Traditionally incest has been defined as marriage between people with the same surname.
So...I guess GuiGui will not be a preferable wife...it's INCEST...so what if we live in the 20th century & that they might not be blood-related? Confucius had a point!
Even though Hebe is older than Aaron, there's no moral fault committed, right? Besides, Aaron acts more matured compared to Hebe...making it seem that Aaron is older than her....
Taiwangirl23
Nov 17 2008 6 55 PM
YES! Finally a place where I can litterally say I HATE GUI GUI!!!!!!!!! Oh my gosh waiting for this for so long. GuiLun are so NOT Compatible. I HATE THAT COUPLE! Especially Gui she acts like a cute little angel! I hate that about her and her squeeky voice is so ANNOYING! OMG OMG I hate them!
frendz2frendz
Nov 18 2008 12 25 AM
Anyone that brings up the age as an issue for BEBU, you guys, please, go read some history books. Women have been marrying men younger than hundreds, thousands of years before the 21st century, if it wasn't a prob for the older generation or people, why is it now? Anyway, it is TWO years, there are couples out there that the women are 24 years or something older than the men, SO WHAT? they are living happily.
Taiwangirl23
Nov 18 2008 1 49 AM
Hahaha i know i don't believe in age difference anymore, i mean seriously Arron DID say that he would date someone that is older then him by even six years So what are we worried for about age difference lolz
`PearLYN
Nov 18 2008 1 58 AM
FINALLY A PLACE TO VENT ANGER! Actually, i agree with 501stExile. According to the chinese surname thingy, people with the same surname can never end up together, Well, thats what my parents said. O.o I'm a chinese so i can confirm this. Plus please! Its the 21st century we are in. Age doesn't matter in love anymore. Take an example, my grandmother and my grandfather's age difference is 20, thats a big gap i know, but so what? They are still living happily together in china. So a few years age diff isn't something big.
Taiwangirl23
Nov 18 2008 2 09 AM
HAHAHA I know girl, there's nothing bad with like 2 years of age differents, it's actually normal and for people who don't accept that they must be really werid. Two years is nothing, so if you married someone who is two years younger then you, you would freak out! Love is love If they love each other it doesn't matter the age difference But SURNAME!!! Hahaha they so can't break the law LOLZ
!evee
Nov 18 2008 12 03 PM
I feel so bad ~ I really don't have nething against Gui Gui She used to be my favourite Mei Mei and not because of GL that I changed my opinion. I guess the fact that BeBu beats GuiLun is because of how BeBu started. BeBu have been there since the beginning, fan's thought they had a chance despite age. Through their position in the groups, their talents and their mini but ever so adorable interactions. GuiLun started through a drama like most couples do and although their interactions are over the top lovey dovey and all I stand by BeBu due to the reasons I've stated.. Not to mention.. they're still my favourite in the group! ^^
`drmyslamyi`
Nov 18 2008 1 49 PM
will it be considered off-topic if i didn't scold guigui?? lols. well....i guess many of us bebu fans have strong opinions against her... hmm... i'd have to say that i definitely do not hate her. but i don't like guilun pairing either.
so people may say... "well there's a huge age gap between hebe and arron" or "they're not bad.....but i don't think they're a perfect match for each other."
but hey! everybody has their freedom of speech right?? no point shooting things all around... guilun to me is more sibling-ish. i'll never take them as a couple. mark my words, NEVER. some people say they're cute when they bicker. okayy...so yea, people do bicker. but siblings bicker as well, right?? i mean...it doesn't mean that they bicker=there's an ambiguous relationship between them. =v=
as for mebe... never did take them serious either. though i watched every single ep of BF... it's just not there. i guess it's all the mike-rainie thing though. heh.
yeaps. so my point is, no matter what, bebu's always the first. XD and note that we've got our own freedom of expressing our thoughts. WAKAKKA.
babeyelmo
Nov 18 2008 2 11 PM
i am not against any pairing of aaron and who ever! but am against some people around here...do yal really hate the others girls that much?...haha
BUT what i wanna as kis what do you guys see in Hebe and Aaron? this is not a threatening question i just really want to know because i;ve never seen them do anything together that made me go OMG they are so cute together or made me think they should be a pair..soo do tell me so i can get your side of the story
dreamgal♥
Nov 18 2008 2 26 PM
i don't actually prefer bebu over guilun. i actually prefer guilun over bebu..
yes i admit i was once a bebu fan..maybe still am, but not as hyped up as before. i'm starting to lose interest in bebu cause there aren't much interactions/chemistry between them as before. even when they interact a bit in some recent videos..i don't see that much chemistry between them anymore. it's just lacking something, which i don't know what. that's one of the reasons i'm losing interest in bebu. another reason..well that's another story. i don't exactly want to bash anyone here.
some people might call me disloyal or whatsoever in the sense that i went over to guilun and didn't stick to bebu. but seriously..as i've explained above, i'm really losing interest in bebu. i see more chemistry between guilun than bebu. and now that i think about all the previous bebu interactions..the ones that i only actually go crazy over is when they have close interactions on stage. as for guilun..i actually go crazy at onscreen AND offscreen interactions.
but then again, it's not only because of guilun that i'm losing interest in bebu though. the xuanlun [selina and arron] interactions are making me fall in love with them though i know they just see each other as a small brother/big sis. i actually go hyped up whenever i see xuanlun interacting - they're so cute and sweet!! unlike bebu whom i don't actually see them interacting THAT much.
so seriously speaking..it's really because i don't see much chemistry between bebu, which is why i'm losing interest in them and moving over to guilun/xuanlun. no offence intended..just reasoning why i prefer other pairings other than bebu.
★JPOO'
Nov 18 2008 10 12 PM
QUOTE (501stExile @ Nov 17 2008 1 41 PM)
Okay.let me start off with the fact that Aaron & GuiGui cannot actually end up together forever because...
So...I guess GuiGui will not be a preferable wife...it's INCEST...so what if we live in the 20th century & that they might not be blood-related? Confucius had a point!
QUOTE (`PearLYN @ Nov 18 2008 12 58 AM)
FINALLY A PLACE TO VENT ANGER! Actually, i agree with 501stExile. According to the chinese surname thingy, people with the same surname can never end up together, Well, thats what my parents said. O.o I'm a chinese so i can confirm this. Plus please! Its the 21st century we are in. Age doesn't matter in love anymore. Take an example, my grandmother and my grandfather's age difference is 20, thats a big gap i know, but so what? They are still living happily together in china. So a few years age diff isn't something big.
ACTUALLY, if u've never noticed the two wu's you typed are different. u better change that before someone says that u'r wrong. -becuase i was going to haahaaa & as u said, if age didn't matter for BeBu then wth would this incest thing again AS U SAID.. we're inthe 20th century do anything?
QUOTE (Taiwangirl23 @ Nov 17 2008 5 55 PM)
YES! Finally a place where I can litterally say I HATE GUI GUI!!!!!!!!! Oh my gosh waiting for this for so long. GuiLun are so NOT Compatible. I HATE THAT COUPLE! Especially Gui she acts like a cute little angel! I hate that about her and her squeeky voice is so ANNOYING! OMG OMG I hate them!
Erm, from what i see, ur js hating my dear gui gui because of this pairing. you're hating her for getting paired up with you'r dear Lun but to my point of view.. u haven't even given her a chance. she's only 19 offc she's like a cute angel. & if u want to bash gui gui then please go to th anti gui gui thread because this is a thread FORPAIRINGS.
