rumikochan
Feb 4 2005 1 44 AM
I voted for Ray & Li Qian in TOB. Ada in TCUC. Wong Hei in Net Deception.
Hope more ppl vote for Li Qian. Her character was my favorite of all the choices.
ShawnShawn
Feb 7 2005 6 50 AM
The books were much better..though kudos for TVB for fitting the whole story in merely 41 episodes
Suki37
Feb 7 2005 8 24 AM
QUOTE (Thu @ Feb 3 2005 2 47 PM)
Suki, huh??
I have been reading TOB2 ...my nick in comment section is "thu" (same as here)......what are you talking about??? *confused*
Nevermind, I even don't know what I was talking about!
*sighs* Tell you the truth Thu, I am quite upset nowadays. So depressd...
It seems that everywhere I go, Kau Chong & Yuk Chi and Raymond & Li Qian is so unpopular!!!
hi Suki,
Dont worry ...actually THERE ARE ALOT of Raymond & Li Qian supporters ....
Dont let what others say or different opinion from your depress you, cheer up =)
Just think, how much attention they are getting?? By end of year, everyone will know LiQian =) b/c of this series.....in any case, she has won many heart in viewers...(.including HK viewers as well. )..that is very truthful!
I saw SPI has been updated, let me go read it..hehe...
btw, I am working on her English website, hope you dont mind if you ask for your help with some translation when I need it..thanks in advance!!!
Suki37
Feb 8 2005 12 27 AM
QUOTE (Thu @ Feb 7 2005 2 44 PM)
hi Suki,
Dont worry ...actually THERE ARE ALOT of Raymond & Li Qian supporters ....
Dont let what others say or different opinion from your depress you, cheer up =)
Just think, how much attention they are getting?? By end of year, everyone will know LiQian =) b/c of this series.....in any case, she has won many heart in viewers...(.including HK viewers as well. )..that is very truthful!
Actually, I think this is because Ray-Li Qian fans are either living in China or just not as 'vocalized' about their support as most other Ray-insertchoiceofactresshere fan. I mean, most Ray-LiQian fans I know are Chinese.
I already volunteered myself at LQ's forum under your thread!

I wanna help anyway I can!
layzbaby
Feb 8 2005 8 49 AM
the 2 brothers are so HOT!!!.....and the girls are so CUTE too......too bad one died at the end
pennies8mybagel
Feb 12 2005 2 11 AM
i think raymond and yuk-zhi were a good paair, but i think ron and nancy should have been together...they looked cuter
Suki37
Feb 12 2005 2 43 AM
azn_gal25
Feb 12 2005 10 44 AM
i think raymond and li quan made a great couple!
and ron and leila is a cute couple!
dont reali like nancy with ron and tavia with raymond they do not match
well thats what i think
clumzii3monkie
Feb 12 2005 11 25 PM
QUOTE (Suki37 @ Feb 11 2005 9 43 PM)
tht was my fav part!!! it was like soo romantic!!.lol
well, i like tavia and ray best but li qian and ray are good together too. at first i was hoping for tav nd ray together but at the end i was pretty satisfied with li qian and ray. wat i'm really pissed about was how the movie ended!!...worst ending made me cry lol..well tht was really off topic sry!

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JuS_mEeH
Feb 13 2005 1 16 AM
They make cute couples!!! This series was pretty interesting but too bad I didn't get to finish it >.<
azn4ce
Feb 13 2005 9 26 AM
omggggggg y did he give in so ezly shud fight bak!!! wif their powers da armys r lyk nutin!!!! lyk omggggggg dey can wipe out tha whole kingdom by themselves since all tha strong ppl died!!!!
lamlisa
Feb 13 2005 9 46 AM
comparing the couples, i reli like Tavia Yeung and Raymond Lam more,. they really look so cute together, makes a nice couple, i like ron ng and nancy as well tho, and leila too.
Suki37
Feb 19 2005 6 31 AM
Hmmmm, it seems that our thread lost its' appeal to most fans. Oh well
Anyway, TOB2 has been updated. Ciao!
azn_gal25
Feb 20 2005 6 39 AM
QUOTE (GallantNite @ Jan 29 2005 2 17 PM)
Raymond Lam looks better with Tavia than the other girl. And also Tavia do look better!
i agree with thu look isnt everything!
as long as your personilty is good why care about looks?
i reckon li quan is WAY prettier then tavia!

