^ Elaborate on how the judges judged, I want to know.

As for Chen Qiao En losing the award, I honestly felt it was unfair. True, she only appeared in about 4 dramas in her entire acting career (I'm guessing here), but in all of those series she has always given superb performances. You can tell with FTLY and PTTF; they both had the highest ratings in Taiwan. I'm not discrediting that Ariel Lin's acting abilities, but when it comes down to it, her characters have mostly been dull and lackluster. If the awards was solely based on the shows that they appeared in, I don't support Ariel at all. FTLY and PTTF both had waay better storylines. But if it was due to acting, then I can only admit defeat. Not because I think Ariel's acting is better, but because she's done more genres than CQE. CQE need to broaden her acting scope to compete for these awards -- being convincing is not enough anymore.

What I think really made CQE lose, though, is her cavalier attitude towards the awards. I seriously think that voted against her in the finals. The judges probably thought that since she didn't want it badly enough, why bother giving it to her.

As a consolation, though, at least CQE has better looks, love, and career outlook than Ariel. And she's finally recognized as a strong contender, so there's nothing lacking in her life but a title.

QE still has a long career ahead of her. She's one of the actresses who actually has talent so there is no doubt that if she continues to improve and actually take challenging roles, she will be nominated again.

I strongly disagree in regards to Ariel only playing dull characters. I'm assuming those who think this have seen her in all the dramas and movies she has been in order to make such a statement. Her characters in LOCH, Love Contract, TWFX, TL18, etc...they are all stand out roles.
She's played very different characters and done them well. This is why she is widely respected and recognized as an actress. Enough to even do Mainland series.

In the end, their careers shouldn't have mattered. It is their performance in the shows that they were nominated for that matters. I felt that Ariel and QE were the ones who delivered the strongest performances (I didn't see the veteran's show so I can't judge that one) and would have been satisfied with either one of them taking it. Although obviously I favored Ariel.



Harsh but your opinion and I respect it. I'm just very baffled about Ariel's "career outlook" you seem to frown upon. I don't know much about QE so I can't speak about her. But I do know about Ariel and I can tell you that, according to her many costars and Ariel herself, she is very dedicated, professional, and always strives to do her best. She picks the roles she feels she connects with and that she believes she can truly do justice to.
Even after winning the award, she immediately commented on her intention to follow her friend's advice of putting this all aside and not letting it go to her head.



Putting someone down won't make the other person raise up. They should be able to do so on their own.

Oh absolutely, no doubt about this. It's just a shame that she wasn't able to get the award this year, especially since she raised the viewership of FTLY to new heights.




Honestly, that's the problem. I cannot watch a single series of hers' without being baffled as to why she was chosen for the roles. I'm not saying she can't act -- it's just that no matter how hard she tries, her acting never grabs me, which i deduce as the sole reason why I'm not an Ariel fan (though not a hater either). Even with all the genres she has played, she still doesn't have the depth that CQE exhibits. In contrast to her, CQE has always been able to absorb me into her roles even though she only acted in idol dramas. I look forward to seeing her branch out into roles that require more acting skills and development.




Like I said, I'm sure acting mattered, but to me, I didn't think it was a fair game since Ariel has been in more variety of series than CQE, which vastly improved her chances. She may be nominated for ISWAK2 but I'm sure judges consider other factors as well. The fact that CQE acted so nonchalant about the whole thing also greatly decreased her chances.



I acknowledge that you respect my opinion, and I also respect your's. I know Ariel is a very dedicated actress, but I don't see how this is relevant to our conversation. I'm not frowning on Ariel's career outlook; I'm just saying that Joe is probably going to get more jobs. After the recognition she receives from this award ceremony, she can finally break free from her manager who has always questioned her capabilities (and who prevented her from working in numerous activities for a whole year after PTTF). Obviously, Ariel doesn't experience the same type of discrimination, and her workload will probably increase, but not by much (since she works so much now anyways). Versus CQE is probably going to get a lot more job offers than before (hopefully), and thus, job outlook is much better than Ariel's.




I don't know where this came from, but I can assure you that there are many people out there that do seem 'raised up' when they push another down. But I'm not going there. And I'm not putting Ariel down. I never questioned her acting skills. It's an individual opinion -- whether her acting has moved me. If not, I have a right, just as you do, to voice my opinion about her.

