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noname123
I'm so sick and tired of ppl saying Chun and Ella are CUTE together!!!

They're NOT okay.. it's very distributing how ppl kept on saying Chun and Ella are really cute in HanaKimi..

I don't get what those ppl see... Ella is so boyish... not saying it's a bad thing.. Ella's character is acting like a boy in HanaKimi.. how is that cute with Chun....

someone please tell me...

Ella and Chun DON'T MATCH!! stopping saying they do... cause they DON'T... GRR... pisses me off.. dont know why...

and I hate to see pictures of Chun and Ella together... they'er ALWAYS on COLOR the pictures Ella take with Chun is very distributing..

there is one where Ella is pretending to be a DOG...

I'm not against Ella or Chun.. i just don't see how they are CUTE together..

i think Chun looks better with Ariel in Tokyo Juliet...
Simplyconfused
ME!!! I totally agree wit all of you!
Nothing against Ella or Chun, but they definitely do not look good or great together esp. as a couple!!!
It was hard for me to watch Hana Kimi for some reason....
I really wanna see Chun wit Gillian though... XD
miss scarlett
I do think Chun and Ella are a cute couple, but I'm not to the point like what you explained above. Basically I have nothing against Chunella and if they wish to film another series together, go ahead, and if they don't, I'm cool with that as well.

I personally enjoyed Jiro and Ella more as a couple in Hana-Kimi, to be honest... haha probably because Xiu Yi was my favorite character.

I'm not too fond of Chun and Ariel Lin either. Basically... I don't really have a "favorite" for Chun, lol.
Aspire
Well, I suppose Chun and Ella's exposure together is really high recently so people may get bored with them... I do like to see them together, but I don't hope that Ella is the ONLY girl Chun is associated with... I know Hana Kimi brought a lot of fans to an ecstatic fever and once I saw a fan saying things like "I want Chun to be with Ella only"... then I was thinking, why stick to one female artist while he could co-star/collaborate with other female stars?

I have nothing against the Chun+Ella pairing too, but I think sometimes Chun should be given the chance to be seen with other female artists instead of always Ella... or else it would be quite bland to see him with the same girl everytime...
blueocean
I do, Ella is seemed more to be his older sister or friend than his girlfriend or lover IMO.
kawa!!ness
I dont really like this couple either I can see them as a couple in hana kimi cuz ella played very well acting as a boy. but in real life, I see wu chun with more a lady-like, woman like actress..not saying Ella isn't a woman it just not what i was picturing. no offense...wu chun and gillian i can picture.but yeah
VINTAGECHARM
ME ME! ella looks like my lesbian cousine. I really liked to watch hana kimi but I can't stand seeing her face. Remembers me of how my cousine tried to hit on me OMGAAAAHHH


Seriously dude, they ain't cute. Hes hot, shes not. NOOOO CHEMISTRY AT ALL! period.
mizzleesta
im not hating on ella being boyish, and it doesnt matter to me if they're a good couple or not. i think ppl should stop making a big deal of ella and chun being a cute couple...ppl really have different opinions...I think that they make an UGLY couple bleah.gif 23.gif ...sorry to those who think they're cute together
Originale™
Although i really liked Hana Kimi and them starring in it were kinda sweet but i wouldnt recommend them as a couple. Although i dun really care if they are. But i think there are way too many posters of them on mags and in posters of them two. Its just too much and also all the hype abt them being a couple. Not necessary.
Rin.
OH GOSH. i am so happy, that i'm not the only one who thinks this.

I'm sorry, but i really dont like Ella in HanaKimi at all. Is it because she looks uncannily like a boy? like i know that's the part she has to play, but .. it just turns me off.

She does NOT make a good match with wu zun.

There is absolutely NO CHEMISTRY at all in this show. They're just not a cute couple, and i have no idea how they could've won the poll for best couple. HOW?! what the.

Wu Zun and Ariel, is BY FAR better.
xLx
yes i agree
i hate the fact that they have this 'couple' image just becoz they were in hana kimi together.
i hate the fact i see them two on the cover of colour magazine for four months in a row
it will be so much bettah if its just ella or SHE

i personally don't think wu zun is rite for ella
becoz he is too numb
ella wud be so much bettah off with me.**ok..datz a joke..**
plus ella is really hot.and qt.and sxc and cool etc

so ya..i rkn it'll be the best if HIM cud stop promoting them two TOGETHER , but promote them SEPERATELY.! ^^

datz all.^^
Aspire
QUOTE(VAN3SSAx @ Apr 30 2007 8 12 PM) [snapback]3826505[/snapback]
Im curious, have any of you guys gave the series any chance? I mean at least watching half of the series? If so, I respect and understand your opinions.

I don't know what you mean by that, but I did finish the whole show... I do not hate them, but I am just annoyed that Chun is constantly being associated with Ella... sorry to CE fans, but like what I've said above, I really hope to see more of Chun acting/collaborating with other female artists... Ella may be a female star who suits him now, but who knows maybe if Chun does work with another female artist, she may be as compatible with Chun as Ella does...

