60699
May 25 2007 10 24 PM
Did you notice that the crowned Miss HK never gets promoted by TVB. 4 of the 7 fa dans of the 90's, Marianne Chan, Maggie Cheung Ho Yee, Ada Choi & Kenix Kwok, did not win the crown. Currently, no crowned Miss HK from the 90's is promoted heavily.
I don't know about the Miss HK's before the 90's, but for the Miss HK's of the 90's, none of them have had the full support from TVB like the support non-Miss HK winners or first/second runner-up's have gotten. I'm not too sure about Anita Yuen but aside from her, no Miss HK that entered TVB has gotten much support from.
When I say support and promoted, I mean TVB actually "cares" for their career and takes every step to get them into the media, not just hand them a leading role and let it be.
- Amy Kwok (1991) acted for a while but she was never really up there in terms of promotion, and that could've been because she didn't want to be promoted since her life was stable with Lau Ching Wan.
- Mok Ho Yan (1993) also acted but never got leading roles.
- Halina Tam (1994) either entered TVB and never got big roles or she didn't enter until the late 90's and even now, no leading roles.
- Winnie Yeung (1995) no leading roles.
- Lee San San (1996) acted for a while also and she also stopped acting for TVB. But while she was acting her roles weren't any that seemed like TVB was looking to promote her.
- Anne Heung (1998) who acted in many series, and had a couple of leading opportunities but isn't heavily promoted by TVB. I honestly don't think TVB intended on promoting Anne heavily because they gave her the "career suicide" role in DIF 4. But I think TVB intended on using her photogenic face to promote their series, hence all those ancient series she was a part of early in her career.
- Sonija Kwok (1999) who probably had the most support, and if it weren't for her beauty she probably wouldn't have gotten that support, is not really promoted either. Her "demotion" was probably due to her relationship with Deric Wan, but she still never really got the support most non-winners got.
So I am wondering why TVB never gave them the support they gave others. If I were TVB, I would give the winner the support rather than those that didn't win or are runner up's, unless they had potential to become actresses (i.e. Kenix Kwok).
Mythical50
May 26 2007 2 14 AM
Wow that is some great stuff 60699. It really left me speechless. Perhaps someone can shed some light on this subject.
galvatron prime
May 26 2007 2 57 PM
I think some of them are not talents enough in acting ,Charmaine Sheh ,Myoline Yeung etc are promoted because they are talents despite not winning miss HK ,a good actress do not need pretty face to get promoted,The talent ,skill are most important ,Tavia Yeung is a great actress too who never enter miss HK .
60699
May 26 2007 4 08 PM
QUOTE(galvatron prime @ May 26 2007 9 57 AM) [snapback]3947190[/snapback]
Charmaine Sheh ,Myoline Yeung etc are promoted because they are talents despite not winning miss HK ,
If you mean Myolie Wu, she wasn't heavily promoted either until her role in Golden Faith.
As for Charmaine, she is who she is today because TVB supported her. Miss HK's like Anne Heung, Sonija Kwok, Lee San San were a whole lot better in their first roles than Charmaine was in her first role. And my point is that TVB never really gave these Miss HK's the support they gave Charmaine.
BaBiAdOrKaBLe
May 27 2007 3 20 AM
But 2000's MHK got promoted, Shirley Yeung, Kate Tsui (who definitely don't deserve the promotion)
galvatron prime
May 27 2007 4 04 AM
I see TVB give them chance but they din't Not suceed ,Halina Tam went to act in big screen and act in Young And Dangerous 2 after she win Miss HK ,she decline the TVB offer to act in small screen , ,Anne Heung have give a leading role before but she not suceed ,Charmaine sucess because she have act together with TVB big boy like Julian Cheung [2 Times],Louis Koo and Ekin Cheng and she overshadow Sonija Kwok in Perish in the name of love and 2 more film ,she too have more fan in South East Asian compare to others,Sonija Kwok are better in playing bad girl role ,she shine in that role ,Winnie Yeung are not good enough to act as lead .
