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Akazukin
Hey, I really enjoy discussing this with you guys. I was about to stop discussing about lazy/stupid since it is not directly related to Steven (even though he is the one that starts this, indirectly). But everytime I try to stop, I feel inclined to continue. Hope no one minds.

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Talking about stupid/lazy. That's a tough one, because I'm not a very patient person by nature, and stupidity or laziness irritates me. But what Steven said about the definition of "stupid" comes into play as well; what is stupid? To me, mentally retarded people are not stupid -- they are mentally retarded. Stupid people do things that defy common sense. It can be pretty subjective, but I think common sense is the lowest common denominator, and if you can't even meet that standard, you're in trouble. To me, a stupid person is someone who does something without thinking, without using common sense. They don't use their brain to think, to consider things on a case-by-case basis. I don't think there are many truly stupid people around. And the kind of stupidity that I'm talking about is quite closely linked to laziness/irresponsibility.


I agree with what you said mostly. But I think stupid is more of "inability to think" rather than "not using their brain to think". But "inability to think" vs "not using their brain to think" are quite hard to distinguish in real life. People may misunderstood someone as stupid just because this person is lazy to think. I guess that's why in TVB series, you often see someone saying "So stupid, please use your brain!"

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Some people pretend to be stupid, because they are actually lazy. It's someone who finds an excuse not to do something just because it's too difficult or too much trouble or takes too much time.


I believe lazy and stupid are not mutually exclusive, but they are different traits.

"Some people pretend to be stupid, because they are actually lazy." - I believe this kind belongs to smart but lazy.

When someone knows how to pretend and doing a good job at it, this person must be smart. Like Steven said, smart people know to slack off.

An example of difference in smart and stupid person when trying to get out of job:
- Smart and lazy: comes up with a good excuse that are not easily found out by others.
- Stupid and lazy: comes up with a bad excuse that everyone knows this person is lying to get away from his duty.

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I don't see people who spot questions in exams as being lazy; they are being very hardworking indeed actually! It takes brains to figure out how to get the best results in the shortest amount of time.


Thank you. But I still regard this spotting questions in exam COUPLED WITH using the extra time left by spotting questions to watching TV or sleeping as an act of laziness. It actually doesn't take a lot of thinking for me to spot questions in exam because it usually come as obvious to me. But even if a little thinking is required, the work is nothing as much as having to learn for all the parts. Besides, studying shouldn't be about getting marks but about acquiring knowledge, in an ideal sense. I'm just taking the shortcut route, it will reach my destination (of graduating), but I will also miss some in my journey. Not necessarily saying it's a bad thing because I still think it's the most efficient and effective way, but eh, I don't see any diligence about it.

But if tamaya spot questions and using the extra time left to learn about the not-so-likely-coming-up questions, then she is very hardworking indeed.

Seems like everything gets more complicated once we dig into it.

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I agree that natural is best, and that a life partner should be able to contribute something more than just looks.


I also find what Steven said about life partner should be accomodating each other's dream, that he should be able to help her realising her dream and vice versa is especially meaningful.

But with him and the women he know, spending time on their make-up. I think it has to do with their occupation, because Tavia has said she is never a person who likes to wear make-up or dress-up. This is evident in her appearances before DB. But due to occupation requirements, she is forced to make a change.
tamaya
Hi Akazukin and Honeydaisy, I enjoy the discussion too. Thanks for making this thread come alive.
But right now I'm pressed for time, so can't stay long to chat.

Honeydaisy, I've listen to this close to this 2 hrs live radio interview and Steven's answers were all very spontaneous, very direct (sometimes overly so) and not canned at all. The link to the audio has since been disabled, and I've lost the link to the transcript.

Just want to let the readers know that Steven has updated his blog again.

He wrote a tribute to his male col-stars for assisting him to hone his acting skill.
A fast and loose translation:

Blog
Title:Thank you to the veterans 2009-02-17 19:58

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and his blog replies:
2009-02-17 17:54
Happy Birthday!
I said I'll not reply once past 10 pm, didn't say will not update my blog. heehee!

2009-02-17 19:58 in response to his wallpaper of him holding a baby in his arms (ajcl)
Actually, I had wanted to be a father for a long time!
Nam B? Nui B? (baby boy or girl) whichever, so long this new life arrives happily. Then it's fine!
But of course, I hope for a girl first then a boy, because an elder sister will take care of the younger brother. Ai, ideal ..ing




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Gotta go. Do check out the pix in Steven's blog.

These 2 snatches of conversation are also part of the same interview.
Interview date: Feb 2nd 2007 CNY 7th day, Saturday 9pm – 10 pm
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edit: blog translation revised.

Akazukin
tamaya, thanks for taking time to translate what he wrote in his blog to us. I find it a pity that up til now, I still can't find the way to register for an account to post a response in his blog. And your translation means a lot to us who are not of chinese literacy background.

That's a collection of great actors he collected as his teacher. The teacher/friend relationship sound very interesting and nice, like those we usually watch from TV series. Hehehe...

Has Steven ever collaborated with Paul Chun? I think besides those he listed, Paul Chun is also one very capable actor.

He is being too humble with his acting skill/talent. He is already a fine actor at the time of Ultra Protection, which is so long ago. At that time, I think he shared great chemistry with Tsang Kong who acted as his father too. Of course, he has continued to improve along the way.

(Edit: Wow, this page sure moves quick. A new page already...)
tamaya
Akazukin,
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strawberry67
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 16 2009 6 38 PM) *
strawberry67, Steven's upcoming series is based on the life story of a renowned Qing author, Pu


Yeah! Looking forward to another new project of Steven. Keep us inform of any latest development or news on this series. Any idea who is he pairing up with this time?

QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 16 2009 7 40 PM) *
Strawberry67, have you watched these videos.
There are lots of Steven's videos uploaded onto utube.


Yes i have seen it on you tube. Always envy the fans from mainland as they seems to have more opportunity to see Steven. And Steven is always very friendly. He does take the time to talk to them.
Akazukin
tamaya, thanks. Now I shall start typing my long overdue comment on Ji Yuen. I hope my chinese writing is not too bad and he will be able to understand it. By the way, did you get a chance to inform him about AF? Because if you haven't, maybe I should include it.
One more thing though, I can't find which button I'm supposed to click to post a reply. Which one is it?

strawberry67, I think he will be paired up with Linda again, which is why I'm not as enthusiastic as I should be.
strawberry67
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 17 2009 5 41 PM) *
strawberry67, I think he will be paired up with Linda again, which is why I'm not as enthusiastic as I should be.


