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Translations by miss scarlett @ http://asianfanatics.net/forum





SM: Super Junior was never a permanent group

At approximately 4:00 PM on the afternoon of the 24th, over 270 high school and college students swarmed towards the official SM building and formed a "Against Adding a New Member to Super Junior Joint Committee." After SM Entertainment subtly announced a plan for adding a new member to Super Junior, fans immediately objected and formed a silent protest.

Wearing surgical masks, holding signs that plastered "13" all over the board, sitting in straight lines, they silently protested against the action. Some raised signs and said, "SJONLY13" and "SM what do you want?" and other similar words.

Nearby there was a huge sign hanging from a tree, with the words, "We are not naive children causing trouble. We are guarding the treasured courage. My name is FAN." It took well over $1000 won to create the sign.

When SM created Super Junior, they publicized the group with the tagline, "The gate towards stardom in Asia" and stated that this group is a project group with an uncertain amount of members. Currently Super Junior has 13 members, however this was not what the fans want.

According to one of the protesters, although Super Junior was originally a project group, after the release of "U" last year in June, SM announced through the media that Super Junior will stay as a permanent group. Therefore having plans to add the Chinese HENRY and debuting SUPER JUNIOR-CHINA is lying to the fans.

Another student said, "We do not want Henry or anyone else to be added in Super Junior. We want Super Junior to be a safe 13-membered group. We support Super Junior to target overseas markets, but not with Henry. Henry was not originally a Super Junior member. We will protect Super Junior's name." She also added, "We've started the protest on the 21st and at that time we had over 400 people. We've also sent many messages to SM about the situation, but they did not reply. We will continue to protest until SM gives us an official answer."

For this, SM said, "We never stated that Super Junior was a permanent group. The fans had it misunderstood. Super Junior was formed as a gate to stardom in Asia, therefore our Chinese trainees like HAN KYUNG were added."

They also added, "With the formation of Super Junior-China and doing activities overseas, more people will recognize Super Junior and it will help the group create a greater popularity. We hope fans will continue to support Super Junior."

On another side, some 50 people supported Super Junior to have an extra member, and held signs with words, "We support Henry's addition," to create more controversy.

Future activites of Super Junior and fans' interaction will be closely followed by the media.

well kihyun [i think it was him...] wasn't exactly an "original member" either. humph. what's so bad about adding another member? it'll just make the band even better.

Hm...I think that SM should hold on the thought of adding another member if its causing so much trouble. Henry would be a nice add, but I totally don't see him with the other 13 members. I'm confused now, is there gonna be a SUJU-China?? Cause then wont Hankyung be a part of that too?

^^ his name is KYUHYUN.. he's different from what is happening now.when he joined suju, they were still a project group so even if they did add or rotate members fans can't to anything cause they know its going to happen. BUT after kyuhyun was added it was announced that suju will be a permanent group with 13 members.

and now sm are saying fans were misunderstanding. wtf is wrong with sm. it was in the news that rumors of suju 06 07 were false. so why are they saying they didn't say that??

adding a member is bad because if they let sm add a new member then they'll continue adding making them a project group again. soon they'll start subtracting. it wouldn't be the same anymore..!! also why would someone want to join a group that was together for almost 3 years and experience up and downs together. wouldn't they feel weird? and why cant they just debut in a whole new group to make things easier for both side??

they dont need suju china to make them recognize in china. they already have a big fanbase! sm are making things worse if they have so-called suju members there that isn't even part of suju. and china fans are against the idea of it. if they do want to expand their then make a subgroup with the suju members not some random trainees or whatever.

E.L.F fighting.

Do these fans not realize that Suju is simply a money-making machine for SM?

