People are going on,"Oh my god! Wu Zun is so handsome!"

Is handsome the only thing? Some of my close friends are crazy fans of his, and I can tell that they go crazy for his looks, instead of talents. Come to think of it, I don't think he has much talents. He can act, yes, to some people. 'cause I find his acting real stiff and he looks awkward on TV, I just don't like it, but then again, it might be just me.

I can't say much about singing since I hardly ever hear him sing. Plus he's in a boy group, it's hard to hear his solo. But occasionally I do hear him sing, and I think he's far too bad in singing. Being new is no excuse 'cause his off-key-ness is too much.

Another thing is his fans. Sometimes, they irritate me like hell. C'mon, they are like, not able to live through an hour without speaking his name, and it's really annoying.

What do you think?

Well he is really cute but I don't really like how he trys to get in the camera too much but hey which celeb isn't like that?!

Yes and it does get kinda annoying when people around you talk about them a lot so you can do what i do, talk about aaron or jiro!!LOLS!

I dont really like him but I dont hate him...he is okay looking i guess but he really isnt THAT appealing to me. when i check on AF news, I've been hearing alot of news about him lately as solo more then other members in FLH, and FLH..I also seen he been getting alot of dramas/movies lately too..no offense, or anything but like what Jen1113 said "I don't really like how he trys to get in the camera too much but hey which celeb isn't like that?!" I just think he is been getting alot of promotion lately trying to get into the camera. i agree with Jen1113 on this one I dont really like either....but every celebrity wants to be popular..

well i do like him but just have to say i agree rockerrofmylife with the comment on the fans...
i liked him much more when he first debuted with frh and was quite unknown...
now he's so popular he seems to be talked about everywhere and some fans get so hyped sometimes which can be really annoying

Erm... I don't know if my post will be suitable for topic, because I don't hate Chun, in fact I like him, but I am annoyed that he is always being highlighted in news, negative news to be exact...

A lot of people initiated speculations about FRH disbanding because Chun wants to leave and go solo... I don't agree with that, because it is like putting the blame on him... if a group disbands, this will come across with a lot of discussion and agreement, a member just can't say he/she wants to leave, then he/she leaves... Even if one day FRH disbands, everyone has the responsible, not just only Chun, or Jiro, or the manager, or whoever else... so I don't really like it when all those news claim that he is like the cause of something negative...

And, I am surprised that even the simplest thing he does will be magnified by people... just earlier, there is a news saying how the reporters caught him digging his nose... seriously, WHO ON EARTH DOESN'T dig his/her nose? So what if he does dig/touch his nose?

So in conclusion, my view is the same as the people above me, that I have nothing against him, but just annoyed that he is being accused because of minor reasons...

^ LOL digging his nose? wow that gets the media's attention?
but i dnt like the fact either that wuzun is always singled out and the one thats blamed...cos that in effect gets the fans more riled up...

Its not really him but his fans that bother me too. His acting is terrible and his singing is even worse but I constantly hear his fans going, "He is so multi-talented! He is a natural born actor! A great singer! He deserves to be where he is today!" Uh... no. The only thing he is is overrated... overhyped. He is okay looking... sure... and nice?... I will give you that... but his personality (or lack of) is a huge turn off. That guy is as dull as dirt. How some of his fans pretend that he is special for qualities other than his face annoys me to no end...

^ yeh i get that some of his fans really overrate and hype him up.
i think he does have personality tho...at first he was mostly quiet cos he was new to the industry but he has really come outta his shell a lot now and u see a different more fun side of him.
i would say he is good at acting tho..not the best but good for a newbie.
and as for the singing...if its bad or woteva...u cnt deny he isnt multi-talented. successful business man, model, actor, singer...
he's trying out different things and tho he may not be fantastic its an experience i guess.

I don't let other people mold or have an influence in my opinion about celebrities. I agree that Wu Zun's fangirls can be annoying, but why let them change what you have to think? Screw them, I say.

Personally, I like Wu Zun, but I do not fool myself into thinking he's a super-talented demigod. His singing is below average and depending on the series his acting is ok. But he's cute and has a nice body.

okie, i am one of wu zun fans but i wont come in and say how much i like him..

I just have some opinion of wat is being discussed... I agreed that he is very over-rated at the moment and i can understand some people are getting annoyed with everyone around them going on and on with wu zun...

BUT i just felt that it is really unfair for him to be bashed here because of sth that he did not do.

First, people said that he is annoying because he is featured in newspaper very frequently but most of the news about him are negative news which i think he also dont wan to be featured in... eg: news of him wanted to go solo,news on him getting bald, news on him digging nose and the media even question his sex life.... (if u stand in his point of view, do u think he wanted all these news on him to be on newspaper... its the media that wanted to feature him.. they follow him everyway and he already lose a lot of freedom... then when negative news about him come out, he has to come out and explain...)