Please take note that I am not being a hypocrite (I said before that I think CE have good chemistry together) because I do see CE as a good couple, but not forever...
jjforever
Although, I don't like Zun matching up with Ella, I've no problem that others not think the same way. However, what annoyed me was that when I posted a video of Ariel and Zun on TJ promotion, I am getting so much childish comments such as Ella is so much better with Zun. It's not even related to Ella, can some fans just give it a rest and just accept that there are other people that preferred Zun matching with other actresses instead of Ella!

If Zun can only be match up with Ella in every serie, I am sure, eventually, no one will watch their drama!
MadHatter
i feel that its just the peoples preference to a hype or a phase in a drama. just like many people like:

joe and ariel together lol...or
mike and ariel...or
rainie and mike....

im not agaisnt them being together, but then i do understand where you are getting with them being over exagerated and almost each news has to be at least one out of the bunch regarding the two, but then i feel its also more of a promotional stunt.

im still in the high with hana kimi to tell you the truth..so i can't say much about these but that im neutral but bending towards liking them together.

but if there is chemistry then there is.
i think wu zun and ella are like brothers and sisters anyway...
Lissy24
I AGREE!

the Taiwanese Hana Kimi RUINED my manga! i'm so scarred, i watched like, two seconds, ok, twelve seconds of the premotional trailer..what not thing...quite frankly, it destroyed me. no offense or anything, but the only actor who fit his role was Jiro(good job)...the others...nothing close to the manga characters....i request, no i demand a new cast!

besides, Chun is my friend's husband, thus i'm not letting ella's boyish fingers on him tongue.gif
forgivenx
^^Hmmm, i know what you are trying to say. Perhaps put it in a better way instead of caps-ing everything in your post.

I feel that Ella and Chun are cute together because of their on screen and off screen actions and stuff like that. I think that they are getting some haters because they are being overly promoted (The Color magazine thing just tells us all). Hana Kimi is sort of ruined because of both Ella and the plot. Personally i feel that Chun did quite a good job (He is just a newbie, give him some credit...lol). Sano isn't exactly very outgoing. LOL tongue.gif Ella wasn't feminine enough, but that doesn't mean that she isn't a good actor. In the drama, C&E are suppose to be a couple, naturally people will find them cute together. Obviously some won't. Like what Madhatter said, it's something like you prefer Rainie with Mike than Rainie with KingOne.
MadHatter
QUOTE(poproxnsoda @ Aug 8 2007 3 03 PM) [snapback]4282333[/snapback]
Who me???I was caps-ing because I was mad.

lol have you ever thought that was the initial reaction the OP wanted to get to you on? why not speak in a more suttle tone. i do agree with you that it is our preference and our opinions on how they are paired up. like for example since Chun is filming with Angela, im not going to be suprised that there would be a thread with this pairing soon if it hasn't been put up already.

all i can say is that when Chun discribed his ideal girl. i can't help but think it is Ella because they have so much chemistry and so many interest and things they like to do together.

now that my HANA KIMI high is over, and right now im all up in the COFFEE PRINCE high lol. suprisingly my feelings for this couple has not changed at all. i very much like them together and i hope to see more works with them...
CEfan4eva
QUOTE(poproxnsoda @ Aug 8 2007 11 23 AM) [snapback]4282160[/snapback]
I personally think that they would make a great couple.They have good chemistry with eachother.AND IF YOU DONT THINK THEY MAKE A GOOD COUPLE TOGETHER,WHATEVER THATS YOUR OPINION.BUT THATS NO REASON TO INSULT ELLA OR CHUN PERSONALLY.THOSE ARE PEOPLES IDOLS FOR GOODNESS SAKE.I KNOW NOT EVERYONE IS GONNA HAVE THE SAME IDOL OR IDEAL COUPLE BUT IF YOU DONT LIKE ANOTHER PERSONS IDOL OR IDEAL COUPLE YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD HAVE A REALLY GOOD RESON WHY(EXAMPLE:I DONT LIKE CHUN BECAUSE HE RAN OVER MY DOG(THIS IS AN EXAMPLE,I DONT REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST CHUN)).IF YOU SAY 'I DONT LIKE CHUN AND ELLA TOGETHER BECAUSE SHE'S TO MANLY AND HE'S TO GIRLY',THAT JUST MAKES PEOPLE THINK YOUR A NARROW MINDED,SHALLOW,IGNORANT PERSON AND ITS ALSO GONNA PISS PEOPLE OFF.VINTAGECHARM!,HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF I SAID YOUR IDOL IS UGLY AND I CANT STAND THE SIGHT OF THEM?YOU'D BE PISSED IF WOULDNT YOU?YOU WOULDNT LIKE IT IF I JUDGED YOUR IDOL BASED ON LOOKS SO STOP JUDGING MY IDOL.ELLA IS NOT UGLY AND I WISH PEOPLE WILL STOP SAYING THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bash.gif angry.gif kakaka.gif emo3.gif irritated.gif
Oh yeah,p.s:Taiwanese Hana-kimi is bomb,and if you dont like it you can go suck a nut.See ya! 57.gif

haha oh darling!! calm down!! i'm here now!! i shall join u!!!