Personally i love this couple, they're soo damn cute. they have like 234980753049857340987 interactions & arron seems sooo much more livlier around her. she makes everyone happy. but to me i dnt see BEBU at all? when have they interacted, seriously? i watched the clip where hebe was dancing with all fahrenheit members in that song "i only have feelings for u" she obv danced like that with arron because SHE HAD TO. & yeh please inform me about their interactions & why u's like them so much because i haven't seen them interacting EVER. & i dnt get how u's can see GUILUN together, becuase they're damn cute. have a gizziliion interactions a day. keeps us entertained u'know? TBH i think u guys dont like GuiLun because guilun have soo much interaction compared to BEBU... because u's aren't even saying why u's dont like them together.
you's are telling us, don't say that about BEBU & their age diff, but then what about you's saying about GuiLun & their name "wu" is there much difference? & u's saying that their surname is th same, doens't tell me that you's dont think they're cute together. because from what i see, u's havent' written anything except the Wu surname thngy.
xdefiine
Nov 18 2008 10 16 PM
I tell you ppl , If any guilun fans were to come here and say about the age difference between bebu, Imm taking the chopper and chop them. RAWR !! AGE ISN'T A PROBLEMMM !! LIKE.. YEAH !! ISN'T A PROBLEMMM !! my friend's parents age difference is like 10 years apart. && according to my friend, they only quarrel for moneyy !! like yeah, && when bebu do get together, money isn't a problem to them cause they are rich. -___-''
I swearrr, i really feel like killing guigui that .. daughter of B****RD ! -____-'' her voice is soooo ew ew ew!! like f**K. -__-'' && her acting skills are worse than hebe !! OHMYYYGOODDD LIKEEE hebeee is sooo muchh suited for arron than guigui. LIKE LOOK, HEBE CAN PLAY THE PIANO && FLUTE && drums!! && arron can play the PIANO && FLUTE && guitar !! LIKEEEE , did you guys watch x-family? where like han && jiro was playing the drums && guitar together. BEBUUU CANN DO THAT TOO! AND THEY CAN PLAY THE PIANO && FLUTEE TOGETHERR !! LIKE , ISN'T IT SWEET!!
&& dreamgal93 , if you trying to like make us like guilun or whatever so ever. you can just like... erm... shoo. i dont want to use bad words on you or whatever. maybe it is just me, cause i really really hate disloyal ppl . && yeah, sorry to say. you making me hate you for landing here. everyone has their hates && likes. && if you are trying to stop us from venting on why bebu or guilun , you shouldn't be here. Just let us vent . cause if one day when bebu has collab together, i bet those guilun fans with go like all, " (*&^%$#@!" yeah. [: No offence !
YES, NOW BACK TO VENTINGGG !! LIKEEEE AHHH, IMM GOING TO BAWL MY EYES OUT IF HIM DONT DO ANYTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !!! T_T CAN SOMEMORE GO REQUEST FOR A BEBU THING IN THE HIM FORUM? LIKE PLEASEEE?!!!!! T___T or leave the bebu forum url on there && we should make our forum full of bebu interations && they will start to think that bebuuu rulesss guilunn && will let bebu do a collabbb ~ THEN WE, THE BEBU FANS SHALL GO ALL YAYIEEE && STUFFS! :DDD
&& that mebe, ew ew. sorry but i really hate mike. idk why , maybe cause of his hair. && i hate rainie as well. so they can just be togetherrr for all i care && not bother about hebe or arron or jiro. i dont feel that kind of feeel about mebe. you guys get my point? those kind of love-love feel . i did watch bull fighting until like ep 12? cause i really didn't had any feeling with the mebe. yeahhhh. [= && beside, there is more mike+rainie fans than mebe. yeah, so i really dony care.
BUT I REALLY REALLY CARE ABOUT THE STUPID GUILUNNNN LIKEEE )(*&^%$#@ !! ughh, i need toooo ventttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt !! yes , that piece of horrible pairing !! bebu is such a masterpieceeeee ~ okay. it is very late now, i should vent tmrw. [:
byeeeeeeeeee~
dreamgal♥
Nov 19 2008 1 34 AM
xdefiine you know..maybe you should read the FAQ before coming in here to post. oh wait nvm i'll quote it here for you to read.. and perhaps for others as well
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Critics Hang-out This forum is where you can provide your constructive criticism about movies, stars or series. Anti-fans can hang here and let out their frustrations about a celebrity
- This is a place where you b!tch about celebrities, movies, series, etc. - Fans can defend their idols with good reasoning. - No swearing and personal attacks at the other haters. - Foul language will not be tolerated.
firstly no foul language is tolerated here. unfortunately your post does contain foul language. i don't see why i can still phrase my post in a nice way when i know i'll be hated by the bebu fans and you just have to come in and started posting with vulgarities inside. i'm not preventing you or other bebu fans from venting..but vulgarities? o.O
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&& dreamgal93 , if you trying to like make us like guilun or whatever so ever. you can just like... erm... shoo. i dont want to use bad words on you or whatever. maybe it is just me, cause i really really hate disloyal ppl . && yeah, sorry to say. you making me hate you for landing here. everyone has their hates && likes. && if you are trying to stop us from venting on why bebu or guilun , you shouldn't be here. Just let us vent . cause if one day when bebu has collab together, i bet those guilun fans with go like all, " (*&^%$#@!" yeah. [: No offence !
secondly, when in my post was i trying to make you all like guilun? and why are you shoo-ing me away? as stated in the FAQ, fans can come in here to defend their idols. and for this, i'm defending guilun and i am stating why i do not prefer bebu over guilun. i never stated that i want you to stop venting here so i have no idea where you got that idea from. i'm sorry if you really really hate disloyal people, but as i've stated, i can't help it.
i know i was risking the fact that bebu fans will utterly hate me now, but i just had to say it out loud. and i don't actually mind you hating me cause i already have a bad impression of you. gosh if you guys can vent about guilun, why can't i just state my reasons on why i don't prefer bebu over guilun?
thirdly, i am very sorry to tell you that guilun fans won't go like all " (*&^%$#@!" if bebu collaborates cause we are civilised people. we DO accept other arron and guigui pairings and we don't go around bashing them like as if it's the end of the world. so if you're actually looking forward to guilun fans going all " (*&^%$#@!" when bebu actually collaborates, then i'm sorry, but i don't think you'll see it. we don't over react -whistles-
anw..bebu doesn't even interact nowadays. even if they do, it's just for a short while. it's like the bebu fandom is dying down. you can't blame fans for moving over to other arron and hebe pairings. i know i'm not the only one who has stopped going crazy over bebu.
babeyelmo
Nov 19 2008 1 51 AM
wow i didnt know they had pairing for selina and aaron either whats their story? i dont see any actiong going on between them at all...
and i havn't even seen any guilun fan come and talk smack about age difference... but anywho...dreamgal93 i love you!..hahaha.....just kidding but i agree with everything... bebu fans are expecting too much from guilun fans
angelangie
Nov 19 2008 2 13 AM
lol dreamgal give it a rest let them be.......they just getting the heats out of you....they dont like bebu is because they cant get over the facts that bebu didnt had a collaborations in a series together.....they want to vent out their anger in this way.....probably one of their best way for anger management??? *shrug*
razel_fanatic07
Nov 19 2008 7 32 AM
haha^^
is it true that te part gui gui had in Pi Li MIT was first offered to hebe??? i mean i saw some of bebu fans posted in winglin that it was forst offered to hebe then to selina then to ella, the last one is gui gui...
i do not really hate gui gui... its ust i dont want her to be aaron's partner... i want her with wang zi though...
little_shooting_star
Nov 19 2008 9 02 AM
ha! this thread is mm... very er... unique! not much thraeds have these kind of topics here but i guess u guys have bursted finally... truthfully im neutral to bebu but i have 'issues' with guilun... but i dont mind bebu too much either.. i think they go ok with each other... one thing i admire alot about bebu is bebu started off with really nothing for there to be rumours about yet can still continue up till now... i think u guys are very strong from the very beginning and till the end right? ^^ but truthfully i have issues with the age thing... im not saying they cant be together but would have been a whole lot better if arron was older...doesnt bother me too much though... about guilun cuter with more interaction etc i reckon its only to boost up MITs ratings and stuff.. i mean go look at the guy..hes desparate... hed go naked! and if arron is acting with hebe in zdnygj is forced to then isnt arron forced to act with gui in MIT too? so wats the difference? and about lacking interaction i think if arron was dating sum girl hed keep it in private and keep interaction to minimum to reduce the chances of rumours and suspicion.. i have nothing wrong with him not showing the ambiguous relationship publicly ^^ if were gonna start talking about rules then im gonna join in too like mentioned above..
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Critics Hang-out This forum is where you can provide your constructive criticism about movies, stars or series. Anti-fans can hang here and let out their frustrations about a celebrity
- This is a place where you b!tch about celebrities, movies, series, etc. - Fans can defend their idols with good reasoning. - No swearing and personal attacks at the other haters. - Foul language will not be tolerated.
it states fans can defend their idols with good reasoning right? then wat about this post?
QUOTE (angelangie @ Nov 19 2008 3 13 AM)
lol dreamgal give it a rest let them be.......they just getting the heats out of you....they dont like bebu is because they cant get over the facts that bebu didnt had a collaborations in a series together.....they want to vent out their anger in this way.....probably one of their best way for anger management??? *shrug*
the post isnt even defending guigui or arron its completely off topic... if wat bebu fans r doing is wrong then i guess guilun fan arent any better r they?
