Hello honeydaisy, welcome!!! Do share with us your thoughts about Steven ya.
Thanks, Strawberry!
Tamaya, thanks for posting up the pics. They're great! I especially like the one where he has a cheeky grin on. I think Disneyland brings out the kid in everyone!
tamaya
Feb 13 2009 3 33 PM
QUOTE (honeydaisy @ Feb 13 2009 12 57 AM)
Agree with Strawberry -- you are not a blabber mouth! I would say you are generous with your time! I really have to thank you for translating. I can't get enough of articles by/on Steven!
Nice also to see everyone posting on this thread. Really enjoy reading all of your thoughts. I'm a very new fan, so I don't know much about Steven's past work or personality, and it's really interesting to find out all these things about him and what makes him tick.
Looking forward to seeing more of all of your posts!
Welcome, honeydaisy, do wander around and make yourself right at home. To get to know Steven better, pls. check out this page where I've catalog all my translations on him.
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Steven's blog entry on his father reminded me of another piece he did on his dad in his latest book. When I first read it, it did not stand out among the more profound writings in the book. In fact, it reads like a page off any diary, simply and unpretentiously written straight from the heart, almost innocuous in its chatty style of writing. Then I read it for a second time, and this time around, it impressed me differently, but how? It struck me belatedly that this is an essay written by an adult son who is not afraid to publicly show his love for his dad and to publicly thank him. We, as children, often tend to take our parents for granted, much less pen an essay of our gratitude for them. The essay besides indicating that Steven's father makes good soup is also very telling of Steven's own personality. 1)He is a private person. 2)He is a contented homebody who enjoys sleeping. 3)He is a quiet person at home, not given to much small talks. 4)He is like father like son; both men of their words. 5)He is willing to spend time with his father; and appreciates those quiet moments together. 6)He makes simple moments special and meaningful. 7)He is a sentimental person and given to poetic contemplation. (just like the landgull essay)post 623
Pork Bones dried veggie soup 菜乾豬骨湯 Drinking the meat bones dried veggie soup that father made for me, I feel deeply moved. I remember one day when I woke up, father was busy fiddling with my broken hot water heater. Busy doing what? A few days ago, he had called up a repair company; it would send a repairman over around 1 to 3 pm.
I woke up at 10 am. Frankly, whenever a stranger comes over to my house, I always feel a bit uncomfortable and will stay in my bedroom. When the stranger leaves, only then will I come out of the room. It is not because I am an artiste, but rather it is a habit since young. But this time it was obviously not going to work. And so I told my father I am going to work out, will be back soon.
At the gym, whatever needed to be done, I did. Can’t over exercise now, right? Check the clock, there’s still time so I took a nap in the resting area. When I woke up it was only 12:30 pm. What to do? I had no other place to go to. So, wander around town or go home? I’d much rather go home.
When I got home, it was only about 1 pm. I thought to myself when the repairman arrived, I would just sleep in my elder sister’s bedroom. Anyway I like sleeping. But for now at least before he came, I could move freely in the living room to either watch tv, get on net or maybe chat with father. Actually I’m like my father, don’t say much; but once said, will always follow through! And so, without conversing much, we leisurely watched tv together.
Father sat properly on one side of the sofa. And me? Like a big, lazy worm, I sprawled on the other side of the sofa. And so there we were, watching tv; at times chuckling, at times quiet; at times wondering why the repairman still not here; and at times chatting about family members. As so, the time flew.
At that time, we were watching a Jackie Cheung movie. Suddenly I had this craving for watercress soup. So I asked father, “Can you make watercress soup for me tomorrow?” He smiled and said, “Right now, there’s not a whole lot of watercress for sale and most don’t look good anyway. If it’s good, I’ll buy some.. else dried veggie soup is good too.” Without hesitation, I said, “Fine, so long it’s veggie soup.”
When the doorbell rang, it was already 5:30 pm. He said because his previous water heater repair work was extensive, that’s why he was so late. I did not blame him; on the contrary, I wanted to thank him. Thank him for inadvertently creating this opportunity whereby both my father and I were accorded these leisure moments of warm companionship.
This essay, even as I wrote I was savoring another pork bones dried veggie soup. Thank you, father!
Book 圖文并謬 p118 translator: Tamaya
Please feel to add your comments on this essay.
tamaya
Feb 13 2009 4 33 PM
Steven has just updated his blog to wish his fans Happy Valentine's Day!
Title: Happy Valentine's Day!情人節快樂! 2009-02-13 20:32 Hi everybody! Happy Valentine's Day! I have no valentine's gift to present to you all, so offering a recent photo of myself that I thought was quite 'shuai'...............heehee
source:http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/stevenma_blog
Akazukin
Feb 13 2009 5 04 PM
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Don't know. Don't keep track of it. Second thoughts, I guess not, else I should have read about it in his fansites.
Thanks for posting the Next Award link. So eligible voters do vote for Steven.
Don't worry about it. I actually suspect the result is rigged since it resembles TVB's favourites of the year too much. But it never hurt to try our best to support our favourite artistes.
For those who don't have HK ID and want to vote, Chandra has posted the way of voting in Tavia's thread page 7. Go for it. It doesn't hurt to try.
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I see him as being very comfortable in his own skin and in his element. It's more like he does not wish to share with friends because 1)he is a very private person 2) generally, men do find it tougher to share than women, 3)since young Steven is used to solving his own problems and in making his own decisions, 4) being the only son in a family with 4 sisters and an ailing mother then, he took upon himself to be their protector and decision maker, being the chiu chow chauvinistic man that he is. In short, Steven is a man who is used to making tough and urgent decisions since young. It is ingrained in him to take care of his problems all by himself. His friends told him that an old soul actually resides in his deceptive youthful exterior appearance. I would say Steven is quite generous in sharing a piece of himself in his book and blog writings to his fans and readers.
Exactly what I thought too. I couldn't have said it better myself.
And thanks tamaya for the great pics of Steven and Stevia in Disneyland. They are like big kids in those photo, which is good because people usually feel happiest when they feel kiddy. I just realised that Tavia took the elephant ride with Steven. I wonder if she was scared during the elephant ride like the ride she took during HOG filming with Bosco. At that time, she was clutching onto Bosco's thigh because she is too scared. I wonder whether Steven became her victim this time. Probably not since elephant ride is not as scary as roller coaster. But then again, her hand holding on the side stick makes me suspicious. I wish there are more photos taken like when they were on the air during their ride.
Steven keeps doing his victory sign is so cute.
And Valentines Day to everyone! I didn't realise tomorrow is the day, so soon. Well, not like I'm celebrating it anyway. But Steven's present is definitely very consoling. At least we have something nice to look at. Here is a tissue for everyone so your drool won't be all over this thread.
I remember he did a Valentines Day clip with Tavia before, cooking together. Not doing it this year? They should actually, since SITS just finished airing and they are filming SOL.
yoyo365
Feb 13 2009 5 05 PM
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 13 2009 10 33 AM)
Steven has just updated his blog to wish his fans Happy Valentine's Day!
Title: Happy Valentine's Day!情人節快樂! 2009-02-13 20:32 Hi everybody! Happy Valentine's Day! I have no valentine's gift to present to you all, so offering a recent photo of myself that I thought was quite 'shuai'...............heehee
tamaya, thanks for posting those pictures, so cute! Looks like he's having a ton of fun at Disney. Does anyone know when it airs?
Along the same lines, thanks for translating articles, etc for those of us that are Chinese character challenged (lol, at least I understand Cantonese, I don't know what I would do if I couldn't understand what he was saying). Oh, and thanks for posting his friends from industry, interesting to see the people he considers his close friend (mature...speaks on his maturity and shows a lot about his personality as well). Any clues as to if he's seeing anyone? (Curiosity killed the cat...)
So, I'm on ep 10 of SG, and I swear I've seen up to a certain point in this series (weird huh since I don't think I know what happens at the end). However, I love him in this, the yelling Steven...the private Steven...my oh my. BUT, I dearly wished they had chosen another leading actress. Seriously, I'm ready to poke out my eyes if I have to hear Elaine sob (not convincingly either) again...I thought Gigi when she cries grates...haha, nope I think Elaine takes the cake. Please tell me that the parents start treating Zhi better...it's horrible and I feel so bad for him, but his loyalty is totally endearing!
Akazukin
Feb 13 2009 5 16 PM
After reading Steven's essay on his relationship with his father, I find that he is a very rare man. And somehow I feel enlightened and cheered up that such man still exist in this world. When most people today are convoluted with the glamour of this world, enjoying only the things labelled and marketed for enjoyment, appreciating only the obvious things sold/said to impress people, claiming that people who prefer to stay at home is out of fashion, it's heartwarming to see someone of Steven's appearance, capability, status, and occupation still know how to appreciate the most of enjoyment of staying at home and being close to family, having the most simple yet the most heartwarming conversation with his father. I thought such men are extinct. Thanks to him that he has lighted some hope in me.
tamaya
Feb 13 2009 5 45 PM
QUOTE (yoyo365 @ Feb 13 2009 11 05 AM)
tamaya, thanks for posting those pictures, so cute! Looks like he's having a ton of fun at Disney. Does anyone know when it airs?
..... Oh, and thanks for posting his friends from industry, interesting to see the people he considers his close friend (mature...speaks on his maturity and shows a lot about his personality as well). Any clues as to if he's seeing anyone? (Curiosity killed the cat...)
In one of his radio interviews, Steven says of all the younger generation fadan, the only person he can really communicate with is Tavia. Also, he has some difficulty communicating with the younger generation actors too, because they are so into video games and anime, which they talk about all the time. So he tends to gravitate toward the veterans more.
