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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:33 AM

[size=3][b]Show Luo ZhiXiang (XiaoZhu) and Wang LeeHom Battle Over the Music Charts-- "Saliva War" Ensues[/b][/size]
Date: January 5, 2009
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In a sequel to last year's "saliva war" between Double J (Jay Chou JieLun and Jolin Tsai YiLin)-- a verbal dispute over allegedly "fixed" record sales-- a new case of suspected "fixed" record sales (this time, between Wang LeeHom and Show Luo ZhiXiang) has cropped up. The new year has barely begun!

[b]Wang LeeHom: The Album Sales List Doesn't Have Credibility[/b]

Show (XiaoZhu) celebrated the "Champion Sales" of his 潮男正傳/Trendy Man yesterday; when asked how he felt about defeating Wang LeeHom, Show replied, "I only compare with myself!" Unexpectedly, however, LeeHom's record company, Sony released a statement aimed at the record sales "battle." They implied that they suspected Show's agency of buying and fixing the charts.

In their statement, Sony said, "Everyone in the entertainment circle knows that, when artists under a certain famous agency release albums, [the agency] will stop at nothing to fix the charts and come in first. We are most clear that Wang LeeHom's sales volume is actually number one." LeeHom then said, "My boss, 崔震東 Cui ZhenDong, told me that the credibility of any of these album sales list is not enough and that I don't need to pay too much attention to them."

[b]Agent: Show's Album Is Number One-- That's the Truth[/b]

Sony's provocative statement forced Show's agency to make a reply: "In all of the substance channels (in other words, not on-line) and in digital cellphone ringtones, etc., in 10 different lists, Show is number one. At each one of his autograph events, he signs over 5000 copies of his album. In the matter of his album being number one, the facts speak for themselves-- they speak louder than words. We will continue to work hard; we won't look for any excuses." Show shares his agency's position; he feels that an album's position on the charts is not important. Instead, it is the quality of the music and the hard work and effort of the artist that merits discussion.

On the whole, Show's lively dance style and LeeHom's emotional, expressive rock both have their own charm and enchantment and, subsequently, their own group of fans. It's not necessary to lose one's temper over the music charts. Yesterday, Show donated over $80,000 NTD to the 家扶中心 Christian Children's Fund; Wang LeeHom continues his love and care for children in need-- this is actually the best example of an "idol."

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Translator's Comments: Before people bash-- LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR (AGAIN): According to this article, it was SONY that accused "them" of fixing the charts, NOT LeeHom.

Hmm... I don't really know what to say. I was also kind of surprised by the charts-- not so much that Show is first (I know full well that he is really popular), but that there was such a HUGE difference in their sales percentages: Show at 32.32% of sales and LeeHom coming in at only 12.82%. That seems sort of o_O to me.

What IS unfair is that there can even be a suspicion of fixed charts. I can't say that I'm fully persuaded either way (that it was fixed or that it wasn't fixed... I personally think there's a possibility of either), but... it's NOT fair to either Show or LeeHom. IF the charts were fixed, Show himself didn't have anything to do with it. So, true or not, Show himself must feel slightly disappointed/unhappy that people are doubting him in this way. As for LeeHom, it's obviously not fair to him... he worked so hard on this album, participating in every aspect of it... it's truly his baby. It's not fair that a "shadow" of doubt follows HIM over the charts, either. It really sucks that this struggle between record companies and talent agencies has put two good friends into this position :(

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:42 AM

hmm. i dunno what to say.
i think show actually deserved this.
i mean this album was really good. im was never a fan of his, and to be honest, i hated his recent album, that came out last year i think?
i really like this one though.

and i have to say i was kinda disappointed in wang lee homs album.
i didnt really like the songs except heartbeat.

but then the sale percentage is kinda off, considering wang lee hom is so popular.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:43 AM

haha honestly i think both of them already have enough confidence in themselves to not really let the sales numbers affect them...although i dont really care about show i know he is quite popular so its not surprising that his album sold well...and as for leehom i think hes already well recognized as a musical genius to the point that he doesnt really need numbers to prove himself

