Yummyfan535: THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!!

Jupi: No prob. AHHHHH! I just finished downloading and watching both clips and am in total Charray heaven! (lol i don't think i'll be able to sleep tonight) They were so cute and funny in 15/16; very funny how they both got the first question wrong and both were so embarrased! So cute! And Charm kept touching Ray's arm throughout the game and they both kept looking at each other...ahahhaha i think i'm gonna faint! And episode 47 was just tooo sweet! Love how Pong is willing to support Fung despite the awkward situation between Fung and his family. Esp. that scene with Pong and Damien and Damien was like "What if one day we find out that Bill's (Joe Ma) intentions were good?" and Pong grabbed onto Damien's shoulders and said confidently but strongly, "Then i will accept all responsibilities." So powerful. Shows how much he loves and trusts Fung. <---tears of happiness BTW, is it just be, or does the forum seem less and less active lately? Where is everyone???

kingdom_riku: Hi! LOL i hope so too...i mean i don't think FAS is that original anyway...sorta reminds me (and keep in mind that i haven't watched the series yet) of Men in Pain (like the idea)? And i don't know why people keep saying DOL's ratings are only "average". I mean they are doing pretty good, most weeks' ratings are all at least 30pts. I guess maybe because it's such a grand production and all the hype and media made people have such high expectations for the series that it just raised the bar for the show. But i just KNOW DOL will beat FAS & HOG! I have faith!

bittersweet05
hahaha a totaly understand what u mean, charray always are sweet with each other. That is y I love to watch them in game showes or interview b/c u really can see how comfrtable they are together. Hm.. it was long time ago since I re-watch 15/16 so i can't remember all the touching and looking scene but when I ahve time I will deffenetly re-watch it ^^
yeah I love that eps too. or I maybe should say that I love most of the eps with charray but eps 47 is really sweet and I love how supportive ray is. U really can see that he loves her so much and i think what charm said was also sweet, "even if I can't truly accept your family but I won't let any one hurt them either" that was soo touching. U really can see that both of them really love eachother.
Well this thread have been less active this days don't know y, maybe b/c most of them starting school so don't have time. my school starts soon too so I won't have that much time either.
can't wait till this friday b7c then the sweet charray scene in eps 30 will be out in the canto version

Hi. I just wanted to stop by to tell you that I won't be on for a while because i'm going back to the US tomorrow. and right when i get back i'm moving stuff to my new house and school would've had already started. So i'm ganna be really busy.
bittersweet05
Thanks for the translation. IT's so sweet of what he wrote in his blog. if only it was really ray who was writing it. Plus l love your Fanfic.
Jupi
O i've seen the QQ interview but it was like a long time ago. But i was looking through some of the files on my cousins computer(who's a Ray fan but thinks Charray Looks great together) and she had that QQ interveiw so i watched it with the translation Myhelen made back in page 4. which is really helpful.
Well i need to leave so yea. Good bye

Jupi: Hahah! I was all hyped up from all the Charray-ness and couldn't go to sleep until like 3 in the morning. Even though i loved them in 15/16, i loved them the MOST in the QQ interview. For me, that was just the ultimate does of Charray, with matching outfits and all. (believe me, i was high for like two days after watching it!)
Aiyaaa....school is starting soon! NOOOOOOOO! LOL yeah, school for me starts in about two weeks and once it starts i too will probably disappear from this forum. (but my love for Charray shall live on in my heart! :dede: ) Just can't believe summer is almost over...feeling kinda nostalgic now... What sweet Charray scene? Are you talking about the one where they're walking on that ridge after Ray won the competition that Charm's store set up? Hahah too many sweet Charray moments! (lol, take that Rayolie fans! )

WeiGirl93: You're very welcome! Yeah i know what you mean...if only Pong was real, i would totally fall in love with him. So sweet, supportive, caring, romantic, funny....THE perfect guy. Can't wait to read his blog entry when he decides to propose to Charm! Bet it's gonna be another sugary sweet entry! And thanks for reading my fanfic! (hope you enjoyed it too!) Sorry for the lack of updates...aiii...hopefully i can finish it before school starts!

Yay! I just discovered how to make animated avatars. I know that a lot of members wanted Charray avvies. When i have time, i'll be happy to make a couple for those who want one. (bear in mind i'm just noob though so it might not be as nice as the pros! )

WeiGirl93
Well great to know that u had the chance to re-watch the QQ interview. well I re-watched it as well b/c u guys mention it and it was great I showed it for my sister but she don't understand mandarin so she was nbot intrested =(
Yeah nice to know that your cousin think they are great together, maybe she is not a charray fans at least she like to watch them as a couple ^^

bittersweet05
haha well don't know what to say, I'm always up to 3 or 4 in the morning maybe b/c I'm searching for charray stuff and charms stuff I totaly agree with u the 15/16 was a good one of this couple but the QQ interview is the best. I have it on all of my computers so i can watch it where ever I'm ^^ ( I study in another city so have more then one pc)
Well school always go first but we can be active during the weekends and maybe the other fans will be active during the week, well we will see but I'm sure that thsi thread will not "die" there are alot of charray supporters out there
yeah is that charray scene i mean in eps 30, I just love that part i have re-watch it over and over again, always before i go to sleep so I really can't wait till the canto version ^^
Charray!!!!

YummyFan535
thanks for putting the dl link up. well i wonder too y there are less charray supporters here but I think most of them have school so they don't have time to be active like before. but we can always make this thread active
What is your fave scene of charray in DOL?

Well b/c there are less charray news and stuff so this may u guys happy. it's the mainland dvd version of DOL so there are parts which we haven't seen before

those that have watch the CCTV version watch this those who won't to spoil don't watch this clip.
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/w1juk6KDhKM/

Jupi: LOL same here! During the entire summer i've always been up late into the wee hours, giggling at cute Charray pics/watching and then re-watching Charray clips. I LOVE that scene too! So cutee! Haha Ray was like "So i won the competition and saved the event, so how will you "repay" me?" and Charm just gave him a short peck and Ray was like "That's it? Shouldn't you offer to marry me and be with me forever?" And that kiss at the end is SOOOOOOOO cute!!! IMO i think that was the cutest kiss in DOL, even though it wasn't as long or as "fierce" as the one on the tram they were just OOZING with happiness. Makes me sad to think that in only a few more episodes everything will start to go downhill....

OOHHHH! Did you guys hear that Charmaine got nominated for Best Actress from the International Emmys?! I hope she wins! Charm totally deserves the recognition! Just wished that it was for her role in DOL instead of DOP (i never watched DOP...haha no Charray!) and that Ray was also nominated (Bobby got nominated for Best Actor for his role in Dicey Business! Rooting for him too!) But get this...CHARMAINE IS COMING TO TORONTO!!! OMG! She's coming to sing in some concert thing in with Myolie and Kevin...no Ray though. BUt yeah, fans here are already planning a party with Tina (Charm's manager) for Charm when she comes at the end of October! *Bittersweet falls down unconscious from being so excited that she might get to meet Charm in person*

hey! i just watched epi 30 in cantonese it was awesome

well can someone translate this? found it on Charmaine's Blog.

八月二十三日：近來
不知是不是臨近好日子呢，近來籌備婚事的人好像特別多，常常有新人來購買床上用品。我在店裡總是忙得不可開交，倒是忙得快樂的。看見他/她們臉上掛著幸福的笑容，我就想起振邦。這陣子我們各有各忙，見面的時間不多，不過相處的時候總是非常愉快。即使不能見面，我內心仍會滿載踏實的感覺。可能因為有安全感，我很久沒有再造惡夢了，每晚都能睡得安穩。

媽媽離開我已經一年多了。如果沒有振邦，我想我不會復原得這麼快。媽媽，我仍然常常想念妳，不過我已經不會落淚了。我知道妳最喜歡看見我的笑容，我現在經常都笑，妳看見嗎？

AhSi: OOohhhh was episode 30 sweeet? LOL i haven't watched it yet, but Jupi said it contained that really sweet Charray scene after Ray won the competition! Anyway, i've translated the latest blog entry from Sau Fung's blog that you posted:

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August 23rd: Recently
Maybe it's because a "lucky day" is nearing, but recently i've noticed a lot of people getting married. Recently a lot of newlyweds have come to the store to buy bedroom products and i've become soooo busy. But happy busy because i get to see the dazzling smiles on each of their faces, causing me to think of Zhen Pong. Lately we've both been so busy separately that spending time together has become rare and short, but still very happy. Even though we may not see each other physically, in my heart i have this warm secure feeling. Maybe it's because of the feeling of security, i haven't had a nightmare in a long time, each night being able to sleep peacefully.

