[slee797]

i remember looking at this one site where it had some pictures of japanese stars when they were younger and a recent picture and they look really different. i mean like, they went from pig noses to straight narrow noses and such. even guys got the double eyelid surgery. do japanese stars get surgery? maybe they do but no one really talks about it... i would like your opinions. thanks!

EDIT:
i found the pictures


http://tvzonedoc.med...64;간.jpg

This post has been edited by slee797: 29 September 2006 - 02:55 PM

[Da_ENTP]

yea, gackt had surgery and japan is leading in surgery currently, i believe. in 1998 it was korea though.

[Michelle.]

Wow... those are some big differences after plastic surgery...
They all look soo different~
But ya, Japanese stars get plastic surgery.
Yup Jap stars are leading in plastic surgery and b4 it was Korea.

[Sakuraso]

Most celebrities get some plastic surgery done - when you're in the magazines and newspapers so often, if you're not perfect, you pretty much get crucified...

If they're not fully comfortable with the way they look, and they have the money, go for it... especially if they're in an industry where their looks get judged so much.


although I'd like to point out that it's slightly unfair to compare photos of a star from 10 years before, with a near recent live picture and a magazine shot... People change naturally, and in photoshoots they get airbrushed like woah. So even if plastic surgery was done, it' snot to the extent people imagine... it's just the comparison of very different photos.


But yes, pretty much all stars get plastic surgery...

[Kurosagi]

It appears that most get surgery to make their eyes bigger--to the point of being alien-like. Just look at Ayumi Hamasaki. I read somewhere she's had 30-40 surgeries in all. She no longer looks human. Another idol whose pic is not shown in that collage is Horikita Maki. I always thought her eyes were too wide and round to be real and sure enough, I found a before/after photo.



Male idols are not exempt:

[ana91_nishi]

Kurosagi, on Oct 16 2006 5 42 AM, said:

It appears that most get surgery to make their eyes bigger--to the point of being alien-like. Just look at Ayumi Hamasaki. I read somewhere she's had 30-40 surgeries in all. She no longer looks human. Another idol whose pic is not shown in that collage is Horikita Maki. I always thought her eyes were too wide and round to be real and sure enough, I found a before/after photo.



Male idols are not exempt:

i cant believe tat they did surgery..at first i doesnt noe tat kame did surgery..kame did?
if he does'nt i will b shock..from a nerd like tat he can bcum a sexy,hot,cute,guy....

[ayumi82]

Hmm... if for some of them, its obvious they have had plastic surgeries (Gackt, Ayumi Hamasaki...), for some others, i have biggo doubts... On those pics, some are 13 years old on the first, and are in their twenties (or more) on the second, so its normal they changed in 10 years or more Furthermore, make up, light and photoshop do some miracles on pics... So, for example, i'm almost sure Hideaki Takizawa has never had plastic surgery on his nose (like the pics could make us imagine)... and to prove what i'm saying, two pics of him... one when he was around 12-13 and the other from this year, where he is 24 years old... And except 10 years more and a new haircut, there is absolutely no differences...

[poochompoo]

well i'm not so sure about female idol, so i don't want to comment about it.

as JE's follower, i do not think anyone in JE do plastic surgery. and no, i'm not a bias!
looking through these comparision stills over here amazed me! people who match the 'before' and 'after' are clever. well i do not need to give a credit but it might shake my believe if i'm not into johnny's boys.
what i can see is if you've seen Johnny boys since they were chibis, you wouldn't have doubt they do plastic
surgery or not.

This post has been edited by poochompoo: 18 October 2006 - 10:58 PM

[musical*box]

well, this is what i think.. part of it is the true lah... japanese and korean cares mostly about their looks... and it is firstly their looks and then their quailfication that got them their jobs or whatever crap... having plastics surgery is very very common in korea and japan, bacisally, in most developed countries... so, no big deal. you can go for plastics surgery, you can afford, why not?
and having plastics surgery is very cheap in korea. and it's good too, looks natural i mean... my cousin says one. she had her nose done...

[AhRe~]

yeeaaa for works of man eh.
I think that even if we know that they had touched up on their face, we still like them. they are and have become attractive, right????

[morphodoll]

i know gackt and ayu made plastic surgery..but JE boys? i dunno but never heard of it(really?! )
but, surely, they all look different...

[iLovE_mOkOmiChi]

so those guys went through the knife huh....

i think its okay!! imagine if kame, or jin, or even takuya didnt...

WHO WILL WORSHIP THEM!?

so should really be thankful they got good results... aside from getting lotsa fans

anyway... since this topic has come out... im just wondering if... uhm... hayami mokomichi-san did to?!....

im pretty sure he didnt!!