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:53 AM

well in my personal opinion, show's album was wayyyy better than lee hom's anyway lol

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:53 AM

THATS B.S! I can't believe Sony is being such a sore loser! Stopping at no excuse just so they look better. Wake up, honey, you lose. Just take it like a man and deal with it. Why can't he work a little harder to improve his next sales record. If Gold Typhoon really wanted to make up numbers, then why don't they just say 99.9 percent? It is so unbelievable the things companies would do. The same thing is, Show fans actually bought the CD's with their money, so in Sony's eyes, these people are invisible numbers. I am so glad Show didn't respond with anything aggressive or offensive. Show's company was nice enough to promote Leehom's new album and this is the thanks they get? This is almost disgusting.

[quote name='weedpeach' post='5733380' date='Jan 5 2009 6 42 PM']hmm. i dunno what to say.
i think show actually deserved this.
i mean this album was really good. im was never a fan of his, and to be honest, i hated his recent album, that came out last year i think?
i really like this one though.

and i have to say i was kinda disappointed in wang lee homs album.
i didnt really like the songs except heartbeat.

but then the sale percentage is kinda off, considering wang lee hom is so popular.[/quote]
Leehom is very popular. But Show has been doing really well lately. Show Luo has beaten Leehom at many commercial offers as well as awards. I don't know what kind of twisted theory that is. Just because you didn't like his last album, he should be blamed for this? Isn't he innocent until proven guity?

Edited by Felicitationx3, 06 January 2009 - 12:55 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:59 AM

i dont think wither leehom or shiow really cares abt the chart placements, its more of the company's interests. i think leehom and show js cares abt how much ppl like their music =]

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:03 AM

Sigh, i bet its just another news to fire up the media again.
Don't sweat it.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:12 AM

Okay, I'm not much of a Show fan, his acting and singing are okay but like someone said earlier, I think Show's sales are higher because his album is relatively and subjectively better in my opinion. Lee Hom's new genre isn't working too well; his songs in this album besides like 3 songs lack a certain catchy touch, it's like forced or something. As for Show, this album, I've noticed that he has improved and his songs are so catchy, it's hard to ignore thus I actually bought Show's album over Lee Hom's and if not for Lee Hom's pretty photos, I wouldn't even plan on buying it later either. Sorry, that's the truth.

I know that Lee Hom has worked very hard on this album thus taking this long but his songs just don't interest me at all in this album. I think Sony shouldn't accuse without evidence.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:16 AM

Seriously, I bet I care more about the album charts more than EMI & Sony, LOL. I'm a huge Leehom fan & I thought he was going to be number one, so when I saw that Show was first, I almost died from a heart attack. In my opinion, I think Leehom's album is much better. More personal, better songs (great variety) and OBVIOUSLY, a better voice (no one argue to me about this, it's a fact).

And Leehom ALWAYS does well with his albums, he usually sells about one million in one week. Anyways, he hasn't been promoting it that much (too busy filming MVs). We'll see how the END results are. I believe Leehom will do better.

Wow, I sound like such a Show hater, but I'm not.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:17 AM

my opinion is that show's album is better.. yea agree with weedpeach, i only liked the song heartbeat

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:50 AM

im just expressing my feelings...to SONY. not necessary to anyone
i just want it to make it clear.

[u]ITS NOT ABOUT THE SALES THAT MATTER REALLY..ANYMORE AT LEAST. ITS THE COMMENTS THAT SONY MADE THAT MADE US PISSED! [/u] [b]WE WANT THE RESPECT THAT WE DESERVE..AND WE WANT SHOW TO BE RESPECTED AS WELL![/b]

IF Sony believes that the charts are fixed..then they must have had fixed charts for Rainie too. For what I kno of, RAINIE YANG is UNDER the SAME company. They sacrificed Rainie basically for making these nonsense comments.