the best couple in the show for me will be!
RAYMOND & LI QUAN
RON & LEILA!
they are the best couples in the show!
they all look so cute together!
rumikochan
Feb 20 2005 9 43 AM
I'm sure there are lots of ppl that was routing for Yuk Chi in tob with Kau Chong. The reason it seems that more for Tavia are bc I think the fans were not satisfied with the ending so they won't stop complaining and saying how great those 2 looks while for Yuk Chi side, we're happy that Kau Chong choose her, so most of us , usually don't put much comments about that. Just my opinion though.

Anyways, Yuk Chi and Kau Chong is da cutiest couple in TOB!
Suki37
Feb 20 2005 8 23 PM
Why is there so many competition between Kau Jong/Sau Ning and Kau Jong/Yuk Chi all of a sudden? He chose Yuk Chi, what is there possibly to argue about? Can't we just move on? Let's not get hostile, please! I mean, we can argue to death who Kau Jong should pick _______ but in the end, he chose Yuk Chi, end of discussion. You may not agree with his decision because you think ______. But what is there to fight about, especially over something that has been set and cannot be changed? Can't we all get along? I mean, we all love ToB right?
spring
Feb 20 2005 10 26 PM
QUOTE (Suki37 @ Feb 20 2005 2 23 PM)
Why is there so many competition between Kau Jong/Sau Ning and Kau Jong/Yuk Chi all of a sudden? He chose Yuk Chi, what is there possibly to argue about? Can't we just move on? Let's not get hostile, please! I mean, we can argue to death who Kau Jong should pick _______ but in the end, he chose Yuk Chi, end of discussion. You may not agree with his decision because you think ______. But what is there to fight about, especially over something that has been set and cannot be changed? Can't we all get along? I mean, we all love ToB right?