No company executive gives a crap if certain fans want to "protect SJ's name" or whatever since 1) they OWN SJ so they can do whatever they want and 2) there's a big enough demand for SJ throughout Asia that adding more members to represent SJ in various areas will only generate income.

i think 13 members in a band is too many already... they need to cut like half the members out... no offense.... like what the hell do half the people do in the band????

im sorry if i sound ignorant.. as you see im not their fan lol

but like...was there ever a 'real band' that has more than what...5..6 members... the most i can see is 7... after than is like... what do they do? dance??? i mean and if in a song they each only sing like one line.. i don't see what's the point

but fans are the one that are supporting them by buying their products. without the fans support, they wouldn't be where they are today. and if fans don't like it they would stop supporting them and if they do, where are they going to get their money from?? and most of all sm will lose money.

suju dance, sing, host, dj, act and many more.
there's alot of members thats why they have mini-subgroup within the suju members like suju trot and suju kry..

azn_goodies: how is this protest stupid?? dbsk fans did the same thing and it did worked. when sm announced before that dbsk was going to be rotating/spliting/add new members their fans did the same thing as what elf is doing right now PROTEST! it worked for dbsk didn't it?? so the fans does make a different.

i don't want henry to be added into super junior, but for a very different reason. henry is EXTREMELY talented. he would only be overshadowed if he's placed in such a large group like suju who have debuted years before he has. it would be better if henry was placed as a soloist, or a group of his own with fewer members. just look at kim hyo yeon of seo nyeo shi dae. she's an awesome dancer but it's hard to notice her talent since the group's so crowded.


and isn't it cleared some time ago that super junior china wouldn't be comprised of henry? i saw something like that, maybe in z-degrees.net.

the bad thing about this is henry could develop antis already with this situation. some korean fans go to extreme measures such as bashing a star just to create some kind of protection around the stars they support. henry hasn't even released a single yet. *sigh* sm does so many stupid things sometimes. -___-;;

wow. this is the most stupid protest i have ever heard of. i don't think its the fan's decision on whether or not another member is added to suju or not.

i feel sorry for henry. he's being bashed by all these fans when he has no say in this at all. sm controls everything.

i don't like the fact that they're going to add another member. I mean, the members had already a hard time to get some lines in their songs. And some of them just sings when chorus. Adding a 14th member will worsen the case. But well, it still SM that holds the decision. But i still don't like the fact that they're planning on adding another member. They're already big. Really Big. Well that's all i can say for the matter. Ja Matta Ne.

xx. Fujiwara Ayumi

I want to LOL so hard!!! This is so stupid and childish news and the most lame protest I have ever seen ! HAHAHA

Since the beginning I knew Suju would be a group that's not going to stick together, with time there's going to be new members added and perhaps some members will leave when they get enough experience to go solo ... do they really expect the Super Juniors to be able to stick together as long as Shinhwa did...? LMAO NO WAY!

in a way, it is nice to have a new member, but in a way, not so much because originally, it was 12 right? then they added kyunyun which then made 13 and now they want to add henry? well, not to insult anyone or sm entertainment, even though i am chinese, i don't think they should add henry because if is fame becomes greater than han geng, it won't be fair for han geng because he has been in super junior much longer and i think it is more unique to only have one chinese in the group because it makes super junior special like it has been for the pass 2 years!!!! but otherwise, you can just ignore my thoughts because everyone thinks of this problem differently. but i also think super junior may loose a lot of fans because of this because for sure, people will fight back this time even though it didn't work with kyunyun.

You don't think SM would have already taken that into consideration before adding members? What I'm trying to say is that it's apparent that Suju's present goal is to expand into other markets beside Korea. Adding new members, as long as they carry the SJ name, will gain revenue for SM. So what if fans protest and say they won't support the present group? At the end of the day Korean fans aren't the only people who are willing to support SJ since non-Korean fans will replace any losses and sooner or later the same fans who are protesting now have to support SM's decision for expansion ANYWAYS cuz nothing will change.

dont these girls go to school? or at least have some hw to do afterschool?
How is this consider a quiet protest? they basically abandon school works just to form a mob outside of the building.... and what is with the masks? are they sick now?
Everything in the music world is all for money and suju is no exception. These girls actually thinks that their protests will work. .. if a 14th member will bring in more money then SM will do it no matter what the world say.
Besides these girls should look back.. remember when KyuHyun was announced as the 13th member? some fans freaked out about that too and said suju is a 12 member band they dont need another one but look at how many fans he has now, those same people are probably in the crowd saying that 13 is NOW the real suju....