Katyrules
May 27 2007 10 44 AM
I dunno,
I suppose Miss Hk winners are too busy doing like "promoting Hong Kong and saying how happy they are to win miss hk and to get other people aware of hk"
whereas the runner ups don't have such a important job to do, so they spend more time on acting and then tvb sees that they are good and they promote them more
so i suppose thats my theory but i think its quite reasonable
hoisanbai
May 28 2007 6 14 AM
QUOTE(60699 @ May 26 2007 8 08 AM) [snapback]3947412[/snapback]
If you mean Myolie Wu, she wasn't heavily promoted either until her role in Golden Faith.
As for Charmaine, she is who she is today because TVB supported her. Miss HK's like Anne Heung, Sonija Kwok, Lee San San were a whole lot better in their first roles than Charmaine was in her first role. And my point is that TVB never really gave these Miss HK's the support they gave Charmaine.
Ah Sheh did not get the support in the early days either. The winner of MHK 1997 and first runner up got into some love triangle. The scandle bumped her up. Otherwise, she would be just another non promoting extras.
QUOTE(Katyrules @ May 27 2007 2 44 AM) [snapback]3951060[/snapback]
I dunno,
I suppose Miss Hk winners are too busy doing like "promoting Hong Kong and saying how happy they are to win miss hk and to get other people aware of hk"
whereas the runner ups don't have such a important job to do, so they spend more time on acting and then tvb sees that they are good and they promote them more
so i suppose thats my theory but i think its quite reasonable
You are right. The top 3 winners are busy promoting HK or doing charity works on their first year. This gives chance to the remaining 2 of the top 5 such as Suki Tsui. I beleive Maggie Cheung and Kenix did not make it to the top 3 and thus got the head start. Sometimes, it is better to lose.
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But 2000's MHK got promoted, Shirley Yeung, Kate Tsui (who definitely don't deserve the promotion)
TVB promotes all winners each year. The company spend a great deal of money not just for 1 event. Tiffany Lam is opted to return to school knowing her Cantonese and acting are not up to par so material only after 1 year. Lee San San wants to be in films and took at jobs from TVB then. Lee San San is also too tall. The only person can match her height is Joe Ma, who was not leading role material then. Halina Tam quit TVB to be with her bf. She came back later and only get the support roles. Tracy Ip is being consider top 5 to be promoted by the new management for the next fadan. I am sure Aimee Chan will get her if she decided to stay with TVB after she hands the crown to MHK 2007.
Kate is getting the same promotion as Anne Heung. Maybe in a couple of years, if Kate does nto improve, she will end up like Anne. On the other hand, if no new MHK will come forth, Kate gets to be the lead role longer. I think Anne did not get the move up because of Sonija (1999) and Shielry (2001). There are just enough rooms to house so many MHK that are from that era.
Winnie Yeung I don't know but she roles are limited.
katherinekwokhk
May 28 2007 10 45 AM
well they r miss hk winners...doesnt hav much experience in acting...other actors and actresses did some TVB class thing....shirley is doing quite well...most of them r...the rest...not sure....but tracy is started to appear on TVB dramas...
hapix
May 28 2007 12 39 PM
I think it depends on the actress themselves too?? Charmaine sounds like the obedient type whereas the winners (you can say they might got a bit bigheaded after they won) either gave up due to issues to do with love relationships or seriously werent leading material so TVB gave up? I'm not too sure on this matter cause I've never thought about it.
jadedreams27
May 28 2007 6 50 PM
I guess the HK audience aren't fond with Miss. HKs since the mass promotion of them starting with Lee San San in series, and it has gotten worse in recent times with Mandy Choi and Kate Tsui. It's really the Miss. Internationals TVB are looking to recruit and promote now because most of them seem to be more likeable in image, personality, and popularity.
