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dawnlight
here you go kingdom_riku! The link to download Charray clip from ep 30 [post="http://www.sendspace.com/file/0vlf0a"]http://www.sendspace.com/file/0vlf0a[/post]

Sorry it took a while, I've been so busy this past days.

myhelen, wow, they cut a whole lot of Charray huh? I wonder why. Is it because there are more Charray scenes than any one else? I don't think so. I think Charray have so little scenetime compare to the veterans. Seeing the Charm-only clips are only a few minutes from each episodes.

bittersweet05, so the newest Harry Potter movie was a disappointment? I was going to watch it last weekend but I opt for that comedy with Adam Sandler instead. It was quite funny but like all Sandler's movies, lots of adult jokes. But quite enjoyable. Maybe I'll wait for Harry Potter to come out to DVD instead of spending more $ on the bigscreen since not many people like it from what I've heard so far. Please please update your fanfic please! I want to know who Charm will chose biggrin.gif

sehseh, I LOVE your avatar! That scene is so romantic and sweet and everything representing Charray love!! Can you tell me what program you use to make that animation? I want to make some of other scenes of Charray too but I don't know how. thank you!

Jupi, how was your vacation? where did you go? Did you see anything Charray related? heehee silly me. But I have to ask just for fun

hello fly_ultimate! welcome, I haven't seen you here before. Sorry but I don't know how to post up pictures. maybe other members can help. I want to see lots of Charray pictures here decorating this thread. biggrin.gif

Yay! DOL has the highest rating last week! 31 is not so bad but I hope it will be more this week with the tram ep where Charray kiss! Goodness, I hope TVB put that romantic kiss on the tram in and not cut it like dumb CCTV.
Jupi
dawnlight
Hello sweet, I have been in norway( oslo and bergen) it was really beautiful there but there wheren't any places that was related to charray =P I'm sorry maybe there aren't too many chinese there. But I didn't serach for them either so.
I wonder too y they cut off so many charray scene on the mainland version I mean shouldn't it have more scene time with them if TVB really wanted to promote this couple?anyway I think the Hk version is better and we will see more charray sweet scenes ^^

sehseh
I must say that your charray avatar is awesome they are so dam cute and I just love how charm have her head on ray and how she looked at him after they kissed.


one more question for u =P do u like charray more or charlian after watching DOL?
fly_ultimate
hi dawnlight
i didn't realize the chemistry that they both have until DOL
they look so sweet together!! smile.gif
i didn't watch the CCTV coz i don't understand mandarin that well
dawnlight
wow Jupi, that's great that you get to go to a beautiful country. If I'm not mistaken, you don't live in Norway right? I always want to go to Europe but can't afford it heehee. I'm still in school and probably have to wait until I graduate, find a job and then save enough money for plane ticket. Maybe I will bump into you there then lols

I thought that DOL is to promote Charray in Mainland market too! I don't understand why CCTV cut so many Charray scenes then. If anything, they should include more (the most) scenes with Charray to promote them. Since Charray both have so many fans in mainland, they should include more Charray scenes to draw in the viewers that are Charray's fans. Their rating would have been way higher I think! Oh well, that is the past. Now I just hope TVB do a better job at editing and keep all the Charray's scene especially the intimate kissing on the tram and the multiple kisses Ray planted on Charm.

If I remember correctly, there were also pictures from them filming another kisisng scene which was not feature in the cCTV version right? It was like at night and Charm was walking and Ray was standing in the corner (next to the phone booth or something) and spotted Charm so he quickly walk over to Charm and confront her about something. I remember seeing the clip where Charm have to redo the walking scene over and over and the wind keep blowing. Charray hugged and then kissed. I don't remember watching it in the CCTV version. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

fly_ultimate, are you a new Charray fan? I'm so glad more Charray fans are joining us! Have you watch LWOLAP and Yummy Yummy? They have amazing chemistry in those series too! I fell in love with Charray in LWOLAP and love them even more in DOL!
So you know Cantonese? are you watching the TVB version now? I have to wait a while since I don't know any Chinese lols

Jupi
dawnlight
U are totaly right I'm not from norway haven't been there before this was my first time biggrin.gif yeah maybe u will bump in to my some day =P
I think I understand what u are meaning the scene where charm had her jacket (the white one) on the half of her body and huged ray? I think that scene was the one where she was drunk. the same day charm droped her bracelet. I don't know if it's that scene but I think it's that scene just that they cut that huging part or something.
Yeah we should just leave the mainland version and focus on the HK version, and I'm sure there will be better and I don't think that TVB have cut the kissing scenes I mean if they did y did the film it at the first time =p hm. well the rating for DOL in mianland was great and I think that many ppl in mainland like it like it was. Don't know really but I would love to watch the sweet scenes with them biggrin.gif

