i think it's really funny how some philipinos consider themselves pacific islanders and not asian

hmm..very interesting...i always thought that philipinos are mexican more than asian...but pacific islanders....now that very interesting

hello!
uhm filipinos(im one) are asians. just see it geographically as well as its semi-cultural background, race from the malayans. i said semi because partly we had been influence drastically by invaders hundreds of yeras ago...

although, i have read from somewhere we can also be treated pacific islanders because of our land topography..ISLANDS near the pacific.

they r asians of cos....
i'm from Sabah, a malaysian state situated right next to Philipines...
We are the South East Asians.... so its obvious philipinoes are asians!

No doubt, Philippine is part of asia.

Some people, as for themselv's consider to be known as Asians, but if you have ever taken the SAT's you'll notice that they are not in the Asian section, I have been told that in their homeland. They feel disgraceful being called Asian so are now known as 'Pacific Islanders'

I consider them asians as they're officially considered as asians where I live.

Philippines geographically is definitely in asia. There has been debate amongst people wiether filipinos are asian or not asian and wiether they are pacific islanders
or not I found other forums debating this. Check the links below
flips aren't asian
http://www.createblog.com/forums/lofiversi...php/t51726.html
http://forums.yellowworld.org/archive/index.php/t-4276.html
One of the reasons why this is debated is the population of philippines is so diverse they come in different colours and features. The reason for this is the history of the people.

The original filipinos are actually Agtas they are also called Pygmies, Negritos and Aeta, and a variety of other names based upon their specific locale.
Here are the links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito
http://members.cox.net/hopefoundation/hope...ildren_line.jpg
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/filipinos.html

The Malays came between 200 BC and 1500 AD.
The Spaniards arrived in the late 16th and 17th centuries.
see the link below.
http://www.tourism.gov.ph/explore_phil/pla...tory&province=6

I have spent sometime there and I would say filipinos regard themselves as asians and I regard them as asians.

Philippines geographically is definitely in asia. There has been debate amongst people wiether filipinos are asian or not asian and whether they are pacific islanders or not I found other forums debating this. Check the links below
flips aren't asian
http://www.createblog.com/forums/lofiversi...php/t51726.html
http://forums.yellowworld.org/archive/index.php/t-4276.html
One of the reasons why this is debated is the population of philippines is so diverse they come in different colours and features.

which continent do they belong to? if it asia, then yeah they're asian, if not then no
and i don't remember there being a continent called parcific, i know there is a parcific ocean, which isn't a land. filipine definately can be called parcific islander too if they want,

im from philippines, been living here since birth and i've never heard any filipino consider themselves or referring to themselves as Pacific Islanders..no, we dont particularly associate ourselves with the Pacific. We dont expressly say we are Asians, i mean, we dont use the term as it is..but yes we ARE asians and link with our Asian neighbors (ASEAN)

jackool, are you filipino? just wondering..because u know more about our history than i do

of course they are. I have a lot of flip friends that consider themseleves asians

No Iam not, but I have spent some considerable time there, I like the place and people very much.
I try and go there to visit when I can. Unfortunately philippines doesn't get as much tourism as Thailand or other countries in Asia.Hopefully this will change. Many filipinos Ive talked to don't seem to be very proud of the country maybe because of the governments in present and past.

But they should be proud really, its a great country.

I think most pinoys don't think they are asians. My friend says he's islander not asian.

Technically they are asians to me just like indians.

true..we do lack patriotism most times..with corruption and all.. but when trouble comes, we eventually become one thanks for saying this is a great country.

Philippines is part of southeast asian nation, thus asian.

Pinoy po me.


Thank u very much it's means a lot to us (pinoys) to hear such an appreciation.
yea that is so true our bureucracy sucks (sori for the word)!


Francesca and Jackool,

I agree to both of u!

thanks for saying that Philippines is a great country!

I voted that it's a stupid question because the filipinos that I met in SE Asia never considered themselves to be anything but asian. Even overseas, they considered themselves asian. I think a few contrarians like to pull some peoples leg and argue that they are pacific islanders.

OK, for those who said that Philippines is a great country... thank you so much for that compliment.

Since I'm a pure Filipina, I consider myself as an asian and I'm proud of it. Philippines is located at the South East ASIA so we consider ourselves as asians. But yeah, I agree with some of you who said some Filipinos consider themselves because Pacific Ocean is located at the right side of our country.

