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darkxgrlxdevil
After I saw the poll for Matsujun Vs. Yamapi, Jun won! I'm glad for that.. because people are putting their honest opinion as to whose more talented, I'm just curious to know where does kame stand, in his acting, singing, and drama votes, whose more talented is what i mean, please be honest, I honestly like Kame and Jun but i liked Kame first so its Kame for me!! What about u guys??
C♥KAT-TUN~Shun
If it's for acting, then Matsujun without a doubt, he's a tremendous actor, very versatile and gifted. He is so able to channel into the roles he plays and bring them to life on screen. I've liked him ever since his Gokusen days...I think he can even be considered a young "veteran" in the japanese acting world, having been acting for so many years and in so many well-known dramas.
But coming in second is Kame, he has improved so much as an actor, although he hasn't been acting very long compared to Jun, but he has proven to me that he has the potentials. He's quite versatile, and in his recent series 'Kami no Shizuku', he has shown a more mature side of his acting.
Yamapi has yet to impress me...but he is slowly improving...I'll give him that.

For singing, it would be Kame, I like his vocals the most among the 3.
Jun's vocal is not very good, no offense Jun fans...I think he's perhaps the weakest in Arashi in terms of vocals.
Yamapi's voice is ok, but too weak sometimes.

With dramas, then it's a tie between Kame & Jun for me...there's more of Kame's dramas which I liked than the other 2, however Jun's 'Gokusen' and HYD are my top 2 fav dramas of all-time, so I really don't know who to pick for this one.

Overall though, it's still very close between Kame & Jun...but at the end of the day, I pick Kame because I'm a bigger fan of his (obviously).
karkar1
Personally i like Yamapi.
I just think he has that attractiveness to him when he acts . (maybe it's just the character roles he is given, but still its HAWT)
I think Kame would be second to me . He is pretty good at acting, but i don't find him as popular... I kinda think its bias since i saw him in Nobuta wo Produce with Yamapi and Maki so i just like him. I thought he was pretty kewt in that . But Yamapi definitely on my list is like WAY WAY HAWT and king of all ! LOL! :] <3 `
Jun i think its ohkay ... I kind of dont like his attitude at times. Like that image he displays is not my taste .
Just my opinion . LOL But he seems popular with most girls. .. ?~
angelazangel
i'll go with kame too, i luv him the most out of all 3, he's so talented & so cute! =D

jun i really like too, i think he's a better actor than kame, but since he's been acting much longer, it's understandable...but i don't like his singing though...

yamapi's ok i guess...don't really find anythin' special about him...i don't hate him, but i find him really over-rated, i mean, he's not that gr8 an actor n not really that good looking either...no offense yamapi fans, just my opinion.
elenishi
i like both Kame and Yamapi...
personally i think Kame is quite talented as an actor~
For Yamapi, his dancing is superb~
i really think the both of them are so cute!
so i cant choose between them xD
as for jun, i think he is okay overall... find him quite normal...not the type i like...
but his acting in HYD not bad...
misheru-to
Aahs, overall, I think that I might have to choose Kame.

I would love to vote for Jun really, and in terms of acting, Jun IS the winner for me. His acting is just AMAZING, I love it so much, and all his dramas and movies turn out to be splendid hits because of him. Hana Yori Dango, you gotta love that. ♥ But if you're talking about overall, then I would say Kame. I'm not always fond of Jun's singing (although he puts so much effort into it, I can't NOT love it, it always touches me. <3) Kame's singing is beautiful, and I love his acting in say.. Nobuta wo Produce or One Pound Gospel, they were so fun to watch.

