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#1 mv_288

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 04:55 AM



Caption: Tang Wei and Tony Leung's love scenes in "Lust, Caution" push sexuality limits.

Tony Leung Chiu Wai's full nudity in movie, "Lust, Caution" 《色,戒》has become the hottest topic in Hong Kong entertainment lately. The film won the top Golden Lion Award at the Venice Film Festival, generated good word-of-mouth, and gained good box office results in Asia.

However, the public discussion could not stray away from the explicit love scenes between Tony Leung and female lead, Tang Wei. Director, Ang Lee, once said, "Lust is also a part of art."

So how does the public opinion perceive Tony Leung's nudity in the film? Was it a necessary part of the script? Or was it only demanded by Ang Lee to increase the media's attention? If the Director for "Lust, Caution" were Wong Jing instead, then would the film become pornographic?

The Hong Kong premiere of "Lust, Caution" was a star-studded event, including the attendance of Chow Yun Fat, Zhang Ziyi and other international stars. Chow Yun Fat gave the film a 99.9 score, while other guest viewers gave it a 100 score. Just watching Tony Leung and Tang Wei's passionate scenes were fulfilling enough!

Director, Ang Lee, noted that he originally thought of casting Zhang Ziyi as the female lead in "Lust, Caution." However, when Tang Wei, auditioned for the role, Ang Lee was attracted by her ordinary looks. He felt Tang Wei was very suitable for the role.

Apparently the whole world focused on Tony Leung's private parts or how intensely passionate his bed scenes were with Tang Wei. Many female movie viewers watched the movie to satisfy their curiosity about Tony's nudity. Perhaps this was also one way to sneak a peak at naked celebrity bodies?

"Lust, Caution" is a period spy thriller that takes place in World War II China. Was the film sexually gratuitous or artistic in nature? Over 50 people were polled and the following results were found:

* 44% of respondents said that Tony Leung's exposure of his private parts was a publicity tactic employed by the film company. They felt Tony's nudity was unnecessary.

* 38% of respondents felt that "Lust, Caution" warranted artistic merit. They felt that Tony's nudity was a suitable artistic sacrifice for the film.

* 28% of respondents did not find Tang Wei to be beautiful. But they found her to possess a unique air about her. Acting counted more than looks and audiences found her more suitable for the role rather than Zhang Ziyi.

*88% of respondents said that Director Wong Jing's movies were cheap and pornographic. However, Ang Lee's movies were artistic and his sex scenes were necessary for the film. Perhaps there is only a fine line between being cheap or artistic!

Ticket sales for "Lust, Caution" in Hong Kong have topped $3.66 million (HKD) since its opening earlier this week. The movie was shown at 60 theater screens and became the top-seller during the Mid-Autumn Festival holiday week and broke a historical records as one of the strongest box office openings in September.

Box office sales have been equally strong in Taiwan. Since "Lust, Caution" opened on September 26th, box office sales have surpassed $8.75 million (HKD).

The following few female viewers expressed their intention on whether they will be watching "Lust, Caution:"

Ms. Yue: "A lead actress doesn't have to be beautiful. As long as she can act, that is fine. However I want to watch this film mainly because of Tony Leung. I believe this will be a good film."

Ms. Lee: "Ang Lee is already a well-known brand. On the other hand, Wong Jing is cheap. I am interested in this film because of the whole story. I am not seeing it because of the love scenes."

Mr. Wong: "I am not interested in watching 'Lust, Caution!' There are no CGI scenes, no action scenes. I'll just wait for the DVD!"

Ms. Lui: "This movie has a too serious air about it. I am interested in watching lighter comedies. Although Tony Leung may have a breakthrough performance in this movie, I am not interested in watching it."

Source: Wenweipo, the Sun, Mingp
Credit:Jayne

#2 Lazaruk899

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 05:55 AM

Hmm very interesting... not sure if tony's decision was a good one. Would something like this merit respect or loss of respect for him? Hopefully they have an editted version without the revealing parts T_T

Edited by Lazaruk899, 30 September 2007 - 05:56 AM.