Philippines is also a great country but yes, I admit that we're lacking patriotism plus graft and corruption is very severe in our politics which results to poverty.Jackool, thanks for saying we have a great tourism but yah, that's also because of lacking of patriotism but actually, not all the times.... maybe it's just because of colonial mentality since Spaniards, Americans and the Japanese colonized our country for how many decades.

in other words, some of the Filipinos consider themselves as Pacific Islanders but in general, Filipinos are definitely asians.

ofcourse they are asians i have some filo friends and they are asians

Although they're more often considered as Pacific Islanders, most of them see themselves as being Asians and I also consider them as Asians

Well my big bro dont think so.
He says "We're not asians we're Filos."
But I think so, he also says everyone he knows says what he says too.

hmmm.. i really thought we Flips were Hispanics.

I am half Viet and half Filo. I consider myself as Asian, not half Asian and half Pacific Islander. All my Filo friends consider themselves as Asians too.

well i don't think being asian is fully dictated by where your country is located. think about it would you consider Anna Kournikova to be asian? (yes Russia is located in asia. or else how can asia be the biggest continent and Europe be the smallest?). personally when I think of an asian person I don’t think of Russians or Indians or Pilipinos.

Actually, I think most people are given false information about Filipino. Filipinos are considered as Asians not Pacific Islanders.

You can find out why by clicking this link: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Asian


Filipino aren't Pacific Islander at all. If you look at the map, the Philippines is right below China and to the east of Vietnam which is practically part of Asia. Pacific Islander are people who are Polynesian, Micronesian, or Melanesian descent.

Filipinos are Asian, ok! Jeez whats with you people gotta be all technical about it, we Asian in spirit so it wouldn't even matter if we WEREN't in body, that's all that truly matters right?

Hahaha....only retards that don't consider if the phillipines is an asian Country. I think how the term "islander" came up is only by knowing that these Countries have so many islands (thousands of em' I mean), and because of that they then wanted to classify them as islanders. Which I think is legitimate.
But when you start an argumentation about a continent, then it should be viewed from the perspective of its geographical location, and nothing else.

PS: Indonesia has got a lot more islands than the phillipines and it's stretched even further down the east compared to the phil, but why isn't it classified into the pacific islander then??

In my opinion, phil is part of the malayan heritage(southern thailand, malaysia, indonesia, the phillipines), based on the fact that they got very similar physical features on its native residents, local cuisines/dishes, and language(somewhat). Out of its very little spanish influence.

I'm a filipino but I can't blame other people if they classify us as pacific islanders other than asians it's probably because recently when the korean wave/ taiwanese and chinese series invaded the rest of asia...it's like the term "asian" only refers to those chinky eyed people like koreans, japanese and taiwanes, chinese etc.. while we filipinos with our spanish sounding names, big eyes and brown skin doesn't exactly fit the description of "asian" these days...well, malaysians, viets and indonesians fit more in the description of asian than we do because probably their culture are less influenced by the west....

filipinos has been called a lot of names before like: latins of asia, brown americans etc...

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im pinoy and i consider my self asia....
because i dye my hair like most "asians" do...
lol

Phillipines is a part of asia and Miss Manila qualifies for Miss Asia - so why not????

whenever i think of the term "asian", i think of the orientals [although a bit of a deragatory term] - the chinese, japanese and koreans... filipinos are asian but they're considered more of a pacific islander since it's in SE asia

in my dictionary, yes, unless they don't want to be called an asian. some of my friends marry to filipino's. and we all cantonese, matter of fact sometimes we
can't even tell the difference between them to us. and i don't mind to meet them
if i get a chance.

I consider them as part of hispanic

Some of the philipinos have caucasian features to them. I have a good friend who's philipino and if you look at him on first impression he does not look asian at all, but rather he looks like the caucasian/hispanic type with dark skin. When I first met him I thought he was either indian or hispanic. But there are the phillipinos who really do look asian like some of the flip stars : Tony Jaa. Now Tony Jaa adn the rest of the actors/actresses in his movie all do look asian. But they are all considered asians.

Indians ( from India ) and the mideast countries like Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc are also termed Asian, but they like to be more specific and accurate calling themselves southeast asian. In that sense they are asian but if you group them in the science of anthropology, they belong to the "caucasoid" group.

Phillipinos would be grouped into the "mongoloid" group so they would be asian if you want to be politically correct. It doesn't matter if you call them southeast asian or just east asian. They would still be asian under mongoloids, not caucasoids.