THE REASON WHY SHOW'S HAVING SUCH HIGH SALES IS BECAUSE, ALL OF HIS FANS...ARE SUGGESTED...TO BUY ALBUMS OFF OF TW SITES.AND HIS FORUMS. SO HIS TW SALES WILL BE HIGH! (he wants that goal of 150 000 to be reached, we will HELP him...) We, as fans, try to help fulfill his wishes! That's our job..cuz he has done so much for us!

AND by making that comments...just says that either fans that lined up and supported Show @ autograph sessions and those who bought albums are either IMAGINARY. GHOST LIKE FIGURES. or BOUGHT by EMI or MARS (agency)...then explain to me those pictures of packed ppl..and over ELEVEN hrs of signing...(dats only ONE ex)

PLUS. each one of us im pretty sure still kept our receipts..so its not troublesome at all to show them proves that the charts are not fixed. AND a lot of us have saved all of our $ for the album release day of the yr. We didn't spent our $ for nothing...

It's kinda painful how Show was promoting Leehom's album...playing his songs over the radio., when he could have spent those time promoting his own album.AND FANS, LIKE US, were DEFENDING Leehom and SONY JUST DOESNT APPRECIATE IT! Leehom's hardworking and talented, I agree..but doesnt mean that you can just accuse someone who's not as talented (but definitely popular in TW) for making their sales # up..FROM THE BEGINNING, Show DEMANDED his company to give him TRUE, EXACT sales #. He takes this REALLY serious and wont even allow it to happen.

I'm pretty sure many Show fans are tired of holding everything in. Everytime Show gets picked on and everything, we just let it go. BUT sometimes, when things like these GO TOO FAR. (it may not seem important to you...it seems important to ME, at least). SUCH SERIOUS MATTER..made by representatives from SUCH A BIG MUSIC COMPANY..really just disappoints me. TRUST ME, if it was LEEHOM that made #1. they wouldnt even have made that comment.

BTW, i kno Show and Leehom has nothing to do with this. I'm just against Sony's actions. I hope Show and Leehom's friendship will still remain, for Show really respects Leehom and has repeatedly mentioned that Leehom, his friend, is talented and hardworking, and that Show fans should grab a copy of Leehom's latest album too to support different variety of music.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:53 AM

i think show is more popular than leehom in taiwan
when i went to the v power concert the whole crowd was screaming their heads off
when it was show's turn to sing, when it was leehom's turn they were quieter
and you have to remember show hosts a tv shows tat airs 6 days a week
so he's got more media exposure

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:54 AM

Hey, Show fans can diss Sony all they want for accusing Show, but some Show fans personally dissed LEEHOM saying HE was the one who accused Show/EMI (whatever) of fixing the charts. That got ME annoyed because Leehom will NEVER do something like that since he's so polite & classy. Not to mention, good friends with Show.

And since when did Show have a radio program to play Leehom's song over? LOL.

As a hardcore Leehom fan, I'm just disappointed about the fact that he's #3 when he's usually #1. Just not used to seeing him so low on charts.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 03:06 AM

Sony shouldn't have commented about this issue because Show's fans might think (if not already) that Lee Hom said all of that. i think this record label only wants to start a verbal fight between the fans and maybe the artists themselves in order to boost their record sales.

but i commend Show by saying that he only competes with himself. at least the 'war' didn't start from him. as for Lee Hom, he did a great job with his new album and i also don't think that he should be bothered with sales because from what i see in him, he only cares about the quality of his music and being able to please his listeners. ^_^

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 03:07 AM

this again...every time when there's 2 popular and talented singers in Asia coming out with the albums at the same time the Asian music market always take it as a competition. its not a competition between 2 singers whose music are totally different. Show and Wang Lee Hom's music are 2 different genres in my opinion. I really hate how the Asian music market always make it over the top...i really think it hurts the Singers'. i mean both worked soooooo hard for their albums and they're respectable singers. I personally am not a fan of Show but he's got talent. I'm more a fan of Wang Lee Hom and i know he talented and innovative. actually i'm surprised that his album is not doing as well as i thought it should be..Show at 32.32% of sales and Lee Hom coming in at only 12.82%...yeah...i kind of understand why Show's album might be doing better, because Lee Hom have been in the industry for so long that when someone fresh and people like the person they will support the new person and the older generation. its just sales records, just numbers...but i guess to the market they're indication of money...but its not an indication of who's more popular or who's more talented...god i really hate how the Asian market is run...