Mother has left me for over a year now. If it wasn't for Zhen Pong, i don't think i would've healed that fast. Mommy, i still think of you daily, but i don't shed tears anymore. I know you like to see me smile and i've been smiling a lot lately, can you see?

八月二å??三日：近來
�知是�是臨近好日�呢，近來籌備婚事的人好�特別多，常常有新人來購買床上用�。我在店裡總是忙得��開交，倒是忙得快樂的。看見他/她們臉上掛著幸�的笑容，我就想起振邦。這陣�我們�有�忙，見�的時間�多，��相處的時候總是�常愉快。�使�能見�，我內心�會滿載�實的感覺。�能因為有安全感，我很久沒有�造惡夢了，�晚都能�得安穩。

媽媽離開我已經一年多了。如果沒有振邦，我想我�會復原得這麼快。媽媽，我�然常常想念妳，��我已經�會�淚了。我知�妳最喜歡看見我的笑容，我�在經常都笑，妳看見嗎？
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Jupi: Thanks for posting that clip. It was so cute when Ray and Tobey were talking to the "baby" and Ray kept poking Charm's belly saying "I'm your daddy. Don't forget!" Awwww....

bittersweet05 thanks for the translation i wish i could give you the link for epi 30 but i cant post links yet lol

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/PVYhiX_XQw0/

this is a much watch clip... the proposal scene with Ray's multiple kisses with Charmaine... ahhh its sooo sweet and cute!!! i just can't get over how great they are.. and its really different to the CCTV version... and obviously by adding this clip in the TVB version is way better!!! Charray all the way!!!

bittersweet05
well I think both of us have been poisoned of charray, we can stay up all night long for this lovely couple I really love the fact that there are more and more charray fans after DOL have aired and many new MV's
hahaha yeah that part was really cute, and I love they way he perpose to her maybe not the romantic way with roses and stuff, but I think it was cute^^
Thanks for the translations of fungs blog, I just love this blog thing that tvb have made up, this posted by the characters are just too good and u can really feel what they think and so on ^^
Yeah I know that she got nominated and I'm soo happy for charm to get the nomination and I really hope she will get the award. Well are u over 19? if then u can go to the casino to meet charm and hear her sing in live that will be awesome but too bad that I'm not from america =(
U must watch the clip Ida posted it's a great one, totaly different from the mandarin version. I think this is soo funny to know that they have filmed two versions of this scene how they get married and stuff.. ah!!! I can't wait to watch this eps in canto!!!!

Ida101
I think I'm going to faint, omg!!! that was the sweetest u made my day charray are just too good,I'm soooo happy to know that TVB didn't cut that part off and I was really suprice that the CCTV version and TVB version was so different. Hope for more scenes of charray that was not showened in the CCTV version.. charray is the BEST!!!

just finished watching up to ep33... and its soooo sad.. i was full crying!! and i realised how different the TVB and CCTV version are.. in the TVB version Charmaine and Raymond don't get married in Las Vegas.. so technically they get married only once....

watching the canto version is sooo much better and i must say i'm so impressed with Charmaine and Raymond's acting.. he went soo crazy.. i think this is the first time I've seen Raymond heart broken in a series.. (i would like to think its with the help of Charmaine) and Charmaine.. what can i say.. i actually really enjoyed the bits where she left Raymond (not cos she left him.. but the acting).. i really feel for these two.. its just so sad seeing them split apart.. but now just have to wait till Charmaine comes back for revenge..(which i think is an awesome bit) then get back together.. the scene where Raymond tells Charmaine to stab and kill him and when he chasers after her telling her he's sorry... my fav bits!!!! Charray all the way!!!

Ida101
ah!!! u are driving me carazy, I want to watch it too, so it's in eps 33 where they have the marrige scene? if then it's different from the CCTV version. even if it's some kind of spolier u have write I really enjoy it b/c now I want to watch it even more. And I totaly agree with u that ray was awesome when he cried that hard, I was so amazed when I saw his performance in the CCTV version and I really can't wait till the TVB version I want to hear his voice expresions. Well of course ray is a good actor and portrays all his character well, but I trylou believe that it's charm that have make him so in this character that he can act so heartbroken.
well I can't wait for the revange either I mean it will be so cool and even if everyone said that charm was so evil and stuff I really enjoy her character. oh I can't wait for more charray scene in DOL and hope that tvb will make more charray scene that we never have seen like the eps 30. I must wait till next week before I can watch eps 33, I wonder if I can survive this week.

something off topic when are u going to update you fanfic tower? I just can't wait till your next chapter. really want to know kev will do and I really hope there will be more sweet times with charray moments ^^

Aiyaaa! Just when i thought Pong couldn't get any more sickly sweet! LOL, here's his latest blog entry after he proposed to Charm....so so sweet! (&kinda cheesy too lol)

August 24th: Marry Me
Actually, i've wanted you to marry me for a long time. Quite awhile back i've already realized that you were 'the one' for me. In this world, you're the only one that truly understands me. only you are the one that i would want to spend the rest of my life with. But all this time i didn't propose because i know that you haven't fully recovered yet. I wanted to "heal" you first, so you can once again, become that happy, settled girl, feeling nothing but happy and excitement to become my bride.

You once said that you do not believe there is good men in the world, none of them are reliable. I know that what i've done has helped you abolish that idea. I also know that in the future, everything that i do will help you realize that there is such thing as a perfect family. Because by then, everything that you have will prove that i'm right. Truthfully speaking, i've always been a person with ambitions. To give you happiness, in my opinion, is an extremely important task, its importance is not any smaller than managing an entire car plant. However, i've long since learned the meaning of 'responsibility'. I will keep my words.

八月二十四日：嫁給我
其實我早就想迎娶妳。很久以前，我就知道妳是我要尋找的人。在這世上，就惟獨妳，懂得我的所有，可以跟我心靈相通；也惟獨妳，會叫我希望跟一個人廝守終老。我一直沒有向妳求婚，是因為我知道妳還沒有從傷痛中復原。我想先把妳醫好，讓妳成為一個快樂而安穩的女孩，以喜悅的心情做我的妻子。

妳曾講過不相信世上有好男人，沒有男人值得信賴。我知道過去我所做的已令這些信念慢慢消失。我更知道將來我所做的會叫妳相信，這個世上真的有美滿的婚姻與家庭，因為那時妳所擁有的會證明這一切。厚顏地講，我從來都是個愛做大事的人。讓妳幸福，對我來說，也是一件天大的事情，其重量不比打造一所車廠輕。不過我早就學懂了承擔，講出來的我必然做得到。
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Ida101: OMG thank youuuuu sooooo much for posting that clip! I'm truly in Charray heaven right now! Awwww....SO SWEET! LOL, i love how Ray was like "I don't care. If you don't say 'yes' i'm going to keep on kissing you till morning." (haha i'm sure us Charray fans would like THAT! ) I like this version a lot better than the CCTV one; so much cuter. Thanks again! (i haven't watched ep 33 yet but i can't wait to watch their superb acting and of course Ray going crazy. LOL, it sounds weird and all, but it shows how much he really loves Sau Fung/Charm)

Jupi: I totally agree with you. The blog idea is like the next best idea that TVB has had since pairing up Charm and Ray! :dede: It really fills in the gaps that the show itself has left, since it's such a grand series with so many leads, it's really hard to truly and completely develop each and single subplot/storyline due to the limited screentime (lol yes 60 episodes is not enough). And these blog entries help to fill in those gaps and really allow the audience to truly "get inside their heads" and experience what these characters are feeling and thinking, making them come alive before our eyes. LOL i'm sooooo crazy right now after watching the clip Ida101 posted. But also kinda sad 'cause everything is gonna start going downhill from now on. LOL i guess i'm half crazy half sad? (like this? --> / )

AhSi: No problem at all! LOL i'm actually still waiting for the dvds so i'm just downloading bits and parts of Charray and trying to not TOTALLY spoil it.

I just finished downloading episode 30, and OMG, Charray are so cute in it My heart was melting when they were kissing Haha, and I was like.. when Raymond planted those kisses on Charmaine. I was hoping he would plant more kisses though Episode 30 is a must-watch for Charray fans, well except for the ending, where Charmaine heard what Gigi and Damien said Charray are almost breaking up And then we have to wait till episode 43 to see them together again, such a long wait..