Yes, a big big thanks to tamaya for all transalations done, truly appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. Pairing with Linda again? Oh no, what happen to the rest of the actresses in tvb? I hope he could pair with someone else, maybe can create better chemistry.
tamaya
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 17 2009 10 41 AM) *
tamaya, thanks. Now I shall start typing my long overdue comment on Ji Yuen. I hope my chinese writing is not too bad and he will be able to understand it. By the way, did you get a chance to inform him about AF? Because if you haven't, maybe I should include it.
One more thing though, I can't find which button I'm supposed to click to post a reply. Which one is it?

strawberry67, I think he will be paired up with Linda again, which is why I'm not as enthusiastic as I should be.


Yes, I did inform him of asianfanatics but it doesn't hurt to remind him again of it.
Yes, Linda is confirmed in the cast.
I'm Steven will enjoy reading your comment.

To post reply, login
At the bottom of Steven's every entry is this reply icon right besides 共217個回應(as of now)
click that to unfold the reply page. Scroll all the way down to the response blank box. Type in your msg. then click save.

Good luck!


Yes, Linda's a bit too young for him, I think.
strawberry67
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 17 2009 3 52 PM) *
Just want to let the readers know that Steven has updated his blog again.


Tamaya, i just realized something. How come the message that Steven wrote in his yahoo blog also appear in his tvb blog? I always thought it was someone else who write on behalf of the artist in tvb.com. It wasnt like that before.
tamaya
QUOTE (strawberry67 @ Feb 17 2009 11 06 AM) *
Tamaya, i just realized something. How come the message that Steven wrote in his yahoo blog also appear in his tvb blog? I always thought it was someone else who write on behalf of the artist in tvb.com. It wasnt like that before.


Someone probably dutifully transferred his yahoo entries onto his tvb blog as updates. Btw, his sina blog which is also set up tvb mgmt for tvb artistes , has also been simultaneously updated. I hope Steven knows about this transferring of his entries onto these 2 other blogs of his because some of the stuff he worte is quite personal, don't want reporters twisting his words to sell their papers.







yoyo365
tamaya, thanks again for all of your translations, especially the ones from his blog! smile.gif Wow, it seems as if this page is moving so quickly, hard to keep track of where I left off in reading. Nice to meet everyone here! I'll check back very so often, but real life may be getting busier again due to graduate work.

strawberry67, I left you another message on your page in the comment section, I'm not sure if you got it or not. Still not sure why I can't send you a personal message.

Thanks all for enriching my Steven obsession wink.gif, I've been listening to his songs pretty constantly right now. He has such a nice voice, very melodic and can reach both low and high ranges well...smile.gif Amazing singer, and an amazing actor!
tamaya
It’s a pleasure to do the translation, don’t mention it.
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……..But what Steven said about the definition of "stupid" comes into play as well; what is stupid?


"inability to think"? "not using their brain to think"?
Or is it stupid is as stupid does? Quote: Forrest Gump 1.gif

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I don't see people who spot questions in exams as being lazy; they are being very hardworking indeed actually! It takes brains to figure out how to get the best results in the shortest amount of time.


Choking on laughter. Well said,and well put! thumbsup.gif Hereafter, will use that on my pedantic elders and i]friends[/i] who chide me for “taking the shortcut route” on exams….therefore missing out on my “schooling journey.”

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But if tamaya spot questions and using the extra time left to learn about the not-so-likely-coming-up questions, then she is very hardworking indeed.


Actually, it all comes down to motivation and self-interest. I will read up the “not-so-likely-coming-up questions” more for self-interest rather than in the hope of getting good grades, when question spotting gets me the same end result. I see this as studying smarter not harder to fulfill my exam goal, as oppose to my education goals.

QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 17 2009 8 56 AM) *
……..And your translation means a lot to us who are not of chinese literacy background…..That's a collection of great actors he collected as his teacher. The teacher/friend relationship sound very interesting and nice, like those we usually watch from TV series. Hehehe..... Has Steven ever collaborated with Paul Chun? I think besides those he listed, Paul Chun is also one very capable actor…..He is being too humble with his acting skill/talent. He is already a fine actor at the time of Ultra Protection, which is so long ago. At that time, I think he shared great chemistry with Tsang Kong who acted as his father too. Of course, he has continued to improve along the way.


Are you saying you, not of chinese literacy background, can actually write a Chinese review on Ji Yuen? If so, wow! Impressive!

I don’t think Steven has ever collaborated with Paul Chun before.

I think Steven is really taking Kara Hui’s advice to heart on conveying appreciation for people he looks up to and cares about.

Steven first attracted my attention as Dr. Joe in HH1, and that was only his 2nd tvb series. I absolutely enjoyed his and Nick Cheung’s partnership, and he was great too in UP. He was just so adorable and believable as the pampered, fussy xiu yeh jai.

QUOTE (honeydaisy @ Feb 17 2009 3 15 AM) *
I find that Steven is quite genuine in his responses; you don't feel like some PR person has written up the talk points for him to memorize. It seems like he really believes it, and he has no qualms about sharing his thoughts. It's the way he says stuff….


You should have heard how he said them – peppered with humor, laughter, quick wit and quick rejoinders.

QUOTE (yoyo365 @ Feb 17 2009 10 18 PM) *
….but real life may be getting busier again due to graduate work. Thanks all for enriching my Steven obsession wink.gif, I've been listening to his songs pretty constantly right now. He has such a nice voice, very melodic and can reach both low and high ranges well...smile.gif Amazing singer, and an amazing actor!