(:
hanna sj
1 voting for yamapi here. no special reason, juz cudn't forget the character he acted in nobuta wo produce (akira kon kon). then bout the dancing, i think it's superb n also the voice too. but then wait, i saw some comments saying that he desn't hav the looks. r u sure, saw him in "daite senorita" vids, cute+handsome lol thumbsup.gif
blazephyr
hmm... i say all three guys are okay. but i think that in terms of acting jun is the winner
as for singing kame is the best and dancing i think the three of them are all the same. as for in looks jun is really handsome but im not head-over-heels for him. as for kame he is quite beautiful but too beautiful for me and yamapi he's cute and adorable looking smile.gif so my vote goes for jun
La_Monita
In singing it's Yamapi - adorable voice! <3
In acting it's Jun without a doubt
In dramas... i can't choose here, hehe. i love almost all Kame's dramas, as well as Jun's.. haven'ts seen that much of Yamapi though
overall, Jun is the winner for me: he acts cute, looks adorable and i love his voice. but i love Kame and Yamapi too infatuated.gif wub.gif
eriza-chan
what I'm about to say will be kinda biased...
=_=

I dislike Yamapi, so he's out... lol...
no... kidding..
Yamapi would be... wait... i don't know =_= ugh...

anyway...
Jun in acting! (hot but.. singing voice ain't rlly... you know tongue.gif but good at acting)
Kame in singing (some of his dramas didn't really became popular but his singing is great!!)

ugh... yamapi...
erm... would win with the...
dramas... Esp. Nobuta Wo Produce..
I have to admit, his performance in that drama is really good *ahem*
haha
billa-tong
For me Kame is really the best in these 3 boys.
Jun ... is ... boring! Seriously I find this guy so boring. He acts the most of time in the same way. His voice ins't amazing, he doesn't sing wrong but I don't especially like it. And Arashi ... Hum well... That's not my favorite band.
Yamapi is really a good singer and dancer. But .. in dramas ... he's not the best acotr ever. His roles are always the same : the good guy sometimes funny or sometimes cold. It's never amazing it's good but ... usual.
And the best for the end : KAME. He's my favorite J-Actor and J-singer from the beginning. I saw in all his dramas ... and he was really awesome. He can play every characters perfectly.
It can be in THNK, 1PNF, NWP, Yuuki, Gokusen, Kindachi ..., everything suits him well.
I love his voice, KAT-TUN too, his solo are awesome too.
Well, he is perfect for me. More than all of it ... he looks so good ! What a hot man tongue.gif
yamapikawai
QUOTE (angelazangel @ Jun 10 2009 9 32 AM) *
i'll go with kame too, i luv him the most out of all 3, he's so talented & so cute! =D

jun i really like too, i think he's a better actor than kame, but since he's been acting much longer, it's understandable...but i don't like his singing though...

yamapi's ok i guess...don't really find anythin' special about him...i don't hate him, but i find him really over-rated, i mean, he's not that gr8 an actor n not really that good looking either...no offense yamapi fans, just my opinion.


aaaah angelazangel.
i made this account JUST to able to respond to your comment, but IN RESPONSE to your comment, i did take offence as to when you said you didn't think yamapi was overrated 'cos if anything hes underrated.
have you seen his acting in Proposal Daisakusen and Kurosagi? It blew my mind, considering Kame and Jun didn't do half as well in their shows, like NWP and HYD. I find HYD very overrated. i just can't give it as much credit as the critics of J-drama becuase i found Jun was horribly expressionless and Kame's acting put me to sleep.
I do respect your opinion and i dont think you're purposely taking the piss out of yamapi, because then im sure a whole lot of girls would join me in
destroying you.
Kame is too skinny, his face is disproportional and his acting really does drag, but then again its just my opinion. and im sure you wont take offence to it.
As for jun, his voice can wake the dead. i agree - it bites. his acting is very average, and people who consider HYD a work of art.. its quite regular, compared to the many intriguing shows that Yamapi starred in and completely SHONE in. it was just your average romance show, HYD, only with two erally good theme songs for both seasons, but still, kuroagi & prodai are much more ...well-produced, for that matter. kudos to the director/producer for those shows.
ARIGATOU GOZAYMAS clapping.gif that will be the end of MY lecture.
OnlyXainz
well i've watched all of them in weird movies/dramas and i'd probably prefer kame just because he doesn't have any weird mouth habits :D LOL juskiddin~

but he really fooled me in nobuta wo produce :x i think he has this ability to act older? XD totally freaked me out when i saw him on cartoon kat-tun and other talk shows :P

