I see a lot of comparisons btw the two series because well both are grand series for TVB and do have a lot of similarities. Both feature huge casts and revolve around the family [feuds]. Which do you like better...and which do you think has the better acting/storyline/flow?
IMO..my vote goes to The Drive of Life.
On storyline, quite frankly, DOL has the better one. It's more fleshed out and more detailed than HOG. DOL has the big cast but the storyline allows for it and gives everyone of the cast a chance to shine. Which is untrue of HOG, it featured a large cast but does not give the opportunity for all of the cast members to shine. Bosco, Tavia, Michelle, and Yoyo were all basically background or important for like 2-3 episodes at most. But on the other hand, for DOL, everyone has their own story arc and the story focuses on them at different times. Also, I feel like all of the characters are real and everyone has their own flaws..no one is perfect like cough cough LSK in HOG.
Also the storyline in HOG had a lot of holes and unreasonableness. DOL seems to have less and is largly ok. But if we compare pace, DOL is a lot of slower than HOG, no doubt. But I feel like the pace & the 60 eps allow for better development.
Full Version: The Drive of Life vs. Heart of Greed
I like Drive Of Life alot more than Heart Of Greed!!
I just think DOL has a better story line, cast and everything else!!!
Im not saying that HOG is not good, but it's not as good as DOL!!
DOL wins HOG by miles! lol
I just think DOL has a better story line, cast and everything else!!!
Im not saying that HOG is not good, but it's not as good as DOL!!
DOL wins HOG by miles! lol
D O L for meh jus cuz it has a large cast and everything...x)
H O G is good but i found some of it boring and there wasnt much of BoTa...=[
jus cuz it has a large cast and everything...x)H O G is good but i found some of it boring and there wasnt much of BoTa...=[
themissingpeace - Well said! Can't agree with you more! HOG was also good, but the screentime of the cast was not in balance. There wasn't much of BoTa and Michelle/Yoyo, which is definitely a waste of talents.
I preferred Heart of Greed. the storyline was so interesting and i cudnt wait to watch teh next episode. also the cast is a lot better and the actor and actresses have really improved. due to the fast pace they went straight to the point and it wasnt draggin at all. also love the themesongs. its true that the screen time was a bit unfair but what coud the directors have done. its because the cast was not as big as drive of life and fewer episodes.
I also thought that heart of greed was funnier and made my angry to watch. usually a series which makes me feel something either happy, sad or angry is rather good. on the other hand drive of life didnt make me feel anything. nothing at all. no emotions while watching it and some parts r hard to understand too.
finally i like series which r based on women gaining power rather than males goin at it. thats why heart of greed suited me more as it was a war between women and the men were useless. on the other hand the other one is between men and the women have no control.
the cast in heart of greed are very experienced and many r playing new roles that they have not done before. like Lee si kei playing a powerful role and a good mother. TAvia playing a different role rather than the nice characters she usually plays. shes a rebel here. and chris Lai has shown many improvements.
drive of life is irrational too. Charmaine does not even look like she is in the 90s. actually most of them dont. with the hair, glasses and clothes. it just doesnt fit. i didnt no it was the 90s. i thought it was at present time. and it started at 1994 and continues but people wear the same clothes, have the same hair etc. Its rather wierd watching it.
I also thought that heart of greed was funnier and made my angry to watch. usually a series which makes me feel something either happy, sad or angry is rather good. on the other hand drive of life didnt make me feel anything. nothing at all. no emotions while watching it and some parts r hard to understand too.
finally i like series which r based on women gaining power rather than males goin at it. thats why heart of greed suited me more as it was a war between women and the men were useless. on the other hand the other one is between men and the women have no control.
the cast in heart of greed are very experienced and many r playing new roles that they have not done before. like Lee si kei playing a powerful role and a good mother. TAvia playing a different role rather than the nice characters she usually plays. shes a rebel here. and chris Lai has shown many improvements.
drive of life is irrational too. Charmaine does not even look like she is in the 90s. actually most of them dont. with the hair, glasses and clothes. it just doesnt fit. i didnt no it was the 90s. i thought it was at present time. and it started at 1994 and continues but people wear the same clothes, have the same hair etc. Its rather wierd watching it.
Ill wait until I watched DOL first, but HOG was a piece of crap, literally, it sucked SOOO much.
Blah blah blah, me argue against you, younger brother fight with big auntie, little uncle argue with elder sister, big dad argue with little Pau, all it was was people fighting, completely unoriginal, completely boring, completely a waste of time.
However, I don't think DOL willl be much better, there's too much of a cast and it will be hard to manage and toss people around for it to balance.
HOG was good strictly for the fact of Lee Si Kei, Kwan Kok Ying, Mai Shuet, Har Yu and Louis Yuen. HOG wins for better acting, thats a fact, but the plot was crap.
Even Linda Chung, Bosco Wong, Yoyo Mung, Chris Lai and Tavia Yeung really nailed their roles flawlessly... =D
Blah blah blah, me argue against you, younger brother fight with big auntie, little uncle argue with elder sister, big dad argue with little Pau, all it was was people fighting, completely unoriginal, completely boring, completely a waste of time.
However, I don't think DOL willl be much better, there's too much of a cast and it will be hard to manage and toss people around for it to balance.
HOG was good strictly for the fact of Lee Si Kei, Kwan Kok Ying, Mai Shuet, Har Yu and Louis Yuen. HOG wins for better acting, thats a fact, but the plot was crap.
Even Linda Chung, Bosco Wong, Yoyo Mung, Chris Lai and Tavia Yeung really nailed their roles flawlessly... =D
i preferred DOL any time.. Yes, its a slower pace but for 60 eps its totally better character development in DOL!
i actually think the storyline in DOL is better than HOG... both DOL and HOG had great veteran actresses/actors! Maybe except Linda who ruined the series for me in terms of her acting whereas the cast in DOL (except toby!) are superb even Power Chan!
i actually think the storyline in DOL is better than HOG... both DOL and HOG had great veteran actresses/actors! Maybe except Linda who ruined the series for me in terms of her acting whereas the cast in DOL (except toby!) are superb even Power Chan!
I like DOL bcz have many casts and the storyline is strong.
however, i think, ummm.....though the both series are similar but should not compare because the both series have a good quality
however, i think, ummm.....though the both series are similar but should not compare because the both series have a good quality
HoG gets my vote. Story was fast paced and less dramatic (well, except for Susanna turning evil overnight) and I loved all of Lee Sze Kei's lines and Moses' catchphrases. Also found HoG more engaging and each episode held my interest from start to finish, whereas my attention keeps wandering when I watch DoL. i do like the DoL cast better though.
Definitely DOL for me. Although the pace for DOL is slower compared to HOG, but the storyline is more detailed and the development of the main characters are much better than HOG. Each of the main character has his/her own story and yet all of them are linked together one way or another. The acting in DOL is also way better, imo.