The thing about E.L.F is they are a lot more hype on these things then action at times. Though I'll give them the attacking on Cyworld thing. But outside the internet they do so little. Like even DBSK fans stopped being SM products for a time. And E.L.F decided against that. >.> And when they need fan votes E.L.F doesn't do much. They also didn't bother watching the Super Junior movie, or donate a lot of money for Super Junior on that one thing...it was about the charities and Super Juniors doing something every other week.

I'm happy to see people approving of Henry when he has so many rioting against his addition. Henry keep in there kiddo. Fighting all the way. (You're probably older then me though...lol!)

How is adding an extra member make the band better? Are you saying that Super Junior will be "the best" when it has 20 members? 100 members? And Kyuhyun's situation was different. Before Kyuhyun, Super Junior was a project group. After Kyuhyun, Super Junior became a permament group.


There will be a Super Junior-China. Henry and Hankyung will be the core members of this subgroup. This subgroup will also have some other SJ members.


They are already well recognized in China, especially Hankyung since he's now finally getting some top spots in news articles. The problem is that not ALL members can be in China 24/7. The rest of the members still have PLENTY of other stuff to do in Korea, especially Super Junior-T. That's why SM is planning for a subgroup, as a lazy representation that Super Junior as a whole is making debut in China.



It is too many. But guess what? They're doing GREAT. When Suju first debuted I was doubting their popularity, thinking if they would ever catch up to DBSK, but I was wrong. They're doing better than I expected. Apparently, the idea of creating a large boy band is working. Even JYP is planning to debut a large 12 member group. It's amazing to see the 13 boys harmonizing so well together and creating fantastic dance performances.

I laugh at how people say that 13 people dancing on stage is too confusing. Um... even bands with lesser members like DBSK, Shinhwa, SS501... use back-up dancers in their performances... it's probably even over 13 people. And those dances are not confusing?


I don't think this protest is stupid at all. The fans need to let this out.

So you're saying that the fans shouldn't do anything about it? They should just let SM add a 14th member, a 17th member, a 100th member? Um... ok.


A quiet protest is when you sit down and hold up signs and say nothing. A regular protest is when you start shouting, yelling, or maybe even raid the SM building. The Suju fans did not do that.

Kyuhyun's situation was COMPLETELY different. When Kyuhyun came in, Suju was still a project group. This time it's different. SM already announced that they will not change Super Junior whatsoever and they will stay as a PERMANENT group. But now they're adding an extra member. If fans accepted this, SM will use another sneaky technique to add in a 15th member, a 16th member. I mean, doing this saves money, right? That's the reason why SM wanted to create a male version of Morning Musume the first place. But sadly, the fans became too attached the group and the members themselves became too attached to each other (Leeteuk, the leader, said his happiest moment was when SM announced that Super Junior will be a permanent group and he cried when he had to talk about Suju being a project group) and this project of a male version of Morning Musume flopped.

A protest is STILL a protest. Even if it doesn't work, we now know that a 14th member is not wanted by many.


Henry's pretty young actually lol. He's an 89er.

i agree to the protest,because i dont like henry or any other else,,i like that super junior will remain 13 to additonal,,if SM entertaiment will going to continue there plan,,ill suggest that super junior FIND ONOTHER COMPANY,because SM entertainment is CRAZY,,super junior will popular because of there talent,not because of there company,,SM stuff is useless and crazy they dont think that super junior are a human only they are hurting because of what their company doing to them,,,,




SM ENTERTAIMENT!!!think first because we a FANS of super junior are not joking with your stupid and crazy plan,,

hmm... so super junior isn't a permanent group.i can see that. maybe it was meant for the members to be in sub groups then once in a while join together to compose something. suju has already enough members to be their own sm town, but suju style. whether suju is or isn't a permanent group, sm ent. owns them and they can do what the heck they want as long as the money is coming in

to tell you the truth, i think the way miss scarlett is thinking is quite right. why does super junior need so many members? i think 13 members is plenty enough. they are the best and if you add more people into the group, it will just harm their stability and their fame.

