[BillyCY]

I want an extra harddrive for my cpu then i got a tot al of 2 harddrives one 200 GB and the new one 250 GB, only they will be put next to each other with a little space between of 1 cm or so, is this ok? i mean for heat and stuff.

cause my computer is on for about 3 days now i opend the shelf an feel the harddisk but it's quiet cool, not burnin my fingers do on it? so is it ok? or what

please advise..

PS. There is a special bracket in it for two and their waaaayyyy in front of my case, and they will be standing vertically,

and how about power consumption of this harddrive

new: SATA 200 rpm 250 GB western digital.

Specs: intel Pentium 4 3,4 Ghz
1024 GB DDR RAM
DVD ROM
DVD/RW DOUBLE LAYER 8x
200 GB SATA
Ati X300 SE > Will be replaced for Ati X800 XL

PS. I HAVE SATA

This post has been edited by BillyCY: 14 January 2005 - 03:04 PM

[sloozer]

shouldn't be a problem sitting each one next to each other.

to setup both HD, set one Master and one Slave.

Edit: for sata you just plug and play no need to set jumper

This post has been edited by cyberice: 14 January 2005 - 02:05 PM

[BillyCY]

so both jumper can be the same on both sata drives? PS i have sata

[aznkidlee]

You need to set one to master and the other one to slave. I would set the one w/ the OS to master.

[BillyCY]

aznkidlee, on Jan 14 2005 3 02 PM, said:

You need to set one to master and the other one to slave.  I would set the one w/ the OS to master.

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so what is master what is slave how do i know, and what configuration is master and slave, do you have these too? if you have sata?

This post has been edited by BillyCY: 14 January 2005 - 03:11 PM

[BillyCY]

mct138, on Jan 14 2005 4 02 PM, said:

If you have a SATA type of hard drive, you do not need to specify master or slave, that's the beauty of the new technology. It will automatically do it for you. On the other hand, putting both hard drives next to each other would not be advised. The hotter your hD wil lbecome, the less performant it will be. I suggest you to buy a HD cooler bracket that you would mount on the bottom of each Hd to cool them down. Especially when you plan to leave your computer open for more than a day. If possible, leave a HD space between both Hd's so it will not amplify the heat.

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but my case has a specialbrackt in front the harddrive that's was standard i it is in the bracket and leaves one more place for an extra harddrive and their is a open space of 1/2 cm between the harddrives i leave my computer for several days on now, and i ust been puttin my hand on the harddrive and it is quiet cool, it's not hot or near that so will you still advise for buying an extra cooler for my HD?

[Jon Lai]

Yea, there should be no problem putting hard drives together. Just make sure they're set up properly as Master and Slave.

You don't need a cooler, my hard drive (I only have one on my current computer), I've once been interested when I installed my DVD burner to touch the hard drive which it was running and IT WAS HOT! It practically felt like it burnt my fingers but it didn't really, so I suggest nobody touch their hard drive while its running.

[Jon Lai]

Oh really? But are you referring to the metal part of the hard drive or the chips part of the drive? My comment that it was hot was touching the bottom, computer chips part of the hard drive. At the time I was transferring large amounts of files from one drive to another, when my filesystem corrupted and was forced to back up all my files through Knoppix. The top metal part of the hard drive was not hot, it was just warm.

[BillyCY]

yeah well the only side i can reach is the black side it's kinda plastic side of the harddrive it wasn't hot at all, not really even warm a little, as i tried to reach the other site i didn't feel any heat anywhere so i think if i buy my next one which has the same temperature it isn't a problem?

well thank you guys again for your good help,

don't know how to say in english but partionate is it? can i do that in windows? so i can make thee extra drives of the new 250 GB like

drive 1: 100 gb :drive 2: 100 gb : drive 3 : 50 gb?

and if i have this setup is their a way to bring it back to one drive 250 gb?

is it possible that the harddrive i own now has acooling system in its drive already?

This post has been edited by BillyCY: 14 January 2005 - 10:47 PM

[milamber]

If you use XP you can right klick on my computer, select manage.
Select diskmanagment . Select the new drive.
Here you can partition the drive the way you like.

Throw away the created partitions if you want to have 1 partition of 250 Gb back, but you will lose the data on the partitions.

[pHiLLyJaY]

if u worried bout heat, u can always buy an extra case fan, to keep it cooler

[Crayon Shin-chan]

For most cases, heat won't be a big problem if you have a fan blowing on it. So it is worth buying one or two fans for cooling the HDs. I have 4 fans on my casing directed solely on my HDs, so they always stay cool.