Lol, please...Spanish is not even one of the native languages in the Phillipines so why would they be hispanic, some may look hispanic but that is different from actually being hispanic. Saying filipinos are hispanic ethnically is like saying the chinese are french. 90% of filipinos do not speak spanish. The remaining 10% that do speak it works in the Latin American countries like Spain and South America. It's probably even less than 10%. Just pay attention in school if you're still in high school.

some people (haters!) jst want to make the distinction (asians and pacific islanders) because they feel filipinos are not worthy to be asians i.e. belonging in the same grp as chinese/japanese. its an insult. but we're asians and thats it.

a lot of filipinos are confused because so many countries have conquered us, and our politics is shameful and we have this instilled american culture devotion that i find sick ... so its gonna take some time for us to start shouting how proud we are to be "pinoys."

we love cuteness and simplicity over elegance and grandeur... we prefer cuties over latin bombshells or exotic latinas.... we love customizing everything from our cellphones to our pc desktop ... there's a lot of smileys in our email ... we prefer sweetness over latin-lover romance and american foreplay <hehe> ... we appreciate animes and asian dramas like no other ethnicity can ... the hottest guys in our schools are in fact chinese looking men! (chinky eyes, boyish looks, neat and looks cool in pink or yellow or any other girlie color)... well we have our own thing too. but no matter what, we're asians....

i know alot of filipinos that hate being called asian, instead, they want to be called pacific islanders

They are Asians. Nothing more to argue or debate about. They are Asians.
In fact, I have never considered them as anything else but Asians.
Allow me to be shallow for this moment. I think if there's any reasons why they dont want to be considered as Asians, it's because they like to be known of something else that sounds much cooler/different, thus Pacific Islanders =P

And ermm, you can be conquered by alot of different people but the fact is, you're still an Asian. Otherwise, M'sia can also be considered as a non-Asian country since we had so many invaders in our lands

This is a really interesting thread. I never knew they're known as something else other than Asians And despite me saying all that above, it doesnt mean I dont enjoy reading your feedbacks in this (because I just learned something new here) or disrespecting anyone, mmkay

ohh, i never heard of this before (no asian section in SAT). maybe some flip consider/acceptd being called "pacific islanders" because of the SAT thing.



Fyi: it's true that Spanish is not our native language but we have a particular place/city that speaks Spanish because we are under/colonize the Spanish government for 333 years. like me i know some spanish words.
90% who do not speak spanish, i don't think so because our parent knows how to speak spanish because in their time they have spanish subjects but later on they abolished it.



no way! but me, i love everything about me as being asian.

Strange most of my filipinos friends dont consider themselves asian also. We would always get in an arguement over semantics about this. But yeah they favored calling themselves pacific islanders. I mean really the term is asian is really just a label like being called an oriental. If you want to get to the specifics of calling them asian since the country is located in asia then why not call canadians as canadian americans or something. Sounds silly to me but whatever. So more power to them.

even though there are separate sections for asians and filipinos but i styll consider them as asians. I mean when people walk by me and my friends, they dont go o0o hey hes filipino and shes chinese....no they dont do dat. They all seem to sai "o0o hey look at all these asian people here hanging out." Filipino people look as if their asian so they are asian. I dont kno why people dont consider them asian.

not really. for some reasons when someone says "asian" i only think of chinese, japanese, and korean. but i think filipinos are considered asians.

[FONT=Courier] Of course!! WE Filipinos are Asians too!!! ' We don't consider ourselves as pacific islanders... What the!!! Those Filipinos who consider themsleves as pacific islanders are so.. i don't know but perhaps they are not real Filos... I hate theM!!!

Please!!! We are Asians too!! SO consider us to be ONE!!! OKay?? Filipinos are kind, helpful and hospitable.. Just be fair to us.. we aren't doing anything to y'all.. that's all i can say..