In the end that wouldn't matter and there's no proof that she had anything to do with the ratings. What I gathered from going to forums and such is that people were very attracted to the overall story. Personally I find both FTLY and ISWAK to be cute but nothing overly special or outstanding.
But if you enjoy what most Taiwanese dramas bring and are known for, then these are the ones to watch.



We will just have to agree to disagree here
I wasn't a big fan of the Taiwanese entertainment world because I really could not find any actors who were really outstanding. And the material they had to work with usually didn't help. Then I saw Ariel who really just shined and touched me against all odds (I first saw her in ISWAK). I noticed all the little mannerisms she developed for the character which she actually continued in TKA. And she really exceeded at both the comedy and drama. I've constantly been impressed with her performance and her dedication to improve (She went to school in NYC to do just that).
Anyway, that's just my feelings on the matter! I was also impressed with QE while watching FTLY.



I'm not sure what the judges did or did not consider so I cannot say. I simply feel confident enough in Ariel's performance to say she does deserve the award. That's not so say she's the best actress ever or that everyone else sucked. It's a little irritating to see people try to make excuses for the outcome...yes, as an Ariel fan



Ah, I completely misunderstood what you meant by "career outlook". I thought you were referring to their personal philosophies on acting, etc.
I don't know who would get more job offers so I won't assume. But yes, QE probably wasn't getting many before all this so she will definitely be getting endless phonecalls in the near future!



I placed that sentence many spaces below the last paragraph, as it wasn't meant to be one directed just at you but at everyone who I have seen bashing Ariel (By calling her ugly, stupid, etc. I consider this bashing).

I did think that was pretty uncalled for but that's my opinion.

Anyway, if QE had won I'm sure she would be receiving some of this treatment by some people and QE fans would find this irritating.
I can say that I would have congratulated her because she did do a good job and in no way would it have meant that Ariel didn't deserve to win either.

Personally, I like both women for their personalities. Qiao En is more well-rounded, having more hosting under her belt than Ariel (and more singing to an extent). Acting-wise, I think Ariel is a more versatile actress and is able to get into her roles more deeply. Then again, I think Qiao En hasn’t taken on as many roles as Ariel, and being under Jungiery, I don’t think she’s had the opportunity to get as many varied roles; she's had to fight to be recognized. Where Qiao En has been held back by her company, Ariel (I think) has been held back because she's not the typical leggy beauty; she's had to work twice as hard to get where she is today. I admire both women greatly and think they’re good role models. I do think they both need to take on more challenging roles, because the TW idol drama world is rather small and difficult to develop one’s acting abilities in.

What’s your take?

Hi swim

Like many of others, I think both QE and Ariel are good actresses who have such a great talents. It's hard to decide who's best since it's matter of individuals perception and opinion. I have watched Ariel's TL18, Love Contact, Tokyo Juliet, LOCH, Tian Wai Fei Xian (my most favorite series of Ariel's), ISWAK and TKA (although.. personally, I'm not a fan of the last two dramas). I have to agree with others that Ariel is very versatile. And one more plus point, I adore her personality as a great daughter to her mom and a great friend to Hsu Wei Lun whom I loved so much.

Now, for QE. As you all might noticed, I'm a big QE fan and have watched all of her dramas from her early career (MVP Valentine up to FLTY). She improved a lot in terms of acting.. and as Ariel, she is also can portrayed different kinds of roles really well. From cute girl in MVP Valentine, a little antagonist character in 100% senorita, a materialistic yet kind heart girl in PTF, a plain girl in Rock Paper Scissors, a tomboyish girl in YY3+1 and a naive sticky note girl in FTLY.

There are dramas from these two people which I like a lot and some I didn't enjoy that much. As someone who have watched "almost" all of their series, I could say.. both are good and both has their own way on portraying their roles.

The bottom line is, I hope people dont starting to bash either Ariel or QE after just watched one or two of their dramas.

It would be nice if someday, we could see Ariel and QE on screen together

I like both girls too. I know they both worked hard. Ariel did had to work twice as hard because she isn't what most people consider "pretty." She had to proved herself through her acting. She is one of the few artists that are willing to do anything just to make sure she fit her characters. That's what I love most about her. Qiau En starts off her acting being side characters. I watched her being side charaters into the main characters. She also had to worked twice as hard just to get the main role. Both girls are good role models and I admire them both. I think people who had been with both girls from the start will understand that they are both hard workers and great actresses. The GBA was their first time meeting each other. I hope that meeting will not be the last between them. I would love to see them work together some day!