now, i understand why you guys are mad with the pairing, but why must you critisize in such an imature way?? it's really non of your business as to who Chun or Ella chooses to be with, it's their life, not yours. we are just fans who support them as our idols or role models. not everything has to be perfect in your eyes. i know everybody has different opinions, and that's great! but please save the critisizes!! what you guys posted in here was really hurtful and mean. i don't think Chun or Ella would like it if they saw this. i'm just guessing that most of you are Chun fans?? well, if you really are his fans, you should know that Chun HATES people who critisizes other aritists and that his ideal girl doesn't have to be pretty. he prefers cute girls more than pretty ones. and most importantly, he searches for the right 'feel', not their physical appearance.
if you all really are his fans, then the least you could do is stop this mad behaviour and agree with his decisions, whoever he ends up with.
now i ask you this, if you guys don't even respect him, then how can you be his fans?? are you only his fans because he looks hot?? if you are, then you all are really too shallow. if every hot guy in this world ends up with those sexy pretty girls, then does that mean all the ugly people should just go and die??? you may disagree with this pairing and hate the fact that you have to see them together in magazines and dramas, but please, don't critisize! you can worship the pairing of Chun & Ariel or Chun & Gillian all you want!! but just please respect others and don't judge them by how they look!!!! you guys have probably just insulted more than half of the Earth's population by saying this!!
even though i'm an Ella fan, i'm also a Chun fan. and i don't like him because of his looks, i admire him for his caring personality and potential!! he's a great actor and he's really sweet. not many celebrities encourage others to do charity from the bottom of their hearts, but Chun is different. i see him as a very mature and filial man. so as his fan, i know i will always support his decisions and care for him.
and as for Ella, i'm sure you're all saying all those mean things about her because you don't know her at all. i live in Canada, and at first, i really don't give a damn about Taiwanese entertainment or showbiz. i knew that S.H.E existed and they were popular, but then, i just don't care. i don't listen to any of their songs or whatever. but then, my friend introduced me to Hanakimi, and i fell in love with the show. i saw a person called Ella and i admired her greatly. after 2 weeks of finishing the drama, i realized that Ella was in a band called S.H.E. hell, i didn't even know Ella stands for the 'E' in S.H.E. after knowing that she's a singer as well as an actress, i was just intruged. you guys have no idea what sort of person she really is. yes, i did think she looked like a boy at first glance. but after getting to know her, she really grows on you. she never wears heavy make-up like the other celebrities does. and sometimes, she doesn't wear them at all. why? because she wants to show us that a celebrity is just the same as any ordinary human on this planet.
i can assure you that if you make all the Taiwanese celebrities take off their make-up, they won't look as pleasing as they did on that recent magazine cover you saw of them. Ella is lucky she can look flawless and cute without make-up. and have you seen how she looked when she DOES wear make-up??? i myself i a very picky person, and i was surprised that i'm her fan at first. but seriously, if i were a guy, i would totally date her. she looks absolutely gorgeous, inside AND out.
she's also a rarety, she's not at all fake, and she acts the same on cameras and off. which just proves my point that she's one of a kind. but i'm not going to waste my time anymore in explaining these things, you can only understand this if you were her fan. and i'm sure only SOME of you in here are Ella fans.
so i ask of this once more, please keep your critics to yourselves.
and just for the record, i think Ariel & Joe and Gillian & Edison looks A WHOLE LOT better than with Chun. innocent.gif
MadHatter
^ thought you do make valid points, and i must agree to some of them, i do feel that you can't tell people not to say what they feel. it is a forum and this is the critics hang out corner. its for people who want to vent out their frustration on the repeated topics and ask why things are the way they are...

and let me remind you i am an Ella and Wu Zun fan, but then I am neutral to this topic and i already stated that i do feel that they have chemistry. but i will never take it to the extreme if it is going to hurt them.

CEfan4eva
QUOTE(MadHatter @ Aug 8 2007 6 28 PM) [snapback]4283727[/snapback]
^ thought you do make valid points, and i must agree to some of them, i do feel that you can't tell people not to say what they feel. it is a forum and this is the critics hang out corner. its for people who want to vent out their frustration on the repeated topics and ask why things are the way they are...

and let me remind you i am an Ella and Wu Zun fan, but then I am neutral to this topic and i already stated that i do feel that they have chemistry. but i will never take it to the extreme if it is going to hurt them.

oh sorry!!! ur right sweat.gif i think i went too far, haha, just didn't expect people to hate them that much as to make a thread out of it........i'm just a bit dissapointed that they used bad reasons to back off their answers, like saying how Ella is too boyish for Chun.....it's a stupid reason period.....
Michelle.
well it's mostly because of their roles in hana kimi which make ppl like them as a couple
i personally think they were really cute in hana kimi, but they seem more like brother and sister
they seem like good friends but i don't think they are each other's types
either way, people have different perspectives, so just let it be
shellstah__
I like them together... pretty cute IMO. I really like their chemistry.. whether on-screen or off-screen.
Though I find it quite immature to not like Ella just because she's "manly". LOL I believe it's called tomboy.
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i'm not letting ella's boyish fingers on him

I feel sorry for people like you.

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I really wanna see Chun wit Gillian though... XD

Gillian is too feminine!! ROFLMAO
kino_
It's okay that you don't like the pairing of this couple. But why must you say something like, Ella is too boyish, and WHAT? boyish fingers? Don't tell me you look for perfect couple by appearance ONLY? Then what if you are ugly, you can't look for cute guys as your boyfriend eh? It's the feel, FEEL!