SM did announce that suju is a permanent group with the addition of kyuhyun.
but now SM is saying it was all a misunderstanding is a joke..
it was even on newspaper and even eeteuk announce that they weren't a project group anymore.
so why is SM taking back what they told us fans 2 years ago? ridiculous.. !

also there is nothing wrong with fans voicing out their opinions.
if it were your favorite artist being treated like that i don't think you'll sit quietly and watch this happen when you don't like it.

vv. umm NO. leaving them the way it is, is the best answer!.
reducing or subtracting will cause a bigger problem.

hmm...how come I heard somewhere that SM thought of replacing 5 of the members???

I thought a group consist of 13 members are already huge...adding another member would make them huger...since there are many fan girls in Korea. The more guys you put on stage, the crazier those fans are. I think Henry would better be off solo are be in another group. If he is in SUJU...he's just gonna be another guy on stage dancing around...and if he's lucky...he might get to sing solo for a few seconds. SUJU is soo big with 13 members that you don't know some of the members even existed. They are being overshadowed by the popular ones.

SM should just create a spin off boy group of SUJU...since boy bands are pretty popular in Korea. That ought to keep the girls happy....

eeh it isnt a permant group, how odd, lol i didnt know that. But seriously how many members does SM want to add in Suju, 13 to be is already a big bunch of people on stage.
And this must be hard for henry too, adding in some group that already known each other for awhile. Can't they just create a new group or let Henry go solo or something. And the Sub group Suju China is such a weird project, isnt it better if the WHOLE group go to china for promotion...

Well I do feel sorry for Henry... since if he is added, he'll probably have antis from those who want SuJu to stay as a 13 member band. But seriously... SM isn't satisfied with already 13 members? SM & their money-making plans eh...

WOW what a thing to protest about? how stupid...these girls should be protesting something more meaningful like the fact why there is so much suicidal deaths in Korea..something with a meaning..


Anyways I already think Suju has too many members I mean 13!!..that's a lot for a group, funny thing is I know all there names..lol cause I do like Suju but now it's gonna be 14...I actually don't mind cause I like Henry and I think he is very talented...so it's great for him to be with a group that's already very popular but then again like someone mentioned he'll get overshadowed by the other members..

But anywho again I think this protest was stupid and meaningless...

awww...i feel sooo bad for henry...he is like REJECTED.....-.- and it won't even matter if there's an extra member any way, cause they already have 13 members and tahts alot adding one more won't really affect anything

but then by adding more its going to be even bigger and they are most likely to be ignored or overshadow by others. so why join a group that has already established a status in the entertainment world? if we let sm add now he would continue adding. and soon subtracting.

why cant sm just debut him in a whole new group and they could all debut in china?
sm will make more money!!

and if you feel bad for henry what about suju? how come no one is feeling bad for suju? all those years of training. and how they worked non stop for the past 2 years to get to where they are today. and then some new members would be added and take the popularity they worked for, its unfair to the boys too.!!

i agree!
super junior has worked hard to get where they are now
and to just add members here and there
or use the name super junior is making all their
hard work for nothing

Super Junior is 13.

Honestly, I think this is so stupid. I understand that they feel bad that Sm wants add a new member. BUT a protest for something like this is ridiclus, they should be at school or protesting for something that can make a change for the world.

I totally agree with illusions*, because not
only are they causing a big thing, but I think they are
also hurting Henry's feeling. I feel bad for him, cause he
didn't do anything. But no matter what, I hope that everyone will
still continue supporting Super Junior cause I am,
and also give Henry a break, he have feelings too.
And most importantly, I hope this fuss will soon be over.
Super Junior Fighting!!! Henry Fighting!!!

love always,
Kitty

Oh gawd... cloudy is an ELF?!!? T___T

I've had too many arguments with elves lately. The whole commotion is stupid. Super Junior is allowed to expand however they want. All you elves care about is SuJu and not other people! if you carry on like this there could be another person dead like that girl who commited suicide due to cyber bullying of ELVES!

I thought fans were meant to be supportive of whatever the band does, but it seems not. Are you even fans? If so support them, not cause trouble and commotion. And are you forgetting something? Henry is not joining [Super Junior], he is joining a new subgroup with Hankyung called [Super Junior China]. THEY ARE 2 VERY SEPERATE THINGS. if you weren't complaning about the past 2 subgroups, KRY and TROT then why are you now?