Sorry for fans of HOG but I did not enjoy this series at all. The plot is weak and there are so many stories running parallel to each other but not interlinked. Some of the characters were unnecessary to the story at all. I do not want to post up my negative views of this series as I do not want to start a war here about which series is the better one. Suffice to say, I could not make myself finish watching one single episode from start to finish. In fact, I was so looking forward to the end of this series that it was almost laughable!
Sorry for fans of HOG but I did not enjoy this series at all. The plot is weak and there are so many stories running parallel to each other but not interlinked. Some of the characters were unnecessary to the story at all. I do not want to post up my negative views of this series as I do not want to start a war here about which series is the better one. Suffice to say, I could not make myself finish watching one single episode from start to finish. In fact, I was so looking forward to the end of this series that it was almost laughable!
You can see which series is better by the ratings. I like both series but because Tavia is in HOG, I prefer it more.
Also even if you miss a couple of chapters you can still know what its talking about, its moves in a fast pace unlike DOL - it can be boring.
Also even if you miss a couple of chapters you can still know what its talking about, its moves in a fast pace unlike DOL - it can be boring.
Definitely Heart of Greed!
The reason why I like HOG more than Drive of Life is because there is no boring part in HOG but in Drive of Life there was some boring parts that I had to skip. I'm sure that some people (even die hard Charray fans) must have skipped some parts in DOL. That's just my opinion though.
Secondly, HOG is more funnier with outstanding and memoriable characters that are very strange and unusually like Moses and her dad plus Dai Kai and Si Kei and Tavia's smoking character. There hasn't been much leading actress that smokes in series nowadays.
It shorter and more exciting and each episode is very addictive.
The acting is way better in HOG than in DOL. Everyone is to calm when they shout. I mean when you shout are you calm. I'm refering to the leading actors. In HOG is it was loud and you could see the anger.
Plus there was so much storyline to follow that I can't really catch up. I have my own life so I don't want to watch a series with so many life I have to follow and so complicated. HOG only has one family so I understand.
I like DOL as well but normally the Sheren and Micheal Tao and Jessica and Joe.
The reason why I like HOG more than Drive of Life is because there is no boring part in HOG but in Drive of Life there was some boring parts that I had to skip. I'm sure that some people (even die hard Charray fans) must have skipped some parts in DOL. That's just my opinion though.
Secondly, HOG is more funnier with outstanding and memoriable characters that are very strange and unusually like Moses and her dad plus Dai Kai and Si Kei and Tavia's smoking character. There hasn't been much leading actress that smokes in series nowadays.
It shorter and more exciting and each episode is very addictive.
The acting is way better in HOG than in DOL. Everyone is to calm when they shout. I mean when you shout are you calm. I'm refering to the leading actors. In HOG is it was loud and you could see the anger.
Plus there was so much storyline to follow that I can't really catch up. I have my own life so I don't want to watch a series with so many life I have to follow and so complicated. HOG only has one family so I understand.
I like DOL as well but normally the Sheren and Micheal Tao and Jessica and Joe.
it has to be drive of life for me. heart of greed was too repetative. i like the story of drive of life much more. although heart of gold did have some solid acting from lei si kei.
QUOTE (FantasyMania @ Sep 4 2007 12 51 PM) 
You can see which series is better by the ratings. I like both series but because Tavia is in HOG, I prefer it more.
Also even if you miss a couple of chapters you can still know what its talking about, its moves in a fast pace unlike DOL - it can be boring.
Also even if you miss a couple of chapters you can still know what its talking about, its moves in a fast pace unlike DOL - it can be boring.
I don't believe in ratings being the only indicator in the quality of a series..it just shows the preference of the audience (ex..HK audiences typically love the modern, light hearted series). Jewel in the Palace got extremely high ratings but I thought it paled in comparison to the excellent War and Beauty, it was just the female lead being all good and getting tortured.
I'm a huge Tavia fan too but if I compare the 2 as a series on a whole, I think HOG pales in comparison to the development from DOL. HOG's script is NOTHING NEW..it's typical characters. How many series have featured these stereotypical characters, it's the mean/greedy younger wife, the evil troublemaker uncle and fighting over inheritance? Yes, DOL is slow but it takes turns with each storyline and gradually develops each character. Everything is connected in DOL but as many have pt out with DOL, the storylines in HOG are disjointed.
Definitely TDOL!
HOG was totally predictable and the half the time the story lines never made sense. Also the screentime was devoted to people who had nothing to do with the main family and who couldn't act to save their lives.
no doubt TDOL is inconsistent with props and the dubbing is annoying as hell, but at least the story isn't THAT predictable and character development made sense.
also with HOG, i missed about 15 episodes after like ep 16 and i could still pretty much guess the plot and the ending. with TDOL i missed about 2 episodes and i had to rewatch them before i continued, which proves how predictable HOG was.
thus my vote goes to TDOL even though i'm a huge tavia fan, and hate both the charray and ron-toby pairings. i vote purely on the quality of the plot and the development of the characters, and of course what keeps me entertained. and TDOL has a good mix of backstabbing, drama, comedy and of course pure entertainment in the form of the car races.
HOG was totally predictable and the half the time the story lines never made sense. Also the screentime was devoted to people who had nothing to do with the main family and who couldn't act to save their lives.
no doubt TDOL is inconsistent with props and the dubbing is annoying as hell, but at least the story isn't THAT predictable and character development made sense.
also with HOG, i missed about 15 episodes after like ep 16 and i could still pretty much guess the plot and the ending. with TDOL i missed about 2 episodes and i had to rewatch them before i continued, which proves how predictable HOG was.
thus my vote goes to TDOL even though i'm a huge tavia fan, and hate both the charray and ron-toby pairings. i vote purely on the quality of the plot and the development of the characters, and of course what keeps me entertained. and TDOL has a good mix of backstabbing, drama, comedy and of course pure entertainment in the form of the car races.
my vote goes to DOL.
HOG bores me to death. nothing but quarrels in the family with the same old problems but i agree the acting from some actors/actresses are good.
DOL, though oso a bit boring (esp when they talk about cars), is still more interesting with their twists and turns.
HOG bores me to death. nothing but quarrels in the family with the same old problems but i agree the acting from some actors/actresses are good.
DOL, though oso a bit boring (esp when they talk about cars), is still more interesting with their twists and turns.
I prefer Heart of Greed. Although Drive of Life has better actors/actresses i still find the storyline a bit too slow and at a point it was even kinda boring. Heart of Greed had no boring bits at all and there was also moses and ha yu creating humor in it making even bits that are meant to be boring interesting.