[!stevie_G!]

duh! Tetsu plastic surgery?? lol!!~

I wouldnt believe it until he said so.
Why the hell Tetsu needs a plastic surgery??
he's actually irritated of the fangirls who praise him bcoz he's cute rather than how he works on his bass.

duh!!
Trying to compare an old pic to the not so recent one.

Kid pictures to the adult one.
Obviously kids grow up.

Gackt's well known anyway.

[lovebum4life]

ayumi82, on Oct 18 2006 12 41 PM, said:

Hmm... if for some of them, its obvious they have had plastic surgeries (Gackt, Ayumi Hamasaki...), for some others, i have biggo doubts... On those pics, some are 13 years old on the first, and are in their twenties (or more) on the second, so its normal they changed in 10 years or more Furthermore, make up, light and photoshop do some miracles on pics... So, for example, i'm almost sure Hideaki Takizawa has never had plastic surgery on his nose (like the pics could make us imagine)... and to prove what i'm saying, two pics of him... one when he was around 12-13 and the other from this year, where he is 24 years old... And except 10 years more and a new haircut, there is absolutely no differences...

Thank you for the proof ayumi82! I know for sure that Takki hasn't had any nose surgery or surgery in general. There's clip of that kid growing up and he looks the same from when he was a kid to when he was older.

About Gackt...everyone know about that one.

[Sakuraso]

I think I need to step in and defend Gackt XD; Everyone's ganging up on him XD;

If he has had surgery, then it wasn't very much.

The photo everyone compares him to, is a high school photo. Since then, he has lost a lot of weight, even if you compare it to his days in Malice Mizer, he's thinner than in school, but rounder than now.

Comparing then and now is a bit unfair, he's lost weight and matured... He's 33, of course he's changed since his teenage years.

Any surgery was minute... Even his eyes, there's not that big, not like some other stars...

So yeah... stop ganging up on him people XD; Stop making out that he's had a face transplant or something XD;

[Simplyconfused]

^ haha I agree! I dont think Gackt did dat much compared to the other stars!

[Midnight.Fantasy]

realli its not fair to compare reallly young picture to recent ones.
people grow and people CHANGE as they mature. Seriously i dont think Kame or Jin had any plastic surgery. I no jin didnt anyway because they still have the same facial feature and you can still tell its them. There are no major differences. If you think they had surgery becoz of their eyes then i can tell you that eyes DO get bigger because it happened to me.

Yer and i also agree that people shouldnt really judge idols according to their looks too much. but i do admit that if i know an idol has had surgery my respect for them does drop a little. But it would never happen to Jin because i NO that he hasnt had surgery

[ivyshin]

in my opinio, i believe its not enough too based it all on pictures because OMG we are in a veyr very hi-tech world where computers can do gazillions of stuff, we now have robots to assist us and stuff!!! right? i mean, what a simple photoshop can do to change one's nose on the pic? or remove blemishes or pimples or wrinkles? correct? and talk about make-up, its just so easy to look as if you got the narrowest nose bridge on tv or pic. although it is true not only in japan but almost all over mother earth, surgery is very popular; nose-lift, sex-change, tooth-implant, hair-implant, face-lift, blah blah blah. but for these artist that you just showed, let me ask this... have you seen them in person? and do they have those big round eyes that is 3/4 the difference of how they look before? or how about the nose? is it half narrower than they usually look like? we should give these guys the benefit of the doubt right? look at them in person first and not only in pictures or television because these stuff can trick us so easy. correct?? on the other hand, i think its also true especially with eyes because i heard and read that japanese really would love to have big and round eyes. hhmmm... if they really did, well, we wouldnt be drooling over these guys if they are not that HOT. and if they did had surgery, thanks to that surgery they became so hot. weheheheheh

This post has been edited by ivyshin: 06 November 2006 - 03:03 PM

[sexypenguins]

I seriously do not think that Horikita Maki did surgery. The before and after picture that was shown was when she was so young. As many people has said, people change as they grow up. And I'm pretty sure that she did not have surgery

And I don't think that the JE boys did surgery too :x

[slee797]

sexypenguins, on Nov 7 2006 2 10 PM, said:

I seriously do not think that Horikita Maki did surgery. The before and after picture that was shown was when she was so young. As many people has said, people change as they grow up. And I'm pretty sure that she did not have surgery

And I don't think that the JE boys did surgery too :x

true, people do change as they grow up. but her eyes seem to alienish and different from when she was younger. her eyes weren't that long. i think she may have cut her eyes to make her eyes bigger.

[elenishi]

not for akame! they didnt do any surgery okies!!!
Their major features are still there! we can recognise!!
im pretty sure ayumi did alot of times...
yah those pics used to compare were like
when they are super duper young VS when they have grown up
of cos their facial features change right??
it's jus not fairrr to say JE boys did that becos of jus those picss

[JinForWin]

NO.

Lol this topic always gets me heated up...always

No one in JE did facial surgery of any kind except, but maybe teeth correction or whatnot etc.......