Yeah, don’t you hate it when real life intrudes! Did you manage to download his songs?
Not to mention, Steven is also an amazing writer too.



post 443 an abridged 1999 news report on his character in Ultra Protection
~~~Ma Chu Wai, the new favorite si nai lady-killer. ~~~~
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honeydaisy
Thanks for the translations and photo, Tamaya! It's always cute when guys cuddle babies.

Saw Steven's latest blog entry. I thought maybe it was a rundown of his favourite collaborations. I'm watching The Gentle Crackdown 2 at the moment, and really enjoying it! Wayne Lai and Steven really work well together. I also enjoyed their performances in Steps. The more I watch the more I'm amazed by Steven's versatility.

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I think he will be paired up with Linda again, which is why I'm not as enthusiastic as I should be.

I've not seen a series where Steven's paired up with Linda, but Tamaya's right -- she does seem a bit young for him.
Akazukin
QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 18 2009 4 09 PM) *
"inability to think"? "not using their brain to think"?
Or is it stupid is as stupid does? Quote: Forrest Gump 1.gif

I'm so ashamed of myself. I have not watched Forrest Gump so no comment.


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Actually, it all comes down to motivation and self-interest. I will read up the “not-so-likely-coming-up questions” more for self-interest rather than in the hope of getting good grades, when question spotting gets me the same end result. I see this as studying smarter not harder to fulfill my exam goal, as oppose to my education goals.


Yeah, which is why I think laziness and hardworkingness relates to the person's interests.

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Are you saying you, not of chinese literacy background, can actually write a Chinese review on Ji Yuen? If so, wow! Impressive!


Haha... "review" is too grand of a word for my scrabble. It's more like my thoughts.

Well, my mother tongue is not Chinese nor English. It's actually only in recent years that I can read Chinese articles, of course I would have to rely on dictionaries on some of the words that I do not recognise.

Took several hours writing what's not as long as what I usually write in English. I hope my chinese writing is not too bad for him to understand it. Actually, computer really helps a lot as I only have to key in the pinyin and choose from the characters. If I'm to write, it may take me a whole week.

Plan to post it to his blog tonight, hope everything goes as planned.

200+ responses are a lot of responses. It's amazing that he actually reads them.

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Steven first attracted my attention as Dr. Joe in HH1, and that was only his 2nd tvb series. I absolutely enjoyed his and Nick Cheung’s partnership, and he was great too in UP. He was just so adorable and believable as the pampered, fussy xiu yeh jai.
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Afterword:
It is in this very series that Steven lost his virgin screen kiss to…ta-da Bowie. And his disgusted reaction after that kiss was hilarious. As he had hoped, Steven successfully portrayed an immature, spoiled, rich brat who can be annoying into a likable character,occasionally, acting as a comedic relief. His Xiu Ye Jai (Young Master) was very endearing and extremely adorable. Just like his Dr. Joe in Healing Hands 1, Steven held his own against the more seasoned actors; imo, in this series he even stole scenes from Bowie.


Well, UP is the first series I watch of him, so he pretty much wins me with his first series that I watched of.

And yes, Steven Kei Yin Jo is a very adorable character. He doesn't annoy me at all when he was fussy and pampered and childish. In fact, it only makes him cute and serves as a comedic relief to the series, like you said.

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How to portray him without the viewers finding him annoying? A little too overtly, viewers might be turned off, so had to be very meticulous.”


He successfuly turned the "spoilt immatureness and fussiness" into something very cute.

I think he stole scenes from Bowie too. In fact, I think he stole the whole series from Bowie to me. I can't remember any Bowie's scenes except those that he shared with Steven.

He and Bowie also share good chemistry with each other. The moments where he lived in Bowie's house is very entertaining to watch, also how they shared the same room and Bowie has to let him has the big bed for his own, and also their heart-to-heart talk about Wai Fong (Marianne's character). And I still remember Bowie nagging that Steven did not help to open the door when he is sitting on the sofa right in front of the door when the doorbell is ringing.


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“Bowie (co-star) once said this in a TV interview: “He was just acting as himself ma!” How was I acting as myself? When did I become a snarky person? It’s all acting on my part. I don’t eat caviar, don’t live in such a big house, and have never had a big allowance. But I do have this kind of upper-class friends. And through them, I fleshed out my character; a fastidious, rich young man.


I don't know what Bowie means by Steven acting as himself in UP. As a colleague, he is not aware of his economic background? Does he actually think Steven is such a fussy little boy as he is in UP?

He deserves commendation for making people think that he is like his character in real life, especially since he is quite the opposite.


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Many producers after watching Ultra Protection would ask Mui Xiu Ching (series’ producer) why I agreed to take up the role? She countered with: “Why not?” Now, they know I’m up to any challenges.” As an actor, Ma Zai would like to experience all kinds of different roles, with one exception; no coffin scene.


Yeah, why not? What's wrong with the young master role?

But I wonder why he doesn't want to film a coffin scene. I believe there are numbers of artistes that have laid in coffin for their scenes before. Is there a particular reason like belief?

Competing with HZGG is not easy. To be honest, UP overall storyline is not as captivating as HZGG, so it's tough luck that it has to be pitted against HZGG. But I think, everyone that has watched UP will have a deep impression of Steven in there. He definitely stole the show for me, and my family members when we watched UP together.

I didn't realise that Mui Siu Ching is the Producer of UP. She is a very good Producer indeed.

QUOTE (honeydaisy @ Feb 18 2009 4 20 PM) *
Thanks for the translations and photo, Tamaya! It's always cute when guys cuddle babies.

Saw Steven's latest blog entry. I thought maybe it was a rundown of his favourite collaborations. I'm watching The Gentle Crackdown 2 at the moment, and really enjoying it! Wayne Lai and Steven really work well together. I also enjoyed their performances in Steps. The more I watch the more I'm amazed by Steven's versatility.


I've not seen a series where Steven's paired up with Linda, but Tamaya's right -- she does seem a bit young for him.


Haven't watched TGC2 yet. But from SG and Steps, I really like their brotherhood relationship. I'm amazed at Steven's versatility too. His versatility not only stretched from acting the different types of characters, but also from acting tragedy to comedy.