I support them acting together one day. Not that I think it'll ever happen.

TW's industry seems to place more focus on the males than the females. Thinking that the males are the one slightly more important for ratings.
They'll spend money on getting 2 first line male actors (or even 3 if you consider Hot Shot) for a drama, but it's hard to imagine them spending the money to get the 2 best idol drama actress to work together.

Ariel and QE really can't be compared in acting I think haha
Both of them are really very good already, but what they both need (especially for QE) is more roles that are of different genres

And...
working with new partners.
Arjoe has been paired 3 times and MingEn is hitting 3 soon with their new collaboration. It's really not that beneficial to keep working with the same idol. I hope both of them can learn and have chemistry with more actors.

Yes, I watched those (besides, YY) and think Qiao En is a great actress as well.
I am also a VERY huge Ariel fan....

I have seen her as a crazy cheer leader and a bit rude girl in 7th Grade student, a tom boy who loves kendo (like me) and is afraid of love in Love Contract, playful girl in My Secret Garden I and II, then a fashion loving and jealously and clingy girl in Tokyo Juliet, stupid but lovable in ISWAk, witty and playful and devoted to love in Tian Wai Fei Xian, crazy and loving wife in TKA and a smart, cunning, a little evil at times, straight forward and a kung fu master in LOCH.

Those series, although I never managed to fully finish MSG, have fully convinced me that Ariel is indeed a fantastic actress, versatile and hard working. I know not every single person out there would have watched as many series as me and stuff, and have the appreciation of Ariel's acting...

But I think that both of them are fantastic and even though Qiao En didn't get her award, I am sure she will in the years to come.

There is no reason to bash anyone just because they got it, yes Qiao En has many qualities which Ariel doesn't have, and vice versa. Both are fantastic, and both are the 'queen' of idol dramas, highly sought after.

Best of wish to Qiao En and Ariel in the future, hope SDR is nicer to QE as well!! Stop his stupid remarks, he should mind his tongue. And he better give QE some more dramas and stuff.

vicki, yeah, I totally agree. I can't imagine ever seeing Qiao En and Ariel together in an idol drama, but it could be possible in a non-idol drama... kind of like the Chinese drama that Qiao En's going to be in next (with two sisters who are both main characters).

And they definitely should work with several new partners, too. It's critical for acting growth and development. There's only so much they can learn from the same partner over and over again.

Can't say anything more on them, ariel and qiao en are two of the most versatile actresses that i've seen in taiwan industry. Like swim i admire this two women so much and they are both good role models to their fans and to other people. It's really hard to decide between them, they have such good talents in their craft. I don't want to compare them coz they are both different persons or vice versa.

Honestly I'm not a fan of either of them. But i have watched both of their series. I dont see why Ariel can win. Tho' i do not like QE, I think she's much better than Ariel and i just cant stand whats with the publicity of Ariel winning this award. i think her winning this GBA is totally overrated. What about the best drama award? The best script award? The best actor award? Why isnt there any focus on these awards but only on best actress? It's so unfair. I believe the same credits should be given to other awards as well.

I think that Ariel should know that the only reason why she won this award is because she's lucky that the judging system is not good that it only picked the first not-so-good eps of FTLY. If they picked other eps, ariel wont stand a chance.

I'm not gonna say sorry if i have offended anyone because excuse me, u started this thread in the critics corner, it is meant for some CRITICISMS. If it aint meant for any, then dont post the thread here, instead start it somewhere else.

I think many have witnessed Ariel's ability as an actress of seven years. What she has accomplished till now isn't sheer luck, but is built from her effort in majority. Sure, the judging system isn't exactly relevant by not evaluating the whole of Fated To Love You, but it doesn't mean Ariel's hard work is to be disregarded.

I love both actresses a lot; they are probably the two Taiwanese actresses who pass with flying colours to me. Initially I wasn't so fond of Qiao En because of the rumours (or were they?) that Qiao En was one of the most difficult artists to deal with in Jungiery. I have come to admire her talents now as I watch more of her. I agree that Qiao En doesn't receive a wide range of roles in her dramas, so if she had so, I believe she could shine ever more.

Ariel, on the other hand, has captured my interest ever since I first saw her in ISWAK. She also has had stellar performances in all (yeah, ALL) of her dramas; her portrayals of the roles were close to perfect, so I don't question her talent at all. She is unanimously complimented as an extreme hard worker, so I think she totally deserves the award she received recently.