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/LzzJMlKkxh0/ First time I knew him mentioning having a gf is from this live radio interview. Steven laughing spontaneously throughout the whole interview.
..................... C: In AJCL you’re a marathon runner. You’re also a long distance runner in your career. What about love, also a long distance runner? S: Well, there’s no point doing short, even though it can be exhilarating. C: Long distance, meaning the path to the church is quite long, right? A long run before entering the church? S: When two people have reached a certain stage in their relationship, whereby their separate existence have merged into one, and that person has become part of you, only then can these two live together—to me this is the stage when marriage can be considered.
C: So what stage are you in now? Do you feel a separate existence, a half-half existence, or one-third existence? S: I guess it’s half-half C: Her half and your half? Merged into one? S: I especially value the spiritual connection in a relationship. My job is unfair to her because of my schedules; very hectic. Plus I have too many interests. Would you stand by me and help me in accomplishing my aspirations? Conversely, would I cooperate with you to achieve yours? The person you love, you cherish; can you support her to accomplish her dreams, I think this is so important….
C: You’re so serious, I don’t know how you date.. talking about aspirations. S: I talk this way too with my friends. C: Can’t imagine you speaking of love…your aspirations, my aspirations. S: That’s what I talk about mostly. I’ll ask you how’s your business, how’s your work? C: You’ve just learned how to be forthcoming with your feelings, you should say, “I love you!” S: That can't be said too casually. But now I’ll remember to send flowers. Before didn’t remember.. C: So did you send any on last Valentine’s Day? S: Yes! ............................ C: So that means that you’ll tell your girlfriend your feelings, that is, if you’re interested in someone right now.
S: Maybe not when we're dating…will not especially say it, will go with the flow. If she knows she knows; if she doesn’t, she doesn’t.
C: For sure, will not especially bring it up…just go with the flow S Yeah, will not especially bring it up…go with the flow C: So both can tell. S: I guess when it reaches a certain stage and time, the person who doesn’t know yet will sooner or later catch on.
C: Of course. You’re being obvious here. Mai Chun Wai. (haha!)
A throwaway OT from the same interview: S: Ah Yi treats me like a relative. But she feels that I’m a good boyfriend…in the series.
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S: Both times Fala acted as my sister. Maybe next time when she acts as my gf. C: You have a lot of (younger) sisters. Fala, Linda, Yumiko. Why did you collect so many?
S: I didn’t collect them. They all said I’m like a big brother. Those younger ones even said I’m like a father.
C: Who? So young? C: How about Yeung Yi? (Tavia) S: Ah Yi treats me like a relative. But she feels that I’m a good boyfriend…in the series. C: In the series… You are very caring to your female co-stars. S: Well, my attitude is that I’ll cherish every one of my co-stars. Because….well who knows when we will collaborate again, if ever. Also, my outlook on life has changed somewhat.
......... S:I felt…one day while chatting with Kara Hui, 惠英红 (3rd daughter-in-law in Safeguards) when she suddenly told me, “Ngo sek ni.” (I love you) I was taken aback. What? She said whenever she has the opportunity she will tell people (people she likes, of course) that she cherishes them. And it got me thinking - true, when we still have the opportunity we should express our concern or love for other people. When I can thank people, I’ll thank them.
C: You were thankful too in the past, only inwardly, but now you will express it outwardly.
S: Right. Now, I’m not shy to express it anymore. I will speak out. Like I’ll thank you for your glass of lemonade.
C: Won’t you scare people off? I’m real scared of this…so abruptly.. when there’s no need for such politeness…and then suddenly…very scary.
S: Well, it won’t be so abrupt. It’s like, “Wei, thank you! ng goi sai” I’ll say them to people - to show appreciation lo
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 13 2009 11 16 AM)
After reading Steven's essay on his relationship with his father, I find that he is a very rare man. And somehow I feel enlightened and cheered up that such man still exist in this world. When most people today are convoluted with the glamour of this world, enjoying only the things labelled and marketed for enjoyment, appreciating only the obvious things sold/said to impress people, claiming that people who prefer to stay at home is out of fashion, it's heartwarming to see someone of Steven's appearance, capability, status, and occupation still know how to appreciate the most of enjoyment of staying at home and being close to family, having the most simple yet the most heartwarming conversation with his father. I thought such men are extinct. Thanks to him that he has lighted some hope in me.
I don't know how I could have overlooked this essay in the first place.
Akazukin
Feb 13 2009 5 59 PM
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S: Ah Yi treats me like a relative. But she feels that I’m a good boyfriend…in the series.
LOL. This is so funny. But it's kinda true that everytime Stevia pairs up, he is always a good boyfriend to her, in LOW, SITS, and SOL most probably is too. Any recording up for download?
Well, even though it's hard to date an artiste, I think it won't be that bad for his girlfriend since he is aware of that fact so he probably will be sensitive to her feelings too. Sometimes, men feel embarrassed to say "I love you" but girls often like to hear it, so if he really feels it, he should say it. Once one is used to saying it, he won't feel as embarrassed. He should get himself used to it
I never knew Tavia is so mature (ehehehe...) that she is the only young fadan he can communicate with since she often looks like an energetic kid when she plays around. Anyway, yeah, I also find a lot of interests of people these days are quite hard to relate to. I prefer talking about life more than technology and lucrative social network. So I'm glad to see the rare gem in Steven.
By the way, tamaya, do you know any good Stevia fanfic?
tamaya
Feb 13 2009 6 45 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 13 2009 11 59 AM)
LOL. This is so funny. But it's kinda true that everytime Stevia pairs up, he is always a good boyfriend to her, in LOW, SITS, and SOL most probably is too. Any recording up for download?
By the way, tamaya, do you know any good Stevia fanfic?
I'm having difficulty downloading it since it uses rayfile. So haven't heard the whole song yet. Maybe someone who has the complete song successfully downloaded can upload it onto megaupload. Thanks!
Exclusive mag scan from steven-ma.org Article rehashes past news on Sol, so not going to translate. Says Stevia's modern love relationship is especially designed for Stevia fans. Keeping fingers crossed for a Stevia happy ending.
p/s For those who want to read the article, it is typed out word by word in steven baidu. reposted from:http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=540546930
edited: sol especially designed for stevia fans, not
Akazukin
Feb 14 2009 4 53 PM
tamaya, it was pleasant to listen to the interview, and yeah, loved the laughters in the interview. I actually quite like Cha Siu Yan's interview. She asked interesting thing and know when to be more pushy and when to be not.
Do you have the clip available for download though (instead of streamload) and do you still have the interview where Steven said Tavia is the only young generation actress that he can communicate too?
And thanks for the link to download SITS full version. I haven't finished downloading it yet. But if you have Opera internet browser, you can download it by pasting the address of the mp3 to the quick download.
And that pic of Steven posing as a horse got me laughing so hard. It is so funny, he is being so cute.
Thanks also for the news and magazine scan of SOL. But if I read correctly (from the chinese you put under spoiler tag), it didn't say that SOL is to 'compensate' Stevia's last 2 tragic ending, but merely said that SOL is especially designed for Stevia's fans right? Or is there another sentence that said about it going to compensate Stevia's last 2 tragic ending? Anyway, I certainly hope that SOL will have a perfect happy ending for Stevia.
tamaya
Feb 14 2009 5 02 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 14 2009 10 53 AM)
Thanks also for the news and magazine scan of SOL. But if I read correctly (from the chinese you put under spoiler tag), it didn't say that SOL is to 'compensate' Stevia's last 2 tragic ending, but merely said that SOL is especially designed for Stevia's fans right? Or is there another sentence that said about it going to compensate Stevia's last 2 tragic ending? Anyway, I certainly hope that SOL will have a perfect happy ending for Stevia.
I guess I'm being too presumptuous when I took 'especially designed' to imply 'compensation' for the two series. Will edit.
IIrc, there is indeed a download where Steven said Tavia is only young fandan he can communicate. Let me search.
Akazukin
Feb 14 2009 5 08 PM
I have uploaded the SITS themesong full version (posted by tamaya) to sendspace: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1640yt (Sorry, I don't know how to upload it to megaupload. Tamaya, I hope you can download from sendspace)
It is a radio version and it's not very clear. Someone is also talking in the introduction and the ending. I really hope there is a clear version like SG.
tamaya
Feb 14 2009 5 25 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 14 2009 11 08 AM)
I have uploaded the SITS themesong full version (posted by tamaya) to sendspace: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1640yt (Sorry, I don't know how to upload it to megaupload. Tamaya, I hope you can download from sendspace)
It is a radio version and it's not very clear. Someone is also talking in the introduction and the ending. I really hope there is a clear version like SG.
Thank you! Yes, I can download from sendspace. Listening to it right now. Very nice!
I remember wrongly; Tavia being the only young fadan he can communicate is actually from a print interview not radio. Here it is post 567
“I didn’t know that expecting a person to be punctual or to have his/her script memorized is considered a crime. What a joke! I don’t blame that magazine. Someone got to have leaked the info to the media for it to be reported. I’m not a Mr. Happy, bend on ingratiating myself on people. My way of doing things will definitely put pressure on some people. But I can only say sorry; I’ll continue to be this way. If can’t be friends, so be it.”
Actually, Steven does have friends in the entertainment circle. Among his bosom friends are: Wayne Lai, 蔣志光 、 李國麟 、 駱應鈞 , and more recently, Kent Cheng. (note:more names of his tvb friends.)
“A lot of people said I act older than my age,” he smiled wryly. “But really, I do find it hard to communicate with the younger generation artistes. They always gathered together to either play video games or discuss anime. I dread engaging in such trivial conversations. Tavia is the only actress in the younger generation that I can really talk to. She, too, has that fire inside her.”