Bittersweet: Thanks for the translation. It's so sweet After Charm leaves Ray, it's time to read some sad entry's from Pong

Oh yea, about the news that Charmaine is coming to Toronto, I'm so happy! I may get the chance to see her, it's just I can't get into Casino Rama... But the party or fan gathering or whatever it's called... I heard it wasn't at Casino Rama, so I think I'll go.. it's a shame, Raymond isn't gonna be there, cause if he was going to be there, I'm so going to sneak into Casino Rama

I hope Charray will be featured in the same month for the 2008 TVB Calender, if they are going to be featured in the same month, I'm so going to buy one and hang it up in my room, and look at it for the whole day

wow, it seems like I haven't been here in so long. Glad you guys are so actively supporting Charray! I'm still supporting this lovely couple too but unfortunately school started for me
I was so busy with organizational meetings and club gatherings and then homework already the first week of school. I'm actually in the newspaper room right now suppose to be doing research but just can't resist visiting here and catching up with you guys lols

So TVB included the multiple kisses scene?! yes yes yes! I am so happy! Can't wait to see the whole ep 30! I saw the clip that Ida101 put up and it was so sweet! I'm glad TVB change the plot a little to have Charray not marry in Las Vegas, but I still miss that scene where they dance hug each other in the hotel room But that multiple kiss scene totally made up for it! I counted Ray kisses Charm 4 times total. I was hoping for more than that lolz. Charm has kissed him about 11 times in the tram scenes so Ray still owes her like 7 times heeheehee.

And CONGRATULATIONS to Charmaine for being a finalist nominee for the International Emmy!! I'm so happy for her! I bet Ray is so very very happy for his Charm also I hope she wins, oh and Bobby also, he's so great! Then those terrible haters and just crawl into their hole, eat their own words and cry heeheehee, I am so mean right? but not as mean like those unreasonable haters.

I also hope Charray will be feature in the 2008 calendar together too! That would be so great! I read that Charm is heading to Taiwan for photo shoot of the calendar, I wonder if Ray will go too. I hope so. The perfect pair feature together is the best!

hey just wanted to stop by. I'm so tired after being on the plane for 13 hours. and in the car for like 8 hours. I hust couldn't wait to get on and read some Charray Updates. The Kissing part is in the TVB version!!! YAY!!!! I want to watch it but i need to install flashplayer on this computer I'm using. Well i'm going to bedd. really sleepy

bittersweet05
thanks for the transation form pongs blog. well I think it was really sweet what he write and it's so true that he have make fung change her mind about there are no good guys in this world
Well I agree with u the blog is the second smartes thing TVB have done. I can't believe it but I have re-watch the porpose scene 5 times did it last night. well they are just too cute. my feelings is also very mixed up now b/c soon they will separate (don't want it to happen)
I just love the part where charray get in to the resturant room and they told the others that they will get married and I think the hugging in that part was soo sweet I think I will make a avatar or a signature of that screne they are just too cute and charm really seems to be very happy and confident in rays embrace ^^ did u guys notice that ray had his flu? his voice was totaly different in that part
both charray have made a great job in this serie and I really can feel that their love for each other grow every single minute just love charray!!!

YummyFan535
I totaly agree with u that eps 30 is a must watch eps for all the charray fans, both the kissing scene after the competition and the propose was soo sweet, when I watch the kissing scene where ray propose to charm I started to think about the clips that charms fans had take during the filming. they did have many NG's
I just love this eps!!!
Well I have heard that charm will be paired with bosco, kev and bernice in the TVB calender haven't heard anything about a charray pairing. but well we can always hope that TVB will change their minds *crossing fingers for charray in the calender*

dawnlight
welcome back! nice too see u here again, well school always go first my school is starting next monday so I won't have that much time either to be here but I will make more time during the weekends, well u really should watch eps 30 is one of the best eps of charray moments. I was so suprise that TVB had another skript then the CCTV version, And I think the TVB verision was much better soo sweet ^^ yeah ray just give charm 4 kiss but they did have NG's in this part u can see it on those clip that fans have take during the filming so if we count those too then they will have give eachother the same kind of amount
This couple is just to lovely!!! I really hope that TVB will have another serie with them

WeiGirl93
that doesn't sounds fun at all, but u can always catch up the charray moments later on I'm sure they will give u alot of energy especially eps 30 is the best of the best. u will love it I'm sure about that. and if u have watch the CCTV version before I can tell u that this eps is different from the mainland version TVB's is much better ^^
Charray all the way!!!

Everybody today , Charm and Ray attend at TVB children song award toghether . So tomorrow i hope see them in the picture ^6. . i have read the news that Charm win Gold Prize for her A Litlle Dae Jang Kum song . But i don't know about Ray . Of Course i hope he win too .

dawnlight: HI!! LOL welcome back...awww school started for you already? I still have one week left...aiyaaa i'm gonna sure miss you guys once school starts! (no more late nights of rewatching Charray scenes/looking for Charray pics anymore!) Hahah! You're funny! "Those haters should crawl in a hole and eat their own words" Go dawnlight! You tell 'em!

Jupi: LOL i re-watched that scene (and the other one where they were on the ridge where Ray proposed the first time) like i don't know HOW MANY times! It was just tooo sweet to resist! And i agree, both Ray and Charm look SOOOOOOOOO happy during those scenes it just breaks your heart to think that in only an episode or two everything would be gone and the nightmare begins. They will both start to do stuff that will deliberately hurt each other because of misunderstandings and last generation debts. You know what i'm going to do? I'm not going to watch the scenes of Pong and Bing Yee together and instead, use the time to re-watch Charray scenes AGAIN! ROFL. Ooooh i was at Zhen Pong's blog and i totally agree with what commenter said:
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" I'm so happy, because you and Sau Fung will finally get married. However, that's when the real nightmare begins. The whole ordeal actually begins when your mom indirectly causes the death of Cheung Ping. Why? Why haven't you mom thought of the consequences? You blame Sau Fung because you don't' know how much pain she is in, you don't know the truth. But you are also very cruel. How could you let Bing Yee slap Sau Fung, right in front of you? How could you not yell at her? You don't know. You don't know the truth; the one in the most pain, the one most hurt, the one the most pitiful, the most wounded one, the one most alone...is the woman you love the most: Wing Sau Fung! "
我觉得很开心，因为你和秀风要结婚了，但是，真正的恶梦也就要开始了。一切的恶梦，皆因你妈妈间接害死长萍，为什么？为什么你妈就没有想过后果。你怪秀风，因为你不知道她有多痛苦，你不知道真相，但是你很狠心，为什么就可以在秀风面前让秉怡打她，你还骂他？你不知道，你一切都不知道，最伤心，最痛苦，最难过，最可怜，最孤单的，还是你最爱的女人，就是荣秀风！

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I think even though Sau Fung had hurt Pong a lot, it was understandable why she did what she did considering what she knows and what she sees. Pong still has his family to support him, friends, and of course, Bing Yee. But Sau Fung had nothing; she lost her baby, her husband, her mother, her family...absolutely everything. Here is another comment i found that i wholeheartedly agree with:

"Like what Sau Fung one said to Zhen Pong: When you fall, a lot of people will help you get up. But i, if i fall, i will have nothing, no one to help me. Sau Fung once had a forever supportive mother, but unfortunately because of the one misunderstanding of Zhen Pong's mother she commits suicide. Even though she didn't kill her [Cheung Ping] with her own hands, she was holding an invisible knife...Cheung Ping and Sau Fung had lived together, just the two of them for many years, supporting and braving through everything together, being each other's supportive crutch. After her death, the person closest and whom Sau Fung loves the most became Zhen Pong. Would you not think that Sau Fung is in pain from leaving Zhen Pong? And later on she loses their baby, and Sau Fung, being the headstrong extremist she is, had to tell him that she had an abortion and did it on purpose. Can you just imagine how much pain a mother who loses her child must bear? At that time Zhen Pong did not know the truth, and got together with Bing Yee. When Sau Fung saw the two of them together, who did you think was the one most hurt? One who loses her mother, husband, and even her own child...everything, and to have to watch her husband be with someone else. Can we still blame her for wanting to get revenge? To hate the Wah family? NO! If Bing Yee is the most pitiful, then what about Sau Fung? To see this from another perspective, Bing Yee knew from the very start that Zhen Pong did not love her, yet she still liked to think that one day he will. That's her own decision and ignorance, not anyone's fault. The most pitiful one in the end is Sau Fung...at least she was the one who loses the most..."
正如秀風之前對振邦所說:你跌倒了還有很多人扶你一把, 可是我跌倒了就一無所有了可不是嗎, 原本秀風身邊有個永遠支持她的媽媽, 不幸地為振邦媽媽的一次失誤而自殺, 雖說不上是她親手所殺, 可是也是她拿著一把無形的刀殺了她...長萍是秀數十年來賴以為生, 相依為命的人, 她死後, 秀風最親最愛的人就是振邦, 你猜要她離開振邦她會不難過嗎??後來他們的bb沒有了, 秀風還逞強說是她落的胎, 你猜一個身為母親的人知道自己的孩子沒有了她不難過嗎??這時振邦還不知這個真相, 竟然和秉怡在一起, 卻被秀風看見了, 你認為最傷的是誰??一個沒有了母親, 沒有了老公, 連孩子都沒了的人, 甚麼依靠都沒有了, 還要親眼看見自己的老公和其他人一起, 能怪她不理一切地復仇嗎??能怪她恨華家嗎??不!!若說秉怡是最可憐的人, 那麼秀風呢??平心而論, 秉怡早知道振邦不愛她, 她還妄想振邦終有一天會愛上她, 那是她傻, 與人無尤, 整件事最可憐的卻是秀風...至少她失去的東西是最多的...
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You tell 'em girl! A lot of people are saying how Sau Fung is so cruel for hurting Pong but they neglect to examine the given situation and causes that brought Sau Fung to such a position. IMO Wing Sau Fung is an extremely complicated character; she goes through so much growth and development and was even on the ridge between good and evil like an emotional turmoil. From a materialistic, money-loving girl to grievance from losing her mother, to finally believing that she has found happines [with Wah Zhen Pong], to becoming an extremist in seeking revenge and turning semi-evil...yet hurting herself the most in the end. All i can say is: WOW. I hope Charm gets an award this year for this character, she totally deserves one! (and Ray of course! LOL he goes through actually a lot of the same things as Charm's character...but i'm too tired to type anymore!)

chickky_kut3: Thanks for letting us know! Hopefully we can see pics tomorrow? [bittersweet is hoping to see pics of Ray and Charm chatting/laughing away like a happy lovey dovey couple, like how they were in DOL. Teeheeee!]

YummyFan535: OOhh! So you live in Toronto too? That's so cool! LOL yeah if Ray comes i would SO sneak into Casino Rama with you! [lol time to use those fake IDs! ROFL!] But yeah i think the party/fans gathering won't be actually IN casino rama though...hopefully i can go...maybe i'll even see you! That would be so cool!

Thank you much you guys for the warm welcome back. This is my first weekend after one week of school and now I remember the feeling of looking forward to the weekend feel like lols I miss Charray lots!!

WeiGirl93, wow, you must be so exhausted! I once spent a whole month on road trip and after that, I didn't feel like being on another bus for a while lols the bus smell made me drowsy for like a whole month afterward lols Well, rest as much as you need girl. Charray and us fans will still be here when you come visit again

Jupi, hahaha I see your point there! I bet Ray totally intended on NGs so that he can kiss his Charm lots of times lols
I have watched ep 30 and love it more than I expected! I was giggling like crazy at the kissing scene on the ridge. Then the proposing scene on the street was also so cute! I think I would like to see the getting marry in Las Vegas part included in the TVB version too! But then at the restaurant the way Ray hug Charm was so sweet! They really do look like a happy couple about the get marry. To bad unhappy moments are coming next buuhuhuu


chickky_kut3, Really? That's great! Thanks for informing us! I'm so glad Charray were both at the Children Song Awards! I hope they will have many many pictures together! Can't wait to see the actual show. Congratulations to Charm for her awards! I hope Ray won something too. But I bet he's already happy for his Charm

bittersweet05, yeah, unfortunately we started school early this year. Summer pass by so quickly, I already want it to be summer again. But there's still weekends I gusss. Just hope that my teachers won't assign too many homework assignment this term.
hahaha, those haters deserve to be bitter lols They're just sore losers who can't accept the facts that Charray are both talented people who are perfect as a couple together! Forget them!

Thank you dear for translating the blogs and those great comments! You're the best! I totally agree with those comment. Bing Yee is not pitiful at all. I actually think she's so annoying and selffish girl in denial. Charray are already so happy together, but Bing Yee is still be sour and hanging on hope that Charray breaks up so she can sneak in. That kind of person is a sly and sneaky rat I think. Maybe that's a strong word but I think so, you can't trust that kind of person. Did you guys see Bing Yee's face when Charray announced their engagement? That selfish girl refuse to be happy that the person she love is happy. I don't feel pity for her at all. She brought on her own sadness because she chose to be that way.

As for Charm's Sau Fung, I feel so sad for her from now one when she finds out the truth about her mother's death. She didn't choose this. She is the one who sufered the most, way more than Ray's character I think. It's true like someone said that Ray still have his family and friends to help him recover but Charm has no one at all! I was so mad seeing Bing Yee slap Charm in front of Ray and Ray didn't say anything, even said that he has a new girlfriend now. That B*tch Yee (sorrie for the language but I hate her so much ) has no right to slap Charm! Charm suffers more than she can even imagine. If B Yee didn't recuse herself in the end, I think I might just jump into the tv screen and choke the life out of her

Okay, now I shall focus on more pleasant thought and rewatch ep 30 again for the millionth time lols

chickky_kut3
oh!! it's true?? way that was a great new an award function with charray ^^ well of course ray get an award but I don't think he get the gold b/c charm get it. but it's nice to know that both of them get an award. yeah it will probably be some pics of them together maybe not that much as we wonted.

bittersweet05
hahah well I will re-watch those scenes today they are just too sweet, well I know that the nightmare is coming slowly but certain but I will survive this days by re-watching the sweet scene. Well I don't know if I will boycott the pong and Bing yee scenes but I will defenetly not enjoy it. But the best thing is that they haven't that much screne time :D:D muhahahah
OMG!! I just love those who have make that comment it's soo true, that pong have his family to help and support but charm have no one and are just all alone. I don't think anyone can imagine what kind of pain she is in. I mean she lost her derest mom, then the one she love the most (pong) and after that the only one she thought she had left her own child but she get miscarige.
I really hope that charm will get an award for this character she really deserv it and she have made a great job to show off all the emotions that her character have.

dawnlight
haha maybe u are right ray did it in purpose that he can kiss charm many times or maybe he told the crew to help him out b/c most of the NG's was b/c the light was wrong or the angle was not perfect so they need to take a new shoot
Yeah both the propose scene was awesome, and I just totaly love the hugging scene they had after they tell everyone that they will get married.
Well i agree with u that it's bing yees own choice, so I don't think she have suffer that much. Charm have already give her an hint that she knew that she like pong and she also told her that pong have a girlfriend and she should find someone that are single.
well we must wait like 10 eps before charray are back together again. but I still thinks it's very intresting when charm come back for revange.
Well I really wonder what kind of outfit charray will have on the children award? maybe something matching

YummyFan535
well don't know if I should say thanks for that news of ray, urg don't like linda with him well I heard the same news that charm will be featured with bosco kev and bernice too, well maybe TVB will change their mind in the last minute and make a charray pairing just for make us charay fans to be happy ^^
Well it would be soo cute if charray sing a duet in the childrenaward. or they make a duet of a children song

TVB 531 Magazine has Ray & Charm lor ^^

hello guys here is the mag chickky_kut3 is talking about


Just post up the two pic of them together, I don't think that u guys want to see the cover b/c it's myolie holding ray and charm is just by his side not any body touching

maybe this one is a cute too

Holy gosh, am I dreaming or what? *faints*

I LOVEEEE the first scan, they look so cute haha.. <333 It would've been better if the scans don't include Myolie though [no offense to Myo fans, I like her too.] So I'm guessing there aren't any pictures of them at the children's song award? Haha.. too bad there aren't more pictures of them in the magazine, I'm in need of more Charray pictures, even though I have over 400+ xD

Haha, and you know the last scan Jupi posted? Look who's hand is closer to his heart!! Hehehe, okay, I'm just being random here

Edit: I only had 10 minutes left before I had to go buy school stuff, so I made a ugly Charray banner in Photoshop ><"


it's so plain

Well, at first I was so disappointed to find out that Charray won't be feature in the same month together in the 2008 calendar! Ray is in the same month with that Linda AGAIN!!!! Gosh I am so mad, why Linda, I hate her!!