Then, about his fans crazy behaviour... he is also a victim... obviously who wants ur fans to be so violant and even scold the other three members of fahrenheit... wu zun already said in his blog and ask his fans to be more obedient and respect his brothers and the crew members because by the end of the day, its not the fans who get bashed but he will be the one ...

Everyone is saying things about him being on the news frequently and his fans quarreling with other fans... then people start to dislike him just because he is being reported and because his fans do stupid things... I felt that its kinda unfair for him .. He is already under a lot of pressure when media saying untruth things about him, when his fans are not obedient. adding to that, people that likes him start to dislike him or like him less because of the things that he himself doesnt wan to happen... so if everyone just at least stand in his point of view n see fr his point of view.. he is also one of the victim. he is stress enough recently so i hope we can stop criticising him on the things that the media and his fans did.. if u guys want to say sth that he did then its fine coz u can blame him on that but if its on the media and wat his fans do ... then please spare him from reading these negative comment on him....

well, i just want to voice out my opinion because i felt bad that some people are pushing all the blame on him on sth that he didnt do.... (plus i just read his blog entry and felt he is really stress out so stop adding more stress to his current stress level)

ok, please dont scold me or anything cause this is just my personal opinion.....

I have seen this supposedly "fun" side of him and I still find him boring and uninteresting... but that is just my opinion. I would hardly call what I have seen of his singing and acting "talent" and modeling?... unless he is a top model, I don't agree that looking nice qualifies as talent either. I do think that he is relatively intelligent and successful in business, but do I think that means that he is multi-talented? Not unless everyone else is. Good for him for trying out different things, but unless he is actually good in any of the things that he is trying for... I don't think that he is deserving of any praise, at least yet.

Pretty neutral about him, he's pretty average in every aspect.
Just like many other popular celebrities nowadays, people tend to hate the fans more than the person himself. Kind of sad...Really...Sorry for not actually contributing anything.

I guess I dislike him in the fact that he's so popular but doesn't have any talent to back himself up. That though isn't his fault and there are many other talentless people who are loved as well. So I really don't have much to say about him.

okay, first of all, which celebrity doesn't get dissed? If he can't take it, what for be a celebrity? it is like, there is no celebrity that everyone likes okay? plus, the media says ALL SORTS of untrue things about other artistes as well. do you think other artistes like it as well? i think he really has to know that being a celebrity, you must be able to take things like people saying something untrue about you. ask yourself, did you dislike any artistes? if no, fine. but i believe someone around you WOULD have some artistes they do not like. or even, hate. ask any artiste you like,"have the media ever said something untrue about you before?" i think that no one's answer would be,"no." it is kind of like natural that untrue things like that are being mentioned. and of course, which celerity wants to be in those negative news? which celebrity doesn't come out to explain? that, is a price of fame. you want to be famous, you lose your private life. i don't believe he doesn't know it.

do you know about show luo and his past?(sorry, i know it is kinda off-topic) from what i've known(well, i am not exactly a fan of him so i don't know much), it has been like at least 10 years since he gained fame. and about his past, i've read from articles that his boss was biased towards other members of some group they formed together and even compared him with 5566. some rumours were also spread about him&tony(from 5566). saying that they hated each other or something? i am not sure as well. but i know that even the manager claimed him as '过气艺人'. say, how much have your wu zun endured as compared to show?

plus, it is kind of true when they say wu zun can't sing well and his acting is so-so. even some of his fans admitted that. but those are critics, constructive ones. though some of them aren't, they are really harsh. please, if he wants everybody to say(which i don't think he will),"oh my, wu zun, your singing is excellent!and so is your dancing! and your acting is always the best!" ask him to go home and sleep. constructive critics are good for all artistes, though i admit some anti-fans are really going over the line. yet some, though they might be criticizing him, they said it in a way where they respected him. and not something like,"wu zun singing sucks." or whatever.

and no one is blaming him for something he didn't do. what, tell me he didn't dig his nose? please! i don't believe it unless you tell me he was born an hour ago!

why don't he try to read those critics and reflect? i admit, anyone would be hurt when they hear people saying they suck but as i have repeated many times, there ARE constructive critics around. why don't he try to stand at OUR point of view? who likes to see someone untalented(well, some think he IS untalented) getting so famous and popular for nothing just because of looks?

you said you've read his blog entry and he is really stressed. who wouldn't be stressed out? no matter the reason, EVERYONE would be stressed. it is not like he got depression or something. well, some artistes are suffering from depression as well...


You said,"

BUT i just felt that it is really unfair for him to be bashed here because of sth that he did not do.

"

what did he not do and someone 'accused' him of doing?


this is my opinion as well, don't get offended.