You might enjoy listening to this 商台:小欣姐公审马浚伟5宗罪!马仔,你认不认? Remember when he was accused of 5 crimes and for being a male ah jie? Here is his interview with 小欣姐. Another good interview. Laughter throughout too. Transcript in post 532
Transcript: H: Were you filming AJCL when you were accused of these crimes? S: No. It’s for this recent series, The Salt Traders. H: So who collaborated with you? S: Oh, Yeung Yi is a very nice person. (laughter) Ah Yi co-starred with me…
tamaya
Feb 14 2009 11 37 PM
Happy Valentine's Day! Bearing gifts here:
strawberry, have you watched this video? one of my favorite steven youtube videos: TVB Extravaganza
There is a jauntiness to his manner and carriage. And he looks smashing in that outfit, even that hat looks good on him. lol! And I love his a cappella rendition of Luo San - WTLB I love how he takes control of his performance with utter confidence, switching so effortlessly from Cantonese to Mandarin. Although nobody beats Frances Yip, Steven did a darn good rendition of Shang hai tang.
created by webmaster Hu @steven-ma.org Feb 20th will celebrate Steven-ma.org 1st anniversary. It's 1764 members welcome all guests to drop by or to join our fansite. http://www.steven-ma.org/bbs/
Akazukin
Feb 15 2009 6 12 AM
Thank you tamaya for finding the article. Do you still have the chinese version?
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You might enjoy listening to this 商台:小欣姐公审马浚伟5宗罪!马仔,你认不认? Remember when he was accused of 5 crimes and for being a male ah jie? Here is his interview with 小欣姐. Another good interview. Laughter throughout too. Transcript in post 532
Transcript: H: Were you filming AJCL when you were accused of these crimes? S: No. It’s for this recent series, The Salt Traders. H: So who collaborated with you? S: Oh, Yeung Yi is a very nice person. (laughter) Ah Yi co-starred with me…
You are right! I really enjoy listening to this one, maybe even more than the previous one. And he has more laughters in this one too. I really like how Steven sounded in the interview, no pretense. He disclosed things he is willing to and does not mind to not hide that he is not willing to disclose some. And of course, like Cha Siu Yan usually is, she won't push him too much when he wants to keep some facts private.
It's so funny about what he said his behaviour is during driving.
And yeah, so kind of him to praise Tavia. He is scared that people will misunderstand that the person who he complained as being late/playing around is her. But I just wished Cha Siu Yan let him finish that unfinished sentence about Tavia. I want to know what he was going to say.
Thanks also for the pics. I don't know if it's just me but he looks sympathetically pitiful in his pics as Chi Yat Bo.
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 6 40 AM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 15 2009 12 12 AM)
Thank you tamaya for finding the article. Do you still have the chinese version?
You are right! I really enjoy listening to this one, maybe even more than the previous one. And he has more laughters in this one too. I really like how Steven sounded in the interview, no pretense. He disclosed things he is willing to and does not mind to not hide that he is not willing to disclose some. And of course, like Cha Siu Yan usually is, she won't push him too much when he wants to keep some facts private.
It's so funny about what he said his behaviour is during driving.
And yeah, so kind of him to praise Tavia. He is scared that people will misunderstand that the person who he complained as being late/playing around is her. But I just wished Cha Siu Yan let him finish that unfinished sentence about Tavia. I want to know what he was going to say.
Thanks also for the pics. I don't know if it's just me but he looks sympathetically pitiful in his pics as Chi Yat Bo.
Please note that I always include the original post links to the excerpts, unless there was an oversight on my part. For the said article, the original source should be included in post 567 忽然一周 鬼馬狂想曲 馬浚偉 (Fantasia) Ma Chun Wai. Issue 665
Me too, I wish he was not interrupted when he talking about Tavia.
What do you mean, "he looks sympathetically pitiful"? Actually, I wish Steven will get a chance to act a cool, suave, smart, and well-dressed hyde and jekyll character, someone like Hui Man Piao (Sunny Chan's character in at the threshold of an era.)
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 4 01 PM
Just found another old Steven's radio interview [2008-07-22 港台访问]煲剧家族:马浚伟] talk about his series, (WTLB, Safeguards, Sits, AJCL, Dogs) his characters, his latest book, and his singing.
Strawberry: Go listen. I must have missed it when it was first posted on steven-ma.org.
Please note that I always include the original post links to the excerpts, unless there was an oversight on my part. For the said article, the original source should be included in post 567 忽然一周 鬼馬狂想曲 馬浚偉 (Fantasia) Ma Chun Wai. Issue 665
Sorry, it was an oversight at my part. I missed the baidu link when I read it the first time.
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What do you mean, "he looks sympathetically pitiful"?
For the lack of my english vocabulary, I mean he looks so 可憐, not in a bad way of course but like he is a good man who has been robbed of something he deserved.
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Actually, I wish Steven will get a chance to act a cool, suave, smart, and well-dressed hyde and jekyll character, someone like Hui Man Piao (Sunny Chan's character in at the threshold of an era.)
I think Steven is rather cool, suave, smart and well-dressed in Steps. Didn't Sunny turn evil in ATE? But besides villain role, I want to see Steven acting in a modern version of Seung Ji (preferrably with Tavia because why does everytime he pairs up with Tavia, he has to be so pitiful? There needs to be something new for a change).
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 4 41 PM
Listening to his interview right now. Steven didn't know he could 'fight' until Sits. He, sounding very pleased with himself, unabashedly said his martial arts instructor and stuntman simply loved him to death. That he learned and did every move they taught him very swiftly and correctly.
In the interview, Steven says that Sheung Chi was a very difficult character to portray because he is such a perfect character. That the success of his performance in Safeguards was more due to this character garnering audience's sympathy and to his co-stars' brilliant acting rather than through his own acting. Sometimes I find Steven too overly self-effacing over his own acting talents.
There is a plausible reason why Sunny turns bad. But his love for Kenix never changed. I didn't enjoy the ATTOAE 2 as much after Sunny died. I didn't take to Louis and Ada's relationship. I actually found it draggy. And in part 2, Gallen's character was not as interesting nor was the script .
Steps is more of a light romance comedy. I want an epic drama, well not necessary an epic, but an intense drama whereby he is the main antagonist. yeah, I would like a modern day Sheung Chi with Tavia.
Akazukin: In case you didn't know, Steven, under the psuedonym of 二牛, wrote the lyrics for AJCL. 《金石良緣》主題曲《小故事》:
Actually, I don't really like big overhype epic dramas, like ATE, GF (Yes, even though it includes a lot of my favourite casts like Jessica, Tavia, etc), DOL, GOL, etc. Usually, the cast is too crowded and the plot is too dramatic. I remember the scene where Sunny proposed to Kenix is very touching though. It's too bad that things have to turn that way. The sequel is a bit pushover with Louis trying to revenge and what's with twin that only appears conveniently after her twin died?
Well, even though Sunny turned bad in the end. I never really hate him in that series. I actually prefers his character than Gallen, who did a lot of mistakes without realising it I think. But if Steven is to act as a villain role, I want to see him act evil all the way because that will be another total turn from the characters he has acted in the past. Of course, a plausible reason behind his evilness is good too, and being loyal to love is definitely gonna be a sympathetic point. But I really really want to see him being extremely evil if he is to have a villain role.
I also want Steven in a lawyer series where he is the main lawyer, not really just a lawyer in a series like BOL, but a series where he gets to investigate (smartly and suavely) the cases and presenting and winning them gloriously.
Overall, I actually prefer series of 20-episode length because it is usually better-plotted and is not draggy. And I prefer family series which I can rewatch again and again rather than long epic drama.
Steven did very well in his fighting scenes in SITS. Haha... maybe he really should have been born in that era. He would be those martial art genius who can learn moves very quickly.
I didn't know he wrote lyrics too. But talking about lyrics, unlike the popular views, I actually don't like the second verse of SITS themesong that much, most probably because I expect more. I prefer the subtleness of the first verse better, because it can be interpreted to many circumstances more than the second one.
I agree with him that Seung Ji, being very perfect, is a difficult character to portray. Because portraying a perfect character has high risk of making it very fake. But I disagree that people love his performance is due to the character than his acting though. Surely, characters are important, but it is the way he portrayed it that won the heart of many. I mean, perfect character can be very bland (my personal example is Gallen in GF), but his Seung Ji is definitely someone very interesting to watch. There is just a real feeling in his perfection that makes people think he is so WOW rather than just a perfect angel that only exist in dramas, which is why I said he is a very special 'angel' in TVB drama. And surely, his chemistry with the other supporting actors like Kwok Fung, Wayne Lai, etc contributed to people's enjoyment of the series, but that doesn't mean he should strip credit from himself. Perfect character... not new in TVB... not rare in TVB ... but Seung Ji is one of the few that won my heart.
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 5 05 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 15 2009 10 47 AM)
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Actually, I don't really like big overhype epic dramas, like ATE, GF (Yes, even though it includes a lot of my favourite casts like Jessica, Tavia, etc), DOL, GOL, etc. Usually, the cast is too crowded and the plot is too dramatic. I remember the scene where Sunny proposed to Kenix is very touching though. It's too bad that things have to turn that way. The sequel is a bit pushover with Louis trying to revenge and what's with twin that only appears conveniently after her twin died?
Well, even though Sunny turned bad in the end. I never really hate him in that series. I actually prefers his character than Gallen, who did a lot of mistakes without realising it I think. But if Steven is to act as a villain role, I want to see him act evil all the way because that will be another total turn from the characters he has acted in the past. Of course, a plausible reason behind his evilness is good too, and being loyal to love is definitely gonna be a sympathetic point. But I really really want to see him being extremely evil if he is to have a villain role.