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sorry if u felt that i picked on u but it just happened to be your post that i caught..
im starting to find all this utterly entertaining now since wat u have said contradicts completelty different to wat ive seen from guilun fans... the only gg fan ive come across whom actually is reasonable and not so . . . is angelangie... im dead serious no kidding.. but maybe u dont know but i have seen uncivilised gui/guilun fans before... and that time i got a great impression from them...the first one i saw to the second and third's behaviour was discusting... i wont go into further detail cause seriouslty im just discusted...
and r u speaking on behalf of guilun fans that u guys wont " (*&^%$#@!"? or r u speaking for ureself only? cause im sure u cant guarantee that EVERY guilun fans wont " (*&^%$#@!" and if u can id be interested to know where u got that statement from.. cause ive bumped into guilun fans already " (*&^%$#@!" at bebu even wen the havent colaborated yet...
and i just wanted to say...if any moderator here finds my post or this thread utter trash and ridiculous nonsense then they can DELETE/CLOSE this thread/comment right away.... because i dont care...
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wait... i forgot.. as much as i love AF i cant deny the fact that there r certainly bias moderators around who seem to be extreme towards certain threads yet stange thing is other thread (where they actually r present there) seem to be badmouthing certain people yet dont get a warning or caught.... *sigh* so cum and delete and ban all u want!! just proves my statement true! the anonymous moderator go look at urself and judge ureself! i mean sure that thread was doing something wrong but wasnt like the otehrside of the thread were anymore innocent!
angelangie
Nov 19 2008 9 39 AM
lol....littlestar thanks....
it ok i know you not picking on me....when we write here we should all be prepare that there will be conflicts here and there ^^ it happens.....
ooo dont worry i dont speak for all guilun fans that they can be all reasonable and accept the bashing they get and dont bash back but i'm pretty sure that there are more out there that is reasonable.....
if you look at it i think 'love_samantha' is kinda reasonable and she seems to be one of guilun fans.......
i saw alot of uncivilized people as well that refrains from holding their horses and let everything loose.....and of course there are for once that i wants to rant back but i told myself off....that we should all accepts critics and analyze......if they seems to be good then of course we can learn something from it but if it not than too bad......
all we can do is files them off into one of our files.....and make a history out of it......i dont want to take all the credits in saying that i can be reasonable all the times....but i learns....i used to take critics badly and rant right back but then i sit back and begin to think.....
im sure given times guilun fans will turns arounds as gg fans base are mostly consist of youngsters ..... i dont know ....dont kill me im just giving a deductions....
Asiul_
Nov 19 2008 10 18 AM
QUOTE (babeyelmo @ Nov 19 2008 11 51 AM)
wow i didnt know they had pairing for selina and aaron either whats their story? i dont see any actiong going on between them at all...
and i havn't even seen any guilun fan come and talk smack about age difference... but anywho...dreamgal93 i love you!..hahaha.....just kidding but i agree with everything... bebu fans are expecting too much from guilun fans
o_O can i ask why you put selina into this thread? she has nothing to do with bebu or guilun..so yea.... actually, its hebe and arron that is the bebu pairing
501stExile
Nov 19 2008 11 59 AM
okay...confirmation!!!
above, i typed GuiGui's name in simplified chinese...isn't it obvious?!!!
and i'll simply ignore GuiLun defenses....
*clears throat*
BEBU is MIRACLE
they don't need some freaking drama or project to bring them & their fans together
it could have appeared randomly in a Wingln writer's mind but how come the BeBu fanbase is getting better??? People enjoy BeBu fanfics
hah...if Pi Li MIT didn't star Aaron & GuiGui...would there be BIG BOLD ideas of matching GUILUN TOGETHER???
anyways... I still respect the GuiLun fans
it's just that it's not so good for GuiLun to be a couple in our POV especially when it could have been the chance for BeBu to shine
(who knows if Hebe was supposed to take over the role in PLMIT???)
those who gave up on our fanbase have their chances to redeem or return anytime......
Mommy Hebe & Daddy BuBu will alway welcome their babies home
GuiLun fans...consider yourselves blessed!!!!
BeBu Babies...remember that Aaron & Hebe love you.....lol
I believe hard work & mindset will reward us to what we want
angelangie
Nov 19 2008 12 10 PM
^ as much as you like to think that without the collaborations of bebu that how people starts on them.....but did you ever really sit back and think on how they are link up in the first place???
they are puts on certains shows together....if you have forgotten about it....and honestly im sure that how it was built out....because things dont come out of no where....
yes we are blessed that guilun actually had some solid grounds.....and develops there
but bebu didnt lost out much.....they collaborates in concerts together.....MVs....im not sure.....photoshot???? sorry im not bebu fans but i had nothing against them......so dont tell me they dont had some solids grounds.....they do....just maybe not as solid as a series together..........so give me other reason why you guys are solid.....the above dont sounds much as a good reason to me....sorry if that offends you but it just the truth from where i see it.....
babeyelmo
Nov 19 2008 2 09 PM
QUOTE (Cold Autumn Tears @ Nov 19 2008 5 18 AM)
o_O can i ask why you put selina into this thread? she has nothing to do with bebu or guilun..so yea.... actually, its hebe and arron that is the bebu pairing
i only stated her name because someone else stated her name up there and i just wanted to their what their relationship was..nothing big but yes it is off topic a bit
★JPOO'
Nov 19 2008 7 33 PM
QUOTE (xdefiine @ Nov 18 2008 9 16 PM)
I tell you ppl , If any guilun fans were to come here and say about the age difference between bebu, Imm taking the chopper and chop them. RAWR !! AGE ISN'T A PROBLEMMM !! LIKE.. YEAH !! ISN'T A PROBLEMMM !! my friend's parents age difference is like 10 years apart. && according to my friend, they only quarrel for moneyy !! like yeah, && when bebu do get together, money isn't a problem to them cause they are rich. -___-''
I swearrr, i really feel like killing guigui that .. daughter of B****RD ! -____-'' her voice is soooo ew ew ew!! like f**K. -__-'' && her acting skills are worse than hebe !! OHMYYYGOODDD LIKEEE hebeee is sooo muchh suited for arron than guigui. LIKE LOOK, HEBE CAN PLAY THE PIANO && FLUTE && drums!! && arron can play the PIANO && FLUTE && guitar !! LIKEEEE , did you guys watch x-family? where like han && jiro was playing the drums && guitar together. BEBUUU CANN DO THAT TOO! AND THEY CAN PLAY THE PIANO && FLUTEE TOGETHERR !! LIKE , ISN'T IT SWEET!!
&& dreamgal93 , if you trying to like make us like guilun or whatever so ever. you can just like... erm... shoo. i dont want to use bad words on you or whatever. maybe it is just me, cause i really really hate disloyal ppl . && yeah, sorry to say. you making me hate you for landing here. everyone has their hates && likes. && if you are trying to stop us from venting on why bebu or guilun , you shouldn't be here. Just let us vent . cause if one day when bebu has collab together, i bet those guilun fans with go like all, " (*&^%$#@!" yeah. [: No offence !
YES, NOW BACK TO VENTINGGG !! LIKEEEE AHHH, IMM GOING TO BAWL MY EYES OUT IF HIM DONT DO ANYTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !!! T_T CAN SOMEMORE GO REQUEST FOR A BEBU THING IN THE HIM FORUM? LIKE PLEASEEE?!!!!! T___T or leave the bebu forum url on there && we should make our forum full of bebu interations && they will start to think that bebuuu rulesss guilunn && will let bebu do a collabbb ~ THEN WE, THE BEBU FANS SHALL GO ALL YAYIEEE && STUFFS! :DDD
&& that mebe, ew ew. sorry but i really hate mike. idk why , maybe cause of his hair. && i hate rainie as well. so they can just be togetherrr for all i care && not bother about hebe or arron or jiro. i dont feel that kind of feeel about mebe. you guys get my point? those kind of love-love feel . i did watch bull fighting until like ep 12? cause i really didn't had any feeling with the mebe. yeahhhh. [= && beside, there is more mike+rainie fans than mebe. yeah, so i really dony care.
