discuss about this lovely couple. haha well I don't know what to say about our teacher =P U are welcome I'm glad that I coule help I know that there are so many that don't like torrent files so I just put the direct dl link here to help u guys out and eps 44 is must seen eps of charray!! i just love this eps one of the best charray moments in DOL. and I must say that it's totaly different to watch the TVB version then the CCTV version even if I think the person who dubt charms voice was pretty good I still prefer the real voice it gave me a totaly different feeling. Well both charray have mad an ecxellent job in TDOL they have peeked to another level in their acting, and I truly think that rays performance was so much better then his old once is b/c he had a great costar ray really have made a great job in crying it was so heartbroken to see him cry, as I have always love charms crying skills so there is no doubts that she is great in that. I just love the stabbing scene!!! lov rays expression and charms awesome crying, and the hugging afther charm had take the bottel from ray was so great ray really huged her ver tightly. But the apology scene was well done of charray, I just love that ray was keep saying sorry to charm and the face expression charm had when he first huged her. aww!! just to great I really hope that they will get the best actor and actress award for their role in TDOL b/c they really deserv it!!! I can't remember how many times I have re-watch the hugging scene, they are just to awesome, well thanks I didn't count how many times ray said sorry I was amazed buy their performance how great both cried.
Really? When I was in the Fung and Pongs blog yesterday I saw some mean english comment that someone said I hate u to Sau fung and think that Pong is stupid to get back with Sau Fung.
Well first I was abit confused buy Pong too sometimes he said he love Fung and then the day after he write that about bing yee but after I have analysed and think about the whole situation I think that y Pong wanted to marry Bing yee was b/c he wanted to prove to Fung that no matter how hard she try to hurt him and make hin suffer, he still could live happily with the one he so called "love" ect. Well I can't wait for the wedding either, maybe there are more kissing scene just that we don't know off =P we will see if there will be some suprise for us like in eps 30. it was different from the CCTV version so just hope that there will be more charray scene in the TVB one ^^

Mack
U are welcoe, maybe I was to late with posting the links but nice to know that u find it well I couldn't wait till this weekend to dl it either I really wanted to see charray together.
Agree with u eps 44 was really good I loved it


here is the link for the 35th TVB anniversary

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/tKiVzRJTwxc/

AhSi
in the begining u can see charm will stay with gallen, jessica and roger.charm is with gallen when they four are singing and ray stay behind with black leather jacket. and then when they walk out from that cage u can see that charray is the first pair. I hope this will help if u still can't see them I can re-watch the clip and tell u the exact time when u can see charray



i just find a clip of charray during the DOL filming haven't seen it before so I thought to share it with u guys

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bFG93rlqwMI

I think that all of u guys really should watch this clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=92zHo4NU3qg

it's have been taken during charray filming for DOL eps 19 the sweet dating scene and u can see that charray are eating the same kind of saté and just going around after filming

Jupi
it would be great if you tell me what time CharRay came out

AhSi
oki in 00:43 u can see charm beside Gallen, in 01:30 u can see ray between roger and moses,
in 01:40 u can see charm standing farthest out in the row to left (your left) 03:54 u will see ray going in the cage and finaly charray meet in 03:58 u will see charm handing her hand to ray in 04:05 u can see that charray are holding hands and runing in to the studio (they are first of all actors) 04:33 u will see ray standing infron of charm and they start singing. ok I think I have write down every single moment of charray on this clip and hope this will help ^^

Jupi HAHA jupi you are cracking me up! you really did write down every single moment of what happend ~ just amazing. my god! i didnt even notice they were the pair that ran in together and i saw that clip like many times before. AWWW charm was so cute back then haha. wish the clip was clearer and focused more on them XP

Thanks jupi for sharing the never before seen clips of charray during the filming! The Youtube uploader, also shared a lot more of the filming scenes if you click on his name, theres a lot that we haven't seen before. (as least i havent). nice to see them off screen chatting and eating lol. It must of been freezing in Beijing, charm had her jacket on all along during filming found that funny.. for some reason.

look at this clip (epi 22 charm's mom funeral filming) - looks like charm fell a bit over while trying to lean on ray? haha..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UtxJQA8JTes

oh can you ask sehseh if she has it for me? ah thanks your such a sweetie *hugs*

i found a article:



i think it says will raymond get this year's male lead? 14/9/2007

Jupi: Thanks for posting the clip! Haha WOW i'm amazed how you could even tell it was Charm and Ray! I was on the verge of going blind! (anything for Charray!) Thanks for timing all the Charray moments, or else i would've honestly went blind trying to look for them! Haha, yeah the quality was kinda poor and the camera kept going all over the place; but a Charray moment is still a Charray moment. (Charm looked really eager to hold hands with her Ray-Ray ) How many years ago was this? (both Ray and Charm looked so cute and young!)