So far HOG although DOL is good with a strong cast. DOL hasn't quite given the excitement as HOG did
*gasp*
I don't knw which one... aiyahh.... honestly, I completely DESPISE the cast of DOL, with the meager exceptions of Jessicca, Michael, and Sheren. Contrastingly, in HOG, there's Bosco, Tavia, Michelle, Yoyo, Linda, even Har Yu and Chris Lai...
BUT!!!! The storyline was realli bad in HOG... and I think that DOL storyline will be better, but the cast just turns me off... completely not intrested...
Gahh.... I don't know... T_T... prolly HOG cuz I love my Bosco....
I don't knw which one... aiyahh.... honestly, I completely DESPISE the cast of DOL, with the meager exceptions of Jessicca, Michael, and Sheren. Contrastingly, in HOG, there's Bosco, Tavia, Michelle, Yoyo, Linda, even Har Yu and Chris Lai...
BUT!!!! The storyline was realli bad in HOG... and I think that DOL storyline will be better, but the cast just turns me off... completely not intrested...
Gahh.... I don't know... T_T... prolly HOG cuz I love my Bosco....
i will say Drive of Life..the storyline is much more developed and interesting,the casts is absolutely good and i juzz hate HOG fighting all over and quarelling..
The Drive of Life much better because
1)the storyline is better than HOG
2)it is meaningful
3)many strong cast
4)many interesting part
HOG is just boring series...always fight and cry....then cry and fight...
i hate the most in this series is use Raymond Lam, Yoyo Mung, Tavia and Bosco to boost Linda's popularity.
1)the storyline is better than HOG
2)it is meaningful
3)many strong cast
4)many interesting part
HOG is just boring series...always fight and cry....then cry and fight...
i hate the most in this series is use Raymond Lam, Yoyo Mung, Tavia and Bosco to boost Linda's popularity.
This poll is not realistic of course people who are a fan of DOL and put it in the Drive of Life thread, DOL will definitely win. should have put it in the poll room instead.
i much prefer heart of greed because the acting made it better for me, after each episode it made me want to watch the next but DOL has never done that. im up to episode 45 of DOL now and nothings really happened, it has been quite slow and boring. Very disappointed in this series especially with this big cast
totally vote for the drive of life....as everyone else has said, the characters in it has more time and chances to perform and develop in the series...like the characters get their shine in different parts of the series!
whereas its very different in HOG and only like a small number of characters get the shine!
whereas its very different in HOG and only like a small number of characters get the shine!
HOG from start until end never think want to shine other character. It just shine Linda and Moses. Pity to Yoyo, Tavia and Raymond being the victim to boost Linda's popularity.
Hmm, I'd say DOL for me as well cos in HOG, although the series featured quite a number of actors, but the main plot of the series always deviate towards the relationship betrween Linda Chung and Raymond Lam which i found to be quite dragging and distracting.
DOL's plot is well laid of as every character has more time to develop from.
DOL's plot is well laid of as every character has more time to develop from.
i prefer DOL. i think the story line is better and makes more sense to me. i dont really like heart of greed. and moses was irritating in that show.
Although heart of greed is a good drama. Drive of life is better i reckons beacuase all heart of greed talks about is the family feud case. But drive of life is less focused on that, more focused on the family unit. Its quite clever how they incorporate things to teach us about the characters. Eg the court case between charmine and joe ma. It taught us a lot about joe and charmaines character and which one is more evil. It clarified both characters for the father at least.
I definitely prefer DOL over HOG. It took me ages to get through HOG even though it was much shorter than DOL. Every week I'm sitting here waiting for the DOL eppie but for HOG it was all just sitting there and I wasn't really tempted to watch it.
The cast in both are amazing and I must admit HOG has Bosco in it. But I didn't like it as much as DOL. Plus the story seems more complex and interesting to me in DOL.
The cast in both are amazing and I must admit HOG has Bosco in it. But I didn't like it as much as DOL. Plus the story seems more complex and interesting to me in DOL.
the drive of life is way better...have better actors and actresses...on the other hand heart of greed have alot of new actors...to me....hehe...and ray and char have better chem then the main couple from heart of greed which is mosses and that new girl....(sorry i forgot her name) i only thing i like from heart of greed is chris lai hehe....
Have not seen both of these shows yet. Both seems to be just as good. Great actors and actresses. Prefer the guys in Heart of Greed and the girls from The Drive of Life. Can't wait to see these shows.
def HOG. better storyline. DOL seems too draggy and nothing exciting happens compare to HOG
i like Heart of Greed better. it's not great but the acting was way better and i acctually finished it. i like the love relationship with Ray, Linda, moses, and Yoyo . but i can't believe Ray dies!!! and can't forget BoTa.
As for DOL, i was really excited when i frist heard about it but when i watched it, i thought it was really boring and i was only watching it because of Jessica and raymond. i watched up to around episode 40 and i gave up. half the time i wasn't even paying attention. it's probably just me cause the whole plot about cars bores me.
As for DOL, i was really excited when i frist heard about it but when i watched it, i thought it was really boring and i was only watching it because of Jessica and raymond. i watched up to around episode 40 and i gave up. half the time i wasn't even paying attention. it's probably just me cause the whole plot about cars bores me.
I think its really hard to compare both series. Sure, both series were pretty big series but DOL was a major production. It incorporated both China and HK actors, there are a lot more episodes so it is obvious that a lot more money, effort and time would be spent on this series when compared to HOG. The cast was massive and there were a lot of oversea filming. It is inevitable that this 'should' be better than HOG.
Having said all that though, I must say I liked Heart of Greed more than Drive of Life. Heart of Greed caught my attention from the very first episode to the very last. I couldn't wait to get my hands on the next episodes. Drive of Life on the other hand was a bit mediocre for me in the beginning. I wasn't interested until around episode 30~.
Having said all that though, I must say I liked Heart of Greed more than Drive of Life. Heart of Greed caught my attention from the very first episode to the very last. I couldn't wait to get my hands on the next episodes. Drive of Life on the other hand was a bit mediocre for me in the beginning. I wasn't interested until around episode 30~.
I voted for HOG. Heart of Greed was 100 times better than DOL. Everyone is just being bias because DOL was a longer production with a bigger (crappier) cast than HOG. Of course DOL has got more votes because this IS the DOL page.
In my opinion, DOL dragged on too long. It was sooooooo repetitive with the relationships and the progress of the company! Especially with Jessica and Joe, it was soooo stupid how she'd always find out something and confront him! This happened like 5 times! MY GOD! And same with Charray, I must admit, they are a cute couple but they kept breaking up n getting back together. It was ridiculous! The director focused wayyyyy too much on Joe + Jessica and Raymond + Charmaine. Altogether, there was probably only 20 minutes of Myolie and that other dude!
