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#1 llwy12

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Posted 22 May 2010 - 07:59 AM

Perhaps TVB needs some competition in order to improve (Part 2 in a series)
By Guo Qian Cheng

Saturday, May 22, 2010 Hong Kong

Source: Ming Pao
http://www.mingpaowe...100522/mef1.htm

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Out of those who hope for TVB to improve, roughly half feel that in these past few years, TVB’s priorities have been misplaced – without much competition to fire it up, the station’s focus has been on reducing production costs and so recently have not developed any ‘creative’ new shows.

For those shows that are supposedly based on ‘new ideas’ – many times, we can find the ‘original form’ of the show when we look to the TV stations in other Asian regions, so in actuality, the shows cannot be attributed entirely to the ‘creativity’ of the locals (Hong Kong). In fact, even in the area of ‘basing on original’, Hong Kong often lags behind – just looking at the concept of ‘similar shows’: China, Taiwan, and other neighboring regions often come out with shows that are based on similar ideas faster than TVB does.

In the past, TVB rarely bought broadcasting rights for series and other programs produced overseas, however in the past few years, this has happened more often – unfortunately, the reason is primarily due to the lack of emphasis placed on its own creativity (hence the shrinking of production costs and resources).

Back when the Hong Kong television industry was at its peak (80s and early 90s), even though TVB was still ‘the one biggest station,’ it was very obvious that its creative talent was the driving force moving the industry forward. The talent and creativity that emerged at that time was strong enough to drive the expansion of the entire market -- not only servicing Hong Kong audiences, but also expanding to include all Chinese-speaking audiences residing in all corners of the world.

Nowadays, with the emergence of strong TV programs in China and Taiwan, the Chinese-speaking ‘market’ has been divided up and is no longer ‘enjoyed’ by Hong Kong exclusively. Add to that the emergence of satellite TV and the easy accessibility of TV shows on-line – both of which are huge threats to TVB’s once lucrative business of selling their programs to the overseas market.

In recent years, TVB’s focus has been primarily on servicing the local Hong Kong audience pool; however as members of this audience get older, they have less desire for innovation and creativity in programming, opting instead to stick with the ‘tried and true’ – which explains why TVB’s ratings continue to remain relatively steady and why middle-aged artists carry many of the leading roles in series.

Before, TVB only had 2 location channels – the Chinese-language ‘Jade’ channel and the English-language ‘Pearl’ channel – with the main focus resting of course on the Jade Channel. In efforts to cater to the majority of the audience pool at that time – the middle-aged, elderly, and ‘housewife’ crowds – the station decided to broadcast mostly TV series. The goal at that time was not really to provide excellent service, but rather to draw as little negative attention as possible (partly by not making major mistakes). However with the dawn of high definition – and the subsequent addition of more channels as a result – it is logical to think that there should be more room now to focus on the ‘service’ aspect. Unfortunately, up until this point, TVB still does not have any long-term plans for creating innovative or creative programming.

With the fierce competition in the mainland China television market, the industry has seen quick and significant progress in that region. Even with the many restrictions imposed by the government, the market continues to grow rapidly in China – the TV stations there are constantly producing shows that the audience has never seen before or new genres of shows that are often talked about in entertainment circles.

In terms of variety and diversity, TVB right now is truly lagging behind – perhaps it needs some ‘new’ competition in the future in order for it to progress.

Edited by llwy12, 22 May 2010 - 08:00 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2010 - 07:30 PM

TVB needs to take a good look at their production dept - i have just about stop watching their productions cos it's too predictable and too boring. I have nothing against the oldies coming back, in fact i welcome them cos they can at least act, but please give them some decent scripts to show off their skills! Such a waste of their talent pool with poor scripts!

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 10:31 AM

View Postllwy12, on 22 May 2010 - 07:59 AM, said:

With the fierce competition in the mainland China television market, the industry has seen quick and significant progress in that region. Even with the many restrictions imposed by the government, the market continues to grow rapidly in China – the TV stations there are constantly producing shows that the audience has never seen before or new genres of shows that are often talked about in entertainment circles.
What kind of new genre shows and show that audience has never seen before that China has produced? Sorry, agree with a lot of what the article said. But, this I disagree. Even if the writer want to criticise TVB, he/she didn't need to make its competitor out to be flawless.
China series consist of
1. Wuxia adaptations
2. Classic novels adaptations
3. Court drama
4. Modern day drama
Those are new genre?
Ok, thought of one that can be considered new compares to TVB i.e. adapting rpg games.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 05:52 PM

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In recent years, TVB’s focus has been primarily on servicing the local Hong Kong audience pool; however as members of this audience get older, they have less desire for innovation and creativity in programming, opting instead to stick with the ‘tried and true’ – which explains why TVB’s ratings continue to remain relatively steady and why middle-aged artists carry many of the leading roles in series.