^A case of a person misled by QE;s nice manager Sun De Rong.

She's actually not hard to deal with.
Just that she goes against her manager, the dear Sun De Rong.

And he loves releasing on false stuff on QE.
Like her bad temper can only be tackled by MD (When she makes great friends with all the cast she has worked with)
And then news that she's often late (When she's very particular about punctuality and actually "argued" with one of her director in a drama when he was often late)

Her morning wake-up temper gets blown out of proportion by SDR's news too.

Plus lots of other stuff

they are both great actress...but i like Ariel better
becasue i don't know much about Q.E. yet..had to google her to find out who is is before writing in here then found out she was the girl in FTLY..and i guess she is a great actress because rating was sure high...but look wise i think Ariel is prettier..*shrug*

Don't get why have to compare between them (same as I don't get why people questioning and bashing when Ariel won the award coz she totally deserves it)...I see both of them as very talented actress that we rarely get in Taiwanese entertainment industry

haha. i think both are equally good in terms of acting. I was really impressed with Ariel's acting in ISWAK. Hardly anyone can pull off such good acting as a dumb girl so convincingly as ariel. Sometimes, i really feel like slapping XiangQin on her face which means ariel is doing her job well. I was really impressed with Qiaoen's tears in WZBQW although i became her fan in MVP valentine. Her acting is really good and consistent.
Although i was upset that Joe didnt get the award, i am equally happy that ariel get it. At least her acting is good, there is nothing for me to bash.
Vicki, Mingen is collaborating the third time? serious? lol.

Qiao En and Ariel can convey their crying such that as viewers, we can feel their character's emotions as well.
I honestly have nothing bad to say about either of them. They both seem professional and mature on set , but can have fun at the same time.

As for a collaboration .. I doubt that will ever happen, but it would be pretty awesome to have arguably two of the best actresses in Taiwan in the same drama ..

i came into this critic hang out thread thinking there might be a thread on these two..lol...
i like both actresses, they're very capable and talented. Ariel is a versitle actress, QE hasn't been given as many chances as Ariel but i hope she does in the future coz she realli deserves a chance to shine. Ariel occurred to me as a good actress when i saw ISWAK thought she was very cute, QE totally blew me away with her performances in PTF and now FTLY, i think QE has a more mature feel to her acting while Ariel always has a touch of cuteness to her. QE i find looks quite elegant and pretty, Ariel is more the cute and also quite beautiful.
I, too would love to see a collab between these two but chances are too slim...

Never thought QE was a great actress until FTLY. That show totally changed my perspective of her; she had me laughing and crying. Although Prince turn to frog was a huge hit, I dislike it because I thought her acting was too bleh and MD was even worse; but FTLY showed a huge improvement. Overall, she's a very good actress.

Ariel on the otherhand had always proven what an INCREDIABLE actress she is. I watched Love Contract and it bored me to death, but because her acting was so amazing, I stuck around. Even though she does idol drama; Ariel have proven herself to be a serious actress. I would've hated Ariel character in ISWAK, but for some reason, Ariel made the character rather lovable. You end up rooting for her instead of hating her.

Storyline makes a huge difference, yes, but most of the dramas these ladies participated in were all attractive. ISWAK was a huge hit as well, but highest ratings?



I can't really comment about her acting in ISWAK (i only watched about 2 episodes before I got annoyed with her character, even her mannerisms didn't help). But I guess you have your own reasons for liking her, and I agree, we shall just agree to disagree.




Huh. That seems a little bit ridiculous. I don't think I would've minded if someone bashed CQE about her lack of work ethic (she's really lazy from what I have gathered), and there could be a million of ways for people to bash her, but in the end, these don't matter. If these are credible flaws in her personality/character, I wouldn't even bat an eye. None of this has anything to do with her acting.

Fact of the matter is, I just don't think Ariel was completely winning fairly. And if there are legit reasons as to why I feel this way, and they are justifiable, I believe I have a right to voice them. Not excuses as you say.



It's ok, misunderstanding noted and acknowledged.



Hahaha, well, you have your opinions and I have mine. I didn't think the judging was completely fair, and I have to console myself. Why are you so irritated about these flaws in Ariel? Everything I said is true (though you may not agree with me). Not like I said her acting was bad, which was what this competition's all about.