I also want Steven in a lawyer series where he is the main lawyer, not really just a lawyer in a series like BOL, but a series where he gets to investigate (smartly and suavely) the cases and presenting and winning them gloriously.
Overall, I actually prefer series of 20-episode length because it is usually better-plotted and is not draggy. And I prefer family series which I can rewatch again and again rather than long epic drama.
Epic as in WTBL and OTTOO, my 2 favorite series. Till now, Chao Ji WTBL remains Steven's favorite character. "threshold 2' I watched it forwarded. I was rather disappointed with it.
Like you, I also prefer Sunny's character to Gallen's. And I thought Sunny looks so cool and suave. Agree to this" "I want to see him act evil all the way" Steven said the same too.
Would like him to be investigative lawyer, police detective, (all suave and smart) or like the x-files
Like I say, Steven is too overly self-effacing, always playing down his own talents.
eta: About GF, I didn't even finished it because Gallen's character and the script did nothing for me.
strawberry67
Feb 15 2009 5 07 PM
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 14 2009 6 25 PM)
You might enjoy listening to this 商台:小欣姐公审马浚伟5宗罪!马仔,你认不认? Remember when he was accused of 5 crimes and for being a male ah jie? Here is his interview with 小欣姐. Another good interview. Laughter throughout too. Transcript in post 532
Thanks for posting this. I love the way Steven answered the questions. He's such a professional artist. Being puntucal is a way to show that you respect your job and colleagues. I don't think he's teaching the director what to do but is sharing. I am sure a lot of other artists do that too.
strawberry, have you watched this video? one of my favorite steven youtube videos: TVB Extravaganza
Yes, i saw this in you tube. He looks georgous in the black outfit and he sang so well. He could speak very well in mandarin too. What a talented guy!
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 5 10 PM
Hi, strawberry67. Did you get a chance to listen the radio interview newly posted in post# 965?
Akazukin
Feb 15 2009 5 10 PM
Listening to his interview now...
I thought he said Nip Ji Yuen is his favourite character to date in his recent blog??
I don't really understand what he means by saying "SG makes him realised that he does not know how to act"??????
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 5 27 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 15 2009 11 10 AM)
Listening to his interview now...
I thought he said Nip Ji Yuen is his favourite character to date in his recent blog??
I don't really understand what he means by saying "SG makes him realised that he does not know how to act"??????
In his blog, he wrote one of his favorite characters, and I've translated as such in this thread. eta: I think besides being favorite, Chao Ji is also very sentimental to him and also had much more screentime. But Ji Yuen is right up there with it.
Not SG, but AJCL, because Kent Cheng's acting and his dedication to acting makes him realized just how much he still needs to learn from veterans like Kent. How much depth and breadth to acting. esp. through the eyes and subtle gestures.
from his blog: 謝謝肥老闆 2007-09-08 21:28 Thank you, fat boss!
In his blog, he wrote one of his favorite characters, and I've translated as such in this thread.
Not SG, but AJCL, because Kent Cheng's acting and his dedication to acting makes him realized just how much he still needs to learn from veterans like Kent. How much depth and breadth to acting. esp. through the eyes and subtle gestures.
tamaya, I'm referring to this interview you just posted. He said that "SG makes him realised he cannot act" and AJCL is where he started to learn acting.
I agree with what the interviewer said about his look is a good person look. But I think, when a person has a good person look, it will be especially interesting to see him tackle an evil role.
Well, I hope Steven will get a Best Actor award soon.
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 5 40 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 15 2009 11 31 AM)
tamaya, I'm referring to this interview you just posted. He said that "SG makes him realised he cannot act" and AJCL is where he started to learn acting.
I agree with what the interviewer said about his look is a good person look. But I think, when a person has a good person look, it will be especially interesting to see him tackle an evil role.
Well, I hope Steven will get a Best Actor award soon.
Did he say that? Must have remember wrongly then. He's just being his effacing self again - like just acting himself, so no need for real acting skill? (shrug!)
Akazukin
Feb 15 2009 5 41 PM
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I think besides being favorite, Chao Ji is also very sentimental to him and also had much more screentime. But Ji Yuen is right up there with it.
I think he is very sentimental to most of the characters he acted as. But perhaps, it's because Chao Ji is the first role he has to invest so much into the inner feelings of the character (as compared to modern series or other not-so-tragic series).
Script-wise, I think SG is actually better than SITS. Maybe WTLB is even better. SITS still has flaws where at some part, you would go "huh?", not to say SG did not because I found the part where he burnt his expedition's tea leaves to scare off the five bandits as "huh?" but its "huh?" is more ignorable than SITS' "huh?"... haha... if that makes sense.
strawberry67
Feb 15 2009 5 48 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 15 2009 6 31 PM)
Well, I hope Steven will get a Best Actor award soon.
I also hope Steven will get that award soon coz he truly deserves it. I like him in AJCL, a good brother and and good husband. There are a few good scenes in that series that is hard to forget. The scene that he taught Linda (holding her hand) to make the tomb after her best friend died of overdose, the baby delivery scene and also the scene after his sister's death, he was talking and crying with his mum at the rooftop garden, very very touching.
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 6 01 PM
166期《电视剧》马浚伟滴水藏海 sep 2007 post 403 Cao Zhi, Sheung Zhi -favorite characters.
Hidden Text:
TV: On a website, there was this question, “What is your favorite Steven’s character role?” Among the top were: “Where the Legend Begins”, followed by “Better Halves”. What about yourself?
S: Actually, Cao Zhi is one of my favorite characters. That was the first time I realized that my moods could be so intensely affected by a character role. Cao Zhi is a tragic figure. I was depressed everyday I did the shooting, because every person close to me tormented me. My brother even betrayed me. Ah, it was depressing, because the script was so tragic, but I was truly into it. The other is Shang Zhi in Safe Guards. I like that character, too.
TV: Did it occur to you that it would become a hit?
S: When we did the filming, we all felt that it was a good script, but it was a small production. We all guessed that such a small production would not stir up much interest. But it did become a hit. It’s all due to its good script. Also, the whole cast including Wayne, Guo Feng, Hui Yin Hong, they all brought their characters alive. However, if the script wasn’t there, then there’s nothing. Even if the actors were gods, but the script is bad and has no excitement, then no matter how they (actors) strive to overcome it, their efforts wouldn’t do much. Conversely, if the script is good, and the actors did their job, the result would be respectable. However, if the script is good and the actors put in exceptional efforts, then the outcome would be all that much better. But good scripts are hard to come by.
Villain, should go evil all the way
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TV: You’ve been in many shows, most of them as protagonist. But in the past, many TVB male leads have acted as antagonists leaving deep impression to the viewers. Have you thought about taking the role of an antagonist?
S: In the past, I’ve requested the company to cast me as a villain. But..there are different types of villains. Some people seem to be born evil. (smile) This kind is pointless. I’m willing to perform the role of a person with a story. There must be reasons behind his turning evil, unless he’s psychotic. Actually, I would like to take the role of a psychotic killer, or something similar; like he would randomly kill anybody he sees, but when he sees a child, he will stop. The kind of character that will arouse people’s curiosity over his motives. Actually, it is always been this way: even the most evil person has his/her good side, likewise, a good person has his/her dark side. Anyway, I hope I will have the opportunity to take up different roles.
Today’s viewers have become smarter. They know how to separate a character in a series from its actor in real life. Like Susanna Kwan from the recent “The Heart of Greed”- she was outstanding and is now very popular. But she is a villain in that series. Did the viewers hate her - no, because that is only acting. If your portrayal of a villain is not evil enough, then that is not good. If your villain is evil to the core, then you don’t have to worry, let down your guards and go all the way. With the same token, there are also different types of protagonist.
Most memorable relationship
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TV: Which of the relationship in all your series left the deepest impression in you?
S: It’s still “Where the Legend Begins” – Cao Zhi and Yan Fu’s relationship. Ada’s portrayal was simply brilliant! In the story, their kind of star-crossed love of two people loving each other but can’t, obstructed as it is by society, family and tradition. Their relationship is halted, but still they love each other. Their hearts, transcending space, are intertwined. There’s a distance between them, but they are connected in spirit. This is very tragic, very tragic but also very moving. And also very real. Actually in our present societies, there still exists such love.
TV: Is it because of its imperfect, tragic love that makes it so memorable to you?
S: Right. People are like that. The more helpless, the more people will savor the “helplessness’. In fact, sometimes when love comes too easily, it loses its appeal. This is what people called, ““犯贱” fan jian” (laugh uproariously) Wants to have a good cry, to experience the heartbreak. When everything comes too easily, something is missing. People will only know pain when fallen, so that next time they will be more careful. If a person has never experienced it or fallen, he/she will regret it when he/she grows old. Life shouldn’t be too perfect.
Actually, if push comes to shove, I like AJCL better than Sits. Steven & Kent's pairing was superb. Reminiscent of his with Wayne's. And these scenes are among my favorites too: "The scene that he taught Linda (holding her hand) to make the tomb after her best friend died of overdose, the baby delivery scene and also the scene after his sister's death, he was talking and crying with his mum at the rooftop garden, very very touching." and him kissing the baby's image scene and too many to recount.
tvbauntie
Feb 15 2009 6 06 PM
tamaya - visit http://jessie1314.blogspot.com/ Thanks to jessie, I managed to download SITS themesong - not very clear but I'm happy enough.....love the song. Hope a clearer version comes out later. Jessie translated Tavia's message......Looks like there may be a happy Stevia ending.....