Ok Ok, I know what u meant. Erm.. how do i put it... I am just saying that people like us who doesnt really know wat is going on shouldnt come around and criticise him because (not only him) but all the other artist also suffer enough fr the media so why he has to even get criticise by the public... well i guess if he is an artist then he has to accept this as well...

about him digging his nose, i am not saying that he never does that but the picture that he was accused for digging his nose and not washing his hand after that is just exagerating because the accusation is based on a picture that doesnt looks like it at all.

plus his blog said that the thing he felt unfair is not the media or watever, it is because he said that now even if he does the same thing that he does before, people around him gets very sensitive and said that he has changed because he is famous... he is sad because of wat the people thinks of him. even when he did sth that he did before, but in the past no one says anything and now just because he is famous, doing the same thing doesnt get the same reaction from other people already and that is why he felt the unfairness and he does understand that he can to endure with all these..

erm. i am not v sure about wat u say about show.. i mean i heard bout him with the manager problem and until now wan quan yu le even cut him out fr appearing on their news. the other day when jolin,stanley,rainee and him was interviewed, wan yu went and interview .. they aired the interview but didnt show Show at all... so wat exactly happen? sorry i know this is kinda off topic but i am curious because it seems like until now they are still not on good terms...

thanks for telling me about the accusation thing.

Yes, i do not know a lot about wu zun as i don't search for his news or read his blog like his fans does, i admit. but why can't we criticise him? i watched his MVs, listened to his songs(or rather, their) and i don't think that he has performed that well at all. as i've mentioned loads of times before in my previous post, he HAS TO improve. i mean seriously, don't tell me someone would like it when some untalented people are famous and popular just because they look good!

you see, this is the critics section. almost all of the artistes got criticised. are you telling me that all the other celebrities are not stressed out when the media spread rumours about them AND the public ALSO criticised them. it is like they are same as him right? some celebrities also said that they must change themselves after beoming famous. he is not the only one. and he has a lot of fans, darling. while some does not. don't you think they deserve more sympathy, if you're comparing in this way?


*DEFINITELY OFF-TOPIC, SORRYY!*
about the show&his manager thing, i am not sure.but from what i've read, i definitely hated that manager. he is always putting down other artistes. he said something bad about almost everyone, but show was the worse one if i am not wrong. 183Club,F4,5566,Fahrenheit,Lollipop these boybands are being so called dissed by him. there is even a thread for dissing him. lol.

no no.. i mean everyone can critise him in his performance at work or his attitude. I am just saying we shouldnt criticise him because he is on the news very frequently or because some stuff that his fans does bcoz i read some people mention that they dislike him bcoz of wat his fans did or bcoz he has high exposure on news... so if u wan to say anything bout his singing and acting or watever then its fine coz i think he cant sing that well too...

and its about about him wanting to change after he got famous. he just felt that even he did the same action or say the same thing now, the reaction from the people around him is different (compare to the reaction that he gets before he got this famous)

and i definitely think he got too much fans now which suddenly pop out of nowhere. i mean how can he get so famous fr hana kimi.. this is sth i dont really understand coz i think da dong performance in the show is better... and i think i am happier when he wasnt this famous but obviously i cant stop people fr liking him but i just dont know why some fans can like him just bcoz they see him in a drama and they didnt even bother knowing him as a person.

did the manager said sth bad bout 5566 and 183.. they are under his management.
i know he criticise F4, fahrenheit and lollipop and in bad terms with show.. thats why show can never go to san lih to promote his stuff i heard.. and 5566 and 183 also dont go to GTV

l use to like him but now i think he is okay because i seen him too much on the news

haha ok i see wot u mean.
but multi-talented...i dnt think u have to be amazingly awesome at being able to do everything.
he's decent at his acting and singing...cos i mean he's not ear screechingly horrible to listen and watch. so in my opinion i do find him multi-talented because altho he's certainly not the best he's not the worse either.
as for the modelling...y is it only being a top model qualifies as talent? that only just shows that the top models are extremely good looking to get where they are...

I only know that he is from Farenheit (is that how you spell it?). He looks handsome in my opinion but I have no other knowledge to comment on his talents or fame.

I classify talent as something that you are actually good at. I can play basketball decently, but I am not good. Does that make basketball my talent? Wu Zun is not ear screechingly horrible, but he is not good. Not being ear screechingly horrible does not equate to talent. Talent is not the opposite of "not horrible". Talent is defined (Dictionary.com) as, "a special natural ability or aptitude". Whether a person is talent is arbitrary, but not that arbitrary.

Being a model just requires looking nice. Being top model (ANTM anyone?) supposedly requires not only looks but modeling extremely well and that's a skill that requires going beyond just looking pretty... or so ANTM says. I haven't seen any evidence that indicates that Wu Zun's modeling ability is anything that differentiates him from any other models.