I agree. This series is over a long time ago!!! And still many of KJ/SN fans are not accepting the fact that KJ chose YUK CHI. Do they think that if they win the poll or get more suppoters they will change the reality???
keiai
Feb 21 2005 1 43 PM
LIQIANLIQIAN
Raymond raymond..
LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!4-everrrrrrrrrr
QUOTE (Suki37 @ Feb 18 2005 10 31 PM)
Hmmmm, it seems that our thread lost its' appeal to most fans. Oh well
Anyway, TOB2 has been updated. Ciao!
i'm still a strong supporter of kau chong and yuk chi and i always will be!
btw suki...i love your translation! keep it up, girl!
divang
Feb 22 2005 11 37 AM
TOB is one of my favorite movie.. i the parts where kau chong try to conquer cities, but the things i hate the most about this movie is that they know that they going to die and they still let the prince kill them... if that was me, i will kill the prince and try to become emperor...kaka...
u34ew
Feb 22 2005 2 16 PM
I did not really like Raymond's character, he was so stubborn and anoying. I think his romance with sau ling was good but the ending was a great big mess!!!
azn_gal25
Feb 22 2005 2 26 PM
QUOTE (keiai @ Feb 21 2005 8 43 PM)
LIQIANLIQIAN
Raymond raymond..
LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!LIQIAN RAYMOND!!!!!4-everrrrrrrrrr
YEA TOTALLY!!!!!!
jossie
Mar 2 2005 1 13 PM
I saw above that someone was unhappy about not enough support for Yuk Chi and Kau Chong... and I admit I was somewhat disheartened to see that there was a topic solely for Sau Ling and Kau Chong and not one for Yuk Chi and Kau Chong... but then I realised, the reason is that SL/KC fans need to express their support... because well, who was it that ended up together in the series, in the book... okay maybe not ENDED UP together, but who did KC love the best? We all know, we all saw the ending...
Don't get me wrong, but I think SL is a good person... and I feel sorry for her. But well I started going for a YC/KC match during the series.
There are millions of fans out there... those that rave about the series and the ending, are raving also for YC/KC...
QUOTE (jossie @ Mar 2 2005 8 13 AM)
I saw above that someone was unhappy about not enough support for Yuk Chi and Kau Chong... and I admit I was somewhat disheartened to see that there was a topic solely for Sau Ling and Kau Chong and not one for Yuk Chi and Kau Chong... but then I realised, the reason is that SL/KC fans need to express their support... because well, who was it that ended up together in the series, in the book... okay maybe not ENDED UP together, but who did KC love the best? We all know, we all saw the ending...
There are millions of fans out there... those that rave about the series and the ending, are raving also for YC/KC...
Yes!! I agree with you.
YC+KC are very content and happy about the ending (although it could have been better if KC did not have to die! )hehe
BTW, you're welcome to join our Raymond+Li Qian forums ==>
http://liqian.info/liqian/forums/index.php?a=forum&f=11
rumikochan
Mar 3 2005 2 57 AM
Hey Thu , thanks for the Li Qian forum link. I just visited. She look so cute in most of the pictures! hehe..I'm definitely joining!
kellyhuynh
Mar 3 2005 4 31 AM
QUOTE (spring @ Feb 20 2005 10 26 PM)
I agree. This series is over a long time ago!!! And still many of KJ/SN fans are not accepting the fact that KJ chose YUK CHI. Do they think that if they win the poll or get more suppoters they will change the reality???

hi people...im from sau ning and kau chong thread...and before you guys are throwing rotten tomatoes at me...just let me say that im not here to bash at this couple that you guys are in favor of...my first intention of coming in here was to see if there was any creation made for this couple...and i saw some pictures and banners of them...to tell the true...i kinda like them...very nice to whoever made them...but anyways...i didn't post this message to kiss asses...like i said before...my first intention was to see some creation of this couple, but i came across this post...the one i quoted above...well to clear this up...we...as in sauning&kauchong's fans...are not trying to compete with you yukchi&kauchong's fans...the reason there is a thread for SN/KC was because we (the fans) were really sad that they (SN/KC) didn't end up together in the serie...so mokagurl (the founder of SN/KC thread) created this thread so that we can share/post some of our creations of SN/KC to our fans to enjoy. this was our only intention, we are not trying to compete nor tried to change people's mind and root for SN/KC, afterall, each one of us is entitled to our own opinion right??? so those who are fans of YC/KC i totally respect that...really...not kissing asses here

anyways...i hope i didn't give you guys the expression that i was bashing in here...i just wanted to clear up the air that's all...hope you guys understand...
with sincere...have a nice day everyone...
jossie
Mar 3 2005 4 37 AM
thanks for that site... it's really cool! love the art gallery there!!!
I just watched and finished the serie not long ago. At the very beginning I wanted ray with leila becasue i watched the doctor serie before this where ray and leila were paired up. i thought they looked really cute together. however, from the theme song, it didn't take much to make me realize that leila is going to end up with ron. i was okay with that. then i wanted ray with tavia.
that definitely changed. i thought li qian was very annoying as a character when she first appeared. however, as the story progressed, i began to love her character. the lack of beauty li qian has compared to tavia she made up with her personality. however, the more i look at her, the more cuter she seems to get until i begin to think that she's the most beautiful actress in the serie.
as for tavia's character, she was awfully boring. i couldn't stand it when she's with ray. ray's character is humorous and charmistic, but he becomes dull and boring whenever he's with tavia.
i love every moment of ray and qian.
as for ron and leila, they were very, very, very, very boring. i don't even know if they have any interesting scenes becasue i fast-forwarded all of them! i do like nancy's character though, but i thought ron was too boring for her to love.
just contributing my two cents.
kellyhuynh
Mar 4 2005 12 59 AM
hi it's me again...well i was making some more screensavers of sauning and kauchong and then i decided to make one for yukchi and kauchong too. so this one is dedicated to all YK/KC's fans...i will try to post up the link to KC/YC screensaver soon as possible so you guys can download okie...
take care everone
rumikochan
Mar 4 2005 3 48 AM
Thanks Kelly!