Then I look at those cute pictures of Charray in the TVB mag scans that Jupi posted up and I feel a little better. If Myolie were not there then I would feel a whole whole lot better. Why must Myolie be there too anyway
I was curious about the cover and the pictures that chickky_kut3 posted didn't seem to show up so I went to search for the entire scans and saw the cover. I was not please with Myolie hanging onto Ray and Charm is on the side not touching Ray. Shouldn't it be the other way around?!? OH well, atleast Ray just stand there with his arms hanging and his eyes are pointed toward his Charm hihihi I would rather have Ray hold hand with Charm in the cover picture then. But hopefully next time Charray can be feature together only!!!! no one else can interfere



hahaha you are quite right YummyFan535! Only Charm can touch his heart!!
Oh yeah, and your banner is pretty nice! Nothing with Charray is ever ugly IMO heeheehee

So no pictures at the Children Song Award yet? I can't find any! If anyone find some please post it here please! I want to see Charray and little kids so I can imagine that's they're little Charms and Rays running around the happy parents lols

dawnlight: LOL my thoughts exactly! Maybe i'm being biased here but yeah, i can't stand it when people keep saying how Pong is so stupid for liking someone who will only hurt him and how he should choose Bing Yee instead. HELLO? It wasn't like Sau Fung chose to be "evil" (which i think is too strong of a weird to describe the character). We have to totally consider the circumstances, her personality and situation she was in; it's a totally logical thing for her to want revenge because her mother was the closest person to her. Pong was hurt, but his hurt was more...."obvious"? lol i don't really know how to explain it but yeahh. Like yeah, he got ditched at the wedding by the woman he loved the most and found out (wait, he actually THOUGHT that because Charm didn't actually have an abortion; it was an accident) that she aborted their baby, of course that hurt. But the pain Sau Fung suffered wasn't as "skin deep". It wasn't as obvious as people think; it isn't one big stab, more like many tiny little scabs that add together into one huge bloody mess. (lol i think i'm starting to not make sense now ) And OMG, yeah i was SOOOOO steaming mad when i watched the scene when Bing Yee slapped Sau Fung and Pong just stood there like a log; he didn't even flinch! (lol i think that was the only moment that i even REMOTELY hated Ray! ) Man Charm should totally get an award for her EXCELLENT portray of Sau Fung (time to spam TVB's mailbox! Hahaha, jk!) She totally brings the character alive and makes the audience feel for her and sympathize her character which is something only a GOOD actress can do. Go Charm! I only have on more week of summer left...then it's back to school. LOL i don't know how i'm gonna get back to the "sync" (FYI: the whole summer i've been sleeping at 3 in the morning and waking up at noon )

Jupi: OMG! I love love love the first scan! (lol just wait until i crop Myolie out of the pic like why is she there...and why are her hands so close to Ray's uh...behind? But it's all okay..she looks really random in the pic anyway ) Sooooooo cute! Awww...love Charm's pose!
My Caption:
Ray (eagerly leaning in for a kiss from his beloved Charmie)): Myolie, kindly remove your filthy hand off my bum and i'll pretend nothing happened. (thinking: 'hope Charmie isn't getting TOO jealous! )
Charm: Awww...Ray-Ray i <3 youu too! (thinking: awww...Ray-Ray is so cute! But he's leaning so far...hope he doesn't hurt his back again!)
Ray: (thinking: must lean further...my lovely Charmie's luscious lips are so close...must lean further! ) Myolie! What part of N-O don't you get?!
Myolie: (thinking: Ray is so sexy! Hmm...wonder how far he'll lean for "his Charmie" Why won't he lean this way instead?! Aghrr...must smile for camera...must act happy...show teeth, show teeth...grinding teeth...)


LOL, Ray looks like a player in the second pic (but of course WE all know who's the most important in his heart! )


YummyFan535: Hahah i like your "analysis"! Of course his Charmie would be closer to his heart! Always.
On a side note: WHY IS LINDA ON THE SAME MONTH AS RAY?!?!?!!?!?!!?! OMG, i'm so mad right now! They're so overpromoted even though they've only been in one series together And their chemistry is NOTHING compared to those of Charray's. Aiya...TVB need to wake up from their HOG haze.

BTW, i was wondering if anyone has a bigger version of the TVB Weekly magazine scans? I'd like to read it...maybe there'll be some "clues" that can be used for more Charray fantasies! THANKS!

Haha something I noticed from the scan, you know the picture where Myo linked arms with Ray and has her head on his shoulder? haha, he doesn't look like he liked it.. xD His face was like.. >.> looking at Charmaine.. hehe.. or am I just imagining too much? Click here to see it --> http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/483/928...2020bbzqde7.jpg
He looks so.... wooden?!? haha...

Okay, and on the picture where Ray and Charm are in that kissing position.. don't u see a little smile across Ray's face? Or am I the only one who sees it? xD

For this pic ---> http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5134/92...39e260vgqj5.jpg
Look at Ray's expression--> o_o LOLLLL.. xD

Bittersweet: Go here to see the clear words from the scan.. http://z4.invisionfree.com/raymondlam/inde...;st=0&#last

P.S. I love Charmaine's hair. It's so nice

THANKS YummyFan535! Hahah i TOTALLY see what you're talking about. LOL actually Ray kinda reminds me James Bond with that expression on! (with the tux and all) But yeah, haven't you noticed that in all the pics, Ray has this mono-expression on EXCEPT in the pic where he's with Charm, doing the kissy face thing? And when they asked "Zhen Pong" (Ray) about his thoughts on the whole love triangle thing he said "from the beginning to end, the only one that i truly loved was Sau Fung...." (Hmmm...was that "Ray" speaking or "Zhen Pong"? )

HAHA! Everyone at Honeypot (where there are bigger scans of the pics -- thanks YummyFan535 for letting me know!) is saying "why does Ray look so weird when he's in the pic with Myolie?"
LOL, someone even said "does he have hatred towards her or what??" ROFL! And i LOVE this comment "In pictures with Myolie he's looking away or looks really weird.. o.0
But when he's with Charmaine they look cute like a couple. Charmaine looks pretty! I like her top." YAY! See, Charray's chemistry is so blinding obvious!!! Heeheee!

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According to sehseh's blog, Charmaine will be heading to Taiwan with Bosco, Kevin, Tavia and Bernice to shoot for hte 08 TVB Calendar...chances are her and Ray won't be on the same page. *tear*

Hey all!

*waves to Hang*

Didn't dare to read through your posts in case I get a smackful of spoilers in the face =P. Anyway, speaking of Ray loving Charm in the show, I'd like to point out - If Ray loves her then that's that. He can't just quit loving because it's LOVE! Hellloooooooooo... I mean sometimes we love people we shouldn't. People we know won't like us back or people who already has partners. Do you think those people chose to do that? Yep.

LOL, anyway. Dropping by to say hi and stuff. Been really busy and school's gradually getting more and more infuriating. Haven't got to see DOL yet and hopefully I'll be able to soon! Heard from my friend that the China parts are boring as heck though. I think I'll have to agree. I kinda saw one episode and it doesn't look too promising. What did I say about long series again? xD

I'll definitely be watching every single Charray scene there is though.

Alright peeps =D. Gotta rush off now. I'll be dropping by more often. See ya!

The picture's are so cute! Especially the kissing position one! And yes, Yummyfan535 (Phuong).. I do see a little smile across his face... RayRay looks weird with Myolie (his face expression ) Oh and your banner is great !! In 10 min? Wow, that is fast! Really want to see more works from you .Think I'm going to try to photoshop with those pic's when I have inspiration .

This is my latest work:


Newayz.... DAMN NOT LINDA AGAIN! She really is overpromoted.. Gosh,. I hate her..

There are no pic's of CharRay from children award?