If they said anything about her if she had won, I would've laughed it off (lol). I'm a little bit more gracious when it comes to things like this, unless it was someone who was bashing her for bad acting skills (then the battle's on!).

wow....rather heated here but im here and will roots for ariel all the way........she is one of the first i artist i like from taiwan and remains so.......

i find her acting very convincing and it was enough to pull into the roles to shed the tears together with her......

nothing against QE cause erm.....she is good but im biased

With the exception of her latest project, I too have seen all of Ariel's dramas, and I feel that what is key here is that she has had better performances for which she could have been at least nominated for the GBA. This year though, I really believe that for this GBA had Qiao En's name on it. Throughout her career, Qiao En perhaps has not performed at the same level, but her level of improvement has been astronomical [especially comparing her performance in MVP Valentine to WQBQW and then to FTLY].

Regarding range, I'd have to disagree. I believe that although Qiao En always plays a "good" character, they are all on different parts of the spectrum of "goodness" and have different motivations and emotional capacities. Actually, that is one of the things I am most impressed with Qiao En about. She is able to make minute adjustments, or if need be large adjustments, that can morph the same emotion to varying degrees. This is reflected particularly strongly in FTLY in the different ways she cries and different facial expressions during silences, which she uses very powerfully. In comparison to Ariel, I believe that Qiao En actually has had a wider range, albeit not as obvious, which may seem like an oxymoron, but is not.

On Ariel's performances, I must say that I enjoyed almost all of them, particularly Love Contract and ISWAK. However, I felt that in Seventh Grade, her portrayal left something to be desired and I was disappointed with TKA. With TKA, it was not really her performance itself, but the lack of noticeable breakthroughs. People might contest this, but to me, it was a reasonable continuation of her character, but not in a fresh way.

Admittedly, I am a bigger fan of Qiao En [despite being exposed to her works later], and so all of the stated comments are my personal viewpoint. Seeing as how I do find some of Ariel's dramas well done and engaging, I do not mean any disrespect towards her, and I do congratulate her on receiving this award [no matter how much I believe Qiao En should have received it.]

hehe i think if they both were to collaborate into one drama there is no man good enough for both of them together..hahaha

Just to answer you on this question. I have a few facts from watching Taiwanese variety shows and from Taiwanese forum that may help you understand the circumstances better.

As we all know, there were a lot of submissions and only a few were selected as final nominations. The deadline for submission for 2008 GBA was sometimes in July. This should be correct as Sanlih first reported that they were submitting FTLY, Ethan and QE for GBA in June. As a result, the programs/episodes that could be submitted for evaluation have a cut-off date somewhere in June, reported to be 31st June or something. As a result, only upto epi 9 of FTLY could be submitted for evaluation. Which means, the accident and miscarriage scene, the transformation of Xinyi to Elaine parts were not eligible for this year GBA evaluation.

One senior reporter, who is himself also a member of the panel of judges for GBA (for mini-series), explained in a variety show that the judges didn't have time to watch every episodes of all the dramas or programmes. So the GBA committee used a computer to draw lots and see which episodes would be used for evaluation. For example, if the computer drew episode 3, 5, then episode 3 and 5 of FTLY and TKA would be used to evaluate QE and Ariel.

The GBA has a reputation of giving awards based on their perception rather than the actual performance. Since the judges could not watch every episodes of the drama, unlike TV viewers, the judges and the TV viewers in general could have a vast different view of who is the better performer. In most public polls prior to GBA, the public overwhelming voted for QE to win the award. QE, having less dramas under her belt, would have worked against her because the judges would perceive that Ariel is more senior and has been in more productions than QE.

The same reporter, explained that because GBA decides on awards based on a small number of judges, hence the results would be very different depending on who were the judges chosen. The total number of judges for the Best Drama, Best Male, Best Female were the same 6 persons, with 1 of them being the chairperson. Because the same 6 persons also decided on the awards for Best drama, the taiwanese media speculated that it could be due to this that they might have a preference to give the award to another TV station. Apparently, Ariel won QE by a single vote, presumably 3-2. Part of the outcry also came from the bad explanations offered by the panel of judges. The judges revealed that during the decision process, QE initially got high votes, but in the final votes, some votes were changed to Ariel because the judges felt that FLTY has a much better cast and production team and as a result, QE performed well. This was viewed by many as plain stupidity..... Being in a better cast doesn't make an actress looks good, it is being in a bad cast that an average actor/actress would good look, because all others acted badly. Industry insiders actually feel that it was harder to shine when you were surrounded by super actors/actresses who could easily outshine and overshadow a lesser actress.