It may also have to due with the crowned winner's image of being a good girl and pure, so their roles may be limited. Didn't Kate get reprimanded when she talk about sex in a radio interview lol
larrymoocow
May 29 2007 5 07 AM
You have a good point, those in the 90s were not promoted, in some cases, many of the bigger stars to emerge came from second or third place. I forget who it is, there was one who did not even place and is now or was a big studded star. Times has changed now and the winners of Ms HK or even Ms international are hugely promoted.. Aren't they guaranteed like 3 year contracts too?
hoisanbai
May 29 2007 9 49 AM
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. Didn't Kate get reprimanded when she talk about sex in a radio interview lol
Yes Kate did. She is fortunate not to get frozen. She came out and apology but really was forced.
Mandy Cho got such a big head that she wants leading roles. She did not get it and she returned to the States to finishing up her gemology grading class. And now she wants to be hosting TVB shows rather than to work for a Jewel company. This proves she got frozen.
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Yes Kate did. She is fortunate not to get frozen. She came out and apology but really was forced.
Mandy Cho got such a big head that she wants leading roles. She did not get it and she returned to the States to finishing up her gemology grading class. And now she wants to be hosting TVB shows rather than to work for a Jewel company. This proves she got frozen.
yeah it shocks me that Hong Kong can be so close minded about sexuality, but be so open minded about other things.. like pregnancy before marriage. it's so easy to get frozen by TVB, one wrong word or action and there goes your career.
i think they were heavily promoting Sonija Kwok at one point, but then she had a series of rumors and negative news, like being a third party, etc.
i think that's why a lot of the Miss HK's decided not to renew their contract with TVB and venture into other businesses and fields. there is always gonna be new people promoted by TVB and your 15 minutes of fame is up fast.
remember Cerina de Graca? she's in law school now.
Marianne Chan - successful business woman
a lot of the other Miss HK's married into wealthy families.
so even if TVB doesn't work out for the winners, it's a stepping stone for many other opportunities.
jadedreams27
Jun 5 2007 8 13 AM
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remember Cerina de Graca? she's in law school now.
She's in law school now? No wonder, she hadn't been in any series for a while lol
I thought she was pretty and had potential as an actress though, but having a law career would probably be more useful/enriching for her than playing supporting roles in series. I think Anne Heung also expressed interest in law too, and maybe taking classes part-time?
While the Miss.Hk pageant is still a good ticket into TVB, it seems like it's probably the worse way in now because of the previous Miss. Hks acting history. They are always judged poorly at the beginning of their acting career.
I don't think it is a matter of TVB's judgements, it probably was due to the decisions of the pageant winners themselves. Many of them probably chose not to accept roles or sign/renew contracts.
Another point is that each actress had different levels of acting skills and selling power. So if those actress do not want to get promoted or are not worthy of being promoted, TVB would probably choose not to promote them.
Natsumi_sshi
Jun 9 2007 6 28 AM
thats true!
but now it seems like those not sooo talented miss hk nowdays (that i dont like too much) are being overpromoted..
its always like this when it comes to tvb
stars13
Jun 9 2007 8 16 PM
Yeah normally its the miss international winner that get promoted and miss hong kong winner doesnt really.
Sonija is getting promoted because she won both so she will get promoted.
Shirley is getting promoted because of her cuteness and people like little children like her.
Anne heung isn't which i find it annoying and strange. why not promote her?
Kim4ever
May 28 2009 8 09 AM
I think Miss Hong Kong winner of 2006 Aimee Chan is getting the chance to get promoted right now after putting a good performance in her first series Catch me now and lets see how she'll do in Burning Flame 3
Maximus
Jul 27 2009 12 36 AM
I think they do get promoted but slowly because they need to commit to their duties as Miss HK first and then training and then small roles first etc. It wouldn't be fair for those who went to acting school and took years before they land a big role and some newbie comes along and snatch it right?
tvbblock
Aug 9 2009 3 29 AM
who knows how tvb works. they just promotes whoever they want to. noel leung, a miss hk, a favorite actress of mine because of cute face and good acting. she didn't get promote much by tvb. i think she left tvb in bad terms with them
swtan6el
Aug 29 2009 9 13 PM
Maybe because they don't want to act that much..some just want to win first place for the prize and then leave.
athlon
Sep 8 2009 12 08 PM
Quite an old thread, but anyways... don't forget about Anita Yuen. She got promoted a lot allright.