fly_ultimate
nice to know that u have become a charray fans after u have watch DOL, don't worry the mainland version is not better then HK version it's always better to watch the "real" version witht the real voice.
I'm really happy to know that there have been more fans of this couple after DOL have aired.
dawnlight
QUOTE(Jupi @ Jul 24 2007 10 28 PM) [snapback]4217641[/snapback]
dawnlight
U are totaly right I'm not from norway haven't been there before this was my first time biggrin.gif yeah maybe u will bump in to my some day =P
I think I understand what u are meaning the scene where charm had her jacket (the white one) on the half of her body and huged ray? I think that scene was the one where she was drunk. the same day charm droped her bracelet. I don't know if it's that scene but I think it's that scene just that they cut that huging part or something.
Yeah we should just leave the mainland version and focus on the HK version, and I'm sure there will be better and I don't think that TVB have cut the kissing scenes I mean if they did y did the film it at the first time =p hm. well the rating for DOL in mianland was great and I think that many ppl in mainland like it like it was. Don't know really but I would love to watch the sweet scenes with them biggrin.gif


yeah yeah, that's the scene I was talking about! You have better memory than I do that Charm was drunk and wearing the white jacket in that scene. I think CCTV version showed they hugged but not kiss. I remember seeing pictures that fans took of them kissing in that scene. I'm not sure though. Maybe not, can anyone confirm? Could be I'm just imagining things due to my wishful thinking that Charray have more kissing scenes heehee.
myhelen
I think you guys got confused. I don't recall that drunken Charmine scene ended with Charray kissing. Hug, yes, but kiss? Hmmmmm,.....I don't think so woh. Maybe I am getting old and forget something lah. Can someone please check the filming clip? I think the kissing scene that is definitely missing is the proposal scene where Ray plants multiple kisses on Charm.

I am disappointed too since I thought DOL is to promote Charm and Ray to the mainland audience. I heard that CCTV cut some of Charm's and Charray's scene to minimize scenes that showed the "darker side" of the character, which is not that readily accepted in CCTV standard. E.g the scene asking Daimen and Gigi to kneel and the scene when Charm argues with Gigi and compared the situation to breaking Ray's leg but take care of him for the rest of his life.

I heard that TVB has cut out some Charray scenes too. Such as the one scene in epi 7 when Ray took Charm home and asked if she needs him to escort her upstairs. Geez, does that mean I have to watch both CCTV and TVB versions to ensure I don't miss out any Charray scenes? I am sooooo glad that some kind fans have extracted Charmaine only scenes so that I don't have to go through 58 episodes of DOL, which is quite boring without Charray. Now, I have to download Ray-only clips to make my list complete. Geez, my Internet services provider has already called me and said I am over limit lah.........
dawnlight
I think I am confused lols Somehow I thought there is one more kissing scene not feature in the CCTV version. I remember seeing pictures or clip of Charray filming a hugging scene and kiss and the wind was blowing. gosh, I can't remember.

Let's count the number of kissing scenes in the CCTV version so far okay?

1. Charm kisses Ray multiple times on the tram (no romantic kiss in CCTV version)
2. Where Charray were on their first "real" date: the bicycling, the kite flying, the flower giving, and the romantic kiss
3. Charray with their matching brown outfit strolling along a pathway after Ray won the bed making contest. This is my favorite kissing scene of Charray
4. At Charray's official wedding where the handsome groom and the beautiful bride kiss so lovingly

That's all I can remember right now. But I strongly think I'm missing another kissing scene. Am I going delusional? Cuckoo for Charray? unsure.gif

QUOTE(myhelen @ Jul 25 2007 2 25 AM) [snapback]4218367[/snapback]
I heard that TVB has cut out some Charray scenes too. Such as the one scene in epi 7 when Ray took Charm home and asked if she needs him to escort her upstairs. Geez, does that mean I have to watch both CCTV and TVB versions to ensure I don't miss out any Charray scenes? I am sooooo glad that some kind fans have extracted Charmaine only scenes so that I don't have to go through 58 episodes of DOL, which is quite boring without Charray. Now, I have to download Ray-only clips to make my list complete. Geez, my Internet services provider has already called me and said I am over limit lah.........


WHAT?!? How dare TVB cut out Charray scenes too! After all the emails and complaints with not enough Charray in CCTV version, I thought TVB actually learn something!! I guess they don't care about emails from outside of HK. *sigh* so TVB cut that whole scene out? the one where Ray give Charm a lift home and talk with her outside her house? Why the heck did they do that? There was even news about that scene with pictures, I remember, how Ray was hungry and have to go buy crackers or something. People who saw the news article is going to wonder what happen to that whole scene. Why did they even make Charray film those scenes if they are just going to toss it in the editing room! I am quite frustrated now. Gosh I just hope the Viet dubbed the version that has the most of Charray or I will just go even crazier. Sorry about the outburst, just need to let out some steam. innocent.gif
sehseh
Dawnlight, basically I capture the scene sec by sec and reassemble them again in Adobe ImageReady. Patience is really required for this.

I haven't have the time to go and learn how they add fancy design and stuff to animation yet. Maybe in the future.

Jupi, I'm afraid to tell you that Chilam-Charmaine is still numero uno to me.