I am someone who doesn't really like one couple to be together just by the drama.

Just like when I watch Devil Beside You, I really like mike and rainie together, but that was in the drama only. Because I can't find the right feel between them outside of the drama, so I nv get into them. And from what I believe, what I saw in drama, the FEELS, are all DRAMA, they are FAKE, they are plotted out. So I won't judge the feelings between them from the drama.

But as for CE, I can feel chemistry btw them from the promotion period. Therefore I started liking CE as a couple. I also ask myself b4, when did I start to like CE pairing? Did I just get the feeling from the drama, thus moving it on the the real world? But no, I realised that I like CE after watching those promotion shows. In my CE pictures folder, most of them are not from the drama. So i'm more convinced that I like them not because of the drama.

Sorry. But did I say too much?
WuZunEllaCute
You never say too much kino.. i agree wif u... my folders too have many pics of Ella & Chun...
Their relationship is very different. Their expressions of each other can tell the difference!!! It's not fake either and they are COMPATIBLE!!!
fahrenheit2012
I know everybody says that Ella is too boyish-like so she and Wu Zun doesn't match. Well sometimes Ella gives people two feelings and that is a boyish feeling and femine feeling. If u don't really know her, u would probably just say that she's too boyish and doesn't match Wu Zun, but once u get to know her more, you'll see that she has a femine side too. I don't like it when people just say that "I don't like Ella cuz she's too boyish-like". That's not a reason, u can't tell someone by their appearance so next time when u say u hate Ella, please list a reason why.

My feeling about Wu Zun and Ella's relationship is that it's unique. It's not like anyone else. It's not only becuz of Hana Kimi but when i see them together during promotions, making mv, and behind-the-scenes. i saw how they got along with each other and they give me the feeling as a couple. I can see that they are really compatible so whoever thinks that they don't look together, please list a better reason of why they aren't a good couple instead reasons like "Ella looks like a boy so they shouldn't be a couple."

I don't mind if there are people that dislike the pairing of Wu Zun and Ella but please don't insult them. They were only filming a drama and they're were fans that got attracted by them and saw how compatible they were so we think that they should be a couple.
WuZunEllaCute
I HATE TO SEE PEOPLE CRITIZING ON OTHERS.... THAT IS WU ZUN OR ELLA BUSINESS ON WHO IS THEIR PAIRING ARE.. BUT THEN HOW CAN U ALL CAN INSULT THEM LIKE THAT!!!!! U ALL R SO RUDE... IF U R CHUN FAN AND U SAY LIKE THIS, I THINK U R NOT TRULY HIS FAN...COZ HE DON'T LIKE PEOPLE TO CRITIZE ABT OTHERS TOO!!! HE IS THE PERSON WHO'S CARING ABOUT OTHERS..PLEASE THINK TWICE BEFORE U SAY OR JUDGE ON OTHER ARTISTES... U R ALSO NOT PERFECT OF YOURSELF EITHER... AND HOW CAN U SAY THAT ELLA IS UGLY... SHE'S THE PRETTIEST WOMAN I'VE SEEN...SHE'S CARING TOWARD OTHERS AND SHE HAVE A UNIQUE PERSONALITY... IF U HATE HER, DON JUST SAY ABT HER ANYHOW.. IF U NOTICE & TRY TO UNDERSTAND HER... MAYBE ONE DAY SHE'S GROWN ON YOU WITHOUT NOTICING IT... WU ZUN SAID THAT HE LIKES THE WOMAN NOT ABT HER APPEARANCE BUT ON 'FEELING'... I AM CE FANS & I DON WISH TO FIGHT WITH U ALL EITHER!!! SO NEXT TIME WHEN U WANT TO POST HERE SAYING RUDE THINGS ABT OTHER ARTISTES, SEE UR OWNSELVES FIRST BEFORE JUDGING THEM.. LEARN TO RESPECT OTHERS...COZ WHATEVER U SAY ABT OTHERS, THAT IS WHAT IT REFLECT URSELF, MANNER & BEHAVIOUR!!!! CHUN & ELLA FOREVER!!!!!!
TheBalls26
i hav nothing against the Wu Zun Ella pairing and i watched every episode of Hana Kimi but they DEFINITELY are not cute together
maybe its Ella's tomboyish looks or something but to me they just seem weird as a couple (i didnt like Hana Kimi)
just_ella
i actually don't like the pairing chun ella tooo...

sometimes chun looks like a woman to me...
he's not as skilled as Ella...

Rin.
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I KNOW NOT EVERYONE IS GONNA HAVE THE SAME IDOL OR IDEAL COUPLE BUT IF YOU DONT LIKE ANOTHER PERSONS IDOL OR IDEAL COUPLE YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD HAVE A REALLY GOOD RESON WHY(EXAMPLE:I DONT LIKE CHUN BECAUSE HE RAN OVER MY DOG(THIS IS AN EXAMPLE,I DONT REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST CHUN)).IF YOU SAY 'I DONT LIKE CHUN AND ELLA TOGETHER BECAUSE SHE'S TO MANLY AND HE'S TO GIRLY',THAT JUST MAKES PEOPLE THINK YOUR A NARROW MINDED,SHALLOW,IGNORANT PERSON AND ITS ALSO GONNA PISS PEOPLE OFF

lol.. is it weird if think that not liking the pairing because one reckons that wuzun is too girly and ella is too boyish is a better reason than not liking the pairing because wuzun ran over your dog? o__o; either way..