Can't wait to see it!
BTW, those who are CRAZY KAU JONG + YUK CHI lover.......and are dying to have a TOB2 sequel .........I HIGHLY recommend that you read this Fan Fic
TOB2 : Unwavering Faith (Translated by Guin)
It's veryyyyyy good!!!
http://www.winglin.net/fanfic/TOB2/
kellyhuynh
Mar 4 2005 10 01 AM
hi...below is the link to dl YC/KC screensaver...i hope you guys will like it.
http://rapidshare.de/files/761447/yuk_chi_..._chong.exe.htmlinstruction on how to dl:
1. click on the above link
2. scroll down and click on "free" button if you don't want to pay
3. scroll down to the bottom to see the remaining minutes left before the link to the screensaver appears
4. when the link appears, click on it and it will download.
after the download:
after the computer finish downloaded the file, the installation of the screensaver box will appear, click on "install" button and it will automatically install to your pc/laptop.
enjoy and have a wonderful day everyone...
jossie
Mar 12 2005 5 30 AM
YAY another update for the TOB2: Unwavering Faith. This is by far the best chapter yet!!
Thanks kellyhuynh for putting up that nice screensaver - it is nice to see that there are nice Sau Ling and Kau Chong fans who aren't here just to diss Yuk Chi and Kau Chong.
dougleung
Mar 12 2005 1 57 PM
I would kau "Sau Ling" for sure if i were "Kau Chong"... don't understand why he would fall for "Yuk Chi"... such a little girl...
boom-boom
Mar 12 2005 10 40 PM
QUOTE (Suki37 @ Jan 23 2005 12 33 PM)
I blame this on the scriptwriters' part!
2.) Yuk Chi kinda annoyed me too, though I still love her. Like KC, I blame the failure of her character near the end as the scriptwriters' fault. I mean, ever since she became friends with KC, YC totally understood and trusted KC. So how come she didn't have enough faith in him at the end???
3.) Lastly, Sau Ling's character. I respect her. At the ending I didn't. Blame on the script. How is it possible for a married woman to be in the arms of another man just when his husband died not too long ago? Again, TVB lost their minds when writing the ending; as always!
completely trusting a friend is very different to completely trusting ur lover/potential lover. all rationality goes out the window when it comes to love doesn't it? all females develop insecurities whether justified or not. so i guess even tho it seems out of character for yuk chi, i can understand why it occurred.
and the point about sau ling's character - i'd hafta agree with u, it seems a bit improper for au ling to fall into another man's arms straight after her hubby died. but i guess it's to prove the point she never really loved her husband isn't it? like all along she's love Kau chong. besides, TVB has never been able to represent any historical stuff with accuracy anyways
LaMissy
Mar 13 2005 1 17 AM
QUOTE (boom-boom @ Mar 12 2005 11 40 PM)
and the point about sau ling's character - i'd hafta agree with u, it seems a bit improper for au ling to fall into another man's arms straight after her hubby died. but i guess it's to prove the point she never really loved her husband isn't it? like all along she's love Kau chong. besides, TVB has never been able to represent any historical stuff with accuracy anyways
Well well... I'm a KC/SN fan and I'm not here to bash or something... I just wanted to COMMENT on BoomBoom's post. I really don't agree with you (and some others) about that "Falling into the arms of another guy after ur hubby died"... She didn't do that because she wanted to steal Mr. KC NOOO!!! She was just very unhappy on that moment and what "normal" people would do is comforting that person, so thatz what KC did... it wasn't love or cheating, it was comforting an unhappy person (doh what would you do? Tell him/her to go to hell?) Would you guys be happier if KC pushed her away? Well that would be so cruel of you if you really think so!
And maybe she didn't love her husband, but she felt safe by him, he loved her for 100%. She wasn't sure about her position in KC's heart. Does KC love her with his whole heart? No, he realized that later on and what IF SN was with him and he found out that he loves YC? "SauNing I want to break up because I realize I like YC more" That would make ppl pity SN...
Attention: MY OPINION!!! And I'm not bashing because I didn't mention YC this YC that!
conmebol
Mar 13 2005 3 16 AM
I started liking Tavia's character at first and hating Li Qian's character, but as the story progresses, I like Li Qian's character more.
I really don't see the point for killing Raymond's character, unless it was historical or something.
LaMissy
Mar 14 2005 6 43 PM
kellyhuynh
Mar 14 2005 7 29 PM
hey lamissy those posters are so nice, where did you find it????
praiseur
Mar 16 2005 9 15 PM
QUOTE (justinx69 @ Mar 16 2005 12 46 AM)
it would be very hard to make TOB2 since KChong died already, I dont think I will make myself suffer by watching TOB2 if only Ron and Leila in there, they both couldnt carry the series by themselves.
it would be very hard to make TOB2 since KChong died already, I will make myself suffer by watching TOB2 if only Ron and Leila in there, they both couldnt carry the series by themselves.
That's true, if it's just Ron and Leila, I don't think I'll be interested in watching TOB2. I like them but I've to admit they were sorta boring to watch in TOB.
And plus the ending of TOB, it's hard to talk about part 2 unless a totally different storyline with all new character. But then, I'll miss Kau Chong and Yuk Chi. I think they're the reason why I'm hoping for TOB2..only if they're in it!! Maybe the script writer is brillant enough to put Kau chong character back in..lol...that would be interesting to see.
Not sure if I have posted this link here yet, but I really like and recommend this TOB2 Fanfic version.....we can always dream TVB will film this TOB2 Fanfic ...hihihihi
http://www.winglin.net/fanfic/TOB2/ {Unwavering Faith}
alicechen
Mar 17 2005 9 07 PM
QUOTE (Suki37 @ Jan 12 2005 2 08 PM)
I find it interesting that there is a thread for Kau Chong/Sau Ling and yet no thread for the two couples that ended up together / loved each other in the end of ToB.
Well since I can't talk about my favourite two couples in the other thread, I hope I won't get in trouble in starting this one! Admins...don't kill me...