TVB have updated some candid snapshots in the official site
http://tvcity.tvb.com/drama/the_drive_of_l...hots/index.html






There are more pics, so please go to the page above if you want to have a look.
myhelen
Dawnlight, the kissing scene that we are all referring to is the multiple kissing scene, which is the proposal scene in Beijing. Charm is angry at Ray and walks off and Ray took the opportunity to "force" her to marry him. Apparently, there are 2 versions to this scene. The CCTV version is when Ray pulled Charm into a taxi and took her to Las Vegas. The one we saw from the filming clips is that Ray planted multiple kisses on Charm on a busy street, making her yielding to his request.

Sehseh, I suppose Charlian has not collaborated for so long that some of us have forgotten how compatible and picture perfect they are. Maybe when we see them together again, that feelling will come back. Just curious, what do you think is lacking in Charray? Or should I ask, what is that you see in Charlian that's better than Charray? In a way, I think Ray and Chilam are very much alike. They both can totally torture and wrench your heart when they cry. Both have eyes that give out so much electricity that you will faint. They can both sing very well. They are both fun loving kids at heart. Sometimes I ask myself why do I like Charray more than Charlian now, and I still couldn't find the answer. Maybe it's their close resemblance. Maybe it's the character in the drama series that got me confused. Maybe I like Charm and Ray separately, so it's logical to love them as a pair. Lots of maybes. One definite answer - I really like Charray!
Ida101
just finished watch eps 7-9 of DOL!! and as mentioned above TVB did cut a Charray scene out.. very very not cool!! i was watching it then saw the scene where Ray took Charmaine home and they didnt show the bit when they both got out of the car.. i thought it was me going crazy but no they did in fact cut that scene out.. i hope that will be the first and last scene they cut out of Charray!!! almost up to the bit with the kissing on the tram.. getting very excited about that part.. woo!! anywho.. should calm myself down..
sehseh
myhelen, like you I'm a fan of Charmaine & Ray separately. I don't mind seeing them paired up together and they do have great chemistry in DOL. Many will kill me for saying this, but I do feel something lacking in LWOLAP. Whereas in other events they seem close, but all I can feel is friendship.

Whereas for for Chilam & Charmaine, I can feel the tremendous attraction in their first collaboration till there last one, be it series, movies, game shows or events. IMO, I am certain that at one time, they did have feelings for each other but things didn't work out for them, with many factors. And now with Chilam married and having a kid of his own, there is no more space for us fans to fantasize about, our dream was dashed. bleah.gif

With such 'imperfect ending', no other pairing can substitute CC.
myhelen
Sehseh, I agree with what you said about Charlian. I do feel and believe that they have real feelings for each other one point in time. Unfortunately, things didn't work out in our imperfect world. But contrary to your repsonse to the "imperfect" ending, I am trying to find another perfect half for Charmaine since I know I cannot put any more hope into Charlian pairing. Chilam being a family man now makes it really hard for me to believe in the love story he and Charm protray. With this dream shattered, I want to find another Charmaine pairing that I can truly put my passion into support and allow my wild imagination to believe in the touching love stories put right in front of my eyes. And I saw Charray. And I fell in love.

I could also understand why you think something is lacking in LWOLAP. I think it partly has to do with Mong Yiu's character being very calm and cool. Although to me, the "limited' chemistry is already good enough for me to love this pairing. When I watch DOL, I can say that their chemistry has again improved and enhanced. Their performance is indeed as Charm said in the interview, more mature and in greater depth. Their emotion scenes are so natural and powerful. And I just can't resist to support the 2 artistes I love the most to become a pair. At least on screen. Despite how addicted I may seem, at the back of my mind I still have a rational sense that only friendship exists between Charray in real life. At least right now. But there's always the future, right? tongue.gif

With all that said, I have redirected all my support and yearning for the Charlian pair into the Charray pairing. Plus the original support and affection for Charm and Ray, my addiction is getting deeper than ever. I sure hope there will be more of Charray series in the future. Afterall Joe and Jessica has colloaborated in over 5 series (according to their fans) so I hope charray can beat that.

I'd better start drafting my letter to TVB.
fly_ultimate
i really like the part where ray call char to kill him bcoz char has a grudge on the his family
that scene was so touching!! smile.gif
Jupi
dawnlight
U haven't missed any kissing scene from the CCTV cersion. they had just few kissing scenes in mainland version. I don't know if they have any kissing scene when charm was drunk but I can see if I can find that clip u are talking about.

sehseh
Great to know that u like CC so much, I don't know if my love for CC have decrease or not but I can say that I'm very in to Charray at this moment maybe b/c of no CC series or functions. but I agree with u that CC is a great couple. I feel the same I think that charray are really good friends in reallife. anyway I think that their chemisty is amazing in DOL..