I'm sorry if my previous response to this topic made you think i was bashing on either wu zun or ella.. because i said that ella's role in HANA KIMI was boyish. but come on.. she was MEANT to be playing a "boy" in a boy school. I fully understand that.

I only dont like ella IN hana kimi playing the role of a boy (so convincingly) ~ but other than that, i think she's great. She's a great actor to actually make me BELIEVE she's a tomboy, and also she's a great singer too. I have nothing against her at all.

All i'm saying, is that probably the only reason i'd like them as a pairing is purely because of hana kimi (and i tend to fall in love with many pairings in shows) ~ but if i rated them as a couple against, say ISWAK or DBY ;; i don't think CE make a good pairing.
kino_
haha... i was about to say that too.. sometimes Chun looks ...well..sissy to me.
so when lissy24 said "i'm not letting ella's boyish fingers on him"
I kinda... wanna say "I'm not letting Chun's sissy fingers on her as well!"
LOL..
I actually don't like Chun, but I found out that he's actually quite a nice (i mean personality) guy. So i don't dislike him anymore. It's just 'some' of his gestures that seems "lady" to me.

Am I off-topic?

back to topic...

You should not critise them!!!
MadHatter
alright, i do know that this topic is discussed over and over again, but then what is seriously the deal here? do some of you people have something againsn't tom boys or something? because i myself am a tom boy but then i dress up here and there. just because she has short hair makes her look boyish? then explain to me about Sammi Cheung, she has short hair. does that make her look like a tomboy? how about mirimia or whatever her bloody name is.

just because of the appearance from the outside, does not change the persons personality and feelings on the inside. so stop judging from the outside only and look at her shining and glowing personality. that is why i find her so compatable with Wu Zun not because i am a fan of her and him, is because in the short amount of time they were filming, she hit it off with him from the very start, she changed him to be more out there, more happy and more crazy. unlike before when he was more stiff and conservative.

WuZunEllaCute

I do agree with you but then i must point out several things that are wrong with your posts.

1. your capitalization. must you really capaitalize the whole post to make it stand out and angry? personally as i stated i do agree with what you have to say, but then try to be more discrete and mature about it. the way you handled it was slightly immature like a little kid crying for candy.

2. you should really read through the entire thread before you make claims that "WE ALL" think that they are not a compatable couple. from what i see, its only a few. while the others are defending that they do have chemistry.
*hypengyophobia
They look cute individually but I don't really think they are cute together...
I liked the first few episodes of HK but after a while Ella's 'shocked' face which I think was cute at first seemed quite irritating.. So I kinda lost interest in HK... =S I don't really think their looks are compatible with each other but maybe their personalities do and that's why CE fans love them?? 0_o But I have nothing against them (I like both Fahrenheit and SHE)..
Aspire
I don't see a need to dislike Ella because she is tomboyish. The character in Hana Kimi is SUPPOSED to act like a guy! Honestly, other than Ella I really don't see any other actresses who are suitable. I was glad that she was picked to play this role though. I think CE make a great couple, but I do not want to see them ALWAYS! I'm rooting for Chun+Angela because I think it would be nice to see a new pairing together. Just like how I want to see Mike+Hebe in their new show, because too much of Mike+Rainie bores me as well. lol.gif

Some fangirls do not like to see Chun with another girl because they support CE so much? I'd gotta say, be flexible. And those fangirls who dislike CE because they want Chun themselves? Hahahaha... that is shallow. CE have a better chance to become real than you+Chun! lol.gif
lisajayne
Okay, just as much as you don't get why people think Chun and Ella are cute together, there are just as much people who don't. So it's a matter of a person's personal taste. You may find it disturbing to see C&E as cute but to others they Really are cute together...

Well, I can't see how that COLOR or any mags can not publish pictures of C&E together, it is also a way of promotion their series. Even if you didn't like the pics or the series, the production company would want them to have promo pics. Even if people don't like seeing it, it makes you notice it, right.... so seeing it, will make you think of the series as well
CEfan4eva
QUOTE(MadHatter @ Aug 9 2007 6 02 AM) [snapback]4286028[/snapback]
alright, i do know that this topic is discussed over and over again, but then what is seriously the deal here? do some of you people have something againsn't tom boys or something? because i myself am a tom boy but then i dress up here and there. just because she has short hair makes her look boyish? then explain to me about Sammi Cheung, she has short hair. does that make her look like a tomboy? how about mirimia or whatever her bloody name is.

just because of the appearance from the outside, does not change the persons personality and feelings on the inside. so stop judging from the outside only and look at her shining and glowing personality. that is why i find her so compatable with Wu Zun not because i am a fan of her and him, is because in the short amount of time they were filming, she hit it off with him from the very start, she changed him to be more out there, more happy and more crazy. unlike before when he was more stiff and conservative.