When you do lots of reading and writing to your HD, it is normal it gets pretty warm. Besides that, it should not be warm if your HD is idling.

Partitioning is very easy nowadays... follow what "milamber" said and it should be straightforward. Alternatively you can use software like Partition Magic to help you do it. You can also partition your HDs(if they are empty and you want to install WindowsXP on it) by using WinXP's installation disk. The Fdisk disk manager there will guide you through the process.

Of course, you can always post your questions here when you are in doubt.

[Jon Lai]

there is a thread talking about how hot can your computer be, well, how hot can your hard drive solely be? it seems quite high if yeauch you have to use 4 fans on your hard drives. how many hard drives is that?

~~ y0z, you suggested that there may be something wrong with my hard drive if it feels hot to the hand, but is that stating the top of the disk or the bottom, where the chips are? it feels hot to the hand when i feel the bottom, the chips, and not the top, the metal covering the hard drive.

i downloaded a random program online that said it could check hard drive temperature and life span, etc., and it stated my hard drive ran at 36 degrees celcius, and life span was "cannot predict becuase it hasn't monitored it enough yet. blah, i was expecting that, but is that normal/okay?

This post has been edited by Jon Lai: 15 January 2005 - 03:28 AM

[st0rm]

hey jon can u tell me the program name ur using to monitor ur hd, i wanna try it out.

[Jon Lai]

its called SIGuardian, 30 day trial tho, but I'm sure there's a crack or serial somewhere but I haven't looked yet.

[BillyCY]

so how hot can a harddrive be? what is the max for a harddrive when it is fully in work? but if i get this right i can have two arddisk next to each other? with a small space between of 1/2 cm. without extra fans on it? cause where i live their kinda expensive do.

please advise me, do other people have two big harddisk next to each other without extra fans? how is yours?

and is downloading and having the computer on also called idle? or not? cause it writes data on the disk. if you download.

This post has been edited by BillyCY: 15 January 2005 - 08:18 AM

[Crayon Shin-chan]

HDs can get quite hot on full load all the time. A good thing is to invest on a fan or two to your casing to cool it down. 1-2cm is fine with a fan cooling it, if you do lots of writing and raeding. If the HDs stays idle most of the time, I don't think a fan is necessary (ie your HD acting as backup or storage disks or somewhere to put all your mp3s etc...). I think it is fine if you are only using it for downloading too... there is not much load in it.

I have 3 HDs placed equally apart on my HD bay with 4 fans

[BillyCY]

yeauch!, on Jan 15 2005 10 38 AM, said:

HDs can get quite hot on full load all the time.  A good thing is to invest on a fan or two to your casing to cool it down.  1-2cm is fine with a fan cooling it, if you do lots of writing and raeding.  If the HDs stays idle most of the time, I don't think a fan is necessary (ie your HD acting as backup or storage disks or somewhere to put all your mp3s etc...).  I think it is fine if you are only using it for downloading too... there is not much load in it. 

I have 3 HDs placed equally apart on my HD bay with 4 fans  

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So when is it fully activated working then the HD? except scandisk and defraging your harddisk?

play games? cause i cannot think of anything?

play games photoediting?

or videoediting? and stuff?

but is this theory correct below:

that the harddisks from now, are not that hot anymore so if you got two harddrives next to each other that it isn't manipulating each other like if the one is 40 degreees, that the other is idle normal 20 degrees, that it automatically goes to 35 degrees for example cause the other harddrive produces more heat cause it is working and that the idle one is grabbing/catching all the warm heat? i know before with harddisk that were just a chip that it was hot but harddrives now that are just boxlike that they DoN'T pRoduce that much heat SO you can saFELY TOUCH IT?

IS THIS CORRECT? CAUSE THEN I DON'THINK YOU NEED COOLING MECHANISM ON THE HARDDRIVES SELF...

This post has been edited by BillyCY: 15 January 2005 - 07:08 PM

[Jon Lai]

how hot are hard drives usually? Last post I said 36 degrees celcius, and that was when my computer was downloading BT with both Azureus and Bitcomet on (i usually have to do that as azureus have problems with some files).

today i turned on my computer and right away i checked, it was standing at 17 degrees celcius.

considering that my room temperature is around 19-22 celcius, is that normal?

[Jon Lai]

BillyCY, on Jan 15 2005 11 47 PM, said:

you got extra cooler on it?

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nope, its just got the power supply fan and processor fan.