To Ida101 (Off Topic):


(off topic) RANGE!!! I missed you......

hey hey...

first of all great to see all old and new Charray supporters!! well the TVB calender 2008.. why can't it be a Charray month.. Im fine with Charmaine's month cos it has ppl i like but Ray.. poor him.. but its all good i will make my own calender (do that every year) Charray all the way...

after watching Charray break up.. well Charmaine leaving Raymond i've been quite down.. im pretty sure it was because of that.. its just too sad, heart breaking.. but at least we all know its a happy ending.. and after all throughout the whole series Raymond only love Charmaine.. sweet..!!

x_Sweet_Lady_x- thanks for informing me.. and i didnt give permission to that person who posted my fanfic up.. totally didnt know it was posted on AF either.. on one side i'm happy cos it means they like my story which means they like Charray but would of been nice to ask before using my work as there own.. tsk tsk..

well not very happy about that.. think i'll go watch the proposal scene with Charray to cheer me up a little..

Welcome back Range

Anyways, did anyone watch episode 31 yet? I almost bursted out crying cause it was so sad how Charm figured out Gigi indirectly caused her moms death :'(

As for the Childrens Award thingy, I've been searching everywhere, but I found no Charray pictures at all!

Oh yea, in my spare time, I made a.. weird looking icon xD

HI RANGE! *waves* LOL, wow everyone will be so busy once school starts; but i know we will all still love Charray unconditionally and this forum will never die!

Wow x_Sweet_Lady_x and YummyFan535! Your banners and avvies are so nice! (lol i just remembered what dawnlight said: nothing with Charray can ever be ugly Well said dawnlight! LOL)

Awww...just read Pong's latest blog entry. Makes me sad all over again that all this happiness will soon be GONE.



August 27th: Hahahaha
In preparations for the wedding, i've been super busy. But i will still smile no matter how busy it gets; i will smile even in my dreams. Thank you Sau Fung, thank you for making me the happiest man on earth. Don't laugh at my cheesiness! In that sense, men and women are the same; we all enjoy love and happiness.

these pics are pretty old

Hello guys I find a great to for me to be here, even if school have start for me I can always wake up earlier and go to this thread and post
hey the rating for TDOL this week was 31 PTA and peeked to 34 still not the best, but I'm sure this weeks rating will be better.
Well i don't think there where any charray pics from children award =( maybe later the pics with them will show up.

bittersweet05
Hahaha I know that u would like that pic of charray, they where so sweet, Well I'll be waiting for your manipulated pic don't want myolie to be there either
haha how sweet caption u have made ,) Just LOVE it and I think it's so true how many ppl have point that ray looks weird when he had his pics with myolie. Anyway it's so true that charm is always at his let side at the same side his heart the one and the only for ray is Charm!!!
OMG!!! so sweet of pong to write that, but this make me even more sad, b/c I know the fact that todays eps will be the end of this happiness of them. Well I really wonder what he will write in his blog after todays eps
I can't stand 2 weeks without sweet charray moments. =(


YummyFan535
I think charm looks great in the mad scan. well i realy wonder when they take this pis of them? was is long ago or did they take it after charms break? anyway really can't wait for sehsehs translation really want to understand the whole articule.
CharRay are just too sweet, I can't bare it todays eps will separate this lovely couple.

Range
great to see u back, well i think it was a smart thing to not read all the post we have post otherwise we truly should have spoil the whole serie for u
but u must catch up this lovely serie I mean u can't miss this charray serie they are just too sweet, too adorable to be missed.

Ida101
Don't be too sad, i know that it's heartbreaken to see this lovely couple to separate but as u said we all know that it's a happy ending
Well during this period I will deffenetly re-watch the sweet scenes with them together. I just love eps 30 i don't know how many times I have re-watch this eps.
Well I really hope that TVB will change their mind about the pairing in the TVB calendar I mean charms month is great but rays ehh.... don't know really. I can't see the great thing between ray and linda *grr* they haven't any chemistry.

x_Sweet_Lady_x
I really like your charray creation it was really sweet, u are good at it I wonder when i will have time to make some too, there are so many sweet screne with them that I want to make banners or avatars of.


babyV.
yupp eps 31 was out yesterday. well I'm not at home right now so i can't upload that eps for u =( maybe yummyfans will upload it later

AhSi
well that mag is pretty old but we like it anyway but i would hope for more charray pics in it.

i personally loveee raymond but i don't admire charmaine. When i heard some stuff about ray and charmaine being together, i didnt like it. I would like ray with a younger woman and also i would like to see ray acting more real with other actresses, it seems tht he only acts his heart out with charmaine, such as in DOL(hes so real w/ char but in HOG, he seems a bit different w/Linda.) oh well, as long as ray likes charmaine, its okay then.

Jupi: Hahah if i have time tonight i will definitely make some 'little changes' to the pics. *rubs hands together eagerly* Oh my...i just read Pong's blog entry and it just breaks my heart...(i think i'm tearing up a little...lol but don't tell anyone!)

August 28th: Hurt
Sau Fung jilted at the altar, threatened my parents...of course it hurts. But no matter how she hurts me, none of it can top me seeing her hurt herself. Because no matter how she hurts me i know it's because she cannot let go of revenge. I could forgive her; i'm willing to give my all to accept her whole. But what hurts me the most is because of revenge, she's willing to hurt herself and give away her own happiness. I can only imagine how much it hurts and how
painful it must be for her to do all this. All this time she has been in so much pain, yet i couldn't protect her.

I always thought that i had repaired that "hole" in her heart, always thought that she had recovered and once again became a happy carefree girl. But i was wrong. I trust my instincts that she still loves me. It's only because of revenge that is blinding her. I have a premonition that i will lose her forever. I hope that will never come true. I have to find her, no matter how far i have to go, i HAVE to find her.


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Awww...Zhen Pong is such a sweetie; after all that he still only cares about Sau Fung more than himself. If only he never went out with Bing Yee later on...

TaRo4ever: Hi there. This is a Charray forum and normally i despise haters who come and express their "opinions" on this couple. BUT i appreciate your comment; just goes to show that it's not only because we Charray fans are biased; but really, Raymond and Charmaine bring out the best of each other and their chemistry is undeniable. And what you said is totally true; in HOG with Linda he was more i don't know..."stiff" and their chemistry just wasn't as charismatic nor was his acting brought up to a different level. IN DOL however, he truly did "act his heart out" (just watch how crazy he goes at the wedding scene...man! ) and their chemistry just really shine through. I think it's nice that you're okay with it ("oh well as long as ray likes charmaine") I think that's so true; we fans always put actors and actresses that we like together, HOPING they could be together in real life and bashing all other couples. But deep down we all know that it's their own lives and we cannot force our selfish fantasies on them just to make ourselves happy. TV is TV and reality is reality. However, if you ever do become a Charray fan, you know where to find us!

WeiGirl93
I think that u can make it, I mean just think about charray and u will have enought of energy to go up and type in this thread I cried so hard alst night when I watch eps 32 I told my self to wait till this week and then watch all the eps but i couldn't =( now the sweet charray moment are gone must wait 11 eps before we can see them back together again =( i want to see charray now!!!


Range
I'm sure u won't miss any charray moments either. Well pearl have been here, she just left a message u will find her post if u browse backwords. anyway I hope u will have more time to be here and chat about charray and I deffenetly hope u will have time to watch DOL b/c charray in this serie is the BeSt!!!!

bittersweet05
OMG!!! thank u soo much for the translation of Pongs blog, he is just too sweet, And I'm really happy that he understands that fung is the one who are most hurt here. Well didn't fung write anything in her blog?
Well I'm waiting for your manipulation of the charray pic from the mag scan. I can't stand this there won't be anny sweet charray moments now on. I'm sure I will re-watch all the sweet scene with them together.
This really hurts to see them like this. i didn't feel this way when i watch the CCTV version i feelt bad and I was really sad but not like this I think it's b/c it's their own voice and the expresion is totaly different..
I want charray back!!!

TaRo4ever
Well i'm really glad that u think ray have great chemistry with charm and yes i totaly agree with u that ray really act his heart out when he is pairing with charm, all the think and his emotions re soo real. really enjoy the good acting from both sides.
Maybe someday u will start to be a fans of this lovely couple

*wipes tears with tissue paper* Episode 33 was so sad. Well for me it was 10 more episodes until Charray get back together, hmm, how many days will it take until TVB airs episode 43? Too lazy to count xD Probably in another 1 week and few days xD

Now that Sau Fung just had a miscarriage, and Pong thought that she aborted it, I wonder what he's going to write in his blog now. ><

Haha, I gotta wait till the Viet version comes out so then I'll understand what they are saying. I pretty much spoiled myself by watching the mandarin and canto version xD

Oh yea, currently uploading Episode 33.. hehe..