honeydaisy, I think Steven has the most collaborations with Linda, VOH II, AJCL, Dogs in the Beat, and probably the upcoming series. Did I miss anything? Not to mention that Tavia's role in SITS is originally Linda's too.

honeydaisy
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honeydaisy, I think Steven has the most collaborations with Linda, VOH II, AJCL, Dogs in the Beat, and probably the upcoming series. Did I miss anything? Not to mention that Tavia's role in SITS is originally Linda's too.


Wow, really. Well, thank goodness Tavia played the lead in SITS, because I seriously enjoyed that pairing! Tavia has such a uniquely beautiful look and the role suited her so well (in terms of carriage & looks), and her chemistry with Steven was just explosive. I haven't seen Linda in anything but Gem of Life, so maybe I'm just being biased. smile.gif
Akazukin
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Wow, really. Well, thank goodness Tavia played the lead in SITS, because I seriously enjoyed that pairing! Tavia has such a uniquely beautiful look and the role suited her so well (in terms of carriage & looks), and her chemistry with Steven was just explosive. I haven't seen Linda in anything but Gem of Life, so maybe I'm just being biased.


Thank you for your kind praises on Tavia. Though SITS is not her best ancient look, I think she still looks quite pretty in it. I reckon she looks better with her married hairdo though, due to the bang. And I totally love their chemistry in SITS, so intense. They really can talk to each other with their eyes, those no-dialogue scenes impressed me.

I'm glad the role landed on Tavia instead too. If Linda had it instead, I probably would not have watched SITS. Then I would have missed awesome performance by Steven in there.

What other series of Steven have you watched?

OT about Linda:
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honeydaisy
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What other series of Steven have you watched?


To be honest, I didn't use to watch a lot of TV before SITS!! It was after SITS that I started taking interest in Steven's other series. I have only watched one other series with Steven in it, and that's Steps, which I really enjoyed, even though it was about Ballroom/Latin dancing. Although I love dance in general, I don't like Ballroom and Latin (too OTT). I prefer other kinds of partner dancing, like Argentine Tango, but I guess that's not as showy and internationally established.... But I digress! I was really impressed when I read that Steven doesn't like dancing, and he had to learn all of that on the go. That was super impressive. I've taken ballroom classes before, and I know it is almost as physically demanding as ballet. I liked Steven's smart-alecky character in Steps; and together with Wayne Lai, they were both a hoot to watch.

I'm currently watching The Gentle Crackdown 2. So far I'm only at Ep 6, and loving it so far. I've never laughed so much watching TV. I already have Safe Guards in my collection, waiting to be watched...

Tamaya recommended that I watch Better Halves, so that's on my list as well. smile.gif

Re: Linda Chung:
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I hear A Journey Called Life is good, though. (Steven & Linda paired up in this one, right?) Have you seen it? Did you like it? Somehow I didn't think that pairing would do anything for me, so I didn't get the DVDs....
tamaya
QUOTE (honeydaisy @ Feb 18 2009 5 27 AM) *
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I'm currently watching The Gentle Crackdown 2. So far I'm only at Ep 6, and loving it so far. I've never laughed so much watching TV. I already have Safe Guards in my collection, waiting to be watched...

......... I hear A Journey Called Life is good, though. (Steven & Linda paired up in this one, right?) Have you seen it? Did you like it? Somehow I didn't think that pairing would do anything for me, so I didn't get the DVDs....


GC 2 will only get better as it progresses.
Better Halves is a must see series for Steven's and Maggie's fans.
AJCL is highly recommended too. The chemistry among of Kent, Steven and Linda was excellent. Don't be put off by Linda's acting, she performed impressively in this series. But most of all, the storyline is very well written and meaningful. Between GC2 and AJCL, I prefer AJCL, myself.

Prior to AJCL, Linda's performances in VOH2, Always Ready and HOG, respectively (didn't watch Moonlight Resonance) did not impress me at all, but she did in AJCL. I think Kent and Steven helped to bring out the best in her acting then. She did, after all, pick Steven as her present best onscreen partner. Their age difference did not show up much in the series.

Ot:
On 2 separate interviews (radio & tv) that I know of, Linda candidly revealed that earlier in her career because she couldn't immediately extricate herself from her character, she had had such a crush on Steven when doing VOH2.



Akazukin
honeydaisy, I'm also impressed at Steven's fast learning ability of dancing. He looks like he has a long history of dancing background in Steps, even though it is nothing as professional as the professional dancer, but he is pretty good.

I reckon Better Halves is a must watch, for any person, especially those looking for comedy. I didn't watch it for any particular person when I first watched it and the whole casts impressed me, along with the great storyline and good laughters. The costume looks pretty nice too. So I recommend it too. It's still my most favourite series of TVB. You'll see a very different Steven in BH from SITS and SG.

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I hear A Journey Called Life is good, though. (Steven & Linda paired up in this one, right?) Have you seen it? Did you like it? Somehow I didn't think that pairing would do anything for me, so I didn't get the DVDs....


No, I haven't watched this and for apparent reason that I don't like Linda.

Heard that her character started off as a brat but turned good. I believe when people say that she did better in AJCL because like honeydaisy said, I think she fits the bratty look more than goodie-two-shoes. But I don't think I can accept watching Steven's character (whom I would probably like) falling in love with a brat that I don't like to start with, even though the storyline sounds captivating, just like what I feel about Return of the Cuckoo. My head would probably caught in fire watching them, so I can't bring myself to watch it yet. Why watch a series just to get myself mad right?

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Their age difference did not show up much in the series.

Actually, I don't think their age difference show up much in any event, because Steven does look very young for his age, and Linda kinda looks more mature. Actually, even Moses looks his age, his pairing with Linda doesn't ring a warning bell on age difference either.

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Ot:
On 2 separate interviews (radio & tv) that I know of, Linda candidly revealed that earlier in her career because she couldn't immediately extricate herself from her character, she had had such a crush on Steven when doing VOH2.


Is she sure that it's only because she couldn't immediately extricate herself from her character? I mean, after all, here is one hot looking guy who is very gentleman.