I couldn't agree more with you! ep44 is a definite memorable/super/amazing/tear-squeezing episode indeed! My heart honestly ached along with them; they were THAT good. Yeah, i totally think Charm and Ray should get Best Actor/Actress awards this year for their roles in DOL because their acting is just absolutely AMAZING and ha ve really peaked like never before! Oooh did you watch ep45 yet? It was sooooo cute when Charm and Ray were eating dessert and Charm was like "Well i won't go to the car ceremony...but sightseeing and eating at Beijing, i'll consider!" (or something like that, i couldn't remember the exact words) and Ray had the CUTEST face on and pinched Charm's nose. OMG that was just SOOOOOOOO adorable!! And i must say, that was the first time i've seen Ray with THAT expression on (when scrunched up his nose and had that really cute smile on when Charm said she'll go to Beijing w/him) And i've definitely never watched him pinch anyone's nose before! Also, i just LOVE that scene in the park where Charray had the flashback of their first "date" w/$40. That little deja vu was just too cute and i love how Ray was like "Can you marry me again?" Also, i find it just so super sweet that even though Charm had totally blown the dinner, his first intention was always her. Like when they got back to the hotel, he was massaging her temples for her and asking if they should order room service 'cause she didn't eat anything during dinner. Sau Fung had caused quite an uncomfortable/awkward situation at dinner but his priority was and is always Sau Fung. It really shows just how much she means to him and how much he loves her.

Yeah, i think you're right; at that point Pong knew he couldn't or shouldn't hurt Bing Yee anymore because if he did, he'll be the biggest, rottenest, most hateable man on earth. Bing Yee had always been there for him, helping him, supporting him, picking him up from the lowest point in life, sacrificing so much for him. And in the past he had hurt her already so i think he feels that it's his responsibility/obligation to not hurt her ever again. And if it means burying his own emotions and feelings [because he still and has always loved Sau Fung and only Sau Fung] he'll do it. In his opinion, marrying Bing Yee [even though he does not love her and only sees her as a very good friend] is the best "repayment" he can give her. After all, it isn't the first time we've seen people mistaken gratitude for love. [lol TVB and its many cheesy plot lines...but of course DOL is wayy better!!]

LOL i think this msg is really long...hmmmnnn weren't we having a competition as to who had the longest post? I think i'm finally having a CHANCE of winning! Haha...ooh do you happen to have the clip of the CCTV version proposition (the one where Pong+Fung get hitched in Vegas?) I thought that was really sweet, the scene were they were at the hotel room and Ray asked Charm to bore the Wah Family with half a dozen of little "piglets"(kids). Too bad they didn't show that in the TVB version...mann if they did i would've just had a heart attack, w/the kissing proposal and then the hotel scene too...haha!

AhSi: Haha yup, the article is talking about the likeliness of Ray getting Best Actor and being the new "TV King" this year after the success of DOL and HOG. Awww i wish they'd done a Charray article instead of just a Ray article [even though i love Ray]. It would just be my dream come true for Charm and Ray to be the TVB TV King and Queen!