but anyway that really serious face he has makes me wanna stick him in a bad guy character D: he'd totally suit it
angelazangel
QUOTE (yamapikawai @ Jun 25 2009 8 01 AM) *
aaaah angelazangel.
i made this account JUST to able to respond to your comment, but IN RESPONSE to your comment, i did take offence as to when you said you didn't think yamapi was overrated 'cos if anything hes underrated.
have you seen his acting in Proposal Daisakusen and Kurosagi? It blew my mind, considering Kame and Jun didn't do half as well in their shows, like NWP and HYD. I find HYD very overrated. i just can't give it as much credit as the critics of J-drama becuase i found Jun was horribly expressionless and Kame's acting put me to sleep.
I do respect your opinion and i dont think you're purposely taking the piss out of yamapi, because then im sure a whole lot of girls would join me in
destroying you.
Kame is too skinny, his face is disproportional and his acting really does drag, but then again its just my opinion. and im sure you wont take offence to it.
As for jun, his voice can wake the dead. i agree - it bites. his acting is very average, and people who consider HYD a work of art.. its quite regular, compared to the many intriguing shows that Yamapi starred in and completely SHONE in. it was just your average romance show, HYD, only with two erally good theme songs for both seasons, but still, kuroagi & prodai are much more ...well-produced, for that matter. kudos to the director/producer for those shows.
ARIGATOU GOZAYMAS clapping.gif that will be the end of MY lecture.


well, i did say it was just my opinion...u think yamapi's better than how i thought about him? fine, that's how u feel, why should u even take some1 else's opinions seriously? n yes, i wasn't offended by ur comments about kame, afterall, it's just ur opinion, n i don't care about other ppl's opinions, so why should u?
to me, yamapi isn't very good, just very average n is definitely a worse actor than kame & jun! under-rated? hardly, many would agree he's way too over-rated! again, that's just my opinion, like how u were expressing ur own opinion.

n yes, i have seen alot of yamapi's dramas...n i still think he's average...i think he only got lucky he scored a more "favored" character in nobuta, n that gave him a big leeway...what about u? how many dramas have u seen of kame & jun's? or have u only seen very few of theirs? have u seen kame's 'yuuki'? or jun's recent 'smile' drama? or his recent drama sp for the 24hr tv? i doubt it...their roles in those dramas were very different n more in-depth...maybe u should watch those, it would give u a better picture of kame & jun's acting skills.
upon 1st glance, domyoji may seem as just a jerk, but his character is much deeper than that, n only jun would've been able to pull it off. expressionless? i think not, i really would like to see yamapi play that role...seriously, if he had played the role of domyoji, he probably would've done a much worse job. oh and yes, that's just my "opinion", but i'm sure many ppl would agree with me on that anyway =P

i don't understand why ur being so defensive over my opinions, when u clearly realize it's just my opinions...oh n mind u, alot of ppl would disagree w/ u about ur comments on kame & jun's acting abilities, i can assure u, only hardcore yamapi fans would feel that way about him.
at least there's many ppl who aren't even fans of either jun or kame can see their acting talents...only hardcore yamapi fans would think so highly of his average acting skills.

again, just my own "opinion"...u know, i just don't understand sum ppl...they get so defensive over sum opinion from others, then they voice their opinions n criticize another artist n then making a comment saying that ppl wouldn't be "offended" by it...well, yeah, i wouldn't be offended, it's just the opinion of others...i mean, i'm not offended by yamapikawai's criticisms of jun & kame, cuz afterall, it's just her opinions, so why should any yamapi fans be offended by whatever i said? besides, it's not like i was down-right bashing him or anythin'...but giving my honest opinion.
yamapikawai
QUOTE (angelazangel @ Jun 29 2009 8 52 AM) *
well, i did say it was just my opinion...u think yamapi's better than how i thought about him? fine, that's how u feel, why should u even take some1 else's opinions seriously? n yes, i wasn't offended by ur comments about kame, afterall, it's just ur opinion, n i don't care about other ppl's opinions, so why should u?
to me, yamapi isn't very good, just very average n is definitely a worse actor than kame & jun! under-rated? hardly, many would agree he's way too over-rated! again, that's just my opinion, like how u were expressing ur own opinion.