Ida101
Yeah I know I watch eps 7 last night and I was abit mad at that too but I think that scene was not that importen I mean they did get the chatting wink.gif well is the tram scene steel on eps 9? if I will be very happy.

myhelen
Yeah I think the same as u, there haven't bee any CC series for long that's y many of us have forgot about the chemistry between that couple. and charray is so near and they did have a great chemistry together so many of us have focus on this couple instead...
I hope that TVB won't cut off anymore charray scenens. I really hope for more sweet scenes and I'm pretty sure about TVb won't cut off charm scenes if they do I will get angry and I'm sure I will bomb TVB with email.

fly_ultimate
I like that part too is so touching. I can't wait till the canto version really want to hear the real voice and see the emotions .D
Charray-lovo
hi! I just wanna ask in which eps can you see this scene ?
i only have a picture of it
THX in advance -live urls are not allowed in your usergroup-

oops i forgot that i'm not allowed to type the site srry!

okay i just describe it because i don't know how to put a picture in it
so raymond had a white shirt with stripes and charmaine a jacket ?
and charmaine is hugging raymond oow and she's crying
ansd you can see this picture on the previous archive on page 37
SRRY that i can't put the picture because i'm new here ><"
dawnlight
thanks sehseh for posting up those new pictures! Charray look like they're having so much fun filming with each other. I especially like the last picture, look like they're skipping happily away holding hands heehee too bad I don't know Chinese, so can't navigate the main website you provided.

It probably took you a while to capture and reaseemble that animation hah? Wow, it flow so nicely though. You did a very good job. I think I have Adobe ImageReady, maybe I will try my hand at it sometimes when I feel like I have enough patient, which is rarely lols

myhelen, ic then. I think my mind was playing tricks on me or maybe because I was so hoping there is still another kissing scene that we haven't seen yet. Maybe TVB will pleasantly surprise us with a romantic Charray kissing scene that have been kept a secret. Like on their wedding in Las Vegas perhaps? I hope. innocent.gif

Ida101, oh so they cut the part where Charray got out of the car and not the car ride scene right? That's better than cutting the whole thing I guess because that would be very foolish of them. The tram kissing scene is in ep 9 right? That won't get air until Thursday then. I can't wait to see. i hope TVB won't disappoint us again.
I just have to mention again that the Tower is great! Keep it up girl!

fly_ultimate, yeah, I like that part too! I was crying along with Charray. I love the background music when Ray walk away. It's so sad. But that won't come until later. Now just enjoy the bickering scenes and getting to know each other and falling in love scenes and the dating scenes heehee

Jupi, now that myhelen mentioned it, I don't think there was kissing in the scene where Charm got drunk anymore. It was just my wishful thinking so don't need to waste your time.

All that talk about how Charray are just friends in real life kind of got me down. You can tell i am not a rational person lols. Even though in reality, yes, they might not be a couple, but I really just prefer to dream in my Charray world that they are. When I watch them onscrene, it gave me a happy feeling I don't know how to describe. It like digesting a very very flavorful icecream or something like that. Maybe not, I dont' know how to say. But I really enjoy watching Charray on videos and seeing their pictures and discussing about them with you guys. I guess you can say this is a hobby of mine. Charray is perfect oncreen, them being a couple is better yet. But if they are just really close friends then that's okay too, as long as they will co-star with each other many many more time for us to get hyper over then I'm happy. Not as happy as if they are real life couple, but still happy.





QUOTE(kingdom_riku @ Jul 25 2007 6 32 PM) [snapback]4221781[/snapback]
hi! I just wanna ask in which eps can you see this scene ?
i only have a picture of it
THX in advance -live urls are not allowed in your usergroup-

oops i forgot that i'm not allowed to type the site srry!

okay i just describe it because i don't know how to put a picture in it
so raymond had a white shirt with stripes and charmaine a jacket ?
and charmaine is hugging raymond oow and she's crying
ansd you can see this picture on the previous archive on page 37
SRRY that i can't put the picture because i'm new here ><"



hi kingdom_riku, hmm, I'm not sure what scene you are talking about since there are many scenes of Charray hugging and Charm crying. And we are only on page 18 so I don't know where archive page 37 you mention is. Sorry for not much help. Are you sure you can't even post up a link to the picture?
fly_ultimate
i'm very excited for the first kissing scene of Charray of the show
omg we'll have to wait until episode 9 which will be aired on thursday
one day for me now feels so long and long and.... sweat.gif
i hope that they will get together in the end happy.gif
Ida101
the tram kissing scene isnt in ep9.. im guessing its either in ep10 or 11... im really looking forward to that scene and hope they wont cut it out or anything.. but i doubt they will cos its quite significant to their storyline... well its the beginning of their love line.. so excited.. anywho.. really enjoy the beginning of their story.. their so funny together.. love it how Charmaine also tricks Raymond... but also very excited about when they start going out.... wohoo!! cant wait..
sehseh
Actually, CCTV are not the only one cutting out scenes. Some scenes shown in CCTV version were cut by TVB as well. For example in episode 7, Ray offered to escort Charmaine back to her apartment but she said no.

CCTV have this scenes, while TVB don't. Which I think TVB shouldn't cut because moving to the next scene look very abrupt.
dawnlight
oh, somehow I thought it's in ep 9 heehee, my bad. If it's in ep 11 then we have to wait until next week. I hope TVB show the whole long kissing scene on the tram. To CCTV credit they did show Charray's heads coming together about to embrace in a romantic kiss but then they cut it off. So CCTV assumed that the viewers understood that they kiss romantically. But they should know that we want to see the actual kiss!