BUT I REALLY REALLY CARE ABOUT THE STUPID GUILUNNNN LIKEEE )(*&^%$#@ !! ughh, i need toooo ventttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt !! yes , that piece of horrible pairing !! bebu is such a masterpieceeeee ~ okay. it is very late now, i should vent tmrw. [:
byeeeeeeeeee~
erm, can u please calm the heck down?!! & as dreamgal said us GuiLun fans wont care ATALL if bebu collab. when i read that i actually went pfft. erm, have u even read any guiLun fan saying that age was a problem? & again stop bashing gui gui just because u dont like th pairing. dreamgal wasn't trynna make you's like gui gui she was just stating why she liked GuiLun more than BeBu. & she also apologised for being disloyal, but don't tell me that u havent' EVERstopped liking an artist before? -well even if u haven't many have so it's hardly like being disloyal. Ok, u go do that. go to the HIM forum and write about all the imaginary interactions u've made up in ur head about Bebu, because they'll sure come true. && we get ur point, u dont have to diss mike. you're point is you don't like ANY other pairing with arron and hebe EXCEPTbebu. so u just go bash other artists that have dramas with them or artists that have many many interactions with them or artists that are MUCHMORE closer to them. & actually i think GuiLun is a masterpiece ~ :]
QUOTE (razel_fanatic07 @ Nov 19 2008 6 32 AM)
haha^^
is it true that te part gui gui had in Pi Li MIT was first offered to hebe??? i mean i saw some of bebu fans posted in winglin that it was forst offered to hebe then to selina then to ella, the last one is gui gui...
Actually, the male lead was supposed to be danson. then changed to arron. but anyways the point is, yh it was offered to hebe first, but the producers still picked gui gui to be arrons partner even tho hebe got a lot higher in the poll taken for the choosing for the female lead.
QUOTE (501stExile @ Nov 19 2008 10 59 AM)
okay...confirmation!!!
above, i typed GuiGui's name in simplified chinese...isn't it obvious?!!!
and i'll simply ignore GuiLun defenses....
*clears throat*
BEBU is MIRACLE
I believe hard work & mindset will reward us to what we want
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erm, NO it's not obvious actually. people who don't kno chinese obviously won't kno. people who only kno traditional chinese obviously won't kno. people who only kno simplified chinese obviously won't kno. they just look like 2 diff chinese characters. why would u do that anyways? typing it in 2 diff chinese characters.. if u wanted to make the point of their incest then u should have typed it correctly, wit the same chinese character.
& i think GuiLun is a MIRACLE too
Eternally-HT&AY
Nov 20 2008 6 41 AM
Errrr... this wasnt such a good idea... Mmm... we bebu babies reli dont mean any offence and we just needed to vent out our opinions>< To me, Hebe and Arron are my FAVE ACTORS AND ACTRESS ma idols u can say & i just love them ESP. TOGETHER! && Ill remain a die-hard fan of them till i die xDD x\ tho it kinda bothers me dat some ppl are saying that bebu babies are giving up and some are switching sides I mean we cant control whether ppl switch sides or not But u cant gaurantee that we bebu babies are giving up either srry but its kinda like implying u GL fans WANT us to give up ><
I relli dont have anything against gui gui and im actually okay with her But i dont like the GL pairing either >< Maybe its cuz i was a Bebu fan first and i gotta admit altho there were some rough times, but ive been a fan of bebu for the longest out of all my other pairings GL just gives me the sibling feeling thats all &&& no hard feelings but even if i tried to like the pairing i relli cant ><
Also, no offence, but if u go look at winglin and stuff there are GL fans that goes into the Bebu fanfics and start saying stuff I've seen a few which made authors relli upset But im just stating, cuz like this thread is suppose to be comments about celebreties and im just defending Bebu AND also the bebu babies
To make it clear the female lead was offered to Hebe first but she had Bullfighting so she had to reject it. It wasnt a matter of picking over one or the other. It was made my the votes and their option to boost Arron's fame
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JPOO i noe ur trying to defend GL but no offence, ur posts are offending i mean, how do u noe we're making up Bebu interactions? & we're here to speak our minds not bash eachother's point of view, ideas...
Also... 501stExile also made a notice to warn GL and MB fans that they mite not want to scroll down. So we're not trying to offend u guys but simply vent out. But in return it seems like ur trying to make us give up on Bebu or at least it seemed as though that was wut u were trying to imply I'm srry if this is offending any1 but im just trying to defend Bebu
I just hope all this will get solved and this conflict will stop x\ LOLOL we should just sit bak and relax and appreciate da GL and Bebu ness we got so far ;D Whheeee! Lol i mean arent fights tiring? it's like we're starting world war IV here xP
Why I like Bebu? Maybe to others u mite not notice the interactions and moments dat are so well hidden, but as bebu babies we relli observe when it comes to bebu ^^ && u can just see how special their bond is to have attracted so many fans with just these hidden chemistry Imagine a collab drama as main leads ;D I LOOVVVEEE the way they smile when they're next to eachother & their personality is like made for eachother Also, from their lil interactions they've managed to capture so many bebu babies' hearts ;D Teheh ^^ --
BEBUUNNEESSSSSS <3<3<3<3<3x3 KEEP DA BEBU TRAIN GOIN! PS. apologies to dreamgal for any hurtful comments from da bebu babies xD
angelangie
Nov 20 2008 8 25 AM
^ it ok we know u just want to vent your anger ... but indirectly we as GL fans will love to take a stands.....no offense to Bebu either but just that we have different peferences.......
yes it was noted there....but one can never ever resist the temptation of getting into this....lol
so u will say bebu forever and i will say guilun forever..... ^^
wloves
Nov 20 2008 11 55 AM
Hey just voicing some opinions here. Somehow, Hebe and Aaron doesn't seem really compatiable to me. I mean, they hardly have any interactions. And, there is the age difference. Yes, Aaron seems matured, but somehow the age gap bothers me. Whereas, Guigui and Aaron seems perfect. It's kinda cute to see a couple like them The girl who is cute and the guy very cool. THis makes them look even cuter, like the way how guigui makes Aaron laugh. And you have to admit that they are way closer to each other than Hebe and Aaron.
Yes, i know it's because of Pi Li MIT then guigui and aaron got close to each other, but so what? No one can really verify their fight, you know how the papparazzi works. They like to blow things up, and from what i see from the promos they did, they look perfectly fine to me. Still as close as ever.
Whereas for Bebu, i cant really see their cuteness or anything that makes me like them. Many of you here simply thinks that Guigui is for wangzi and Hebe for Aaron, so GuiLun will not work out. BUT, let me remind you guys, its Aaron, GuiGui, Hebe and Wangzi choice of who they want to be with. Furthermore, Hebe and Aaron cant date each other, neither can Guigui and Wangzi. So whats with the arguing?
Personally, im a GuiLun fan, but i see much more interactions between Mike and Hebe. At least they acted before and got a chance to interact better with each other. On the other hand, all the interactions Hebe and Aaron had is MVs, and there is just 2 or 3.
I guess GuiLun just suits me better. The chemistry they have is WOW.
oh wait, think about in this way if you think "if Pi Li MIT didn't star Aaron & GuiGui...would there be BIG BOLD ideas of matching GUILUN TOGETHER???" If Hebe and Aaron arent in the same company, will they have any interactions?
And, Hebe totally doesnt suit the role of Tian Mo Xing, she is too elegant in a way for that role. Clarifications- I do like Hebe, just not the Bebu pairing. I highly doubt the fact that Hebe was the first female lead for Pi Li MIT, she really doesnt suit the character, and it will be hard for her to act it out.
Whereas, tian mo xing, this character is somewhat like guigui's character. Which makes it easier to pull it off. I mean the character is a little clumsy, cute and funny. That is totally guigui's character in a way.
So support pi li mit, it is Aaron's first lead drama afterall.
★JPOO'
Nov 20 2008 8 12 PM
QUOTE (Eternally-HT&AY @ Nov 20 2008 5 41 AM)
Errrr... this wasnt such a good idea... Mmm... we bebu babies reli dont mean any offence and we just needed to vent out our opinions>< To me, Hebe and Arron are my FAVE ACTORS AND ACTRESS ma idols u can say & i just love them ESP. TOGETHER! && Ill remain a die-hard fan of them till i die xDD x\ tho it kinda bothers me dat some ppl are saying that bebu babies are giving up and some are switching sides I mean we cant control whether ppl switch sides or not But u cant gaurantee that we bebu babies are giving up either srry but its kinda like implying u GL fans WANT us to give up ><
I relli dont have anything against gui gui and im actually okay with her But i dont like the GL pairing either >< Maybe its cuz i was a Bebu fan first and i gotta admit altho there were some rough times, but ive been a fan of bebu for the longest out of all my other pairings GL just gives me the sibling feeling thats all &&& no hard feelings but even if i tried to like the pairing i relli cant ><
Also, no offence, but if u go look at winglin and stuff there are GL fans that goes into the Bebu fanfics and start saying stuff I've seen a few which made authors relli upset But im just stating, cuz like this thread is suppose to be comments about celebreties and im just defending Bebu AND also the bebu babies
To make it clear the female lead was offered to Hebe first but she had Bullfighting so she had to reject it. It wasnt a matter of picking over one or the other. It was made my the votes and their option to boost Arron's fame
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JPOO i noe ur trying to defend GL but no offence, ur posts are offending i mean, how do u noe we're making up Bebu interactions? & we're here to speak our minds not bash eachother's point of view, ideas...