I could not compare Ariel performance vs QE. Risking making myself looking like a jerk, I have to honestly admit I have tried many times watching several Taiwanese idol dramas but the script and acting were so bad that I could not finish an entire episode. If I have so much time at hand, I would be better served watching Korean dramas or Western movies rather than to torture myself with amateurish production. The only Taiwanese dramas that I could watch from epi 1 to the end were some of QE's drama. (There were also some QE dramas which I could not bother to watch from beginning to end).

I think there was a huge outcry not because QE didn't win. But because Ariel won. If the other older nominee won no one would have utter a word of discontent. The media, industry insiders felt funny that Ariel won because TKA was a sequel, GBA didn't even think Ariel was worthy of being nominated in part 1. Ariel has a lot of fans in Taiwan and in Asia no doubt, but her idol dramas have rarely shown any breakthrough TV ratings indicating that non idol drama viewers are drawn to her acting. Many people felt that Ariel is a good actress no doubt, but her acting in her previous dramas were much better than her performance in TKA.

Furthermore, QE's character in FTLY was harder to portray and went through diverse emotions and huge character development. The media and industry insiders felt that QE had a breakthrough in her acting career. But all these, I think would have been lost with the panel of judges because of the judging restrictions and crteria.

Like they have always said, being nominated is already a recognition. Winning the award would need a bit of luck. This applies to all GBA categories.

To be honest, after I learnt how the GBA dished out the award, I no longer felt bad about the whole situation. Supposedly for the Oscars, actors and production crews cast their votes. If GBA is conducted in the same manner and QE lost, I would be more upset. Just because the majority of the 6 judges felt that Ariel is the winner didn't change the fact that most viewers felt that QE is their best actress. Appreciation for acting is anyway highly subjective. GBA award is more useful as a publicity tool rather than translating into real benefits. QE is getting lots of adverts/endorsements/drama opportunities, fashion shows after FTLY and regularly topped most of the Taiwanese polls now. I don't think she has lost out much by not winning GBA. People who like her performance will still like her even if she didn't win the GBA. Last week, Sohu's weekly magazine, which only featured mega stars on their cover, has QE as their latest cover person and the title was "Queen of Taiwan Idol Drama". And FLTY is not even aired in China yet. I have no doubt that QE's popularity would increase several times once FTLY is aired in China.



Check out past celebrities that graced the cover : http://yule.sohu.com/s2007/xfrw/

Sohu thought that QE are now in the same league as their past cover celebrities? To be honest, I am shock.



Here is the youtube of one of the variety show I am talking about.




Concerning QE's range, I thought it would be a joke to see anyone saying the range of her roles is limited. A person who made this comment must have not watched FTLY? QE was the post-it girl, got pregnant, forced to marry with a stranger, the motherly love she portrayed for her unborn child was one of the highlights of FTLY (episode 11 and 12), she went through miscarriage, she became a confident and sophisticated career woman subsequently. I thought just this character alone would have a wider range than many idol actresses in their entire career. The key point is that QE's acting was so real that it has led to FTLY having average rating of 9 to 10 from epi 13 onward up to 24 which is like 4 times of most idol dramas. No doubt, the overall good performance of the whole FTLY helped to contribute to FTLY's super high rating. But you have to bear in mind the story of FTLY is the story of Chen Xinyi. If the TV viewers don't feel for Chen Xinyi, FTLY would have been a flop.

i am an ariel fan so i guess im kinda biased haha.
but i dony like joe so much cuz it seems she is too busy trying to be cute
that she forgets her real character.
like in frog prince the first half of the movie she was actaing all hyper and trying to be cute that he doesnt deliver her lines straight.
shes more worried about her face that she forgets the rest of her.

I love them both.

Neither of them is outstandingly pretty but both can act. I guess I would have to pick Ariel Lin for the wide varity of roles.

Wow, you really have to get your own facts straight.
Just those few lines of your posts already makes me know immediately that you did not bother digging deep enough to know how QE's career has been.

Trying to be cute? If you're talking about her roles OR her real life, I have arguments for both.

Firstly, I absolutely do not understand how her roles are cute. You mentioned Frog Prince. That still remains one of my favorite dramas of all time. Ye TianYu is not a character that would act cute, but rather a character who has many conflicts throughout her life. The character was made to be hyper and rather unintelligent-- and if you're saying she doesn't deliver her lines straight, I truly don't know how to tell you. If QE couldn't do that, she probably would not have even been nominated for the Golden Bell Awards in the first place.