I wonder if Steven knew that, because didn't he keep saying that actresses like Linda, Fala, etc all only see him as a big brother? I guess he is the one that keep seeing them as younger sisters.

PS. And finally, posted my thoughts on Ji Yuen in Steven's blog. I didn't know that they have limit for the length of the message that I am forced to break them into two messages.
tamaya
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 18 2009 9 54 AM) *
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Is she sure that it's only because she couldn't immediately extricate herself from her character? I mean, after all, here is one hot looking guy who is very gentleman.

I wonder if Steven knew that, because didn't he keep saying that actresses like Linda, Fala, etc all only see him as a big brother? I guess he is the one that keep seeing them as younger sisters.

PS. And finally, posted my thoughts on Ji Yuen in Steven's blog. I didn't know that they have limit for the length of the message that I am forced to break them into two messages.


What Linda said was that she has had crushes on her two earlier male co-stars namely Ekin Cheng and Steven. But somehow, my gut feelings tell me that the inclusion of Ekin was just a smoke screen. After all, Ekin had a girlfriend at that time. I sure Steven knows, being the perceptive guy that he is, but Linda must have gotten over her crush on him since she can now joke about it. They seem to share an easy, comfortable working relationship. I bet her crush is now an inside joke for them.

Just read your post in Steven's blog. Wow! Given that you are not Chinese educated, your command of written Chinese is impressive. Here's keeping my fingers crossed that Steven will respond to your post.


Akazukin
I believe she has gotten over her crush too, and that's why she is willing to be open about it. Reading what Steven said about his response when his friends picked his song/MV when they go karaoke together is to threaten that he will leave, I think he won't be the kind to joke about her once upon a time crush. That's why he keeps saying that she sees him as a big brother.

And thanks for your kind words. Haha... I hope Steven will respond too, but I won't get my hope high. It's good enough that I get a chance to write to him about what I feel.
strawberry67
QUOTE (honeydaisy @ Feb 18 2009 12 27 PM) *
I hear A Journey Called Life is good, though. (Steven & Linda paired up in this one, right?)


A Journey Call Life is really good. A very meaningful and touching series, don't miss it!!!
tvbauntie
tamaya - Thanks for all clips! I loved watching Steven stop and offer his hand to Tavia during the Sina Awards night.......such a gentleman! Do you know where I can buy Steven's albums or get hold of Steven's songs? Thanks!

I was watching BOL............ maybe I'm biased (Tavia is my only favourite TVB actress), I thought Steven/Bernice's chemistry was only okay. Tavia/Steven's chemistry in LOW,SITS was very good. I would still watch BOL for Steven.....so handsome and he looks so good in glasses. The storyline is also good.....I love this type of storyline....cops/lawyers.
tamaya
QUOTE (tvbauntie @ Feb 18 2009 2 14 PM) *
tamaya - Thanks for all clips! I loved watching Steven stop and offer his hand to Tavia during the Sina Awards night.......such a gentleman! Do you know where I can buy Steven's albums or get hold of Steven's songs? Thanks!

I was watching BOL............ maybe I'm biased (Tavia is my only favourite TVB actress), I thought Steven/Bernice's chemistry was only okay. Tavia/Steven's chemistry in LOW,SITS was very good. I would still watch BOL for Steven.....so handsome and he looks so good in glasses. The storyline is also good.....I love this type of storyline....cops/lawyers.


Do contact Strawberry67 @ this thread. She has all of Steven's albums and like you, she lives in Malaysia, too. Actually, I too think Steven and Bernice's chemistry in BOL was just so-so. But it was great in Steps. Lots of chemistry there, I think.


To listen online:
using firefox or IE
http://www.sing8.com/song/0/146/index.htm
http://www.1ting.com/singer/09/singer_592.html

on IE only
http://www.real2000.org/web/gang/cd_4511.htm

check the boxes to listen. enjoy!
yoyo365
tamaya, I finally watched the rest of SITS and commented in the ST thread on SITS tongue.gif At least there's a hope at the end of SITS while there wasn't any in LOW.

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Yeah, don’t you hate it when real life intrudes! Did you manage to download his songs?
Not to mention, Steven is also an amazing writer too.


Yep that's for sure! I'm slowly going through the songs...some of the links definitely aren't there any more, and I still have no clue what rm files are. I'll have to figure out which songs I'm still missing once I go through the missing albums. And yes, there are a lot that are similar between albums.

As for SG, I finished that wink.gif For some reason, I think I watched most of that series (a lot of the beginning was really familiar to me), it was more the latter end that I couldn't recollect. Very good series, and I love him in it. As for Elaine, the end she was less annoying.
Akazukin
yoyo365, been to SITS' thread and saw your post. Really enjoy reading it and have replied there. And yeah, at least it's a step forward ending from LOW, even though it's not completely satisfying. Well, we still have SOL to look forward to. So, after watching SG and SITS, do you prefer Steven in SG or SITS?

All this talk about BOL makes me want to watch it. Maybe I should watch it after I watch TGC2. But then, I don't like Kate. I personally feel Steven and Bernice chemistry are okay in Steps, but nothing so intense like Stevia in SITS that get me crazy over. But then, it could also probably due to the plot where Steven is rather reluctant in getting into a relationship in Steps. Anyone care to give me a spoiler ahead of Steven's and Bernice's relationship plot in BOL?

All in all, I have this feeling that no matter whom Steven is paired with, even when the actress is so helpless at acting that she can't even squeeze out an emotion, heck even if he pairs up with a wood, he will still be able to carry off those deep emotional scenes to the fullest. But of course, as audiences, at least me, I would feel distracted from the other side's bad acting (just like Sheren Tang and Kate Tsui in LFD). But this is not to mean Bernice didn't do well in Steps. I think she fits this type of role well, though her dancing didn't live up to the reputation of the character.
honeydaisy
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I personally feel Steven and Bernice chemistry are okay in Steps, but nothing so intense like Stevia in SITS that get me crazy over.


Akazukin, totally agree with you here. They were sort of cute together, but you didn't really feel like either of them were totally into each other. To me, it felt like he was reluctant to commit to her even to the end, so the final scene seemed anti-climactic. Sure, they ended up together, but it felt like a bit of a farce. It was not like SITS at all, where the chemistry between the leads was almost palpable.
strawberry67
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 19 2009 9 13 AM) *
All this talk about BOL makes me want to watch it.