^ oh ok.
haha guess that IS one of wuzun's talents then. cos he can play basketball EXTREMELY well.
yup ANTM....not just about looking pretty...
but i guess we cant say much about his modelling as it was before he came to taiwan so hav no idea wot his modelling ability was like.
...and but then...u cant deny he's not multi-talented when it comes to taking on languages..
english, hokkien/taiwanese, mandarin, malay

IMO WuZun's talents arent for entertainment business~XD

but he has the potential to be a good actor.

^ that means his talents are for the entertainment business if u think he has the potential to be a good actor.

his acting is alrite. before i really hyped up about him too but honestly we just alrite.. there is much special about him beside he look good looking. i like him though ehhe

Im not talking of the talent that he's recently developing.

And he couldnt really sing and dance IMO~ And he's too nice to be a showbiz personality.

I dont hate him personally, but the media is too annoying and some of his fans just make me to think ... "I dont want to hear his name again" So even if Iam a Fahrenheit fan, I almost never go to Chun's thread.

hahas. sorry. no. the manager did not say anything bad about 5566 and 183Club. nothing to do with 183Club.
didn't know why i put in there in the first place.

anyway, it is just like, uh, the manager kinda 'deserted' 5566 now.

i am not sure how to phrase this but oh wells.

sorry, off-topic. =X

i shall stop.

OFFTOPIC:

I never got the show and SDR crap... nor do i get the tony and show crap... but i know Show isn't the type of person to be mean... i know the fone number was fake.. could have been wrong.. heavens knows how many times i give ppl the diff number coz i never remember my number... and Show doesn't need to go on ney San Li TVs to get famous... he has his own show which is hot =D

Ok... back to topic (can't help it coz i am a mega show fan)

About Wu Zun... let me see how I can begin to criticise him... before that I should say he is extremely good looking, one of the first guys in FRH to catch my eyes... i totally love him looks, and that is probably it.

I do not hate Wu Zun, but i can defiantely criticise a bit about him, (i can do dat to EVERY artist, even my beloved ones =D Show, Hu Ge, Calvin, Arron... etc etc) But Wu Zun.. no offence, probably does only have a pretty face... he can't realli dance... well so far FRH hasn't impressed me deeply with their dancing.... not many boy bands have neywayz... Wu Zun isn't really suited to singing... his acting... he is improving... i can't say he is dat good, coz he isn't, but he is imporving that dat is a good thing.

But, overall he is a nice guy... he is quite funny on his blog, he is more a 'father' figure in his blog telling fans to eat this eat that... blah blah blah.. dat is quite cute. But talent wise... sorry Chun... i have to say you need to develop some talent... singng can be improved... dancing and stuff... looks can stay...good looking enough...

so... i kinda like chun, but only for his looks and his personality... talent wise i don't.. but then lots of idols are only looks.... but then again... to stay in the ent. biz for long... eg. Show... you need real talent... so before i go off rambling about how talented show is... i jsut wanna say good luck 2 chun and hope he improves...

and one thing i can't stand is why he is so damn popular.. wat about the other 3 memebrs? arron? calvin? jiro? they are a group.... chun's popularity just soared..... 0.0 oh wellz....

can't help being shallow at times.... (although i HATE being shallow) but chun is just an exception... i like his looks...... haha

lol definitely agree with the dancing....hehe but then none of frh can do that particularly well.. '

i think his 'niceness' is what gets him far in the industry tho (with the exception of looks)
im personally sick of all those divas and celebs that just think wayy to much of themselves and act like royalty.
most of his fans actually like him BECAUSE he is so down to earth and friendly.
and yeh he's developing his acting talent but its obviously at a stage where its good enuf already to have been scouted by stephen chow.
and he's definitely not someone to pick a person by their popularity or looks

As an actor, I think Wu Zun's doing a pretty okay job. Evidently, his acting is still not up to par, but he's slowly improving and if he continues, he may be pretty successful. The sad thing is, the guy's in his mid-late 20s already... and in this current industry, age matters, just as much as talent - young plus good looking (and good promotion) obviously equals a success, but without sufficient talent, even the most handsome guys will gradually be forgotten.

For his singing, not just him, but I think FLH should just quit the whole band act altogether.. with an exception of Aaron, the rest just aren't singing material and it's already clear that they're not taking it too seriously either. but I don't really see that happening anytime soon, especially since boy bands are such a hit in Asia nowadays (not that I'm complaining ), any company would obviously try to make the most money out of it.

Anyways, to be completely honest, I do think that Wu Zun's totally undeserving of his current popularity status. That's one of the things that irks me most.

Well i guess all i can say is that his acting, is .. well. mediocre. There are much better people out there, so i guess he doesnt deserve all the air-time he gets. Although, i aint annoyed or pissed off or anything, i chose not to go to boards that brags about him 24/7 lol.

I actually think Jiro is cuter/more fun of a person. He was ever so cute in Hana Kimi.