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 03:35 AM

I could really care less about this agency scwabble. More songs for me. And i like them both the same.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 04:10 AM

I can't believe Sony said that...
[b]Lee Hom is INNOCENT!![/b] and they are making him look reallly bad!!!

I believe that Show's company won't do that... seriously, because of show's new found extreme popularity, they will not even dare to do such a thing... So [b]sony just ruined their image[/b]....

I believe that none of them care tha tmuch,but really care that the people who bought their albums truly enjoy it... I have to say, although I am fans of both.. I am more of a show fan, but I totally respect Lee Hom for his music and everything, and he did disappoint me a little this time, but that is ok. It is still his productions and it is so personal so I still respect and like the music.

But this time, I really found Show's labum to be very nice, and i enjoyed more songs in there than Lee Hom, and so if I was to hcoose only one to get, I might go and get Show's album...

But it is unfair to accuse... I hope Show and lee hom as still good buddies!!!!!!!

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 04:17 AM

[quote name='oh`retro' post='5733511' date='Jan 5 2009 7 54 PM']Hey, Show fans can diss Sony all they want for accusing Show, but some Show fans personally dissed LEEHOM saying HE was the one who accused Show/EMI (whatever) of fixing the charts. That got ME annoyed because Leehom will NEVER do something like that since he's so polite & classy. Not to mention, good friends with Show.

And since when did Show have a radio program to play Leehom's song over? LOL.

As a hardcore Leehom fan, I'm just disappointed about the fact that he's #3 when he's usually #1. Just not used to seeing him so low on charts.[/quote]
well, aren't you a mod at the international show forum? And yes, show did have a program. Most people would agree that Show's album is just better. I don't think you are a true Show fan at all. Anywho, Leehom did say something about the sales chart not having a sources or something. So he is blaming someone for something..... I don't have anything against him, its just that what his company said made many ppl relate to it.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 04:31 AM

[b]~Sw33tz~[/b]: thats one of the things i've thought of afterwards...SONY said that cuz they doubt Leehom too o_O

[b]oh`retro[/b]: lol. yes, Show DID have those GUEST DJ programs and was allowed to choose songs he would like to play. Out of those however many songs he played, many of them were his FRIENDS....

Show fans only diss Leehom because of that one line they read that reporters wrote. Whether it is true, we dont kno..but its on paper...thats wat ppl will believe in. JUST LIKE how some would believe it is true that Show fixed charts...WHICH MEANS, WE NEED AN APOLOGY FROM SONY!

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:00 AM

[b]Felicitation[/b] Only because you go on and on about Show 24/7, I'm starting to like him less & less. I'm not even kidding. You're the reason why I'm slowly starting to hate Show.

I personally like Leehom's better. After listening to it the first time, I remembered each song distinctly since they were all so unique & well composed. HOWEVER, after listening to Show's, I couldn't remember anything. Half the songs sounded alike & the other half I already heard from the Hot Shot OST. It was just a jumbled mess.

Umm, not to bring up more controversey, but apprently, when Jolin & Bang Bang Tang topped charts, people were also suspicious of EMI fixing the charts. And I've also read that EMI was rumored to buy their artists' awards. So I'm just putting it out there that EMI might be...shady, LOL.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:35 AM

I like both Show Luo and Wang Lee Hom but I am not a fan,fan {Know what I mean}
Sony issuing this kind of statement somehow put a cloud of doubt on my head too.
I feel sorry for Show,because I know he worked so hard for this album,and to put a taint in what supposed to be his crowning glory....,,
I know Lee Hom will not say anything bad or anything defamatory to anybody.
He is such a class act and he is a musical genius.
There is no doubt about his talent, he is such a classic,
And to say something bad to both Show and Lee Hom will not be fair for both of them.
It is just media making a hype about something.
Maybe Sony did not even say that but just twist their words around...