Waiting to see more Charray!
myhelen
Dawnlight, Sorry to shatter your dream again, but I don't think there will be a Las Vegas wedding scene as in a scene in a chapel. The crew didn't go to Las Vegas and we have never heard of another wedding scene or seen pictures of it. I think they have used the hotel room scene to show that they have married loh.

I tend to dream in my own Charray world too...I am actually hoping for Charray romantic rumours and I was so happy to see them dressed in "lovers outfit" during the interview or to see pictures of them chatting happily. But I suppose I am more cautious than you so I keep remind myself not to get to carried away.

[spoiler]I think TVB will keep the passionate kissing scene on the tram because it is a highly promoted scene and TVB is more open to these type of passionate kiss.

Sehseh, I know, the way TVB edited the car scene is so abrupt. The transition is really sudden. I am surprised at how rough this is, TVB ususally does a better editing job. So why cut it and make it so lousy leh? It's only about 30-sec long, how much damaage could this get? *sign and shake my head.[/spoiler]
sehseh
Missing scene in CCTV version:



Don't know if TVB version have this scene or not...
myhelen
Found 2 Charray DOL MVs:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/EsqE1U5Iruk
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/k-KhonpdHvM

Credits to 叶雪涛 from Baidu Charmaine bar
bittersweet05
WOW! Everyone is so active! Charray will be so proud if they ever saw this! laugh.gif I loved that scene where Ray fights off those muggers, protecting his dear Charmie...so manly! tongue.gif Actually, i love every Charray scene 'cause they're just too adorable! infatuated.gif I just wish Ray and Charm would spark some couple rumors in real life! (when i heard Ron and Charmaine's rumors i was like "WHAT?!" shocked.gif RON NG but not RAY? If only it was Ray...i would've been going ga-ga! 1.gif )

[spoiler]I haven't had the time to download the Canto episodes of DOL. So...how is it everyone? Is it better than CCTV's? I sure hope so...we finally get to hear their own real, sexy voices instead of the weird dubbing. 13.gif I just hope they didn't cut out as much Charray scenes!

Oh, and i just updated my fanfic, for those who are interested. Sorry for the lack of updates! I've been pretty distracted with my part time job, volunteer work, and on top of all that, reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollow! thumbsup.gif

I'm going away to my cottage tomorrow, so i probably won't be able to come online all of next week. But i know everyone else will be super active and chat their heads off about our fave couple! 57.gif

Ciao everyone! <3[/spoiler]
dawnlight
aww myhelen, it's okay, my dream is not shatter yet lols I know that they didn't film in Las Vegas so wasn't expecting any scene of Charray in the actual Las Vegas. But maybe they might fake the scene in the chapel. To be specific though, what I really want to see is Charray in the hotel room after they are married. I felt that that scene was too short. I hope for a kiss or something. It's the first time they are that intimate mah, should show something special wink.gif

I want to see the multiple kissin scene too. I would be giggling so hard seeing Ray playfully kiss Charm heehee Please TVB, we already seen the taxi version, let us see the multiple kisses version please!!

kingdom_riku, oh okay. I'll go back to that page and see what you mean.

oh dear sehseh, how and where did you get that sweet picture of Charray? At what point in the story was that do you know? I want to see Charray dance man!! TVB, I beg you again, please include that scene please!!

bittersweet05, yeah, I know right? Ron and Charm rumors are ridiculous right? I don't know what those HK reporters were thinking! It should be Charray!!!
yay, you updated! Finally going to know how Charm will react to the confessions! heehee Have fun at your cottage!
dawnlight
QUOTE(kingdom_riku @ Jul 26 2007 10 06 AM) [snapback]4224820[/snapback]
dawnlight
no i don't mean this archive , this is de second archive (part 2)
i mean the first archive of charray on page 37.


hmm, I went back to the archive page 37 but didn't see any picture of that scene you were talking about, with Ray in stripe shirt and Charm in jacket hugging. You sure you got the right page?
Ida101
just watched the trailer on the TVB site for the next ep for DOL which is ep 11.. the ep with the kissing on the tram.. the trailer shows that bit a little.. like a split second.. but at least we know its not going to be cut like in the CCTV version.. cant wait to watch that bit.. and when they start going out... too excited!!
dawnlight
heehee kingdom_riku, look like Jupi already answered your question. I remeber seeing that scene too. I think that's the scene where I mistaken that Charray kiss. Charm was drunk right? So they just hug.

Thanks Ida101 for telling us! I'm hoping TVB won't cut out that romantic kissing scene too and hope it's not too short and abrupt. We have to wait until next week to see the actual ep 11 though. Hopefully it'll be worth the wait lah
dawnlight
I just thought of another similarity between Charray!