DOL had points where i was like 'Finally, this is getting exciting' but then it would just jump to another scene at random times! The progress with the company was stupid as well! There WAS no progress. The whole entire series was a bore with a crappy storyline. (Although it was unique, they didn't enable it to be interesting) They had crappy cast! (Except for Raymond, Charmaine, Myolie, Michael and Damien) and a CRAPPY ENDING!!
What was the point in showing is the ending at the beginning?! IT was different with HOG because it they showed the conflict! but DOL was happy to start with. WTH?!
ITS NO WONDER, DOL DIDNT GET ANY NOMINATIONS FOR BEST FEMALE ACTRESS! MOST NOMINATIONS ARE FOR HOG!
on the contrary, i think HOG had a better cast! Better chemistries that felt real!
In my opinion, DOL dragged on too long. It was sooooooo repetitive with the relationships and the progress of the company! Especially with Jessica and Joe, it was soooo stupid how she'd always find out something and confront him! This happened like 5 times! MY GOD! And same with Charray, I must admit, they are a cute couple but they kept breaking up n getting back together. It was ridiculous! The director focused wayyyyy too much on Joe + Jessica and Raymond + Charmaine. Altogether, there was probably only 20 minutes of Myolie and that other dude!
DOL had points where i was like 'Finally, this is getting exciting' but then it would just jump to another scene at random times! The progress with the company was stupid as well! There WAS no progress. The whole entire series was a bore with a crappy storyline. (Although it was unique, they didn't enable it to be interesting) They had crappy cast! (Except for Raymond, Charmaine, Myolie, Michael and Damien) and a CRAPPY ENDING!!
What was the point in showing is the ending at the beginning?! IT was different with HOG because it they showed the conflict! but DOL was happy to start with. WTH?!
ITS NO WONDER, DOL DIDNT GET ANY NOMINATIONS FOR BEST FEMALE ACTRESS! MOST NOMINATIONS ARE FOR HOG!
QUOTE (XiaoJiao @ Sep 28 2007 4 14 AM)
the drive of life is way better...have better actors and actresses...on the other hand heart of greed have alot of new actors...to me....hehe...and ray and char have better chem then the main couple from heart of greed which is mosses and that new girl....(sorry i forgot her name) i only thing i like from heart of greed is chris lai hehe....
on the contrary, i think HOG had a better cast! Better chemistries that felt real!
HOG all the way! No offence but DOL sucks to me... It's so boring! I don't even find the cast good.
HOG is great! It can be funny and sad at the same time.
HOG is great! It can be funny and sad at the same time.
My vote goes to Heart of Greed. It was entertaining watching Ha Yu and Moses and the rest of the cast. I quit watching Drive of Life after the twelve episode because it got so boring and I didn't feel for any of the characters.
omg, HOG is sooo much better! TDOL is sooo boring. I stopped watching it at ep 7. HOG is also at a faster pace and I like it more.
Well my vote was hard, but I went for DOL. I find the cast, some how better. And the story line was more detailed like someone stated. I loved HOG's too, but the plot was very short. If you cut out the diary parts [which i found no chemistry in LR] then it would've saved you a lot of time. I still think DOL had better chemistry, and the characters were a lot more stronger. But I am bias I guess, cause I like more of details and seriousness; so that's why I preferred DOL more.
QUOTE (B.^Kawaii @ Oct 6 2007 10 24 AM)
In my opinion, DOL dragged on too long. It was sooooooo repetitive with the relationships and the progress of the company! Especially with Jessica and Joe, it was soooo stupid how she'd always find out something and confront him! This happened like 5 times! MY GOD! And same with Charray, I must admit, they are a cute couple but they kept breaking up n getting back together. It was ridiculous! The director focused wayyyyy too much on Joe + Jessica and Raymond + Charmaine. Altogether, there was probably only 20 minutes of Myolie and that other dude!
Well considering DOL is 60 episodes, of course it would be longer and "dragged" more. I don't think the relationships are THAT competitive. The focus of this serie is on the Wah family, so no doubt, they have to talk about everyone that is part of the family and their progress into the automobile industry. I don't really think they focus that much on the couples because the romance is somewhat lacking in this serie, but nonetheless, considering that Joe and Charmaine's character are related to the Wah family through Jessica and Raymond, it would be hard to incorporate them without focusing on the couples too. Myolie's character isn't that crucial to the storyline, it seems like her part is maybe like Raymond's part in Heart of Greed, just there for the triangle or romance purposes. They could've done more with Feng Shao Fung? (the guy who plays Chun Man) though since he was part of the Wah family, so that's one of my complaints.
QUOTE (B.^Kawaii @ Oct 6 2007 10 24 AM)
DOL had points where i was like 'Finally, this is getting exciting' but then it would just jump to another scene at random times! The progress with the company was stupid as well! There WAS no progress. The whole entire series was a bore with a crappy storyline. (Although it was unique, they didn't enable it to be interesting) They had crappy cast! (Except for Raymond, Charmaine, Myolie, Michael and Damien) and a CRAPPY ENDING!!
DOL is not a series that has urber- exciting scenes. The plot is more modern, realistic and gradual compared to other drama series. To truly enjoy the serie, you just take it as it is... watch it for what it is instead of expecting it to be a thriller or a ratings galore. It focuses a lot on the family relationships and trust, and a lot of the family scenes are quite touching/real.
I don't know what you were watching, but throughout the middle parts, it shows them getting through several challenges with Ngai Tin Hung and later Charmaine and Joe in order to guess what, make progress with the company.
I would deem a crappy cast as one with NO ONE being able to act well, but since you named like half of the cast as being able to act, is it really a crappy cast?
QUOTE (B.^Kawaii @ Oct 6 2007 10 24 AM)
ITS NO WONDER, DOL DIDNT GET ANY NOMINATIONS FOR BEST FEMALE ACTRESS! MOST NOMINATIONS ARE FOR HOG!
on the contrary, i think HOG had a better cast! Better chemistries that felt real!
on the contrary, i think HOG had a better cast! Better chemistries that felt real!
Yes, but DOL got loads of nominations for Best Male Actors as well as other categories. It's interesting you left that part out.
Anyway, some people say Drive of Life is boring and dragging, but yet I've been watching continuously up to eppie 51 now, while with Heart of Greed, I stopped somewhere say in eppie 8 or so and still haven't gone back to watch.
QUOTE (jadedreams27 @ Oct 7 2007 8 28 AM)
Well considering DOL is 60 episodes, of course it would be longer and "dragged" more. I don't think the relationships are THAT competitive. The focus of this serie is on the Wah family, so no doubt, they have to talk about everyone that is part of the family and their progress into the automobile industry. I don't really think they focus that much on the couples because the romance is somewhat lacking in this serie, but nonetheless, considering that Joe and Charmaine's character are related to the Wah family through Jessica and Raymond, it would be hard to incorporate them without focusing on the couples too. Myolie's character isn't that crucial to the storyline, it seems like her part is maybe like Raymond's part in Heart of Greed, just there for the triangle or romance purposes. They could've done more with Feng Shao Fung? (the guy who plays Chun Man) though since he was part of the Wah family, so that's one of my complaints.