I love charray!!!!
definitely the best tvb on-screen couple~~~
the drive of life was meaningful for me because of them hehe
this is such a good place to discuss about charray lol ^^

btw, I asked my friend to make some charray stuff for me,
she made all these in 2hrs, she's quite busy~making her chun stuffs= = (I am a horrible friends lol)

aZnangel
Hahaha u are welcome, I'm glad that I could help u out. is't true? when I watch that anniversary like 5 years ago I already notice that charm was paired with ray but I wasn't a charray fans back then I was only charms fans but I didn't know who ray was Well I hope there will be a clearer version on the web too but I think it's hard to find it. I just have this anniversary on tape so can't upload it =(
U are welcome I thought that I should share that with u guys b/c it's funny to see, well I have seen the other clips before but I hadn't had time to post it up here that's y.
I think that charm was playing around with ray when she lean on ray if u re-watch the clip she do it twice and at the same time smiled no prob I can ask sehseh I will tell u if she had it left or not

bittersweet05
Well I'm a super fans of charm so I can see her don't matter if the screne is blurry or not as for ray i think it's easy to recon him Yeah I agree with u I think charm really looms so happy when she was runing to ray ^^ and ray was cool as always, Well this is the 35th TVB anniversary so it is like 5 years old or something. I really like this anniversary charm was soo cute and it had a specal part with the "big sisters" if u have watch the anniversary show before u know that liza wang, dodo, ect will make a little show to celebrate TVBs birthday and in the 35th anniversary charm was one of the fa dans that help them in the show and u really can see that charm is so real I mean she didn't hide anything, she said the names of the rumores she had without thinking I mean many actress don't like to mention it but charm wasn't affraid of anything that is soo dam good!! *just love it*
eps 44 for sure is one of the best eps in DOL and for charray as well. I just love their expressions in every single part , the scene where ray baged charm to stab him was amazing, ray was heartbroken and so was charm u really could see that charm didn't want to hurt ray anymore... and the hugging scene after charm throw the bottle I love it how tight ray was huging charm and then he realize that he is still in a relationship with Bing yee just love it.
let us cross our fingers for charray to take the best actor/actress award this year, i do think that ray have a big chance Ray have been amazing in DOL and he really have peakted to another level in acting so do charm but I don't have the same confidence in her not that she isn't good or anything like that but I don't think that TVB will give her the best actress award in a row. But so far I think charm is the strongest competition in the best actress category.
yupp I watch eps 45 yesterday and I agree with u that charray was so sweet when they eat the dessert I love that scene when I watch the mandarin version, yeah that face ray did was so sweet and I haven't see him do that kind of facve expression before I'm sure it's b/c it's his lovely charm that bring that sweet face out :wub
I think it great to know that ray understands charm even if she blown the dinner he understands her and just consider if she was ok or not that is awesome!
Well nice to know that u agree with my analys of Pongs "weird" feelings ect. I think that everyone want to be loved and bing yee really love Pong even if Pong just love Sau fung he was happy to have a women there that really love him. as I have always say it's better to find a person that love u more then u love him/her and Pong was exactly in that situation so he just want everything to be smooth

Hahaha if u didn't mention it I have already forgot about it well I think your post was really long and u do have a BIG chance to beet me
Sorry I don't have that clip I have the whole eps instead, maybe I can slipt the eps so u can get the clip but I don't have that kind of pogram to do that, so maybe I can ask around and see if anyone have it. Or I think I have seen that clip on tudou u can always go there and browse around if u don't find it tell me a can post the direct link here.
Well I really like the las vegas part too especially the scene in the hotel room where ray said " before I have the big chinese wedding (bat jan dah kui) u should first born a dozen of little pigglets" that was just too sweet me like me like hm I wonder if TVB can bake in that las vegas part in the canto version if they could it would be awesome but I don't think they will do that b/c we all know that the chance that charm can be pregnant again is low so ray wouldn't say that to her

gillianismyidol
welcome to this thread! I'm so glad to hear that u are a charray fans as well. and thanks for sharing the nice banners with us u really should thankk your friend from me ^^


this is a new charray MV please enjoy
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/RDadjTx-GL0/