Elves... get over it like you did with Kyu Hyun. Henry's to stay.

i think sm should hold onto henry and create a new band with him in it: a very strong ne wband since he's so talented. the fans will not like change especially after a few years or so of getting familiar with suju. a change will mess up the flow. of course, if sm does choose to add henry, fans will definitely grow to like him, they usually do. i agree with nhxxie...henry would be overshadowed in suju. the other result of adding henry might be that fans ignore henry deliberately as a silent protest. that would be bad.

^ Super Junior-China and Super Junior ARE THE SAME THING. It's still under the name "Super Junior". It still reminds fans of the times when Super Junior was still a project group. Super Junior-KRY and Super Junior-T were different because they did not have a NEW member. And guess what? not only is SM planning to put Henry in Super Junior, but they're also planning to put other TRAINEES in the group.

What the hell does that make Super Junior? A brand.

Honestly, I feel VERY SAD for Henry. I do not think he deserves this kind of attention. I didn't agree with the ELFs when they shouted "13!" during Henry's solo performance with Super Junior. But please, DO NOT ASSUME that the fans are bashing on Henry. They are not. They are unhappy to the fact that SM is planning to put Henry in a group that has already been through so much together--debut, criticism, the fatal conclusion of separating because they were still a project group, and many more. Whether or not it's Henry or someone else, they do not want an extra member. They don't want Super Junior to be a project group again.

And Kyuhyun's decision was completely different. Kyuhyun brought the group together. He took away the first generation of Super Junior and it became the fixed generation of Super Junior with his addition. SM said he would be THE LAST member added to Super Junior. But apparently they lied.

I agree. The ELFs do only care about Super Junior. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE FANS. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE ELFs. Please. All fans are selfish.

If Henry was added to the group, I'm sure we will eventually warm up to him like Kyuhyun. But this isn't the matter anymore. The matter is that SM is RETURNING the statement they released a year ago and pushing Super Junior back to a project group. The fans DO NOT want that.

Ah he is older then me. But only a year. (I'm a 90's kid myself)

Henry fighting no matter what happens to you~ Wheather it be SuJu-China or anything else. Keep fighting and ignore the E.L.F's their just worried about their oppa's. (You know the same one they pull chairs on.)

It's really only a sub-group. Also SM has been losing money these last couple years, I don't think LeeSooMan is really as smart as people crediting him for. >.>

^^ i agree with miss scarlett..



i wasn't going to respond but ELF did not make the girl suicide.

If you actually search it up and read some of the articles. the girl was depressed and she had a fight with her mom the morning before she died. Also she was being bullied at school for losing weight super fast! so don't say its the fans fault. and most star king guest takes pictures with suju members you dont see them killing themselves. she had problems to begin with.



so are you saying that even if they do stuff that we fans dont like we should still support them? we support super junior because of the 13 members in suju. not the name super junior.

wow this is like a debate. o_O

Im not gonna side both ways..two ways got their reasons seriously..

adding another member = NO..
reason: u know Morning Musume added and added and ended up some leaving..well we dont want that to happen..who knows right? Probably when one gets bored of the older ones they gonna kick or something? Thats wrong to do that..

Adding another member = YES...
Reason: Breaking into markets with languages spoken ability, making ppl like fans EXAMPLE: "wow he speaks XX language, im proud of him" might gains more popularity, if u noe what i mean just like some ppl saying "Im not gonna listen to their music cos i dont understand the language" These are examples..so i guess it might be a good way too..

Overall i really feel sad about Henry..hes the INNOCENT ONE!

Hmm... I'm surprised to know about this news actually.
I didn't knew that SM's gonna put other TRAINEES in the group as well.
SM is very selfish lah, all he want is to make more money.
Look at what he did to H.O.T, S.E.S and ShinHwa...

I HAVE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I DO NOT AGREE WITH 'The ELFs do only care about Super Junior. ' I Myself am also E.L.F member BUT I DO NOT BEHAVE LIKE MOST OF THE ELFs.