P.S. School is in 6 days... I think I'm going to die

Edit: Episode 33 for those who haven't seen it yet:

http://www.sharebig.com/share.php?id=s10jpkvprlyhmnv7K

Jupi: Haha, no prob. I know i was like "awwww...." when i read that too. Really shows how much he loves her; he is willing to accept her, flaws and all. Aghrr, but i just don't think i can bear to watch ep.33 when Pong misunderstands Fung for aborting the baby. That's gonna be so painstaking to watch. I was at Pong's blog reading his sad entry and i found another great comment that i totally agree with:
You must be disappointed in her [Sau Fung]; you think she threw away the love and connection between the two of you and i understand what you must be going through. Even though you're both innocent victims, it's really hard for her to face your family and do you know how much pain she must be in? You and her are the same; in a swift moment you both fell from heaven to hell. But you have your family. What about her? She only has herself; even though she may be an extremist and irrational, she will still need to find a way to numb her feelings and emotions to live on normally. Do you understand? I know you love her a lot, because you're a responsible man. Zhen Pong, when you see her again, trust your instincts, at that time you will understand the hurt and pain you both endured; both of you are the victims.

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I swear it's because of Charmaine's superb acting that i'm totally drawn into this character and the pain and suffering Wing Sau Fung must go through. When people watch DOL, they all see the surface layer first; Zhen Pong as the victim and Sau Fung as the extremist girlfriend who deliberately hurts him. However, people seem to forget Sau Fung's background; this woman's whole life has been a roller coaster; from an abusive and broken childhood to learning to finally accept a relationship, to blissful happiness with a man whom she has truly fallen for, to losing the closest person to her in the world: her mother, then finding out her fiance's parents had indirectly been involved in her mother's death. I'm surprised she hasn't jumped off a building yet! Anyway, enough of my babbling but i just can't stand it when people keep saying "Aw Sau Fung is so cruel for doing all that to Zhen Pong!" Aiii.....i'm having another one of those crazed "TV moments" (when i'm totally and utterly absorbed into a character that i feel the need to defend them...lol that happened once when i watched Dicey Business and i just couldn't stop rambling on and on about how pitiful Bobby's character was and how Bosco was so mean to him.) ANYWAY, moving on! Yeah, i didn't really have much time so i just made a quick and kinda ugly if i say so myself (which i do LOL!) avatar/animation of Charray. Heehee! Enjoy!



AhSi:
August 29th: If i could die
I once thought i was in heaven because of Sau Fung. Also because of Sau Fung, i now feel like i've fallen to hell. My physical health is still well; i'm breathing, my heart is still beating, but my soul has already died. When i found out her baby was gone, i had died. When i saw Sau Fung again and she told me herself that she aborted our baby, i died again. Now i have no more feelings, hurting to the max actually feels like nothing. Why don't you just let me die. I'm just a walking dead right now.

If my death would not sadden my family, if i didn't have to be responsible to the ones that loved me, be responsible to my own life, then let me die. If i died, at least my soul would be able to go find Sau Fung, and ask her: is there love or is everything just for revenge. Would she shed tears for me? Would she?

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Aw man. Poor Pong...first losing his wife and then losing his baby AND having to think that Sau Fung did it on purpose. AGHRHR! DOL is such a good torture series! LOL...poor Pong and Fung. Aii....looking forward when they get back together!

Range: No prob! You should come visit more often; we all miss you! (i LOVE your funny Charray fantasies and captions!) :dede:

NOOOOO! School next week. Aiyaaaa...

i totally agree with bittersweet... Charmaine's acting in DOL is sooo great especially during the middle parts when she becomes all "evil" she really did sucha great job.. and as for Raymond.. his emotions are soo great as well.. those bits when he was crying were just sooo touching and sad.. you can really feel the love between the two of them...!! one word: Awesome!!

and for those ppl who keep saying how Charmaine is so cruel for doing that to Ray.. like bittersweet ppl have to look beneath the surface.. she may seem cruel on the outside but ppl have to understand why she decided to take this path.. if she grew up in a normal home with no domestic violence then she may choose a different path.. all her life her main goal was to protect her mother.. i keep thinking what would i do if i were in her shoes.. but i really love how Ray was willing to accept her flaws even after she left him.. cos he understands.. its so heart breaking to see them two apart due to a misunderstanding.. which i blame the nurse at the hospital for.. they totally got their facts wrong saying Charmaine was having an abortion.. if the nurse gave Ray the right info then everything would of been good.

have to wait what seems like ages till they get back together... in the CCTV version they get back together in ep43 but i think the TVB version they get back together in ep44.. still cant get over the great acting by both Charmaine and Raymond..

oh yeh.. been listening to the subtheme of DOL alot.. (second song in my car).. and the more i listen to it the more i love it.. i just love how it applies to both Charmaine and Raymond.. both wanting to hate each other but can't..

Hi guys. I'm on lunch break right now from school so have to make this brief. Sorry I haven't been here lately but I still miss you guys and Charray a whole lot. I wonder what they are doing right now. Charm is going to film FH 2 soon right? and Ray is still filming his Four Constable series. But atleast they are together in HK now lols.
How is the rating for DOL so far? gosh I have a lot to catch up with. Too bad school, work and volunteering are taking up my whole life now.

Oh I notice another common event between Charray, but I don't have time to go back and dig up the whole list now so I'll just list it by itself now and hopefully someone or I will add it to the whole list later.

Similarity #?: Both Charrray have appear as guest judges in Minute to Fame in Malaysia!

By the way, those artworks are great! keep them coming guys!

Charray are the best!!

Range
yup u are totaly right she is busy with college. but she will check this out when she have time. Don't worry she won't forget about us and of course she can't forget about this lovely couple

tigger_bounce11
Welcome back again, well hope u had a great vacation. yeah eps 30 is soo sweet so many sweet charray screnes but too bad it ended in eps 32 =(
I don't know if u have re-watch eps 30 but I can tell u that i have I just love the scene after the bed competition and the one where ray propose to charm in mainland and of course the hugging scene they had in the resturant I just love them together. It's so sad that there are just 25 eps left of DOL =( wonder when TVB will pair them up again.

YummyFan535
I understand what u are talking about I was crying too when I watch that eps. and it's really hurt when charm leaved ray in the altar =( well they will get back together in eps 44 instead of CCTV 43 I have seen the DVD version of DOL and charray did get back together in eps 44 instead of 43.

bittersweet05
well even if it hurts to watch eps 33 I still like it. I mean both of them make a great job, Ray with his fire emotions and how sad and dissapointed he was when he heard that charm did a abortion and how he cried when daimen come in to the cofeeshop or whatever it was. And I just feel the pain in charm, when she lose everything in the same time, the man she loves the most and then her only conection to ray. What more can a women suffer then that first lose her husband and then her baby..
I'm glad to read that Pong understand y Fung was doing this and he will still be with her no matter what, this blog realy help us to know how pong think.
Well written by that person. I totaly agree with him/her I mean yes pong is sad and he get hurt but what about fung have anyone think of her, she have no one left and still need to carry on without anyone to support her or helping her.
I agree with u, charm have made a excellent job to portray this character and I really can feel the pain she is in right now. When Fung was happy so did I and now when she is suffering I do it too. yeah I get mad at those ppl who are saying that charm is evil and Pong is the most pitty one, I think ppl have just forget about Fungs backround and what she have been through, I mean she is a really stong, if I was in her cloths I don't know what I will do. maybe like u said jumping from a building.
No I don't think your animation was that bad, well if u have more time make more and share with us
OMG!! I don't know what I will do y can't fung read pongs blog I'm sure that fung will cry if pong died.

Ida101
U just write what I had on my heart. I can't agree with u better then what u have write. Well charm did amazing job so did ray I think this is the only serie I have seen of ray that he could really make me cry when he did. I mean ray is a good actor but he have never made me cry so dam hard and he have never give me this kind of feelings. I really can see that he loves CHARM (fung)
U are not the only one that are angry at the nurse in the hospital I mean if u are telling someone an information at least it should be real. this make me really angry but in the other hand if it wasn't this kind of missunderstanding then charray wouldn't have so many things to go through and their relationship with eachother wouldn't be so stong. I mean after all they have been through and they still can be together that means they really LOVE eachother.
oh do u have the mp3 version of the subtheme I have just the MV version and I can't stand to hear bernice voice not that I don't like her but I would be more happy and enjoy the song if it was silent during that part =P
I love the sub song too, ray did sing it well and the lyrics is all about their relationship and how they feel. soo dam good this lyrics writer are amazing. who write the lyrics?

dawnlight
well it's ok that u haven't been here I mean school and other stuff go first, We all know that your love for charray will not end well the ratings is doing ok I think last weeks rating was 33 and peak to 36. But i think this weeks rating will be even better b/c it's now the story begins I think that the audience want to know what cham will do next and how this thing will be smooth again. ect.
well I will add that poin in the commom list later on. It's so fun I thought about that to when I know charm will be one of the judge in minutes to fame. anyway hope u will have more time to spend it here and talk about charray. well don't know how many eps u have missed of DOL but u really should watch eps 30 I'm sure u will get crazy Charray are just too sweet !!!