Also... 501stExile also made a notice to warn GL and MB fans that they mite not want to scroll down. So we're not trying to offend u guys but simply vent out. But in return it seems like ur trying to make us give up on Bebu or at least it seemed as though that was wut u were trying to imply I'm srry if this is offending any1 but im just trying to defend Bebu
I just hope all this will get solved and this conflict will stop x\ LOLOL we should just sit bak and relax and appreciate da GL and Bebu ness we got so far ;D Whheeee! Lol i mean arent fights tiring? it's like we're starting world war IV here xP
Why I like Bebu? Maybe to others u mite not notice the interactions and moments dat are so well hidden, but as bebu babies we relli observe when it comes to bebu ^^ && u can just see how special their bond is to have attracted so many fans with just these hidden chemistry Imagine a collab drama as main leads ;D I LOOVVVEEE the way they smile when they're next to eachother & their personality is like made for eachother Also, from their lil interactions they've managed to capture so many bebu babies' hearts ;D Teheh ^^ --
my utter most apologies. i'm so sorry if my comments seemed mean lol i'm soooo sorry, it was just because it somehow seemed like u's were bashing gui gui & i get pretty annoyed when ppl do that. nonooo i didn't mean that you's were making up interactions i was just saying because that girl i quoted up there said she was gonna make interactions up to write on the HIM forum. to make the producers think that they actually have interactions. & nononooo i'm not trying to make u's give up on bebu i'm just speaking out my views. & yet again i was pretty annoyed at the time when i heard ppl bashing gui gui. so i was getting defensive and started being offending. my deepest deepest deepest apologies if i've hurt anyone. i'm soo sorry, i didn't mean it. yup u'r defending BeBu like we're defending GuiLun. it's ok :] we're all fans of Arron. ryt hahaa.
indigo sky
Nov 21 2008 4 19 AM
I'm wary to get into some huge virtual battle over a couple ship, but I would like to point out that although 501stExile mentioned that in Wikipedia it states that:
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In Chinese society males should not marry females of the same surname (this has been largely disregarded recently as the Chinese population has expanded to such an extent that people who hold the same surname might have little or no relation with each other at all). This is seen as incest and it is thought there is a risk that abnormal births might result.
However, she failed to mention the text in the parenthesis, which clearly states that:
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(this has been largely disregarded recently as the Chinese population has expanded to such an extent that people who hold the same surname might have little or no relation with each other at all)
and with Wu being such a common last name, I doubt anyone today in China, Hong Kong, or Taiwan would regard that as incest.
So honestly, Arron marrying Gui Gui shouldn't be a problem at all these days. (I personally would not mind it at all. XD) I am declaring myself as a GuiLun shipper, and I, in no way, do not dislike the idea of BeBu. Why? Who are we to decide who Arron gets to date, marry, or love? We're not Arron. We are part of his fanbase, and we all have our own opinions. Opinions of other people shouldn't be bashed or be praised as holy words, because not one opinion will be entirely the same. If you think about it, would you want someone to say "OMG!!!!!!! WHAT YOU THINK IS WRONG! WRONG! I'M THE RIGHT ONE HERE!" I highly doubt anyone would want that, so let us keep the peace here? We love GuiLun, you guys love BeBu. I know that this thread was made for bashing, but however this IS the Critics' Thread, and as dreamgal93 said, fans are allowed to come and back up their opinion. You can't stop us from coming to this thread and supporting GuiLun, but there is seriously no need to overreact here, folks. We are GuiLun fans, we are BeBu fans, but in reality, Arron is dating no one! There's no point as to say which ship is better because these are just fantasies and our hopes for Arron, but we can't make Arron date one or the other just to prove a point. It's like your friends telling you "You should date him because.....but you can't date him because....." but when it comes to love, do you really want other people to choose for you?
Now, I have many reasons why I love GuiLun. Yes, I know the ship started out because of PLM, but what's that got to do with anything? I'm assuming your parents have told you how they met, and if GuiLun really do become a couple someday, they would tell their kids and friends that they met on the set of PLM. That's all there's to it. I adore Gui Gui because she seems to make the whole environment glow with happiness, and I do agree Arron seems to be much more lively and relaxed whenever he's around her. He seems so very protective of her, like when the cast pranked on her the last day of filming and he went to console her, and when they pranked her on April Fools' Day and Arron seemed so determined to find her. These small cute moments really caught my attention, and I love these moments of what seems to be so natural and almost romantic to a point. As of right now, I still can't be sure if I should see GuiLun as close friends or as a couple, because I would be fine with both. (I would also freak out and squeal if GuiLun ever actually got together.) In news released yesterday, I should assume, Arron stated he was dating no one at this point because of a broken heart from last year. This probably killed the chances of all GuiLun AND BeBu actually becoming a couple, but there will always be that hope that they will someday. As for me, Gui Gui seems to be the best bet for me. Before you guys start ganging up on me, let me state that Gui Gui and the rest of 黑Girl are all people. They are like you and me. It doesn't matter if you don't like them, because there will always be people who do. And I'm positive that everyone in 黑Girl are all wonderful, amazing, and unique people. You might hate Gui Gui because you don't like 黑Girl, but honestly, you'll have to start seeing them as individuals. Say you know a pair of twins. Just because you don't like one of them, does that mean you will hate the other one just because of that fact? I highly doubt it. I believe Gui Gui is a very charismatic and carefree girl. She's very pretty and natural, and always knows to look on the positive side of things. This is my opinion on her. I think she is very suitable for Arron, because they are both young, hard-working, and playful people. They always seem to have a very good time, and even if they argue (such as the news report) they always seem to make up. This is common in friendship and relationship, and it's a very healthy thing to do. What's so wrong with that?
I will most likely always support GuiLun, and I will promise myself never to bash something other than that, because these things are just a matter of opinions. Who am I to judge or convert? It's almost like trying to convince someone to convert to a different religion. It's really difficult to. What I'm really trying to say is, stop the fights, feel free to rant, but seriously don't go overboard like most of the comments I've seen in this thread, and Gui Gui is honestly not a bad person. Hm, alright?
501stExile
Nov 21 2008 1 20 PM
REMINDER
THIS IS BEBU FANS' VENT OUT PLACE...NOT GUILUN'S
You're making this place a GuiLun Base...
if you continue dominating a thread not really meant for you, then we BeBu Babies can move somewhere else where no one can disturb our vent-out castle ========================================================
Hebe is senior and wiser than Gui Gui...PERIOD 2!!!
For someone like as Baroque-ish person like Aaron, he needs the guidance and advice that he can get from someone like Hebe...
I (and most, if not all BeBu people) Gui Gui is tooooo immature for Aaron, who is serious about a lot of things although he IS CAPABLE of being an enthusiastic little kid
oh!!! Hebe does play around at times too...right BeBu peepz??????????? P-E-R-F-E-C-T
Lammington
Nov 21 2008 10 38 PM
Whilst you may see it as a 'venting' spot, the fact is a lot of posts are attacks, and within the rules people are allowed to defend their idols so long as it doesn't get into a mud-slinging match. You can't say "you're not allowed in this thread if you don't like it," as the equivalent response would be "well just don't read the posts if you don't like them."
Teresa Tian
Nov 22 2008 5 21 AM
Woahhh! I didn't see this coming! Ok....u guys...bebu fans...guilun fans... plz calm down u guys. Even though Im a huge bebu fan and not so a guilun fan... I feel really offended reading all these guilun posts..but i understand. U guys probably feel the same way towards us. But I want to say sumthing. I don't dislike Gui Gui because she's paired up wit Arron but its just the way she acts. She seems very childish but then again i guess she's only 19. But still ppl at the age of 19 should be really mature. And also she's been putting a lot of drama into Arron's life, putting so much rumors out there dat can actually hurt him and his career. I pretty much prefer gui gui wit wang zi. As for arron and gui gui its more of a sibling kind of relationship.