I think SM Should not add Henry to SJ, NOT because that I am those crazy fans that are sooo over SJ... BUT because 1) SJ is too big a group already... 2) Henry is at disadvantage if he were to be added to SJ because of his experience.

Actually i am always wondering why are fan girls soo crazy in korea over idols... do they actually skip school to keep 'following' their idols??? And how did 'antis' came about?? Antis sounds really ridiculous to me. Don't they have anything better to do? Wasting their life, our planet's resources and causing nonsense troubles to others... =.=

What's more, Henry will get antis if SM decided to add him to SJ.
Crazy fans are sooo scary...
Last of all, I dont see myself as a Fan, but a Supportor.
I am not going to support either side...

Just let those fans out there continue their protest, BUT the final decision lies with SM.

It's not that I don't like Henry, cause I do. But I just think it would be better for him and for Suju to debute in a new group or by himself. I mean, he's talented, but like some of you said. He would only get overshadowed by joining Suju, and with his talent, that is quite a waste. And SM should do something new for a change. Suju's been through a lot, leave them alone. SM gets on my neveres, always creating problems and fusses.
I hope SM think this through...Suju Fighting! Henry Fighting!

I think SM should Let Super Junior as the 13members they are to stay that way and they can succeed on together as for Henry he's talented let it be shown and not add him to a group thats already started and is doing fine for the matter Henry can start solo or maybe form a new group from this years sm trainees if any!

wats up with the 'fans'?

if they really loved their idols like they claim so often, they dont they show it by supporting the WHOLE group, with or without Henry.

poor Henry, it seems like he is the fault for this...and hes not!

friggin LSM! ^%&$#*#$

Henry is better off solo anyway

either or, i am and will continue to support Henry :popcorn:

I don't think that it's fair to add Henry to SuperJunior because all 13 of them started at the same page and eventually gained their popularity so they've earned it themself as SuperJunior. I am not saying that Henry doesn't have talents or what, but SM should let him debut solo or rather in another group (maybe). There are like at least 10 SM trainees that havent debut yet. If SM is gonna put Henry in Suju, it's seem like they don't care about the 13 members at all....they seem to care about debuting Henry and promoting him more...On the other hand, it's not right to Henry either because SuperJunior is a big group like "lxite" said. THey will not be able to show all of their great tallents to the fans...It's a big contraversies...Hopefully, they'll solved this problem soon so Super Junior nor Henry will be hurt! Thanks for the news!

lol, the fans aren't just against henry joining, but they would be against ANY ONE,
whether it's henry or not.

i think LSM made a huge mistake saying that super junior was never a fixed group!
that will definitely make fans even more angry and agitated. freak LSM!

and besides, i thought super junior started out as a project group in 2005 and with the
addition of kyuhyun, they debute OFICIALLY as Super Junior. so why is LSM saying that
Super Junior isn't a permanent group?

i pity henry cause it's not his fault.. he's just an innocent person who's trying to debut
too but LSM is the one who wants to put him in SuJu..

it seems that LSM wants another chinese member in super junior.. to accompany hankyung
in suju-china.. from my point of view..

I personally find that a 13 member group is big enough, without adding more people. I do feel sorry for Henry though, he's like the innocent bystander in this whole situation. Also, if he is added, he does have a disadvantage, with less experience and some people may regarde him in a bias way because they just dont want him in the group... and i really wonder how they have the time to skip school to protest...and what their parents thought, if i ever did that, i'd be dead 0.0

They didn't skip school. This was after school.

I wish the best of luck to Super Junior and Henry. I hope they will be alright.

i love super junior & only 13 of them.
i like henry too but seriously.
when i watched don't don, i was hoping he would be in an another group or go solo.
if it isn't a permenent group, then what were those awards for if it's a project group!?!!?!?!!?
my god i hate LSM.
IF IT WAS A PROJECT GROUP WHY DIDN'T HE MOVE THE MEMEBERS EARLIER?!!!!!!!
SERIOUSLY!
NOW HE DECIDES TO MOVE IT?
ISN'T THAT A BIT TOO LATE?
almost 2 years passed already and they've already gained so many fans.
this still makes me angry.