This question is irrelevant. It is politically incorrect to categorize Filipinos as Asians or Pacific islanders. As far as I am concerned, it is an error by the individual(s) that created this category system. You cannot say that Filipinos are Asian because they belong to the continent of Asia. Mexico is part of America, but there is no "American' category. They are considered hispanic. Hmmm, strange. Now it is based on ethnic history and background. Argentina is considered hispanic, yet, they have strong Italian influences. Oh wait, doesn't the Philippines have Spanish influence? Yes they do. Why don't they speak Spanish? Read the history. They were taught Spanish for a short period, but that ceased as soon as the officials realized that Filipinos that can understand their language can cause them to lose control over the Filipino people. Pacific Islanders? That is also incorrect because Japan is an island in the Pacific, but they are called Asians. Why is black and white a category? Funny, I don't remember white being an ethnic background, nor do I remember it being a region. Do you know anyone from the continent of white? or maybe the continent of black? I don't think so. Now it comes to genetic catogorization. Most Asians are considered Mongoloid, "blacks" negroid, and "whites" caucasian, etc. Filipinos ar a mixture of several. Why is this categorization wrong too? Because genetic studies show that Japanese people carry more genes similar to Caucasians than the mongoloids of Asia. In common terms, Japanese are more white than Asian. The system is flawed, it needs to be fixed. Period.

Really? Filipinos are asian because? Indians are not because? Please support your answer...

I must say, I never heard any filipino consider themselves as a pacific islander in all my time spent there. When I talk to filipinos here in England I never heard this.

Sure poverty, corruption, crime, prostitution is a problem in phillippines.
There are other countries in the region with this problem too. Many filipinos work in England as maids or nannies and nurses some work in the middle east, I talked to many as I was passing through Qatar. There is a tendency by westerners to look down on the filipino, some other asians do to that to.

Despite all the problems of the philippines, philippines ranks as one of the most happiest nations in the world. That is evident to anybody from the UK who visits philippines. This aspect of pinoys is something to be respected and admired, its one of the things I like about philippines.

filipinos have made a important contribution to Asia and there are many important filipinos who have made a contribution to the world.

And to add to all this, filipinos are Asian, no ifs...no buts....no doubt about it
So being asian is also something you pinoys can be proud of.




No they're asian full stop. The country *is* located in Asia.
So they *are* Asian.


LOL Both are asian it makes me laugh when other Asians dont consider indians to be Asian. Here's a map of Asia

These statements have no substance. What is the basis of these statements? if the argument is based upon geographical and continental categorization, then Filipinos are definately Asian and so are Indians. If it is based on ethnic origin, then Filipinos are considered indian, hispanic, italian, hell... filipinos have been exploited by several different countries... how can that be answered?

gezz. not to sound to racy but it the way filpino look and the way indians look, filpino have lighter tan skin and indians kinda have darket skin tone. Filpino are more near the southwest asain i guess, where im from, and indian is more near the mid-east. I was talking to one of my indian friends and she says that they dont consider themselves asain, they consider to be more of there own, but i guess everone does.


The basis of the statement is that you can go "oh that person is asain" to a filipino just by looking at them, but you cant really do the same to the Indian-region people, because they look similer to the mid-east, this is why i think filip are consider asian and why i think that indians are not. I am not saying that Indian are really not asian, but it just the way of what I consider asain.

okay i dont want to spend this whole board explaning my thought to you, if you have any more question about my statements i guess you can give me a message.

Yes, I already know your thought, you do not have to explain it to me. Your categorization is prejudical. Because someone has "slant eyes" or "yellow skin" etc, they look Asian, therefore they must be Asian. Thats what you are saying. So if I say someone looks like a thief, they dress like a thief, they must be a thief. Is that also correct?

Well why not?

But mexico is considered to be part of central America

Well all asians are mixed in general thats why Asia is so diverse. japanese also carry African genes also.


Blacks. In one study from sub-Saharan Africa that included genotype information, no C677T homozygotes were identified among the 234 individuals tested(51). The C677T allele frequency was 7 percent (51). In another study of 89 sub-Saharan Africans from four tribes, the allele frequency was also 7 percent, but the homozygote frequency was not reported (52). These estimates are relatively low compared to those of other ethnic groups. Among blacks living outside Africa, the allele frequency ranged from 5 percent among Brazilian blacks of African descent to 24 percent among members of one group of African-Americans in the United States (53-58).

Asian. The majority of studies of Asians were done on Japanese people. The C677T allele frequency of 34 percent for the Japanese was derived by pooling data from more than 3,300 persons tested in nine studies (59-67).



http://www.cdc.gov/genomics/hugenet/reviews/MTHFR.htm

you cant say that, than if someone looks asian, are you going to seriously say "your white right?" Look is a big part of what i think is asain or not.
And if someone dress like a thief they probably are a thief why would you wanna dress like a thief?