1) both are contracted artists of TVB
2) both like Chow Yuan Fat
3) both like Japanese food
4) both love kids
5) both starred in Yummy Yummy, LWOLAP, and DOL, and more to come
6) They both have similar sunglasses!
7) Uses the same make-up mirror thingy.
8) Are both mature and intelligent people .
9) Loves to joke and laugh.
10) Loves to act in dramas and those inspirational series.
11) Both have won TVB most favourite character awards
12) Both don't mind the age of their partner (Raymond doesn't care if his gf is older than he is and Charmaine doesn't mind if her bf is younger)
13) Their favorite animal is dog!
14) both won the best actress/actor award in astro in the year 2006
15)both won the best actor/actress in AAA during 2006
16) both have a huge fanbase in China (raymondforest.com and shehsheh.com)
17) They both can sing(and they're good at it).
18) Are in very good contact with their family.
19) They both prefer to film modern series.
20) Raymond thought of Charmaine as "little girl" (he even added "She is still a little girl") and Charmaine thought of Raymond as "little boy"
21) They both describe each other as hardworking and professional
22) They both like Japanese cartoon cat (Raymond likes Ding Dong, the mechanical cat, and Charmaine likes Hello Kitty)
23) both like to sing
24) they both drive marcedes-Benz (not the same kind of brand)
25) They both like to wave their hand when say "No"
26) onte more thing they both like to use their hands when sing Happy b-day in the qq interview u could see that ray did that and in E-buzz when charm and moses was the guest they interviews them and charm did the same thing when they was talking about the wrong celebration for moses
27) Both are kids at heart!
28) Both have habit of pushing their glasses up using their middle fingers
29) Both described as gracious. Raymond being gentlemanly and saying "I'm OK with it" whenever they go out for food and Charmaine going anywhere with you eventhough she's not feeling like it.
30) Both of them definitely really rich
31) Witty people! Raymond with his snake-bitten comment and Charmaine's countless comments that rendered reporters speechless
32) Both definitely has a lot of rumours on being the playgirl/playboy type.
33) Their interviews are always enlightening. I get inspired when I read Charmaine and/or Raymond's interviews and their opinions on life as well as their past experiences.
34) both of them have thought about to go off screne ( quiting from the industry)
35) both of them have study overseas
36) Good at acting
37) Both use multiple phones
38) both have a secret sign that just they two know of
39) both cover their mouth when they laugh
40) both show their pearly whites when they smile
41) TVB wants to promote both in mainland market!
42) Both are talking about the same kissing scene from DOL
43) Charm have never kiss a male like she did in DOL in reallife, and ray have never been kiss like that in reallife
44) Charray often wear matching outfits (coincidental or not? )
45) Both prefer their love partner to be more traditional Chinese (not westernize)
46) Both want to focus on their career and just want to date when they have time

47) Both have acted in series where their characters died only twice; one time in ancient era and one time in modern era: Charm (ancient: Strike at Heart and modern: Seven Sisters) and Ray (ancient: Twins of Brother and modern: Heart of Greed)

if I'm not mistaken, that is true isn't it? I can't think of any other series where Charray's characters die.
Jupi
[spoiler]Oh NO the TVB version have cut out one more charray scene =( the part after charm was locked in the toilet by myolie (the part when charray was on teh coffe shop)[/spoiler]

dawnlight
Nope that pics was from the part when charm and ray come home after the hospital (when daimen get hit by charms car) and ray was so unhappy that he cried so hard. hahaha yeah your new point is great and it's true ^^

[spoiler]Ida101
Thanks ida for telling us that the scene is not cut off, I can't wait for it either but I must I mean eps 11 is on monday so it's two days left[/spoiler]
dawnlight
QUOTE(Jupi @ Jul 27 2007 9 32 PM) [snapback]4231647[/snapback]
Oh NO the TVB version have cut out one more charray scene =( the part after charm was locked in the toilet by myolie (the part when charray was on teh coffe shop)

dawnlight
Nope that pics was from the part when charm and ray come home after the hospital (when daimen get hit by charms car) and ray was so unhappy that he cried so hard. hahaha yeah your new point is great and it's true ^^


What?! Dumb TVB! They cut yet another charray scene? I wonder what they are planning to do with the two extra episodes? So far I haven't seen or heard of extra Charray scenes! They keep cutting their scenes!! This make me mad again. I guess I'll have to wait for ep 11 to watch the Charray kissing scene to make it up.

Oh it seems I"m mistaken again. I better refresh my memory by watching those Charray clips again.

about the list, lets add on and see if we can reach 100 similarities okay?
ILLT
yo sup er 1, sry i have been so inactive lately since i didn't have internet all this time, but i do now as i got dial up lol still in HK... arg... lol

i've only seen like 2 episodes of DOL or so, so far cuz i left for japan when it started but i was lucky to have seen the 1st Charray scene in the show when ray n Charm met in the lobby of sum company thing, Charm was so evil lying to ray like that lol but cute how they met.

i've haven't the energy to read so many pages n posts by ya'll as we on page... wot! 19?! lol that was real fast, DOL really gave this thread a huge boost of activity in har biggrin.gif! w00t Charray

i did read sum posts as i c they have cut out another Charray secen?! how could dem TVB ppl do that, don't they go on the computer?! look at the Charray fan's galore lol

but atleast there r still other famous scenes to look for in DOL, e.g. the tram scene mon! w00t! can't wait to watch it biggrin.gif!

can't tink of n ting to write right now so sum otha time smile.gif
dawnlight
I just skimmed through ep 10 and indeed they did cut the long scene of Charray in the coffee shop after Bing Yi locked Charm in the bathroom. n_thumbdown.gif That whole scene in long too, several minutes, not seconds that they cut! How dare they!