n yes, i have seen alot of yamapi's dramas...n i still think he's average...i think he only got lucky he scored a more "favored" character in nobuta, n that gave him a big leeway...what about u? how many dramas have u seen of kame & jun's? or have u only seen very few of theirs? have u seen kame's 'yuuki'? or jun's recent 'smile' drama? or his recent drama sp for the 24hr tv? i doubt it...their roles in those dramas were very different n more in-depth...maybe u should watch those, it would give u a better picture of kame & jun's acting skills.
upon 1st glance, domyoji may seem as just a jerk, but his character is much deeper than that, n only jun would've been able to pull it off. expressionless? i think not, i really would like to see yamapi play that role...seriously, if he had played the role of domyoji, he probably would've done a much worse job. oh and yes, that's just my "opinion", but i'm sure many ppl would agree with me on that anyway =P

i don't understand why ur being so defensive over my opinions, when u clearly realize it's just my opinions...oh n mind u, alot of ppl would disagree w/ u about ur comments on kame & jun's acting abilities, i can assure u, only hardcore yamapi fans would feel that way about him.
at least there's many ppl who aren't even fans of either jun or kame can see their acting talents...only hardcore yamapi fans would think so highly of his average acting skills.

again, just my own "opinion"...u know, i just don't understand sum ppl...they get so defensive over sum opinion from others, then they voice their opinions n criticize another artist n then making a comment saying that ppl wouldn't be "offended" by it...well, yeah, i wouldn't be offended, it's just the opinion of others...i mean, i'm not offended by yamapikawai's criticisms of jun & kame, cuz afterall, it's just her opinions, so why should any yamapi fans be offended by whatever i said? besides, it's not like i was down-right bashing him or anythin'...but giving my honest opinion.


yes, ofcourse im going to take everyones opinions seriously, why else was this forum made in the first place? to share and discuss each others opinions..
and im definately going to take offence when you say he's under rated, cos that translates to him not being liked by you and the majority of people that watch his shows, and you don't know that, so i suggest you stop pulling random made up statistics from out of the blue. your opinion isn't everyone elses, so i suggest you stop speaking on behalf of other fans, which i assure you, if given the opportunity to compare jun, kame and yamapi would with hesitation, go for yamapi, then again, i dont know that do i? so im not going to say its 100% factual. So as for being over or under rated, judging by the comments here and fans on facebook, i'd say yamapis won this battle. but then again, thats just our opinion (us being 20, 000 people) smile.gif

i doubt you've seen that many dramas starring yamapi, else you wouldnt be having this opinion that you so passionately insist on. lucky to get akira in nobuta?
you must be joking, yamapis talent is countless, he protrays so many different characters excellently, and completely fooled me as the tipsy akira in nobuta, i dont think hes lucky, i know producers needed someone with real talent to be able to pull that off, and really excel at it.

Meanwhile, kame ofcourse got the main part of the shuuji and to be frank that didnt need any talent or skill, which is probably why kame got the role. it takes real talent and major skill to change yourself and put yourself in the character of dopey akira, and thats why yamapi got it.. whoever calls that luck is trying to give an excuse as to why kame didnt get it.. it was 'luck' so yamapi got it and it gave him a leeway, no it wasnt luck. it was purely that yamapis better an actor, meaning kame got the knockout role as shuuji, be it hard to believe or not, i think japanese producers would know more than you. but.. you shouldnt take offence to that right?, im just stating what i feel should be stated, no?

and yes, as a matter of fact, i've seen both shows yuuki & smile! dont be too quick to underestimate me, and having seen them, it only just proves my point. why?
kames actions in yuuki were nothing of what they should have been! he's a very cold actor, and i repeat, his face is disproportionate (in my opinion) and he probably should get that checked before starring in drams like yuuki, who need passionate actors to really feel what its like to be yuuki, and therefore protray the character much better than kame has!
as for smile.. i admit, jun's acting was a notch better than kame's, goodness knows that. which is why smiles probably much more known and liked in japan. but i mean, jun's character is meant to be one who smiles through good and bad, and most of the time watching it i felt that he wasnt up to it, he didnt really feel it. had yamapi or maybe oguri shun taken that role, the drama wouldve have been a must watch. and as domyouji, i appreciated what jun was trying to do, but he couldnt fool me with his childish behavior, yamapi would have been able to show us what domyouji was really like.. in his own ways.. domyouji IS in fact a childish and short tempered man .. but jun didnt do it quite as i expected .. and yamapis standards (i believe) are hgher than his.. had yamapi received that role, it would have been harder for jun to live up to it and become a better Domyouji. and im fully supported when i say that, by many yamapi fans.

