Hi everyone! Most Koreans really hate the Japanese, even up to this time...Are there Koreans here who are more open and do not find anything worng with the Japanese?

Please speak up, let your voices and opinions/stand be heard by your fellowmen.

As long as the current or future PM of Japan continues to vist the war shrine, some of the Koreans and Japanese would not get along...sad isn't it?

well my parents are chinese, and they don't really like coreans and japenese
i can't understand why ...
i'm french (living in france, lyon) and i like german people , i mean , why should chinese-coreans-japenese hate each other ? french and german people have good relationship ..

Mmmm... I wanna ask this myself.
I think it's better if the Koreans and the Japanese in this forum would answer this, don't you think? Hehehe! They know their countries better than we do, that's for sure.

well im partially jap so do i count but anywho...
i didnt even know dey hate each other XD

I see, this could be one reason for their bitterness against each other...Can you please tell us more about this, for the benefit of everyone?

Yes, it is sad indeed...Instead of working together, forgiving each other of past sins, many continue to promote and cultivate the culture of hate and vengeance...

I don't know why the quote option didn't work, but anyway, that reply was for RoyFang's post.

and for some unknown reasons, my post came in after the post that I wanted to correct/guide.

I'm not well versed in the intricacies of this forum, but I strongly suggest that options in replying be made easier...Kinda like when you click quote, your reply quotes, etc...



I hope this wouldn't be the case...After all, what would be the fruit or end result of this hatred? Nothing right? If not nothing, then bad things might happen between people from these two countries...

But on the other hand, if they would forgive each other and learn to love each other, who knows what great things these two great nations can accomplish, so much so if all nations and all people would unite, and live together in unity, peace, justice and love...

I don't know if I could still correct my posts, or if I can make it better, but graphically, my posts don't look good...I hope everyone can just follow through with my reply, I am doing it by sequence.;-)

these two nations should merge into one super nation. Talk about the hottest nation in the world that'd be ;D

There was a poll on a Korean website a couple of days ago asking if Japan was to sink under water (wtf? who comes up with that kind of poll) would/should Koreans help them? What's more amazing is that over 50% of participants said they wouldn't.
That's just sad.

I'm Chinese but I have a Korean friend who hates Japanese people a lot. The only thing he likes about the Japanese is the anime and music. But other than that, I think he hates them because of what they did in the past.

I'm a Filipino and I have a Korean Friend... We sometimes talk about Japanese people but she never mentioned that Koreans hate Japanese people... Maybe I'll ask her tomorrow in school... I didn't know about that thing... hehehe...

i dont think so...according to a person i kno, he hates japz LOL...but i hate japz!!! THEY KILL OUR CHINESE PPLS AND RAPED WOMEN lol out of topic so yea...dont think koreans liek japz at all

WAIT, REALLY? i thought it was Japanese people who hated Koreans

i'm not korean but i know that Viets hate Hmong people..dflkd but i do know many Viets that LOVE me XDDDD

AND hmm..i think it's unreasonable for Koreans to hate them..i mean it happened in the past..and YA KNOW..it's really the leaders of that time to decide..and the people from this day didn't have a voice for what happened back then

that sounded confusing but yea..hahaha

dont asians just hate each other in general?

Well, if you have witnessed what the Japanese had done to the Korean and Chinese during WWII then you will not forgive them. Didn't the Japanese like 5 or 6 years ago released some kidnaped Koreans. Those poor Koreans were kidnaped when they were teenagers and when they are released they are like in their late 60's. So, you tell me why Korean and Chinese should forgive the Japanese for what they done? Especially, Japanese government trying to white wash the horrible and cruel things they are done during the war.

just like all nations there's bad and good ppeople within.... i personally haven't got a problem with ppl's nationailty (often i can't tell to begin with anywy) as long as the individuals are nice then why should their nationality list them as good or bad, hatred or liked?

talking abou hating, shouldnt the chinese hate on the japanese for the killings for world war 2. no offense but its true

The older generation never forgot what the Japanese done in the past and i quite understand that what they did was unforgivable and yet they still deny of any wrong doing. This is what i believe upsets people nowadays. Didn't one survivor got awarded a sum of money in the courts revently? Not that this compensates for anything.

My take on the whole issue on why Koreans and Chinese still have animosity towards the Japanese because they have never apologized for all the horrible things that happened during the war. To this day, Japanese history textbooks make no mention of the horrendous "Rape of Nanking" incident in China (there were many others but this one is the most famous) or any of the hideous acts committed in both China and Korea (they made all the Koreans change their names to Japanese names). It's easier to forgive and forget if the opposing party has at least apologize for their wrong doings.

Then what's up with all the Japanese friends I have? Also, the Korean wave in Japan? Korea & Japan joint dramas and movies? Hmm...?

I've heard a lot of stories saying that Japanese people in Korea isn't a good thing. Like they're shunned away by their culture or are annoyed or something like that. Is that true? If so, why? (And I probably missed why due to a historical happening I may not be aware about.) And if that's true that's too bad. I would have loved to visit Korea...