Ok on to bebu! ^-^ Yay! Actually there's actually been a lot of interactions between them...but u just can't see it. Well u can see it...but u'll hav to look carefully. Haha! I got to say this! But I turned into a 100% bebu fan after watching a vid of Arron poking...or nudging i would say...hebe in the back in the better world rehearsal!! He he! Ahhh! I couldn't stop smiling after watching dat vid! So, ★JPOO' u shouldn't be saying dat. x-define is not coming up wit imaginary interactions! Wat u said really threw me off. Hebe and Arron hav so much things in common. They both are really great singers, having amazing voices. Can play the same instruments, etc. Hebe's really cute, pretty, is a great actress, and there's that bubbly personality dat she has. She's often very quiet wen she's with selina and ella but wen she's alone she's really outgoing and funny. She's mature and Arron acts really mature for his age too. Uhmm...they're both the shy ones in their group. Lol...I got a lot more to say dat they hav in common but i can't think of them at the top of my head. Most ppl dislike bebu becuz of their age difference. Or use dat as an excuse to defend guilun and say dat bebu isnt a good couple. Im not saying dat its all of u guilun fans dat r saying it but some are. Us bebu fans well we still hav hope for them to collaborate even though we dont see any major interactions wit them now. We've been waiting for a collaboration for quite a while now but no matter wat we're still hoping and waiting. However i really respect ur guys opinions. I hope for all this to stop cuz its hurting both groups.
applepieangel
Nov 22 2008 8 06 PM
okayy.......i luv bebu.....n dunlike guilun...(but dat doesnt mean i hate gui...i lurv her!!! n guiwang ) yupp... even though its not widely regarded...in china...but according 2 confucius,ITS STILL INCEST!!!!!(and confucius is veryveryveryveryveryvery wise )they might be veryveryveryveryverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy distant relatives...n yeah...incest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ah bu looks TOTALLY sweet with hebe but...looks................ err..........weird n awkward with gui.........yeah... so thry should listen 2 the wise guy!!!! n go bebu go!!!!!
love*Samantha
Nov 23 2008 2 27 AM
QUOTE (501stExile @ Nov 21 2008 4 20 AM)
REMINDER
THIS IS BEBU FANS' VENT OUT PLACE...NOT GUILUN'S
You're making this place a GuiLun Base...
if you continue dominating a thread not really meant for you, then we BeBu Babies can move somewhere else where no one can disturb our vent-out castle
Then I suggest that BeBu fans take their "vents" somewhere else. Because here on AF, there are no rules that restrict members from replying to threads. Members can post anywhere they'd like to. When you created this thread, you should have already known / seen it coming that this thread would be swamped with GuiLun fans.
Anyway, about the topic in discussion-- I don't think BeBu is better than GuiLun, but neither do I think GuiLun is better than BeBu. There's no such thing as any pairing being "better" than another pairing. It's all a matter of preference/opinion. It'll never be fact. IMHO, nothing good comes out of these kinds of threads. There will only be arguments and disputes.
And it's sort of saddening to see people argue about these kinds of things. Why not just leave things the way they are? GuiLun fans (on AF) never bash BeBu. So why do (some) BeBu fans have to stir things up? It's tiring and frustrating for both sides.
The_Angels
Nov 23 2008 5 47 PM
you know people, totally calm down. look, i have nothing against guilun too even though i am a hardcore bebu fan <3 i feel offended reading some of the guilun posts... I know maybe we had our own faults too, but it hurts me to see you guys say something like, BEBU HAS NO INTERACTIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. but, it is just like, if Guilun never had collab, you guys would also look for evidence that they interacted or some sort right? i mean, duh, since we are fans, sure we would want them to collab and find those little little things between them. And I admire my fellow bebu babies for this. Come on, it is not an easy job for us to keep up with this, bebu, a couple that DID NOT COME OUT FROM ANY COLLAB IN TV DRAMAS. And, so i get really offended when some of you actually said that they have no reactions etc, cause i think us bebu babies really worked hard for it. <3
We are not trying to say Bebu is better than guilun or whatsoever cause everybody has their own opinions and stuff. <3
BEBU FTW <3
Bubbly_Millionheiress
Nov 23 2008 6 21 PM
whoa! i think this thread is a bad idea for the main reason is that it gives some bebu fans a chance to bash guigui. i'm a bebu fan & i don't think my opinion of them will ever change. hebe is aaron's best pair to date according to me. however i think some fans in this thread are going a little overboard with their anti-guigui/ anti-guilun agenda.
to me i feel that if you truly love a couple, you'll support them till the end without resorting to critisising or bashing any other people who are linked up with them. i'll forever be a bebu fan but i'm not going to jump into the bandwagon & say i dislike/hate guigui or guilun. i would be really happy if aaron ends up with hebe but at the same time you can't just help rumours sometimes you know. aaron is so darn attractive. i think most probably every girl who works/ will work with him will be rumoured with him. hehe..
`drmyslamyi`
Nov 23 2008 6 27 PM
i never did expect myself to come back here. but i guess i couldn't help it.
i agree with The_Angels. it's really rare for a couple pairing to appear without a collab in any tv dramas.
and yes, there were many times while reading your posts that i wanted to correct what you all said. but...i guess everyone has their own opinions. so i'll let that go as well...
bebu is RARE. sometimes even i wonder how they can stand for so long. so yes, this trust does go shaky once in a while. but we lived through BF. we even lived through the Jay-Hebe period. how often do you see this kind of support?
i'm not going to bash guigui. i have to admit that i actually like her. but as her herself, not as arron's lover. well yes. you never know what can happen. we aren't arron, aren't hebe, aren't guigui, aren't wangzi. we can't choose who they like, right? so can't we just keep this to our imaginations? i don't mind what you write in your fanfic in winglin. but i don't really see the point in bashing each other up. it just makes things look nastier than they should be.
like i've said earlier. everyone has their own point of view. and for me, it's BEBU TO THE CORE. and i don't think a simple drama serial can change my thoughts that easily.
dreamgal♥
Nov 23 2008 6 30 PM
the reason why i came in here in the first place to defend guilun is because i have had enough of the bebu fans bashing guilun. some bebu fans, whether on AF or even outside, have said relly hurtful things about guilun. worse than saying bebu has no interactions and i also had many times wanted to correct what they said, but i just held it in. it was really very hurtful. when i came in here for the first time and saw the first few posts, i was already riling up. i just HAD to defend guilun. i'm guessing the reason why guilun fans appear harsh is because arron/bebu fans bashed guilun first.. and we just had to defend our favourite pairing, whether in a harsh or nice way
but i'm glad some of the bebu fans on AF aren't that harsh and are actually pretty sensible and matured. i've seen worser cases outside of AF and sighs well it didn't actually encourage me to support bebu so enthusiastically anymore. tons of reasons as to why i'm neutral towards bebu now. i don't hate them, but i just can't seem to support them as a pairing anymore...and it's not just because the guilun pairing came up
and actually, all the guilun bashing from bebu fans has also somewhat made me distant myself away from bebu :/
Berry_Blast
Nov 23 2008 8 15 PM
Actually, i believe that most of us do not hate guigui or guilun. What we want is a Bebu pairing, thus when Aaron was paied with guigui, we were upset as he did not get to be paired up with hebe and also rather shocked that farenheit is going closer to HeiGirl.
I do not really get what the directors are thinking about actually, i mean just surf through winglin or any other fanfiction websites and bebu will be flooding all the others, but i suppose that it has never occured to the directors that they should actually remember that the viewers choice is vital in the media cicle too.
Take me for an example, even though i said that i do not hte guigui or guilun, i will not watch "the clue collector" as i want a bebu not a guilun andd seeing guillun will only agitate me. Maybe i am the only one who thinks this way but i just wanted to voice my thoughts[font="Tahoma"][/font][size="3"][/size]
★JPOO'
Nov 23 2008 9 05 PM
501st Exile ACTUALLY we're not making it a GuiLun base, u're here venting(A.K.A) bashing our fav.artist or fav pairing & do u think we could just look at the posts & walk on by or just completly not read this thread? Why remind us? we KNOW for sure that we CAN come in here to defend our favourite pairing. & if u want, yeh you can move out to somewhere else. & will u PLEASE stop bashing gui gui?!! *rolls eyes* hmm, it doesn't matter if gui gui is too imature for arron, cz in my opionion it seems like arron loves her immaturity. for bringing liveliness everywhere. he laughs at her all d time, how cute. AND actually diff personalitys usually are suited for each other becuase if they're both quiet then won't it be soo boring? haa
QUOTE (`drmyslamyi` @ Nov 23 2008 5 27 PM)
i agree with The_Angels. it's really rare for a couple pairing to appear without a collab in any tv dramas.
and yes, there were many times while reading your posts that i wanted to correct what you all said. but...i guess everyone has their own opinions. so i'll let that go as well...
bebu is RARE. sometimes even i wonder how they can stand for so long. so yes, this trust does go shaky once in a while. but we lived through BF. we even lived through the Jay-Hebe period. how often do you see this kind of support?