I'm off to read the above posts....
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 6 09 PM
QUOTE (tvbauntie @ Feb 15 2009 12 06 PM)
tamaya - visit http://jessie1314.blogspot.com/ Thanks to jessie, I managed to download SITS themesong - not very clear but I'm happy enough.....love the song. Hope a clearer version comes out later. Jessie translated Tavia's message......Looks like there may be a happy Stevia ending.....
Thanks tvbauntie, Akazukin, bless her heart, has already downloaded that song onto sendspace for us. And I've already listen to it.
strawberry67
Feb 15 2009 6 10 PM
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 15 2009 6 10 PM)
Hi, strawberry67. Did you get a chance to listen the radio interview newly posted in post# 965?
Finally, i managed to listen to the whole interview. I think what he meant by dont know how to act (at that time) was when he realised after working together with Kent Cheng he can push himself deeper or go beyond what he used to do.
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 6 14 PM
QUOTE (strawberry67 @ Feb 15 2009 12 10 PM)
Finally, i managed to listen to the whole interview. I think what he meant by dont know how to act (at that time) was when he realised after working together with Kent Cheng he can push himself deeper or go beyond what he used to do.
Yes, I listened to it again, I think that's what he meant. That his acting in SG was child's play compared to Kent's seasoned acting skill. He should stop putting his acting skill down, mgmt might just believe him. I think this humility reflects his very Chinese, conservative personality; so unlike the 'me best' society nowadays.
Akazukin
Feb 15 2009 6 23 PM
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"The scene that he taught Linda (holding her hand) to make the tomb after her best friend died of overdose, the baby delivery scene and also the scene after his sister's death, he was talking and crying with his mum at the rooftop garden, very very touching." and him kissing the baby's image scene and too many to recount.
Script is also very important when it comes to give potential for the actors to carry a memorable scene. SITS spent too much time on the supporting characters that the main characters didn't have much memorable scenes and this is applicable to Tavia's and Raymond's scenes too.
AJCL and WTLB sound like a really good storyline and script, too bad I still can't get over my appalledness to the two leading actresses.
Talking about script, I think BH is a very good one. It's a truly brilliant comedy. The best romantic comedy I have seen from TVB and it remains my favourite series until now. That series has minimum flaw in my eyes.
I just realised that all my original DVD collection is either Tavia's or Steven's series with the one exception of WAB.
tamaya, I agree with what Steven said about most memorable relationship is those when you have gone through the most painful experiences in between, love but cannot love but continue to love. About Nip Ji Yuen as his favourite role, I just realised I read the translation by jse which said it is his most favourite role, but I have gone through his original post which actually said that he "loves the character very very much". Anyway, I just realised that this article 166期《电视剧》马浚伟滴水藏海 sep 2007 is written before the filming of SITS too (SITS starts around Dec 2007 right?).
I find the relationship in WTLB resembles SITS and LOW in a sense that he loves but cannot love because she marries someone else but he continues to love. But of course, LOW has too little screentime (I'm still mad at the inhumane editing of cutting out their burial scene during the kidnapping whenever I think about it), and SITS' ending is happier than that of WTLB. But I'd rather prefer happy ending even if sad ending gives this lingering feelings.
As for my favourite character of him, it has to remain to be Seung Chi. I just can't resist such a perfect fine man who has his inner vulnerable, sensitive side shown to us but then again concealed by his strength over it. Someone with less capable acting may fail to show the inner torment of Seung Chi's feelings which is covered by his mentally strong external appearance, and the character could have fallen bland. It's okay if he is a less romantic than the other characters, but he remains the best husband material still.
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Yes, I listened to it again, I think that's what he meant. That his acting in SG was child's play compared to Kent's seasoned acting skill. He should stop putting his acting skill down, mgmt might just believe him. I think this humility reflects his very Chinese, conservative personality; so unlike the 'me best' society nowadays.
True. That reminds me of my personality who always said "not really" when someone praised me. Traditional chinese way of responding. But your comments about management might believe him cracked me up. But unless someone is so biased against him, I don't think he/she will ever believes in his "incapability" of acting. His acting power is too obvious. I think majority will agree.
tamaya
Feb 15 2009 7 11 PM
I wonder at his role in LOW. I knew that Kevin was offered this role first. But I wonder if Ms. Lok actually did this because she wanted to exercise and gloat over her political clout over Steven's benefactor, Zhan jie, and so deliberately assigned her favorite 'general' to a such a uncomfortable situation as to be the 2nd lead to Moses and to collaborate with Sonijia. Must be hard on Steven to be put in that position.
I like Seung Chi too but I thought that hairpiece made Steven look terrible.
source: KA reposted from steven's warm house fansite
Akazukin
Feb 16 2009 7 35 AM
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I like Seung Chi too but I thought that hairpiece made Steven look terrible.
You mean his unshaved head? It doesn't bother me much. He still looks good IMO. Still much better than his *ahem* curly hair....
I don't know how the arrangement comes to place in LOW. But yeah, when I first heard the casting, I was complaining about Steven having to be the second lead while the first lead is Moses since it was the other way round just few years ago in BH, WTLB and PITNOL. I really really like Cheung Sung Man, but this character doesn't have much room to show off acting skill. Screentime is as scarce as oasis in desert and there isn't anything especially outstanding about the character. I cannot imagine how Kevin would fare doing this character. The character is already not much to look at, (no offense to Kevin's fans) but with Kevin Cheng's unsuitable modern look and his lack of deep emotion in his acting, the character could have been a sinking ship. Actually, I think Stevia part saved the entire series (for me). I find Sonija's and Moses' part really boring and draggy. And what's with Moses? I thought he is a good actor but his performance in LOW is horrible IMO.
An interesting thing is out of Steps, LOW, SG, BH, my sister actually has the deepest impression of him in LOW. I guess different people have different taste, and that screentime does not always determine the depth of an impression.
I still wonder why he is willing to take the role in LOW. Despite it being a grand budget production, it doesn't offer much promise or potential. Did Kevin reject it because of some schedule conflict? Some actors are really choosy when it comes to roles, is Steven one?
honeydaisy
Feb 16 2009 8 36 AM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 16 2009 2 35 PM)
You mean his unshaved head? It doesn't bother me much. He still looks good IMO. Still much better than his *ahem* curly hair....
Do you mean his hair is naturally curly? Btw, I'm liking how his hair is looking for the current shoot (Stars of Love, is it?). It suits him, and he could really pass off as being in his late-20s.
Akazukin, thank you so much for uploading the SITS theme song! I love it. Except they "popped" it up a bit in the 2nd half -- I wish they hadn't done that. It doesn't sound as emotional when sung like that.
Tamaya, love the interviews. Can't understand Cantonese to save my life (boo hoo! ) but I can pick up a little bit here & there. It's fun just to hear the interaction between the interviewer and Steven though.
You guys really know how to make my day.
Akazukin
Feb 16 2009 9 03 AM
You're welcome, honeydaisy. Yeah, the background music is not classic enough and is not punchy enough, but then again, it could have been the quality of the file. I hope we get to hear the high quality version and hopefully it sounds much better.
No, Steven's hair is not naturally curly. I'm referring to his hairstyle in his new series with Linda Dogs in the Beat. Actually, it's his first time curling his hair for that series. And I wonder whether he ever regretted listening to the director of that series to curl his hair rather than dying it blond like he initially suggested (according to what he said in that interview).
I wonder whether Stevia are going to duet for the SOL themesong again. I actually hope they would let Stevia sing the themesong and Steven sings the subtheme. But since my wish of Steven singing SOL themesong while Stevia singing the SOL subtheme didn't come true, I better not have my expectation high.
tamaya
Feb 16 2009 3 13 PM
QUOTE (honeydaisy @ Feb 16 2009 2 36 AM)
Tamaya, love the interviews. Can't understand Cantonese to save my life (boo hoo! ) but I can pick up a little bit here & there. It's fun just to hear the interaction between the interviewer and Steven though.
You guys really know how to make my day.
honeydaisy: The 1st two interviews have English transcripts. post 507 and post 532
Steven fans have the 1st two interviews transcribed in Chinese, therefore, making my translation on them all that much easier.
You can make my day by joining in the discussion.
What do you think of Steven's pov on this post 499: (discussion open to everybody)
Stupid people vs Lazy people S: But a person’s stupidity, it’s tricky to decide whether he’s naturally stupid, or that I’ve yet to see his strength(s). Even if he’s an idiot, I still believe he has his own strength(s). It may be from one's perspective, one can’t see them yet, therefore, he's labeled as stupid.
Hidden Text:
A: There’re all kinds of people in this world. Different people have different personalities. Everybody has his or her own principles and beliefs; if you were to choose between stupid people vs. lazy people, whom do you have the least tolerance for?
S: Actually can’t use “tolerate” on stupidity. Nobody wants to be stupid. Also, how to define stupidity, moreover, nobody can predefine it.
A: Compare to yourself S: But you can’t do that. You think he’s stupid, that his strengths can’t compare to yours, but actually that’s because you haven't see his strengths as yet.
A: True. But if you can’t see them, then you don’t know them. And if you don’t know them, you don’t see him as competent. Like from what I can see or from working together, he doesn’t fit in.
S: There’s a Chinese saying 知人善用: use people according to their abilities. Actually, no one has the right to label a person stupid. You've only one option, which is, if you place him in a situation where he can excel and where his abilities can be fully utilized; then you are the smarter person.
A: True. But there’s no need for that; I know I’m more capable than him. But the problem is, you don’t get to know everybody for like 10 years. The chance may be once, or thrice or whatever, but all this time, he’s not competent at all. In your mind, this person just doesn’t cut it.