FIRST of all people have watched the juniors since they were little on TV...wouldn't they notice one day if suddenly the boys looked really different? i mean ok Johnnys is like makeover wonder...but still....in order for the boys to have surgery they wouldve had to have by the time they were around 14-15...you really seriously cannot suggest a 14 year old would get plastic surgery....



kame when he wasn't THAT young but its not wat he is today
this kid is totally kawaii hahahaha
plasitc surgery? duuude look how young he is

anyways yeah the picture comaparisons...people like to pick the ugliest picture ever and then the most pretty and compare it
if i compared my old pictures to one of my new ones people would probably say plastic surgey too....its just called GORWING UP....

and more koreans do it than jp

edit----
i take it all back.all those comparisons are like...NOTHING
they look exactly the same its just their faces aren't as round....
duhh cuz ur face gets less babyish
rawr lol...definately not takki nor mocomichi either
kame is harder to argue but hes not a fool

This post has been edited by Akanichee: 10 November 2006 - 10:39 PM

[711]

I dont think maki got surgery.. i mean i think it's actually her glasses that made her eye loooks weird.. it depends on ur degree... LOL i am 500... when ur 400 and above .. ur glasses magnifies ur eyes... instead of making it bigger.. it makes it kinda weird shape ish..and her eyes arrent too around to be real.. my sister has eyes like that

[Aspire]

did otsuka ai do any? cos i found a magazine and inside they showed some pics of her when she was young and compared to those she taken now... i did see some changes on her face like her chin and eyes....

[slee797]

711, on Nov 10 2006 10 26 PM, said:

I dont think maki got surgery.. i mean i think it's actually her glasses that made her eye loooks weird.. it depends on ur degree... LOL i am 500... when ur 400 and above .. ur glasses magnifies ur eyes... instead of making it bigger.. it makes it kinda weird shape ish..and her eyes arrent too around to be real.. my sister has eyes like that

people can have eyes like that, but your eyes won't suddenly get longer (sideways) as your grow older. my eyes became rounder as i grew older but it didn't become long.

less korean stars get plastic surgery than people think. it's just koreans tend to be very critical of eachother. there's something called anti-fan and it's someone who hates a particular celebrity. a lot of japanese and chinese stand by their celebrities. like zhang ziyi and even gong li. they had at least their eyes done and many think that they are natural beauties.

[nichole-aka-chun]

not really sure they got surgery or not, but for sure is their make up really true/

[laffinxD]

Holy I didn't know zhang ziyi and gong li both had surgeries I guess there aren't many natural beauties in asia?

[Galilei]

slee797, on Nov 13 2006 6 38 AM, said:

people can have eyes like that, but your eyes won't suddenly get longer (sideways) as your grow older. my eyes became rounder as i grew older but it didn't become long.

less korean stars get plastic surgery than people think. it's just koreans tend to be very critical of eachother. there's something called anti-fan and it's someone who hates a particular celebrity. a lot of japanese and chinese stand by their celebrities. like zhang ziyi and even gong li. they had at least their eyes done and many think that they are natural beauties.

Please don't go and make accusations without knowing the truth. Zhang Ziyi never had any plastic surgeries done. If you look at her pictures from elementary school, she already has double eyelids. To me, Zhang Ziyi isn't even all that beautiful, she's incomparable to Fan BingBing, a natural beauty.

This post has been edited by Galilei: 03 December 2006 - 04:24 AM

[nanshi]

We are going off topic! JAPANESE Entertainment, remember? No need to bring up Chinese celebs. If you want to battle it out... I suggest you go to the Gossip Cafe... or somewhere else.

Now, I'm fairly unbiased (being not a huge fan of Japanese Entertainment)... so I just want to point out that there are a LOT of ways one can change his/her appearance without going under the knife. And I'm sure Japanese people are the originator of them all.

From what I can see... some of them have lost weight. Others seem to have 'taped' their eyelids (to give them a double-eyelid effect)... and the important thing to note here is that AFTER you have taped your eyelids for awhile (I think it's like consistently taping them for 6months to one year)... your eyelids will actually start to naturally take on a double-eyelid fold without the taping... I think that's what I see most present in the majority of the males in the pictures that are posted above. There are also those (freaky) contact lenses that make your eyes appear bigger and rounder and shinier by simply making your iris look bigger... It's weird, but trust me, it works (I've photoshopped my eyes before... and yeah, they do look bigger)... But I think the big thing I see is weight-loss and some AWESOME! skin treatments. At least for the males in one of the collages up there... for most of the women, there are subtle changes (especially with the eyes).

Then there's also this (funky) device that I heard that is like a pair of glasses, but the nosepiece actually massages the bridge of your nose to make it "higher." Which is weird, but hey! it could work, right?

*nanshi giggles at the fact that Gackt had a 'face transplant'...!