I gotta say i really do admire ur support for Bebu, it's been many years right? & just seeing them off-screen rarely, & being such a die-hard fan for them i truly rare. BUT i have to say,
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it's really rare to start a pairing without a collab on drama? is that so? theres ShowXJolin, SelinaXShow, JayXJolin. & many more i can name.. i guess it's not that rare anymore But of course we see these pairings in a diff way, in MV's, awards, or some sort of collab instead of dramas anyways that was totally off-topic haahaaa .
QUOTE (dreamgal93 @ Nov 23 2008 5 30 PM)
the reason why i came in here in the first place to defend guilun is because i have had enough of the bebu fans bashing guilun. some bebu fans, whether on AF or even outside, have said relly hurtful things about guilun. worse than saying bebu has no interactions and i also had many times wanted to correct what they said, but i just held it in. it was really very hurtful. when i came in here for the first time and saw the first few posts, i was already riling up. i just HAD to defend guilun. i'm guessing the reason why guilun fans appear harsh is because arron/bebu fans bashed guilun first.. and we just had to defend our favourite pairing, whether in a harsh or nice way
but i'm glad some of the bebu fans on AF aren't that harsh and are actually pretty sensible and matured. i've seen worser cases outside of AF and sighs well it didn't actually encourage me to support bebu so enthusiastically anymore. tons of reasons as to why i'm neutral towards bebu now. i don't hate them, but i just can't seem to support them as a pairing anymore...and it's not just because the guilun pairing came up
and actually, all the guilun bashing from bebu fans has also somewhat made me distant myself away from bebu :/
you're so damn right, sometimes fans make me dislike the pairing
QUOTE (Berry_Blast @ Nov 23 2008 7 15 PM)
Actually, i believe that most of us do not hate guigui or guilun. What we want is a Bebu pairing, thus when Aaron was paied with guigui, we were upset as he did not get to be paired up with hebe and also rather shocked that farenheit is going closer to HeiGirl.
I do not really get what the directors are thinking about actually, i mean just surf through winglin or any other fanfiction websites and bebu will be flooding all the others, but i suppose that it has never occured to the directors that they should actually remember that the viewers choice is vital in the media cicle too.
Take me for an example, even though i said that i do not hte guigui or guilun, i will not watch "the clue collector" as i want a bebu not a guilun andd seeing guillun will only agitate me. Maybe i am the only one who thinks this way but i just wanted to voice my thoughts[font="Tahoma"][/font][size="3"][/size]
the directors obviously picked gui gui for a reason. & i think it's because she was best suited for the role? but lots of people like guilun as a pairing anyways ^^ hmm i think u should watch MIT because u're missing out. & wouldn't u want to support arron anyways? cz i'm pretty sure hebe would be
Lammington
Nov 24 2008 12 39 AM
I can understand Bebu fans being disappointed that their pairing didn't get this drama, but the fact is, if Arron & Hebe's careers continue to succeed, there will be lots of dramas they do with other people. Complaining about the pairings directors, producers and the like choose for them won't hurry any possibility of them working together at all, and if anything will hamper it, as channeling frustration into attacks on an individual or a pairing involving one of their idols will likely only lessen support for a couple amongst those undecided, and thus create less of a support base to sway casting.
I will never, ever understand what logic commands people to think they're only true supporters of a pairing if they oppose all others involving those two to the point of attacking people. At the end of the day, we have no control over the casting or the love lives of the entertainers we like, so isn't it much easier to enjoy what their career brings, and just hope that things work out the way we'd like to see them? Much less stressful, I'd say.
little_shooting_star
Nov 24 2008 8 25 AM
i kinda dont find it reasonable to say bebu bashed guilun first... i dont think so... i abseloutely HATE the stupid article about gg being 'bashed' by a whole lot of fans saying shes ghost and all that... i dont believe out of all the comments fans were only saying how shes a ghost etc.. pple dont just hate others cause of their name cause thats plain stupid... obviously ppl didnt like her earlier from WAHSH and the whole behaviour thing... but y didnt the article mention that? seriously i refuse to believe EVERY single comment going aginst gg was becuz of all this wat i call invalid points... along the line sum1 MUST HAVE stated sumthing about her talents abilities or behaviour... and that? i wouldnt even consider bashing..its critisms... and i dont think they were ALL bebu fans either... but from wat ive seen its guilun that happens to attack bebu... of course im not god so i wouldnt have possibly seen everything that happened.. but thats from wat ive seen so far... and maybe that y im starting to lean towarsd the disliking of guilun...i really have issues with guilun fans...esp gg fans =.="
i dont think its much of a choice to whether u hate gg or not... sumtimes it just that gut feeling u have wen sum girl just walks past and u just hate her =] for no reasons.. strange isnt it? im sure sum1 must have encountered it before.. cause i dont think any would actually waste sum anount of time in their life putting it into hating sum1.. it just occurs so naturally and uncontrolable...=]
and about guilun i stated my dislikes over the other threads.. actually this is rather offtopic but isnt the whole point of this thread almost identical to the other? but i noticed how alot of people have been mentioning about bebu fans.. lets just get this straight... if bebu fans are agressive and defensive i take it that guilun arent any better... its unfair to say bebu are harsh and bash guilun, becuz lets not forget its not that guilun fans were sweet lil innocent angels not daring to speak up... i sure dont believe that yes i agree sum bebu fans r over the line, but its wrong to think guilun werent like that either.. both fans sides are extreme so dont keep pointing at one end in specific
Eternally-HT&AY
Nov 24 2008 10 04 AM
Eeeekkk, i was kinda hoping this thread have been closed down so dat there would be no more war going on >< Just wanted to see how things are progressing and i guess its sumwhat better? xD
I really agree with most ppl saying dat as fans we shouldnt bash other ppl's ideal pairings and etc. Tho i also relli disagree with some dat are saying Bebu are bashing GL more than vice versa If you look at some of the fanfics and other places u can relli see how harsh some or a few GuiLun fans are to Bebu x\ I've come across a few, and it relli upsets me sumtimes and i can say the same goes to Bebu babies I think the things dat get us most upset is when our pairings are bashed by others rite? Its kinda unfair to say that us Bebu babies start it more tho. . . But maybe dats bcuz some of GuiLun fans barely came across any
But I for one, would NEVER start comparing these two pairings randomly out of no where & i noe other bebu babies dont either Some mite not like the idea of GuiLun pairing, but i noe they wouldnt bash them for no reason && every fan has a time where they mite say sumthing they dont relli mean out of rashness or when trying to defend their pairing
Everyone has the rite to state their opinion tho xD Im also stating mine so srry if it is offending in any way
&& There are many pairings made without collabs but i guess by rare `drmyslamyi` meant that Bebu have lasted for quite awhile now and are still on going xD Plus, all pairings are special ^^
Im not a fan of GuiLUn but it doesnt mean dat i hate Gui Gui && I am against the fact of any Gui Gui hating I mean no celebrity relli deserves to be bashed or hated Cuz as fans, we relli dont noe how they relli are in real life So its not fair to them
LOLOL hmm on the bright side it got us all defending our idol pairing &&&& we understand eachother's POV more xDD I dont noe if this thread was a good thing but O__o xD Teheh ^ ^ I also notice some Bebu babies dat have been MIA are coming and standing up for Bebu <3
BeeBuuu <3 PS. Srry if there was anything i said dat was offending to youh >< NITES! xD
♥ H A E N A A
Nov 24 2008 6 19 PM
gosh. I see 501stExile, Taiwangirl etc. BeBuLove Forum <333 Don't think you guys remember me though.
I am both a fan of BB and GL. No preference over the other. I understand the BeBu Babies etc. feelings for BeBu not collaborating till now. Because I went through the times with them too. But I can't simple hate GuiGui because of that. Well, maybe because I'm a GL fan too. I don't want to comment much. But why not, well the usual sentence I always post at BeBu threads, just wait for them to collaborate and mantain peace?