Akazukin, BOL has very good story line. You can see a different side of Steven in that series. Enjoy it!

QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 18 2009 9 47 PM) *
Actually, I too think Steven and Bernice's chemistry in BOL was just so-so. But it was great in Steps. Lots of chemistry there, I think.


Agree with tamaya on this. I also find Steven and Bernice so so only. In terms of appearance and perhaps age wise, i think Steven looks most matching with Tavia. What do you guys think? Whom would you like Steven to pair up with in the series he's going to act in future? Do share your opinion, thank you.
Akazukin
honeydaisy, yeah, I do feel he still has a bit of hesitance to commit to her even in the end of Steps. So maybe their lack of chemistry is partly due to the script. But it was funny how she has to do all the moves, and the scene where he threw the flowers away because his friend adviced him on women matter is hilarious. Also, I like how he avoided her during her dancing stances trying to seduce him. But I totally understand her plead, I mean he is a very attractive guy indeed, though not everyone can be as bold as she is.

strawberry67, any sneak preview on what's their relationship going to be in BOL?

I'm a Tavia's fan so I'm gonna be biased on this. Of course I would like to see Steven with Tavia again. Moreover, they share blasting chemistry with each other so I won't get tired of good things.
It maybe due to Bernice's build-up more than anything because so far, appearance-wise, she only looks compatible with Moses though I reckon she has pretty good chemistry with Sunny too. Age-wise, Bernice is only a year older than Tavia but Steven is 8 years older than Tavia, so it shouldn't be an issue.
tvbauntie
tamaya - Thanks for the info!

strawberry67 - I'm interested in Steven's songs.....I'm from Malaysia too. Do you know where I can buy his albums?

Akazukin, Tamaya - I've watched Steps and did find it to be quite enjoyable. I believe Steven/Bernice's chemistry in Steps was better than in BOL. Stevia's chemistry is very good.....the looks between them.......so much feelings in them. I've not really watched BOL yet.....only scanned through the last few episodes so I can't give you accurate spoilers. I too am not really fond of Kate but I'm going to watch BOL for Steven. He looks so good.....swooning.....

I agree with strawberry67.....in terms of appearance, chemistry, acting, Steven matches most with Tavia. I do like Maggie Cheung, Flora Chan but they hardly film with TVB anymore. Among the current actresses in TVB, I still prefer Tavia.....She may not be the prettiest but she seems nice and is a good actress. She matches well with most of the guys and has good chemistry with many of them. Therefore, I still would like Steven to pair again with Tavia in the future.......perhaps portray professional roles like doctor, lawyer....Steven looks so good in suits......swooning again. Hot Steven with pretty Tavia = explosive.
strawberry67
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 19 2009 5 23 PM) *
strawberry67, any sneak preview on what's their relationship going to be in BOL?


Hum.... this series is a bit different from others that Steven has acted. It is more serious (he's a lawyer) with a good story line. Steven and Bernice were childhoold lovers but thet were separated due to minor understanding. As the grew, the bumped into each other and fell in love all over again. But due to Bernice job, they broke off and Bernice pretend to be closed to a villian to get information. Won't reveal too much otherwise you will not enjoy the show ;-)

QUOTE (tvbauntie @ Feb 19 2009 5 54 PM) *
strawberry67 - I'm interested in Steven's songs.....I'm from Malaysia too. Do you know where I can buy his albums?


I tried almost everywhere in KL but unable to get it. I have to asked a friend to get it from HK. Which part of M'sia are you from?
tvbauntie
strawberry67 - I'm from KL. I believe Steven has many albums - which albums would you recommend buying?
tamaya
QUOTE (yoyo365 @ Feb 18 2009 3 21 PM) *
tamaya, I finally watched the rest of SITS and commented in the ST thread on SITS tongue.gif At least there's a hope at the end of SITS while there wasn't any in LOW.

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Yep that's for sure! I'm slowly going through the songs...some of the links definitely aren't there any more, and I still have no clue what rm files are. I'll have to figure out which songs I'm still missing once I go through the missing albums. And yes, there are a lot that are similar between albums.


Yo, Yoyo365,

Just responded to your sits comment with mine. Your 'leftover' word broke my dammed up emotions on sits. Hope is always good! 1.gif

Rm did not work for me either. Have no idea what it is either.


tamaya
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 19 2009 2 13 AM) *
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All this talk about BOL makes me want to watch it. Maybe I should watch it after I watch TGC2. But then, I don't like Kate. I personally feel Steven and Bernice chemistry are okay in Steps, but nothing so intense like Stevia in SITS that get me crazy over. But then, it could also probably due to the plot where Steven is rather reluctant in getting into a relationship in Steps. Anyone care to give me a spoiler ahead of Steven's and Bernice's relationship plot in BOL?


Be forewarned, BOL has bad ending too. I actually like BOL, although Steven's screentime is again limited but Michelle Yim more than made up for it. And the story is fast pace and griping. And threw as a bonus, the male cast is eye candy.

I dislike Kate Tsui's acting too. The pouting way she talks just rubs me the wrong way. I couldn't get past it to enjoy her acting in all her series. Her performance is more bearable in Steps than in LFD & BOL. When I first saw her in LFD and even in BOL, I couldn't believe she was actually Ms. HK at one time. Thank goodness she wasn't pair with Steven in BOL. I like Bernice's style and personality, and the way she compote herself in Steps interviews in China impressed me. But I've to say her acting, especially her line deliverance in BOL, was stiff, no getting around that. But she was so better in Steps, although her line deliverance still needed work, but she was cute with Steven. And the romantic comedy helped their chemistry too.


QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 19 2009 2 13 AM) *
All in all, I have this feeling that no matter whom Steven is paired with, even when the actress is so helpless at acting that she can't even squeeze out an emotion, heck even if he pairs up with a wood, he will still be able to carry off those deep emotional scenes to the fullest. But of course, as audiences, at least me, I would feel distracted from the other side's bad acting (just like Sheren Tang and Kate Tsui in LFD). But this is not to mean Bernice didn't do well in Steps. I think she fits this type of role well, though her dancing didn't live up to the reputation of the character.


IIrc, I've read a similar thought to yours in TGC2 and elsewhere about Steven's amazing ability to carry newbie and/or a weak actress in a series and somehow make their relationship work in a series. IMO, Katie is the better dancer among the three of them, at least, from what I could see in their 6 people dance during the 40th tvb anniversary night.
yoyo365