Edited by angelanne, 06 January 2009 - 05:36 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:38 AM

i like both show and leehom.. show is a good artist.. i bet they don't really care about the numbers.. don't blame the artists, blame the company...

all i got to say is that Lee Hom doesn't care about the numbers at all from previous interview he did. He just happy that the album is out and people may or may not like it.. that's all..

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:54 AM

[quote name='oh`retro' post='5733453' date='Jan 5 2009 5 16 PM']And Leehom ALWAYS does well with his albums, he usually sells about one million in one week.[/quote]

1 Million first week in Taiwan? Seriously? Sounds dubious to me :whistle

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 06:10 AM

I seriously doubt that Show had anything to do with this, but I really suspect EMI. <_< They've been in the news a lot regarding rumours that they buy their own artiste's albums.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 07:45 AM

[quote name='rainysunday' post='5734097' date='Jan 6 2009 6 54 AM']1 Million first week in Taiwan? Seriously? Sounds dubious to me :whistle[/quote]

She's talking about Whole Asia's sales.

It's impossible to sell 1 million in TW nowadays, more than 50 thousands are already very good results for a singer there. Even difficult in Mainlands due to online music stuff and illegal CDs.

I believe Leehom has pretty good sales around Asia, but i doubt that 1 million sales in one week, what a kidding! Even Jay can't do this.(im sorry to bring Jay in as an example, cos he's top bestseller in Asia). Total sales, could be.

Negative news always spread faster, I've commented a lot in other places already. So all what I want to express is: 100% support Show, 100% believe his sales are real! For those who commented badly and unauthentically should go away! SONY, S*CK IT UP!




[quote name='oh`retro' post='5733952' date='Jan 6 2009 6 00 AM'][b]Felicitation[/b] Only because you go on and on about Show 24/7, I'm starting to like him less & less. I'm not even kidding. You're the reason why I'm slowly starting to hate Show.

I personally like Leehom's better. After listening to it the first time, I remembered each song distinctly since they were all so unique & well composed. HOWEVER, after listening to Show's, I couldn't remember anything. Half the songs sounded alike & the other half I already heard from the Hot Shot OST. It was just a jumbled mess.

Umm, not to bring up more controversey, but apprently, when Jolin & Bang Bang Tang topped charts, people were also suspicious of EMI fixing the charts. And I've also read that EMI was rumored to buy their artists' awards. So I'm just putting it out there that EMI might be...shady, LOL.[/quote]

Then what are you doing in his english forum! For criticising or picking his flaws?

Really sick of seeing praising one , dissing another!

Edited by fshirles, 06 January 2009 - 10:04 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:14 AM

helllooo... really this is a battle between the two companies, let's leave it to them. don't get sweat over this issue, not worth it. if you are a fan, just keep supporting your artist. what really matter for them is the process of making the album itself, so appreciate all the efforts they have put into. we all know leehom and show are good buddies and they don't get wrangled, so why should we?... peace!

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 11:51 AM

yeah..yeah..yeah!!!! just support both of them ok? really tiring to complain about it. i am my self, hohoho.. support xiao zhu, so, c'mon xiao zhu, jia you o!!!

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:14 PM

Gold Typhoon Ent have bad reputation in music industry for buying their artist album and we all knew that but SONY comments only make LeeHom bad . Maybe this week SHOW 1st but next week sales record doesnt promise that . SHOW album is more advertise than lee hom album this year just look at the TV, SHOW album advertisement is really fierce compare to LEE HOM . I buy both show and lee hom album and i feel they are really hard to produce this album. Just different person different taste .