If QE is so busy trying to act cute in real life, why don't you go to her blog and read up some of her true feelings and actually try to truly understand her, rather than be so shallow and look at the surface? Where's your proof that she's so worried about her "face"? To me, that is a very unreasonable, unjustified, and shallow argument to even bother mentioning. Her face? QE is one of those few artists that don't care so much about cosmetics.

Ariel and QE are both so professional and similar in their real ways. We do not know what they really are, but from what an audience can see, QE is certainly very far from your biased point of view.

^ I agree, and plus, you can't really judge a person by just one drama? I don't really like it when people judge from ppls characters in a series.
It's a character of the show, that's the way they're SUPPOSEd to act, even if they don't want to, they still have to.
Same concept with evil roles, it's not like the actor/actresses WANT to act that way right?
So yeah, plus in QE's other roles, I don't think she acts cute/hyper/ w.e. Especially in FTLY?

Anyways, on topic, I'd choose QE. I don't hate Ariel, and I'm okay with her. I still watch her shows. But I just got kinda annoyed with her character in ISWAK/TKA sometimes. But I think her acting is pretty good. Both have their positives. I just prefer QE if I were to choose.

I'm not going to go as far as to saying I hate them both, but neither of them are really great actresses. The roles they have taken are not really "serious roles", and they have been continuing to star in dramas that are marketed towards teenagers. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but they are just not going to be considered serious actors until they start taking on more layered roles.

That being said, I prefer Qiao En to Ariel.

QiaoEn and Ariel are both very competent actresses, despite acting mostly in idol dramas, which doesn't really let them make full use of their abilities. As to why Ariel won and QE did not, it has a lot to do with luck, that's the same in any awards ceremony. As SYJfan explained, the judging group was relatively small and everyone has their own impression of the two actresses. It's a shame that QE did not win, but Ariel was not undeserving of the award either.

I personally love QE as a person, because even as I'm watching her in her roles, I can imagine her as QE herself, the tough, forthright person that she is. Her acting has improved leaps and bounds since I've first watched her in MVP Valentine (in which I immediately loved her). She's taken on a whole range of different characters since, but I feel she fleshed out her character in FTLY so well, it's been her best performance so far. I don't have much to criticise for QE because I feel that she's a very adventurous actress and she'll take on roles that challenge her if she could (if her management lets her, that is) and hopefully she'll get more shots at that award in the future.

I really loved Ariel in both ISWAK and TKA, and anyone who says that Ariel's role in TKA was not as challenging as QE's in FTLY has not watched both dramas before. If QE's character has gone through pregnancy and miscarriage and loads of other mishaps, then Ariel's character in TKA has also gone through a lot of turmoil. First she doubts her husband's love for her, has a pregnancy scare herself, realises her true ambition, and faces a possible disease leading to blindness. And she pulled off a great performance. But Ariel falls into this girl-next-door stereotype, and it's hard to imagine her playing a more feministic, selfish character, or even a hardcore villain.


I don't think crying is the best judge of an actress's acting skills. Because 90% of their scenes would involve them not crying, so it only makes sense that they perform equally well (or better) in non-crying scenes. Taiwanese dramas tend to include a lot (too many, imo) of crying scenes in the series, but I've always felt that crying is just one very straightforward way of expressing sadness. There are lots of other ways to express emotions, and I think that Ariel and QE are both very good in showing subtle emotions.

I want to see them acting in the same series/movie too, but if that ever happens the situation will be played up by the media and fans and it'll be more of a who-gets-more-screentime fight than who-acts-better. What I really want to see is QE and Ariel taking on the big-screen, because they can make it much more exciting in the Taiwanese movie circuit.

i support them both!
they are both wonderful actresses!

of course I like Qiao En more
Qiao En so talented, and cute
I love to enjoy all of her series, all of them...GREAT because of her natural acting skill

I like the two of them. They are great actresses. It will be nice to see them in the same drama, just to compare their performance. The only thing that Ariel does greater than Qiao En, she can kiss passionately on screen.

I really dont like qioa en's acting but i think she is pretty. first movie i saw her in, i found her kind of annoying. (opinion) I really love ariels acting on the other hand. She can play many different roles perfectly and she's very adoring.