..so having seen those dramas, and the rest of their quite normal shows.. there really isnt any reason why theyre bombarded with fans here and there, and the shows i've seen of theirs only proved my point, and only made me believe their lack of talent even more.. but thats just the way i feel.. to each his own isnt it? everyone entitled to their own opinion... but what is it you're going on about.. only hardcore yamapi fans? be they hardcore or not, its quite clear how talented he is.. it doesnt take a fan to realise it.. one look at jun or kame would turn the majority of people off.. seeing yamapi though, in many of his characters and roles gives us an insight of what real talent is. and what real skill is. and that makes regular non fans in to obssessive hardcore fans, such as myself.. and there is no such thing as a regular yamapi fan.. all of them are hardcore.. why? because anyone who sees him would completely fall in loe with him and his skill. so all his fans are hardcore. find me any hardcore jun/ kame fans, if they do exist, theyr the minority of people who watch j-dramas. yet any yamapi fan would think that much of him, as expected of such a high standard entertainer.

as for the other two.. theres not much to say.. if you call yamapis skill average no ones going to let it slip because youre telling us not to take offence, as you slowly insult him .. stating youre opinion doesnt mean you had to cause such a riot. well between us your so called opinion was pretty hardcore, for a supporter of such unworthy actors.
even jun admitted himself that johnny-san only recruited him cos of his looks, and not of his talent. as his singing/acting really do bite. johnny himself knows that. and opinions dont get any better than him eh? hes the big guy, the mastermind isnt he? and even he can tell.

so yes, im only being defensive when i believe defense is necessary, im sorry, but if my opinion needs to be recognised this way, then this way it shall be, i tell you, there are probably so many other people reading this and taking one side, either mine or yours. but thats why this forum exists, had it not, i wouldnt have known your 'opinion' of yamapi right?
although your opinion was quite the insulting one, to me and probably yamapi, should he ever read this forum.


C♥KAT-TUN~Shun
Alright alright settle down, we don't want to start a fight in here do we?

We're all just voicing our opinions here, and everyone is entitled to their opinions after all. There's no reason to get agitated, or have any objections to one's opinions, they are still opinions after all, not facts. As long as you believe your idol is great, then that's what really is important smile.gif
dendyram
C♥旬:聖:亀: you pretty much said everything I was going to say! biggrin.gif
I've been an avid Jun fan too since his Gokusen days and his acting still amazes me. And though it's selfish, I wish he would come out with more dramas x]
I guess he's been busy recently....

And I think I saw what you were saying about Kame's postential in I think one of the last episodes of Gokusen 2, when he very emotionally confronted his parents (I don't quite remember about what)

As for YamaP, I think his acting leans more towards the comical and the cute, really worth squealing over. Perhaps he matured in Code Blue, I'm not sure since I haven't watched it.


I hope I didn't miss much in skipping over all the long replies....
loreal100
Oh it's a hard choice...I like both Jun and Kame, Jun without a doubt is a amazing actor, the best out of the 3! But Kame I still prefer in terms of personality & singing.

For me, it's both...really can't choose...
soso&so
Their all talented. But most of all I would have to choose who I would like to go out with and that is Kame. Jun seems more into himself than any other girl. Yampi seems insecure with girls. So I like Kame because he seem to show a girl a good time. Not sexually but attetion wise.
ST@R
I thought Jun's acting in Hana Yori Dango was good. It was like he kept getting better and better. But that's the only drama I've seen him in. As for singing, it's probably Kame though I think Yamapi is also talented at acting and okay at singing. I admire Yamapi more out of the 3. Maybe it's because I've seen more Yamapi dramas & they were all good biggrin.gif.
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