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Anyway, I'm not here to bomb people who like Kau Chong with Sau Ling. In fact, I also like that pairing. It was just their destiny to not be together; what a corny statement! When they wanted to be together, their roles and responsbilities in life won't let them. And when they finally could be together, one of their hearts had already changed. But enough about them...
Kau Chong and Yuk Chi kept ToB okay for me. If it wasn't for them, I would have stopped ages ago. I love the way they kid and bicker around for 99.9999% of their scene times together. I love how Yuk Chi kept her love hidden from Kau Chong and helped him woo Sau Ling. I love how Yuk Chi would sacrifice everything so that Kau Chong is okay. I love how Kau Chong would rather go to war than hurt Yuk Chi. I love how Kau Chong would rather lie to Yuk Chi and keep his pain inside than to let her know that he was going to die. This relationship goes both ways, and that's why I love it so much. Their timing to fall for the other was perfect.
On first glance, Zhi Ling and Fei Huan may be boring. In face, I have heard a lot of fans say they want Zhi Ling and Wan Wan. LOLZ, acutally I like both pairings. In the beginning, I thought Zhi Ling was wasting his time. She was a virgin saint like figure and so she could never return his love even if she wanted to. However, I still loved their simple scenes together. Their many times of chat slowly accumulated into a relationship that depended on each other. You'd have to be patient to truly enjoy and see this relationship manifest. But they are truly sweet and romantic!