By the way, anyone who watched that scene, can you translate or summarize what all did Charray talked about. I don't understand what they were saying. I want to know if that scene is important or something and why TVB cut that scene! Thanks!
Jupi
dawnlight
That part was not so importent it just that charm ask ray if myolie are carzy or something, and she wanted ray to buy apartment from her if he wonted her to be hapy again. hope this will help u wink.gif
dawnlight
QUOTE(Jupi @ Jul 28 2007 10 02 PM) [snapback]4236001[/snapback]
dawnlight
That part was not so importent it just that charm ask ray if myolie are carzy or something, and she wanted ray to buy apartment from her if he wonted her to be hapy again. hope this will help u wink.gif



oh okay, thanks Jupi. I thought the scene was sweet though even though what they said wasn't very important to the plot. I think every Charray scenes are sweet lols

TVB should have kept that scene (and the car scene too) anyway because Charray have so few scene as I see it. I want to see more Charray! I feel like I can't wait until Monday to see the kiss weeping.gif
WeiGirl93
dawnlight
No they've both have died three times. Charmaine also died in Perish in the Name of Love and Ray died in The Lethal Weapons of Love and Passion.
Jupi
No they did not. I thought that part was kinda funny. So far i think Tvb has been cutting out parts instead of adding more. They better have a lot of charray part in the comming episodes.
[spoiler]Bittersweet05
Hope you have fun at your cottage. I can't wait til you get back I want to see how Ray tells Charmaine that he likes her.[/spoiler]
dawnlight
QUOTE(WeiGirl93 @ Jul 29 2007 1 49 AM) [snapback]4236432[/snapback]
dawnlight
No they've both have died three times. Charmaine also died in Perish in the Name of Love and Ray died in The Lethal Weapons of Love and Passion.



uhm I think in PITNOL Charm and Steven's deaths were fake. If I remember correctly, in the end Charm and Steven were shown a happy ending as they manage a noodle stall and Charm was pregnant.
And I'm positively sure that Ray didn't die in LWOLAP heehee I just recently rewatched it and it's one of my very favorite series. The ending was so sweet with prince Ray and his bride Charm riding horses together on the beautiful Mongolian field infatuated.gif

So Charray only died in series twice, I conclude tongue.gif

I think the same as you too, that TVB seems to be cutting more Charray scenes instead of cutting. Boo them! n_thumbdown.gif
dawnlight
Hey guys, I just have a great idea. Wouldn't it be great if TVB do a sequel to Angels of Mission? Charm could reprise her role as the tough, @ss kickng Ah Fa. I really like this character! She is so funny and tough but sensitive all together! Then Ray can be casted as a bad boy. He can be the son to a mafia boss or something. In AOM, Charm had to go undercover, now in the sequel, Ray, the badboy, could go undercover as a cop to help his evil-doer father. He would be assign to Charm's unit and meet her (not CTU though, her old unit). Because the work of CTU is so few in this peace time, Charm went back part time to help her old unit and meet Ray. They would be fire and water at first but then Ray fell for Charm. Charm is attracted to the mysterious badboy Ray too. Because Ray loves Charm so much, he decided to go against his father. But then Stephen Au came back and he start to investigate Ray. Then Charm misunderstood that Ray was using her this whole time. Ray's father came down on him and numerous conflicts insue!

Is that a good idea? TVB should make this series! I would totally support it 100% yeah!
myhelen
Found some beautiful Charray DOL artwork here:
http://bbs.good-taste.cn/read.php?tid-3997...ad--page-3.html

BTW, for those who can read Chinese, the above site is really worth visiting. They have a lot of Charray lovers and one of the fan fic of Fung and Bong in DOL is just wonderful!!!!
dawnlight
thanks for the link myhelen. Those are indeed nice. I tried clicking to the other pages but it made me log in. I can't read Chinese wahh weeping.gif

When is Charm coming back to HK? I miss her! And when is Ray's vacation? Can someone remind me please?
Jupi
dawnlight
Yeah that part wasn't so importent so I think is't ok that they cut it off but of course I would be more happier if they didn't, anyway I got the news that TVB didn't cut the dancing part and they even chatted about sex or something hahaha =) really want to watch that part.
hm.. I don't know really when charm will be back, I didn't even know that her vacation have start =P I think she have other jobs too to attend so I think she steel are in HK or mainland but her vacation end in the end of agu. if I haven't remember wrong.
And rays vacation have already ended.