I don't understand why fans act so fanatical. So they're adding a new member. Big deal! Is it going to taint the others? I don't think so.

Henry is a talented guy and joining SuJu is a great start for him. For heaven's sake he's even CUTE!! What more can they want?

I for one, totally support Henry.

I'm not trying to go against those who only want it to stay as a 13-member group either. I understand it's already quite large and all, but fans don't have to go crazy. Not saying anyone here is just the ones over there.

aint 13 members enough already?

henry can make it on hi own he is very talented

they should just leave super junior the way they are...

Uh...is adding another member so bad?
Yeah there are ppl who wont like the whole 14 member thing but....the world wont end if Henry is added, no ones gonna die bcuz of this (...or maybe someone will some fans are crazy~lol)
I want another member 13 is a big number but theres no point in dying over 150lbs more (give or take....lets take...about 20lbs Lol)

I say Hengry`oppa fighting!

p.s. from my hometown!! T.Dot! (Toronto,Ontario,Canada)...or is it Ottawa? s= JK! ;P

I don't think SM would go through with actually adding Henry into the group, seeing as how they'll lose a majority of their audience. I for one do like Henry, but he should be put into a different group just for the SM trainees rather than SuJu. If they add Henry, what's to stop them from adding more members and getting rid of the older ones like EeTeuk and Heechul? This band shouldn't be a recycled band, and if that were to happen, Super Junior would plummet indeffinitly. I for one would stop listening to them altogether were they to take out any members seeing as how EeTeuk happens to be on of my favorites, as well as to see him upset or Heechul, and see them cry over how before when Super Junior wasn't a "permanent" group made me cry horribly. Super Junior should remain a 13 membered group, but allow Henry to colaberate on songs like he did with Don't Don, as well as to make a group for him and other trainees like I said. Like I said, please don't get me wrong, I love Henry. The way he can play the violin like that! I mean my god that boy is talented! I just think that if they add him, it'll be a slippery sloap to where they start taking older members out and adding younger ones in. That's really the only problem I have with it or can see happening, besides half of Korea and half of the other SuJu fanatic countries disowning SuJu indeffinitly.

Have you all those who supported Henry to be in SuperJunior, feel that is unfair to SuperJunior?
They all trained for 2years[?] before their first debut and they were very tired. They had paid so much effort until they can formed into their own group - SuperJunior. However Henry did not even go through the trainings and he can just join Suju like that? In Dont Don, he was only a guest to play the violin. Ok, Henry may be very poor thing. But i think if he really talented, he can go solo on himself. What the point of joining SuJu?
On the other hand, the SM boss - LeeSooMan has no brain. What makes me think about him was that HE JUST WANT MONEY! If Henry was to become a Soloist, he will sell his own album, and earn more for that LSM. I think more people will support him in this way rather than he joins SuJu.

although we have to doubt what Suju members say sometime cuz it cud be someone else who told them to say it.
i'm not against henry joining because

1. i care for each member individually and although i love suju as a group, if the group change the members would stay the same and i care about that more.

2. SM trainees trained together before they debute and they end up being really close together and if SJ are a rotating group then some of the trainees will have the chance perform, some of the SJ members may still have friends in SM who are still waiting to debut.

3. What's wrong with making more money and turning SJ into a brand name? They could become more successful, have more fans and become more internationally famous. Also the more they sell the more they'll get paid, this will improve their career as artists and open up more oppotunities.

4. i don't see the differance between when kyuhyun was added and henry. Some fans wanted to keep the group with 12 members, but now people will oppose if they tried to take a member out.

5. Would Henry really make it as a solo artist especially in a foreign country- think how hard it would be for him, if he was in SJ than at least he has the other members to help him. Are ELF memebers just saying this to keep him out of SJ, not cuz they generally think he can make it.

6. Yes Henry would be taking some of the credit that SJ has built from their debut till now but do you really think that anyone really wants him to go through the crap that SJ went through when they first debuted? Some were opposing Hankyung as a member cuz he wasn't korean and i don't think dragging henry through that would make anyone happy.

This is what i feel for this situation and although some people may strongly disagree and criticize it, but to me

it's the members who make superjunior into what it is and i love the members more than the group