But yo. I respect the BeBu fans decision for using this thread as a venting place. [:
The GuiLun pairing have issues, don't they. With the BeBu fans and the GuiWang fans. -.-
Oh yea. Sometimes, people might think BeBU fans are crazy, for rooting the BeBu pairing when they basically have nothing going on together. It's from fanfics. A stupid reason? I don't know. But try reading the fanfics. You may fall in lvoe with BeBu. It may not work with everyone but, yea. Let's just say everyone has their own opinion. It's not that BeBu fans are desperate. It's just that they wanna see their dream pairingg. Everyone has that, I'm sure.
BUT.
I dont think bashing from either sides are needed. For instance, BeBu might be upset with GuiLun pairing. But they can't possibly bbash GuiGui just because GuiGui ' snatched ' Hebe's place. NO. I'm not saying all BeBu fans are like that.
Like it or not, the BeBu pairing has more issues with the GuiLun pairing, more than others like MeBe etc. Seems like Arron's good with those two, eh. haha.
BEBUU <3 I love the pairing, yes I really do. The fans of the pairing are really faithful. Since the Zhi Dui Ni You Gan Jue period till now, they still strongly support the pairing. But, we have to understand, some things don't always go our way.
Eternally-HT&AY
Nov 25 2008 8 59 AM
Farhanaa, xD You went MIA hahah xP I remember youhh ! Im shure all the bebu babies do too Youh prob dont remember me tho xP
&& hahha i agree with everything youh say there xD &&& sometimes rashness from the other pairing's fans are unavoidable so lets all forgive and forget if thats possible ><
Ehhh i said pwetty much everything i wanted to on my previous post lol x) Wasnt relli planning to post but just lurking around here ^^
Signing out,
*.marshmalloww
Nov 26 2008 2 27 AM
QUOTE (babeyelmo @ Nov 18 2008 5 11 AM)
i am not against any pairing of aaron and who ever! but am against some people around here...do yal really hate the others girls that much?...haha
BUT what i wanna as kis what do you guys see in Hebe and Aaron? this is not a threatening question i just really want to know because i;ve never seen them do anything together that made me go OMG they are so cute together or made me think they should be a pair..soo do tell me so i can get your side of the story
I agree x 105451210 No offense, but I find it kinda stupid how some people like BeBu? Cuz some people I know like them cuz they like Hebe the best in S.H.E and Arron the best in FRH...soo....FAVE+FAVE= nice couple? Like seriously, I loveee Hebe and Arron, but seriously; not together at all. I don't like GuiLun, but if you had to have me choose, I really rather choose GuiLun than Bebu. I definitely have NOTHINGG against age, as some couples I like have huge age differences as well.
duuckkiiee
Nov 26 2008 4 54 AM
Hi guys, I recently found this thread and when I read all these posts I was like WHOA... O__O"
So I'll get it straight first that I'm a BeBu fan, but I'm also a fan of Gui Gui. Not GuiLun, 'cause well I prefer her with Wang Zi. I think they look super cute together in Brown Sugar Macchiato. But you know, that was because they had to be, but people can dream X]
I think because they offered the female lead for Pi Li MIT to Hebe first, they might again if Arron will star in a new drama (besides the new one that got canceled with Gui Gui, right?)
I love the BeBu pairing although I totally have no idea why xD I think they just look cute together. (No back up ><)
GuiLun... Hmm.. Yeah they look cute too but they (as some people have said already) give me the sort of brother-sister vibe(: Very cute but like sibling cute.
Ehh... I just realized my post has no meaning whatsoever XD Oh well X]
Asiul_
Nov 26 2008 8 17 AM
QUOTE (hebe.x3 @ Nov 26 2008 12 27 PM)
I agree x 105451210 No offense, but I find it kinda stupid how some people like BeBu? Cuz some people I know like them cuz they like Hebe the best in S.H.E and Arron the best in FRH...soo....FAVE+FAVE= nice couple? Like seriously, I loveee Hebe and Arron, but seriously; not together at all. I don't like GuiLun, but if you had to have me choose, I really rather choose GuiLun than Bebu. I definitely have NOTHINGG against age, as some couples I like have huge age differences as well.
lol, u find it stupid how some people like bebu? sorry but isnt dat quite offensive to bebu fans? ur lyk insulting them... well, some people lyk bebu is because[i think] they look good tgt. they have their own imaginations. like fanfics, such and such........but i do think it all started with the mv, only hv feelings for u? perhaps, its the same cute baby face looking couple? i dont know. its just different people, different thoughts. but either way, although u hv already said no offence, u still shouldnt hv said that bebu fans are stupid.
xdefiine
Nov 26 2008 11 44 AM
I agree with Cold Autumn Tears. Excuse me to hebe.x3, That is really very very offensive to the bebu fans.
&& Firstly, Hebe was given the role in PiLi MIT. It was because she injured her back during DNYBY. So she decline the role. DNYBY finished fliming last year december. && PLMIT starting fliming in 2008, jan. & i felt awfully offended when ppl say that tian mo xing isn't suitable for hebe. Like, How do you even know if hebe can't potray the character well? yes, i do agree that hebe's face doesn't seem to be right for tian mo xing. && actually, if you guys did watch DNYBY, sheng xue's character && tian mo xing are quite alike.
They are both muddle-head && cute.[&& i didn't meant guigui okay. It is just the character.] Okay, i really dont know how to explain this. -___-'' Gosh, i s*ck at explaining. BUt yeah, they are acually, alike. So i seriously quite pissed about how those guilun fans keep saying that hebe wont be able to potray tian mo xing role well. It made me felt like as through, you guys are trying to pull hebe down && somehow. trying to protect guigui saying how suitable she is in the role than hebe. it seems like you guys are trying to likee.. erm, compare hebe with guigui.
& I'm pretty sorry to say but, Guigui isn't even fit to be compared with Hebe. Hebe 101% plus chop can sing better than guigui.Or any other things Bottom line : Guigui sucks. I'm sorry if i offended any guigui/guilun fans. I know im being like very blunt but really,sorry if i really offend you guys. But anyways, all of you all hating me already . -__-'' yeahs, so what's the point. I dont care if you guys hate me. Cause nobody is perfect . [:
angelangie
Nov 27 2008 9 05 AM
looks you guys got to stop.....
no bashing everyone just states your points....why come up with the words 'Gui Gui Sucks', 'BEBu fans are Stupids' ????
this is just over......way overs....you guys can vents on your dislikes....why guilun dont sit well for you guys and this and that.....that their little bit or tiny little closeness irritates the hell out of you.......or how fakes you guys felt gui gui acting is and how she is unable to get into the characters but isnt it just bad that you guys go give words and words that gets people on the first gears of defensiviness????
come on guys.....take a break....everyone is entitled to their opinions but be fair k.....
i prefer guilun but i'm not bashing bebu because to me i just prefer guilun over bebu........
little_shooting_star
Nov 27 2008 1 18 PM
im quite ok with words like gg or hebe s*ck... as long as people JUSTIFY their reasons... but saying bebu fans are stupid then thats not right cause ur meant to be only criticisng the certain celeb not the fans... if u really dont know the rules go back and read page 1 the rules where quoted a couple of times... well before gg fans came in here they probably knew wat theyre gonna be up against and wat kind of comments will be present.. so guilun fans overall shouldnt spazz about it... i find it fair.. we're not in ggs thread badmouthing her.. we came to a specific place and i c nothing wrong with that... i know their are fans who r sensitive to comments by other people here but u have to be prepared... if ppl critices bebu here i dont see y ppl should get all worked up on it... if its ok to critices guilun im sure its quite ok with bebu... but both fans dont have to be so senstive, and if u r, consider leaving now cause im sure overtime there are comment worse to come... if were gonna bash either guilun or bebu do it fair and state legitamite reasons... and just by saying no offence makes no difference... either way the person reading would get offended... so i dont get if hebe.x3 said no offence already and xdefiine said gg sucks back and said no offence wat the commotion about being offended? u both offended each other so y bother saying ur offended? all thses comments every line possibly could offend any1, just consider the truthfully if theyre true or not and admit to it... and yes guilun are cute in looks but the whole personality and attictude behaviour thing blew it for me with guilun... and the chemistry seems fake too... my personal oppinion, dont get to worked up... call me blind if u like for me not to notice their interaction but i sense no feelings in it sorry...
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