Wu zun didnt impress me that much, although he is quite good looking, to be honest.

hmm well, i do agree with most of the opinions stated above

it is true that hes being shoved into the limelight, but since he decided to become an artiste, then this is what he has to face. the only thing is that hes one helluva reserved guy at the moment, hes opening up, but still kinda shy shy at times, which is the appealing side to him[=

im fervently hoping that the other 3 members will get their own fair share of popularity soon, so that the media would have nothing to say about wuzun being the cause of fahrenheit breaking up. its just a tide, that wuzun is being offered so many different projects at the same time.

wuzun's singing definitely can be developed, coz at the moment, his singing is the worst out of all 4 of them (that i agree a lot), and as for dance moves, hes not as 'soft' or rather, gracious compared to the rest. maybe he has never learnt dancing before?

wuzun has a soothing voice, which can be nurtured into something powerful if trained[=

hehe, kinda glad that there is a thread about Chun! ' Cause I can't really say this at the Chun related site! ><;

First of all, I want to point out that I don't DISLIKE him but I'm just NOT a big fan of Chun anymore! XD I think that almost everyone had pretty much said what I wanted to say...

I used to be a huge fan of Chun...in fact, it was Chun that made me start liking Fahrenheit very much!! ^^ I used to LOOOOOOOOOVE how ADORABLE he looked with LONG hair (haha, I guess I'm kinda weird) because he's such a pretty-boy, and THEN he cut it!! I don't really like the short hair, cause he's can't curl it anymore! '

And then, he started getting POPULAR and POPULAR! I'm NOT against the fact that he gained so much fame, it's just that it really seems like Chun is DOMINATING the other 3 members and that makes me kinda angry...cause the OTHER three is JUST as talented and cute!! XD I mean, ONE SERIES AFTER ANOTHER is about Chun...and I'm just really tired about it! x) It's funny cause in the beginning was it Jiro that was the MOST popular one, and now it's def. Chun! XD

I just WISH that the other 3 members would have EQUAL popularity...XD

Do I dislike Wu Zun? No. Do I think he's over-rated? Absolutely. Is it really his fault? No.

Wu Zun is good-looking; there's no question... he's sometimes a bit too "niang" for me, but I can definitely see how his "beauty" could attract all these fans. Unfortunately, his singing/acting is really not all that great, but his fans just seem to like his good looks.

Honestly, I feel sorry for him. You can tell that he's very uncomfortable when the media ignores the rest of the band members to pester him about his love rumors and his upcoming projects... perhaps part of it is because of his bad Mandarin, but another part of it is definitely embarrassment... he probably feels bad that his bandmates are being ignored and neglected. Also, I know I would like Wu Zun more if his fans weren't so crazy... most of them can't accept any criticism of Wu Zun, are constantly putting down other artists (including the other guys in Fahrenheit), and are even sometimes downright creepy. Again, that's NOT his fault... but it's definitely a turn-off.

His "crazy" fans should think about what they're doing to his career. A lot of people dislike celebrities/singers/actors who are over-rated; perhaps if his fans and the media didn't constantly report his every move and praise his every decision/project, more people would like him. I think it's telling that many of the people in this thread have "lost some interest" in Wu Zun precisely because of the press and attention he's been getting.

I don't hate him, he's not THAT handsome for me, sometimes he looks like a girl XD

Well, I, for one, never liked Wu Zun from the start.

My first exposure to him was in Tokyo Juliet. And let's all face it: he was HARDLY at his most attractive there. The bad hair, the voice-dubbing, the lackluster acting... etc.

Since my first impression of him was as an actor, and most of you admitted that he is definitely not a good actor, I think you'll understand why I never had a good impression of him from the start.

Moving on as things progressed, I watched a few episodes of Hana-Kimi. But it's not really my genre of drama, so I stopped watching it. Wu Zun's acting had improved marginally, but I still had a very neutral (leaning towards dislike) bias towards him. So I didn't think much of it.

Physically, he's just not really my type of attractive. I can appreciate the fact that he has a good body and I understand why other girls think he is attractive, but I don't. Then comes all the media attention and focus on him and the overshadowing of all the other members (except for Jiro, but a small amount) and that irritated me. I don't like it when the media makes such a big deal of one star, or a company only promotes that one big star. I mean, where's Arron or Calvin and their dramas too? They're really cute and funny and nice, but I don't blame him. After all, I don't think he's a natural camera-hog/whore (as opposed to one of his peers who was in a similar situation about a year ago: Ming Dao). He seems quite shy; is that because he grew up in a small country (Brunei?) or is it because his Mandarin isn't really that good (although it seems passable to me...there are stars with worse Mandarin that are more outgoing than he is if you ask me. ie: Machi, Xiao Ai -- she's Japanese-- ... I think Wu Zun's mandarin is even better than Vanness' when Vanness first debuted in Taiwan)...