PS - Mya I hope you don't mind me using your wallpaper here...hehe!

Hey missy, I totally agreed with u . Maybe we should be friends or buddies. I love yuk chi and Kau chong together. They went through too much pain together and kau chong developed feelings for her and this i think is true love not Like kau chong and sau ling. he only likes her at first sight because she's pretty. Yuk chi and Kau chong have so much chemistry. and i also like the scenes when they're together. It's so romanctic and touching !!!!!!! so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
berries8
Mar 18 2005 10 47 PM
hey guys
count me in....I'm a supporter of Kau Zhong and Yuk Chi. Even though I saw TOB several months ago (in July), I'm still a fan.
Suki37
Mar 20 2005 9 13 AM
QUOTE
Hey missy, I totally agreed with u . Maybe we should be friends or buddies. I love yuk chi and Kau chong together. They went through too much pain together and kau chong developed feelings for her and this i think is true love not Like kau chong and sau ling. he only likes her at first sight because she's pretty. Yuk chi and Kau chong have so much chemistry. and i also like the scenes when they're together. It's so romanctic and touching !!!!!!! so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alicechen Hi. I'm not sure if you're referring to me since my name is not missy but anywho, I will just assume you're talking to me since you quoted my post! And sure, we could be buddies. (If you were referring to me of course, lolz) In fact I could talk about Yuk Chi and Kau Jong all day and all night. Even though it's been like last September since I've seen TOB, I am still such a big fan of KJ/YC that it can be scary at times.
LaMissyIt's not that we don't care about Zhi Ling and Fei Huan, but it can't really be helped if their fans don't come in.

I'm not really into them so I guess I couldn't help. But I thank you for trying to drag them back in. I hope others don't feel that we've intentionally neglected them. That is totally not the case.
jossie
Mar 21 2005 2 07 PM
hey guys... jus tto let you know... Suki has finally updated on her fic of TOB@ called "Unwavering Faith"
If you guys read you will NOT regret!!! It really is very good... and getting better by each new chapter...
http://www.winglin.net/fanfic/TOB2/Suki: I literally checked your fic at least 10 times during this whole week (while procrastinating) to see if you updated because I was just waiting waiting very very impatiently!!
Please update soon!
P.S. I am very glad that asianfanatics is NOT shutting down... I only just heard about it and hurriedly rushed here... lucky nothing had changed except the new format and features!
LaMissy
Mar 21 2005 6 27 PM
tanbfong
Mar 22 2005 4 01 AM
i like yuk zhi so much oh...she is so cute..hhehehe...and tt twin brother.haha....this drame very nice oh...all of u should see
j2tran
Mar 23 2005 5 59 AM
Kau Chong and Yu Chi was okay...I didn't raelly like the girl who played her, but I think it was good they ended up together even tho it was only for a little while
I would've been happier if he ended up with Tavia...but I guess TVB always surprises ppl
kellyhuynh
Mar 23 2005 6 09 AM
QUOTE (j2tran @ Mar 23 2005 5 59 AM)
Kau Chong and Yu Chi was okay...I didn't raelly like the girl who played her, but I think it was good they ended up together even tho it was only for a little while
I would've been happier if he ended up with Tavia...but I guess TVB always surprises ppl
hey j2tran...if you like kauchong with sauning i suggest you go to our dedicated thread for them. it called "Paring in TOB: sauning and kauchong" don't come in here and express you feeling for sauning and kauchong...im sure yukchi and kauchong's fans wouldn't like that and if the situation was reverse i don't think you would like yukchi and kauchong's fans coming over to sauning and kauchong's thread and express their feeling for their favorite couple rite? so come to our thread and leave your comment (s) in there...i hope to see you in sauning & kauchong's thread really soon...welcome...
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