i totally agree with you on this, i was about to add this part to my first post, but then it was too long already... blush.gif
ok, not trying to be biased here, but i have an increadibly huge admiration for tomboys. to me, they seem so much more real and not fake. just because one was born a girl, doesn't mean that they can't gain some personality traits of a boy. and personally, i think tomboys normally have a MUCH better figure than girly girls. tomboys are usually very modest people, for they hide their beauty with baggy clothes and jeans. they don't care how others look at them, thus having confidence in themselves and are happy with who they are. i'm not saying ALL tomboys are like them, but the majority, because i've met a lot of tomboys in my lifetime and they are all really amazing people.
like Ella, she has a GREAT figure, if any of you say so otherwise , i can guarentee that i won't believe you. when she dresses up in tight clothes for once and in dresses, you can see how sexy she really is. if any other 'normal' girls had a body like hers, they would probably wear skimpy and slutty clothes everyday just to show off their great curves. but Ella's different, she hides her outer beauty and lets us know her inner beauty first!! that's why Ella fans are all so loyal, because we don't like her for her looks and body at first glance, we fell in love with her from her personality first, and THEN we got to know her physical and outer beauty. if you sometimes imagine Ella with long hair, i swear it'll have a completely different result. she'll look even more beautiful. and just for the record, why won't you just photoshop all the other long haired beauties in this entertainment circle and make their hair as short as Ella's??? i swear that half of them won't look as good as Ella in short hair!!!! innocent.gif
no offence, but i feel sorry for Chun. i can swear that 88% of his fans, 95% of them being girls, they were attracted to him by ONLY his looks. most of them still only support him for his looks even now!!! but only some got to know his personality afterwards and loved him even more. i don't know about you guys, but if i were him and my fans only liked me for my looks, then i would feel VERY unstable. because people age and we can't stay pretty forever, one of these days, Chun's gonna be OLD and won't look as hot as he does today. that's exactly why handsome boy celebs must avoid letting their relationships to be exposed as much as they can. because once the public knows that their not single anymore, they'll loose half of their fans. it's a horrible risk.
and for those of you that said Ella and Chun's personalities match, but not their looks, then please let me defend this cruel reason. i agree with you that RuiXi's expressions may seem irritating at times, but you know what? that's exactly what the director asked of. and yes, even if it was supposed to be like that, it gets on your nerves sometimes. but Ella has gained weight during that time in filming Hanakimi, because she was overwhelmed by a lot of stress. at first glance, you would think that there's no way someone as handsome and good-looking as Chun can go with THAT. but come on!! everybody gains fat once in a while!!! and did you guys see how Ella looked at the golden bells award and the recent mandarin awards with Andy Lau??? even without make-up, these days, she looks super awesome. again, i'm not being biased here. she's lost a lot of weight, but not purposely, it's because of her health problems and again, stress.
i see her and Chun in color magazines too, and i have to say it's one of the reasons why i love them, it's one of the proofs that they LOOK cute together. maybe in Hanakimi, it was too much to ask for everybody to say they look cute. but you have to admit, they DO look compatible on their looks AND personality.
don't make me post an image in here...........oh heck, i'll just post it anyway to back up my reasons.

http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledqi9.jpg

i'm sorry to piss some of you off with this pic, but believe me, i did NOT just post it up to make you all hate Ella or Chun more than you already are. i personally love this picture because it is PROOF that they DO in fact look good together. they remind me of University students in here, and they both look so mature. this is why i'm a CE fan, because the both of them are able to give off all sort of different types of feelings. they can act cute, passionate, chaste, goofy, open, and mature. and they'd pull it right off with just the right amount of mood, why? because they really DO feel very comfortable with each other, and the both of them are anything BUT fake.

and if some of you are still reacting towards them with much hatred, than please give us a good reason on their personalities rather than looks. it gets lame, always saying how she's too boyish and not femine enough for Chun....no seriously, i would think you guys can think of a way better reason than that. it's pathetic, really.
Kayem
I don't like them together either...Again, nothing against either one of them, but physically...It's just awkward.
01S0ULL
i think Chun and Ella are more of a brother and sister kinda couple. not like Mike & Rainie or Joe and Ariel . there's just a different feel in them . i dont know . XD . i personally didnt think Hana Kimi was that great xX"
just_ella
CEfan4eva, i can see that you're a big big fan of CHun and Ella together...

but the thing is that..
it's your opinion thinking that CE are cute together..
there are other people don't think that they are cute together..(not including me)..

i don't care they are cute together or not...

if you are trying to defend your opinion and proving, i guess you're wasting your time typing all those words and in the end other people still don't change their minds?...

plus..,this is a crtics hang out box....people's opinion and comments are all in here........you shouldn't defend back.
tdrama*addict
QUOTE(01S0ULL @ Aug 9 2007 10 48 PM) [snapback]4288756[/snapback]
i think Chun and Ella are more of a brother and sister kinda couple. not like Mike & Rainie or Joe and Ariel . there's just a different feel in them . i dont know . XD . i personally didnt think Hana Kimi was that great xX"


i have the same feeling..they are more of brother and sister playful type to me..doesn't erally give me that 'oh..so sweet..awww' feel..at least i found Chun giving me more of a couple feel with Ariel than with Ella..i mean i like Chun and Ella..both are very good actors/actress..but just i dont think they match..just my opinion~~
CEfan4eva
QUOTE(just_ella @ Aug 10 2007 3 08 AM) [snapback]4290282[/snapback]
CEfan4eva, i can see that you're a big big fan of CHun and Ella together...