#3 tsiy

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 06:54 AM

All the write ups intensifies my interest on this film. I hope it will be shown in my country.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 06:57 AM

did this movie really show Tony Leung's "private part?" woah.... yeah i agreed too if Wong Jing were to shoot this movie, it will become porno :D

Edited by ex-Humorboyâ„¢, 30 September 2007 - 06:57 AM.


#5 ahbiao57

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:02 AM

I think Tony Leung is an incredible actor and I will support him no matter what kinds of movies he makes, whether or not he is naked, and regardless of the language, director, costars, location or box office success of his films. Tony is phenomenal no matter what he does.

Tony Leung RULES.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:25 AM

omg! he showed his private parts. I don't think I'll ever be able to look at him the same way again after watching this movie....haha. I really don't wanna see it because he's one of my favorite hong kong actors, and that's just too much. I hope the decision was actually one of "artistic merit."

#7 ht5

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:35 AM

mmm tony leungs a really dedicated actor! and i think it woulda been better with zhang ziyi in it

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:36 AM

wow, i realy didn't expect tony to go thru with a nude scene. but all big actors take risks. and only the great actors would be willing to go through with it to show how great they are.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 08:02 AM

QUOTE (valo @ Sep 30 2007 7 36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wow, i realy didn't expect tony to go thru with a nude scene. but all big actors take risks. and only the great actors would be willing to go through with it to show how great they are.


Just because you do a nude scene, that doesn't take the credibility of an actor/actress.

But yeah, for sure Tony Leung is a legendary actor. He's superb.

#10 tony_y2k5

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 10:34 AM

gosh, tony is nude in this movie? no wonder females and audiences are flocking themselves to see this movie. This was a very smart move. I mean who wouldn't pay to see Tony Leung naked?

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 12:31 PM

from the media, the public Ang Lee is always filming an art movie while wong jing is always on porno. is a perception and can never be change from the public.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 01:40 PM

Another scratch on the head...... haha!!! tony is doing naked scenes. so is this his first time really showing his private area!!! Theres gonna be pages of news about this movie and tony!!

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 04:29 PM

Is it actually him in the nude scenes? I heard there were a lot of body doubles...

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 08:23 PM

Wow full nudity in a Chinese film... I'd never expect to see that happening. Maybe Tony's proud of his package?

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 09:56 PM

O.O er.. it reveals full parts? i thought it was only glance of the full girl body..
umm..i wonder if they will edit the movie when it release in US O.o

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 12:44 AM

sound interesting, hihi but not interesting in Tony's Part. ...

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 04:17 AM

The film sounds very interesting. I can't wait for the release in the US.

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 05:47 AM

Wong Jin's movies are always crappy and he makes the actresses look like bimbos, that's why he'll never reach Ang Lee's merits.

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 06:04 AM

Really surprised tht Tony Leung will do a full nutidy in the name of art....But wonder whether will it bring him more bad than good?

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 07:18 AM

QUOTE (shortie_maggie @ Sep 30 2007 12 23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow full nudity in a Chinese film... I'd never expect to see that happening. Maybe Tony's proud of his package?



:buahaha :buahaha hmm... bet though Andy Lau will beat him to it-- :shocked: :shocked: now, if it's Andy???? :whistle :whistle all I can say is-- :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

anyhow, what's the big deal????? it's been only a hop & skip before Tony went this route with his sort of films.

PS wong Jing does not count.. :tricky:

#21 fobster #1

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 07:50 AM

Although I'm hesitant about the deicison to show Tony's private parts. I'll trust his judgment since he always produces great movies and tell a good story. I'll just close my eyes when that part comes on.

#22 bemypal_hk

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:18 AM

Wong Jing is on the bottom of a scale in HK and Ang lee is a top reknown director of the world. Comparing Wong with Lee is a great insult to Ang lee. The movie has a deep inner meaning with great thought that used many artistic techniques and themes.

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:37 AM

erm.. controversial opinions? it depends very much on the audiences. i would rather watch the movie first before commenting it .. anyway its ang lee's movie! it should be a good movie coz of his reputation!

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE (fobster #1 @ Sep 30 2007 11 50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Although I'm hesitant about the deicison to show Tony's private parts. I'll trust his judgment since he always produces great movies and tell a good story. I'll just close my eyes when that part comes on.