And finally, I think he looks snobby. I'm sorry to all you major fans and lovers of Wu Zun, but to me, he has a distinctly snobby air-look about him. You know that look that rich people just can't seem to erase from their faces? I don't mean to imply that I don't think he's worked hard, and perhaps it's his rather unique facial structure that makes his more uncomfortable facial expressions look snobby (similarly how BoA tries to look sexy but just ends up looking conceited)... so it's just a personal bias on my behalf. I've never had a good impression of him since I found out he was from Brunei. It's complicated.

So no, I don't hate him. But he's not my favorite -- Farenheit in general is not my favorite -- actor, singer, model, or stage personality...

I do not particularly hate him, but I feel that he's lacking of talents in this entertainment industry.

First of all, his singing is just like karaoke style... nothing great!!! His acting is just so-so...
And he's really a boring and uninteresting idol... it seems like his "star quality" only shines whenever ella is around him... but when he's with other FRH members, he doesn't stand out at all!!!

Lol I've never been much of a Wu Zun fan...
But I don't hate him... I just don't like him that much.
I still don't get what's the hype of him about. =S
I mean the first time I saw him in TJ he wasn't that attractive.
I was like... O__O oh god he looks like a girl. -.-
But yeah over some time his hair got some fixing and I'm like yeah...
He's handsome and has a nice body and seems like a nice person. =]
But I don't think his acting is anything special... neither is his singing.
So yeah he isn't my most favorite member out of the group, but I still try to like him since I like Arron and they are from the same group. :]
So yarr Wu Zun is alright I just don't get why he is so popular all of a sudden.
Maybe because he's really handsome and the girls like it?
Lol it's just that Wu Zun is not my type... I like... Arron. =P

I am a Chun fan but I'm very quick to pick out his faults as aforementioned. Anyway, I don't see the point in disliking him because of the media and some pushy, hardcore fangirls since none of it is his fault. We've established that, haven't we?

A person can't overrate themselves.

On a similar yet different note: Yes. Arron is the best singer out of the group. We all know it. But I guess I'm the only one whose ears are hearing the potential in Jiro's voice. He sings through his nose, but with proper breathing and training, that can be done away with quickly. Jiro has already hit some decent notes in songs like "Finding Happiness For You" and "Wandering Alone" so with a little training and voice lessons I think he's got the potential to sing as good as Arron. If not better, someday. Unless Arron decides to take vocal lessons too, that is. XD

Finally: I want to know why Chun being from Brunei added to your bad impression of him, Nanshi. That sounds a little funny to me, but I'm not one to jump to conclusions so I'll let you explain yourself.

well, i dont dislike chun but i think he is quite overated at the moment. I do hope he can get less attention and bcome less popular for a while coz its his popularity tat cause people to dislike him. i mean its unfair but of coz there is nothing anyone can do if people want to dislike him because of the attention that he is getting..

so hopefully the media starts to create news fr someone else in Fahrenheit and leave wu zun alone....But i do not hope that people start to dislike jiro or arron or calvin because of the attention that they are getting... because i do like Fahrenheit as a whole....

bout his talents, i have to admit he is not the most talented guy in the industry but probably the reason why he is so famous is bcoz he is really down-to-earth and sweet to his fans...which is sth many artist lack at this time... he does read all the messages on his guestbook despite his busy schedule.. (many people doesnt bliv he read but i think he does coz he did answer some questions fr the guestbook in his blog entry and he didnt want his manager to clear his guestbook altho it is forever full because he said he wants to delete them himself after he read it. many fans saw him deleting his guestbook entry in the middle of the night because that is the only time he can do it. so he rather not sleep but read messages from his fans.. well, how the fans know he deleted, thats because the only time anyone can post a message on his guestbook is when he deleted them and there are hardcore fans that goes to his guestbook all the time to see if he deleted them so that they can post messages) plus he is always concern about his fans coz he himself is a fans of michael jordan and i guess he can understand his fans' feeling and thus appreciate his fans a lot... always ask them to be careful, eat more fruits, study hard, and not to buy him present but do more charity with the money...probably thats why he is famous .. of coz his good-looking is a plus point.

I guess the most imp point being in the entertainment world is to attract fans and be different.. talent is not everything you need.... if someone is very talented but doesnt appreciate his fans and is very stern on-screen then its very difficult to get many fans as well...

well to me, as long as an artist can be funny on screen and makes me happy, thats enough.. as long as they dont sound v bad in singing and doesnt act very badly, i can accept it.

yeah i agree with many things.

i used to likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee chun alot. but now the feeling fades away i think he's still quite new, nothing special in his acting nor singing. it's his look and personality/character that made him get noticed i guess. he's caring and sweet towards his fans, but other FRH members too!

many companies want him to take on ads/drama roles bcoz he's popular. because of his popularity, media will find reasons/excuses to "badmouth" him, like his friendship with the rest of the members.

i agree that chun fans are quite fanatics sometimes. to see their idol so badly, they would do ANYTHING. a few weks ago in another thread, i saw an article/saying that chun's fan/fans shouted at arron "DONT BLOCK MY CHUN" or something like that.. that's a shocking thing to hear! then in this point of time, arron fans will be angry at wuzun fans right, because of who? wu zun of course. some may be angry bcoz of this AND the fact that wuzun get more roles/ads compared to the rest of the FRH members.