Edited by imuya, 06 January 2009 - 12:17 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 02:37 PM

I don't understand why Sony would want to make all those comments. Whether or not it is true, they're bringing Leehom quite some haters because we all know those cut and paste thing paparazzi love to do and how many people (stupidly) will believe. Or perhaps I should say, whether it's true or not, they have to respect Show for his hard work and all. Yeah his company may be involved in more than one of this kind of cases but still it doesn't mean that they do that to each and every of their artiste. Moreover, Show is getting more and more popular at Taiwan. It didn't happen so suddenly that he has to be doubted <_<

And I wish people would just stop dragging both the artistes into this. More like, it's the companies having a conflict rather than the singers.

Edited by Gibberish., 06 January 2009 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2009 - 02:38 PM

i dont care who fixed the charts, anyone now adays everyone fixes the charts, so charts are never true.

i would buy leehom's album over show anyday.

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 04:49 PM

haha... when i posted the gmusic charts last weekend..i think some of us thought at the back of our minds that chart is screwed... of course the losing company will talk.. hmmm... but the comments then were right.. that chart is just for taiwan.. outside of taiwan, leehom's album is outselling show's.. so it's sad sony had to trash talk at all..

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 05:19 PM

this 'sales fixing' issues been up for a long time already after Double J 's incident...but all i can say is definitely there is something wrong behind this issue but im sure lee hom and Show have nothing to do with it...as a middle man,i can say that lee hom is a music genius like Jay Chou and Show is a dancing master (i still dont find anything really special in his songs,sorry to show's fans..im just hearing it from a neutral position)just like Jolin...it doesnt really matters whoever win as long as they knows they have already put in 100% effort and that is enough

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 06:14 PM

i totally agree with [b]tammiest[/b], some people are making it out as though it's solely leehom's fault, when i'm pretty sure he had no involvement in this. it was just sony's doing. one possible reason could be that because leehom's experimented with a new style, it hasn't been accepted too well by people in taiwan, but like [b]francesca[/b] said, leehom's popularity is higher outside of taiwan. sure, it wasn't too great that sony said that, but i really don't think that people should hold anything against the 2 artists since they didn't say any of these things. and tbh xiao zhu and leehom themselves probably don't see this as a 'battle' anyway -.- they're two very different artists and i think people should just respect them rather than start bashing one or the other -.-

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 07:27 PM

i think its wrong of how the companies are creating such negative news about each other. its unfair to leehom n show luo since they r both friends, it could create a uncomfortable situation between them two. either way i like them both and they shouldnt be compared to each other because both their singing styles are different

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 08:20 PM

[quote name='rainysunday' post='5734097' date='Jan 5 2009 11 54 PM']1 Million first week in Taiwan? Seriously? Sounds dubious to me :whistle[/quote]
No, in Asia in general or whatever countries they count. Not just Taiwan.

[quote name='fshirles' post='5734308' date='Jan 6 2009 1 45 AM']She's talking about Whole Asia's sales.

It's impossible to sell 1 million in TW nowadays, more than 50 thousands are already very good results for a singer there. Even difficult in Mainlands due to online music stuff and illegal CDs.

I believe Leehom has pretty good sales around Asia, but i doubt that 1 million sales in one week, what a kidding! Even Jay can't do this.(im sorry to bring Jay in as an example, cos he's top bestseller in Asia). Total sales, could be.

Then what are you doing in his english forum! For criticising or picking his flaws?

Really sick of seeing praising one , dissing another![/quote]
Actually, it is do-able. Jay & Leehom have all sold one million within the first week before. JJ Lin's Cao Cao album sold two million within two weeks. Leehom's Heroes of the Earth sold one million within 10 days.

Okay, I'm not DISSING him, I'm just...constructively criticizing him. I'm not saying he sucks so bad, blah blah blah. I was just saying his voice isn't as great & his songs weren't as good. I actually have reasons to back me up. I like Show, mind you.