but the thing is that..
it's your opinion thinking that CE are cute together..
there are other people don't think that they are cute together..(not including me)..

i don't care they are cute together or not...

if you are trying to defend your opinion and proving, i guess you're wasting your time typing all those words and in the end other people still don't change their minds?...

plus..,this is a crtics hang out box....people's opinion and comments are all in here........you shouldn't defend back.

yes i understand, but that long post was also my opinion as well. i know that not everyone likes Chun and Ella together, and i know that this is a critics hang out box. i'm not saying it's wrong to dislike them. but it's not wrong to defend them either. and i LIKE typing all those words, i don't care if they don't change anyone's minds. but if they do, then that's great. i'm only doing this to clear some things out, i don't expect that it'll change your minds. besides, some of the people here are talking crap about Ella and i can't have that. you can't expect this whole thread to have people saying injustice things right? there has to be some that defends AND critisizes.
t163
I... actually don't think they look cute together
they're okay... like chun witha riel, ar chun with angela aor chun with anywho and ella with anyone
they're okay.. not SUPER cute..
I stopped watching hanikimi in eps.6 though, dunno why but there's something... "missing"
don't get me wrong, I like chun and I also like Ella
but... for them to be together in a lifetime, it feels... weird... *shrugs*
as for the boyish ella in hanakimi, what else to say? she supposed to disguise as a boy there...
they're okay there, but I'm looking forward for more options of pairing
not only Chun-Ella...
Rin.
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Plz respect others decisions even though u don't like it!!!! Only stupid & idiotic people think that way...


Please respect our decision that they dont look cute together

because they don't

well not to me anyway

Defend away, but it won't change anything. And if we (the non CE - Fans) respect your decision (by not criticizing you and telling you you're "idiotic and stupid" by liking them) then you should respect ours.

Ahh, not trying to start anything here, but it's just that.
I don't think CE look good together, and if you wanted me to justify my decision, then i guess they didnt look good together in Hana Kimi BECAUSE i dont like the idea of 2 guys getting together and to me, ella was very convincing as a guy in hana kimi. The end. (and yes i know she's a girl. still, doesnt change the way i perceived her character and her now - and 'sides, im not a ella-hater o__o; so.. yeah. that wasnt meant to be offending her in any way, she's a good actress, i cant help it.)
t163
ahaha.. actually I have to agrred that 'lebian' thingy is kinda too harsh, i mean... lol
how can you say that she looks like one?
and I like the word "It's like telling the fruitseller that his apples are not tasty because it's not red enough."
It does make sense
although I don't like them to be together (or at least don't think that they look cute together)
but I never thought that she looks like a les...
she looks tomboyish with her short hair, but it's not a big matter to me
she's still cute... hehe...
Aspire
I don't think most of the posts here are offensive, only some reasons posted are not generally tolerable. I'd say, it's up to how people see CE as a couple. The opinions are rather extreme seeing that Ella's image often gives people the wrong thought about her.

I am impressed that Ella was able to pull off her role as a guy in Hana Kimi, however, that still doesn't change the fact that she is not a lesbian in nature. Although in the show it's like two 'guys' being placed together, I'm not bothered by it. I could still see their chemistry, how Ella got embarrassed every now and then when Chun was there. And how Chun tried to protect her whenever the silly her got into trouble. lol.gif

QUOTE(WuZunEllaCute)
Actually i'm not saying u all here 'idiotic and stupid'... it's just that i feel the way u all describe artiste like that is like being selfish & u urself only saying the truth... it doesn't matter if u say that Chun & Ella does not look cute together or whatever it is.... i don't ask for u to like them but ur (i mean others in this thread) criticizing is really RUDE!!!! i feel the moment i step in this thread is like meeting a bunch of thoughtless and mean peoples... someone that doesn't have any sense kind of humour... i respect ur decisions here but i can't stand the way u criticize artiste in that manner... i really feel that u r really pathetic... as if u r too perfect already!!! sorry but i just can't help it!!!

Criticizing is not necessarily rude. If you were referring to Rin.'s post, I don't see any rudeness in his/her post, and instead, he/she gets YOUR rudeness back in return. How fair is that? I don't think you wholeheartedly respect other people's views although you stressed that a few times.