Jupi: AHHHH....noooo i think your post just beated (haha is there such a word as "beated"? ) mineee! *drops to the ground in devastation* LOL, just kiddinggg! LOL we have a "friendly" competition, isn't that right? ROFL! Man i just love this couple so darn much!! As i think someone has said already, their relationship in DOL is acted out so well that it's like SCARY real because both Charm and Ray's (errr Pong + Fung's) emotions were portrayed just so flawlessly and realistically that most of us have been warped up into the whole FungPong relationship. And yeah, i agree with what you said about Ray having a VERY good chance of getting Best Actor this year (LOL, seems like all i've been doing lately is agreeing with you! I guess great minds think alike! ) It's true; TVB doesn't usually give out the same awards to the same person consecutively...except i think Roger Kwok...didn't he get Best Actor both years in a role for his role of Ah Wong? But it would just honestly be AMAZING if both got Best Actor + Actress! (i'll love TVB fore forever if they do heehee!) LOL i know this might be random but yeah, this "competition" (our little who-has-the-longest-post-competition) is actually very "educational" -- we get to improve our typing skills! LMAO! But yes, Ray definitely will be one of the biggest/heaviest contenders this year; his tears in DOL just melted hearts...so many emotional scenes (when Sau Fung left him, when he found out their baby was gone, when Sau Fung came back, to when he finally found out the truth about the "abortion", then his father's accident and THEN finding out that Sau Fung was the one who had hit Damien...WOW...talk about drama! ) I think Ray handled his scenes just superbly and i can safely say that him (along with Charm of course!) are one of the best, if not the best, criers in TVB! (i don't usually cry when watching tv, haha my mom is the sucker. XD but when i watched DOL, the Charray scenes have really...ermm... "triggered my tear ducts" lol. Charm is also a good contender for Best Actress, but like you've said, knowing TVB, it's rare for them to give Best Actress to the same person two years in a role. And along the same lines, this isn't the first time Charm has given a memorable/amazing performance (MW, DOP, WAB...etc.) but it's the first time for Ray (or at least according to mee...i think his role in DOL is just the utmost best performance given to him by date). But i'll definitely be rooting for Charray at the awards ceremony this yearr!! (maybe TVB will go crazy and give Charray the awards...haha i could see it now....Charray as the new TVB King+Queen!!

BTW, i was watching some of the clips you posted the link to on youtube (the ones of Charray during filming) and Charray are both soooo cute even behind the scenes! Haha i remember in one scene (i think it was a park scene in Beijing) and while they were setting up for the next scene, Ray picked up a ball/hackey sack and started kicking it around, i SWORE he was trying to impress Charm because he was doing it right in front of her (she was sitting on a bench w/her script) and he kept looking her wayy It was just really nice to see Charray just as Charray and not "PongFung" for once. It was also pretty evident that Charray are obviously very good friends in real life (remember in the QQ interview, they said they actually knew each other a long time ago, like they met at some lecture given by Chow Yun Fat...wow that must be such a long time ago considering Ray said it was when he had JUST graduated from acting classes...lol i just think it's amazing that they both remember EXACTLY when and how they first met when i don't even remember what i wore yesterday. but that's just mee! lol!) Oh and in another clip (it was from the filming of the scene where Charm and Ray and his mum and dad visits Cheung Ping's grave to tell them about Charray's engagement) and Charm had to keep picking up the bouquet of flowers and placing it on the grave and then i think Charm noticed a bug on the flowers and Ray, being the gentleman he is, took the flowers from Charm and shook the bug off for her. I just thought that was really sweet and it wasn't scripted or anything.

I know! What he said at the hotel was really sweet esp. the little piglet part. But now it makes me sad to think that Charm will probably never get the chance to be pregnant again. My dream ending to DOL was always for Ray and Charm to have a whole bunch of little Charrays! (well, at least one heehee!). And i'm just wondering, in the series, does Pong know about Fung's infertility? (in Bing Yee's letter, she only mentioned that Fung had a miscarriage and did not have an abortion...but she didn't say anything about Fung's low chance of being pregnant) But i think that even if Pong knew, he wouldn't mind because he just loves her too much to care (even though he really likes kids too).

Oooh, just before i end this post (lol maybe my chance is back? ^^) you know what would be SUPER AMAZING INCREDIBLY awesome? If a bridal company gets Charray to be their spokes-couple!!! Omg that would just be my OTHER dream come true!! (if it isn't already on the "things they have in common list" already, both have been hired as spokesperson for a bridal company before; Charm with Chi Lam and Ray with Shirley Yeung and Lianne Li)

gillianismyidol: Haha, welcome to our big family where everything Charray is weclome! WOW, thanks for all those banners and avvies! Haha you're not a bad friend...you're just a very umm..."resourceful" friend!