^ Try watching this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbeKndXT7pE...player_embedded

No Koreans Allowed
http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/09/24/no-koreans-allowed/

I always thought it was Japan who doesn't welcome Koreans.

There have been no report of incidents where Japanese tourists were harassed or attacked not even disliked by Korean locals.

It seems, only Japanese right wing activists does this to Korean tourists.

I've went to Japan before and Japanese are very welcoming. The ones who don't welcome koreans are only minority. Japanese people in general don't give a flip about Koreans.

I think there exists groups in both ethnics that don't really welcome the other ethnic.

I can pull videos on anti-korean by japanese. You can get this by visiting any japanese nationalist website/youtube.

I can pull videos on anti-japanese by korean. You can get this by visiting any korean nationalist website/youtube.

There is too much enmity between them based on past and present conflicts so it's should not be really that surprising to anyone. But if you did want to visit korea, it should not deter you. You can always join a tour who will bring you to tourist friendly areas.

Go to youtube and type Anti-Korea or Anti-Korean, there are thousands of dodgy clips that depict Koreans in very low and most of them are uploaded by Japanese. I think most Japanese dislike Koreans than Koreans disliking Japanese.

But, I really don't care.

^A nationalist japanese posting clips depicting korean in bad light. A nationalist korean posting clips in bad light. There is no difference between them, whether it be quantity or quality. There is still enmity between these people.

We can pretend one side is better the other. But I would not be so naive.

The ultimate goal here is to present the fact that there are disputes between both ethnics but that should not deter the OP from visiting korea.

I know a few really bright Chinese people who fervently hate Japanese.

I like most Japanese and Koreans but I find some Koreans fu***** pissing me off. I want to punch them in the face, screw their balls and kick them in the stomach. I'm good friends with a lot but some.... my God you just want to kick their arrogant face in and then beat them into a bloody pulp for speaking Korean on purpose and being so snobby. Then some Japanese, you fu***** screwed my country, now I'm gonna get a baseball bat and kill you and your family.

well, there are more Japanese uploading at Youtube than Koreans.
besides, Koreans in Korea rarely visit Youtube, it's more overseas Koreans use it a lot.

Korean Internet is super fast, Youtube can't compete with local Korean online video sites.




That's the same feeling when I see some Chinese & Japanese.

so your point is that japanese are more nationalist when compared to koreans based on there being more youtube videos posted by japanese?

but yet, you state local koreans don't use youtube because local sites are quicker?? I don't get why you would put 2 statements together as the latter weakens the first.



Actually, japanese occasionally have a no foreigners sign. That's not really news to begin with.

But if you did read the japanprobe post, it highlights the nationalistic fight the OP is talking about.

1. Because Koreans don't normally use Youtube, you will find less Anti-Japanese dodgy clips up loaded by Koreans. However, Japanese's dodgy clips about Anti-Korean sentiment out number 20:1 or more.

2. Japan is backward society to allow such sign to stop foreigners

When were looking down about the history between two countries...they have already complex....I learned this through watching Korean historical drama....complex in cultural exchange (art, dance and musics) , trade and war...as we all know Japan in 19th century was leading in invasion in different countries, one of these is Philippines, Korea, China...Hm, Written down in history that Korea is under the rule of Japan ( treaty )...I think during under this treaty period they gone unpleasant experience...just like other country like Philippines...starting to have a lot comfort women job ( los angeles ) so as korea...

I don't think it's just korean people that don't like japanese....

i think it all traces back to the time of the wars and how the japanese did so many horrible things to another countries such as korea and china.

i don't think that's tto say that now in modern times, korean and japanese still dont get along....well at least in the us they do okay, maybe in korea and japan there's still a bitterness but i think a lot of people are trying to move past the bad memories.

but yeahh definitely i remember my chinese teacher telling me that pretty much everyone hated the japanese people....

I don't think this statement actually helps you overall. In fact, it should weaken your statements simply by making a speculative post.

It almost feels as though you are unconsciously validating the OP's point.



I'm not so naive to believe that Japan is the only country to do this.

Japanese hate koreans? wheres the link or article? i dont think this is true. Japanese are one of the friendliest kinds of people i know. when i went to Japan, they were all being friend to me when they fine out i was hong kong. i dont think they would 'hate' on any specific race. just because you see some Japanese hate on koreans doesnt mean its a Japanese thing to hate on koreans. thats like saying americans hate on coloured people because you see some americans hate on coloured people. man, trust me, the Japanese are cool.

wrong, no other countries do that now days.
South Africa done this before back in 1980s.

Only Japan still allows sign with 'No foreigners allowed'.

I seen a few youtube vids about japanese hating the koreans and the koreans hating the japanese. Just a small problem really, not everybody in South Korea and Japan think like that, just a small minority. But well this country hating that country for whatever reason is happening all over the world!

That is only if you discount what foreign educators and american GIs say about the No Foreigners allowed policy in korea.

The discrimination they describe includes sauna, swimming pools, bars, etc...