WeiGirl93
Don't worry I'm sure that TVB will add more charray scene, they didn't cut of the dancing part wink.gif so u can look forward to it. and I know that TVB did add charms parts.
dawnlight
hmm, I thought Charm is already on vacation. I read somewhere that she flew to Hawaii earlier. I haven't seen her news recently and miss her so much!
So Ray already took his vacation? That was short! Do you guys think he was in Hawaii during that time too? wink.gif I keep hoping that Charray will get marry someday in Hawaii and I could be there to witness the whole happy nuptual heehee
Jupi
dawnlight
as I said earlier I don't know really if charms vacation have start or not I haven't heard anything about her filming for silver lip is finish. Well ray did have a loger vacation if u have forgot about it he did mention is when he had that interview with charm wink.gif and cham even said u have so long vacation it's not fair something like that wink.gif well I don't know if he went to hawaii or not but u can ask rays fans maybe they can answer that question. I haven't update my news about them so I don't really know what they are doing but I know that ray is going to film a new ancinet serie maybe he is filming it right now =P so he can't have a vacatio.
Ida101
just browsing around on the net and came across this.. someone loaded up the kissing scene.. the tram kissing scene that is...

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/VloBEVEYoCE/

very sweet... i dont think its the whole scene.. well im not sure.. but its just a short snippet.. have to watch the full ep to see the whole bit... very excited!!!
sehseh
QUOTE(Ida101 @ Jul 30 2007 12 53 AM) [snapback]4239760[/snapback]
just browsing around on the net and came across this.. someone loaded up the kissing scene.. the tram kissing scene that is...

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/VloBEVEYoCE/

very sweet... i dont think its the whole scene.. well im not sure.. but its just a short snippet.. have to watch the full ep to see the whole bit... very excited!!!


I think that is the whole scene... hopefully TVB version will not cut it.

Anyway, does anyone have the clip where Charmaine complained to Ray abt Myolie? After she was locked in the washroom?
myhelen
I think the kissing scene posted on toudou should be the whole scene. TVB will not cut it, in fact, they have greatly promoted this scene. Yup, Monday 9:30 pm loh. There is a download address of this scene (Mandarin though) at shehsheh.com. I am assuming all of us would rather have the Cantonese version, right? So, I won't bother to upload or post the llink here loh.

Sehseh, I have the scene where Charm complained to Ray about Myolie locking her up in the toliet. However, it is the whole Charmaine clip for that episode and I don't know how to extract jsut that scene. You can actually find it at shehsheh.com. http://www.shehsheh.com/bbs/viewthread.php...;extra=page%3D1
Just look for the clip for epi 8-10. If you have trouble, let me know and I can upload it for you. I was told that that scene was cut out in the TVB version. So diappointing.........
dawnlight
Jupi, thanks for your reply. It was just my wishful thinking that both Charray were in Hawaii together as I want to see them getting marry there heehee
yeah, I think Ray is too busy for a vacation as he is filming a new series and working on his album.
Speaking of album, I just thought of another reason why Ray didn't ask Charm to be in the MV, not that he haven't thought to. It's because he know Charm's schedule is tight and busy filming SLST so he doesn't want Charm to exhaust herself. Also, he and Bernice have the same manager, so the manager probably coerce Ray to ask Bernice to promote her too. Since Ray know he won't have intimate scene with the female lead, so he agree. Plus, when he ask Charm to be in his MV later, people won't make such a big deal about it heehee

Ida101, thank you for that clip!! It's in the mandarin version? Why didn't CCTV put it in when they have dubbed that scene already?! Where did the person found the clip anyway? kudos to them!

sehseh, I have that segment too if you want reuploading. smile.gif Also, do you know if Charm is in Hawaii right now? and when will she be back? I miss her! Thank you!

myhelen, is the download clip the same as what Ida101 put up? Yes you are right! I rather have the Cantonese version! I hope TVB will include that scene. They have been promoting that Charm kiss Ray many times but not really the intimate kiss scene so I'm a little worry since TVB have been disappointing me.
tdrama*addict
hey, was just wondering if anyone here can let me know if possible around how many KISS scenes will theere be in DOL between CHARRAY?? hehe biggrin.gif

personally i'm a very big fan of charmaine, and then after watchin her with raymond in LWOLAP, i couldn't but fall in love this couple!! they have such good chemistry together!! i just watched up to episode 8 right now for hk version of DOL, n im loving this couple!! they're soo cutee, especially how raymond teases char about persuing her!! hehe biggrin.gif..so cute!! im really lookin forward to when they r actually together in the series..hope its soonN!! i cant waittt until i see their first kiss scene in DOL biggrin.gif
heyblu
in episode 11 there should be the load of kissing on the tram. wow!!! i am so happy that there are more CHARRAY fans now cuz now theres 20 pages. the last time i checked its was only 18 pages. smile.gif
i thought it was kinda aww cute how in one scene when ray and charmaine were eating lunch or something ray said "we match each other so wel. do u think there will be a chance that we will..." i loved that scene.
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