And no, I don't think Gackt had a face transplant. Instead, I think he had one too many skin-whitening treatments, some excellent contact lenses, and a employs some marvelous hair and makeup skills. His nose is 'rare,' but definitely can be found in Japanese society. And either he has had facelifts (I don't think so), or he has done some major damage to his skin that causes it to look so tight around his mouth, especially when he laughs. Besides, I think he has the resources to find a good plastic surgeon that can make him appear like he hasn't had plastic surgery....

[DreamingOfVann]

What's with all of the surgery? No one will ever look perfect so is it really neccessary to keep trying? What's wrong with Japanese celebs (and other celebs, in fact) showing their fans that they have some flaws? Even the U.S. doesn't seem so shallow now...

Wider eyes, skin treatments to look paler, nose-jobs...sounds like they're trying to look like...Caucasian (white) people...

[- Ciberqueen -]

DreamingOfVann, on Dec 23 2006 4 26 AM, said:

What's with all of the surgery? No one will ever look perfect so is it really neccessary to keep trying? What's wrong with Japanese celebs (and other celebs, in fact) showing their fans that they have some flaws? Even the U.S. doesn't seem so shallow now...

Wider eyes, skin treatments to look paler, nose-jobs...sounds like they're trying to look like...Caucasian (white) people...

100% agree!!!!!

OMG Ayumi Hamasaki for example, WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE EYES NOW?¿?¿ superweird, it´s like a doll or something.

[bluebluebear]

Japanese female actress most likely have plastic surgery, beauty is always important I think especially the eyes and the nose. So it doesn't really matter most don't seem to have natural looks anymore.
BUT Tackey, I don't think so,he's gone for surgery. I've seen his J.E timeline photo collection, meaning showing he and tsubasa's pics from age 4 to now, and he's exactly the same! Though I can't be sure about KAME. No offence but he looks flawless at most times.

[mzdeviL]

I think japanese female artists tend to get plastic surgery more than the males...the most popular is to make their eyes bigger, cuz they believe bigger eyes make them cuter...'cute' is the trend for females in japan...surgery jobs are more visible on the faces of japanese females...even though alot of people think that japanese males look really gay (feminine) as signs that they've had plastic surgery, but some males just naturally look that way.

I'm not sure about the guys though...I have heard that some male artists do get plastic surgery (mainly to get double eyelids), but not all of them...I think it's just that in the males case, especially for those 'cool' type of guys whom are into rock, they're more obsessed with makeup and beauty; pampering themselves, getting groovy haircuts, dye their hair with different colors, even getting their nails done!

Overall, I think plastic surgery is more popular among females than with males.

This post has been edited by dark@ngeL: 18 February 2007 - 01:02 PM

[cellwasabi]

Akanichee, on Nov 10 2006 10 37 PM, said:

NO.

Lol this topic always gets me heated up...always

No one in JE did facial surgery of any kind except, but maybe teeth correction or whatnot etc.......

FIRST of all people have watched the juniors since they were little on TV...wouldn't they notice one day if suddenly the boys looked really different? i mean ok Johnnys is like makeover wonder...but still....in order for the boys to have surgery they wouldve had to have by the time they were around 14-15...you really seriously cannot suggest a 14 year old would get plastic surgery....



kame when he wasn't THAT young but its not wat he is today
this kid is totally kawaii hahahaha
plasitc surgery? duuude look how young he is


edit----
i take it all back.all those comparisons are like...NOTHING
they look exactly the same its just their faces aren't as round....
duhh cuz ur face gets less babyish
rawr lol...definately not takki nor mocomichi either
kame is harder to argue but hes not a fool

As much as I like Japanese boys, if you only saw the pictures I saw....
I always thought Japanese boys are natural.. but after seeing the before pictures, I changed my mind.


Kame did surgeries. his eyes and nose.
















Arashi with Surgery



Nishikido Ryo







Kimura Takuya

This post has been edited by cellwasabi: 10 March 2007 - 03:47 AM

[Kazemi]

I don't think Arashi's Ninomiya Kazunari had surgery. He hasn't changed much from what I remember. :]

[melia1]

^ I agree about Nino, he seems to look the same no matter how old he gets, pretty much the same haircut too XD

I don't think JE does besides braces (where *poof* teeth are suddenly straight and pretty) Because if they had surgery, they would have had to be out of sight for a while while the surgery heals, but they're usually out there promoting/doing concerts/tv shows, so it would be hard to get around all their committments.

[I Love Azn Guys]

i guess so or some is just by tiredness(i think) so maybe they lose wieght that way or becus the way they eat

[Sukachu]

I think some really did have surgery.
Wow, Mai Kuraki changed a lot.

I don't think some did plastic surgery, the before and after pics almost look like the same.

[cellwasabi]

This post has been edited by cellwasabi: 13 March 2007 - 09:54 PM