In fact, as I remember, most Miss HK in the 90's got the chance to act in some kind of longgoin sitcom series (like Anita Yuen's first job is something like "Ngo Ngoi Mui Kwai Yuen").
Wether they make it after that depends on themselves.
llwy12
Sep 8 2009 6 09 PM
I agree with alot of the posts in this forum -- the reason why the Miss HK winners may not get promoted is because they probably don't have the acting talent. It's rare that you have someone like Anita Yuen who did not come out of the acting class but has acting talent. I personally prefer actors/actresses who came out of the acting classes because I believe they have better skill (they are able to do emotional scenes better for one)....
Two of the best actresses from the 80's who didn't even make it into the top 3 in the beauty pageants: Barbara Yung, Kathy Chow
One more point...you won't find too many examples of the Miss HK winners being promoted from the 80's because TVB had a good acting class back then and that's where most of the promotion went (rightly so)...it wasn't until the 90's when the acting class started to get weak that they had to switch to promoting pageant winners.
QUOTE (60699 @ May 26 2007 4 08 PM)

If you mean Myolie Wu, she wasn't heavily promoted either until her role in Golden Faith.
As for Charmaine, she is who she is today because TVB supported her. Miss HK's like Anne Heung, Sonija Kwok, Lee San San were a whole lot better in their first roles than Charmaine was in her first role. And my point is that TVB never really gave these Miss HK's the support they gave Charmaine.
Yeah, I agree. Charmaine really sucked in her earlier series but they still gave her chances. TVB promoted her like crazy. TVB never gave that many chances to other Miss HKs which is weird because I would think that they would treat the winners better.
I think Linda is following Charmaine's footsteps. She did bad in her first few series but TVB kept promoting her and promoting her and now she's almost leading in every one of her series...
basil09
Sep 13 2009 5 18 AM
I don't compare charmaine with Linda becoz Charm was in the industry for two years and she got regconized from the audience thru her role in ROTC. But with Linda since her role in 2005 in Always ready I didn't see any improvement, sorry for Lin 's fan.
The old rumours were (and to believe this you have to believe that TVB fixes the Miss Hong Kong competitions) that the winners and runners up have to spend a year carrying out official duties going to Miss World, Miss Universe etc, so the Miss Hong Kong contestants with any potential as actresses (Kenix Kwok, Marianne Chan, Cheung Ho Yee etc) were prevented from actually winning the competition, so they could be employed as actresses earlier.
insanity1903
Sep 16 2009 9 29 AM
Yeah. I realised too. Probably, the only few MHK being promoted would be - Kate Tsui, Sonija Kwok and perhaps Shirley Yeung. Or maybe because right after they win, they have to go around doing their MHK stuff so, they probably enter the industry a year later than the fellow contestants?
Well, I think that Sonija would probably be considered one of the higher rankings, in terms of her acting. I thought that her acting's pretty decent and good. Especially in DIE and DIE Again. She still getting her lead roles still.
As for Shirley, she used to be promoted right? But in the recent years, she doesnt seem to be promoted that much. But I believe she will rise up soon again.
Kate Tsui, definitely being promoted! I am happy about that actually. From tvb series to movies to EP. She's given alot of chances and I do see some improvements in her series.
Another one who could be promoted might be Aimee Chan. I see an improvement from Catch Me Now to Burning Flames III. Apparently, I didnt really like her in Catch Me Now, she didnt appeal much to me. But am pretty glad she improved in Burning Flames III, well, at least she did improve her cantonese.