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yoyo365, been to SITS' thread and saw your post. Really enjoy reading it and have replied there. And yeah, at least it's a step forward ending from LOW, even though it's not completely satisfying. Well, we still have SOL to look forward to. So, after watching SG and SITS, do you prefer Steven in SG or SITS?

Akazukin, thanks! I was finally able to sanely watch the ending. I can't wait for SOL, and this time, I better get a happy Stevia pairing, while the endings are getting better (graded by success of their relationship), I just want something happy for a change. Angst is all good and makes for a better show, but I want something upbeat!

Hmm which do I prefer, how about this I prefer Steven in SG because of how heroic he was, what he stood for, how caring he was of family, willing to take on the family burden, and managed to pull the entire family together in the end. The cast of SG was great, everyone (with the exception of Elaine) I thought was perfect for their parts. Yes his character was very straightforward, what you see is what you get but he played it so grandly. (And Wayne/Steven chemistry on screen was great...)

What was lacking was the female lead which is where I guess I prefer the emotional romantic angst of SITS with Steven and Tavia. He played in many ways a more complex character in SITS, emotionally torn between loving Suet and keeping the fact that he indirectly had a hand in her parents' deaths. With Tavia as the female lead, it made for a very bittersweet ending (I'll talk more in the SITS thread when I get a little more time). The interaction between these two were heartwrenching where I didn't feel the same with SG even when Steven and Elaine couldn't marry due to her previous marriage (issues with chemistry or possible acting skills of Elaine).

As for BOL (currently watching it), I like the Bernice/Steven chemistry, it's got it's own uniqueness. I watched them in Steps, and I love their fun banter in that one. In BOL, it's infinitely more serious (characters are definitely different). I must say though, Steven dancing with Bernice in the one scene, was pretty romantic (other than the random voiceover). So far in BOL, they're cute together, no huge sparks though, I think they had more banter/interesting chemistry in Steps, but I'm not done yet. She's one of the TVB actresses that I do like...it just seems from what I've seen that she has that honest type of personality who loves to laugh and is a ton of fun to be around.

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Yo, Yoyo365,

Just responded to your sits comment with mine. Your 'leftover' word broke my dammed up emotions on sits. Hope is always good! 1.gif


tamaya, I'll reply this weekend! Lol, I was trying to figure out what word to use, and "leftover" came to mind, since Hin basically fell out of the picture once he passed on, and Suet could turn her attention to Yuen.

strawberry67, I'm not sure if you read your comments, but I'm from the states. Do you know of any places that I could get a hold of some select songs (once I figure out which ones I'm missing)?
WimpyKid
Steven, Tavia filmed at Disneyland

credit:kenrn05
tamaya
I love this song and the mv.

To bury a hero 葬英雄



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Thanks, vx 522 for the video clip
Akazukin
Thanks for the information on BOL. Actually, I have already watched the ending episode last year, because I was curious to Shirley's performance. So I know the ending already and more spoilers are not gonna spoil me too much. The ending is not too bad, I reckon.

OT: Bernice
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yoyo365, what you write is exactly what I feel about SG and SITS too. I think Elaine's lack of acting skill has downplayed the love storyline a bit. Actually, I find their love storyline rather interesting, scriptwise.

And THAT DISNEYLAND CLIP!!! Thanks so much for sharing, but...
OMG, what Tavia said about the ending being surprising, I hope they are not going to follow those Alex and Stephy movies endings where it always end up wired and NOT happy ending.
I am indeed surprised when I saw Michael Tse there. What is he doing there???
And all this while, we get to see only Stevia taking those rides together. Are they trying to mislead us?
Geez... I thought we will have a happy ending for Stevia, finally, why why why???
I can feel the heartbreak already from Steven's face. Why is it so SITS again?
That clip contains quite a lot of spoilers. I'm surprised that they let them filmed in public area for the ending, not scared that the ending will be leaked? Gosh, I hope they can provide us a happy ending now that this is somewhat leaked.
I want Stevia HAPPY ENDING, no compromise!
But I have to admit, the Disneyland background looks romantic.

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tamaya, what does llrc mean?
tamaya
akazukin, IIrc = if I remember correctly

Vx beat me to uploading the sol video here from youtube
but I guess he did not want to be the bearer of bad news so did not include
it owner's msg wihich I now post in the spoiler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buM2lpFj6fA

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Akazukin
Even though... unethical..., Can we.... spread this around as much as possible to force TVB to make another ending in case this is really the ending ending??

So sad... so this is what Tavia said to be surprising? It's surprising indeed, depressingly shocking.

I don't want this ending, GO CHANGE THE ENDING TVB!!! Perhaps, has someone post to Steven about the leak of ending? So he would know and act upon it. Hopefully they go back to change the ending, before Steven shaved his head.
Akazukin
Next time Steven and Tavia should pair up as main leads in Mui Siu Ching's production so they will have a higher chance of having a perfect happy ending together.

I still feel like crying for SOL ending. What the hell.
tamaya
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 20 2009 6 49 AM) *
Even though... unethical..., Can we.... spread this around as much as possible to force TVB to make another ending in case this is really the ending ending??

So sad... so this is what Tavia said to be surprising? It's surprising indeed, depressingly shocking.

I don't want this ending, GO CHANGE THE ENDING TVB!!! Perhaps, has someone post to Steven about the leak of ending? So he would know and act upon it. Hopefully they go back to change the ending, before Steven shaved his head.


Maybe...perhaps...Tavia rejects Michael's marriage proposal, or Steven like Yuen, in a burst of impulsive determination, walks right up to Tavia and boldly declares his love to her. Anyway, if Michael values his life, he'd better not be the cause of another unhappy Stevia ending.

Anyway, don't think they have time to re-shoot a different ending considering Tavia's schedule.
Akazukin
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Maybe...perhaps...Tavia rejects Michael's marriage proposal, or Steven like Yuen, in a burst of impulsive determination, walks right up to Tavia and boldly declares his love to her. Anyway, if Michael values his life, he'd better not be the cause of another unhappy Stevia ending.


Err... I doubt so. Because in the clip, Steven walked away. And did you see the way he walked away? It's like he can't bear it anymore.