Well, Im not sure if other countries have no foreigners sign or not. But when it comes to the "no foreigners sign" in some japan establishments, well they obviously had some trouble before involving foreigners and the owners are fed up so they put up the signs. But the signs aren't there because the owners are racist. But I do understand that you mentioned the signs to say that japan is not as open minded to foreigners as other countries.

Boo! I've never experienced or have seen such signs like that, that's against to Korean law.
Only in Japan you will able to see such signs.

Oh. It's really not the first time I read about the "no foreigner allowed" in korea. The first time I read about it was when shops used no foreigner allowed signs after 2 american GIs crashed a car and killed 2 korean teens a few years ago.

More recently, this is reported by americans:

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/24/wo...g-korea-teach24 By John M. Glionna|February 24, 2009

"He knows teachers, he says, who are harassed for having Korean girlfriends. He's met only three black instructors in his time. And he's been denied service in Korean bars.

"I've been told to leave because I'm a foreigner," the 33-year-old Seattle native said."

As for adult entertainment:
Seoul Prostitutes Say No to Foreigners
"Prostitutes working in the so-called "Miari Texas" area, the biggest red light district in South Korea, will not accept foreigners, particularly foreign laborers, a group of pimps announced recently.
A total of nine placards banning foreign workers have been put up around Miari Texas, in Hawolgok-dong 88, Songbuk-Gu, a northern part of Seoul. The placards read "Foreigner Off-limit Place.""

So I don't think this behavior is isolated to japan.

These nothing do with 'putting up no foreigners allow signs'
Like in restaurants, bars, and public places like Clubs in Japan.

Japanese even shouting "go back to your country" at foreign tourists.

I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that Koreans are on bad terms with practically all other asians. Before I actually started listening to kpop, I was adamantely opposed to anything korean. I had just come across too many situations where they were full of themselves and wouldn't stop bragging. Idk if this is just a severe case of nationalism, but it is really annoying. So, I don't really think that it is just japanese that are anti-korean. Koreans just tend to bring it upon themselves.

You mean like the banner in the second article that says "Foreigners off limit place"? Comes with a picture of the banner as well. Granted it doesn't say "no foreigners allowed" to the word, I think the message is the same relatively the same.

Or the first one that blatantly states that service is refused to foreigners at a bar (much like the public places you list in your example)?

The backwards society you lament about remains the same. Denial of service remains the same. If they deny you service as in the first article or if they create a banner to deny you the service in the second article, it doesn't really make too much of a difference and i'm still not sure how you can view it that much different from a "sign" because the backward context you state is still there.

I don't think it's true~ Most of the korean firends I have, love learning Japanese and think japanese culture is cool.

You must be really desperate to bring "prostitutes refusing to service foreigners" , compare this to Japanese putting up signs saying 'No foreigners allowed" at public places and restaurants.

Have you ever visited Korea and Japan?

I don't see why people can't just get along! Also on youtube you can see videos of this racist group in japan that hates foreigners and especially koreans, theres one video where they stand next to the perimeter fence thats right next to the off loading point at the docks in japan and there happens to be koreans getting off and then the protestors tell the koreans to go back home is an abusive manner!

In the UK all of this would be illegal because racial abuse, incitement to racial hatred are all criminal offences.

But you once said that only Japan does this. It seems you now are creating inventing exceptions and clauses which shows how weak your original statement is to begin with.

You also disregard the other post about educators who are denied service in bars, which is a public place according to you. It doesn't say if it was with a sign but I'm sure the intent was no better. Backwards is what you called it.

According to this article, 40% of foreigners feel discrimination in korea. That is 40% of foreigners actually living in korea. An additional 30% said koreans had hostile attitudes towards foreigners. So, it's funny to completely disregard what all these people have to say since they aren't really lower tier workers but investors and professionals.

don't try to use survey from general perception as denial for Japanese racist attack on foreigners.
Only in Japan you would see so many signs with "No foreigners allow" and racial slurs shouting at tourists just arrived at Japan.

compare Korea vs Japan in terms of evidence just provided by me & you.
Japan is truly backward country when Japan opened their doors to foreigners more than 150 years. Korea? just 100 years ago and only South Korea is open, and it wasn't until late 1990s we started see large foreign arrivals in South Korea.

I need to give you more puzzled faces.

You will have to tell me how you link the survey to denial of Japanese attack on foreigners. I don't think that is what the survey says. In fact, I'm the first to bring up (specifically) no foreigners sign in japan so how can i deny this. Please think a bit.

You asked me if I went to Japan or korea but i thought a better answer would be what foreigners in korea think. I don't think you know how foreigners really feel about korea and judging from your responses, that would be true.



And once again, I already showed your original statement many posts ago to be not as concrete as it seems. I don't see anymore relevance to your insistence here.



Not everything said in this thread is "evidence".

my grandmother hates anything to do with japan.
she almost disowned me for eating sushi!!

Its sad that the new generation is blamed in either country for the past generations mistakes. We as the new generation in all the worlds nations need to respect and like eachother.