This part is true. I've nothing against 'middle-aged' artists carry leading roles and even welcome them as they're usually better actors than the young-uns but the plotlines are quite predictable. And 'they' in the first sentence should refer to TVB right? Because I don't think audiences have less desire for different stuff as a series which surprises can't be a bad thing. I don't think audiences would want to watch recycled plotlines over and over and over again. Perhaps they're watching and waiting for some difference in plot and just taking what they can get at the moment.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 07:57 PM

View PostCaramelapples, on 23 May 2010 - 05:52 PM, said:




This part is true. I've nothing against 'middle-aged' artists carry leading roles and even welcome them as they're usually better actors than the young-uns but the plotlines are quite predictable. And 'they' in the first sentence should refer to TVB right? Because I don't think audiences have less desire for different stuff as a series which surprises can't be a bad thing. I don't think audiences would want to watch recycled plotlines over and over and over again. Perhaps they're watching and waiting for some difference in plot and just taking what they can get at the moment.

Actually, the "they" is not referring to TVB -- it is referring to the "older, elderly, and housewife" age group that TVB started off catering to and for the most part continue to cater to. What the article says makes sense because if we think about it, the main audience pool that are being catered to (older people and housewives) probably don't really care much about how good or bad a series is -- they may not be as into technology and all the other modern advances in society.....also, the main goal of this audience is not to sit there and analyze the plot in a series, but rather to take care of their families -- watching TV is a stress reliever for them and allows them to step away from the stresses of life for a brief moment....so I could see why the article would say that they have less desire for innovative plots, since this particular audience pool is probably not thinking about that kind of stuff....

View Postreiyi, on 23 May 2010 - 10:31 AM, said:

What kind of new genre shows and show that audience has never seen before that China has produced? Sorry, agree with a lot of what the article said. But, this I disagree. Even if the writer want to criticise TVB, he/she didn't need to make its competitor out to be flawless.
China series consist of
1. Wuxia adaptations
2. Classic novels adaptations
3. Court drama
4. Modern day drama
Those are new genre?
Ok, thought of one that can be considered new compares to TVB i.e. adapting rpg games.

I don't follow China entertainment much, so can't really comment on this part of the article. But I think that the author was just trying to point out that at least China TV stations -- despite the restrictive government -- are at least making a strong effort to be innovative and creative, whereas TVB is not putting alot of effort into this area because of the lack of competition.

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:11 AM

View Postllwy12, on 23 May 2010 - 07:57 PM, said:

Actually, the "they" is not referring to TVB -- it is referring to the "older, elderly, and housewife" age group that TVB started off catering to and for the most part continue to cater to. What the article says makes sense because if we think about it, the main audience pool that are being catered to (older people and housewives) probably don't really care much about how good or bad a series is -- they may not be as into technology and all the other modern advances in society.....also, the main goal of this audience is not to sit there and analyze the plot in a series, but rather to take care of their families -- watching TV is a stress reliever for them and allows them to step away from the stresses of life for a brief moment....so I could see why the article would say that they have less desire for innovative plots, since this particular audience pool is probably not thinking about that kind of stuff....

You make a valid point but on the other hand, having older audiences and housewives as target audiences doesn't mean that they don't think about innovative plots etc. Whether they are analysing the plot or not, I think the older people being audiences of TVB for a longer period than the younger people would already make it more obvious that TVB is recycling a lot of plots and it doesn't mean that they "they have less desire for innovation and creativity in programming, opting instead to stick with the ‘tried and true’". They probably do, but we don't hear it all that much because a lot of them aren't on the internet and participating in forums like these. I know my mother (not housewife, but one of the older people) who's been watching TVB for years made the hop to Korean dramas some time back due to the lack of creativity in the plotlines of TVB dramas.


My point is that they're not "opting to stick with the 'tried and true' formula; instead, they're just taking what they can get and what has been churned out which corresponds to the point you made about most of them using TV as a stress reliever. Therefore, if TVB would produce stuff with more innovative or interesting plots, they'll gladly watch that and won't be against it at all and would not be likely to choose to watch something with recycled or done-before plots. :)

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Posted 24 May 2010 - 05:20 AM

View PostCaramelapples, on 24 May 2010 - 05:11 AM, said:

You make a valid point but on the other hand, having older audiences and housewives as target audiences doesn't mean that they don't think about innovative plots etc. Whether they are analysing the plot or not, I think the older people being audiences of TVB for a longer period than the younger people would already make it more obvious that TVB is recycling a lot of plots and it doesn't mean that they "they have less desire for innovation and creativity in programming, opting instead to stick with the ‘tried and true’". They probably do, but we don't hear it all that much because a lot of them aren't on the internet and participating in forums like these. I know my mother (not housewife, but one of the older people) who's been watching TVB for years made the hop to Korean dramas some time back due to the lack of creativity in the plotlines of TVB dramas.


My point is that they're not "opting to stick with the 'tried and true' formula; instead, they're just taking what they can get and what has been churned out which corresponds to the point you made about most of them using TV as a stress reliever. Therefore, if TVB would produce stuff with more innovative or interesting plots, they'll gladly watch that and won't be against it at all and would not be likely to choose to watch something with recycled or done-before plots. :)

Good points -- especially the part about the older audiences and housewives probably feeling the same way as the middle / younger generation do, but because they aren't "technology-oriented" and expressing their opinions on the internet like later generations, the assumption is made that they don't desire innovation. You definitely put it into words better than I did. Thanks for clarifying.





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