I said REPETITIVE! NOT COMPETITIVE! there IS a difference!
DOL is not a series that has urber- exciting scenes. The plot is more modern, realistic and gradual compared to other drama series. To truly enjoy the serie, you just take it as it is... watch it for what it is instead of expecting it to be a thriller or a ratings galore. It focuses a lot on the family relationships and trust, and a lot of the family scenes are quite touching/real.
WELL SEEING IT IS A 60 EPISODE SERIE, PEOPLE DO HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS. And through out the world, everyone judges a book by a cover. BUT SOMETIMES THE COVERS MORE INTERSTING THEN THE CONTEXT.
I don't know what you were watching, but throughout the middle parts, it shows them getting through several challenges with Ngai Tin Hung and later Charmaine and Joe in order to guess what, make progress with the company.
Well i dont know wat ur READING because I said the film was jumpy, (jumping to random scenes) i did say it was getting exciting and the mere excitement became a let down. YES BUT MY POINT EXACTLY, IS THAT THEY DRAGGED ON WITH JOE. AND OF COURSE, IF YOUR GOING TO SAY 'Well its a 60 episode serie' THEN MY POINT IS THAT THEY SHOULDNT OF MADE THE STUPID FILM SO LONG! HOG WAS SHORTER AND MORE CAPTIVATING.
I would deem a crappy cast as one with NO ONE being able to act well, but since you named like half of the cast as being able to act, is it really a crappy cast?
Yes, but DOL got loads of nominations for Best Male Actors as well as other categories. It's interesting you left that part out.
HALF THE CAST? THIS ENTIRE PRODUCTION HAS MORE THAN 20 SUPPORTING/MAIN CHARACTERS. CLEARLY YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE TERM "HALF" cos quite frankly half of twenty is 10. i sed about 6 or 7 (btw, i forgot to mention Ron, Toby is improving, but needs more experience, which is the opportunity they giving her) BUT if you didnt realize, i named the good actors/actresses in my perspective. BTW: U SED I LEFT OUT THE MALE ACTORS. HOG ALSO GOT NOMINATED FOR MALE ACTORS TOO! SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I LEFT IT OUT? WELL ITS A BECAUSE A SERIE IS NOT JUDGED UPON ONE OR TWO PEOPLE! ITS JUDGED UPON EVERYONE IN THE SERIE AND HOW THEY PORTRAY THEIR CHARACTER. SEEING SO, DOL ONLY HAS MALE NOMINATIONS? SO IS THIS GETTING THROUGH YOUR HEAD?
Anyway, some people say Drive of Life is boring and dragging, but yet I've been watching continuously up to eppie 51 now, while with Heart of Greed, I stopped somewhere say in eppie 8 or so and still haven't gone back to watch.
I dont really care whether you've gone back to watch HOG, but i am saying that you can't plainly judge a series without even watching the ENTIRE SERIES! because you would have missed the peaking point! So obviously your going to favour DOL. IM sure im not the only person who had high expectations for the film. I think i've made my points..
I said REPETITIVE! NOT COMPETITIVE! there IS a difference!
DOL is not a series that has urber- exciting scenes. The plot is more modern, realistic and gradual compared to other drama series. To truly enjoy the serie, you just take it as it is... watch it for what it is instead of expecting it to be a thriller or a ratings galore. It focuses a lot on the family relationships and trust, and a lot of the family scenes are quite touching/real.
WELL SEEING IT IS A 60 EPISODE SERIE, PEOPLE DO HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS. And through out the world, everyone judges a book by a cover. BUT SOMETIMES THE COVERS MORE INTERSTING THEN THE CONTEXT.
I don't know what you were watching, but throughout the middle parts, it shows them getting through several challenges with Ngai Tin Hung and later Charmaine and Joe in order to guess what, make progress with the company.
Well i dont know wat ur READING because I said the film was jumpy, (jumping to random scenes) i did say it was getting exciting and the mere excitement became a let down. YES BUT MY POINT EXACTLY, IS THAT THEY DRAGGED ON WITH JOE. AND OF COURSE, IF YOUR GOING TO SAY 'Well its a 60 episode serie' THEN MY POINT IS THAT THEY SHOULDNT OF MADE THE STUPID FILM SO LONG! HOG WAS SHORTER AND MORE CAPTIVATING.
I would deem a crappy cast as one with NO ONE being able to act well, but since you named like half of the cast as being able to act, is it really a crappy cast?
Yes, but DOL got loads of nominations for Best Male Actors as well as other categories. It's interesting you left that part out.
HALF THE CAST? THIS ENTIRE PRODUCTION HAS MORE THAN 20 SUPPORTING/MAIN CHARACTERS. CLEARLY YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE TERM "HALF" cos quite frankly half of twenty is 10. i sed about 6 or 7 (btw, i forgot to mention Ron, Toby is improving, but needs more experience, which is the opportunity they giving her) BUT if you didnt realize, i named the good actors/actresses in my perspective. BTW: U SED I LEFT OUT THE MALE ACTORS. HOG ALSO GOT NOMINATED FOR MALE ACTORS TOO! SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I LEFT IT OUT? WELL ITS A BECAUSE A SERIE IS NOT JUDGED UPON ONE OR TWO PEOPLE! ITS JUDGED UPON EVERYONE IN THE SERIE AND HOW THEY PORTRAY THEIR CHARACTER. SEEING SO, DOL ONLY HAS MALE NOMINATIONS? SO IS THIS GETTING THROUGH YOUR HEAD?
Anyway, some people say Drive of Life is boring and dragging, but yet I've been watching continuously up to eppie 51 now, while with Heart of Greed, I stopped somewhere say in eppie 8 or so and still haven't gone back to watch.
I dont really care whether you've gone back to watch HOG, but i am saying that you can't plainly judge a series without even watching the ENTIRE SERIES! because you would have missed the peaking point! So obviously your going to favour DOL. IM sure im not the only person who had high expectations for the film. I think i've made my points..
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I said REPETITIVE! NOT COMPETITIVE! there IS a difference!
Dude, chill out. It’s a mistype. I don't think the relationships are THAT REPETITIVE. Happy?
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WELL SEEING IT IS A 60 EPISODE SERIE, PEOPLE DO HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS. And through out the world, everyone judges a book by a cover. BUT SOMETIMES THE COVERS MORE INTERSTING THEN THE CONTEXT.