S: I’d think, is it because he’s being lazy? It’s easy to define laziness. Like maybe he needs to deliver something faraway, so suddenly he has a stomach ache. Can’t go. Ok. Fine. It is also fairly easy to determine laziness. But a person’s stupidity, it’s tricky to decide whether he’s naturally stupid, or that I’ve yet to see his strength(s). Even if he’s an idiot, I still believe he has his own strength(s). It may be from one's perspective, one can’t see them yet, therefore, he's labeled as stupid.
A: Yes. There's this group of people. Like he may be good in sports, but in my workplace, sports are unrelated to my work therefore not appreciated, right?
S: Exactly. How can he be considered a stupid person? He's capable, and is an outstanding athlete.
A: But I couldn’t see them (strengths). I’m only stating an example. Of course, I think athletes are intelligent. So, people, please don’t take my words out of context, that I said athletes are incompetents.
S: Of course not.
A: Say for instance at work, you've occasional collaboration with some people, maybe once or twice, always brief. The impression is that some people are indeed brighter than others, sharper, right? Would you tolerate the person who’s dumber? What I mean is, from your perspective and workwise, he's just slow. From day 1, you’ve told him that the costumes had to be yellow from top to bottom, but he continually brought you an orange one everyday.
S: That’s why, Anna, I’ll resolve this problem in my own way, or maybe will look at it from a different perspective. Like surely this person is very slow in this area. But this labeling of him only pertains to this area because he may have strengths that I’m unaware yet. For instance, like as an acting partner, he just doesn’t get it no matter what, maybe his acting skill is weak, but who knows his editing skills maybe excellent. Right? Why do people change? Because they have gotten to know their own weaknesses and strengths by and by. And so, they change jobs for ones that are better fitted to their own abilities. They learn to conceal their weaknesses and to use their strengths to further their career.
A: True. As you say, everybody has his/her own strengths. But as a girlfriend, would you choose a stupid or a lazy person?
S: In this case, I would choose a stupid one because I can’t stand laziness. You have to force lazy people to do work.
A: Wow! You have such a low tolerance for lazy people? But your acceptance of stupid people is high and you’ve a lot to say about them. For myself, I don’t think lazy people are born lazy, it may be due to their moods at that time.
S: Many lazy people are smart. Smart people know how to slack off.
A: If I were to find a life partner, I’d rather have neither, but if I were to choose between these two, I would choose a lazy person because at least he understands what I’m saying.
S: If you’re talking about a life partner; then frankly, if I truly love her, even if she were a pig, I would still love her, much less her being lazy or stupid.
note: I think Steven is much more sympathetic to stupid people because he was a volunteer in a youth center before.
Make-Up and Ideal Girlfriend
Hidden Text:
A: You know if it’s a life partner, and he’s dense....and women are indeed sometimes hard to figure out. What comes out of their mouth may not be what’s in their heart. If he’s clueless or if he’s not observant enough… that would be tough on a woman. But for slackers, at least he can understand but just won’t do it. He won't do it today or even tomorrow, or the day after, but love might make him do it one day. Just he doing it for one day will make you very happy. I understand that these two have their own pros and cons. But if you were to pick, which….
S: My response to what you say about some women being stupid; some are truly stupid, but some only pretended to be stupid….they are the smart ones…wanting to make us men happy. You say some women are lazy, yeah, in certain areas, they are lazy. Except in one particular area, which is when they’re putting on their make-up, usually causing them to be half hour or an hour late. If they are lazy in this area, I would welcome it. Better yet if they slack off plastering those 8 layers of stuff on themselves. Or…. anyway, why paint your face so heavily? It’s just a casual outing…just out for dinner. Light make-up will do for casual appearances. I don’t know if most women are like that, but those I know are never lazy in this aspect, very diligent indeed.. even applying it layer by layer, can’t even get done within an hour. Maybe if they can slack off in this area, they’d look even cuter?
A: Is it because you can’t stand her heavy make-up or that you can’t stand her tardiness?
S: Firstly, I dislike tardiness. Secondly, I wonder: Is heavy make-up necessary? If I really like you, whether you have make-up or not, I’ll still like you. If I only like you with your make-up on, then does that mean I can never see you without make-up? Then that means you must always put on make-up first thing in the morning, if not, then wear a mask?
A: You exaggerate. S: That’s why it’s (make-up) not necessary. To me, every female, regardless of her looks, has a beautiful side to her. Maybe it’s her cheerfulness, maybe her decency, or maybe her vivacity, or her optimism... Maybe she looks good when cooking... whatever, she’ll have a beautiful side.
A: But she feels the prettiest when make-up. If she feels that way, why can’t you accept it?
S: It’s not that I can't accept it, it’s only what I feel, what I hope; like in the case of wanting to look thin, I don’t think it’s necessary. In fact, when on the streets, I notice many women without make-up on and in casual outfits, but you see them looking happy, looking confident; and.. they look fine.
Girlfriend A: Well, maybe that’s just one side to them….. But anyway, what about you, Steven, what do you look for in a girlfriend? Do you have certain requirements or look for a certain kind of person?
S: In the past, I would. Especially when I just entered the industry, and always being asked about my ideal girlfriend. I would say prefer girls with long hair, Chinese ethnicity, gentle etc. etc. But I won’t do that anymore. Now, there’s none, no particular ideal image.. only need to be compatible… of having that certain feeling of clicking, of fate. 缘分 I no longer believe in looks. Good looks don’t always equate beauty. If you love her, her looks is not important, what is, is that you two can communicate with each other, can connect with each other’s thoughts and mind.. .a tacit understanding…
A: But if she’s stupid, then she can’t meet your mind, right?
S: This..this…(chuckles) Stupid…I don’t how to define stupid. But anyway to me, what’s inside you is more important than your looks. Some beautiful women are not truly beautiful. After so many years of living, I prefer natural looks, that’s why I dislike heavy make up. I don’t need her to be stunning, just simple and natural, and genuine. I truly feel that all I need is a genuine woman, doesn’t have to be too beautiful.
A: I agree. But do you think that genuineness is hard to find? S: Very tough. A: In what way? In that you don’t have the time to spend in getting to know her, or that most women wear a mask in public?
S: Yes. Nowadays, women are very capable, very smart and financially independent. That doesn’t mean I feel inferior, but that when a person is overly smart, it can sometimes create a barrier, inadvertently erecting an extra barrier to a relationship’s communication. If a woman is truly worried; imo, if she worries about not finding a boyfriend or getting married, I think instead of dressing to the nines, she should let her own stlye 气质do the attraction.
A: Will that really work? Having no make up? But make-up will attract more people. Haven’t you heard what Hacken say? I once asked Hacken; I probe: What is your ideal girlfriend. He quips: Easy, just one word, “Beautiful!”.
S: Well, he’s married one, right? For me, I think, style/class (气质) is very important. If a woman has refinement, (内涵)and if she has character, her beauty will naturally shine through. I believe this saying: A good heart makes one beautiful. 心善则貌美. No matter how beautiful you are outside, but if your heart is not, gradually you won’t look beautiful anymore. For me, this is my least kind of beauty. I most appreciate those who seem to get prettier the more you look at them. Over time, your strengths gradually appear, your refinement shows, as well as your character. And thereafter, you notice she can play the piano, looking very pretty indeed when she does. She can cook, and look extra pretty when making soup. These would all show the beautiful sides of her.. I think this (beauty) is far more lasting.
A: Be more natural, yes. It goes for both males and females.
If a woman has substance/refinement(?), (内涵)and if she has character, her beauty will naturally shine through. I believe this saying: A good heart makes one beautiful. 心善则貌美. No matter how beautiful you are outside, but if your heart is not, gradually you won’t look beautiful anymore. For me, this is my least kind of beauty. I most appreciate those who seem to get prettier the more you look at them. Over time, your strengths gradually appear, your refinement shows, as well as your character. And thereafter, you notice she can play the piano, looking very pretty indeed when she does. She can cook, and look extra pretty when making soup. These would all show the beautiful sides of her.. I think this (beauty) is far more lasting.
Thoughts: I so appreciate the above Steven's pov on inner beauty, which is why I so appreciate Steven as a person as well as an artiste. His pov matches most of mine, too. Strawberry67, since you two are of the same horoscope, I bet that goes for you too. Akazukin, what is your horoscope, Libra?
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........And I wonder whether he ever regretted listening to the director of that series to curl his hair rather than dying it blond like he initially suggested (according to what he said in that interview).
LOL! Mo ngan tai (Cantonese) IIrc in "Dogs" blessing ceremony video, Steven said he did not dare look himself in the mirror for the longest time. And in another video, the hostess teased Steven for his unusual "quietness" and wondered if it was because he was not satisfied with his hairdo. Steven ku xiu. (苦笑) The hostess couldn't contain her smiles as she waited for Steven's response. ( Not my favorite, but Steven didn't look half bad in blond.
Strawberry67, do you remember those 2 videos?
Akazukin
Feb 16 2009 3 55 PM
tamaya, thanks for another reading on Steven's thought. I'm actually a Taurus, which explained my stubbornness and satisfaction of being alone at home most of the time.
Here's my thoughts on Steven's thoughts (Warning: it may be long. Thanks for the patience):
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I’d think, is it because he’s being lazy? It’s easy to define laziness. Like maybe he needs to deliver something faraway, so suddenly he has a stomach ache. Can’t go. Ok. Fine. It is also fairly easy to determine laziness. But a person’s stupidity, it’s tricky to decide whether he’s naturally stupid, or that I’ve yet to see his strength(s). Even if he’s an idiot, I still believe he has his own strength(s). It may be from one's perspective, one can’t see them yet, therefore, he's labeled as stupid.