Tony Leung does not 'produce' movies-- he only 'acts' in them. He's an interpreter of other's people's creative vision-- the brush stroke-- the canvas is the writer-- the director-- THE CREATOR. THE PRODUCER-- IS THE PRODUCER-- THE MONEY BAGS.

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 03:59 PM

QUOTE (bemypal_hk @ Oct 1 2007 3 18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wong Jing is on the bottom of a scale in HK and Ang lee is a top reknown director of the world. Comparing Wong with Lee is a great insult to Ang lee. The movie has a deep inner meaning with great thought that used many artistic techniques and themes.

Meh, everyone has their part... Wong Jing brought a lot of laughs to HK people. There is no need to compare the two anyways since as directors they both have different purposes. And you never know, maybe without Wong Jing, you wouldn't see some of your favorite actors you see today :whistle

#26 vampy

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 05:18 AM

in Taiwan & US, they show the full version. but for other places, due to censorship, its not shown.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 05:22 AM

whoaaaaaa
tony porno T-T
but ang lee, it should be good
but i won't watch this ><

#28 vampy

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 05:35 AM

QUOTE (chanel @ Oct 1 2007 6 04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really surprised tht Tony Leung will do a full nutidy in the name of art....But wonder whether will it bring him more bad than good?


it wont harm Tony as he's already such an acknowledged & award winning actor. no-one ever dispute that Tony is an awesome actor & that he dont need to use other ways to get notice.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:15 AM

Hmmmm... I want to watch it because I am a fan of Tony Leung. Not really a fan of Ang Lee. But the way they are marketing the film is more into the whole "artistic-sex" scene it makes me wonder if this is the only thing that is going on in the film. Oh well, with the title "Lust, Caution" I should not be surprised.

So they cut out some scenes.... I got it from here.

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Sources who have seen the film said it contains at least three scenes -- one a long montage -- featuring multiple acts of aggressive sexual activity in different positions. There's no full-frontal male nudity (the source of some NC-17 rulings when shown in sex scenes), but male-on-female oral sex, non-S&M restraints and several nontraditional sexual positions are depicted, conveying the aggression and emotional conflict between the main characters.


I am kind of hesitant watching it now as much as I love Tony Leung. I survived not watching Brokeback Mountain no matter how people commended it.

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 06:24 AM

i think its only nude...and not private part! theres no way there can be private part shown in the movie if it wants to pass thru any censorship in any countries!

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 09:04 AM

QUOTE (NashtyDirk @ Oct 2 2007 8 15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmmm... I want to watch it because I am a fan of Tony Leung. Not really a fan of Ang Lee. But the way they are marketing the film is more into the whole "artistic-sex" scene it makes me wonder if this is the only thing that is going on in the film. Oh well, with the title "Lust, Caution" I should not be surprised.

So they cut out some scenes.... I got it from here.
I am kind of hesitant watching it now as much as I love Tony Leung. I survived not watching Brokeback Mountain no matter how people commended it.


a lot of ppl are saying that this movie is very good, not bcos of the sex scenes. its the moving aspects in the story of Wang Jia Zhi (Tang Wei's character) & Mr Yee (Tony Leung's character), how they fell for each other unwillingly during the tumultous wartime , how they slowly let their guards down & the tragic ending.

in the movie, Tang Wei's character is a sad one, she's an orphan , sacrificed by her bf (played by Wang Lee Hong) for his ideal of patriotism by asking her to seduce Mr Yee to create opportunites to assassinate him. its like a betryal of their love in that her bf places more importance on patriotism than their love. in order to achieve this, her bf arranged for another more sexually experienced friend to teach her abt sex by having sex with her, thereby losing her virginity to a man she's not in love with. when she fell in love with Mr Yee & he with her, it ended up with him executing her for being an assassin.

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 07:19 PM

i don't think it's full nudity....was spoiled by the above post <_<

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 12:42 AM

To pass the censorship laws in HK, I don't think full frontal is allowed. Bare bottom maybe, but probably not full frontal.
I don't see how just because it's an "artistic" film nudity is not a big deal. Nudity is completely not necessary, it's only done so that
1. The film gets more hype and popularity
and
2. The actors get a hefty sum for it.

I personally don't think it is such a risk for Tony because he has already established himself as one of the greatest actors in HK cinema history, not much would affect that.