Sure people can have high expectations, but that’s hardly enough to judge whether a serie is good or bad just solely on it not meeting your individual expectations or I guess, in your terms, judge a book by a cover or whatever. To me, saying it’s too long and dragging with Joe and Charmaine, or that HOG is better, or people are not nominated, doesn’t really offer any reasons that it is inferior to HOG because other people can say the same for HOG. I guess what I mean is that I don't understand fully why DOL sucks based on just those reasons you named.
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Well i dont know wat ur READING because I said the film was jumpy, (jumping to random scenes) i did say it was getting exciting and the mere excitement became a let down.
YES BUT MY POINT EXACTLY, IS THAT THEY DRAGGED ON WITH JOE. AND OF COURSE, IF YOUR GOING TO SAY 'Well its a 60 episode serie' THEN MY POINT IS THAT THEY SHOULDNT OF MADE THE STUPID FILM SO LONG! HOG WAS SHORTER AND MORE CAPTIVATING.
YES BUT MY POINT EXACTLY, IS THAT THEY DRAGGED ON WITH JOE. AND OF COURSE, IF YOUR GOING TO SAY 'Well its a 60 episode serie' THEN MY POINT IS THAT THEY SHOULDNT OF MADE THE STUPID FILM SO LONG! HOG WAS SHORTER AND MORE CAPTIVATING.
Well if you explained it better in your previous post, than I wouldn’t think your statement is implying otherwise. And I’m still confused with what you’re saying with the first statement.
“HOG was shorter and more captivating.” Maybe, but I’ve read some posts saying the plot for HOG was ridiculous and dragging too.
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HALF THE CAST? THIS ENTIRE PRODUCTION HAS MORE THAN 20 SUPPORTING/MAIN CHARACTERS. CLEARLY YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE TERM "HALF" cos quite frankly half of twenty is 10. i sed about 6 or 7 (btw, i forgot to mention Ron, Toby is improving, but needs more experience, which is the opportunity they giving her) BUT if you didnt realize, i named the good actors/actresses in my perspective. BTW: U SED I LEFT OUT THE MALE ACTORS. HOG ALSO GOT NOMINATED FOR MALE ACTORS TOO! SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I LEFT IT OUT? WELL ITS A BECAUSE A SERIE IS NOT JUDGED UPON ONE OR TWO PEOPLE! ITS JUDGED UPON EVERYONE IN THE SERIE AND HOW THEY PORTRAY THEIR CHARACTER. SEEING SO, DOL ONLY HAS MALE NOMINATIONS? SO IS THIS GETTING THROUGH YOUR HEAD?
Ok, maybe not half the cast, but half of the main leads. Even if so, you named a whole bunch of people, I think it’s weird to call it a crappy cast when you praised that many people who are leads.
Yes, it’s totally getting through my head….obviously there are no female leads nominated for DOL, thus, DOL has awful acting and bad plot LOL
I agree with you that a series shouldn’t be judge on just one or two people, but it also doesn’t mean if they are not nominated, that their performance wasn’t good in that particular serie, just that their performance was better in other series.
And you do noticed that this year, people can only be nominated for one serie per category? Charmaine, Sheren, and even Jessica are nominated for other series. Though Gigi Wong and Toby are nominated for Best Supporting and Most Improved.
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I dont really care whether you've gone back to watch HOG, but i am saying that you can't plainly judge a series without even watching the ENTIRE SERIES! because you would have missed the peaking point! So obviously your going to favour DOL. IM sure im not the only person who had high expectations for the film. I think i've made my points..
I don’t care whether you care that I gone back to watch HOG. I just mentioned it because I was thinking why people like you say DOL is boring and drags on and on, but yet I can continue on with such a boring and dragging serie compared with the great HOG.
True, I can’t judge HOG without even watching the whole thing, but yet I never did say HOG was not good in my posts. I’m just responding to your post about how awful DOL is. Maybe when I watch HOG, and I will try to do so before the anniversary, I would like it more than DOL, but still I think my opinions about DOL would still pretty much be the same.
Hmm, My vote goes to HOG. I find the storyline of HOG more heartwarming than DOL and the cast is better. Also, I find that HOG does show how families do fight and how they try and solve it, making the storyline really heartwarming. As for DOL, I found it abit draggy, thus my vote goes to HOG.
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Dude, chill out. It’s a mistype. I don't think the relationships are THAT REPETITIVE. Happy?
Sure people can have high expectations, but that’s hardly enough to judge whether a serie is good or bad just solely on it not meeting your individual expectations or I guess, in your terms, judge a book by a cover or whatever. To me, saying it’s too long and dragging with Joe and Charmaine, or that HOG is better, or people are not nominated, doesn’t really offer any reasons that it is inferior to HOG because other people can say the same for HOG. I guess what I mean is that I don't understand fully why DOL sucks based on just those reasons you named.
Well if you explained it better in your previous post, than I wouldn’t think your statement is implying otherwise. And I’m still confused with what you’re saying with the first statement.
B.^Kawaii: Well I"ll try to explain better. What I"m trying to say is that I believe DOL would have been better off cutting it to less episodes, and cut out the unnecessary parts that lead us no where. I also think they're cast should have been minimised because the director is not focusing or working with the characters enough. Of course, mains will have bigger parts, but there were so many mains that each person's story/life is moving on a little slow, and seeing that this is a drama/series, they can't make it second to second like Bold and the Beautiful. Ok if you want me to say it, then fine DOL has a good cast, good storyline and good everything. I actaully do think the storyline is good and fresh, but the director certainly didnt bring out the best of it. What I'm really trying to say is that why does everyone think DOl is so fabulous just because its a grand production with a huge cast! Btw: I can't quite get how you mispelt repetitive to competitive. there is quite a difference with rep and comp
“HOG was shorter and more captivating.” Maybe, but I’ve read some posts saying the plot for HOG was ridiculous and dragging too.
Ok, maybe not half the cast, but half of the main leads. Even if so, you named a whole bunch of people, I think it’s weird to call it a crappy cast when you praised that many people who are leads.
B.^Kawaii: There were many leads and so there are other leads and supporters that in my opinion, ruined the series. eg: Jessica Hsuan, I'm actually quite sick of her playing the same dumb naive role, like in dicey business. I need to see something fresh. I also dislike Gigi's acting, but we can not argue on people's acting because they're are our point of views.
Yes, it’s totally getting through my head….obviously there are no female leads nominated for DOL, thus, DOL has awful acting and bad plot LOL
B.^Kawaii: I never said DOL had a bad plotline, in fact, i think its storyline was better than HOG's. But once again the director set the movie out quite poorly.
I agree with you that a series shouldn’t be judge on just one or two people, but it also doesn’t mean if they are not nominated, that their performance wasn’t good in that particular serie, just that their performance was better in other series.