I think I have a rather different interpretation on lazy as compared to him. To me, "maybe he needs to deliver something faraway, so suddenly he has a stomach ache" is an act of irresponsibility rather than laziness. I have to admit that I'm a very lazy person. When studying, I will always only learn on the part that I have calculated to have high percentage on coming out in exam. When my parents asked me to go do something, I will see whether someone is more capable and available than I am. If my sister who is more capable is there, I will let her do it, especially since she is a very hardwoking person and always volunteer to do the work. But if no one is there to do it, I will do it for my parents, because it becomes my responsibility. And when it's my responsibility, I will stop at no expense until I get it done and done with the best result that I can get. I will put every effort on my responsibility. But still, I'm a very lazy person. I won't do extra stuff that yield no direct result. I will often put off some works that are not close to its deadline, although I won't miss the deadline.
So far, I have always regarded "laziness" as reluctance to do work. But avoiding to do work that you must is irresponsibility. You maybe reluctant but you will do it anyway, I think such a person is considered lazy. Some lazy people are not irresponsible.
I have to regretfully disagree with him that "lazy" is easy to define. I think "lazy" is a very relative concept (just like his definition on "stupid"), because it often depends on the person's interest. Believe it or not, there are actually people whose hobby is working, and I have met few of such persons. This person can be very diligent when it comes to working, but very lazy when it comes to eating. You may have cooked for them and only requested them to eat as it's the time for lunch or dinner, but they refused, because they are so engaged in their hobby and forgot that eating is something important to keep them going for their health. And then, there are also some people who are very diligent in working at the office, but very lazy on doing housechores. There are also people who are the other way round. I think "laziness" relates to interests. When it comes to their interests, most people become diligent. But when they have no interests, they become lazy. I'm actually one lazy girl when it comes to make-up and shopping, only put on make-up to be presentable and only go shopping when I have something to shop. But when it comes to writing my opinion on TV series, I'm actually rather dilligent, aren't I? I usually wish I could put as much effort in my work as I put in TV series.
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If you’re talking about a life partner; then frankly, if I truly love her, even if she were a pig, I would still love her, much less her being lazy or stupid.
Wow, what a man! This is why Steven is a good husband material.
Well, on to stupidity. I have to be honest on this. I'm like the A. I can't tolerate stupid people. I keep telling myself to tolerate them but it's so hard when it happens to you everyday. You will tell them again and again what to do, but even if you have wasted a long time explaining to them with the utmost extra details to make sure they didn't go wrong, and remind them again and again not to forget, and even when everyone arounds you understand totally what you said and even scolded you for being long-winded to him/her, it just breaks my nerve when he/she still goes wrong with it. I lose my temper, scolded him/her. And because I lose my temper and scolded someone not to be blamed for stupidity (because they don't wish to be stupid), I hate myself and start seeing myself as evil. Everyone blames me on my bad temper, because they regard anyone that raises their voices as the guilty one. And people hate me, I hate myself more. It's okay when it's someone you meet once in a while, but for a life partner... that's a huge challenge.
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no matter how beautiful you are outside, but if your heart is not, gradually you won’t look beautiful anymore. For me, this is my least kind of beauty. I most appreciate those who seem to get prettier the more you look at them. Over time, your strengths gradually appear, your refinement shows, as well as your character. And thereafter, you notice she can play the piano, looking very pretty indeed when she does. She can cook, and look extra pretty when making soup. These would all show the beautiful sides of her.. I think this (beauty) is far more lasting.
Totally agree on this one. Inner beauty is what that matters and is far more lasting.
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LOL! Mo ngan tai (Cantonese) IIrc in "Dogs" blessing ceremony video, Steven said he did not dare look himself in the mirror for the longest time. And in another video, the hostess teased Steven for his unusual "quietness" and wondered if it was because he was not satisfied with his hairdo. Steven ku xiu. (苦笑) The hostess couldn't contain her smiles as she waited for Steven's response. ( Not my favorite, but Steven didn't look half bad in blond.
Poor Steven! Well, blond is not his best look but he definitely looks okay. Maybe he should try blond highlight because I only saw him dying his hair all blond in the movie Where He Belongs (haven't finished this because the internet is too slow).
strawberry67
Feb 16 2009 4 13 PM
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 16 2009 4 13 PM)
Strawberry67, since you two are of the same horoscope, I bet that goes for you too.
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Yes, we are of the same kind. The inner beauty must come first. Physical beauty will fade away but inner beauty remains forever. Of course the person must be "soon ngan" also in the first place.
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 16 2009 4 13 PM)
Strawberry67, do you remember those 2 videos?
Yes, i remember both the videos, saw it on his tvb blog. First time seeing him in curly hair and in flipflop and he was so dark at that time. One of the local newpaper here featured a small write up on SOL. There was this picture attached (Stevia) taken in a badminton court. Steven said he has to shave his head soon for a new series starting in March. He said something like this is his 4th time shaving his head for tvb.
tamaya
Feb 16 2009 5 38 PM
About lazy vs stupid people. Like Anna, between having a lazy and stupid life partner, I’d pick neither. I'd much rather be single. But I would have to say I have less tolerance for lazy people than stupid people, overall.
In your case, it might be working smarter not harder, especially in taking advantage of your sweet-temper sister. I too spot picked my questions for exam, and proud to say, am very good at it. Nothing to do with laziness, just working smarter and if I could have some one do my chores, why not. Lol! All in the name of working smarter and getting things done, regardless!
I think Steven’s definition of laziness is one that specifically arises out of irresponsibility, not the temporary indolence present in ‘normal’ people, or working smarter through whatever means to get things done. Like the example he gave, that person’s laziness equates irresponsibility in not getting his duty done. Also, I think what bugs him as me is that laziness is a variable, therefore controllable, whereas, stupidity (as opposed to ignorance) is inborn, therefore uncontrollable. Lazy people frustrate as they do not fully realized their inherent potential unlike stupid people who also frustrate, but due to no fault of them are born that way. In short, he has more sympathy for the slow moving tortoise, which despite its innate slowness, still strives to apply all his effort into what he’s doing, rather than the rabbit, because of laziness, refuses to apply his natural talents, therefore incurring his and my disdain for their laziness. Stupid people wanted to but couldn't, whereas, lazy people could but didn't want to. I think that's the context of Steven's definition of laziness.
Also I lean towards stupidity because I grew up with a slow/dim witted person as my neighbor. And now I live next door to a mentally challenged child. Therefore I am sympathetic to their parents’ and their plight.
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Actually, Steven had wanted to shave his head for Safeguards, but didn't in consideration for his co-workers who refused to. Also he was asked about him being a 2nd lead to Moses. I think Steven had no clout in declining his role in LOW.
Right on the spot! I always tell people, work smart, not work hard. But it's never a crime to work hard.
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Also, I think what bugs him as me is that laziness is a variable, therefore controllable, whereas, stupidity (as opposed to ignorance) is inborn, therefore uncontrollable. Lazy people frustrate as they do not fully realized their inherent potential unlike stupid people who, due to no fault of them, are just born that way. In short, he has more sympathy for the slow moving tortoise, which despite its innate slowness, still strives to apply all his effort into what he’s doing, rather than the rabbit, because of laziness, refuses to apply his natural talents.
I agree with "laziness" being more controllable than stupidity. While stupidity is usually inborn, are we really sure that "laziness" is not due to nature that is outside our control too sometimes? I mean, some people are lazier than the others because they are less healthy that the others. I do feel I am more hardworking when I feel more healthy and am lazier when I feel less healthy (and this is nothing to do with a disease, but can be something like hormone imbalance or weak heart).
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Also I lean towards stupidity because I grew up with a slow/dim witted person as my neighbor. And now I live next door to an autistic child. Therefore I am sympathetic to their parents’ and their plight.
Surely, in any case, a stupid person is more sympathetic than a lazy person. But that definitely doesn't mean that the former is easier to tolerate than the latter. Moreover, not all stupid person is aware that he/she is stupid. It gets especially frustrating when someone is stupid but he/she thinks he/she is very smart and keeps messing up things and do not accept anyone's constructive criticism.
Those that acknowledge they are stupid and willing to try hard to improve is more tolerable. But are those that are aware that they are stupid really stupid? I mean, if they are that stupid, will they ever figure out that they are stupid?
And those people in youth centre... I hardly regard them as stupid. They usually have this very hidden talents somehow hidden because the society doesn't appreciate it. There are also those who didn't do well in school but is actually very smart.
I guess I have a bit higher tolerance on lazy person (not the irresponsible type, I have NO tolerance for irresponsible person) because although they don't do work, they don't tend to mess with my work. It's fine when someone don't do work, I regard them as non-existence. But when someone stupid works, he/she often mess it up, it only becomes double work for me. And I don't have an angel's patience. Besides, like you said, laziness is more controllable and if the lazy person does not want to control it, we still have a bit space to control it, like using incentive that we know will work on them. But facing a stupid person, I'm often helpless and hopeless.
Good on you guys who have blessed patience to have high tolerance on stupid people.
And then, there is the worst of the worst kind - a stupid and lazy person who doesn't admit herself/himself as stupid and lazy.
tamaya, about rayfile:
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Awwww, is those three pics supposed to get me drooling? Steven's look didn't change much since DOMD to LOW and SITS. He looks absolutely charming. He still looks charming enough without shaving his head in SG too. Or maybe, that's where Seung Ji's inner beauty comes into place.