And I don't think he has the impulsive determination that Yuen has. He is Chi Yat Bo, being late one step, he is definitely not Nip Ji Yuen, who has never been late in anything except on realising how evil his godfather is.

Unless... the story continued to Tavia chasing after Steven instead and confessed to him that although Michael proposed to her, she has rejected him because the one he loves is Steven. Yeah, wishful thinking.

Do they have to overhighlight Chi Yat Bo's lateness though? I mean, the poor guy searched whole day for the girl. He came early, and he still has to arrive late? What a joke? The guy maybe slow, but does he have to be that unfortunate? I hope they don't give me a bad memory of Disneyland before I even step into it.

Hints from Stevia:
Steven - Chi Yat Bo is a very cute yet pitiful and regretful/tragic character. The ending is not confirmed but I prefer an open ending that lingers in people's heart.
Tavia - the last scene is filmed in Disneyland, making a beautiful ending. To know the ending, please watch the series so you will be surprised.

To quote myself:
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Unless... the story continued to Tavia chasing after Steven instead and confessed to him that although Michael proposed to her, she has rejected him because the one he loves is Steven.


Is this even surprising? Not one bit.
tamaya
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 20 2009 8 27 AM) *
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Do they have to overhighlight Chi Yat Bo's lateness though? I mean, the poor guy searched whole day for the girl. He came early, and he still has to arrive late? What a joke? The guy maybe slow, but does he have to be that unfortunate? I hope they don't give me a bad memory of Disneyland before I even step into it.

To quote myself:
Is this even surprising? Not one bit.



Haha! You sure do have a way with words.

Is this even surprising? Not one bit.
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Akazukin
Hey, just realising you guys are talking about rm files. I'm wondering if it's a file with the extension being .rm? If it is, it's usually an older rmvb files and should be able to be played in real player.

QUOTE (tamaya @ Feb 21 2009 12 53 AM) *
Haha! You sure do have a way with words.

Is this even surprising? Not one bit.
twisted.gif


Hehe... I feel there is a riddle in your bolding of words and that evil smiley. But I can't figure out exactly what, do you mind to open the lid?
tamaya
QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 20 2009 9 09 AM) *
Hey, just realising you guys are talking about rm files. I'm wondering if it's a file with the extension being .rm? If it is, it's usually an older rmvb files and should be able to be played in real player.



Hehe... I feel there is a riddle in your bolding of words and that evil smiley. But I can't figure out exactly what, do you mind to open the lid?


Did I ever tell you you're a very perceptive person?
lid opened, worms coming out. -
I may be wrong, but I sensed there's more restrained emotions behind your innocuous statement.
So helping you to erupt with the icon.

I suspect as such about those rm files but they won't not play in my real player - don't know why.


The 2nd background song, which btw is in Steven's lifestyle album, used in the utube is so aptly picked for that scene. Heart's breaking already!

lyrics of the song
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abbreviated song lyrics - to get the gist of the song meaning

Can’t forget
It’s hard to be a man,
A man by nature should be strong
His eyes should never don tears
No matter how pain he feels
Should let known he’s hurting
…..
A man licks his wounds in silence…
Doesn’t even know how to heal himself
Can’t forget, can’t forget
Can’t forget her smile
Forget her the look of her,
angst can be beautiful too
Can’t forget
What’s funny is that she’s already forgotten
But my feelings linger.
Akazukin
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Did I ever tell you you're a very perceptive person?
lid opened, worms coming out. -
I may be wrong, but I sensed there's more restrained emotions behind your innocuous statement.
So helping you to erupt with the icon.


You did say I am very perceptive of Steven's personality. Thank you so much for your kind words, although I'm not sure I deserve it. I sure hope I'm wrong about the ending.

But you're very perceptive yourself. You are right. I'm implying something with those words you bolded. Trying to be civilised with my bitterness, I can only be sarcastic.

If real player can't play it, then I am of no help. Did it say the file is error or damaged or something like that?

The guy who took the video almost had a perfect close-up angle on Steven's face when he was acting. It's like he is part of the camera crew. And that second song fits perfectly to the scenes, no matter melody or lyrics, and it's sung by Steven too. It can pass as a background song in SOL. I reckon the first song will have made a better impact if he filtered or toned down the original noise of the video, since we didn't get to hear them saying anything much anyway. Having two songs played in the background, I don't know which one to listen to for the first half.
tamaya
I wonder if the director purposely arranged some kids or shorter persons in front of Steven so as to get a clear, unobstructed shot of him and his reaction. Anyway, he stood out in the crowd. And that flash of his signature cheek to cheek grin is a gem to behold.



strawberry67
QUOTE (yoyo365 @ Feb 20 2009 1 55 AM) *
strawberry67, I'm not sure if you read your comments, but I'm from the states. Do you know of any places that I could get a hold of some select songs (once I figure out which ones I'm missing)?


Sorry dear, i do not know where to get the songs except buying his cds. Let me know which song you want. May be i could burn into a cd and send to you.

QUOTE (tvbauntie @ Feb 19 2009 6 40 PM) *
strawberry67 - I'm from KL. I believe Steven has many albums - which albums would you recommend buying?


I will suggest you buy Steven Ma Greatest Hits and New Songs. It is double disc and it has all of Steven's most beautiful songs collection and every song is worth listening. You may not be able to get it in KL afterall this cd was released about 5 years ago. Let me know if there's anything i could help.

QUOTE (VX 522 @ Feb 20 2009 4 48 AM) *
Steven, Tavia filmed at Disneyland
buM2lpFj6fA
credit:kenrn05


Thank you VX 522 for posting this video. Stevia did attracted a large crowd in disneyland.

QUOTE (Akazukin @ Feb 20 2009 3 27 PM) *
Err... I doubt so. Because in the clip, Steven walked away. And did you see the way he walked away? It's like he can't bear it anymore.


Maybe Steven will turn back and walk up to Tavia and declares his love for her and immediaely Tavia will turn down Michael's proposal. Then they live happily ever after. 1.gif
tvbauntie
Guys, Let's cool n calm down (I'm telling this to myself too)......Maybe this is not the ending scene. Perhaps, Tavia goes after Steven or Steven changes his mind (doesn't want to be always chee yat boh) n goes after Tavia. Thought an article mentioned that this series is made for Stevia.....How can Stevia not end up together. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope for a lovely romantic happy Stevia ending. There is always hope......In the end, SITS has a kinda happy ending......

strawberry67 -
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