Ida101: I know 'eh? *nods vigorously* People just see the surface and don't go deep enough to see the WHOLE picture. They just see Pong as the obvious victim and just because Sau Fung is holding the dagger, that doesn't automatically mean she's the cold-blooded murderer! Doesn't anyway know the saying 'more than meets the eye'? Hahah i agree! It's all the nurse's fault! Like WTF, Sau Fung said she wanted an abortion in the beginning but she didn't actually go through with it and even told the doctor she changed her mind and will have the baby and raise him/her by herself. *cursing that stupid nurse* LOL it kinda reminds me of Romeo and Juliet! IMO it was all that servant boy's fault (what's his name? Balthasaur or something?) If he didn't tell Romeo Juliet died then Romeo wouldn't have suicided and Juliet wouldn't have either and NONE of them would've died! :closedeyes: Awww...i just read Pong's blog and there are LOADS of comments of people supporting Charray! People are like "Don't give up on Sau Fung!" and "If you start liking someone else i'm not gonna watch DOL anymore!" That ALMOST makes up for Charray being apart...*sighh* Oh well at least school starts next week so i probably won't have time to watch the sad moments of Charray separated. When will they get back together? The week after the next? BTW, I totally LOVE your fanfic Ida! You're a very talented writer and i hope you'll continue writing awesome fanfics (esp. Charray ones of course!)

dawnlight: HI! LOL mannn that just reminded me that school starts next week for ME! I think Ray will probably wrap filming The Four Young Constables soon (they've been filming for like 2 months already?) and yeah Charm will be filming FH2 starting i think on Sept. 16. Oooh! So Ray had also been a judge for Minutes To Fame in Malaysia? Thanks for noticing that!! More stuff for me to moon over! LOL!
BTW, i just noticed something. You know how Ron was photographed driving Charm home some time ago? Well, here's my CRAZY explanation for the rumor: Ray was worried about Charm going home so late alone after work and since he was filming/had work that day, he couldn't drive his lovely Charmie home so he asked his good pal Ron to drive his gf home for him! LOL it totally makes sense! I remember watching some interview clip and Ray kept defending Ron and saying how it's "impossible for Charm to have fallen for Ron" (of course Ray...'cause Charm is already with YOU! ) Hahahah! Sorry i just had to think of SOMETHING 'cause Ron with Charm is just kinda... 'cause WE all know CHARM + RAY belong together FOREVER!!! Yeah i think DOL ratings will be pretty high for this week with all the drama and the sad SAD separation of Charray. Hopefully it'll beat FAS!

hey everyone

lol finally DOL is getting somewhere! episodes 30-33 was just some awesome episodes so far. I love the cute charray scenes in episode 30. Then episodes 31-33 was just so sad for them!! cried with raymond when he cried. Actually never seen ray like that befor!! the part where he was in the bar... after finding about Charm "aborting" their child! AHHH just breaks my heart seeing him like that.

ANYWAYS, i just saw those TVB magazine scans of Ray, Charm and Myolie.. and TVB what are they doing!! the cover page.. has charm like so far away from ray... and then they put rayolie together.

Although Ray doesnt look that happy but still!!! >< we already wont get to see charray much... sigh rayolie we always see...

heheh but on the bright side, Ray looks soo cool and handsome! Charm looks sooo pretty, like her hair and her expressions too. i wish they had at least one pic of them together, like how they had it for Ray and Myolie.....


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oh i was reading the above posts and reminded me of something. The part where Charm miscarriaged... i thought all the doctors and nurses knows she miscarriaged.. it wasnt an abortion.

then when ray came to the hospital a while after, the nurses told him she aborted her child?? LOL that didnt make sense to me.. but they seem to have gotten the part where she told the nurse "i dont have a husband, i'm single" correctly..

i really like the parts where ray stays by chars side when her mother just died
and just like Ida10 said the part when ray cries is so real
itz like he's really crying fantastically done...i have watch until episode 34 and by far the best crying part for me should be the one where ray is taking the ribbons that is pasted on his car coz he's marrying
omg that part was like WOW!!
the series is really getting better and better

Well our post have been deleted again but I'm sure we will gain it back again soon I just write some more common thing charray have together one point is from dawnlight

1) both are contracted artists of TVB
2) both like Chow Yuan Fat
3) both like Japanese food
4) both love kids
5) both starred in Yummy Yummy, LWOLAP, and DOL, and more to come
6) They both have similar sunglasses!
7) Uses the same make-up mirror thingy.
8) Are both mature and intelligent people .
9) Loves to joke and laugh.
10) Loves to act in dramas and those inspirational series.
11) Both have won TVB most favourite character awards
12) Both don't mind the age of their partner (Raymond doesn't care if his gf is older than he is and Charmaine doesn't mind if her bf is younger)
13) Their favorite animal is dog!
14) both won the best actress/actor award in astro in the year 2006
15)both won the best actor/actress in AAA during 2006
16) both have a huge fanbase in China (raymondforest.com and shehsheh.com)
17) They both can sing(and they're good at it).
18) Are in very good contact with their family.
19) They both prefer to film modern series.
20) Raymond thought of Charmaine as "little girl" (he even added "She is still a little girl") and Charmaine thought of Raymond as "little boy"
21) They both describe each other as hardworking and professional
22) They both like Japanese cartoon cat (Raymond likes Ding Dong, the mechanical cat, and Charmaine likes Hello Kitty)
23) both like to sing
24) they both drive marcedes-Benz (not the same kind of brand)
25) They both like to wave their hand when say "No"
26) onte more thing they both like to use their hands when sing Happy b-day in the qq interview u could see that ray did that and in E-buzz when charm and moses was the guest they interviews them and charm did the same thing when they was talking about the wrong celebration for moses
27) Both are kids at heart!
28) Both have habit of pushing their glasses up using their middle fingers
29) Both described as gracious. Raymond being gentlemanly and saying "I'm OK with it" whenever they go out for food and Charmaine going anywhere with you eventhough she's not feeling like it.
30) Both of them definitely really rich
31) Witty people! Raymond with his snake-bitten comment and Charmaine's countless comments that rendered reporters speechless
32) Both definitely has a lot of rumours on being the playgirl/playboy type.
33) Their interviews are always enlightening. I get inspired when I read Charmaine and/or Raymond's interviews and their opinions on life as well as their past experiences.
34) both of them have thought about to go off screne ( quiting from the industry)
35) both of them have study overseas
36) Good at acting
37) Both use multiple phones
38) both have a secret sign that just they two know of
39) both cover their mouth when they laugh
40) both show their pearly whites when they smile
41) TVB wants to promote both in mainland market!
42) Both are talking about the same kissing scene from DOL
43) Charm have never kiss a male like she did in DOL in reallife, and ray have never been kiss like that in reallife
44) Charray often wear matching outfits (coincidental or not? )
45) Both prefer their love partner to be more traditional Chinese (not westernize)
46) Both want to focus on their career and just want to date when they have time
47) Both have acted in series where their characters died only twice; one time in ancient era and one time in modern era: Charm (ancient: Strike at Heart and modern: Seven Sisters) and Ray (ancient: Twins of Brother and modern: Heart of Greed)
48) Both are proud owner of a dog. Ray has Mimi and Charm has (unknown)
49)The first tear that drop from their eyes is almost everytime from the right eyes (sometimes it will be different )

50) both of them have been the judge for Minutes to fame in Malaysia <------ dawnlights point
51) They both really like the boy who performed MJ in Minutes to fame in malaysia
52) Both of them are very positive persons (most of the times they are happy like the host said in QQ interview in 365 u guys are happy in 364 )

i just watched eps 32 and 33 and wooow charmaine is evil xD
but i hope that charray will be together ASAP because i don't really like that myolie
and WHAT our post have been deleted again