Did anyone ever make comparison between Moses and Steven? I think they are two actors with different style of acting. So even if one is to comment on their actings, comparison is not really needed or not much help. It's a pity LOW ratings in HK flopped though, but then with some draggy parts in it, it's understandable. Moreover, high budget doesn't always equal high rating. At least LOW's review is not as bad as GOL's. LOW is quite well-received in China, was it?
tamaya
Feb 16 2009 6 40 PM
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 16 2009 11 42 AM)
Right on the spot! I always tell people, work smart, not work hard. But it's never a crime to work hard.
I agree with "laziness" being more controllable than stupidity. While stupidity is usually inborn, are we really sure that "laziness" is not due to nature that is outside our control too sometimes? I mean, some people are lazier than the others because they are less healthy that the others. I do feel I am more hardworking when I feel more healthy and am lazier when I feel less healthy (and this is nothing to do with a disease, but can be something like hormone imbalance or weak heart).
Surely, in any case, a stupid person is more sympathetic than a lazy person. But that definitely doesn't mean that the former is easier to tolerate than the latter. Moreover, not all stupid person is aware that he/she is stupid. It gets especially frustrating when someone is stupid but he/she thinks he/she is very smart and keeps messing up things and do not accept anyone's constructive criticism.
Those that acknowledge they are stupid and willing to try hard to improve is more tolerable. But are those that are aware that they are stupid really stupid? I mean, if they are that stupid, will they ever figure out that they are stupid?
And those people in youth centre... I hardly regard them as stupid. They usually have this very hidden talents somehow hidden because the society doesn't appreciate it. There are also those who didn't do well in school but is actually very smart.
I guess I have a bit higher tolerance on lazy person (not the irresponsible type, I have NO tolerance for irresponsible person) because although they don't do work, they don't tend to mess with my work. It's fine when someone don't do work, I regard them as non-existence. But when someone stupid works, he/she often mess it up, it only becomes double work for me. And I don't have an angel's patience. Besides, like you said, laziness is more controllable and if the lazy person does not want to control it, we still have a bit space to control it, like using incentive that we know will work on them. But facing a stupid person, I'm often helpless and hopeless.
Good on you guys who have blessed patience to have high tolerance on stupid people.
And then, there is the worst of the worst kind - a stupid and lazy person who doesn't admit herself/himself as stupid and lazy.
"I do feel I am more hardworking when I feel more healthy and am lazier when I feel less healthy (and this is nothing to do with a disease, but can be something like hormone imbalance or weak heart). "
This kind of laziness has a name, it's called "Excuses!" Ya, my middle name. Of course, we are discounting health induced laziness, here, if there's such a thing.
As for those who do not see themselves as stupid, they are called a "ignoramus" or a "bigot". They are the worst kind of stupid people. I guess my tolerance depends on the kind of stupid people I'm dealing with. I have more tolerance for those who are born stupid or not so predisposed/talented vs those who acquired stupidity.
Good on you guys who have blessed patience to have high tolerance on stupid people.
You misunderstood, I (and I think Steven, too) do not have 'high' tolerance on stupid people, just between lazy (=irresponsible) and stupid (inborn) people I will tolerate lazy people less, not to mention, less respect too.
They usually have this very hidden talents somehow hidden because the society doesn't appreciate it. There are also those who didn't do well in school but is actually very smart. You're right, autistic or mentally challenged do have hidden talents. ( I love Rainman) Exactly Steven's point in defending the so-called stupid people. Just that their latent talents need to be recognized and brought forth.
I've had my own share of lazy and stupid people at work. Both made my working life miserable. Stupid or lazy, at the end of the day, I've to clean up their mess. But I have more disdain for lazy co-workers because the mess could have been avoided, but I have to say, the line is very, very thin.
In general, Moses' and Steven's China fans get along fine. They even roomed together in a hotel when visiting Steven and Moses on the LOW set. I think fans of both do not compare them, because like you say, they take on different roles, but not so the reporters who like to rehash then and now between these two, to Steven's disadvantage of course. A thought, why did Ms. Lok had Steven take on GC2? It's like she took a sadistic pleasure in overtly putting Steven in his place for having the temerity of being a prodigal son.
Drool if you must, but the screencaps are posted for visual comparison of his Qing characters.
eta videos And they captured their LOW visit in these video clips.
Strawberry67, have you watched these videos. There are lots of Steven's videos uploaded onto utube.
Don't know about its ratings in China, but it sure has gotten Steven more fans judging from their postings and an upsurge in steven baidu membership last year when it was aired in Hunan (?) tv station, and as did Sits, for that matter.
Akazukin
Feb 17 2009 7 03 AM
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I do feel I am more hardworking when I feel more healthy and am lazier when I feel less healthy (and this is nothing to do with a disease, but can be something like hormone imbalance or weak heart). "
This kind of laziness has a name, it's called "Excuses!" Ya, my middle name. Of course, we are discounting health induced laziness, here, if there's such a thing.
I don't think it's actually an excuse. Most people don't understand it until they have a slump in health. It's only natural when someone who feels sore waist tends to prefer lying on bed longer than those who feel jumpily healthy. And not comparing between people, but the same person, when someone is fatter, he tends to be lazier than when he (the same person) is thinner, because it's harder for them to move when they are fatter.
But if you would like to think that as an excuse, wouldn't the "work smart" thing an excuse too? Quoting Steven, "Many lazy people are smart. Smart people know how to slack off".
Either way, I can't think of any reason that I can call myself not lazy.
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You misunderstood, I (and I think Steven, too) do not have 'high' tolerance on stupid people, just between lazy (=irresponsible) and stupid (inborn) people I will tolerate lazy people less, not to mention, less respect too.
If anything, high tolerance for stupid person is very admirable. I strive to be one although I keep failing.
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I've had my own share of lazy and stupid people at work. Both made my working life miserable. Stupid or lazy, at the end of the day, I've to clean up their mess. But I have more disdain for lazy co-workers because the mess could have been avoided, but I have to say, the line is very, very thin.
I guess, I have different interpretation to "lazy" since I distinguish it from "irresponsibility". That's why I tend to have higher tolerance to "lazy" than "stupid". I have met a lot of lazy people who won't volunteer to do work or will try to avoid taking responsibility but once it becomes their responsibility, they did it well because of their sense of responsibility. This type of lazy person, I don't have to clean up their mess.
But like I said, although I can't tolerate stupid people, I tried to tolerate them even though I keep failing. But with irresponsible people, I have NO tolerance for them whatsoever. I don't even think I have to try to tolerate them.
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In general, Moses' and Steven's China fans get along fine. They even roomed together in a hotel when visiting Steven and Moses on the LOW set. I think fans of both do not compare them, because like you say, they take on different roles, but not so the reporters who like to rehash then and now between these two, to Steven's disadvantage of course. A thought, why did Ms. Lok had Steven take on GC2? It's like she took a sadistic pleasure in overtly putting Steven in his place for having the temerity of being a prodigal son.
At least Steven has no backlash (that I have heard of) from TGC2, besides having low ratings from the tombstone rating season. Talking about Ms. Lok, I think all Tavia's fans have agreed that this person plays favouritism to no end of detriments. Since she joined TVB in 2004, every year after that only gets worse with the obvious favouritism, some fortunately coincidence with common wish, and most annoyingly selfish bias towards her unliked favourites and unfair TVB awards and promotion.
Seeing what she did to Tavia/Linda or Annie Man/Myolie, what can't she do to Steven/Moses? But no matter what she did, I believe the majority audiences still know how to appreciate good acting. At least Steven is now back to his leading status. And I think it's also because Steven left TVB for several years that they tried to "reprimand" him - this is my speculation of course.
honeydaisy
Feb 17 2009 9 15 AM
Wow, the discussion here goes so quickly. You guys are really good at this. Here's my 2 cents.
Talking about stupid/lazy. That's a tough one, because I'm not a very patient person by nature, and stupidity or laziness irritates me. But what Steven said about the definition of "stupid" comes into play as well; what is stupid? To me, mentally retarded people are not stupid -- they are mentally retarded. Stupid people do things that defy common sense. It can be pretty subjective, but I think common sense is the lowest common denominator, and if you can't even meet that standard, you're in trouble. To me, a stupid person is someone who does something without thinking, without using common sense. They don't use their brain to think, to consider things on a case-by-case basis. I don't think there are many truly stupid people around. And the kind of stupidity that I'm talking about is quite closely linked to laziness/irresponsibility.
Some people pretend to be stupid, because they are actually lazy. It's someone who finds an excuse not to do something just because it's too difficult or too much trouble or takes too much time. Someone said above that such a person is irresponsible. I have zero tolerance for irresponsible people. I don't see people who spot questions in exams as being lazy; they are being very hardworking indeed actually! It takes brains to figure out how to get the best results in the shortest amount of time.
Which one is worse? I can't choose. They're both just as bad.
As for Steven's view on make-up & girlfriend. He gave such a good answer. I'm so proud of him! This is especially in show business, where looks are supposed to be everything. I'm glad he isn't shallow like some others are. I agree that natural is best, and that a life partner should be able to contribute something more than just looks. Looks are superficial after all, and beauty fades with time. I find that Steven is quite genuine in his responses; you don't feel like some PR person has written up the talk points for him to memorize. It seems like he really believes it, and he has no qualms about sharing his thoughts. It's the way he says stuff like:
"...those I know are never lazy in this aspect, very diligent indeed.. even applying it layer by layer, can’t even get done within an hour. Maybe if they can slack off in this area, they’d look even cuter?"
Touche!!
(p/s - Tamaya, thanks for pointing me to the English transcripts of the radio interviews!!! So good to understand the interview completely! I like Steven's candidness. His laughter is so infectious; it's so fun to listen to him.)
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