I like him.. but his like EVERYWHERE now! His getting promoted too much and everything.. but his alright i guess! But there a part of me where i dislike him sometimes!

Actually, they can. That's what arrogance is. But I agree that Wu Zun is not arrogant, and that his over-ratedness has nothing to do with him.


Well, I'm not nanshi, but I can tell you why my mother thinks the Brunei thing is annoying. She's tired of all these artists going to Taiwan from other countries... for example, JJ Lin, Leon Jay Williams, and Stefanie Sun = Singapore; Guang Liang, Nicholas Teo, Gary Cao, Rynn Lim, Jasmine (Fish) Leong = Malaysia... she's a bit more willing to "accept" those artists who write their own music... and singing is more focused on the voice, anyway. With something like acting, a lack of fluency or comprehension of the language can produce very BAD results... just watch Leon Jay Williams in TGDJY or Green Forest to get what I mean. Wu Zun is not as bad as Leon Jay, but I thought he was terribly ANNOYING in Tokyo Juliet... everything seemed over-acted to me (and it wasn't like Hana-Kimi, where things were supposed to be somewhat exaggerated), and it wasn't even his own voice. I remember my way of thinking at the time was... geez, if you want to be from another country and make it in Taiwan, that's fine with me... but PLEASE be good at what you do! (Plus, I hate boys with long, wispy feminine hair. (I liked Wu Zun MUCH better after he cut his hair.))

Also, Wu Zun is a filthy rich guy from Brunei. There will be people who resent money no matter where you go... I personally don't get a particular "shaoye" vibe from Wu Zun, but I think I could understand someone else getting that from him.

DreamingofVann, you can pretty much read that statement from tammiest and get a bit of a gist of what I feel towards Wu Zun. Like tammiest, I do not feel a particular "shao ye" vibe from him, but as someone who knows people who are extremely talented in the entertaining arts and yet can't seem to get a break, you may be able to understand why I feel a particular vague type of resentment towards him. I don't resent money at all -- haha! love it! -- and I do not think he is really arrogant or the shove it in your face kind of guy... but you'll excuse me if my personal particulars are more towards artists who have humble beginnings (hence the intense dislike of Paris Hilton, ne?)...

I posted this in another thread. It answers the same exact question.

I don't think its fair to hold where he come from, against him. Just because he might get it "easier" than others doesn't mean that he got it easy himself. There's always going to be people out there who get it easier then other people and that applies to everyone... that's just how thing is, to discredit someone because they come from a rich place is unfair.

Now for the question if I hate Wu Zun... nope. I'm neutral toward him but he's not very talented. His look is what gave him the popularity he has today, however... he does seem to be a very nice and down to earth guy.

nanshi.. bout the quote that u took.. i hav to clarify sth... if u get a place to study abroad the government will NOT sponsor u... unless u get their scholarship. they dont sponsor anyone that get a place to study abroad... the education in brunei is free but probably till secondary school (i am not exactly sure if its free for university as well but secondary sch is definitely free)

and i hav to agree with PhuongNguyen, altho he is rich but that doesnt help him when he 1st came out, he wasnt experience in acting and got scold badly by the producer. there is nothing money can help him at that time... he tried very hard himself to overcome that ... altho he is not the best actor but he tried his best and the reason he doesnt wan to work for his father is bcoz he wanted success by depending on himself.

Perhaps you misinterpreted my statement(s) -- especially the ones in the quotes -- but I do not necessarily hold the fact that he's from Brunei against him. As always, I am always as neutral as I try to be towards artists. The fact that I do not like Farenheit as a group of artists at all -- surprisingly enough -- actually does affect my impression on Wu Zun. I'm not discrediting him because he's from Brunei; his lackluster acting skills, okay-looks (from my perspective), and virtually nonexistent singing skills already made me not like him as an artist. The fact that he's from Brunei is one more thing on a small list of things that I don't really like about him. Not that I don't like him in particular, I think he's quite funny and nice... I just don't like him or Farenheit as artists. It's more my overall dislike/neutrality towards FRH that makes me stay away from Wu Zun and their general group activities.