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:06 AM

A little disappointed that Sony would issue a statement like that but please be reminded that it was SONY BMG and not Leehom who said those things. I think the only reason SONY said anything like that (though this doesn't mean they were justified in doing so) is because EMI has been accused of doing the same thing before. In any case, I think fans of both parties should just back off and enjoy their idol's albums. Show and Leehom are close friends and I'm sure Show wouldn't want his fans attacking Leehom or vice versa. Regardless of whether the charts are real or not, congratulations to Show because I know he put a lot of hard work into his newest album.

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:35 AM

I like both artists a lot but seeing leehom lose by THAT much is kinda ridiculous. I trust in Show but I don't trust in EMI for some reason. I understand that Show is really really popular in TW now but Leehom only selling half as much as Show is what I cant understand....Also, I disagree with people who say Leehom's new album is not good either. I actually bought Leehom's album instead of Show's after listening to all the previews of both of their albums. I really really like Show but I thought his last album was better.

I agree with some people that Leehom is more popular outside of Taiwan because all of my asian friends at school has heard of Leehom but no offense to Show, none of my friends know who he is. Also, if you look on yesasia.com(where a lot of people living outside of Taiwan or Asia buy albums) bestsellers list, Leehom's album captured five out of the top ten spots while Show was in 11th place. So I guess Leehom is more popular outside of Taiwan and Show is more popular in Taiwan.

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 01:34 AM

i like both artists they both have a good voice and good songs ..

i think this is just some news to fire up the media....

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 04:47 AM

CLARIFICATION.
whoever dissed Leehom can stop, or was disappointed in his words..dont have to be.
According to a reporter who blogged..
SONY called him/her up and asked her/him to write the article to accuse the other company (gold label) of fixing charts.
BUT..the reporter refused to..SO, Sony sent notice/letters to all the other press groups so they would report it instead.

I just have to say...Sony....needs to have demeanor...-_-"

He/she also mentioned that its ironic that Sony sed billboards are not trustworthy, when Leehom used them a couple of yrs ago and celebrated his sales....

Reporter mentioned that cuz EMI was ACCUSED of this before, even if it is true now..nobody will believe it....

but I still think they didnt fix charts this time. cuz its super hard to fix all 11 of them...really..iono how they can or have the $ to.

BUT, this proves ONE thing....SONY made Leehom looked bad..for doubting him..
and EMI needs to clean their bg and the way they do things..so ppl can BELIEVE them.

heres the blog link:
[url="http://nicwu73.pixnet.net/blog/post/25025753"]http://nicwu73.pixnet.net/blog/post/25025753[/url]

im not making any of this up to diss Sony....not at all.

[b]MeJustYou[/b]: they for sure didnt see it as a competition. lol. cuz Leehom only care about music..and Show only wants to surpass himself. but Sony, iono whether on purpose on not, HAD to delay Leehom's album.....

Edited by vickieee, 07 January 2009 - 04:50 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2009 - 05:13 AM

first of all, i think the media just enjoys getting two factions at each other. it's probably true that some reporter just made all this stuff up so there can be some news on everyone's mouths. second, i'd like to say that show dominated practically every chart in taiwan. there is NO way gold typhoon could have bought off every chart in the market. it is quite obvious how popular xiao zhu is in taiwan. no one can doubt that. third, it's not important whether or not the charts have been fixed, because both artists are hard-working and deserve the success they have, and we all support leehom and show for their music, not some numbers. however, sony releasing a statement like that just because their artist is behind in the charts, that is a shame. i am sick and tired of the media always picking on show as if he has to take an extra step to prove to everyone his success, or his talent, just because he had a slump in his career a few years back. i dont think this is fair of sony to criticize. and for people who keep saying gold typhoon is shady, sony bmg was accused of fixing the charts during the whole double j thing too. they are respectable record companies and there is no way for them to get so much money to fix the charts.
i personally respect leehom despite being an avid show fan, so i am not bashing any artist. im just giving my own two cents.
basically, no one should argue and get offended. we should be clearheaded, respectful fans and not bash each other.





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