And you do noticed that this year, people can only be nominated for one serie per category? Charmaine, Sheren, and even Jessica are nominated for other series. Though Gigi Wong and Toby are nominated for Best Supporting and Most Improved.
I don’t care whether you care that I gone back to watch HOG. I just mentioned it because I was thinking why people like you say DOL is boring and drags on and on, but yet I can continue on with such a boring and dragging serie compared with the great HOG.
B.^Kawaii: That doesn't make sense. "I don’t care whether you care that I gone back to watch HOG."
I said I don't care if you go back to watch HOG, so why would you care or not care that I don't care. No offence, but I don't quite get any of your points, because your supporting points all refer to boring and dragging.
True, I can’t judge HOG without even watching the whole thing, but yet I never did say HOG was not good in my posts. I’m just responding to your post about how awful DOL is. Maybe when I watch HOG, and I will try to do so before the anniversary, I would like it more than DOL, but still I think my opinions about DOL would still pretty much be the same.
B.^Kawaii: Im sorry if I have sounded rude or offending at any times, I apologise sincerely if you are offended but I like to make my points and justify them against critics. =]
Sure people can have high expectations, but that’s hardly enough to judge whether a serie is good or bad just solely on it not meeting your individual expectations or I guess, in your terms, judge a book by a cover or whatever. To me, saying it’s too long and dragging with Joe and Charmaine, or that HOG is better, or people are not nominated, doesn’t really offer any reasons that it is inferior to HOG because other people can say the same for HOG. I guess what I mean is that I don't understand fully why DOL sucks based on just those reasons you named.
Well if you explained it better in your previous post, than I wouldn’t think your statement is implying otherwise. And I’m still confused with what you’re saying with the first statement.
B.^Kawaii: Well I"ll try to explain better. What I"m trying to say is that I believe DOL would have been better off cutting it to less episodes, and cut out the unnecessary parts that lead us no where. I also think they're cast should have been minimised because the director is not focusing or working with the characters enough. Of course, mains will have bigger parts, but there were so many mains that each person's story/life is moving on a little slow, and seeing that this is a drama/series, they can't make it second to second like Bold and the Beautiful. Ok if you want me to say it, then fine DOL has a good cast, good storyline and good everything. I actaully do think the storyline is good and fresh, but the director certainly didnt bring out the best of it. What I'm really trying to say is that why does everyone think DOl is so fabulous just because its a grand production with a huge cast! Btw: I can't quite get how you mispelt repetitive to competitive. there is quite a difference with rep and comp
“HOG was shorter and more captivating.” Maybe, but I’ve read some posts saying the plot for HOG was ridiculous and dragging too.
Ok, maybe not half the cast, but half of the main leads. Even if so, you named a whole bunch of people, I think it’s weird to call it a crappy cast when you praised that many people who are leads.
B.^Kawaii: There were many leads and so there are other leads and supporters that in my opinion, ruined the series. eg: Jessica Hsuan, I'm actually quite sick of her playing the same dumb naive role, like in dicey business. I need to see something fresh. I also dislike Gigi's acting, but we can not argue on people's acting because they're are our point of views.
Yes, it’s totally getting through my head….obviously there are no female leads nominated for DOL, thus, DOL has awful acting and bad plot LOL
B.^Kawaii: I never said DOL had a bad plotline, in fact, i think its storyline was better than HOG's. But once again the director set the movie out quite poorly.
I agree with you that a series shouldn’t be judge on just one or two people, but it also doesn’t mean if they are not nominated, that their performance wasn’t good in that particular serie, just that their performance was better in other series.
And you do noticed that this year, people can only be nominated for one serie per category? Charmaine, Sheren, and even Jessica are nominated for other series. Though Gigi Wong and Toby are nominated for Best Supporting and Most Improved.
I don’t care whether you care that I gone back to watch HOG. I just mentioned it because I was thinking why people like you say DOL is boring and drags on and on, but yet I can continue on with such a boring and dragging serie compared with the great HOG.
B.^Kawaii: That doesn't make sense. "I don’t care whether you care that I gone back to watch HOG."
I said I don't care if you go back to watch HOG, so why would you care or not care that I don't care. No offence, but I don't quite get any of your points, because your supporting points all refer to boring and dragging.
True, I can’t judge HOG without even watching the whole thing, but yet I never did say HOG was not good in my posts. I’m just responding to your post about how awful DOL is. Maybe when I watch HOG, and I will try to do so before the anniversary, I would like it more than DOL, but still I think my opinions about DOL would still pretty much be the same.
B.^Kawaii: Im sorry if I have sounded rude or offending at any times, I apologise sincerely if you are offended but I like to make my points and justify them against critics. =]
dats a really tough choice to choose between heart of greed or drive of life both are interesting series n both hav ltos of main characters n casts in it dats a touch choice i duno.
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B.^Kawaii: Well I"ll try to explain better. What I"m trying to say is that I believe DOL would have been better off cutting it to less episodes, and cut out the unnecessary parts that lead us no where. I also think they're cast should have been minimised because the director is not focusing or working with the characters enough……
I think the cast is huge too, but I think the director did a good job finding a balance between everyone’s stories. I like how they focus on a particular story, film everyone that is dealing with that part, before moving on to a different storyline.
I guess cutting out some scenes may help too. I do find some of the scenes dealing with cars a bit boring, like how Raymond first went to China to work with his uncle and they were showing him the different areas in the factory. But even though those parts are a bit boring, I can’t say they are unnecessary because it builds up to the point where Raymond could help fix the problems of the company and to get people to trust him again.
Hmm….were there any other specific parts that you thought were unnecessary?
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B.^Kawaii: There were many leads and so there are other leads and supporters that in my opinion, ruined the series. eg: Jessica Hsuan, I'm actually quite sick of her playing the same dumb naive role, like in dicey business. I need to see something fresh. I also dislike Gigi's acting, but we can not argue on people's acting because they're are our point of views.
I don’t like Jessica’s character in here that much, but I think this character is very different compared to other characters she portrayed before, and it’s actually quite refreshing. I guess in DOL and DB, her character likes to be swept up in romance, but in Dicey Business, she and Michael Mui were in two different worlds. I think her character also doesn’t completely trust Michael Mui, but she loves him passionately with some restraint. But here, she completely trusts and love Joe without question. Not to mention character-wise, Jessica in DB was sometimes a gambler, or an average person, while in DOL, her character is more capable professionally and belongs to the prestigious Wah family.
I’ll tell you what kind of bothered me just a little about the cast. Before this, I watched Dicey Business, and Jess and Michael were lovers, and now they play uncle and niece in DOL. So that was a little bit weird, but then they don't have a lot of scenes together.