And how about Tracy Ip? I dont know if TVB will still want to promote her though. I know she has minor roles before she was frozen. But right after she was "un-froze", she went back to film BTROC and not forgetting, she's hosting The Green Room.
But it really does make me wonder why arent there many MHK winners promoted by TVB. It's usually the runner up who does. Like, Charmaine, Myolie.
Hmmm. Dont think you can compare Linda to the others. Cos Linda was from MCI, not MHK. It's different.
All well, thats my thoughts.
cassapella
Oct 6 2009 8 22 AM
Well, not all true...
1990 - Anita Yuen and Noel Leung were all heavily promoted back then. Anita Yuen decided to ventured to film instead of television so it seemed like she wasn't promoted by TVB. Noel Leung had a terrible reputation with the TVB production crew so she was always pushed to costume series department.
1991 - Amy Kwok, Valerie Chow, and Ada Choi were all heavily promoted by TVB, moreso Amy Kwok. She was in everything from Instinct to Ambition. She was very heavily promoted. And I think TVB saw that she was too tied up to do both be a leading actress and fulfill her Miss HK duties, which led to TVB eventually wanting to keep the "talented" one at home to be their leading lady instead of sending them off to do "duties." Ada wasn't even as promoted as Amy. Valerie was doing quite well but she got poached by the film industry and found better success there.
1992 - this wasn't a year for actresses in general, as none of the winners went on to acting. Florence Kwok came from this year and stuck around to act.
1993 - This is when TVB realized to build up their pool lacking actresses, they need to keep the potentially talented actresses at home instead of sending them out to do Miss HK duties, which really, wasn't the point of TVB putting together the contest anyway. So Mok Ho Yan ended up with the crown. Kenix and other potential actresses like Marianne Chan stuck around to act.
1994 - Same thing here...but perhaps this is the most successful in terms of harvesting actresses. Halina Tam, Akina Hong, Maggie Cheung, Astrid Chan, Natalie Wong, etc. Maggie Cheung was selected the same route as Kenix Kwok from previous year. Given the same award, they immediately promoted her like Kenix because they saw potential in her from the competition. Other actresses like Akina, Astrid, and Natalie were all utilized by TVB but not as vigorous as Maggie. And Halina, after her duties, did turn back to TVB for support. But TVB was already moving on to Miss Hong Kong 1995. Halina then turned her attention to film and music--sadly she doesn't have strong acting chop and very weak singing voice. So eventually her record company dropped her, she returned to TVB and by then was already "old news" so she settled with supporting roles...though she did had a stint, one leading role in a series with Wong He, but her popularity was short-lived.
1995 - it was a weak year, and Winnie was literally the best they could find that year. Duties prevented her from being immediately promoted to first line actress.
1996 - Great PR skills allowed Lee San San to be heavily promoted by TVB despite her pageant duties. Unfortunately, her reign ended and her acting still hasn't shown the audience she could be a leading lady. Same with Fiona Yuen, she was in a load of series with very notable roles, but her time ran out.
1997 - The scandal between Virgina Yung and Lee Ming Wai literally killed their acting career. So Charmaine was able to enjoyed all the positive attention the other two finalists failed to keep. TVB was going to promote Virginia and Lee Ming Wai, but they dropped the girls immediately after their scandal.
1998 - Another terrible year and Anne Heung was the best they could find. Anne has the privilege of enjoying "hands-me-down" series that other leading ladies passed. So she ended up with a butt load of leading roles in mostly mediocre series. She does have some talents and with a quiet and gentle demeanor, she was easy to keep around. TVB never did really promote her.
1999 - Like Lee San San, Sonja Kwok is great with the media so even after her pageant duties, she's still able to go back to TVB with promotions. She played the game well, very good with the politics at TVB, so she was heavily promoted. She's one of the few exceptions I think. Marsha didn't really try. Myolie climbed her way up the ladder with her own ability.
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