Like I said though, I'm not judging anything about his personality -- I grew up in the epitome of suburbia... I'm used to rich people (not being one myself, of course). I just wanted to point out my opinions on Wu Zun, BUT I am not judging anything about him. I just think that he has got it easier, Wu Zun is the only person I'm talking about because this thread is about him. I feel the same way about Utada Hikaru. Her father is a music producer and her mother was an enka singer, she has doors and opportunities galore to enter the music business. Fortunately, Utada has the talent (in my opinion) to justify her opportunities.




Thanks for clarifying about Brunei's academic "procedures." Like I said, it was just something I heard and not necessarily something I knew.

I *know* that money may not have necessarily helped him out when he first tried his hand at the acting business. But at the same time, I haven't really read stories about Wu Zun trying to juggle three sucky jobs while running to auditions the time in between. I'm not implying that he bribed producers or just used his big name (*cough Hilton cough*) to get to where he wanted to be. But rather, since he did have a background in business, he had enough money saved away so that he could pursue what it is he wanted to pursue. I have nothing against that of course -- I think it's a lot smarter than throwing caution into the wind and becoming a waiter and hoping one day you'll make it big -- but at the same time, I generally tend to have a lot more respect for artists who DO do that (awkwardly enough) because they worked so hard and I feel like they deserved it. Not to say that Wu Zun didn't work hard or that he didn't deserve it... but... not being a fan of Farenheit and not following their new or watching their shows... I don't know much about them and what I do know about them is pretty old stuff before they even debuted with their first album...

The fact that Wu Zun is from Brunei is actually only a SECONDARY reason as to why I do not like him. The primary reason(s) I do not like him is generally because I do not like him as an artist. He's mildly overrated -- not his fault, I am led to believe -- and I just don't really... like him as an artists. I've already named all my reasons, so I don't feel like reiterating them again.

So please do not think I'm some kind of judgmental fool... because I'm really trying my best not to... but like I said, it wasn't because I heard he was from Brunei and was like "Oh, rich spoiled brat who hasn't lifted a finger in his life and he's all famous and I hate him." It was more like "Oh, he's from Brunei... well, that kind of explains a bit..."

You judge a person by where they are from and you're saying that it isn't judgemental? Ok, so Brunei is a rich country... but that's the country itself... you cannot assume that just because he's from that country, that you've figured things about him. Haven't you heard that everyone got a story of their own? Ok... so I'm from Texas, does that mean that I ride cattle and go Yee haw? And since I'm Vietnamese, does that mean that I eat every bugs and animals that come in my way? Just because you're from a certain place does not define you as a person... and just because he's from Brunei doesn't give you the right to assume the person he is. Even if its not the whole reason on why you dislike him, the fact that you dislike him just because he is from that place also, just doesn't make sense to me.

I wouldn't care if you dislike the guy because he's talentless in your opinion, however... to use where he comes from, its unfair and its pathetic in my opinion (no offense).

I *know* that money may not have necessarily helped him out when he first tried his hand at the acting business. But at the same time, I haven't really read stories about Wu Zun trying to juggle three sucky jobs while running to auditions the time in between. I'm not implying that he bribed producers or just used his big name (*cough Hilton cough*) to get to where he wanted to be. But rather, since he did have a background in business, he had enough money saved away so that he could pursue what it is he wanted to pursue. I have nothing against that of course -- I think it's a lot smarter than throwing caution into the wind and becoming a waiter and hoping one day you'll make it big -- but at the same time, I generally tend to have a lot more respect for artists who DO do that (awkwardly enough) because they worked so hard and I feel like they deserved it. Not to say that Wu Zun didn't work hard or that he didn't deserve it... but... not being a fan of Farenheit and not following their new or watching their shows... I don't know much about them and what I do know about them is pretty old stuff before they even debuted with their first album...

oooo ic... i get wat u meant about money helping him out... ya i guess his way into the business is not as difficult compare to people that need to go for tonnes or audition and contest...
FYI, he is discovered when he was watching movie with a friend by the Tokyo Juliet producer... I guess he is discovered because of his looks coz they said he looks like v suitable to act as the male lead so he went for audition and got the job. He did consider a lot before joining because he has to leave his business in brunei and also his father (his mother passed away and he is the only one staying at home with his father coz his siblings all have their own family) ... after consideration only he decided to give it a try altho he never dream of becoming an actor or singer. Thats bcoz his mother passed away and after that incident, he felt that he has to try everything in life before it is too late... that is why he is giving it a try.

altho he never used connection to get into the business but like wat u said,bcoz he is rich and he got time to tried this out.. even if it doesnt work out he can still go back to his business in Brunei and unlike some people that need to work for their family, then they might need more consideration before deciding to go this way coz if they are not famous and cant earn much then their family's life will be unstable.

well, i can just say he is lucky... to be born in a good family and got the look that even by just walking around in taipeh he gets discovered (i heard there are more than one agency that actually approach him but he chosed comic production in the end)

i do hope he will undergoes some vocal training so that can perform better in their nx album...