B.^Kawaii, I must also apologize if I sounded rude or offensive in my previous posts too. Thanks for making your points even though I don’t completely understand what you’re getting at, but I do understand a bit more now compared to before. Even though I disagree with you about DOL, I do enjoy reading your posts.
DOL, the cast alone can beat HOG. HOG is good too but the annoying laughs of big bao and little bao made me want to throw up. i hate it whenever the laugh, i just want to slap them and tell them to shut the f up.
Can't believe I've never posted here...
They are both good in their own ways.
Plot: I have to admit, that TDOL is more sophisticated in plot development so yes in that sense it's better than HOG. Then again, keep in mind HOG was edited a lot to how it is now. I think from hearing the rumours, HOG could have potentially been a better storyline than what it is now. The problem with HOG's storyline is that they run 2 stories parallel to each other. Linda's side and the Tong family. It doesn't flow together. I get the feeling Seurng Joi Sum was emphasized in the series and took up too much time at the sacrifice of the Tong family stories.
Length: HOG was better at 40 episodes and I can see TDOL cutting down to 40 as well. TDOL did drag. It wasn't going into details but having the plot unnecessarily lengthened by having their characters do this, then changing their mind...going in constant circles.
Casts: HOG. Their group chemistry esp the Tong family is much stronger than the bonding in TDOL. Just because TDOL has more names doesn't mean a lot.
They are both good in their own ways.
Plot: I have to admit, that TDOL is more sophisticated in plot development so yes in that sense it's better than HOG. Then again, keep in mind HOG was edited a lot to how it is now. I think from hearing the rumours, HOG could have potentially been a better storyline than what it is now. The problem with HOG's storyline is that they run 2 stories parallel to each other. Linda's side and the Tong family. It doesn't flow together. I get the feeling Seurng Joi Sum was emphasized in the series and took up too much time at the sacrifice of the Tong family stories.
Length: HOG was better at 40 episodes and I can see TDOL cutting down to 40 as well. TDOL did drag. It wasn't going into details but having the plot unnecessarily lengthened by having their characters do this, then changing their mind...going in constant circles.
Casts: HOG. Their group chemistry esp the Tong family is much stronger than the bonding in TDOL. Just because TDOL has more names doesn't mean a lot.
For me, I wouldn't say either of the series exceeded the other in terms of acting, plot, storyline etc. Actually they came quite close for me, personally.
HOG: As fungyifanatic said, HOG has potential do better, because their storyline wasn't developed as well, technically speaking the core of the drama happened at the few ending episodes. Nevertheless, it was a good show, lots of relief humour, strong chemistry and bonding between the Tong family, extremely amusing to watch the family laugh and joke. I have to agree with fungyifanatic that the two distinctive storylines were not balanced as well, it was the whole Tong family as one line, the other was Linda, Yoyo, Raymond and Moses, since Moses was an overlap in both storylines, he had so much screentime, the whole series seemed like it emphasized Linda and Moses a little too much. And I just noticed Raymond never even interacted with the Tong family...I think they could have changed the story a little, I wanted to see the entire crew interact with one another (like TDOL) instead of forming two separate lines.
TDOL: The best chemistry I saw was Charray, I really liked that bit of the series, was looking forward to see more Charray parts throughout the series. Fenolie...Ron and Toby had such limited screentime....it was all so focused on the three brothers and Joe Ma. However, I think the whole car-making dream was really touching, and it would have been a better series if the storyline progressed a little quicker and the events were more condensed. Honestly, the overall plot and storyline was quite attractive, especially the grand cast (they all did a great job). The planning was done really well, and the whole HK story of the past 10 years seemed a like a great selling point.
There were flaws in both series, but I don't think we need to pick every single one of those out...as long as we enjoyed the series, there's really no need to actually every aspect of the series like its storyline, performance etc. After all, TV is entertainment~~~!!
Btw, I just noticed that Ray was in both series, wow, he's getting heavily promoted (but I really like him in TDOL!!)
And my vote went to HOG, it seems like HK viewers share different tastes than overseas audience, the ratings of the two series varied so greatly, sorta surprised that TDOL was better liked (although results were close)
HOG: As fungyifanatic said, HOG has potential do better, because their storyline wasn't developed as well, technically speaking the core of the drama happened at the few ending episodes. Nevertheless, it was a good show, lots of relief humour, strong chemistry and bonding between the Tong family, extremely amusing to watch the family laugh and joke. I have to agree with fungyifanatic that the two distinctive storylines were not balanced as well, it was the whole Tong family as one line, the other was Linda, Yoyo, Raymond and Moses, since Moses was an overlap in both storylines, he had so much screentime, the whole series seemed like it emphasized Linda and Moses a little too much. And I just noticed Raymond never even interacted with the Tong family...I think they could have changed the story a little, I wanted to see the entire crew interact with one another (like TDOL) instead of forming two separate lines.
TDOL: The best chemistry I saw was Charray, I really liked that bit of the series, was looking forward to see more Charray parts throughout the series. Fenolie...Ron and Toby had such limited screentime....it was all so focused on the three brothers and Joe Ma. However, I think the whole car-making dream was really touching, and it would have been a better series if the storyline progressed a little quicker and the events were more condensed. Honestly, the overall plot and storyline was quite attractive, especially the grand cast (they all did a great job). The planning was done really well, and the whole HK story of the past 10 years seemed a like a great selling point.
There were flaws in both series, but I don't think we need to pick every single one of those out...as long as we enjoyed the series, there's really no need to actually every aspect of the series like its storyline, performance etc. After all, TV is entertainment~~~!!
Btw, I just noticed that Ray was in both series, wow, he's getting heavily promoted (but I really like him in TDOL!!)
And my vote went to HOG, it seems like HK viewers share different tastes than overseas audience, the ratings of the two series varied so greatly, sorta surprised that TDOL was better liked (although results were close)
i think DOL is too draggy,with so mani characters involving in the fueds.yea,it may hav quite a lot
of a-star lists actors & actresses in DOL,but i think the flow of the storyline isnt that gd,as comapred to HOG.though im a fan of charray,i think its reali too draggy & sumtimes,it just take a one-big-round
kind of drama.
though HOG isnt that reali gd as RDOV ,but its better than DOL.the way the conflict goes & the way it flows.
though it has quite a weak ending,but the casts did a reali gd job,esp moses,ha yu & lee si kei.
its reali much more heart-warming & frustrating than DOL.
of a-star lists actors & actresses in DOL,but i think the flow of the storyline isnt that gd,as comapred to HOG.though im a fan of charray,i think its reali too draggy & sumtimes,it just take a one-big-round
kind of drama.
though HOG isnt that reali gd as RDOV ,but its better than DOL.the way the conflict goes & the way it flows.
though it has quite a weak ending,but the casts did a reali gd job,esp moses,ha yu & lee si kei.
its reali much more heart-warming & frustrating than DOL.
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