And you were saying the people who posted here are thoughtless and mean?
Look... why do you have to care about what people think of CE? You like them, you support them. People don't, let them be. Why would you let these so-called "thoughtless and mean" people disturb you so much? lol.gif
WuZunEllaCute
I'm apologised if my words is too harsh and rude to all of you here... i admit i'm also a human that make mistakes...me myself not saying that i'm too perfect... it's just that the 1st page comments is very rude... i'm biased with them saying like that...other comments i can accept it, but they(others, on the 1st page) insulting Ella very rudely!!! I can understand that Ella have to act as a guy in Hana Kimi coz her character is being like that... but need they say that Ella is a lesbian?? i just can't see why they should say that Ella is a lesbian?? To me, if they hate Ella so much, must they treat Ella in such a way?? They should at least respect her as an artiste, i also hate Ariel at first but i never insult her like that...now i'm beginning to like her... I just want to say that please think before making an insult to other artiste, even if you don't like them!! Like us, they also have feelings... They are so dissapointed if they saw this thread... i hope u guys here understand what i'm trying to say...please don't get me wrong... i'm really really sorry if my words that on my last post is really harsh and rude... coz i can't help it...
Aspire
QUOTE(WuZunEllaCute @ Aug 12 2007 8 35 PM) [snapback]4299052[/snapback]
it's just that the 1st page comments is very rude... i'm biased with them saying like that...other comments i can accept it, but they(others, on the 1st page) insulting Ella very rudely!!! I can understand that Ella have to act as a guy in Hana Kimi coz her character is being like that... but need they say that Ella is a lesbian?? i just can't see why they should say that Ella is a lesbian?? To me, if they hate Ella so much, must they treat Ella in such a way?? They should at least respect her as an artiste, i also hate Ariel at first but i never insult her like that...now i'm beginning to like her... I just want to say that please think before making an insult to other artiste, even if you don't like them!! Like us, they also have feelings... They are so dissapointed if they saw this thread...

Well, if you would have worded your posts properly in the first place then there would not have been so many arguments. I do agree with your point however. I find that the reason that CE is not supported because of Ella, mainly criticized by WuZun fans. I have no implication of talking about ALL WuZun fans, but some are like that. It's kinda unfair in my opinion. Some extreme fans are actually jealous that Ella gets to act with WuZun and they bash Ella for the most lame reasons.
MadHatter
QUOTE(WuZunEllaCute @ Aug 12 2007 8 35 AM) [snapback]4299052[/snapback]
I'm apologised if my words is too harsh and rude to all of you here... i admit i'm also a human that make mistakes...me myself not saying that i'm too perfect... it's just that the 1st page comments is very rude... i'm biased with them saying like that...other comments i can accept it, but they(others, on the 1st page) insulting Ella very rudely!!! I can understand that Ella have to act as a guy in Hana Kimi coz her character is being like that... but need they say that Ella is a lesbian?? i just can't see why they should say that Ella is a lesbian?? To me, if they hate Ella so much, must they treat Ella in such a way?? They should at least respect her as an artiste, i also hate Ariel at first but i never insult her like that...now i'm beginning to like her... I just want to say that please think before making an insult to other artiste, even if you don't like them!! Like us, they also have feelings... They are so dissapointed if they saw this thread... i hope u guys here understand what i'm trying to say...please don't get me wrong... i'm really really sorry if my words that on my last post is really harsh and rude... coz i can't help it...

to me, i hardly find your post "harsh" i find it more rude and disrespectful more then anything. you are also human, and so are we, but going one direction and then switching off and goign the entirely opposite way more then one time is a pretty big error in my opinion.

so what if the first page comment is rude. doesn't mean you have to be immature and fire back at them. its still there opinion in the matter. everyone is bias here and there whether they admit it or not, but for these situation you should take a neutral standpoint and see it from 2 ways. feel free to ask questions and pin point what is there REAL reason for hating the pair. not so much the surface dirt.

they say Ella is a lesbian because they dont know her, they dont like her always short hair. they don't like how she doesn't dress up like a doll, they don't like her for being all over the place. there are many reasons. and plus what? her voice is a little low? hell. just to throw that one in as well.

but to true fans, it should not concern us, because we love her for who she is. she isn't "acting cute" in front of the camera or trying her hardest to be the most prettiest...she knows her flaws and accepts them. that is what some of those who "hate" need to realize.

no you can help it. but you chose not to.

i even doubt it has to do with her being able to act with him.

seriously think about it.

Ariel acted with WuZun and she didn't get bashed?
Angela Zhang acted with WuZun and she didn't get bashed?

lol...doesn't that jsut throw the theory out the window slightly?
*lingalicious*
MODBREAK

hey hey everyone, just to keep things back in pace. remember that you should keep your posts off the offensive side yea? also to let you guys know that this thread doesnt run unread by mods. so please keep to the safe side by steering away from offensive posts ok? smile.gif

please dont capitalise your posts as well. further capitalised posts will be deleted without hesistation.

thank you!
WayyliEn
yea...its kinda annoying for me to hear "oh, ella and chun would make the best couple!". its only because they've been on hana kimi together and it was a hit show. once chun gets into another drama was another girl, they'll be like "oh...____and chun!" and it won't be ella anymore.
MadHatter
QUOTE(WayyliEn @ Aug 13 2007 11 08 AM) [snapback]4305616[/snapback]
yea...its kinda annoying for me to hear "oh, ella and chun would make the best couple!". its only because they've been on hana kimi together and it was a hit show. once chun gets into another drama was another girl, they'll be like "oh...____and chun!" and it won't be ella anymore.

that doesn't make sense.

how annoying is it?
you don't see people saying

WUZUN and ARIEL are annoying nor do you see anyone saying WUZUN and ANGELA are annoying.

i think its more of a factor that ELLA doesn't look like a "girly girl" that bothers people because the fans all feel that WUZUN deserves a "girly girl" or even the fan, for a girlfriend.

i do feel that both sides are wrong for even thinking of imagining what his future GF or partner should be. but fans will be fans.
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